My Bike is Cheap (and how you can have one too)

[@alextroche9453]

i was hoping to find an mtb equivalent of trace velo- please keep the content coming!

[@thewreckingball1150]

Thank you! I want to do more builds like this but I am financially limited. So we are going to do as many as we can but there will be other content as well that is cheaper for me to produce

[@alextroche9453]

follow up videos with more detail on specific components/ more riding footage would be sweet (and cheap)

[@thewreckingball1150]

@@alextroche9453 I have one coming out tomorrow about the rear derailleur!

[@Speedy.V]

@@thewreckingball1150 those rear derailers are awful. I've built a full sus Chinese frame a while back and put a decent deore XT drivetrain. Still rolling to this day.

[@thewreckingball1150]

@@Speedy.V they are indeed awful. So much so I made a whole video about it

[@markgolding8946]

I also have a Chinese carbon MTB , Great value and still going strong after two years of hard riding

[@dianamunozdezapata795]

Thanks for your honesty , you are one of the few I seen here that has the skills to ride a bike and not blame his failures as a rider on the fact that the bike isn't $3000 and up. I just came from a channel that had some dude blame his falls on a rock shock 35 silver , claiming those forks aren't for jumping ... he went on and got a fox and same results ... like those guys that show up to the basketball courts wearing Jordan's and can't even do a lay-up 😢 . Currently ridding my siskiu D6 SE upgraded with Chinese components and I be flying past dudes with specialized, Cannondale Cannon , Scott , Santa Cruz ect . Skills will always beat name brands 🎉

[@alf3071]

people should do this more because the bike industry is out of their mind with the prices

[@thewreckingball1150]

That’s the plan. Do a lot more of this.

[@marklouieadame]

Doing the same thing the branded ones are stupidly expensive

[@marklouieadame]

Hopefully they can make suspension fork cheaper nd performs the same

[@easpoorts]

The prices are so high because the bike companies aren't making profit. The bike industry is struggleing right now. If everyone bought chinese frames, the bike industry would collapse, with most bike brands going bankrupt. In that case, the only remaining option would be chinese factories with dodgy materials and craftmanship, not to mention that the evolution of mountain bikes would stop, because the chinese manufacturers were almost always copying other bike brands.

[@thewreckingball1150]

@@easpoorts the prices always rice because of central bankers printing more money. As an engineer my career as always been focused on improving efficiency of business profits. Bike manufacturers like Specialized outsourced their manufacturing to china and were able to increase their margin. So now that we circumnavigate them we are bad? I recommend you study bitcoin.

[@pqev]

I was surprised by the quality of the video because of the channel size. This video is very high quality👍

[@thewreckingball1150]

Thanks man I’m working hard to have my most recent video be my best.

[@tuswm1]

I have also been shopping on AliExpress for things like brake pads. What I wanted to tell you is that when I found your video on my work account I cannot find it on my personal account even when typing the title of your video in absolutely perfectly. I find that very interesting

[@thewreckingball1150]

I’m new at this so I think I am just not very good at search engine optimization. Stoked you found me though. I am dropping a new video tonight let me know what you think.

[@GDub83]

Certainly would appreciate a comprehensive review down the line, say 3 to 6 months or even a full season. I tend to be cautious about carbon frames, given that I've seen many instances of cracks emerging after about a year of intense use.

[@thewreckingball1150]

Absolutely will do.

[@namor216]

Good stuff, just subbed. I think I was lucky number 1000! lol Cheers, man!

[@GokkunGuru]

Great build and review. We need more low key bike frames. Not all have to be branded.

[@thewreckingball1150]

Thank you!

[@eddiegarza4908]

I agree bro it’s cool to see

[@greghavener9373]

This is your first video I found, I subscribed. I built a very similar kind of bike last year and am enjoying it too. You are doing well and will do bigger, better with more experience. You should have a better backdrop. Keep up the great work!

[@Speedy.V]

Can you elaborate on the rear shock issue? Would buying the correct bushing sizes fix this issue. Another thing: what do you mean that the bike has a harsh ride ? What type of compression tube? Like does it have the harshness at the end of the stroke or does it not do well with small bump compliance? Does it feel like it has high anti squat?

[@TheRickysee]

Man. You are a good rider. That’s how I picture myself riding. In my dreams.

[@thewreckingball1150]

Lots of practice but I’m not special anyone can ride like me with enough practice.

[@przemyslawgawel8501]

Get a FCFB flatbar and a uno ultralight stem from Ali it will fit your build very well and is super light and strong.

[@thewreckingball1150]

I’ll give that a look but I usually don’t like flat bars.

[@davidgarza2267]

I've done a chinese road bike and gravel bike builds. Haven't worked up the courage to do a chinese mtb yet. Maybe I'll start with a chill hardtail for my local xc trails. Great video.

[@bmxryan]

Holy cow, I didn’t know they made epics like that.

[@DionEconomopoulos-tb1vn]

I was just thinking about this exact topic amd boom a video.spontaneouisly appeared. Thankyou my AI.friends

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Rad video!

[@thewreckingball1150]

Thank you so much! Still a lot to improve but we are getting there.

[@joelibrary7359]

Chinese carbon bike build next maybe?

[@blurglide]

Microshift is an EXCELLENT cheap drivetrain. wide range 10 speed and uses standerd HG hubs

[@TRG36]

I just bought a 2020 Norco Optic c3. Guy only rode it around his house. $1400. Good used buys if you look a little

[@thewreckingball1150]

Definitely, and I think that’s going to be story for a while. I plan on doing a used build as well.

[@YongPark-g3h]

I'm thinking of doing similar build but with VPP style frame. I would like to watch more videos like this. Good luck!

[@thewreckingball1150]

Thank you!

[@erikroest]

Wonderful bike: could you please link the saddle?

[@Rawkus919]

Cool build. Almost did similar. I live in Australia,and found specialized spring specials, Epic evo base model. $3300aud. Sold the recon forks, swapped on Sid ultimate, ryet carbon wheels and carbon renthal bars. 12kg. For total out of pocket of $4000aud.

[@thewreckingball1150]

That’s a solid way to go

[@hode126]

I’m very familiar with all the parts you’ve mentioned😂. Luckily the “roval” handlebars worked out for me (does feel a bit stiff though). I’ve ridden the ryet wheel set for a couple of years for xc racing and have not had to do any tuning on those. Very impressed given the price. What group set did you end up with? Also, specialized have been running a ton of deals lately. Snagged a evo epic expert with axs for 4200. Not as cheap as your build but content with it.

[@jeanboston310]

Dude ,I think you made your rig a sexy stance and performance . I’m going to try and do something similar. Thanks buddy stay true. Jean and Ross England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿👌👌🤘🤘

[@thewreckingball1150]

Glad you liked it!

[@fiszu4075]

I'm not sure what the prices were when this video came out, but I'm preatty sure you can now buy a good bike at this price point without the alifuckery. at least in europe. and with warranty

[@thewreckingball1150]

A year ago that definitely was not the case, I agree definitely worth going with a reputable company now because prices have dropped significantly

[@dianamunozdezapata795]

Just subscribed and showing everyone that rides how good this content is 🎉

[@SaludfitnessPUNTOcom]

Hey brother i just bought this frame, do you care to mention how you made the shock bushing to work

[@thewreckingball1150]

Ya I bought one of these part numbers then ground down the bushing. 11.4118.091.807 or google SHOCK HDW 3Pc 1/2” 8X 21.8

[@SyLens1]

Hi, for anyone looking to build an aliexpress bike. The ryets look nice but i have to warn you. They do have quite a lot of defect or bad manufacturing and not the best customer support (im talking about wheelsets not other parts like saddles) . Hence why i suggest elite wheels for your aliexpress wheelsets. They are superb quality with really good customer support for a bit more money but i do think the extra 100-200€ is worth it for the quality being as good as most western brands or inhouse bike brands

[@BrandinBowler]

This video was fantastic keep them coming!

[@thewreckingball1150]

Thank you! Will do!

[@CuBeKiDxD]

As someone who raced NICA and now wants to race more XC, absolutely do not have the budget to maintain my high end BMC (a cassette is $500????) and also recently lost my bike shop job and will be moving so have absolutely no reliable money or shop discounts- this could be absolutely genius Edit: i do think there's some used deals that could almost match this, but i think getting lucky with discounts and used suspension could make it unbeatable, especially when it comes time for repairs. Im really curious how it'll last you in the long run

[@thewreckingball1150]

I’ll make sure to keep you updated. I agree deals are definitely going to be had.

[@J-MTB-ue2ou]

impressive it didnt fall apart. for that price id get real stuff tho. id pay $1000 tops for that

[@edwardstimecapsule9837]

The DJ bar and stem looks super rad and balances the bike out, the platform is truly an aggressive “down country” Furshurr 🤘🏽

[@thewreckingball1150]

It’s a lot of fun to jump too.

[@Dellvmnyam]

2500 doesn't sound like a cheap bike ^_^

[@thewreckingball1150]

Compared to what this would cost from the manufacturer it is quite a bit cheaper. But a lot of people have said the same thing so I am working on a budget bike now.

[@jleau89]

try finding an equivalent 25 pound FS MTB at that price...

[@KingofStreet3]

And yet here I am looking at videos to build the ultimate (to me) cheap bike.

[@thewreckingball1150]

I definitely didn’t build the cheapest bike I could

[@TildenKaizen]

Cheap price-wise maybe, but the value really is in the building, if you include your time by the hour, how 'cheap' is your bike? Sure, the leaders in this and other markets bleed from clones or knock-off's, but specific to bicycles, how many people build their own bikes? Very few. We're not hurting market share by any means.

[@tmmcmill]

I like your videos. Keeps them coming!

[@thewreckingball1150]

You got it!

[@collera05]

Any updates? Is it still riding good?

[@alexanderclifton3385]

I run a short stem and 25 mm rise bar on my xc bike specialized epic ht and it is awsome i hate long stems 0 rise narrow bars

[@thewreckingball1150]

I agree I think they are completely useless

[@TheOneTrueD]

The sheer scale of R&D, QA/QC, pro rider experience/input, and design expertise that reputable manufacturers put into their bikes should not be underestimated. The fact that you not only seem to think that comparable quality is achievable with this mass-produced Chinese assembly line crap, but also appear stoic enough to make a video to convince others that that is the case, is incredibly alarming to any seasoned MTB rider.

[@thewreckingball1150]

Im glad you think I’m stoic.

[@ericlopez5050]

Funny thing is, the actual specialized frames was possibly made in the same factory, or the factory got ahold of a frame/similar mold and the factory was just selling its surplus/rebrand in order to get around patent laws, either way both frames were made the same way, maybe with different ingredients or less safety testing, but same process, same factory worker, 10 frames made in the hour, same conveyer belt. It doesn't cost the company thousands of dollars a frame, so it shouldn't cost us thousands as well

[@TildenKaizen]

During Covid I assembled a "Chinese assembly line crap' gravel bike. A number of the gravel events I have done since with this bike have included climbing mtb trails of ski hills then descending boulder laden trails; not for the faint of heart on any bike let alone ones without suspension. My frame and components continue to respond perfectly 3 yrs in. You sir, have been wholly hoodwinked into believing the marketing hype. 'Buyer beware' is an apt expression for all, regardless of source.

[@TheOneTrueD]

@@TildenKaizen Sure you have, buddy.

[@TheOneTrueD]

@@thewreckingball1150 I think you're stoically delusional, lol

[@johndef5075]

I just got a brand new 2017 SWorks Epic frame with shock for $970 with tax. It is authentic from a Specialized dealer. Gathering build parts now.

[@thewreckingball1150]

Nice good luck!

[@dermax_hd]

the reason brand bikes are expensive is because they're doing all the developement, engineering and innovation. If everyone was just copying other peoples homeworks we'd still be riding those 90s road bikes with thicker tires and calling them Mountainbikes. That being said the big brands somewhat do overprice their stuff I feel like. There are genuinely good companies out there making innovative products for fair prices. Support your brands guys or we'll never get better.

[@thewreckingball1150]

I am conflicted with this as well but here is my take: 1. Because central bakes print money and devalue our currency, big companies have to look to ways to find cheaper work to keep up with inflation. This led to outsourcing manufacturering, then they often look to outsource the engineering as well. At that point bike companies just become marketing firms. 2. I think stealing intellectual property is wrong and I am with you however I am not sure that is what’s going on. I think bike companies are selling open mold frames. In that case I am all for it. Competition drives cheaper prices and in an ever more expensive world I appreciate cheaper prices. Thank you for you comment!

[@dermax_hd]

@@thewreckingball1150 I am with you on the competition part. Brands like Shimano havent been doing new stuff in years until Sram came around and really kicked off the 1x11/12/13 trend now and really forced Shimano to do something new. Actual Brands like ZRace (from what I can tell) that actually design, engineer and manufactur their own original parts are absolutely amazing. I'm totally with you on that as well but when it comes to the frame especially I'm really not sure I'd like to support that. In any case thanks for answering my thoughts :) Really interesting video and topic for sure

[@thewreckingball1150]

@@dermax_hd no problem man I really value input even if we don’t agree. In a way viewers are my boss, so you all dictate the direction of my channel so keep voicing your opinions and it might just change the channel.

[@RoughWalkers]

What about the £300 bikes for riding on tarmac?

[@Migel0yahu]

Good video, I think KZbin is hiding these videos from me, how is the frame behaving?

[@thewreckingball1150]

Going strong still

[@RedClay96]

first time watching your channel, love the content man keep it up

[@thewreckingball1150]

Thank you for the encouragement! Will do.

[@mkusakify]

i'm looking for the rotors, it looks like there might be some very good black friday prices on some of these items.. Thank you for this video and the information.

[@thewreckingball1150]

No problem!

[@djberg3483]

I’m really interested in the long term on the wheels, got back into riding with a 2015 camber, pretty much modeled it around the idea of down country, then budget built an evo alloy, big keys are the grey market deore groupset(phenomenal) and a used cane creek helm, the bike rips, but now the camber is going to go full weight weenie, and that wheelset could be a good addition, if they make it in non boost.

[@thewreckingball1150]

There are a lot of great options for non boost wheels, you can also just buy the hoops for like $150 each and then have a shop build them up. I have done that in the past.

[@djberg3483]

@@thewreckingball1150 my shop guy would shoot me lol, would be better off just building a truing stand.

[@xaviermann9963]

What are you using a as a dropper post?

[@thewreckingball1150]

Fox transfer

[@felipeohyaaraujo8002]

Hi, my friend! I'd like to know why you stopped making videos (they were really good), and how is your MTB after one year of use?

[@thewreckingball1150]

Financial cost, and I was dealing with some medical issues that made me lose motivation for working after my day job. I’ll make more though.

[@felipeohyaaraujo8002]

@@thewreckingball1150 Your videos are really good, don’t get discouraged because soon you’re going to go viral with your content! Wish you a speedy recovery, bro!

[@levifulop7283]

You should leave a more detailed review on the frame, such as If it has loose fibers, excess resin, or paint overspray or anything. Also Brake mount, derailleurhanger and bottombracket alignment

[@thewreckingball1150]

Honestly it would be a short video because it was great

[@headofmyself5663]

I have already build a roadbike and a gravel bike from AE. I had the same concerns as you have described, but there was nothing wrong at all and i was really critically looking for everything. The builds were extremely smooth since everything was perfect. Also the custom paint job and the visible carbon layering look awesome. At first i just thought i give it a shot. If it was shit, i would have used it for indoor training. But i was pleasantly surprised and i have full confidence in quality. So much that i smashed it down on numerous high speed decents in the Alps. I would also like to mention that i was able to order the integrated stem and handlebar to my exact wishes. I simply asked for it and the seller just said: we make it for you, no problem. Same applies for wheels, where you simply ask them for customization like center lock instead of 6 bolt or wider rims and stuff like that.

[@loldev]

Epic, what frame did you end up getting?

[@thewreckingball1150]

Is is an specialized epic clone frame. It is updated in the video description.

[@eriksdodges853]

High rise bars are the best. Absolutely hate flat bars .... loving my 3" rise protaper bars!

[@thewreckingball1150]

They are a lot of fun

[@EstebenReyes]

Is this for hardtrail or only downhill

[@bmxryan]

How did you find out about these parts?

[@thewreckingball1150]

They are on aliexpress

[@nick_john]

Did your frame come equipped with headset and BB cups?

[@thewreckingball1150]

It came with a headset that I had to modify slightly with a spacer and it came with a threaded bb but the cranks I bought come with the bb

[@YTOnlineReviews]

Glad to see your videos. Amazing review. keep going.

[@thewreckingball1150]

🫡 you got it!

[@andrewburrows7711]

like this video a lot! but I cant find jib bikes on Ali express so ill stick to my commenca; meta tr 650b but brakes got me interested

[@thewreckingball1150]

It’s definitely hard to just even find anything other that xc bikes. I’m working to find some good other options though

[@monocongo]

Thanks for the video, nice one! Can you please advise which size bushings and/or mount kit you used for the rear shock? I will use a RockShox Select+ 190x45.

[@thewreckingball1150]

The bushing is just the same 1/2 inch bushing used by almost all of them. Then the metal piece in there is a special size. Send me an email and I can send you a picture.

[@BIIIKES]

Love this. Question, what is the combined weight of your wheels? Sub 1700 grams, maybe? I'm pricing out new wheels.

[@thewreckingball1150]

Great question. I assume you mean without tires and stuff? If so I will have to take that off so I might need a little bit of time to find out.

[@MTBMOR]

Curious about this too, but I'd like to see if they stand the test of time. My Canyon Trail Lux is under 27 lbs with 30mm internal wheels.

[@Upthegicker]

Am looking at this frame also, but can't see how I can run a remote lockout to the shock? Is there a routing for a cable that I can't see? Anyone?

[@thewreckingball1150]

I don’t think a remote lockout will work without drilling a hole in the frame. I still might try so stay tuned.

[@afonsomatias7734]

🔥🔥🔥

[@devincook3278]

I bought a knockoff one piece bar/stem and it didnt fit right either. I ended up just sanding the inside out a little then they fit. I didnt even sand away any carbon. I juat removed the paint from the inside then they worked.

[@thewreckingball1150]

Nice I will give that a try!

[@mickp10]

Tbank you for the excellent walk through of building a quality bike at fantastic value.

[@thewreckingball1150]

No problem!

[@rip.tear.]

Cool content, really like the build! I'm looking at buying some of those wheels you used and I have a few questions Which spokes did you decide to go for, 2015 seem crazy heavy? How heavy were yours? I read a few bad things about the rear hub failing, have you had any issues and do you know anyone else running them without issue?

[@thewreckingball1150]

The 2015 didn’t feel heavy at all. The wheels are very light. I haven’t weighed them yet but I will because I am getting a lot of questions about it. I’ll make a post about it. So far the rear hub hasn’t failed, but if they do I will update asap.

[@rip.tear.]

@@thewreckingball1150 thanks for the reply, do you think it’s best to go with the 2015 spokes despite the weight penalty? Will definitely be keen to see what the weight is

[@thewreckingball1150]

@@rip.tear. if it is a weight penalty I don’t think it’s much

[@amountainbiker2654]

Way to go man let me know how this holds up

[@thewreckingball1150]

🫡 will do

[@PurlCat]

Bro what, do you have a special contact at Evil to get that dropper? Im in Bellingham too, I wouldnt mind some new take-off parts. Solid build btw. How did you choose that specific frame? Does it have a good reputation, or is the manufacturer well known? Ive been on hardtails during my whole MTB journey, currently on a Chromag Stylus. But I would love to do a build like this, I have found plenty of good components on Aliexpress but finding a good frame seems to be the most difficult part.

[@thewreckingball1150]

Hey man. No no affiliation with evil just found a post on Pinkbike but and sell and jumped on it. The frame I went with I researched on a forum called chinertown. I definitely wouldn’t say these Chinese frames have a good reputation but just kinda took a risk and went for it. The frame has been treating me good so far though.

[@PurlCat]

@@thewreckingball1150 Nice, thanks for the info. I haven't come across that forum before, will definitely check it out.

[@Ar24021]

i saw a video of a guy reviewing a Chinese carbon frame (just like this one) after the bike snapped while riding breaking hisleg in 3 places

[@thewreckingball1150]

I saw a bald eagle this weekend.

[@kristallovich]

Hi! May I ask you how many bearings the link has? I have the impression that sliding bushings are installed there instead of bearings.

[@thewreckingball1150]

That’s correct there are mostly sliding bearings, but one set where the chain stay meets the front triangle is a full bearing.

[@jleau89]

mind sharing the link to the fork sale?

[@thewreckingball1150]

I found it in pink bike no link unfortunately

[@MTBMOR]

Just subbed. I hope to see follow up in a few months.

[@thewreckingball1150]

You got it 🫡

[@ciurdea8984]

A review after some km?

[@jymtb]

Do you know if the geometry is the same as the epic evo?

[@thewreckingball1150]

It’s the same as the epic not the evo

[@Cyclingches01]

Are you using 11 or 12 speed? I have the ztto XD 11 speed 9-46t cassette and the shifting just isn't great. I have 3 of them in fact, for some reason 2 of them work a bit better than the other, and I find using a 12 speed chain can get the shifting to be acceptable.

[@thewreckingball1150]

I use 12 speed and seems to work fine

[@puckpower1]

It would be really awesome if you would post links for the frame and parts that you used on your build! You have a very nice style and delivery in your vids!

[@thewreckingball1150]

Sure man, I can do that. I work a day job but I will later tonight or tomorrow.

[@puckpower1]

PERFECT! I look forward to seeing the links! I am planning to build a similar bike. Thanks again@@thewreckingball1150

[@thewreckingball1150]

Nice the links are updated!@@puckpower1

[@mesiroy1234]

‏‪1:11‬‏ I saw one guy on yotube his suspe ion broke in half like this 💔 , he said nver buy chinsse carbon again​@

[@rossejera1661]

with that price point, you can just buy a budget FS thats better in quality. vitus, polygon siskiu, marin rift zone, canyon neuron, norco fluid

[@thewreckingball1150]

I bet they weigh more that 26 lbs and have terrible suspension

[@rossejera1661]

@@thewreckingball1150as you said "building a cheap killer mtb" not building a racing XC. 😂 and most FS especially trail, all mountain, enduro dont even weigh less than 26, so dunno why you even brought that up. Also, You make it sound as if rockshox recon or marzocchi bomber is similar to a coil suntour. Even a nukeproof mega with RS domain and 4 piston brakes are selling for 2k right now

[@johndef5075]

​@@rossejera1661sounds like he's building what he wants. Dont understand your criticism.

[@rossejera1661]

@@johndef5075 Go watch the vid. He is showing us how to build a bike thats supposedly is great but cheap. Ending it cost 2.6k, roughly the same cost as the average branded mtb. the irony

[@jleau89]

@@rossejera1661 learn to compare apples with apples

[@SIZAGOBIKE]

Mantap nih sepeda nya... Salam kenal semuanya

[@thewreckingball1150]

Sorry dude don’t know that language.

[@YourMOMbio1234]

holding up

[@MTBCRINGE]

so sick, keep it up bro

[@thewreckingball1150]

🫡 will do!

[@mesiroy1234]

I saw one guy on yotube his suspe ion broke in half like this 💔 , he said nver buy chinsse carbon again​@

[@Lifesbeengood]

The question is, does the aliexpress bike frame come with a warranty?

[@thewreckingball1150]

It comes with a 2 year warranty

[@maccajft9616]

The bike in the thumbnail looks sp similar to my boardman mtr8.9 And for a budget bike She does it all I am very surprised £1,825 fully built. I was very surprised at the ride quality. Upgrading forks and rear shock at some point but in no rush at all.

[@thewreckingball1150]

Nice, never heard of that but stoked it works for you!

[@blindspotclinic]

I just ordered a medium. Planning to put a Manitou Mara on it. Could the harshness be the sid lux xc tune? It seems like this frame is identical to the epic evo.

[@thewreckingball1150]

So the harshness is from the shock but that was because I could only find the tune for the epic evo. So it will work fine if you use the epic shock tune. Unfortunately it isn't identical to the epic evo, It is the epic there is a really detailed post on a forum called Chinertown. Just give that a google and it will explain everything.

[@blindspotclinic]

@@thewreckingball1150 got it, it is the non evo epic linkage, 2:1 vs 3:1 evo. The forum also discussed the chain stays being shorter but on the frame I ordered, same 438mm chain stay length as evo. So thinking of running longer stroke shock.190x50

[@thewreckingball1150]

I am not sure that will work but it might! Best of luck and feel free to reach out if you get stuck on the build.

[@semenkozulin3108]

Niiiiiiiice video!!!

[@thewreckingball1150]

Thank you!

[@sugxi]

Interesting video i think theres a lot of potential for chinese parts but i would be a bit scared to ride that frame tbh. Luckily for me i got an epic evo comp for about a grand more than your build Yes its expensive but as an xc racer i js cant rock up on chinese parts. Plus theres a lot of weight i can take down in the future by getting carbon wheels, cranks and a cockpit. Its also good to support your local bikeshops if you have the means. But yea sick ride gang.

[@thewreckingball1150]

I race xc and smoke dudes on bikes 3 times as much. Why does being an xc racer change that? Like are you self conscious or worried about the parts

[@sugxi]

@@thewreckingball1150 a bit of both. I'm 18 so yeah ig I'm a bit self conscious about the parts even the comp with gx axs on it makes me feel broke when all my mates are on like 12 grand bikes. And the races mean a lot to me because I have to prove I can do well in the sport starting kinda late so i don't want to take a risk on something that might be lighter but have reliability issues and possibly break in a race. Or have an issue where I need to get a replacement and have to do a lot of work to get that sorted. But yeah I totally agree you don't need the most blinged out bike to shred. I do well in races even on the 26-27lb comp build.

[@thewreckingball1150]

@@sugxi remember ftp and skill reign supreme.

[@enricobettesworth251]

Nice! Is the frame still going strong?

[@kolehollis5852]

As soon as I saw the frame alone was 700$ that's was pretty much it

[@SystemParanoia]

When you can install solar panels and battery for your home for the same price as a branded full sus MTB... you know the industry has lost its damn mind!

[@ian-baldwin-woodworking]

You can get a tool to bend rotors

[@thewreckingball1150]

Ya I usually just use a crescent wrench.

[@tombeck129]

So “misuse” of this bike is off-road riding or cyclocross? 😂 While that sounds stupid for a full suspension bike, it also gives you an idea of how they would stand behind their product and how confident they are in it. Note the other gem in that warranty: “we will try our best to avoid any quality problem”.

[@thewreckingball1150]

I’d definitely agree does not inspire confidence

[@tabby4kyeet589]

Only issue is that the bike probably gonna snap

[@thewreckingball1150]

Maybe! It has occurred to me that that was a risk.

[@fieraci8500]

bolt that vice down to the bench, buddy.

[@thewreckingball1150]

Don’t call me buddy but I will once I build a bigger bench

[@fieraci8500]

Good deal, Chief. Nothing like a sturdy workbench with a rock solid vice.

[@thewreckingball1150]

@@fieraci8500 chief I can deal with 😂

[@rileyprogamer]

Hi good vid man

[@thewreckingball1150]

Thank you!

[@CHEE3457]

yo nice bro

[@thewreckingball1150]

Thank you!

[@Yoda-em5mt]

The bike industry is a total rip off i used th work for a big bike company and there margins are totally insaine . Curious what was so bad about the deraileur and shifter ?

[@khmerghost]

Just imagine buying MTB that cost the same as a Kawasaki ZX10R 2016.

[@latiasgx]

if 700$ is cheap then poverty

[@thewreckingball1150]

Relative to what specialized charges it is cheap.

[@The_Blessed_Cowboy]

Lol! Have you seen other vids of this bike? This carbon frame will put you in a leg cast!!

[@thewreckingball1150]

Coward

[@The_Blessed_Cowboy]

@@thewreckingball1150 nah! Just super hesitant when it comes to stuff manufactured in China. In my exp you get what you pay for.

[@meteormedia7021]

I know, cheap chinese frames look appealing on paper, but they are bait. You don't pay name brand companies for the bike, you pay them for the warranty thy provide. In case of actual Specialized, you get an unconditional life-time warranty against manufacturing defects. Good luck getting that from some chinese company. Also Specialized bikes are made by Merida, not some random chinese oem.

[@thewreckingball1150]

This frame comes with a 3 year warranty

[@mouatazx]

Easy flip , why dont you sell these for 3k ? Mass make them and start selling them 🤔

[@thewreckingball1150]

It’s about of work and they need a lot of fixing. So even though I showed the full bike I still did a lot of work I didn’t show

[@wad671]

"My bike is cheap" Frame: $723 Lmao My bike is cheap, it was $5 from the dump buyback

[@thewreckingball1150]

I bet it rides like a $5 bike too

[@TheOneTrueD]

@@thewreckingball1150 So does yours - only difference is you paid $723. The sheer scale of R&D, QA/QC, pro rider experience/input, and design expertise that reputable manufacturers put into their bikes should not be underestimated. The fact that you not only seem to think that comparable quality is achievable with this mass-produced Chinese assembly line crap, but also appear stoic enough to make a video to convince others that that is the case, is incredibly alarming to any seasoned MTB rider. Content like this is the reason we need the dislike bar back on KZbin.

[@thewreckingball1150]

@@TheOneTrueD nah it rides great so far, I’ll let you know if I break it.

[@feedussoup8999]

Did you say cheap?

[@thewreckingball1150]

Believe it or not that is relativly cheap compared to the industry. My bike if I bought one instead of built it would cost easily $6k. I am going to do a real budget mountain bike on the channel soon.

[@discombob93]

Would love to see a China carbon hardtail single-speed build for max-reliability fitness riding when it is bombing rain@@thewreckingball1150

[@jeromep4148]

You may be disappointed with the suspension choices. I did the same thing 2 yrs ago and had to swap out brakes , rotors, and suspension - but things may have changed, so go for it!

[@feedussoup8999]

Should I consider another hobby then? Because that's alot more money than I have lol.

[@nate8930]

What the heck is downcountry

[@mitchreadwin1983]

A short travel trail bike