My BMW R1200GS is broken! Full shock replacement.....or is this just what BMW say? Price comparison.

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Wheelie Good TV

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@terrellgarren7125
@terrellgarren7125 11 ай бұрын
Interesting. I live in the States. A year ago, the rear shock on my Multistrada 1200S failed. Local BMW/Ducati dealer wanted $3,300 USD to repair. They offered a silly trade in price, take it or leave it. No other options. After several days of googling for used shocks and repair options, I found a gentleman on eBay in the UK that does shock rebuilds. He repaired the shock for $300. Wonderful gentleman. I think it was Luke Lucas at T-Tech Suspension. I am happily on a V-Strom 1050XT now. Best to you.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Yes a few people are mentioning this chap. I’ll store that seed in my brain. 👌
@grantridout1884
@grantridout1884 11 ай бұрын
There is a video of the person you mentioned (T-Tech Suspension) rebuilding a shock from a 1200GS, the channel is Billy4rocks, worth a look
@fuglbird
@fuglbird 5 ай бұрын
Good for you. I have also upgraded to a Suzuki.
@brianfarrelly7151
@brianfarrelly7151 11 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that you had the bike sorted Dave. I needed a rear shock replaced on a previous 1200 GS, 3 years old and 27,000km and after a lot of communication, BMW Ireland reimbursed me for the total cost. I guess I was one of the lucky ones. Shocking price for a motorbike repair and especially for a low mileage premium product. Hats off to CC Motorcycles in Kells who took care of you. I had problems with a new 1200 Triumph Explorer within warranty and was equally unimpressed with the dealers response - a story for another day. Must check out your dealer in Kells.
@hrmacdonald4471
@hrmacdonald4471 11 ай бұрын
Dealers & autobody shops don't like to fix things, they just want to replace with new parts. That's the way it is here in Canada anyway. Glad to hear you were able to source a shop to rebuild the shocks and a bike shop that actually cares about customer service. Great video & i appreciate your honesty about what happened.
@cpuuk
@cpuuk 11 ай бұрын
TMF had similar issue, his low mileage 1200 had the same issue with the rear shox. Same quoted repair from dealer. He got a good second hand shock and had the local mechanic to change it for way less than half the BMW quote. Did you know that the BMW warranty does not extend to the suspension, the suspension has its own restriction, way less than the rest of the bike . Glad you got it sorted.
@Carlnewman68
@Carlnewman68 11 ай бұрын
Keep your new old bike , she’s looked after you and we’ll keep going on for years
@marcheighton6436
@marcheighton6436 11 ай бұрын
18:07 Hi Dave glad the bike is sorted. Just shows the value of a good local bike dealer who relies on reputation and recommendation. Once out of warranty much better to support them than mercanery mainstream dealers who's prices and overheads are much higher. Maybe you should keep your GS and ditch the dealer. All the best 👍👍👍
@chrisgleeson662
@chrisgleeson662 11 ай бұрын
Exact same thing happened to my 2014 GS. Warranty just expired and the same dealer was very blunt about it too. I fought them on it and BMW eventually covered half of the cost. Still poor I thought, especially from a premium product. Definitely made me re think buying another beemer. Decided to hold on to mine as Ive already rode that depreciation curve, so worth more to me to keep now, than to trade in. Plus it runs great! Thanks for sharing this
@gogathome
@gogathome 11 ай бұрын
Glad you got it sorted Dave and back loving your GS. Thats a shocking service and price from BMW. I hate that take it or leave it attitude from main dealers, feck all customer service. On the other hand, small good independent bike shops like those guys in CCs Unlimited should be applauded. We were heading up North one weekend and my uncles GS got a flat, which we repaired at the roadside however it was a big enough hole, so few calls round and CCs Unlimited sorted us out, we were about an hour from them, drove up, they replaced tyre, while we looked around at the bikes upstairs and we were on our way again and still made it to the hotel on the north coast that night, great service 👍
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Yep that’s top class service.
@splodge57
@splodge57 11 ай бұрын
BMW dealers are the same in England, not interested in helping you save money, they just want to charge the highest price possible. They are one of the most unreliable brands with the biggest recall issues. Having tried two I now steer well clear of them. You're lucky to have found a good, honest independent dealer.
@forestboy54
@forestboy54 11 ай бұрын
@splodge5714 sorry but that's definitely not the case. My last 4 BMW bikes 3xGS 1xS1XR have covered 5 continents over 59 countries and at least 250000 miles. All have been supplied and serviced by Cotswold Motorrad Cheltenham. They have been amazing and certainly never expensive especially compared to the other main brands Triumph and Honda locally, and they're customer service is second to none. 👍FB
@markhewitt6406
@markhewitt6406 11 ай бұрын
I've only had bad experiences with BMW dealers and their charging/level of service. Still have my bmw but service it myself so at least I know it's done.
@setter3329
@setter3329 11 ай бұрын
CC's are top class,sound lads,bought a bike there years ago when i lived in Virginia
@murray5257
@murray5257 11 ай бұрын
I can fully appreciate your issue. I was the proud owner of a 2008 R1200GS which only had 18,000 miles on it when I bought it. Within 4,000 miles of owning it, the rear electronic pre-load adjust failed - the shock was fine but no ability to adjust pre-load. Took it to the local BMW dealer who said the entire shock needed to be replaced as the electronics were not serviced as a separate component. If memory serves me, they quoted over US$2,000 for that unit - not something that was going to fly. To be fair, the dealer was very helpful in exploring options and I finally settled on replacing both the front and rear shocks with Wilburs units and manual pre-load adjustment. Dealer helped by sourcing these at their cost and discounting the labor to install. Long story short, this was just one of several "BMW issues" with that bike that resulted in me now aboard a 2017 Africa Twin. A word of caution to you about the Africa Twin - if you take the new one for a test ride, you will buy it, so be prepared!! 😉
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Uncanny how many people have had the same issue after posting this vid. I’m aware of the Africa Twin problem.🤣😉🤗
@owencurran04rn
@owencurran04rn 11 ай бұрын
Christy and John are sound fellas. I've bought 2 bikes off them,one of the bikes had an electronics issue after I bought it,Christy was on the ball and had a solution to the problem. Long story short,Bike fixed and a happy customer. Any time I'm in the market for anything bike related,I give them first chance at it.
@daithimurphy1832
@daithimurphy1832 11 ай бұрын
Bought several bikes at cc's. Always helpful and great customer service.
@claudesmith8458
@claudesmith8458 11 ай бұрын
I have a set of Road 6 on my 2013RT and I love them. It handles the twisties like a pro. Thanks for the info.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 11 ай бұрын
Great result Dave….you hear these sorts of stories far too often!
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Cheers Andy, it’s great to know it doesn’t require a mortgage if there’s a local dealer out there willing to help. 💴 👌🏍
@MOTOUK1
@MOTOUK1 11 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear Dave, 6,000 euro for your bike! that’s crazy. The car and bike second hand market is crashing currently. For that many miles the bikes suspension should not be failing, it’s not like you take it off road allot. Glad to see you got it sorted 👍 just makes me want a GS less than ever. Hope the weather picks up
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Cheers Nick, yes the dealer clearly trying to ride me sideways here. I’m aware of it now though and potentially moving away from BMW as a result. Such a shame as it’s a fantastic bike.
@AuldhannRua
@AuldhannRua 11 ай бұрын
CCs are sound lads. Glad the bike is back on the road Dave.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
You told me about them first Dylan before I’d even stepped foot in their shop. 👌🏍
@gregoryprice2593
@gregoryprice2593 11 ай бұрын
Dave, thank you for the countdown timer at the front of your videos!!!! We're all tired of getting sound-blasted by people screaming as soon as the video starts.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Somebody else appreciated this recently too. 🤣👍
@WindyOut
@WindyOut 11 ай бұрын
Good on you, Dave, for telling it as it is.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Yes it’s probably ended any relationship with the BMW dealer but I was pretty p***ed off. 🥴
@Markonamotorbike
@Markonamotorbike 11 ай бұрын
well done Dave, nice to hear a bit of honesty for a change, great videos by the way.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Cheers Mark.👌🙏
@peterdane9138
@peterdane9138 11 ай бұрын
The Missenden Flyers GS shock went a few years back.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
So I gather. It’s surprising how many have.
@andrewbroderick9302
@andrewbroderick9302 11 ай бұрын
Glad to hear you got sorted Dave, GS's are super bikes if you have deep pockets and don't mind putting up with expensive repair bills !
@exeterrider
@exeterrider 11 ай бұрын
This will start to catch up with BMW, I keep hearing of these stories. There are still a few good dealers but finding them is the tough thing. Glad your happy and back on it 👍
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
How are you man?! I’m delighted to be back on it although it’s somewhat bitter sweet.
@exeterrider
@exeterrider 11 ай бұрын
@@WheelieGoodTV Mustn't grumble mate, if I start I won't stop!😂👍
@johnwelbers4248
@johnwelbers4248 11 ай бұрын
Wow that’s great you got that great service from your local dealer. BMW problems do scare me,as much as I like my 2017 gsa. People always bashing Harley, but I have an ultra limited for years and not near problems that I hear from bmw 😮🍻😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦
@mototakahe836
@mototakahe836 11 ай бұрын
I had always done std servicing on my bikes but when I had a GS, I had to take my mechanicing to another level, as I could not afford BMW pricing. So I perfectly understand understand your disillusionment with BM.
@keithmckendrick1722
@keithmckendrick1722 5 ай бұрын
Yeh mine got rebuilt a few years ago Dave...mines a 2015 1200...a company called TT who also specialise in ESA rebuilds....I won't be getting shut of mine...probably my last bike...agree about the tyres the Road 6s are superb...just waiting for the free shaft is a few hundred miles (about 37K miles)...that should be fun...ride safe..slainte mhath....🤘🏍🏴‍☠
@davidslocombe2634
@davidslocombe2634 11 ай бұрын
I had something similar but perhaps more drastic. The steel shaft on my R1200RT rear shock snaped in half whilst on a ride. BMW were not interested in examining it for metal fatigue in case there was a pending issue for others. I was surprised but perhaps I shoul not have been.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Yes that doesn’t surprise me knowing what I know now. 🤔
@paulpartridge2674
@paulpartridge2674 11 ай бұрын
TMF had a similar experience with his rear shock. Finding a decent dealer or independent is not easy. Look forward to April 👍
@stepheneldridge6998
@stepheneldridge6998 11 ай бұрын
Glad you got the bike sorted Dave...big bills seem to go hand in hand with the big Beemers..didn't the shocks fail on the Long Way round GS's...? Finding a good and friendly independent mechanic is the answer...main dealer prices are crazy. Cheers Steve
@ydarbg
@ydarbg 11 ай бұрын
Ami Gorey... Reconditioned shock fitted at a reasonable cost.. 2.5K-3.5K options are available if you want a new genuine or a touatech variant. Delighted with my reconditioned one and it also means I no longer have the rust on the lower end of the spring which annoyed me😅
@scottyuk
@scottyuk 11 ай бұрын
Crazy quoting on new shocks when they just needed a rebuild. Even if they were needed the price is insane! I too had the Metzler (01 SE) and I had the front sliding. Only had them as couldn't get the Michelin. I've just put in another set of Road 6 which just deliver. I'll be doing a complete coastal lap of Ireland on them in August 👍
@ianlogan9415
@ianlogan9415 11 ай бұрын
Glad you got the bike sorted Dave. The BMW dealership up here in the north hasn't a great reputation either!
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Cheers Ian.
@sphyrnidus
@sphyrnidus 11 ай бұрын
This happened to me a couple of years ago. Only the rear shock was gone. I got an offer from the dealer for €1800, the specialised suspension shop changed the shocks and springs , front and rear for €1200. So yes, BMW charges a lot...
@tonywilliamson4512
@tonywilliamson4512 11 ай бұрын
Big reason why i came away from bmw loved my GS'S but they peeing me off with their pricing and TBO for a priuem brand they have lots of faults.good vlogs from you keep em oming.
@Partizano
@Partizano 11 ай бұрын
Should have sent the shock to Lucas @T-Tech Suspension, that would be a valuable service and upgrade
@bikemarkj
@bikemarkj 11 ай бұрын
Been a BMW rider for 20 years, but my R1200R had a drive shaft issue, £3K repair, then the rear shock went soft at 20K miles, traded it in for a Ducati V2 Multistrada. Just got £3K bill for my BMW car, I am also done with this brand.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Wow, I thought I was hard done by. 🥴
@milesdavis8665
@milesdavis8665 11 ай бұрын
I had 5 bmw cars. The x5 I had was the worst. Cost me $3500 to replace both rear shocks. Then the front started going. Also found out my engine block was cracked. Hence the smoking. That's my only thing about owning a bmw. Bike or car. I've been looking into buying a GS but I would try and do all the maintenance myself. Ebay helps as well for parts. The shocks on a gs cost just as much on the front or rear of their cars. Glad you got your issue worked out
@neilurquhart8622
@neilurquhart8622 11 ай бұрын
Why did you buy 5 BMW cars and are even thinking about getting a GS?
@milesdavis8665
@milesdavis8665 11 ай бұрын
@neilurquhart8622 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣. I watched a valve check video and found a new found respect for the GS. They really did take into account that some people like to do their own maintenance. I thought I should give the GS a try but the hair stands up on the back of my neck when I think about it
@MRGS48
@MRGS48 11 ай бұрын
That’s insane what Frau Beemer dealerships or should I say stealerships charge… Same way Harley does as well. Harley quoted me $4000 OTD for a cam swap including labor off course and parts. I did it in my garage in a week taking my time for roughly $1000 (special tools needed) and couldn’t be happier… I tend to trust independent shops a whole lot more after HD is charging $170 per hour labor…! Glad you sorted it out my friend… Cheers from across the pond in Arizona 🫡🇺🇸🌵
@herrdirektor1969
@herrdirektor1969 11 ай бұрын
Good story. Glad you didn't shell out the full Monty to repair by the bmw dealer
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Yes and I thought at one stage it was going to be my only option.😬
@joem5639
@joem5639 8 ай бұрын
I’m considering purchasing a 2015 1200GS with standard (non-esa) suspension. Previously owned a 2017 1200 GS exclusive which I really miss. Curious to see how the non-sea GS compares in ride quality.
@chrisgibbs1615
@chrisgibbs1615 11 ай бұрын
You do realise bmw stands for bring more wonga lol, happy to hear you are sorted.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
🤣👌
@ianherbertson2344
@ianherbertson2344 11 ай бұрын
Hi are you allowed to say which wizard rebuild the shocks for future reference as I've the same as your good self many thanks
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
I don’t actually know Ian but I could find out if needed.
@ianherbertson2344
@ianherbertson2344 11 ай бұрын
That would be great thank you just for future reference !!!!!!
@garethcouhig6055
@garethcouhig6055 11 ай бұрын
Good morning,thanks for your honesty on this video ,makes it a interesting video.coffee on its way.👍Manxman 🇮🇲
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Manxman! 🙏
@Coatsey007
@Coatsey007 11 ай бұрын
Always, enjoy your videos mate. I have R1260 RT with all the panniers, I look like California highway patrol because it’s white 🤣, I also have an S 1000 R but last summer I came back to the UK and bought a Ducati Diavel V4 to do a 5 week tour around Europe. All I can say is it was an amazing bike because I managed to get two pennies on it and I was able to tour but also have the funny five minutes. It’s quite a bike and I think you’d be quite intrigued by it. For me it does both. I’d be very interested to see you make a video on test driving that bike. I think it’s good enough to count as two bikes. Keep them coming, looking forward to the next one.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
I’ve always had a soft spot for a Diavel. I love the look of the new ones. Maybe I’ll look out for a test ride. 👀🏍️
@ImJensenKing
@ImJensenKing 11 ай бұрын
Any details for who did the shock rebuild, would be useful as considering a spring rate change even Dynamic feels ‘squidgy’ two up with luggage on b road tarmac. How are you finding the DJI mic 2 after a couple of weeks use?
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
I didn’t even ask CC’s who they sent it to. There word was good enough. Mic2 has a couple of flaws which need to be addressed in a future firmware update. I can’t seem to change the auto power off after 15mins and the Bluetooth drains the battery in the camera.
@ImJensenKing
@ImJensenKing 11 ай бұрын
@@WheelieGoodTV good to know got a few batts but power bank might be an option for bar cam at least
@johnharvey5338
@johnharvey5338 11 ай бұрын
Remember you can but aftermarket ESA shocks from Triactive and WP, brought a triactive rear unit for my S1000XR
@glennturnbull8568
@glennturnbull8568 11 ай бұрын
I have owned six new BMW’s since 2014 and currently have a GSA and a R9T and not had any serious problems with any of them. May be I have been lucky. Having said that I keep my GS’s for a maximum of three years so that they are always in warranty.
@evaggelospasiakos1521
@evaggelospasiakos1521 6 ай бұрын
For those In the Uk, maybe abroad too. There is a guy in South London that repairs BMW suspensions for far less than what is mentioned in this video. Even if you are in EU I would think it is more worth to send your shock to him than any other option.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 6 ай бұрын
Please share the details as I’m sure we could give him a lot of work. Not many here in Ireland doing this kind of repair. Cheers.
@TallyHoTech
@TallyHoTech 11 ай бұрын
Did you find the battery cover
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
🤣Sure did, the mechanic had it on a workbench. 👌
@kevingallen1678
@kevingallen1678 11 ай бұрын
Should have kept the FJR!
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
🤣👌
@TrooperTed
@TrooperTed 11 ай бұрын
Mate of mine has a GS, best thing he ever bought for it was the extended warranty that covered everything. Half the bike is brand new at this stage with parts being replaced on it 😂 Just one point, we do have PCP in Ireland, I've bought bikes on both HP and PCP via BMW Motorrad
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
I never knew that about PCP. 🤯
@MrJpm73
@MrJpm73 11 ай бұрын
Have a 2014 GS. Great bike but it has started making the same noises as you described. And I thought the same...it must be the centre stand rattling against the frame! Dammit 😢
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Uh oh.😬
@Themotograndpa
@Themotograndpa 11 ай бұрын
Hi Dave try a tiger 900 rally pro your be surprised how good that is done 3 tours in Europe on mine it 👍 keep up the great and honest reviews 👍
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
On the list bud. 😉
@geraldfitzgibbon7428
@geraldfitzgibbon7428 11 ай бұрын
What milage was on bike when u noticed the noise first? . Im from carlow and years ago bought bike from c,c, .that was great service u got from them
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
There was 30000Km when i noticed the ‘knocking’ and 33000 when i took it in and found out the news. 🔧
@geraldfitzgibbon7428
@geraldfitzgibbon7428 11 ай бұрын
Not great milage so. Fingers xs my 2018 rt fairs better.​@@WheelieGoodTV
@dalewintle9969
@dalewintle9969 11 ай бұрын
Not great from a main dealership, glad your local garage sorted you out mate , I've also been looking at the Tiger 900GT PRO , it looks and sounds amazing, take a look at the CFMOTO 800 MT , it's got the KTM 790 engine and at the moment you get full luggage included in Mainland UK there £9200 on the road at the moment, a buddy of mine at the local KTM dealership has test rode one and was raving about it after 👍🏼
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Cheers Dale, looking forward to test riding a 900 GT Pro soon. 😜👌
@marcoluoma3770
@marcoluoma3770 11 ай бұрын
A precautionary tale. Thanks for the fore-warning.
@spoon3223
@spoon3223 4 ай бұрын
Great video, do you know the name of the firm in England who reconditioned the shocks? I need to send my rear one to get fixed, and I'm way away in Asia! Cheers
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 4 ай бұрын
I’m afraid I don’t Thomas. I didn’t want to ask my bike shop in Kells incase they thought I might be pulling a fast one to go direct. Sorry about that. You could always ring Christy in CC’s unlimited in Kells, tell him you were watching this vid and explain what you’re wanting. 👌🤔
@garysmith70
@garysmith70 11 ай бұрын
Triumph all the way!
@nikoscosmos
@nikoscosmos 11 ай бұрын
Don't kid yourself 😅
@garysmith70
@garysmith70 11 ай бұрын
@nikoscosmos How very dare you 🤣🤣🤣 K tech suspension isn't it?
@nikoscosmos
@nikoscosmos 11 ай бұрын
@@garysmith70 T Tech is what I have...on FB. Some friends in my touring club have Triumph Explorers....I am frequently summoned to pick them up off the ground in various hotel car parks!
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Loving mine 😍
@krzysiekg1983
@krzysiekg1983 5 ай бұрын
Isn't rotation on the front tyre wrong? 🤔
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 5 ай бұрын
Hope not, I’m gonna check now!!🤔🤯
@Nordkapp65
@Nordkapp65 11 ай бұрын
Interesting , I had a great experience with J Duffy getting the R9T serviced after coming back from Spain and Portugal last year. Might hold off on a new motor as Ducati not looking too bad at those prices
@michaelcallan4121
@michaelcallan4121 11 ай бұрын
I think Dave your ire probably should be directed more to BMW Motorrad HQ in Munich Germany rather than towards the hapless dealership. The dealership do not set part prices and are bound to only use replacement parts including tyres etc. approved by BMW HQ engineers for each specific model. Labour costs may also be slightly above smaller outfits as the dealership has to maintain expensive showrooms, pay sales people, service managers etc. In any event glad you got sorted and thanks for sharing your experience.
@lukaszt-techsuspension3412
@lukaszt-techsuspension3412 3 ай бұрын
This can be painfull message from the dealership...
@lesperchard3793
@lesperchard3793 11 ай бұрын
Hi Dave, sorry to hear of the issues with your GS, if you are considering getting a Tiger 900 GT Pro I would strongly recommend you consider it. I’m 71 5’7” 29” leg & a couple of years ago bought 1, they are an amazing bike with a great spec & will do it all. Unfortunately for me I had a wobble on it just after I got it ( nearly dropped it on a camber ) & it unnerved me, a few weeks later I bought the low comfort seat 20mm lower but unheated then saw a video on YT where they fitted a heat pad to the low seat using the bikes original system & it worked flawlessly. The channel is called 3ft deep & the video is cold best comfort, they are based in Canada, I emailed them a couple of times to ask them things & they were very helpful, it cost me about £30 to convert it. I’m on my 5th Triumph now & my first being a 2010 Street Triple R after not riding for 40 years got on that as if I’d never been off a bike great. Also relating to the roads by you, below the back light on the Tiger is a letter box slot which I believe throws up mud etc so I bought a 3D printed infill which you simply silicone in to remedy. Good luck with whatever you choose & keep the videos coming…..regards Les.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Les, good info there. Yes I’ll be riding the Tiger soon on a test ride. Looking forward to it. 👌
@muz1406
@muz1406 7 ай бұрын
I am looking at a gs1200, what is the tank range on the 1200? I tried the 2024 Tiger 900 after owning an 800, hated the engine and tft. Trade in was just as crap with Triumph.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 7 ай бұрын
I get about 200KM on an and riding carefully with a lot of cruise control.
@muz1406
@muz1406 7 ай бұрын
@@WheelieGoodTV wow, that is only about 125 miles, was expecting better than that.
@wjb2
@wjb2 11 ай бұрын
Can’t believe how many GS need shocks .
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Yes I’m only learning this now.
@splodge57
@splodge57 11 ай бұрын
Suspension and rear shafts are a big issue. Very expensive parts that are probably made in China.
@wjb2
@wjb2 11 ай бұрын
i was interested in the comment you made ref the rebuild company’s “it wasn’t that bad” statement as an retired engineer i wonder what’s causing the failures ( poor seals , poor original assembly of the shocks)
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
@@wjb2 I’ve subsequently found out it was bad seals.
@wjb2
@wjb2 11 ай бұрын
@@WheelieGoodTV p.s. did you find your cover ?
@johnmacdonald1878
@johnmacdonald1878 11 ай бұрын
What year and what kind of mileage or kilometres on the bike? I’ve felt the centre stand bounce, and bottomed out, so perhaps not being entirely sensible. Still rides fine. I have a 2017 R1200GS, 85000 km. No issues AFAIK, nice to know there are rebuild options of ever needed. Particularly since I really really like the bike. I like getting it a bit dirty, even dropped it a few times. A shiny one might not be quite as much fun.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
2016 and only 33000km.
@ioandragulescu6063
@ioandragulescu6063 11 ай бұрын
That's BMW's business model. Replace and charge the customer. There's more videos around with how much it costs to replace an ESA suspension and yeah, it's eye watering. Another reason why I chose a 1050 v strom.
@henryvaneyk3769
@henryvaneyk3769 11 ай бұрын
Welcome to BMW. I never let the agent service specific parts like the suspension. Rather let a suspension specialist do that. The agent's aim is always to get the bike in an out of the workshop as fast as possible, no matter what the cost would be to you.
@IanTed
@IanTed 11 ай бұрын
Well known issue with 1200 GSs, a Google search will save you a fortune with the shock being rebuilt by a suspension specialist. TMF had the same issue…as have several friends. Sounds like the local dealer is a keeper, I have a local car workshop who are similarly brilliant, charged me £150 for a turbo actuator when a franchise dealer told me I needed a new turbo for £1500!!
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Yes TMF had mentioned the exact same problem. I love again now it’s fixed but I’m wary about other things going wrong and the expense involved.
@IanTed
@IanTed 11 ай бұрын
@@WheelieGoodTV I ride a Ducati which is within warranty but I’d be nervous too at the end of the term. Luckily the old Newcastle Ducati franchise have technicians who still do Ducati work at a reasonable price. If £850 for a 18,000 service on a 950 Desmo Multi is reasonable! Down south it can be £1200 plus, it’s a day’s labour plus parts!
@tomgormley5025
@tomgormley5025 11 ай бұрын
I'd be home servicing, or going to a local garage, for servicing once out of warranty. In my experience BMW show no goodwill when the warranty is out anyway. I've a 2016 GS, great bike, cams and followers went at 23k miles, BMW were not interested in any help whatsoever. I was so annoyed I stopped using it and bought a Tiger Sport 660. Fantastic bike as well, I was hooked about half a mile into the test ride. I looked at the Tiger 900 GT Pro as well, but the servicing cost for12,000 miles is over £1000 for that one service. That works out at over 10ppm, So I got the cams and followers replaced, and still spent less on the Tiger Sport and BM repair than it would have cost me to trade up to a new GS. I'll keep the GS until I can't ride it anymore, but like yourself, I doubt I'd buy another one. That's partly down to the dealer experience as well, there's an air of superiority and take it or leave it attitude from my local dealer. Fortunately there's another dealer I can go to when I have to, although it's an extra 150 miles on the return journey.
@johna6968
@johna6968 11 ай бұрын
Seems to be quite common.
@nikoscosmos
@nikoscosmos 11 ай бұрын
P.S. the name of the shock refurbishment company is T Tech Suspension .
@DaveCampervan
@DaveCampervan 11 ай бұрын
T Tech did my 1250 as well when I had the same problem!
@forestboy54
@forestboy54 11 ай бұрын
Hey Dave just been watching the first reviews of the new Africa Twin better suspension better mid range grunt and a 19" front wheel. Oh and a low sear height. Could be a serious contender now. 😊FB
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Yep indeed. I watched it too.😍
@Banditmanuk
@Banditmanuk 11 ай бұрын
'Shocking' I do keep hearing these stories about BMW. Think I recall TMF having a similar issue on his GS. 8 years and 34,000 miles with my Yamaha. No issues so far. I just wonder if I want to own the new high tech 1300 GS when it's out of warranty. Glad you got it sorted. Are you like Harrys Garage where you keep record of all the motorcycle expenses for the year? Probably scary reading 🤣
@aaronbirnie7363
@aaronbirnie7363 7 ай бұрын
how did you get your phone to be held by the GPS mount??
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 7 ай бұрын
There you go! It’s super. amzn.to/3XioNUv
@davidreed6817
@davidreed6817 11 ай бұрын
Nice one Dave and well done for a sourcing an alternative to BMW rip off prices. Dave, how do I find your merchandise?
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Cheers David. Drop me a line to wheeliegoodvideos@gmail.com and I’ll reply with a Merch price list. Cheers mate. 🙏🏍
@g-sailing4427
@g-sailing4427 11 ай бұрын
Joe Duffy tried to scam me too… They came back with a list as long as my arm with things my jeep needed.. including new wiper blades.. funny thing was I had replaced all the wipers with brand new blades the night before I left it in with them.. when I confronted them they said that my report was for a different car and it was a mistake.. then my report had all the exact same items except the wipers and told me It was a coincidence.. pure frauds
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Yes it’s a very one dimensional investment in their customers. The amount of people commenting here like yourself with similar BMW experiences is making me think even stronger about changing brands.
@richardgiles2484
@richardgiles2484 11 ай бұрын
Stick with the one you got, mate 👍 what year is it, and what's the mileage ? I got myself a new Tiger 900 rally pro last year and love it. 😂
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
That Tiger is on my list. My bike is 2016 with 26K miles.
@richardgiles2484
@richardgiles2484 11 ай бұрын
@WheelieGoodTV 26k is nothing, and you shouldn't need new shocks 🙄
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
@@richardgiles2484 yeah I know. 😬
@ktric2007
@ktric2007 11 ай бұрын
Dave, What's the milage and year of your bike ? Curious to hear as I'm on my 3rd GSA and never needed new shocks.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
2016 with 33 thousand Kilometres
@buckymoto1784
@buckymoto1784 11 ай бұрын
BUddy, is your screen just dirty or is it an opaque screen. Cos its kinda annoying not being able to see through it while watching the travels. Glad you got it all sorted out
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Yeah probably needs a clean 🧽
@philipharris2095
@philipharris2095 11 ай бұрын
I had a run with BMW last summer, it was a fight to get the to replace the complete engine casing due to corrosion under warranty on a 1250 GSA with 12000 miles. They did the engine, but wouldn’t do the exhaust headers. At Fishguard last year waiting for the ferry to Rosslare every GS / GSA owner had experienced an issue with their bike. Try the Tiger 1200 GT Pro build quality far superior to BMW, in my opinion it’s a better bike and I’ve owned 3 GSAs.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
After reading all these messages I’m wondering why I still have the bike? The Tiger is top of my list with the new Africa Twin. 😉
@paulsire
@paulsire 11 ай бұрын
2019 gs 1250, rear shock failed at 16km, no off-road, outside warranty. 2500 to replace, no thanks. Hang onto the GS and how about a 350 RE as a nice contrast to your other bikes?
@davidsandilands1285
@davidsandilands1285 11 ай бұрын
Shocking, how many kms has it done?
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Only 33 thousand KM.
@davidsandilands1285
@davidsandilands1285 11 ай бұрын
@@WheelieGoodTVDisappointing. I have a Ducati, I don’t use a mail agent, my local Ducati specialist has been a great help and I trust him.
@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff
@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff 11 ай бұрын
This is why the extended warranty is so popular on BMWs bikes I would suggest?
@carlosquintanilla7817
@carlosquintanilla7817 11 ай бұрын
How many km/miles on your GS? I have a 2017 (also Triple Black).
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
33000KM
@Dmac671
@Dmac671 11 ай бұрын
This happens a lot with the GS at around 25k miles. Get it refurbished
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Yes I’ve heard. The shocks have been sorted now. Thanks for watching 👌🎥🏍️
@robb8773
@robb8773 11 ай бұрын
What year and how many miles on the bike?
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
2016 and 26K miles
@Nomad-Drifter
@Nomad-Drifter 10 ай бұрын
That's why outa warranty I service the bike myself. Not giving them anything! Sounds like you owe your local dealer a 12 pack!
@mdaydj
@mdaydj 11 ай бұрын
Yep same here at just 10k mine failed out of warranty however Bmw uk did agree to reimburse me 80% of the cost of a new shock I had to pay fitting. However there is a company that will rebuild for approx £300 quid and I paid approx £500 to Bmw for difference and fitting with 2 years warranty on the new shock so that made sense to me. I'm not sure I believe in so called German engineering, instead I look at it as "questionable" parts put together by Germans. My Royal Enfield Interceptor may not be as refined as my 20k Beemer but its a ton of fun and with a spanner and socket set and £200 quid ya got new shocks
@hansmonitio7462
@hansmonitio7462 11 ай бұрын
I have a 1200 GSA and my rear shock made the same clicking noise. My local no brand motorshop had it rebuild at about 500 euro’s and installed. I never brought my bike to a BMW dealer, always to the local motorshop. Much cheaper just as good or even beter. Stick to the guys in Kells, I should say. Why should you upgrade a perfectly good working machine like your GS ?
@mikeberry2736
@mikeberry2736 11 ай бұрын
Yep, BMW parts are silly money. My rear shock was leaking on my 2011 GS, at 47,000 miles, so fair enough, it’s had a hammering. But BMW wanted 2k for a new one. Firefox Racing, Keighley, West Yorkshire, did a rebuild for £400. Also, BMW Motorworks, Huddersfield, new and used parts, also good. I wouldn’t buy electronic suspension again. My last 2006, 1200GS was manual adjustment, did 80K on that bike, absolutely no issues at all. To much electronics on bike nowadays.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Yes agree. This has definitely made me rethink.
@chrisdagnall8666
@chrisdagnall8666 11 ай бұрын
Really sorry to hear about the poor customer service but unfortunately it's all too common. You are best funding a good independent just like it seems you have. Will be interested to see if you go the Africa Twin route.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Yes the first bunch of reviews should be out soon from the launch last week. 😍
@kenoshea2303
@kenoshea2303 11 ай бұрын
The ESA suspension is a primitive design and seems to be prone to failure (most people dont notice!) The 13 gs 1200 suffers from engine paint peeling failed rear shock an overly light flywheel and rear shaft/bearing failures.. uk companies offer exchange service for shocks approx 300 per unit good deal. Buy an africa twin tenere 1200 or multistrada with 4 year warranty!
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Good to know Ken and yes that new Africa Twin is firmly within my sights. 😜
@peterwebb233
@peterwebb233 11 ай бұрын
Hi Dave not a good advert for BMW , poor show on them . I own a 2017 R1200 GSA triple black I was thinking upgrading to A 1250 GSA , my view is the same as yours is it worth probably not & I’m not sold on gs1300 looks & the price either regards Peter
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Hi Peter, since this all happened I test rode the new 1300. That certainly put a spanner in the works. Vid next weekend.🥴
@JoeS97756
@JoeS97756 11 ай бұрын
Trade it for a 1300. ah, good ending, wrote that before I heard the result. I have a '13 1200 so I may be in for that at some point. How many miles on your bike?
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Only 34KM (26K miles)
@ticthedog6095
@ticthedog6095 11 ай бұрын
I’m no fan of BMW dealerships, cars or bikes, but I will come to their defence. Part of their BMW contract will be they can only fit approved BMW parts, so them sending your shocks to a non approved company to be repaired could jeopardise their BMW franchise. Have you tried the 1050 V Strom, it’s 1/2 the price of a new GS1300
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Yeah fair comment. I don’t like the look of those V-Stroms though despite having a good rep.
@nikoscosmos
@nikoscosmos 11 ай бұрын
And yet people are flocking to the R1300GS....already catching fire due to faulty starter relays😮
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Wow, that’s the first I’ve heard.
@davebridge5775
@davebridge5775 11 ай бұрын
I just don't get why people use main dealers. If it's warranty dependent, fair enough but if you have found an independent garage that have looked after you in the past, I wouldn't go anywhere else.
@mikerider58
@mikerider58 11 ай бұрын
Dick Turpin wore a Mask. Dealerships car or motorcycle rank No 2 on my list of Gangsters. Yes, politicians are No 1 Great story as usual Dave, thanks for the heads up.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
Love it! 🤣👌
@jimmyrottencauli
@jimmyrottencauli 11 ай бұрын
Those shocks have a limited life span and wear out. They are only guaranteed even under warranty for approx. 20k miles, that being the case why the hell don't BMW design a cost effective maintance/replacement solution because the amount of bad publicity they get over this is huge.
@paulsire
@paulsire 11 ай бұрын
Why? $$$$$$$$
@parf2665
@parf2665 11 ай бұрын
Cant get my head around people buying premium European bikes, when Japanese bikes are so much better reliability wise.
@WheelieGoodTV
@WheelieGoodTV 11 ай бұрын
It starts with looks for me. 😍
@avz7001
@avz7001 11 ай бұрын
The BMW 1200 and 1250 are all known to blow their rear ESA shock. Search KZbin and you'll find numerous videos of owners complaining....BMW cost of ownership. 😊
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