My first premium tank. I farmed credits with it and blew away the credits shooting gold in the pre nerf type 5 heavy derp gun. Great memories.
@DA-cl4ww Жыл бұрын
I run mine with a full mobility setup and play as a medium hunter. It feels kind of like a perishing but with almost a T32 turret and with 230 pen.
@snakeplissken1754 Жыл бұрын
Honestly some of the changes addressed issues the tank had. In world of powercreep the issue became obvious that 240 alpha isn´t that great, but what sort of made it an issue is when you combine low alpha with a rather bad/mediocre gun handling. If you have low alpha at least you need to have a gun that is snappy to compensate. You cannot afford to sit in the open for half an eternity to fully aim and then take 400 to the face as newer tanks with more alpha have a better gun handling then you have. The speed boost is also welcome as this make this tank no more flexible to play on the medium lane if you want to. As the tank has rather bad ground resistance that had you struggle to reach top speed on medium terrain. Which would have been something they should have fixed on top, as on medium terrain it´s still as slow as it used to be. Pen was alright but now the gun is snappier and the tank is more mobile. Perfectly fine changes. Same as what they did to the amx liberte, 300 alpha and an god awful gun handling just didn´t work on a compitive level. Now the gun is on point with the lowish alpha. Caernavon ax would need a similar fix. +4-5 kp/h top speed, + 2-3 kp/h reverse. Aimtime decrease and dispersion value adusted by -2-3 on traverse/rotation/gun rotation, and better tank rotation speed. Right now 230 alpha and 2.21 aimtime (stock) is just not good.
@guiltlessraptor777 Жыл бұрын
1:17 Super Hellcat got deleted by BZ. 😂XD
@Kristiyan-Angelov Жыл бұрын
Nah super hellcat was ,,balanced''
@Patzolino Жыл бұрын
8:26 - This is something I am screaming for for years! +-1 is absolutely enough. Thanks for sharing this opinion with us 🙂
@imb0red666 Жыл бұрын
An interesting matchmaking idea i had was they should use tank ratings to find really strong tanks and instead of nerfing them, make them have the disadvantage of +2 matchmaking and at best only matchmaking with the tier they are at. While the other tanks will have +/-1 matchmaking.
@fooanonymous Жыл бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly, as a strictly f2p player. Not going to happen though, since it would lower the relative value of power creeped p2w premiums.
@bassegoder Жыл бұрын
When super Pershing plays as a heavy and Patriots as a medium...
@Kanalcommander Жыл бұрын
Iron Arnie, Renegade, T32-M, Skoda 56 and BZ176 happened.
@bassegoder Жыл бұрын
For 2k damage you need 8 shots, Skoda needs 2 reloads. Bz similar 250 man.... Give it liberté or iron Arnie or lower alpha, or at least Carnarvon dpm....
@panthermorgen Жыл бұрын
Hi, skill. I'm a Asia server player and I truly enjoy the +/-1 mm which appear most of the time and make the game experience way more batter.
@Helifixr Жыл бұрын
Oyster bay is such a wierd map. They made it extra large yet 1/4 of it is water, and the whole middle is basically unplayable until the end. So its just extra time driving with no benefit comapred to a smaller map.
@ryokajimosensei2780 Жыл бұрын
I just want it to have 250 dmg Seeing a 190 roll against a Skoda or a BZ makes my heart sink in shame.
@jariheimoluoto4959 Жыл бұрын
The original overpovered tier 8 heavy. The reason why patriot is not so good is because the other premium heavys got more armor and biger guns. While trading shots the other heavys will slap you for 400, 460 or even for 800. Sometimes autoloading 900/1000 damage burst. Thats why rene is now the dpm heavytanks to play with. It has 360 alpha so it can trade shots and it has the dpm and it has some armor too.
@Mthammere20106 ай бұрын
The problem with this tank is that it has really poor side and engine deck armor and a turret that can be folded by certain t8s from the front. It would be nice if WG blanket buffed t8 American 90mm guns.
@kebabsaurusrex1601 Жыл бұрын
+2/-2 is stomp or be stomped. For me it's the biggest problem with the game
@Kristiyan-Angelov Жыл бұрын
Maybe the game will get way more balanced? I am not sure but there have to be Win ratio MM then and only then we will have true equal games.
@madart647611 ай бұрын
The real problem with this game is not +2/-2 matches. You can’t always be the top dog in the fields, and it wouldn’t add fun, variety and satisfaction to bullying higher tier tanks.
@skan8494 Жыл бұрын
It was my first premium tank, i am very glad to see it buffed. The thing with this tank is either you get very good result in battles or the opposite due to its alpha, but on the other side it's a very good credit maker, actually i am going as far to say that it's the best premium you can get in the bond store among the tier 8s talking about quality/price ratio, why ? Some of you will say Lorrain is better, and i don't deny that, but the fact that lorrain requires so much more skills to play with is down-grading a bit due to it being an autoloader, patriot is more likely to cover a larger audience of players when we talk about gameplay, and and other tanks in the same classe (heavy) like IS-6, IS-5 or Alpine Tiger are far more boring and worse than patriot, maybe liberté now is better but i never played it so i can't really talk about it But yeah, that's my opinion, the Patriot is not that banger/meta of a tank considering there is BZ, Skoda and other tanks which are more meta, but this tank has owned a certain place in my heart
@adamadamowski8585 Жыл бұрын
T-103, Guard and Liberte are better choices from bond store.
@Kristiyan-Angelov Жыл бұрын
T832 Skoda and BZ are the best tier 8s Im happy I have T832 but I want Skoda as well😊 (To play both when I die with on of them)
@rudolfff Жыл бұрын
One of my most played tanks in the game, but haven’t touched it for quite a long time. Really excited to play with it again after this buff.
@snakeplissken1754 Жыл бұрын
Another thing i find extremely weird from wg side, they buff the pershing, which don´t get me wrong was overdue, but the m46 korea patton (that suffers the same issues) has been left unchanged. Make this make sense. Heck even the t25 pilot got some minor buff.
@Mthammere20106 ай бұрын
T-25 pilot got major pen buffs on a short barrel prototype gun.
@Arkticus Жыл бұрын
For my part, the Patriot had decent if mediocre mobility (I mean, it's a Heavyum), a good turret, good base penetration... and that's about it. The gun felt painfully slow to reload (which is weird, I know), it was never accurate for me (though I don't run mine with Cola, which might have some effect), and the 240, despite the low cost of the ammo, just wasn't punchy enough for a Heavy. I'll have to revisit it (recently re-installed the game after about a year's break...we'll see how long I'll last this time around...) now that it's gotten a bit better, but I think I'll still stick to the Renegade and the good ol' boy T34 for the most part, if I feel like riding in a 'Murican Heavy Premium.
@Xenotork Жыл бұрын
the Patriot is a tank you need to play aggressivly in to be successful. It does have a strong turret and troll cupola, but if you can't properly aim your shots to widdle down the enemy in front of you, you'll be there for quite a while. The changes allow this tank to fullfil that role quite well, especially the gun handling and accuracy buffs. If you poke corners with your front hull at a sharp enough angle, you get 315-350mm of effective armor. You can sidescrape, but you do have a pennable area, similar to the lowe. However, this tank can work if you throw yourself out there, even against tier 10s, just be sure to play hull down against them or sidescrape, poking with your front is not a great idea.
@Mthammere20106 ай бұрын
@user-zz5ep3cf5rhe's not talking to Skilzzs but to the general players watching this video; he does have a point.
@torstein_8494 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think they need to up the damage to at least 300. other then that I love the tank
@mole3171 Жыл бұрын
yep I'm with you Skill, plus 1 minus 1 would be fairer
@ottrakkaselg8033 Жыл бұрын
sure, but let lights have +-2.
@envy4661 Жыл бұрын
Exactly the same feeling as you do. The buffs were needed, but I feel there are better tanks like caernarvon from techtree which is better in any way (agility apart). Patriot gun still feels unraliable, small alpha dmg and the fast shell velocity (weirdly) isn’t that fast. But the money you can make with it is outstanding.
@kubamalinowski4195 Жыл бұрын
~1000 is not fast, thats what i would call playable velocity, 1100+ feels nice and above is a hitscan basically
@leonschroeder4771 Жыл бұрын
The patriot change is right on the sweet spot I think it keeps it's unique low alpha but gets better around stats way better than over buffing a prem like the turtle or leaving it to die for good like the CDC 😂
@brolysupersaiyan1634 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of CDC it's strange they didn't buffed it. I think this tanks only needs a slight mobility buff and gun handling to make it playable
@Kristiyan-Angelov Жыл бұрын
Turtle is not very good...
@SanguineMalcontent Жыл бұрын
@@brolysupersaiyan1634 Not even mobility. Gun handling and maybe a bit of alpha boost. Would be nice if they buffed the ammo rack health too....
@Alphascrub_77 Жыл бұрын
The best part about the changes is that this tank is better at higher tiers when played in more of a support or pseudo medium capacity. You can go to the medium flank/none heavy flank in a t10 match and work ridges or support areas bit easier with the increased stats. Your increased speed and gun stats don't make you a medium but with a good crew you can kind of fill that support sniper role if you are can flank or spams some gold/target low armor targets. Yes the shiters will be mad about you being "SNIPA HEAVY" they are shiters flush their chat down the toilet and go next with a decent 2-4k damage tier 10 game under your belt.
@Skullmember Жыл бұрын
I don't think that it's only you that wants +-1 MM. I think almost everyone wants it. Even as top tier I hate seeing 2 lower
@edoardoborsaro6334 Жыл бұрын
Tank is better now, but somehow I fell like armor is way weaker than it used to be. Powercreep I guess
@ogmechsftw Жыл бұрын
now this tank looks deadly vs lower tiers. bisonte gun handling buff next pls~
@adioperta1451 Жыл бұрын
Problet with Patriot are terrain resistances. WG did buffed the top speed to 45 but because of awful soft stats can't even reach 40 km/h. Turbo is realy not helping the mobility exept reverse speed and grousers will only improve that a tuch. And also for a 90mm gun WG should also buff the dispersion on turret traverse. 0.13 is mediocre for 320 alpha gun or they could give it more DPM
@vanillaice4959 Жыл бұрын
Yesterday I was so happy that I managed to craft 4500 dmg with this tank, thank you skill for making my performance look average in a way 😂
@jonnybones-j8p Жыл бұрын
Patriot was my favorite tier 8 back in the days, now it's performing better and I can enjoy it again...
@kubamalinowski4195 Жыл бұрын
I dont mind +2-2 mm at all, slaughtering lower tiers is fun, when meeting higher tier opponents i will simply adapt with my gameplay, like just play safer or spot if ur a lower tier?? the game gives you tools, just use your brain, load gold, play differently, its not hard at all and -2 is coming in the next couple games
@noobproudly9435 Жыл бұрын
It’s not hard at all!! unless you are a semi slow heavy tank with meh pen or meh alpha like T26E5 Or a medium tank suffering from low gold pen and meh view range See it’s not that hard!!!! Maybe for you cuz there are many players suffering
@kubamalinowski4195 Жыл бұрын
turns out people like to whine about +2 but dont appreciate -2. the example you came up with - take the patriot to the med line then, perhaps in your tier X mm you will be facing 1 IX tier med and 3 VIII tier meds? or ban the map that doesnt work with it, theres plenty of tools and ways out@@noobproudly9435
@agnisstapkevics2948 Жыл бұрын
I got this tank as rental fir 10 days long time ago. It turned to me with 25% winrate after about 15 battles a I was so upset... Now I got this tank for bonds to check it again...
@gavinprime8154 Жыл бұрын
This was my first tier eight premium! I love the speeeeed boost 😂 although I can’t seem to get to full speed even with a turbo. How can I fix that?
@jannekoskinen2050 Жыл бұрын
Grousers will help more than turbo because of bad terrain resistance values and also help maintaining speed. With grousers on mobility slot, left on first field mod for maintaining speed, BiA and Offroad driving you can get 42,2km/h speed on medium terrain.
@adamadamowski8585 Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem of Patriot is that T32 is in everything better. T32 has better DPM, gun-handling, 80 more alpha and on top of that even better turret armour and it's even faster (on med terrain). 2,1k base DPM on 240alpha tank is quite laughable, they should gave Patriot 2,3k base DPM and it will be quite average. Now it's for me below average, worse than most of tech-tree 8 Tier heavys. AMX M4 49 is now definitely better (and quite a unique tank).
@IAmJadedJM Жыл бұрын
My credit grinder got a sweet buff! I neither like nor hate it in pre-buff state, but it was really playable enough. Thanks to these buffs, I can now run turbo+hardening combo to it! Cheap-ammo tank lezzgooo! Oh, and there are leaks that bond shop will be changed again this year, so if you want a tier 8 prem, wait for the changes first. Patriot is also a good choice, but there is a chance they'll release better tanks.
@theghost4282 Жыл бұрын
Was my fist prem tank ever. Most battle of any tank and I’m so happy it got buffed. Old but gold. Thanks!
@TSDHGUHL Жыл бұрын
Skill! Try it with a turbo! Acts like a medium!
@jbassguy571 Жыл бұрын
This video reminded me of what frustrated me about wot: maps that were designed to have crossfires everywhere and you get shot from every direction and all you can do is sit and wait to die.
@0ia Жыл бұрын
From one point of view this is true. For me it is not - all i can do is play chess and outsmart enemies, or die trying ;)
@geerliglecluse5297 Жыл бұрын
On the Asia server only tier 8 has minus 2 matchmaking. No tier 7 fighting tier 9, 6 against 8, etc. To be fair the Asia server does have some other draw back, but match making is definitely better compared to EU.
@glowsinthedark235 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen Mr iyouxin say some very good things about this tank, almost considering buying mr patriot when I get the bonds.
@BraaapoholicBob Жыл бұрын
You might do better in T-832 but NOT make nearly the amount of credits I assume.
@Boychev87 Жыл бұрын
The Darts Tank.. we found a new name for this box ;)
@slimslamfl Жыл бұрын
+1/-1 Matchmaking would be the best improvement to the current game. Its much needed.
@dptp9lf11 ай бұрын
They said they buffed this tank so i bought it. I now have 20 games on it and won 1 game. I can't do shit with it despite the fact that it was top tier in almost every one of those 20 games... WTF??? I'm no unicom but WOW... It's fucking horrendous....WTF
@gopnik26498 ай бұрын
Which would you suggest me to buy ? The T26E4 or the T24E5 ?
@Ubernewb111 Жыл бұрын
It's a super persh with an eating disorder. It was my second prem tank so I'm glad it got a bit of love.
@sargefan19 Жыл бұрын
To me the Patriot just always felt underwhelming and that thing you look at as "why waste money". In almost everything the t-32 does it better besides top speed and penetration. As for DPM again the T-32 takes the cake with while not being by much having a higher dpm with the Patriot needing an extra shot in order to equal the damage but with actually a faster aim time and pre buff the same dispersion. As for armor I still have to say the T-32 has a loads better turret with it being able to bounce higher tier gold rounds. I may have to check it back out
@fatahilahs3606 Жыл бұрын
So.. is this still the best credit maker in game for f2p?
@izroda91 Жыл бұрын
i have same opinion for MM . it has to be +/- 1
@Zero_dice Жыл бұрын
Is this the same like super Pershing? Or am i wrong?
@richman2601 Жыл бұрын
TDs should be capped like arty. Thpugh MT-15 would need to get tweaked then
@kacperkisy10 Жыл бұрын
I gotb2 marks some time ago and now when i trying to drop some percent and doing 3k+ i dropping wtf
@Eshelion Жыл бұрын
I think you gradually stopped loving patriot because of the meta alfa shift over time (to 300-320 now - same reason why I like progetto less than earlier) combined with faster games = less influence and possibilities. This tank needed a buff (not gonna argue if in all those departments or the values), got a great one, not making it excellent, broken or even close to borat, skoda t56 of bz, but actually enjoyable. All increased stats are basically tweaks to make it look more like new tier 8 hts - they are usually faster and can aim faster with smaller dispersion than prebuffed patriot could.
@Nicodareus Жыл бұрын
Patriot, Skorpion and Type 59 were my goto premiums for credit making ... and JT 8.8 was fun until i became better at the game lol.
@fullbrothers6070 Жыл бұрын
whem is the ram II vs m4-85 vid gonna come out?
@nevr9199 Жыл бұрын
I bought it thinking it had the same turret as of T32. I was proven so wrong by a T57 in gold ammo
@davidladdie1025 Жыл бұрын
Mine is unplayable since the buff ,massive lag
@Henkele Жыл бұрын
skillll can you please do a new video with amx 30 tier 9 ?
@Mr.deBest Жыл бұрын
1:56 illegal mod or not? Löwe insta repaired his track he can never be this fast with his reaction right?
@williamcooper126 Жыл бұрын
Why would people think the Patriot is weak it is t like we have tier 8s with 800 alpha and a tier 10 turret and rockets or anything
@heyoka1994 Жыл бұрын
Alpha dmg is fine on this one, since it has good dpm.
@MKN202411 ай бұрын
One crazy tank overall
@werylaca Жыл бұрын
Mr. Skill4ltu how do you get a "baboon" sticker?
@viewicy Жыл бұрын
Skill, no super conquer in index page
@ottrakkaselg8033 Жыл бұрын
i think you where in some sort of strange mood today:) you will change the rating of this tank at some point and upwards;)
@JeremySVK Жыл бұрын
I did not have the tank before bc i know it is .... But after buffed i bought it and it is awesome. Cheap ammo, great gun,...what do we need more?
@Kristiyan-Angelov Жыл бұрын
Better armor against tier 10s
@npc4324 Жыл бұрын
I would go that far, that WG should not only get rid of +2 matchmaking, but also get rid of arty.
@matkozak6564 Жыл бұрын
I think that alpha damage is simply too low. In my opinion heavy tanks should have atleast 320 dmg per shot. Even few of the mediums tanks from the same tier are more usefull in the mordor coz of the dmg and better armor turret.
@RogFrog397 Жыл бұрын
Still thinking it have too low alpha just like AX. Sometimes you would have games when u can simply use dpm, but i think nowadays games are like 15:0 simulation and most of the games you will be able to make like 5 shots no more.
@TheGrandexeno Жыл бұрын
Nah, if I can make a Tiger I do 2.5k dmg (and pretty much always playing it like a medium), this tank can do its job for sure
@RogFrog397 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGrandexeno Yes, but tiger I have like 280 dmg, It"s big difference.
@TheGrandexeno Жыл бұрын
@@RogFrog397 tiger has zero armor, this can go hull down and farm
@sigmamalegrindset132 Жыл бұрын
I hope Turtle 1 soon, I predict it going from 2/5 stars to 5/5, its literally better than ts5
@Roman.Patt- Жыл бұрын
how many dollars give them
@abcdabcdefgefg201 Жыл бұрын
wz 120 1g ft needs to buffed also
@Zorbino88 Жыл бұрын
Recently I achieved my highest spotting and highest damage blocked in this tank. Absolute bonkers 😂
@oldguyplayin5828 Жыл бұрын
skill, you magnificent baboon! unless you are top tier, play this like a medium and you will be gucci. love you man!
@ILikeTuwtles Жыл бұрын
Weird, I always thought this tank was overpowered...
@rndmusr1823 Жыл бұрын
+2mm is the main problem in this game since 2012
@gunter4476 Жыл бұрын
15:00 lt highest dmg 😳
@gunter4476 Жыл бұрын
Imo for manticore this dmg outcome is nuts it has only 20 ammo capacity
@nephalos666 Жыл бұрын
Tried it for a session after the buff. It's still absolute trash in today's meta. The pen still isnt enough. The alpha is pathetically low for a heavy when you face off against Renegades, Skoda T 56s, and BZ-176s. Even TECH TREE tier 8s have bigger alpha than this thing. The armor is also mediocre as most everyone loads gold nowadays, meaning your turret is swiss cheesed really quickly. In the next trade event, I'm planning on pawning mine off for something else at tier 8.
@ole993 Жыл бұрын
"T34 still waiting for a buff"
@davediaz6748 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you Skill, +/-2 MM is one of the most frustrating things in the game. I think making it +/-1 would be fantastic the problem is, what would happen to all the Pref MM tanks?
@oktawianc7456 Жыл бұрын
+/- 1 MM is needed only for HT in my opinion. I feel good when i play LT, MT, TD -2 mm. No problem. But when i play HT, and see +2 HT... O my bananas...
@kubamalinowski4195 Жыл бұрын
so you suffer when you meet +2hts but wheres the fun from meeting -2hts? not there? i get your point, it also depends on the tank, is it really painful to play in t29 or t32 on +2? i dont mind @@oktawianc7456
@07ARKAN10 Жыл бұрын
Skill4CAMP...like always :)))
@Wojtekpl2 Жыл бұрын
Please play with T69 .
@xmidasii4456 Жыл бұрын
cent 5/1 next time??
@johnascroft8738 Жыл бұрын
First game, the Lowe and the T29 sit up nice and high exposing their lower plates and sides. In my games on that corner, they are always hulldown and impenetrable. Paid actors? WG father?
@Roland_Deschains Жыл бұрын
Tak Skillll tak.
@alexzecha5950 Жыл бұрын
skill I think they buffed Wz-111G FT tier 9 also without let us know by reading the article. Shell velocity was buffed from 760 to 920 or something, dispersion from 0.38 to 0.36 and so on. You can check new stats directly in the game. Will you test it and make video about? I would really like a video about buffed WZ-111G tier 9. I dont know why they didnt added to buffed tanks list on their site. You are the best! 🙂
@warp103 Жыл бұрын
lol Normal if the section is weak he does a 4th game. This time it like Nope my mind is set nothing changed move on. So sad. Some love alpha, some love quick fire. This is a above avg tank now but it will not get a real shake. So sad. it one of the best credit makers were you do not have to shot gold and still do will in higher tiers.
@niewiemcotuwpisac666 Жыл бұрын
Even after the buff I still hate this tank with all my fuckin heart.
@Swellington_ Жыл бұрын
who doesnt like this tank? Its a classic and excellent credit maker
@guldukat1354 Жыл бұрын
+2 MM forces people to spend more gold, spend more free xp use boosters etc to skip some of the worst experience in the game you can have, playing with stock t5/6/7 tanks in +2 mm. in the end it makes WG more money, since free to play you can only get to like t6
@vaclavmojzisek5558 Жыл бұрын
nice !
@wshodge4449 Жыл бұрын
Went on there this morning, LOSS LOSS LOSS> fixed matchmaker ruins this game. Nothing more UNFUN than playing a game the INTENTIONALLY creates imbalanced teams. Ill never understand it. Someone being rewarded getting be on the stacked of winners. EVERY day I lose more games than I win. Ever since I quit sending in the money.
@zoltantoth1566 Жыл бұрын
Patriot needs hills, your luck just did not give that to you.
@kibo_nbgd Жыл бұрын
It's good to have this tank now days. It's free, in bond store only 8k and make credits. . . It's OK ! BTW 9:59 hahahahahhahahahahhahahaaaaa XD 🤣🤣😂😂
@joe125ful Жыл бұрын
Patriot suck with same or higher tanks like my Super Pershing do.
@Liberty73_NA Жыл бұрын
I like +2 MM. It is a challenge.
@tobyrock7194 Жыл бұрын
People used to call this OP this was only on on paper. The gun is worthless complete trash with trash alpha. The buff didn't look like it did anything but make it faster.. needed a big gun buff didn't get it
@estesoyyo1802 Жыл бұрын
Customer vip,mm vip marketing free
@paubaguer3094 Жыл бұрын
first
@MrLeron22 Жыл бұрын
very hard game.... lol... VIII vs X tier this tank 0