My Classic Album: Steven Wilson on Kate Bush 'The Dreaming'

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ClassicAlbumSundays

ClassicAlbumSundays

3 жыл бұрын

Steven Wilson joins Classic Album Sundays' Colleen 'Cosmo' Murphy to discuss Kate Bush 'The Dreaming' as part of our 'My Classic Album' series. Steven is a singer, songwriter and record producer who founded the band Porcupine Tree. Nominated for four Grammy's, Steven has also created 5.1 surround sound remixes for artists such as Black Sabbath, Tears For Fears, Roxy Music, Marillion, Tangerine Dream, Ultravox, Jethro Tull and many more.
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@mikatile
@mikatile 2 жыл бұрын
Night of the Swallow is possibly my favourite song of all time. In an album of utter genius, where every song is masterful, it soars.
@judithweiss6727
@judithweiss6727 Жыл бұрын
it's in my top five.
@mondexbop
@mondexbop 3 жыл бұрын
People always cite "Hounds of Love" as being her best.I think it's "The Dreaming".It's the bravest album a female songwriter has ever produced-literally! This album keeps on giving the more you listen to it.She calls it her aggressive "city" album;it reflects her response to her critics,the industry,the Falklands War,etc....If she wanted her music to "intrude"....well...it certainly had.I believe it's her pointed response to being a sex symbol.pop star,industry commodity,etc.....Love the album and the experimentation.
@lingux_yt
@lingux_yt Жыл бұрын
YES
@edwardmorris3453
@edwardmorris3453 5 ай бұрын
The Dreaming is unquestionably the superior of the two! Aside from the singles, I can't even remember any of the songs on Hounds. I thought it was boring, monotonous, uninspired, phoned-in. I'm the odd one out, I guess.
@markjohnson4217
@markjohnson4217 3 жыл бұрын
I find it strange that people regard The Dreaming as an album that is steeped in synth pop. Almost every song with maybe two exceptions has piano, bass and drums as it'foundation. The fairlight is used as a distinct instrument, but the overall quality of the album is still very organic to me. The choices were intentionally extreme which always suits the themes very well. As for the 'strangness' of it, I am never comfortable with that term in creative criticism, because art IS strange, music IS strange, poetry IS strange, and all real pioneers ought to be foraging into strange, new realms. So The Dreaming is actually what recorded music OUGHT to be doing.
@CARambolagen
@CARambolagen 3 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@Missjunebugfreak
@Missjunebugfreak 3 жыл бұрын
The Dreaming for me is Kate's unorthodox masterpiece. Steven is right in saying this album is the one where she explores every aspect of her voice in a way that she never did again.
@youngbloodk
@youngbloodk 3 жыл бұрын
As a complete album, I think The Dreaming is probably her best album. It is like her Revolver, as good as the next album, but overshadowed by its hype.
@HandyAndyTechTips
@HandyAndyTechTips 3 жыл бұрын
If any other artist had released a song like "Wuthering Heights", it would have been the pinnacle of their career. But for Kate, it was only just the start - literally! Her artistic progression from '78 - '82 was nothing short of breathtaking.
@jeffjedifitz
@jeffjedifitz 3 жыл бұрын
The Dreaming for me is her best work💜
@colincharters5701
@colincharters5701 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite album of all time an absolute MASTERPIECE
@nononame113
@nononame113 3 жыл бұрын
The word 'genius' is thrown around too often, but Kate Bush objectively fits the criteria. Mostly self-taught as a young musician; writing outstanding work at a very young age [e.g. Man with the Child in His Eyes]; writing hugely successful work at a very young age; among the first, if not the first, female singer also to write a number 1 hit [in her teens]; taking over production when very few female artists did; extremely original and a unique sound etc. Even if you don't like her work, she meets the criteria of genius. I doubt she'd like that label though!
@ClassicAlbumSundays
@ClassicAlbumSundays 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree.
@froogsleegs
@froogsleegs 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently Bjork says that Kate Bush is one of her biggest influences. I would say she fits most of that criteria too!
@JWilks-lk7th
@JWilks-lk7th 2 жыл бұрын
Eivor gives me the Kate vibes now plus some...
@stevenhearnden6103
@stevenhearnden6103 2 жыл бұрын
So does Steven Wilson
@soupdragon151
@soupdragon151 2 жыл бұрын
She wouldn't like the label at all infact she'd probably laugh and don't be so ridiculous she's so disarmingly self deprecating with a total absence of egotricity
@thomasovens478
@thomasovens478 3 жыл бұрын
As a massive fan of Kate, "The Dreaming" is the masterpiece for me. "Leave it Open" and "Get out of my House" are the standouts.
@guitargirl7452
@guitargirl7452 3 жыл бұрын
It's definitely up there as one of her best. I am obsessed by her music. So much to admire and discover. She's one of a kind for sure. But the waiting between albums is so hard.....
@Missjunebugfreak
@Missjunebugfreak 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Even though I think 'Hounds Of Love' is flawless, something about 'The Dreaming' is more compelling to me. It's just bizarre, experimental and creative in a way few albums can manage to do. Kate is a genius.
@jankafka7330
@jankafka7330 3 жыл бұрын
Each track on the album is better than every other track.
@SuperTank121212
@SuperTank121212 3 жыл бұрын
Weee let the weirdness innn..! ;-)
@colincharters5701
@colincharters5701 2 жыл бұрын
I agree but a think The Ninthwave may be her greatest work but as an album a think a just prefer The Dreaming that might be because The Big Sky is on HOL if that was replaced by Under The Ivy then it would be a tie for me 2 Masterpieces
@adampoll4977
@adampoll4977 3 жыл бұрын
Most artists: "How do I make my voice sound good?" Kate Bush: "What can I do with this crazy-cool instrument I was born with?" Her lack of concern for current musical "trends" is why Aerial is my most listened to album of all time - it's ageless, timeless, and immortal, and a joy every time.
@browny44
@browny44 3 жыл бұрын
i feel the same,it's taken years but Aerial is now my favourite Kate album
@ukrocksounds3419
@ukrocksounds3419 3 жыл бұрын
For me Hounds of Love is her masterpiece, The ninth wave her concept piece is amazing.
@phattebytch
@phattebytch 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. A truly extraordinary album, knocks my head in all directions every time I hear it. Pull Out The Pin is a ridiculously underrated track.
@sergecuerrier8775
@sergecuerrier8775 3 жыл бұрын
Without "The dreaming" There is no "Hounds of love"
@ZoolGatekeeper
@ZoolGatekeeper 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, i always thought that too.. Tbh, I never liked 'The Dreaming' at first, but after Hounds of Love, I kind of realised what Kate was thinking.. And Kate Bush is formost a thinking or a contemplative artist..
@lamecasuelas2
@lamecasuelas2 3 жыл бұрын
Woah!
@TheGreatConstantini
@TheGreatConstantini 2 жыл бұрын
It certainly was the primer. Although it’s hard to not see Hounds as a pinnacle.
@soupdragon151
@soupdragon151 2 жыл бұрын
"Watching you Without Me", "Mother Stands for Comfort" and maybe "Waking the Witch" could all have come out of TD they're maybe tighter and more streamlined but they're clearly its children
@kenhoyme3673
@kenhoyme3673 3 жыл бұрын
The Dreaming is my favorite Kate Bush album - so creative and out there - 'We let the weirdness in"
@jeffjedifitz
@jeffjedifitz 3 жыл бұрын
Sat in you Lap was my first Kate Bush 7” as a 13 year old..... incredible song 💜
@NIGHTFRIGHT2011
@NIGHTFRIGHT2011 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear an interviewer who really knows their subject and more importantly allows the interviewee to talk at length without constant interruptions. I love this album and the videos that were made for at least 4 of the tracks. I just wish Kate would release a DVD compilation of ALL of her videos!
@carlkellner1310
@carlkellner1310 3 жыл бұрын
"Suspended in Gaffa" and "Houdini" are also worth talking about - moving and magical! "Get out of my House" was inspired by Kubrick's "The Shining", if I remember correctly. So scary, certainly!
@fishdrew1111
@fishdrew1111 3 жыл бұрын
I used to always assume that "Get Out of My House" was a metaphor song for rape. It still works on that level, and is still as scary/powerful.
@judithweiss6727
@judithweiss6727 Жыл бұрын
@@fishdrew1111 it works on a lot of levels....
@1nelsondj
@1nelsondj 3 жыл бұрын
I love the album, it's transitional, her most experimental. My favorite track which wasn't even touched on here is 'Night of the Swallow'. There's an anxiousness that pulls me in, some emotional singing too.
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Night of the swallow is my favourite. I played it to the youngsters I work with and the look on their face was priceless.
@judithweiss6727
@judithweiss6727 Жыл бұрын
one of mine too.
@PocketSunlight
@PocketSunlight 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite Kate Bush album. As a composer, myself, I dig the experimentalism
@benchampion3768
@benchampion3768 3 жыл бұрын
The first use of Fairlight CMI was on Never for Ever
@carlkellner1310
@carlkellner1310 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see this masterpiece receiving the appreciation it deserves. When I first heard it around 14 years ago, I couldn't believe how experimental and weird and beautiful the music was - and that it was an album from 1982! So unique and - to use a cliché - ahead of its (and, for that matter, our) time.
@Missjunebugfreak
@Missjunebugfreak 3 жыл бұрын
I've often thought The Dreaming is on par with Hounds Of Love. It's just that former is the unorthodox bizarre creation that sometimes gets overshadowed by the masterful art-pop successor. Glad to see more people are giving this album the attention it deserves.
@carlkellner1310
@carlkellner1310 3 жыл бұрын
@@Missjunebugfreak Yes.I totally agree, both albums are amazing, I couldn't say which one I prefer. They are very different form each other, yet the same level of genius imo.
@judithweiss6727
@judithweiss6727 Жыл бұрын
@@Missjunebugfreak I like it better.
@MauriceHotblack
@MauriceHotblack 3 жыл бұрын
I remember lots of people hating the album when it came out. I loved it. It was so fresh and adventurous. Over time I feel I have been vindicated.
@midwestconcertvideo
@midwestconcertvideo 3 жыл бұрын
According to Kate biographer Graeme Thompson, EMI came very close to not releasing it at all. By the way, his book Under the Ivy, is the only book about Kate Bush you need to read.
@TheErikj
@TheErikj 3 жыл бұрын
One thing they got wrong - Kate actually used the Fairlight CMI quite a bit on her previous album, Never Forever. Peter Gabriel introduced her to it.
@bjorkissimo
@bjorkissimo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Peter Gabriel for opening the doors
@foreignparticle1320
@foreignparticle1320 9 ай бұрын
Just what I was thinking.
@edwardmorris3453
@edwardmorris3453 5 ай бұрын
Yep. I heard that comment too. The Fairlight was all over that album. I think Never Forever was really her transitional record. From Dreaming on the sound never changed. Never Forever was an odd one. Of her four good albums, it's the patchiest. A definite step away from the chamber pop sound of her first two, but lacking the consistency of all the following albums.
@jonathangray6825
@jonathangray6825 3 жыл бұрын
Percy Thrower was the gardening chap and Percy Edwards was the bird impersonator.
@mikeclarke6796
@mikeclarke6796 3 жыл бұрын
Ah Blue Peter!
@paul10018
@paul10018 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, and let's all agree to skip over Rolf Harris who came in later.
@narasimha7187
@narasimha7187 3 жыл бұрын
Deep Esoteric knowledge here!
@spiral2012
@spiral2012 3 жыл бұрын
SW introduced me to Kate Bush, been obsessed ever since.
@stephenreed2093
@stephenreed2093 4 ай бұрын
This is my favourite Kate Bush album. A focus on percussion and unusual rhythms is right up my street.
@laurentos1967
@laurentos1967 3 жыл бұрын
Kate Bush... Steven Wilson... We are on Mount Olympus ... observing two gods...
@heathcliff1096
@heathcliff1096 3 жыл бұрын
The first time she used the Fairlight was on Never for Ever and not The Dreaming. The breaking glass sound on Babooshka is a Fairlight use for instance.
@midwestconcertvideo
@midwestconcertvideo 3 жыл бұрын
Kate got the Fairlight very late in the production of Never For Ever, and it wasn't a principal compositional tool like it was with The Dreaming. A good example of that is when she performed Babooshka on the Dr Hook special and it was missing the glass smashes, that were added on the final mix.
@heathcliff1096
@heathcliff1096 3 жыл бұрын
@@midwestconcertvideo She confirmed herself in an interview she used it first time for Never For Ever, she even corrected the interviewer who made the same mistake.
@michaelgask
@michaelgask 3 жыл бұрын
Kate Bush is one of my all-time favourite artists, and I suddenly realise that it's been a while since I've listened to The Dreaming. Thanks for such a great overview of this album... I'm off to relisten 😍
@bernlin2000
@bernlin2000 3 жыл бұрын
Now I got to hear "Sat In Your Lap" for the first time, after (like Steven) first being introduced to Kate with "Wurthering Heights". Fantastic stuff, Kate Bush is totally unique, her voice is so intriguing.
@anttipikkusaari4855
@anttipikkusaari4855 3 жыл бұрын
This is total sweet spot intersection for me. I have been big Kate fan since Wuthering Heights* AND The Dreaming is my favourite album by her AND Porcupine Tree / SW is my biggest music discovery as an adult. Thank You both! *Still remember when I heard it on small mono radio for the very first time. I believe I was 13 years old. So, it made lasting impression. Years leater, while in university, a friend hacked my Unix password; it was way too easy to guess: katebush
@stevchuck
@stevchuck 3 жыл бұрын
"The Dreaming" isn't my favorite Kate Bush album, but my very favorites ("Hounds," "Aerial", "Sensual World") would never have emerged into the greatness they are without it. This was an insightful, great conversation of a record that deserves deep discussion and explication. Love Steven Wilson's own body of work, and his perspectives on this record are interesting and unsurprisingly sagacious. I, too, would love to hear him do her records in 5.1.
@dereckvon
@dereckvon 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy listening to Steve speak.
@Fredo_Viola
@Fredo_Viola 5 ай бұрын
What a wonderful conversation! And of course Steven Wilson would adore this album!!! I discovered him through his remixes of Gentle Giant, and I really believe this album of Kate Bush’s, as well as her previous and following releases, could arguably fit into the label of prog rock. It always feels so incongruous to hear this album being referred to as “a pop album.” Pop? Not really even Prog Rock! A better word would just be art. I believe the first side of Hounds of Love could be categorized as Pop, just because there are a handful of songs which certainly have a more even shape and sound, less esoteric, easier to put into context. The Dreaming is an escape into the world of imagination. This album is, in my opinion, live it or hate it, Kate Bush’s most pure and authentic creation, in my opinion, and an absolute masterpiece.
@marceltroia9750
@marceltroia9750 2 жыл бұрын
It's the best seeing other people geeking out about your favorite Artist
@pytski4345
@pytski4345 3 жыл бұрын
@17:45 except the notably sick guitar on Pull out the Pin.
@twinsofdoom
@twinsofdoom 3 жыл бұрын
Huge fan of both Kate (since I first heard the Dreaming) and Steven (since the PT days) ... this interview was a real treat! FYI - my twin sons were students of Adam Holzman, the keyboardist in SWs solo touring band. The Twins and I have met and chatted with Steven on numerous occasions - he is quite an interesting Dude!
@technobears
@technobears 3 жыл бұрын
Get Out of My House is my all time favorite!! Love Kate!!
@gabrieleluparello3312
@gabrieleluparello3312 2 жыл бұрын
Marvelous discussion. I've never heard somebody analysing a record in a so deep way as in this video.
@ClassicAlbumSundays
@ClassicAlbumSundays 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@chameleon-dream-band-official
@chameleon-dream-band-official 3 жыл бұрын
Kate Bush was the soundtrack to my childhood as my dad was a huge fan. For me , it was Never Forever. As a kid that album gave me nightmares. So many strange and evocative songs plus the creepy album artwork (sadly the connection between the music and the artwork is a dying experience, although great to see the re-emergence of vinyl!). I also think she set me on a path to my preference towards alternative music. She deserves all the plaudits she gets.
@giovanni2668
@giovanni2668 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks Steven for your frank & intelligent analysis of that album. Love Kate Bush but I think I’m actually going to listen to more of SW now, seems like the guy in the pub/ bar you can talk forever to about music. Brilliant.
@hectorlagos8937
@hectorlagos8937 10 ай бұрын
Pull Out The Pin is one of my favourite songs of all time
@howardrankin7119
@howardrankin7119 3 жыл бұрын
What a great discussion , so many insights from both of you. An incredible album in the strictest sense of the word
@rainerzufall42
@rainerzufall42 Жыл бұрын
She already used her (own?) Fairlight CMI on her third Album "Never for Ever", see "Babooshka" as an example, after working with Peter Gabriel on "Melt". On "The Dreaming", she had some more experience with it, bringing it to perfection on "Hounds of Love"...
@MrGIJuu
@MrGIJuu 3 жыл бұрын
Steven has also noted the song “All The Love”, in particular the section with the choir boy, as having inspired him when making Hand Cannot Erase.
@theginnor
@theginnor 3 жыл бұрын
Was always made fun of for liking Kate Bush/Roxy Music growing up in Canada, and this album would have had my friends put me in the nut house had I played it for them....always loved the Dreaming, especially Suspended in Gaffa...not my favourite KB LP, but its up there. Thanks for the discussion. Love your music Steve, you are so unique from all the crap we hear on the radio...thanks for not selling out.
@danburnes722
@danburnes722 3 жыл бұрын
Who would make fun of you for listening to excellent artists like Kate Bush and Roxy Music?
@FuturePast2019
@FuturePast2019 3 жыл бұрын
"The Dreaming" is the only album of Kate Bush that didn't go Gold. (only Silver) . Creative, but not commercial. I'm a fan of the combination. Also of Steve Wilson's 5.1 mixes. He's a gift to the music world on several dimensions.
@josemanuelhernandez3072
@josemanuelhernandez3072 2 жыл бұрын
Now at 42 Years old. I wondered,…how the darn didnt I heard this album before??…..So fast it became one of my loved ones.
@feelxmusic
@feelxmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely essential. And I share Steven's obsession with Kate Bush of course😊
@fogzax
@fogzax 3 жыл бұрын
On a completely random note my neighbour was in the garden with the headphones on singing yesterday and I realised he was listening to Suspended in Gaffa. My favourite tracks are There Goes a Tenner, Suspended in Gaffa and The Dreaming.
@chrisknowlton9460
@chrisknowlton9460 Жыл бұрын
My favorite track off The Dreaming is All the Love. 😍
@bjorkissimo
@bjorkissimo 3 жыл бұрын
The dreaming is a masterpiece. The soundtrack of my adolescence 😜
@Ueberschaer
@Ueberschaer 2 жыл бұрын
A very interesting conversation about a special album. Inspires me to listen to the album again. Thank you very much for this post.
@todd6851
@todd6851 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice discussion!
@JonPickles
@JonPickles 3 жыл бұрын
Superb really enjoyed this, one.
@paulpeartsmith
@paulpeartsmith 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot that when Yeats ago I heard this album , I loved it but for the longest time after my first listening I wculd listen up to "Houdini" because " Get Out Of My House" scared me so much. I was 19 years old and over it now lol :)
@Myplop
@Myplop 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, I love The Dreaming, it’s so multilayered and fantastic production
@ThePajdzik
@ThePajdzik 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful interview on a fantastic record.
@chrispicquet733
@chrispicquet733 2 жыл бұрын
My first exposure to Kate Bush was when she did that great duet with Peter Gabriel in the song"Don't Give Up!"I was amazed by her bizarre style that no one has or will ever duplicate! I have three of her albums .she was very different in pitch and presentation,dynamic range,and just great!
@hjones451
@hjones451 3 жыл бұрын
Not Percy Thrower, Steve! He lived near me, BBC Gardener& fuchsia expert from Shrewsbury. I do own 'The Dreaming' - bought it the week it came out - agree about the vocals + drums mix - Loved the cartoon-type drawings on 'Forever' Album and was a regular at Peter Gabriel concerts at the time. Cheers H
@sspbrazil
@sspbrazil 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great album.
@kennethbent6423
@kennethbent6423 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my all time favourites albums when I first got it I didn't know if I liked it but I couldn't stop playing it that was 1982 and I haven't stopped playing it since a true masterpiece
@jankafka7330
@jankafka7330 3 жыл бұрын
I'd only heard Kate Bush on a "Saturday Night Live" performance. I bought "The Dreaming" sight unheard and loved everything about it immediately. So much so that her back catalog disappointed me.Skip to the present...Nothing she has done since matches it in strength and genius. "Hounds", "Aerial" and "Snow" are great albums no one else could have made but "The Dreaming" stands above and beyond any of those.
@grahamhowes6904
@grahamhowes6904 2 жыл бұрын
Aerial and Before the Dawn are two of my favourites
@paulpeartsmith
@paulpeartsmith 2 жыл бұрын
I respect the intensity so much. You're right she never got there again, but Hounds of Love benefited greatly from the frontiers she found on The Dreaming. Its my favourite album hands down.
@judithweiss6727
@judithweiss6727 Жыл бұрын
it was my first exposure to her, given to me on a cassette by a friend. Loved it immediately and yes, the rest are not as good. :-)
@CARambolagen
@CARambolagen 3 жыл бұрын
And the drums on Sat in your lap! A 6/8 with drums as a melody bit like Japan on Tin Drum which came out at around the same time...
@StarlessBandNJ
@StarlessBandNJ 2 жыл бұрын
Just been getting into Kate Bush. Some absolutely incredible albums. Cool to hear Steven talk about it as well.
@JG-kl5tt
@JG-kl5tt 3 жыл бұрын
Why won’t Kate Bush get SW to do Surround Sound Mix of her back catalogue. HOL in 5.1? Sweet!
@TheCleasby
@TheCleasby 3 жыл бұрын
He wants to. Couldn’t get her interested I believe. This may change.
@JonPickles
@JonPickles 3 жыл бұрын
She has Stephen W Tayler to do the remixes. He did her live show and 50 words for Snow.
@TheCleasby
@TheCleasby 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonPickles Not a surround mixer though
@JonPickles
@JonPickles 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCleasby he is and he’s done all the Be Bop Deluxe and many more
@TheCleasby
@TheCleasby 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonPickles I forgot that. I should have said not a very good surround mixer then. Would be a disaster if SW doesn’t do KB. Like the mess of Rush. Just did enough to demonstrate why he should have done it all.
@dbg32
@dbg32 3 жыл бұрын
It was such a leap from Never For Ever to The Dreaming. I’ve loved it since I was 15 and I am 50 now.
@machman23
@machman23 3 жыл бұрын
Night of the swallow reminds me of walking through piles of crispy leaves, has an Irish flavour to it.
@staalmannen2522
@staalmannen2522 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys. Thank you for a very interesting video. Actually The Dreaming is my favourite Kate Bush album too. I never get tired of it. I love all the songs, but my favourites are Leave It Open and All The Love. Thanks to this review, I found your music too Steven! I have downloaded Hand.Cannot.Erase on Spotify today and it's stunning! I will be playing this record for years, and I will also check out the rest of your catalogue. Thank you! Best regards from Ståle in Oslo.
@paulcartwright5836
@paulcartwright5836 3 жыл бұрын
The Dreaming (the track) is awesome.
@vinylrulesok8470
@vinylrulesok8470 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the only album from the remastered 1 box set that I have yet to listen to so you’ve piqued my curiosity. I remember when it came out and reading a fairly scathing review of it in one of the pop mags so I always knew it was a different kettle of fish to the first 3. If only today’s artists were allowed to be as experimental and fearless.
@stevemuzak8526
@stevemuzak8526 3 жыл бұрын
That album isn't easy to digest at first. Isn't accessible at all. You have to listen to it at least 5 times. Then you will love it.
@CARambolagen
@CARambolagen 3 жыл бұрын
The Dreaming is just one of those abums where pop succesfully becomes art... (just like Japan's Tin Drum but with more diverse colour...)
@augustosolari7721
@augustosolari7721 3 жыл бұрын
'Drums and her voice' what an amazing definition of her artistry at her peak.
@mikelenox7999
@mikelenox7999 3 жыл бұрын
"I don't know if I like it, but I think it's amazing" pretty much sums it up. :)
@evildrganymede
@evildrganymede 3 жыл бұрын
funnily enough I had to listen to Steven WIlson's solo stuff and PT stuff several times before they really clicked too :). But it's worth it! The Dreaming is fantastic, I think it's so under-rated. The Night of the Swallow is my favourite but they're all great songs and so unique!
@marknesser9602
@marknesser9602 3 жыл бұрын
I love Kate's album The Dreaming and Steven Wilson's album Hand Cannot Erase. The Dreaming is Kate's Prog album and it makes sense that the Prog master Steven Wilson would be inspired from it.
@VerMaarte
@VerMaarte 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, for me as a musician and composer ... It's brilliant
@direnova6284
@direnova6284 Жыл бұрын
Just listening to her albums makes me feel smarter.
@ClassicAlbumSundays
@ClassicAlbumSundays Жыл бұрын
Love it :)
@CARambolagen
@CARambolagen 3 жыл бұрын
The title track: a big BANG of experimentation!
@OperationPhantom
@OperationPhantom 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, always a treat to hear Steven talk about music. Great interview, hope Kate watches this one too! This may be my favourite Kate Bush album as well, so daring and enchanting! Fascinating that many people seem to feel there's a "haunted" quality to the album. It sure takes you to weird places. There are also those who experience eerie moments of "synchronicity", while listening to the album and then something random happens, it becomes this "epic" moment :D
@sordel5866
@sordel5866 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the narrative that they offer here won't bear close scrutiny. “Houdini” & “Night of the Swallow” have more a sumptuous sound with chamber strings and piano respectively: I think that they barely mention either. “All The Love” is a very pure ballad. Then they say that Hounds of Love drops the ventriloquising, while forgetting the dog barking in the title track or the multiple voices in “Waking The Witch”. Still, it's difficult to handle an album as diverse as The Dreaming even in a podcast of this length.
@OperationPhantom
@OperationPhantom 3 жыл бұрын
@@sordel5866 I guess the Dreaming is an album that when it REALLY hits you, it resonates on a personal note for every listener and becomes something truly unforgettable and unique. It works very well as a whole for me, possibly better than any of her other albums. It will always be too weird for some people but that's OK, not everybody has to love or even like it.
@sordel5866
@sordel5866 3 жыл бұрын
@@OperationPhantom I wish that SW hadn't focused so much on having to force himself to like it, though: while it's admittedly a divisive album I don't remember struggling with it as much as he did. The three albums that preceded it rather boiled a frog when it came to weirdness & eccentricity.
@OperationPhantom
@OperationPhantom 3 жыл бұрын
@@sordel5866 Yeah, well that's HIS take on it. Kinda surprised myself I guess, as I only remember being intrigued, a bit confused but quickly smitten with the album. There Goes a Tenner is like a perfect POP song to me :) Maybe as a musician he's all like "whoa, wait a minute... that's not how it's normally done..."
@soupdragon151
@soupdragon151 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Steven at 6.10 her first three albums are conventional and while they show an undoubted brilliance its muted and fenced in by conventional standards of the day i.e. a producer that was assigned to her and clearly there other people pulling the strings behind the scenes, they're interesting but not on the whole terribly exciting for me. With The Dreaming all that changed all those conventions and frankly people were thrown out and from then on Kate is in charge of her own destiny her own direction and honestly does what she wants and while in most artists that would likely be a recipe for disaster for Kate it totally freed her creativity and TD is simply an explosion of innovation and sheer naked creativity and while it sometimes doesn't always work enough does to make it an extraordinary album that I return to again and again as one of my favourites. Who else would or could dare to be as brave as Kate Bush?
@roberthenry747
@roberthenry747 3 жыл бұрын
Hounds was the first album I heard, so it's hard to warm up to others being better. I like The Dreaming, so I'll try to listen to it more.
@davidmadden8083
@davidmadden8083 3 жыл бұрын
I love everything Kate Bush has ever done. It's been a long while since I listened to the Dreaming. I was curious if Steven had ever actually met Kate.
@dermotoblong
@dermotoblong 2 жыл бұрын
The 'chorus' on There goes a Tenner.....All the Love, etc. Atmospheric masterpiece.
@Remolizzo
@Remolizzo 2 жыл бұрын
Pull Out the Pin and Houdini are my favorites
@urbandiscount
@urbandiscount 10 ай бұрын
Hounds of Love is 2 albums really, the A side, which is the "commercial" bangers. And then you turn the record and you're listening to her NInth Wave suite, a journey through the bardo between living and dying, told in the mode of a rescue at sea film. I also think Never Forever was the pivot. In The Dreaming she also allows herself to sound "ugly", even using double voice quite a lot.
@mondexbop
@mondexbop 3 жыл бұрын
Please Steven;do a remaster of "The Dreaming".
@Spock105
@Spock105 3 жыл бұрын
I love the song : All the love . In a certain way it reminds me of Alice Cooper's Alma Meter . Though Bush takes it another level in creating this eery atmosphere. This album is indeed a tour de force of goin' against anything. It is prog but not as we know it.
@rain73ful
@rain73ful 3 жыл бұрын
My favorites are "There Goes A Tenner ", Pulling Out The Pin", Night Of The Swallow" "All The Love",' "Houdini ", and "Get Out Of My House".This is a great album, edgy and disturbing, and not for the fans who like the Kate Bush "Weathering Heights" style of music. This is dramatically different stuff!
@user-rp6tm6wq4m
@user-rp6tm6wq4m 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. The dreaming is brilliant but is not for all the kind of ears.
@ashtabet3450
@ashtabet3450 3 жыл бұрын
I adore The Dreaming and I adore The Kick Inside. Two very different sounds, but Kate made them work in unbelievably well done ways. So I think The Dreaming can be for fans of Wuthering Heights.
@user-rp6tm6wq4m
@user-rp6tm6wq4m 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashtabet3450 I think you' re right
@mikatile
@mikatile 2 жыл бұрын
It's different, but Wuthering Heights was just as extraordinary when it was first released. The Dreaming is taking the boldness and originality of the songwriting and vocal performance in Wuthering Heights and building on it. I imaging that most of the people who liked Wuthering Heights and followed Kate also love The Dreaming.
@SOALNightLive
@SOALNightLive 3 жыл бұрын
Say what you will about Steven, he often has great taste in albums.
@stevemuzak8526
@stevemuzak8526 3 жыл бұрын
He listen to everything that isn't popular and well known.
@jeffjedifitz
@jeffjedifitz 3 жыл бұрын
Get out of my house use to scare the shit out of me under the bed covers as a teenager🙄
@graysonk6695
@graysonk6695 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha I had a chuckle at that
@MoonchildDog
@MoonchildDog 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! It absolutely terrified me too when I was 15 years old
@latinwoof
@latinwoof 3 жыл бұрын
Me too...She sounds possessed! The first time I heard it, I got out of my house very quickly and I went to the garden in the full sun!
@silgen
@silgen 3 жыл бұрын
So it should, it was inspired by the Stephen King book "The Shining", and Kubrick's movie.
@orangeadventure975
@orangeadventure975 3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or has Steven's public profile really increased recently? I remember back over a decade ago when Porcupine Tree was still a thing and he rarely if ever talked or gave interviews. He seems a lot more open and personable now.
@darphaedrus1558
@darphaedrus1558 3 жыл бұрын
Ya no kidding, maybe since marriage he's become more social?
@CARambolagen
@CARambolagen 3 жыл бұрын
But the guitar that IS on the album is just wonderfully original. Like on Pull out the pin...
@pytski4345
@pytski4345 3 жыл бұрын
@7:40 “I don’t need musicians anymore...” except the best bassists I can find!!
@setichas
@setichas 3 жыл бұрын
She said I don’t need....
@glenrotchin5523
@glenrotchin5523 2 жыл бұрын
No mention of the most moving song on the album, the hauntingly beautiful Houdini. It has all the hallmarks of the album, experimental, storytelling, drama, at once old and new, but notably doesn’t have the heavy reliance on percussion and harkens back to earlier Kate Bush songs with a simple gorgeous melody, lush string arrangement, and romance tinged with regret.
@urbandiscount
@urbandiscount 10 ай бұрын
The flipside of the vinyl album sheet tells you explicitly what the code is in the song, Houdini always escapes, just as in NF she was partly free of inluence which she also used to become a producer in her own right for her own songs. She went on to over-produce in all albums after Hounds of Love.
@gaffawebber
@gaffawebber 3 жыл бұрын
Leave it Open is my fav from this album, but I love the thing tbh.
@CARambolagen
@CARambolagen 3 жыл бұрын
This album is much better than any bjork album
@CARambolagen
@CARambolagen 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this album gets a talk it deserves. It' just magic and not just Kate Bush but great other musicians with stunning ACOUSTIC arrangements. Especially those vocal arrangements!!! Stunning and totally unique! Has anyone heard vocal arrangements like 'Sat in your lap'?
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