My College Story and How College Can Be a Scam

[@jimmyb3352]

How many people have a college degree, yet your job does not require a college degree?

[@525Lines]

95% of college education can be done at home on the computer. Education is important as a personal achievement but career wise, get a union job, a post office job, something blue collar. Most professional careers don't last the time it takes to pay your student loan.

[@JTDyer21]

If I could go back in time I would have skipped college. It took forever, cost a fortune, and no job after I finished. In other words, college didn't help me at all.

[@PsychedPerspective]

I went to a community college with a full ride scholarship. I graduated with honors with two associates degree in 2012 at the age of 19. From there I transferred to a 4 year university despite having scholarships still needed loans to pay the other half of the expenses. This year (May 4, 2014) I received my bachelors degree and I own $13K for the two years I was at the 4 year university....Now, I have 3 degrees and I work part time 29 hrs per week, minimum wage and I am a custodian....#RealityCheck worst decision of my life.

[@JPChannel100]

Wow I am sorry to hear that. What you have done though so young in life is still pretty impressive. The reality is that it does not matter how smart or skilled you are there are no jobs.

[@PsychedPerspective]

Thank you and yes I agree. The economy is horrible and people are getting degrees in fields that are not supplying jobs...its simple supply and demand...and ppl need to wake up and realize they are wasting their time.

[@LalienX]

A degree doesn't put you above anybody else. If you go for the degree than that's all you're going to get.

[@PsychedPerspective]

I didn't say it was going to put me above anybody.

[@merikslingerland1293]

what majors ?

[@AeroAngle]

Community college ask you for a high school diploma? at my community college I just signed in and took classes... I could of gone to college while in high school

[@JPChannel100]

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[@DrZarkloff]

I have a B.A. in Sociology and Anthropology from Florida International University. Big Deal! I've never really had a job that required my education. I can't complain about the price because I went to college when it was cheap. I went to school on my G.I. bill that I got from being in the U.S. Army. I was actually paid to go to school. No loans. No debt. I couldn't go to college today even if I wanted to.

[@Jhihmoac]

My niece is a grad from Ivy League Cornell...Same garbage all around in the job market, "Sorry, you're not what we're looking for..." (That's if she gets a response at all) With a huge student loan debt looming over her, she now refers to Cornell as "Cornhole U"...So much for prestige...

[@workingshlub8861]

my father forced me to go to a trade high school..best decision that he ever made for me.i make decent money..have no debt and always have work. he knew college was a waste of money for the most part.

[@11Rawz]

Don't feel bad. Many of us have gone that direction because we thought it is the right path to go to get where you wanna go. These things were instilled in us through parents, teachers, adults, and politicians. The choices that you and many of us made is not the problem. The problem is the greed and lies of colleges, corporations,and government which made the system get out of control by colleges charging more in tuition and books, Corporations not hiring and paying college graduates.

[@JPChannel100]

Yeah a resealable and reusable zip tie; it will hold 50 pounds of weight up to 185 degrees Fahrenheit, bundles as large as 1.75 inches in diameter, is Ultraviolet light resistant and will not melt to about 542K and has a density of only 1.14 grams per cubic centimeter. I like how they are very easy to use and are more sanitary and easier to clean than hair ties. Thanks for asking!

[@JPChannel100]

Yeah a resealable zip tie; it will hold 50 pounds up to 185 degrees Fahrenheit, bundles as large as 1.75 inches, is UV resistant and will not melt to about 542K and has a density of only 1.14. I like how they are very easy to use and are more sanitary than hair ties. Thanks for asking!

[@JPChannel100]

This personal experience is a serious trend as a whole; devalued degrees and an increased percentage of service jobs that are low paying/low skill do not require degrees.Experience still outweighs education as many are offered jobs based on results not education.Consider my review as one would look at an online review of a restaurant and the dish ordered; the restaurant was poor and the type dish regardless of preparer in general was not a pleasing item to most like Khlea or a Durian.

[@JPChannel100]

My point in the previous comment was that the educational options must be relevant to the career paths that are available. The Community College model of having commuter students with relatively short 2 year periods of educational requirements combined with more compact and cheaper facilities and generally newer equipment would allow them to be optimal training grounds for future jobs. I am happy with my life. I am employed and a Bachelors Degree would have led me to the same place but in debt.

[@dligon01]

This video is very accurate. I have to admit that I am already in the trap of college debt. I am already pursuing for my master's degree soon. My option at this point has to be hope or it will lead me to depression regardless of all the facts.

[@merikslingerland1293]

well, if the masters you are getting is in engineering you'll be fine. If you're graduating in psychology or women studies, then sure, chances are you're fucked

Here in Michigan we have a career college that have a mechanical engineer, civil, industrial, automotive service technology they also have health programs and on and on. They also require a internship before graduation. People need to smarten up and pick their majors a little more careful and also pick their schools a little more careful my school is a non for profit meaning that they just don't let you in with out taking a test to see your weakness and then giving you help in those areas.

[@JPChannel100]

I am sorry to hear that. I would like to thank you for your courage to try to pay back the debt and for entering the service. I hope good things will happen for you in the future.

[@JPChannel100]

I am not complaining about the job I have. The fact of the matter is that much of the knowledge necessary to do much work today is acquired at the job or can be learned by disciplined studying.The honest truth is that my family and I could not afford a pristine college education so I took what I could pay for with my own money. I maybe should have taken a scholarship to an ivy league but I never bothered to apply. Though it is now apparent that the college industrial complex is a debt-scam.

[@SuperMcusername]

Hey so, do you think putting/risking the money to put in a small business is better than putting it into the education? I mean, If you get a start off to how to get enough money to proceed on with your life...AND you could get an education on the side what do you think?

[@JPChannel100]

Yeah I would think that would be a great idea. One can start a business in something and expand into other areas as time goes on. Businesses move in real time and adapt to survive while our formal educations are processes that take time and might be relevant at graduation. Even a small profit is a profit.

[@elzoog]

Let me briefly tell you my story. I went to college to study math because I was good at it and was interested in it (I am still interested in it). But going to college actually HURT me because I had to take a lot of bullshit classes that I wasn't really interested in, never mind the thousands of dollars I spent because I was interested in the Riemann-Zeta function. So I have some ideas about how we can change the education system that I can't express in 200 characters or less. Interested?

[@infamouscrusader3363]

I am just like you, however, I want to study English instead, I am interested in English. However, I am doing classes that are pointless and have zero interest in learning, simply because I have learned them in High School. You're right, the schooling system in America is failing. It's not about learning. It's about regurgitating and passing.

[@JPChannel100]

Yeah I do ask myself that a lot but I already saw how bad the economy was getting when I was leaving Community College. What if I could not get a job? I will always know that I never borrowed money to get my education, I never used the government, I never lived beyond my means, I did everything on my own and my own way. One of my best friends went to Cornell but he is now in Heaven; I wonder how much he could have done.

[@ameeny3389]

Um....Community Colleges generally don't offer 4-year degrees. They offer 2-year Associate's degrees that are almost worthless. Community Colleges are useful for transferring to other universities to get Bachelor's and Graduate degrees which are worth a lot.

[@elzoog]

How about this idea. Instead of setting up a school where you can get a BS or BA degree, how about they offer certificates instead? For example, you want to study renaissance period poetry? The school offers that course and if you complete it successfully, you get a certificate in renaissance period poetry. Also, most of the money you pay for the course goes to the professor that teaches it. Potential problem might be, a course in PHP programming would be much more popular than poetry.

[@ThePeaceMaker09]

I am currently doing a blog on how to take back education and how to get back at the system at the same time.....can I use this video pleas? I would of course link back to this

[@moileung]

this vid is 3+years old but this dude is very smart. nice video.

[@JPChannel100]

I do not know how that can be said. I am showing how the standard 4 year college degree can be unnecessary and not that education can be a sham. Most of the emergency response workers like the police and paramedics hold educations learned inside of community colleges and with the aging infrastructure of universities combined with the sustainability and flexibility of community colleges the ideal source to educate workers on the skills necessary for any future jobs will be community college.

[@Liuhuayue]

If you want to go into business, you need job/ internship experience or good ideas first and foremost. You may also need some sort of advanced accreditation, like an MBA. Undergrad is okay, but it's not the only thing you can rely on if you want to go into business...

[@batman7401]

It looks like you know nothing about business yes for the good ideas but the rest yeah sure if you're gonna look for a job

[@Liuhuayue]

Mikey johnson You basically just repeated what I said. So are you saying that you don't know anything about business either? -_-

[@batman7401]

+Liuhuayue you don't need an mba for business....

[@Liuhuayue]

Mikey johnson I said "may". I did not say that you HAVE to have it, but it may be needed for company positions- in that case, an undergrad degree would not be as beneficial as tacking on a master's. Obviously, it's not required if you want to be your own boss; for that, however, you need a good business idea and some money, whether through loans or otherwise.

[@batman7401]

+Liuhuayue I would not take out a loan I would probably start a small business then save money to fund my main business because if you take out a loan and let's say business is shit them you're screwed but if you have a good idea and know how to get people to come to you then in that case you are gonna be a millionaire or billionaire if you keep doing good moves

[@trevorfoley4381]

Dude your the fucking man. You explained exactly what's wrong with our society.

[@JPChannel100]

Sounds great, feel free to add more comments. Your story is very relevant as so many young people have talents and interests that are set aside by the bureaucracy that are education requirements imposed by the college industrial complex. If you have a certain interest or skill why do we limit your ability to pursue what you need to be successful? We lost our place in the world by making necessary information secular, expensive and delayed four years. Ask a MBA how to setup an EIN.

[@M22OHIO]

I did something similar I went to a community college like you and I used the money that I would have spent going to college and started a small business of my own. I like being self employed rather then "working for the company". I would say being like a diesel mechanic and a CDL A holder you will always be in demand.

[@jefffuehr366]

man, i would be so fuckin pissed if i got a bachelors degree, and didn't get a job making $130-$200,000 dollars a year. this crap about how all these college graduates are unemployed, not employed in they're field of study, and working with other people who never went to college, is bullshit. in my opinion, employers got flooded with resumes from college graduates over the last 20 years, and now there's no good jobs left. which is why there's all these college graduates who are unemployed, and in debt. basically there's too many college graduates, and not enough $130,000 dollar a year jobs. now-a-days if you go to college, you gotta make sure that there,s a large employer demand for that major. otherwise you're probably gonna be screwed when you graduate.

[@Liuhuayue]

+Jeff Fuehr Lol, not every degree is equal. You'll be in a world of disappointment if you think you can get a $130,000 job right off the bat from just a 4-year basic undergraduate university; some people can, but the vast majority don't. You most likely need higher degrees or job experience, or both, to ensure more success in the job market.

[@pranksterguy1]

Get a hot dog cart.

[@Liuhuayue]

pranksterguy1 Indeed. PewDiePie made it big, going from a hot dog seller to a rich, self-deprecating KZbin star. :3

[@hudsonjamesc]

i think a lot of people go to college because it is a class and status symbol

[@infamouscrusader3363]

Me too. Apparently, if you do not work a white collar or Professional job, you are seen as a failure, even if you gone, majored in a worthless degree, and the best job you can find is minimum wage.

[@DonnieLev]

of course you didnt need SATs. you went to a community college. lmao

[@jenna2431]

Community college is extension high school. Used to be you graduated high school with the ability to make a living.

[@taoist32]

Most students won't get into a ivy league school. It takes at least a 4.0, acing the SAT and ACT tests, and taking a ton of extracurricular activities. Only a few high school students will have the desire and motivation to do this.

[@JPChannel100]

Sometimes degrees provide valuable skills and sometimes they don't. The issue today is that degrees are sold as certifications like a job hunting license. Honestly we know that product degrees are sold to young people; professors have even admitted to me that salesmanship is a necessary component in modern colleges. You do not NEED a degree to be successful. We all carve our own paths in life mine has no debt obligations.

[@beachjon91]

The truth has been spoken.

[@JPChannel100]

I am not looking for sympathy at all in fact I am happy I did what I did. My guidance counselor said that I would be accepted to an Ivy League and that scholarships would have been more prevalent if, "I was another race,". My counselor also said that she wanted me to take another SAT even with my high score because, "It would show a drive for constant improvement,". The points about researching before going to college are what I am trying to illustrate in this video.

[@MrGoatflakes]

You have to decide what you are going to do before hand, then look for a college that doesn't have a completely horrible reputation in that field, & that has recognition by your professional body. If they don't look at your scores, then they are probably fishing for students. You have to ask why. If you aren't doing something highly technical like science or engineering, medicine or law, or don't you have a legislative requirement for a piece of paper, you have to ask is college really for you.

[@chetpomeroy1399]

The maker of this video appears to have a great deal of insight into this matter. He makes some rather astute observations.

[@11Rawz]

Are you serious? What jobs do you do? What university did you attend to get your Accounting Degree? How long has it been since you graduated?

[@JonathanSchattke]

I agree that the vast majority of college students are involved in something they neither understand, appreciate, nor will get any use from. For those people, college is a waste of their time, because they will never gain clarity of thought. Engineering - even at the mediocre institutions - remains a strong payback candidate; almost every other discipline should be approached with caution.

[@BrieoRobino]

The sat/act is VERY important for UNIVERSITY. community colleges take anybody so I'm not inclined to believe that you would even get into Ivy League school. The major you choose sounds like something any HS grad could do. You said Bachelors degrees are like blades of grass, so what does that say about your associate? It's not hard to pick a good major after doing the right research. And why would you waste your money on classes you thought were "fun" that what high school was for. If you are

[@bagofbarn]

I wish I never went. I did the masters and got into huge debt and now I am in the military trying to pay off my loans. It is the last thing I thought I would do.

[@kelloggcerealxoxo]

you really sound like an eloquent guy, wish i had gone to a community college. Universities are an UNIVERSAL scamfest, I'm dishing out 40k a year to study useless crap and I'm at a point where I am about to drop out because of my low grades. I'm really having a hard time comtemplating where I should go next in my life.

[@JPChannel100]

Some buddies of mine went off to Ivy Leagues one was my best friend. It is not as scary as one might think,

[@JPChannel100]

Yeah but it was a good start compared to minimum wage.

[@jwoods9659]

The elephant in the room is it does not matter what you learn if you are not living in the current city that you can grow!! 99% of your success is your location. I just moved to Texas from Louisiana it is like light and day. You MUST look at the industries in your area many of the higher jobs are in BIG CITIES like New York and if your not able to move you are at the basic level. It not just what you learn it's also the TYPES of job you have worked that get you hired.

[@KareemHadee]

How on earth can you expect to get a refund from college? The only way that can happen is if a college can take your mind and erase the experiences you have....

[@jackmiddleton2080]

Yeah that was the one major stupid thing he said. But hey, he's mad.

[@the_gilded_age_phoenix8717]

***** People usually forget about 80% of what they learned in college, within a couple of years of graduating. It would be more reasonable if he asked for an 80% refund.

[@KareemHadee]

saintgauden Whoa! If you are going to forget about 80% of what year learned, then why the hell did you agree to PAY for it over the next 15+ years through student loans? I remember MOST of the things I learned in High School, including my teachers names & the periods I was in. Learning is never a process that stops after college. Learning is a way of life. You never stop learning or else you die. Even a high school drop out will continue to learn & learn & learn. Also, Failure is a learning process. People need to stop comparing themselves to the bullshit they see on TV. Failure is a teaching aid, and can lead to major breakthroughs! Just look at the lives of Albert Einstein & Thomas Edison for example....

[@jackmiddleton2080]

***** I think most people go to college for the degree. If I wanted knowledge then I would just read books at the library.

[@the_gilded_age_phoenix8717]

***** I'm just saying what happens to most people. Students pay because they have no choice...they must pay the ransom, or they can't work white collar professional jobs here.

[@YouKnowThisBoy]

is that a cable tie in your hair?

[@ericholmes5962]

Life is about getting rich for the children.I like it how the Mo Thug Devotion song says Bless All The Children not just some but all the children.This keeps kids more focused and keeps them on the right track.When you doing something right and even with the money God will give you more money it works for me.I told myself when i get money i will throw a little something in they account every time i get paid.

[@ddemier]

how has college paid off for you now in 2017?

[@deretreivels44]

start young with a couple shares of well known dividend stocks like verizon, conocophillips,, kmi, tgh GE, etc etc. Hold them forever and add a couple shares each year. If you dont sell them you will eventually be able to live off the dividends. You dont need a lot of money if you start young

[@johnnygunzfilmbuff7821]

I had this Biology Professor hardcore he was nice, and honest probably the most honest teacher I've ever had in my life. He told me go to a trade school. He says when you go to a trade you make a decent living and you get your benefits. I decided after community college I'm going to a trade school for either massage therapy or something else.

[@infamouscrusader3363]

That teacher was a Godsend, Trades are on demand right now and your better off going to Trade School. If you do go to the Trades, Or if you are in it already, Good Luck.

[@johnnygunzfilmbuff7821]

Thank you Issac Moreno

[@dennismarin2170]

Do you go to Bake College?

[@CaliforniaArchitect]

Students should demand to get their money's worth out of education,. and know that not attending college is a legitimate alternative. Taking what you would have spend on college you can buy a profitable business. And no, you don't need a degree to run many of these businesses.

[@rkrw576]

I respect your experience and initiative. However, I would not be so quick to dismiss the value of college. It depends on what you want to do, particularly in the long term, and what kind of person you are. THere are very interesting career tracks that only college can open, such as international economics work. I studied politics and had a very hard time getting my first job (way back in the 1980s), but am now a writer and travel all over the world on commission, all expenses paid, to do investigative reporting. THere is no way I could have done this without a good education. That being said, you are absolutely correct that many jobs do not require a liberal arts education even though that is the hurdle they all too often set for the first interview. I also agree that we have to re-think our national priorities. I hope to see more of your vids and wish you luck.

[@11Rawz]

Our country has changed and many things that is of value has changed and you can see it through lies, deception, corruption and greed through colleges, corporations and businesses and government which effects all of us. This a new way of life and new generation - a nightmare that we hope that did not come through. Now, many who went to college and obtain their degrees are in debt and cannot find a job as if they were lied to and the job they do find you dont need a degree to get it.

[@blackcoastprodctions]

Very cool video you have about college. I have been in community college. It's been totally fucking bogus. University seems intense because of the whole constant artificial deadline to learn how to regurgitate on command some irrelevant bullshit in order to satisfy my longing of professional acceptance and respect. For me it's an identity thing. How am I going to stand out when all these other dudes have degrees just like me, and none of us have experience. Easy. I'll get experience first.

[@OkashaSH5]

Thanks for the perspective.

[@makemeupplez]

i love your personality

[@sirarnie9837]

The fact of the matter is you won't be in contention for many jobs if you don't have a degree. Call it a scam, call it what you want, but that is the way it is. Minimum educational requirement: Bachelors. Good luck getting around that one.

[@reyrobertson16]

Bro, do you live in the hood?

[@Vietnamemperor12346]

colleges these are focusing more on money than being educated.

[@cooltonator]

This is the only video with the same title as a lot of others that actually made sense. Most of these types of videos are about these dumb asses who went to ITT tech and got a worthless degree and are in debt. Yours is different though. Great video! I'm still going to college though because i'm not paying for it so i really have nothing to lose, but still you had some great points. made me think.

[@TheFremenChick]

You are losing time, though.

[@trevorfoley4381]

FremenChica mostly life lmao

[@infamouscrusader3363]

Technically you do have something to lose, and that is time, but what do I know, hopefully your're majoring in something that is worthwhile.

[@JPChannel100]

Very True. I know people who actually use college degrees as a scale for dating. I have seen young men and women who have masters degrees turn into coach slugs while those with high school diplomas become very successful buying several cars and becoming small business owners. Many degrees today are just a way for stupid people to land a job or a superficial way to keep up with the Joneses.

[@abelcsabaika]

This is the third video I watch that has the title about college being a scam (or that it can be) and all of them were only stories about people who chose bad college with bad teachers and stuff. If you want to do a discussion about it, your own story is not enough...if once I ate a really bad salad that doesnt mean that I can evaluate weather vegetables are a scam

[@abelcsabaika]

Ok but that doesnt say anything about college in general, it just suggests that you should consider weather its necessary to get a degree for the job that you want to do or not...I agree that you should define your reason why you go to college and you shouldnt just go because "everybody has to go" but your review doesnt answer the question weather college is a scam or not...the title should be: my college story and cases when it can be UNNECESSARY.

[@seinfan9]

It never crossed my mind that the govt would offer student loan forgiveness in exchange for military service. They must definitely have this on standby just waiting for the perfect time to dangle that carrot. Maybe in the next 5 to 10 years.

[@Network126]

I was interviewed on RT News in 2011 about being long-term unemployed. I can build and repair computers, produce network-quality video, I have a clean record, plenty of varied work experience, good references, etc. ***STILL can't even get a job flipping burgers since 2009!*** I'm living in my dad's 10'x5' dining room, got an '84 Ford sitting in the driveway, covered in spider webs and dirt (because I can't even afford to fix and drive it). Check out my "Unemployed 99er" videos... -Brian

[@thegiantpaperpanda]

You're a genius!

[@kevinzurita7973]

why didn't you go to ivy league? With the degree you would get you would be able to get a job right out of college. the average starting salary from Cornell is $125,000. Its RIDICULOUS to believe that saving a minimal amount of money is better than complete financial sustainability. I would believe your arguments, but its all based off of speculation and invalid assumptions. Seriously most of the people who post things about college being a scam aren't doing as well as a 4 year university grad.

[@trick6952]

You only need a HS diploma college is just a big pile of shit. The reason why I wanted mine was so I can get a job working in the IT field. Only way I would ever go back is once I pay off $1800 to UOP and actually get an associates degree in information tech and theres actually a damn job for that.

[@midevil656]

College isn't a scam if you're doing science or engineering.

[@trick6952]

You know what, I feel the same way about college sometimes. I was born in 1989, my original graduation was scheduled for 2007 but I ended up graduating in 2010. I was not the smartest student in school but I always knew college was a complete ripoff. like fast forward like a year after that; I tried taking my classes online with UOP was a complete waste of fucking time. I only owe about $1800 in dept but hey I'm not completely in debt and I found a job getting paid 12.96 an hr so fuck college.

[@stennett84]

God Bless you young Man😇😇

[@jizzythefroggy1108]

wtf is up with that sheetrock? and is that a plastic zip tie in your hair??

[@lawrenceq79]

Good video. You made the right choice.

[@11Rawz]

Your right.

[@rogiemcdodgeball7749]

Is his hair ponytailed with a fucking zip tie?

[@JTDyer21]

So basically a roll of toilet paper is now worth more than a college degree. Think it's crazy? Ok, when's the last time you went into debt for a roll of toilet paper and then be told you couldn't use it for lack of experience?

[@davidontiveroz8295]

JP hate to say it but it was your own fault that you dropped engineering

[@Scarlet_Lunacy]

just take Private collges, lesser bullshit.

[@amandanerdbotdesumaiden7418]

Actually public colleges are a better deal than private colleges. Public colleges are cheaper than private ones and offer the same quality of education.

[@Scarlet_Lunacy]

Amanda NerdBot Private Colleges have courses that are shorter and more concise without that extra BS Math, Bio, English and what-not. You pay more for the lesser bullshit and finish earlier sounds like FAIR trade-off.

[@BrieoRobino]

If you guidance counselor tell you to take another sat that means you didn't do so well on the first one so it's best to take her advice. I took SAT prep because that score will make or break your chances of getting into college. By not doing the proper research and getting a shitty degree you screwed yourself and I don't feel sorry for you.

[@rightangle4]

ALRIGHT

[@gamesmaster35v2]

of course they are not going to let you go and take the course, acquire the knowledge and then give back the degree.You still know what you know.It's not like your community college has a machine to erase your memory of ever taking the course. But the second half of your video was enlightening.Not so much your education but in the cases you sighted it was what you did , the activities you engaged in that gave them more of an inkling of what they can expect from you as a person that got you the job.I always thought that schools should concentrate on building up confidence, courage and leadership in young people.I really do think that lack of confidence is one of the major reasons so many don't do well.How many people do you know that have tons of talent but never risk trying to do anything with it.

[@mophead5375]

I think you should do stand up comedy

[@jlong2315]

While I agree with somethings you said. you can not return the knowledge you have taken into your brain. You are paying interest on the loan not the degree. That is why you can not give back your degree for the money you borrowed.

[@notbigtony]

but you could get all the info for free on the internet or books. You don't pay for the knowledge, you pay for the piece of paper. It used to be different, when the internet wasn't mainstream, but now you can learn anything online for free.

[@jlong2315]

you could but most people would rather go to college rather than sit down themselves and learn what they want to know.

[@KiLLED5639]

WorstCaseAce But the thing is, college is self study. The only thing we really want to pay for is the Professors guidance in the subject. The only part I really dislike about college is the set time frame they give you to learn the subject. Some of those subjects, and the professors know it better than you, can take years to really learn them. So in reality, were not really learning all we should. And this is what people are having issues with. The education while all encompassing is not complete to the full extent because of not enough time to learn them. So the schools really leave it to you to figure out everything and then telling you, you did a bad job if you didn't pass the coarse or you didn't complete in time. This system, especially with the internet and MOOCs, seem a little redundant.

[@the_gilded_age_phoenix8717]

notbigtony Gotta pay for the rubber stamp barrier to entry. Unfortunately, getting a job in today's world requires the stamp of approval....so knowledge gained without the stamp has no value, unless you start your own business.

[@notbigtony]

saintgauden You seem very adamant that a degree is 'required' and you 'got to pay for it', but even Google now is hiring people without degrees. But yes, it is true most places require a degree, even if the job itself requires no actual intelligence or skill. In that case, I feel lucky that I have my own business and would recommend to anyone to find their niche and start a side business in it. Or, if you have no creativity or time to start a business then you could easily just fake a degree for most jobs.

[@MrGoatflakes]

Um dude what were you expecting? A college mathematics program turns out mathematicians. To be a mathematician, you need to learn some deeply uninteresting and done to death. Just as if you become a foundry man you need to know a little bit about pattern making, etc.

[@dennismarin2170]

Baker*

[@mtime6]

Mistakes in this video: 1,) Ivy league colleges are expensive Reality: they are dirt cheap if you qualify as a low income person. For low income, it is a certain percentage of your income. 2.) Community College Reality: Community College is NOT COLLEGE. IT IS A JOKE. DO NOT GO. IT IS A SCAM!!! My personal experience: Go to college to further your career choice. DO NOT GO if you have no idea what you want to do in life. Take a year off and figure it out. When at college, work on getting RELEVANT internships. WORK EXPERIENCE > GPA. --Class of 2014, employed 4 months after graduation.

[@matthewwh100]

I agree for the most part, but community college can have its benefits if paying for college is hard. I'm a student at UNC and I was also in an early college for four years, where I earned my AA and all my gen eds except for language. Now, I have so much flexibility in my schedule that I could actually qualify for majors in more subjects than I am allowed to take (English, Math, PWAD, and a Creative Writing minor). But if you're not going to a community college for a mechanical or low-ranking medical certification or to save some money on gen eds, then it's a scam.

[@mtime6]

matthewwh100 I agree. I just graduated in 2014, and found a job rather quickly. The key to finding a good job is to network. Grades, although important, are secondary to being able to make real impact in an interview or in a simple introduction.

[@KiLLED5639]

mtime6 Actually, community colleges, depending on where they're located, offer a lot of career related stuff. But unfortunately, they only offer to you while your going to school there. And it continues. Internships can only be given to students that are actively taking classes during the semester. In fact, to get those services, you have to be taking classes during the semester you want to get career help. and then, there's the GPA rules. But it's not just the CC's, it all coleges.

[@gsxwrx]

LISTEN you like saying listen

[@the_gilded_age_phoenix8717]

gsxwrx Probably indicates the area of the country he's from and his socioeconomic class. I'm guessing it is working-class northeastern or north mid-west phraseology.

[@the_gilded_age_phoenix8717]

saintgauden I'm thinking Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, or perhaps Minnesota.

[@gsxwrx]

saintgauden i'm from Illinois so i'm guessing he's from Minnesota. Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois dialect sounds similar.

[@the_gilded_age_phoenix8717]

gsxwrx It could also come from parts of the northeast, in the less urban parts (like NY, MA, PA). Not sure, but MN could be a good guess.

[@saferider1094]

I spent the last 10 years of my career hiring young engineer , and I would not have hired you .

[@thequestion2056]

why????

[@ameeny3389]

Returning Knowledge? Either you're high, or you're a time traveler.

[@johanexxxx]

Same shit here, in school for a degree in electrical engineering which I would have never bothered with until my parents pressured me into. Now Im nearly 30 000 in debt, can't get a job in my field and my parents have to dip into their pockets to pay this senseless debt I took, its not that the degree is worthless, its that I don't have any work experience.

[@germanynjpw9754]

Just illustrate and say Life is a prison, a jail, forever.

[@MeZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZ]

great vid

[@Defrap22]

You look like chad channing with glasses from nirvana 😱

[@JPChannel100]

Elaborate.