My Color Grading Workflow - DaVinci Resolve 18 Tutorial

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Sjoerd Wess

Sjoerd Wess

2 жыл бұрын

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@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
What is your favourite color combination?🎉
@The_Idea_of_Dream_Vision
@The_Idea_of_Dream_Vision Жыл бұрын
teal n orange
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Appealing
@OlavJ
@OlavJ Жыл бұрын
More color grading please🙌🏼
@KeeganBenn
@KeeganBenn 2 жыл бұрын
I love this! Thanks so much for the in-depth colour grading tutorial. Not just the technical on how to achieve a look, but the theory behind this was really useful! Very underrated youtuber right here!
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot man. Means a lot!
@sasishaan
@sasishaan Жыл бұрын
When you mentioned how you create an intimate shot by introducing foreground elements-that blew my mind. You're so right!
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Glad this helped you
@GaryCunninghamyouareenough
@GaryCunninghamyouareenough 2 жыл бұрын
I found this so helpful - thank you so much Sjoerd 🙏🏻
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot mate!
@mastixmastix
@mastixmastix Жыл бұрын
Beautiful film and great explanation on how to arrive to that aesthetic.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot man!
@TheYarbros
@TheYarbros Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your breakdowns. Thank you!
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@daviddebruijnvisuals
@daviddebruijnvisuals 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this Sjoerd! Very nice to watch, easy and calm. We defenitely need a tutorial on the color wheel made in Fusion!! I would love to learn that.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
Onto that in the coming weeks/month!
@elliotforeman
@elliotforeman 2 жыл бұрын
This was fun and easy to follow, thanks! Also, I loved the end product of the commercial :D
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Elliot!🙏🏼🙏🏼
@ninety5directed
@ninety5directed Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I learned so much. Thank you!
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad it helped you!
@VisualArtistmedia
@VisualArtistmedia Жыл бұрын
Awesome video thanks
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@jonathannowa170
@jonathannowa170 2 жыл бұрын
I love your edit bro!
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@AngelaVKuhn
@AngelaVKuhn 2 жыл бұрын
niiice, just what I needed! gracias
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
De nada!
@mikefei6934
@mikefei6934 Жыл бұрын
Great sharing!Thank you so much :)
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!🙏🏼
@The_Idea_of_Dream_Vision
@The_Idea_of_Dream_Vision Жыл бұрын
thank you for this one
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@AdityaDixit03
@AdityaDixit03 Жыл бұрын
These videos are so rich. Why is this channel not have the recognition and subs it deserve!!!!
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Cheers for this mate!
@uncleanAlibertine1
@uncleanAlibertine1 Жыл бұрын
great mate
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Cheers buddy
@loucasolv
@loucasolv 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I can't belive how u have so little followers, kepp it going! Greatings from Spain!
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
Will come mate! Time will tell :-)
@dominicbartschi6450
@dominicbartschi6450 2 жыл бұрын
I had to try the workflow for my latest clips 😃 it's amazing - thanks man! Any tips for shooting on C-Log for shadows? I feel like sometimes they kind of fall apart.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
I would over expose a bit perhaps! Worth trying out!
@wimwesselink3707
@wimwesselink3707 2 жыл бұрын
Nice man.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks dad!
@timlaing8674
@timlaing8674 10 ай бұрын
You're such a don man, thanks for this:D
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 10 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@irvinvanrooy
@irvinvanrooy 2 жыл бұрын
Love this, thanks so much. Came over from Jacques page.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot dude. Glad to see you here!
@wildpatagoniafilms16
@wildpatagoniafilms16 Жыл бұрын
Excellent post! To the point, concise and super interesting! Couple of questions... You placed the CST node after a "balance" Node? Was this shot with the BM 6K or the Sony FX6... and (sorry...), last one: Davinci Resolve can work with ProRess but not ProRess RAW? or neither? Thanks! Excellent channel!
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! 1: Yes, generally you want to balance the image in LOG, before converting it into another colorspace. 2: Pocket! I read that the new version can work in ProRes RAW. Not sure tho!
@staticvideo
@staticvideo Жыл бұрын
Great video! Two things though: firstly placing you CST in the beginning essentially kills the benefits of RAW/LOG shooting as you squeeze you colors into a significantly smaller container, and secondly when using the DaVinci film LUTs, the CST before it should not go to Arri LogC or any other camera log, it should export Cineon Film Log to produce the right film print output. Technical aspects aside, if it works, it works. I love your end result and the shots are great! Keep it up!
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Glad you said the last sentence; if it works it works. Haha. You're right in some way, but I've seen amazing grades done in ways I would never even consider doing it. I believe the end result counts, and the way to achieve it is less important. Of course, a basic knowlegde is important!
@staticvideo
@staticvideo Жыл бұрын
@@SjoerdWess Absolutely, it was just worth mentioning, as if you were to be grading a very color-taxing scene, your approach would've significantly limited the possible outcomes as the rec.709 container is times smaller than any arri wide gamut or blackmagic wide gamut. That said, what matters is the end result. Your videos look fabulous and it's obvious you put time into planning all of it and in combination with a great edit - you get a winner! Keep up the good work, brother. All my rambling is to hopefully help you or anyone else that sees it haha.
@scotey
@scotey 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a pro colorist, but this is amazing work to my eye. I'd love to shoot something so imperfect that used non-standard techniques! :) How big was your crew on this? Am I correct in understanding that you were responsible for camera and color? This work is so good I'd expect there to be a different person responsible for each.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott! It was only me and my AC for camera. And yep, I was responsible for color and camera. There was a small crew for direction/art!
@maikeljorge5615
@maikeljorge5615 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial. Always in each shot you try to block the frame, even if it is a feature film. Do you use a tripod?
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
No tripod. Mainly handheld!
@user-ok4ug9th1p
@user-ok4ug9th1p 2 жыл бұрын
what the level of video!
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers dude
@paulm8157
@paulm8157 2 жыл бұрын
Solid post, Sjoerd. Tailoring content to viewer knowledge level is key, IOM; the mix here too wide. Target viewers more advanced than most, my guess. That means opener stuff is likely “well known” to viewers. Node tree stuff for advanced folks - segment could benefit from outline-type step by step text shots for clarity and emphasis, if that makes sense, if for no other reason than to keep attention of lesser advanced folks. Shot comp and palette section more understandable. Final vid would benefit from YT cc, multi-language by viewer choice - was that an option for you? “Possess” a good word😁. Nice that the camping tent lasted all those years. Oil lamp to LED a nice touch - wouldn’t have noticed if you had not mentioned it. Grown lady should be using Google Lens to ID wildlife😁. Cheers!
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
You are so right man. Thanks for letting me know! I will keep this in mind next time I make a video like this. Appreciate it mate!
@hkm2023
@hkm2023 Жыл бұрын
Hi, as a DP / Colorist myself I would be very interested to hear why you choose to put the Rec709 CST in the front of your node tree instead of the end and then building the node tree left to the CST. This way the image would be manipulated in its natural Log State remaining all of its dynamic range while still giving you the rec709 on your display as a reference. Also, why did you use Log C for the FPE LUTs from Resolve? As far as I know, these LUTs expect Cineon Film Log as Gamma, not Log C - although the difference might not be that big. I know Log C is a hair more flat that Cineon, but the FPE LUTs were designed for Cineon. Would be great to hear your thoughts on this! Greetings from Germany
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Hi Hanno! When recording this video, I was convinced that the CST node effect was working destructively, meaning it wouldn't matter wether placing the correction nodes in front or after. As I've gotten loads of feedback, I tried testing the 'original' way, and yet, no difference. Maybe it's me, but I think you can use either way, so: correction (exp, wb, cont, sat, CST - or reversed). Yes, FPE's require CINEON log, Log-C comes very close to Cineon LOG and I personally like it better. It has given me great results, so it's kind of in my workflow. Rules are there to break, or at least see if they matter to you ;-).
@quintenjacobs5684
@quintenjacobs5684 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this video. I am always looking to improve my workflow. I actually do the same and start with a CST to rec709 because the primary wheels work as expected with rec709 as an input. You can correct your footage and then CST back into your favourite flavour of LOG since the CST is non destructive unlike a LUT. It's a really nice workflow because you can get very good result fast. One thing tho @Sjoerd I learned recently is that if you have a proper whitebalance the skintones should be spot on already and it's unnessecary to use qualifier. My mentor told me he only uses qualifier as a last recourse. It's easy to destroy the image or make it look unnatural with qualifiers. In my last 5 projects I graded I used zero qualifiers & his advice really changed the way I approach new grades and above all it improved my grades. Yew
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Cheers buddy! Thanks for letting me know. Thanks for this insight mate, appreciate it a lot!
@WOWmaticFilms
@WOWmaticFilms Жыл бұрын
I too have the same doubt. Putting a Rec 709 conversion as the first note make the color space smaller and remaining grading will have less space to work with resulting banding or chroma noise more than working in a wider space like DR intermediate space and then converting it to rec 709 at the last..
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Its an interesting debate. I did switch things around myself now. Changing my workflow. But still, i believe after doing loads of tests that it doesn’t matter. But hey, who am I? I care about the end result. All the nitty gritty is too technical to me! Haha
@lambisstratoudakis
@lambisstratoudakis 4 ай бұрын
Is it not better to adjust contrast on HDR as there contrast don't affect saturation?
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 4 ай бұрын
It can definitely!
@verticaldreams1149
@verticaldreams1149 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sjoerd. Please don't take.it the wrong way but this is not a proper way to grade. Two biggest things I noticed... if you're converting to rec709 with CST that should be on your last node, not one of the first. Always grade in log space, not rec709. Second, film print emulations are not intended to be used on any log space but in cineon log. Also, skin qualifying is not necessary in most of the situations. Keep things simple, broad strokes will get you there. If you want to learn color grading I suggest visiting Cullen Kelly's channel.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
I personally never grade in LOG. I've done this, but results were way better for me when grading in a rec709 basis. Also, as mentioned in someone elses comment, I used the same nodes for skintones to isolate particular colors in the frames where no skintones were present. Shouldve mentioned this :-p. Using Filmconvert is a bit different than using traditional FPE's. But how I usually work, is from a Arri LOG-C profile, which comes close enough to CINEON and gives amazing results. I know things are done differently than they 'should'. That's the whole thing, there is no right or wrong in any creative artform. The output matters, right? Thanks for checking the video dude! Appreciate it.
@verticaldreams1149
@verticaldreams1149 2 жыл бұрын
@@SjoerdWess Well, there's no law to prevent you from doing the way you want of course but there is a reason why colorists work in log space and why fpe's are created for cineon log. Guys like Kelly or Darren Mostyn can explain why this is so far better than I can. And once you know the technical boundaries of the tools you're using there's plenty of room to be creative.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
I can totally get what you're saying. I will do research on this matter. Everyone always learns and gets better. So do I. Thanks for the headsup dude!
@ryanmethric1029
@ryanmethric1029 Жыл бұрын
When is it appropriate to use a color checker to make skin tones accurate? Does this artistic grading process make the use of a color checker obsolete?
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Ive never done this tbh. So I cant give out advise on this! Sorry man!
@ryanmethric1029
@ryanmethric1029 Жыл бұрын
@@SjoerdWess I was under the impression that video footage needs to be color corrected with a color checker, before color grading is applied. Lol now I’m confused!
@dbcandela
@dbcandela 2 жыл бұрын
You should put CST in the last node so you dont limit the full range of the information your footage has.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
CST is non-destructive. So it doesn't matter. The data is kept. My exposure is adjusted before the CTS, which, in my personal opinion, worked best for me. Check out Juan Malera, great colorist going into more detail about this.
@daviddebruijnvisuals
@daviddebruijnvisuals 2 жыл бұрын
@@SjoerdWess I think Diego is right man.. I don't know if you are referring to this video: "Insider Knowledge - An easier way to grade log footage" from Juan Malera. In that video he converts to other color spaces and works in between them, this is different than your case I think. Now your only profiting with your exposure node from the log space and your other nodes not. I could be wrong, but this is what I learned. So just wanted to share the possibility of this workflow.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
You’re right to a degree. A CST is different than applying a LUT as a conversion. A cst node works non destructive, so no data is lost after the conversion. It just works differently, but in my opinion that aint a bad thing
@daviddebruijnvisuals
@daviddebruijnvisuals 2 жыл бұрын
@@SjoerdWess Ahh okay, Then I learned something new today, thanks!
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
I might be wrong as well hey. Just my ‘logical’ view on it haha
@incognitojayy
@incognitojayy Жыл бұрын
Not sure why but I am not understanding the way you explained the High range and Low range. Also, didnt understand why you needed a keyed node for the skin... If you key the skin on one node, whatever changes you make on it, wouldn't it be the same?
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Ive learned it this way because the node selection could change if you change colors on the same node! High low range is just a way to isolate colors in a specific area.
@incognitojayy
@incognitojayy Жыл бұрын
@@SjoerdWess ahhhh. this explains it alottttt better. Thank you.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, ill make sure to explain such things a but more in depth
@incognitojayy
@incognitojayy Жыл бұрын
@@SjoerdWess you’re fine brotha. I understand that you werent speaking your native language. I appreciate you clearing up the understanding for me as well. Thank you.
@stevenfries7032
@stevenfries7032 2 жыл бұрын
I have both Filmconvert and Dehancer. I will say this. Dehancer is hands down more superior plug in. It puts filmconvert to shame.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
Ah for real! Thats interesting. Would you mind sharing your opinion? Im curious
@stevenfries7032
@stevenfries7032 2 жыл бұрын
@@SjoerdWess Well for Starters, the Film Stock from Dehancer is just way more plentiful than FC. You have a lot more to choose from. you have more options for Film Print Emulation over FC. But that is not where it ends. You have better options for push pull EV, you can change the color heads as if you were printing actual film stock. Film Grain is a little more customizable. but the option for defringing, film breath, gateweave film bloom(completely different from bloom plug in from DR). The halation effect adds a more authentic touch. And its nice that it has false color when you are exposing in the plug in. Another thing that annoyed me about CF is I would have to add the vignette in another node. not anymore. Dehancer has that. Also, if you are big time. you can actually output this stuff out to film negatives to be printed authentically. There is a reason why dehancer is worth 400 and FC is work like a little over 100. its just superior. if you ever have the extra cash, go get dehancer.
@dapunkof1975
@dapunkof1975 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm I find this coloring workflow a little over complicated for something like this. I find the film lut cst thing to be a bit of a cheap trick. Idk don’t take it wrong but the problem I have with watching content creators explain colorgrading is I wonder if they know or thing what they’re doing is destructive of an image or if its just a means to an end. I mean keying things is also just a quick way to destroy that image.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Destructive to an image or not, if it looks good my goal is achieved. I dont follow the books or do what everyone elses does and thats something I try to bring across. There is a ‘perfect’ way of doing something for everything but greatness is achieved once someone dares to break free. See legendary cinematographers, directors etc. Every node you make is destructing the image in some way, and thats totally cool.
@dapunkof1975
@dapunkof1975 Жыл бұрын
@@SjoerdWess Breaking free sure but every node is destructing in some kind of way? No. I mean that’s saying every node is purposefully causing the image to become worse and there is no fix. I suppose there is no wrong or right.
@martinpostmusfilmmaker
@martinpostmusfilmmaker 2 жыл бұрын
Geabonneerd 👊
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@linahincapie4183
@linahincapie4183 Жыл бұрын
Amazing and beautiful the experience of watching you explaining. Very useful! Thank you!!! you're hot 🤠
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Thanks Lina! Glad it was helpful! And double thanks for that compliment, ha!🙏🏼
@tomaszbejnarowicz
@tomaszbejnarowicz 2 жыл бұрын
filmconvert is pretty good but the optimization... rip your pc
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
I havent had any troubles tbh!
@JustPassingByBaby
@JustPassingByBaby 5 ай бұрын
EXPOSURE before CST????? wtf
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 5 ай бұрын
Always. I build my entire grade these days before CST. Building the grade in LOG grants for more flexibility.
@JustPassingByBaby
@JustPassingByBaby 5 ай бұрын
@@SjoerdWess Please have a chat with some Color Scientist or at least an exp colorist to understand the difference. There is a reason for everyone using IDT and ODTs in their usual places.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 5 ай бұрын
@JustPassingByBaby oh I did. With BMD engineers, colorists, all of them.
@JustPassingByBaby
@JustPassingByBaby 5 ай бұрын
@@SjoerdWess And they told you to put the IDT at the back?
@elieskateur
@elieskateur Жыл бұрын
Too much contrast Too much saturation
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback
@allenpayne9182
@allenpayne9182 2 жыл бұрын
Stop qualifying skin tones when it is not necessary. ;) Would not reccommend it. So-called "COLORISTS" should stop "teaching" this technic.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I generally used it since a lot of the tones where present and this way I could control them regardless of skintones or not.. but I respect you.
@tyson-thecreativecrowd1779
@tyson-thecreativecrowd1779 2 жыл бұрын
@@SjoerdWess Dont you get problems with artifacts of the matte when keying the skin like this?
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, you need to play with the blur, black/white radius etc to ease that off! Works wonders
@JimRobinson-colors
@JimRobinson-colors 2 жыл бұрын
This is a legit reply. Teaching this as a technique, to new users is especially steering them in the wrong direction. Almost all modern cameras actually record skin tones accurately. What does happen is that the temperature or ND filters or lighting controls the image and it appears that the skin is misrepresented. But the skin tone is in most cases, is the subject of the frame, and is the most recognizable to anyone as being "off". So in the case of lighting or white balance or whatever is making the skin off, it is usually present in the whole frame, but is not as apparent as it is on the skin. If the balance leaned toward green- the face would show it right away, but not in the background of cooler color hues. Deal with the balance and get the skin correct - there is no need to qualify skin as a goto procedure. Of course the better the photography the easier this is to do. Using a skin qualification means that every frame of your video needs to be scrutinized. Which of course is possible but in every project I have ever worked on, there is no budget to do this and the end result is no better, and in a lot of cases creates more work and problems. The qualifier will react to different trim changes and in the case where someone steps in or out of the light - there will be chatter. This chatter to the end user will look like noise. So I agree with Allen here - Walter Volpatto is one of the world's best Colorist and if you go take his masterclass with TAC, there is no time where he qualifies skin as a procedural step in grading or color correction in his teaching. So why would a beginner, learn this before learning to color correct in the most logical way? Pick the subject and grade for the subject. If it is a person - skin first. If it is a mountain - grade the mountain. The end viewer should be looking at the subject and it is the most important asset to be correct and everything else is secondary. The tutorial here is literally the opposite.
@SjoerdWess
@SjoerdWess 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, Jim. Appreciate you taking the time to write all this! The title says ‘my workflow’. I get that people get upset because its not ‘by the books’. But this worked for me for this job, and so it might do for others. Its here to get people going and go from there. The end result is what matters and if thats acceptable, than thats good. Dont take all this too serious. Its free advice, and there is enough in there for people to learn at least something.
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