My Decision On A NEW WOOD BOILER!

HI everyone here is my thoughts on a new style wood boiler! Our current model is a CL 6048 Classic Wood Boiler by Central Boiler!

[@user-no8zv1rr7l]

Agree 100%. I had a Classic Edge 550 gasification boiler and I can tell you from experience it was a pain in the "A". I just put in a Classic 5036 this past November and man what a game changer. Now I enjoy burning wood again.

[@jimschnelle5635]

Same here started out with a 5036 13 years later started leaking got a 350 gasser 3 years later it started leaking. Then for 3500 upgrade to a 360 gasser had enough after 1 year traded for new 5036 so much easier

[@HomesteadJay]

Long live the classics brothers!

[@welderman1221]

Modern cars with Satellite connection= location monitoring, controlling all driving functions, = CONTROLLABILITY!!! BIG BROTHER LISTENING!!!

[@DanielAtkinsFirewood]

Exactly. Automotive stuff are the same way..

[@HomesteadJay]

Preach!

[@ronpendleton492]

Yup you won’t see me driving any newer trucks with onstar or gps or any of that. Love my 2000 Chevy 2500

[@jasonmacintyre3039]

Take a look at the portage and main boilers

[@HomesteadJay]

Ive heard people mention those. Same with crown royal "coal" stoves

[@gregtory7953]

Love my portage and main, BL 4044, it’s painless and I toss all the wood in. No issues, no learning curve, no relighting. So simple, 8000 soft, burn baby burn

[@HomesteadJay]

Sounds like a good unit!

[@ryanspencer4363]

My dealer in Indiana has brand new cl6048 you would just have to make a little drive. When my cl4436 starts messing up I’m getting a 6048

[@allritecoach6357]

What dealer is that?

[@ryanspencer4363]

@@allritecoach6357 pearls landscape construction he has everything you need for the wood burners on hand. Great guy too!

[@HomesteadJay]

Good to know!

[@GeneralBeefDip]

Agree 100%. I’m on my 5th year of a classic edge 750 gasser. Heating 5,000 square feet, and I’m burning 10-13 cord per year. We have all the equipment to make it easy (4 way splitter, skid steer, and tractor), but with how picky they are with wood/maintenance I can’t do another year with it. This will be my last year with the 750. We basically have unlimited wood so I’ll choose something less picky with maintenance/wood processing even if more wood is required.

[@HomesteadJay]

Thats EXACTLY my point! I dont want to have to get a excavator and a commercial splitter to keep up with the wood needed for these machines! Id rather burn more ugly/unsplit wood than less perfect wood! Thanks for sharing!

[@Treestofirewood]

Amen my brother. Loved it.

[@nwynneus]

Exactly why I passed on the tax credit and bought a Crown Royal 7300MP. Old school simple and burns anything, yet efficient with the multi pass.

[@HomesteadJay]

Exactly! Let it rip!

[@mooselips7397]

Excellent video, I have to agree almost %100. I had a forced air wood burner in the basement for 25 yrs and ran across a used CL5036 3yrs ago and I should have done the owb many years ago. Very safe and simple and it uses less wood than the indoor wood furnace did with better heat about the house. Added the fact that it does the domestic hot water also and I burn all year round. The only way I would consider a gasification unit is if I had limited wood access and close neighbors. Thankfully I have neither, but the big brother aspect I'd never considered. Now I see it everywhere! Looking forward to see what you end up with and good hunting!!!

[@HomesteadJay]

Indeed brother! I want the convience over the efficiency!

[@2012theraven]

Having owned a eclassic 1400 for 12years, then bought a cl6048 last year. I would never go back to a gasification stove. All the cleaning and maintenance, plus having to split everything. The classic is the way to go. And it's not burning any more wood than the eclassic either. I burn seasoned wood with the classic. 100% agree with you on all the work involved with a gassifier vs a classic.

[@HomesteadJay]

Thanks for re assuring my decision! Glad you found the classics easier!

[@mossman7527]

Your so right on the BS of them three letters. Am with you

[@HomesteadJay]

Rock on!

[@dianeblackington6524]

Great video JJ stay true to your beliefs

[@brandoncase4952]

You are 💯 % correct in this video!! Same team buddy... excellent video!

[@HomesteadJay]

Appreciate it!

[@jacksonbeverly3250]

Classic all the way, never will give up my 5036 classic, keep up good work man

[@HomesteadJay]

Classic!

[@clashavenfarms6714]

First off, Merry Christmas, Jay and family. I have an EPA indoor wood furnace. I agree with all your points. The new furnaces are very efficient. But the wood has to be well seasoned and if it's wet you're going to fight it all day. You are 1000% correct in your analogy of time spent and efficiently. It does depend on how you are set up to process the wood. For me I'm very happy with my new furnace. I burned 4 cords last year compared to 10 in my old wood stove in my old house. Good video Jay. Have a great New Year.

[@HomesteadJay]

Thats the thing I dont have a problem with them. I just dont want one LOL I like the idea of being able to burn not so seasoned wood. Ugly rounds, non split wood. Crotch logs, cedar fencing LOL love it!

[@fireman032180]

Merry Christmas from Maine!! Never had a wood boiler until last year. Got a 560HDX and so happy with it. I deliver heating oil and don't want to heat with it

[@HomesteadJay]

Indeed Ill take wood all day! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well! Hope both went great!

[@aldiminico6513]

Merry Christmas, Jay, to you and the family from Massachusetts 🎅🏻

[@HomesteadJay]

Hey Al! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well! Hope both went great!

[@DanielAtkinsFirewood]

Jay. We hear you and understand, automotive stuff I deal with is the same way.. Merry Christmas to you and your family 🎄 😁 👍

[@HomesteadJay]

Thanks Dan! Hope you had a great Christmas and New Year!

[@oviduran]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and family!

[@HomesteadJay]

You to Ovi! Hope both well great!

[@CarolinaOutdoorWoodstoves]

Before you buy, take a look at the Portage & Main Ultimizer. I've had three different woodstoves over the years (1st a Hick's Waterstove, 2nd a Heatmaster MF Series, and now a Portage & Main Ultimizer). The ultimizer is a conventional boiler BUT the firebrick lined firebox allows the temp to breach into gasification which is a more efficient burn. It is a really nice boiler.

[@HomesteadJay]

Thanks for the suggestion! Ill check em out!

[@HomesteadJay]

I dont mind that idea of the ultimizer cause it is a mechanical gassification. I dont like the computer controlled ones like CB does for the new ones. A mechanical gasser is something I wouldnt reject because I dont think they need perfect split wood cause its forcing air into the unit.

[@joeford7350]

Jay, I agree with you100%. Most of the time simpler is best and cheaper. Merry Christmas!

[@HomesteadJay]

Indeed! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well! Hope both went great!

[@JamieE76]

Totally agree, Jay! We'll stick with the Classic as well.

[@HomesteadJay]

Indeed!

[@hillbilly2224]

I couldn’t agree more with your boiler choice 🤙

[@richarddabkowski2896]

I have a gasser. No problems burning spruce/pine. Just need to put more in as that wood just doesn't have a lot of btus. I definitely burn ugly wood (and branches) as well as full rounds (occasionally if it was dead standing). Although with the big rounds I do ensure I have split wood around it.

[@HomesteadJay]

Funny same idea with the classic! I "tuck in" my big unsplit rounds with splits LOL

[@stevenloy6657]

I agree completely, I have a hawken he1100 that was here when I bought my property. I’m not trading that boiler for anything, reliable, simple and can burn whatever fits in the door. Good vid man!

[@HomesteadJay]

Indeed! Happy burning!

[@jefflandon9125]

I love the classic too

[@bradderouin5692]

I have a Crown Royal 7300e (gasser). I burn anything and every kind of wood. Whatever falls down dead on my property. Only thing that it’s super picky about is super green wood.

[@HomesteadJay]

Thanks for sharing!

[@JRHammer64]

Outdoor wood boiler terrorist hackers😅😅. I just bought a new wood boiler two months ago. Very tough decision between the gasification and the conventional. The dealer recommended the gasification, all my friends that have had OWBs for 10 , 15, 20 years recommended the conventional. I went with a conventional and absolutely love it. Enjoy your channel. Another great video. Happy new year.!

[@HomesteadJay]

Im glad you went with the conventional! I think its easier to run just use more wood thats all.

[@fricknjeep]

hi there lots of good points , new vs. old in everything

[@HomesteadJay]

Yes indeed!

[@TheFoo182]

I'm with you, Jay! I have a CL5648 . I'll keep mine/repair mine, or replace it with another Classic!

[@HomesteadJay]

Long live the classics!

[@daveadkins2976]

Good job Jay, stick to your guns, Merry Christmas

[@HomesteadJay]

Thanks Dave! Hope you had a great Christmas and New Year!

[@f150bft]

You are correct... and yours is more efficient than my Hardy H-4 Heater. But like you said.... If wet concrete would burn I could use that for fuel. As a bonus mine is all stainless steel. No rust worries.

[@HomesteadJay]

Stainless steel ones are beautiful!

[@f150bft]

@@HomesteadJay well.... Mine is just a rectangle, flat top and bottom. But it works. Great video as usual Jay.

[@dwightminor5792]

Classic guy too! I want to keep mine as well and get another when this one goes out. Im with you simple. If i need wood in a pinch i just want to go out and get some and throw it in ASAP. You not only have extra time but gas for the splitter and then wear and tear on splitter so is it really worth it like your saying. Definitely not worth it in my opinion. There is a lot more cleaning with those as well.

[@HomesteadJay]

No doubt! Preach on!

[@John__Wayne]

I made the same decision this year with my new one except I went with a different brand. I bought my stove in our business name (although it’s heating my home, don’t tell Uncle Sam) because for some reason non-gasification is ok for commercial use. Our local Central Boiler dealer stocks stoves just like yours for this reason. So that could be an option for you as a tree service owner.

[@HomesteadJay]

Yes indeed it could be! I will have to explore that area of using the business!

[@taumbannon5289]

I don’t know anything about wood boilers. But I am sitting in front of my wood stove loving life. I think you should do whatever works for you. 🔥

[@HomesteadJay]

Haha maybe ill put a wood stove in just for the fun of it LOL

[@jeromeprzybilla9999]

I agree with you Jay 1000% to all your points! EPA has made all energy using appliances so complicated to operate and expensive! I replaced some water supply lines to my faucets and now my water runs so damn slow because all they have available now are them reduced size water supply lines and I live out in the country with having my own well. I've run a conventional owb since 2000, when the time comes, I'll definitely buy another conventional non complicated several 1000 dollars less expensive owb. Great video!

[@HomesteadJay]

Oh man those dumb hoses I know all about LOL or the DUMB plastic insert reducer haha drill those F'ers out haha thanks for the comment! Long live classic boilers!

[@jeffschaefer4579]

I've had a 5036 since 2011, it's been undefeated. I put up a metal shed with roll up and walk in door, stuffed it in there after one ohio winter fighting snow and ice with a tarp blowing all over heck. When I go out and the damper is closed I prop it open, write my name in the snow, then use a pallet jack to bring over my IBC tote full of nice dry wood and start chucking. My school teacher neighbor had one just before me, he said that's cheating lol.

[@HomesteadJay]

Hahahah "write my name in the snow" LOL I cant wait to build a shed over my boiler haha

[@HomesteadJay]

IBC are cool but I dont have the machine to move them!

[@johnp3427]

Fully agree. Not the three letters business 😂

[@HomesteadJay]

Hahah yupp!

[@hillbillyfranks]

You're right Jay I put everything in my boiler I got an Older boiler Central It works great I bought a couple years Or no It works great I'd like to say I put everything in it I'm not picky Have a good day stay safe stay Healthy Catch on another one

[@HomesteadJay]

Thanks Frank!

[@jasonflaty]

I’ve burned firewood my whole life. We built a new home and went from a Clayton add on furnace to a wood boiler. I was not sure about even going to the boiler all together but you can never beat the heat from firewood. Anyway I was doing research just like you trying to figure out what in my opinion was the best boiler on the market. I was really considering a portage and main but came across crown royal stoves. I have a 7400MP that I’m currently just heating around 5000 square feet and hot water for bathing and such. I want to build a barn and do radiant heat eventually. The MP boilers from crown royal are supposedly epa compliant but are still somewhat old school. Just like you I burn anything that I can pick up and throw in the front door without breaking my back. Only cleaning I have to do is the top part with a hoe to just scrap out the multi pass part of the boiler. Super easy and only takes about 5 minutes.

[@HomesteadJay]

I keep hearing about the MP crown royals! If I cant get a classic again or run into issues Id consider maybe that style unit

[@shayn4220]

Merry Christmas

[@HomesteadJay]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well! Hope both went great!

[@williamhowey2151]

hay JAY, I agree with you love my classic 2009 CL- 5036. I can burn fresh cut wood pine it doesn't matter I can burn it. I don't want that new one where you have to dry all your wood. I'm in Michigan.

[@HomesteadJay]

Preach on!

[@sodhog6311]

Better be careful Big Brother might be watching your channel! Let's see i had one neighbor tell me he was out working with his sawmill one day and two ladies from the EPA walked up his driveway just to make sure he wasn't burning garbage in his outdoor wood boiler. Another neighbor told me the local government was going to mandate that all wood boiler owners ( even phase I ) had to burn split seasoned hard wood. Like, what are the police going to come in and inspect your wood pile every week? That proposal fell thru.

[@HomesteadJay]

Hahah oh man if big brother is watching my channel thats wasted tax dollars lol go do something productive HAHAH. Thanks for tuning in!

[@davegrimm9091]

I am what I am 🔥🔥🔥

[@buildlife]

If I couldn't put junk in my boiler I wouldn't have any wood! I've got all the things for fire wooding, 12-15 chords a winter for 12,000 square ft. plus hot water doesn't seem un reasonable. If I did 8-10 in a gassifier I would have a hard time coming up with that much pretty wood LOL. Merry Christmas Jay!

[@HomesteadJay]

Haha exactly the wood savings isnt worth it since your like me and we have junk wood to burn LOL Merry Christmas Steve and Happy New Year!

[@BenedictSawmilling]

We had to buy a gasification unit because NY had forbidden all others. The EPA and NY conveniently forgets that the prep for the wood takes a toll on emissions as I run the splitter. Apples to apples, the gasification boiler burns less wood but I wonder if the total emissions are even less, overall! It's like the new paints-they are better for the environment but aren't as good, so you have to re-paint more often. Makes sense to some but not to me.

[@HomesteadJay]

Im convinced at a 40% wood savings (running a gasser) you will use more Time/fuel to make cleaner dryer wood! I barely run my splitter for classic wood. I couldnt imagine splitting 8 cords for a gasser...

[@brookdorflinger9070]

I agree I’m old school

[@HomesteadJay]

Thats how I was raised!

[@holler8594]

I live in Northern Mn. Where the classic boilers are made.. they are good boilers. The new gasification boilers they say are 50% more efficient... but do they say 50% more then what type. I have a smaller classic on nicer weather you can load it and it will last 24hrs. People say with the gasification boilers they run best if you only put enough in to last 12 hrs any more and it doesnt run properly.

[@HomesteadJay]

Im just not sold. I burn so much ugly seasoned wood it would be counter productive for me to pass up that wood and also split EVERY piece. I dont split anything under 6 inches and anthing larger than 6 inches I split to handle and not bust a nut moving it or feeding into boiler. The thought of having perfect wood even 40% less is to me the same amount of work in the long run. I burn a lot of wood that would other wise go to a land fill... I dont know about you but burning it seems better then letting it sit and rot...

[@stephenniese2541]

👍

[@jimmieburleigh9549]

It's my understanding with the new gasification boilers you can burn all that stuff you will just be maintaining it more cleaning those baffle plates more often.

[@HomesteadJay]

Some say that yes but still clean as a whistle they still struggle with green wood

[@jimmieburleigh9549]

@@HomesteadJay then you got you back side trick.

[@mosquitok833]

Nailed it Jay. I love my 6048. We own a large area of woods so we have mostly red oak for the burner. But we also have a ton of other wood that we can burn. Our motto? “We burn everything”. Question, 4 year degree in criminal justice but you didn’t go into LE? Just curious. Thank you for the videos brother.

[@HomesteadJay]

I did for a bit. I worked for a county PD for a year, also worked for sig saur firearms, I was going full speed in that direction but then wife and family pulled me out of it. I kinda miss it but kinda dont at the same time.

[@mosquitok833]

30 year retired PD lieutenant. I love being out of the biz.

[@HomesteadJay]

Wow no doubt! Thanks for your service my friend

[@gusswenson7811]

Good evening Jay Merry Christmas to you and your family oh and Homestead Jim.. I couldn’t agree with you more… Stand your ground… Who cares if you piss any one off.. Who cares…. Go 603…

[@f150bft]

Homestead Jim?

[@HomesteadJay]

Hey Gus! I dont care at all LOL I do and say as I please when it comes to this topic haha live free or die is the motto after all! Go 603!

[@truckdriver7721]

Hey Jay. You're like me. As someone who has done some research also. I would prefer what you have versus the new classic edge. Simply because it is hooked up to the internet. Thats why I'm sold on crown royal. For the simple reason. Easy to clean. The down side is loading the thing ywice a day 😡 As far as spliting my wood. It doesn't matter to me. Even if i had what you have now or a new one. I'd still split my wood.

[@HomesteadJay]

Indeed! I agree with you there!

[@countryroadslife]

I looked at boilers at Paul Bunyan this year. They had coal burning ones basically you buy a coal burning one but you can burn wood. They operate the same as the older style boilers to my understanding. There are several 3 letter agencies I am in disagreement with…EPA, FBI, ATF….lol Live Free or Die

[@HomesteadJay]

Rock on brother! Hope you had a great Christmas and New Year!

[@HomesteadJay]

I keep hearing about coal boilers so thats deff something ill dive into!

[@jefffunkhouser2773]

The epa is fucking everything up for everyone I got my outdoor stove in 2015 and got it in 2018 I got it in 2015 before it went up

[@HomesteadJay]

Glad you got it before it went up!

[@RangerRage69]

It sure is nice being able to burn whatever you want. I don’t think I would ever want a new style boiler either.

[@HomesteadJay]

I try to burn seasoned wood of course but I dont want to have a machine that "forces" me to have perfect wood. Id take conveience over efficency anyday

[@bcltoys]

What ever floats your boat.

[@rustyford3266]

I'm on the same page as you!!! What happened to being FREE Why split and stake everything

[@HomesteadJay]

Sounds exhausting lol

[@welderman1221]

Not a child!!! YER AN AMERICAN!!!!

[@HomesteadJay]

Rock on!

[@TheRussellStover]

Coal boilers might be what you're looking for. I mean if you can't "afford coal or can't get it" (lol) then you need to do what you need to. They are still allowed by the EPA oddly enough. Also, you could connect a system (doesn't matter what it is) to the network at home and not put a gateway in. That system will never get on the internet because it doesn't know how to get to it.

[@ml4te5ch4]

Coal can be taxed so it makes sense they would allow it lol

[@HomesteadJay]

Imagine that? You can burn coal but these boilers are banned LOL sure nice work EPA LOL

[@HomesteadJay]

I keep hearing the "muilti fuel" buzz words so that may be an option when the time comes!

[@franksprague7550]

I don't disagree with yuour thinking on the gassification units and the old non-EPA units, having operated both. That being said we have a neighbor who still has an old unit, we are subjected to an incredible amount of smoke due to prevailing winds. As long as the smoke from the old unit does not affect the quality of life for those nearby, have at it. Convenience for some should not make life miserable for others.

[@davidfritz4986]

I have the 6048 and wouldn't use anything else

[@HomesteadJay]

Preach!

[@henryholliday1]

I agree with not wanting the new epa crap, worst comes to worst I say learn to weld good and make your own wood boiler. They are completely banned where I live in New York but I live on Long Island New York so it is all suburbs and I am currently looking to move to New Hampshire to have more freedom from the government

[@HomesteadJay]

Youll never look back brother. Move out of anything near a city. NH is the live free or die state (for now) untill these morons TRY to mess that up with these bizare laws and rules.

[@mikemoeller7059]

Buy a multipass

[@jasonflaty]

I also have a crown royal 7400mp. I love it. Heating 5000 sq/ft and hot water for showers and such.

[@user-vl1co4tj6o]

Jay I have a CB 760 HDX (Gasser) and it is hands down easier and better than my conventional Crown Royal I burned for 12 years. I do not always burn seasoned small split wood… most of the time I burn 20-25 percent moisture wood and I also put large 15 inch rounds on the top of the load and they burn just fine. I have even had a 3 day burn last year when I filled it almost full. I really like the fireStar app also so I can see what’s going on at all times. If you don’t trust the internet don’t hook it up it still runs fine.

[@HomesteadJay]

Thanks for sharing your feedback! Glad you like your machine!

[@hudsonvaganis7855]

I disagree I had the old one and now have the edge 760 for the 3rd year now. I think the new boiler is better. Because I can see it from my phone. And yes they are a little pickey but you don’t have to split it small as long as it’s dry. Plus the new ones are stainless steel

[@hudsonvaganis7855]

Just to add to the. As far as some coming out there is absolutely nothing vs the 6048 sometimes would completely smoke everything out

[@GeneralBeefDip]

INKBIRD makes a grill temperature probe that connects to the wifi. You can put the probe on the inlet water line and watch the stove burn like the new ones. Shows instant data plus historical data.

[@HomesteadJay]

Glad you like the new one! Im fine with that style machine but just dont want it lol

[@HomesteadJay]

I love the classic ROLLS out the chimney LOL

[@brianr5874]

Don't let the keyboard warriors dictate your free speech. Just say what you feel and I bet you'll find most people agree. I have an 18 year old classic still going strong and there's zero chance it will be replaced with something connected to the grid.

[@HomesteadJay]

Preach on!

[@DanishSpeakerChannel]

Gasification is better, less wood and less harmful emissions. At least for absolutely everyone here in Europe 😁

[@HomesteadJay]

Sure and thats great but I dont want to deal with it. I want convience over efficency

[@DanishSpeakerChannel]

@@HomesteadJay those outdoor gasification boilers are horrible, but the indoor ones from Atmos are super easy to clean you just pull a handle to clean smoke channels and empty ashes thats it

[@HomesteadJay]

I have nothing against gassification tech. Matter of fact if I did a wood stove inside id get the most advanced gassification/catalytic stove I could cause I know im only burning premium wood inside. The wood boiler can eat the junk haha @@DanishSpeakerChannel

[@Dogsout78]

You could have had a 10 second video with just the comment "I want the convenience and NOT the efficiency" This is from a person who just bought a new Classic HDX 560 after running a non gasser for the last 12 years.

[@HomesteadJay]

How do you like the unit compared to the old?

[@HomesteadJay]

I have nothing against them, I think its a cool concept and really cool how you get every BTU out of every log but I just dont want one lol

[@Dogsout78]

2 1/2 months in the jury is still out. Learning curve for sure. Can say that the claims of 50% to 60% less wood hasn't held true. But fairly sure that mine is coming in around 30% to 40% less wood. Check with me in April and I will have a better handle on it.@@HomesteadJay

[@arnejahr3531]

So why are you getting a new one . Life span is 20 25 years. I got a new 560 edge tier 2 epa approved it heats better but it's more maintence. It's a trade off. I don't care about the epa approved either I just want efficacy

[@HomesteadJay]

Im not getting a new one lol just talking about what I want (another classic) when this one dies!

[@woodhoundbug4697]

Check and see if you have a grandfather rights in your state.

[@HomesteadJay]

I know the state cant "make me" not use ( since its grandfathered) it but not sure if I can legally buy and replace it with same one idk. Id have to dig into it.

[@VegasEdo]

Forget the buzz words, forget the oversight. Companies are being held to a higher standard and the result is a cleaner, more efficient burn. How does that help you? That is the only question you need to answer. For me, that answer is 25-40% more efficient burns. That is 25-40% less wood I need to acquire and process. That is 25-40% less wood I need to throw into the stove. That is what a more efficient stove does for me. The only part of the wood that burns is the evaporated gas. If that fuel gas goes out the chimney, that is effort you wasted and cannot benefit from. If you are old enough to know the crap smog that every car spewed in the 80's and before, you quickly learn to appreciate a few of the EPA oversights. Cars today are cleaner and we are better for it. Same for wood stoves, you can't even see the exhaust from my wood stove and it's great, all that fuel was burned heating my home.

[@HomesteadJay]

Ive argued this 6 ways to sunday you may burn 40% LESS wood lets say 6 cords versus 10 but the 6 cords of wood you burn you are going to put MORE effort into making perfect wood versus I can get a grapple load of 10 cords and cut them up into 24 inch sections and im done. No splitting no extra work. Im gonna make a video on this so stay tuned. Im not against the gasser stove/boiler. Im against the ones that MAKE you burn clean split stick wood and WONT burn anything thats green. I have seen several of whats called "mechanical gassification" stoves that I would 100% buy because its a mechanical process and NOT a computerized system... My main point was being FORCED to burn clean split wood in a computer controlled machine was not my cup of tea. I want simplicity. Less moving parts the better.

[@Glogalog]

Just buy a coal boiler and burn wood

[@HomesteadJay]

Thats an option!

[@johnmills186]

Perhaps your problem is to much talk radio.

[@HomesteadJay]

Thats got nothing to do with the topic LOL

[@Barton_Motors_Ltd]

Heatmor. Oldschool, reliable Amazing warranty love mine

[@HomesteadJay]

Love it!