My Discord Debate with Muslims on Rebekah's Age at Her Marriage to Isaac

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[@Bendover-u5m]

How did you come up with the age of 20? I read the book of Jubilees, but I did not see any verses about the age of birth or the age of Marriage? can you give me the verses, and how did you come up with the age of 20?

[@SentinelApologetics]

In Jubilees, we read that: 1. Year 2002 Rebekah is born. 2. Year 2027 Rebekah is married. 3. Year 2046 Rebekah gave birth. 4. Year 2157 Rebekah died. So, 25 years old (or 20 years old with a minor textual variant) at marriage, and 44 years old when giving birth. The year "2002" is derived when she says "I die now at 155" in year 2157.

[@sasa_sasa_sasa230]

​​​​​@@SentinelApologeticseven in Olam Rabah 1 original variant is that she had 14 hahah, European manuscript was contaminated by addition in Tosefat Sefarim 1-4 from 8th century and scribe who copied Olam Rabah misscribed that addition from Tosefat (work from 8th century and pay attention that have addition in ot even later) Yakov Eden, famous Jewish rabbie admit that. By the way, muslim's sons of satan lied about translation 😂 By the way, Rebecca was called:Betulah/Almah/Narah which in Bible Always means girls that past puberty. Start adolescence and can born a child also a Chickuni comentary on Genses said that!

[@Tar-Elenion]

@@SentinelApologetics Alternatively: Book of Jubilees 35:6 has Rebekah at age 155 when she dies. The next chapter has Isaac dying 5 years later at 180 (36:18), so Isaac was 175 when Rebekah was 155. This means Rebekah was 20 when she married 40 year old Isaac.

[@sasa_sasa_sasa230]

​@@SentinelApologeticsbro this Muslim sons of satan lied, first with opinion Rebecca was 3 was Rashi and i explained why, also same Rashi called her Narah which means that by rabinic standard she was at least 12.-5 years+ one year more to wait between bethrowal ans marriage so she was at least 13.5 years+ puberty old by same Rashi. Why he said she was 3? Two options: his grandson Rasbam said he wrote Torah explanation in alegorical manner, Second: he believed in some Rabbinic legends that said that patriarchs like Terah Abraham's father, Abraham, so probably also a Rebecca, grand doather of Tearah, doather of Abraham's brother were super human and developed much faster. They believed that Terah was a giant, Abraham with 8 was already grown up man ect. So they probably also believed same stuff for Rebecca because look in their sagas she lived also like 2 times longer than usual man.

[@chrisoakey9841]

jubilee is usually the 7th week/ year, or 50 years. so 49 weeks? i think not. 21, sounds possible, or 150.

[@ReflectionsofChristianMadman]

A three-year old carrying enough water to water all the camels of Abraham’s servant is nothing short of miraculous. It would be dozens of gallons this toddler was sprinting around with.

[@Undomielllllll]

“I will love you for the sake of Jesus, but you’re still a creep.” Rob ate with that one. These guys are so insufferable. God bless you for your patience and willingness to dialogue with them despite their inadequacies.

[@sasa_sasa_sasa230]

They are sons of satan. So much lies, sorry that i wasn't there 😅

[@DingoNovember]

“3 year old is the opinion of majority of scholars” what scholars you ask? Abdool scholars of cause😂

[@mariongranbruheim4090]

20:11 “Rebecca was 3! But I can’t give you explicit documentation for it!” ≈ _Abdools._ BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!‼️ (21:54.)

[@DingoNovember]

Very Abdool of him to say that😂😂😂

[@lahleholivia7398]

She is referred to multiple times as Almah. This word is also used to describe Moses sister. It is used to describe young women not children

[@sasa_sasa_sasa230]

She was called Betulah/Narah/Almah which on Torah always means minimum of girs that past puberty, start adolescence and can born a child.

[@sdsouz]

Great job, Rob! I loved your energy!

[@undevelopmentteam]

This looked fun and frustrating. They almost won't engage with you unless you do it this way.

[@mariongranbruheim4090]

19:01 I’m doing my best concerning the “the English language”, but no Bible in any of the languages I speak says that “Rebecca hauled waters for a flock of thirsty camels, welcomed Abraham’s entourage to her home and got married at 3”. 😼🤣

[@mariongranbruheim4090]

So: *NO!!! I DON’T “agree”* that the woman described in the Scriptures was “3 years old” when she accepted the marriage proposal given via the servant of Abraham!!

[@asdiciple]

Rob is too patient with these Muslims 😂

[@SINQUEFIELD83]

When a Muslim claims to understand your position and says they are listening. Ask them to repeat back the position. I would guesstimate that 95% of the time, the Muslim will fail to comprehend what is being said in the very topic y'all are discussing. And I'd guess 80% can't even repeat the last sentence you just said

[@lileveyc]

I would say this is a classic example of Muslim Eisegesis, but that would imply they looked into the text to formulate their argument. But no some later Rabbis said it so we’re gonna roll with it as fact.

[@bluebible1199]

🤣lol fax

[@Johnathan_Porkinstein]

They're so dishonest and bad faith

[@KaydenMinistry]

jeez bro this debate was just interrupting you need to do private moderated debates on discord when i hear everybody interrupting each other

[@allahslittlehelper]

beautiful

[@undevelopmentteam]

I like how that one guy is trying to teach Hebrew wrong. I don't know but a tiny, insignificant amount of the language and I know what he's getting wrong. He makes it too obvious because he won't stop saying "definite article" when you can see the term in Exodus is appiled to the word "Her".

[@SINQUEFIELD83]

Do Muslims trust other Muslims? I am genuinely curious. As a rational man, if I saw my brother being deceitful to someone else, even if I disliked the other person, I would become hesitant to trust anything my brother says.

[@lylyscuir]

If I were Muslim, I wouldn't trust other Muslims. Being deceitful isn't limited to their apologetics, either. Muslims are allowed to lie if it conceals a sin (since confessing a sin to another is a greater sin in Islam than lying), which effectively gives them free reign to lie all they like, even to other Muslims.

[@malcolmlayton2050]

Invincible ignorance is one of Allah's attributes

[@vanuaturly]

What a frustrating bunch.

[@armourofgod6310]

the scripture says ''young WOMAN''

[@r.nunezz]

Man is a soldier, took down each objection and it was like 20V1

[@vanuaturly]

"The vast majority of scholars" 😂😂😂

[@Furinkazan541]

By majority, he means Muslim imams desperately coping

[@UnknownsoldieroftheLORD]

@@vanuaturly Sheik google is the vast majority of scholars 🤣🤣🤣 "the first 10 links" 🤣🤣🤣

[@Furinkazan541]

​@@UnknownsoldieroftheLORD Just for fun, I Googled that, and what do you know! All of those links were saying she wasn't three!

[@UnknownsoldieroftheLORD]

@@Furinkazan541 that is to be expected, nobody reading Genesis will think she is 3 unless you have other motives

[@Furinkazan541]

​@@UnknownsoldieroftheLORDThe best part is that their only source is one Rabbi who lived almost 2000 years after Rebecca that everyone disagreed with

[@wwitness]

The fact that this even needs to be debated in the first place is ridiculous 😂

[@funbro99]

I do love that within 5 sec, we get mod abuse. And thats ignoring context of said debate. Discord be something.

[@uhh6785]

they literally fail the logic, and logical consistency, check- EVERYTIME

[@uhh6785]

when you ask for something, it's all "one second.. one second.. **stupid "point" while committing a series of fallacies**"

[@f10pped36]

@@uhh6785 genuinely shows how demons can blind someone even if you spell it out for them. All we can do is pray for them

[@sonya6491]

The script was perfectly recited well done muslims.

[@HeinPretorius]

Only one person can really be heard at one time. This talking over each other is not how people listen. No one can focus on multiple people talking over each other. This video is a disaster. I got as far as 4:39 and now I’m moving on. The host should be the one to regulate the discussion ONE AT A TIME.

[@annemurphy9339]

This is a profoundly problematic and false claim.. The holy Bible, the only authoritative source, repeatedly calls Rebekah a young woman in Genesis: Abraham’s directive to his servant is to find a young woman for Isaac’s bride, & the servant inquires for direction if the young woman doesn’t want to go with him. The mission’s objective is clear that the servant is to find a young, unmarried woman for a bride. Rebekah was able to shepherd flocks, a dangerous job no toddler could perform, and she was mature enough to be able to discuss the proposal of marriage with her family and to decide for herself whether or not to accept. She was physically strong and able to perform an adult female’s chore of drawing water from the well for Abraham’s servant and all ten of his camels. Based on the amount of water a camel can hold, Rebekah drew well over 5,000 pounds of water to accomplish this task. Rebekah was clearly a young adult.

[@sasa_sasa_sasa230]

She was called: Betulah/Almah/Narah which always in Torah means at minimum girl that past puberty and started early adolescence and can born a child. Even rabbie Chickuni admitted that (famous Jewish rabbie from 12th century)

[@yayorandel6048]

In no world is 6 years old mature in anyway.

[@benjaminnomba1226]

Show us!!!

[@sasa_sasa_sasa230]

It's interesting when Abdul said: it's literally in your Bible written that Isac married Rebekah when she was 3 years old 😅. Where? Show me the Verse. 😂😂😂

[@faithgurl08]

It's in Lies 66:6

[@christianpatriot7196]

I appreciate the efforts of these type of conversations, but boy I’m beginning to get annoyed and irritated by this type of dialogue through these forms because there’s never any order and constant over talking one another and just a mess Perhaps the older I get the easier it is for my patients to wear thin lol

[@1971AEDWARDS]

Genesis 24:19-20, how can a 3 year old water camels?

[@TUGxbubu]

The top link in google is Reddit keep that in mind lol

[@yayorandel6048]

What verse says she was 3?

[@aidashitaye]

If Rebekah was three when Issac married him, I would say he was wrong. Muslims your podo momo married Aisha when she was nine can you say momo was wrong. Muslims use your mind. You can do that.

[@TUGxbubu]

@@aidashitaye you know whats crazy to me thats even more funnier Is that AISHA HERSELF WROTE THE HADITH Wich makes muhammad case even more worst cause not only the victim record it and confirm it She even wrote that allah allowed it Hahahahahaha Muslims are a bunch of P3dos hahahhahahahaha

[@Capt.Kasuko]

So much fallacies from these Muslims, red-herrings, shotgunning multiple points so he can avoid addressing 1 point at a time.