If turning knobs changes the sound then even though passive, the circuit is affecting the sound. Passive circuit do so all the time. But the job of the speaker wire is to transmit the energy from the amp to the speaker as accurately as possible.
@jakeross85335 ай бұрын
The function of this speaker table is to create an interface between the amp and the speaker
@glenncurry30415 ай бұрын
@@jakeross8533 IOW actively changing the signal.
@AbsoluteFidelity5 ай бұрын
The most basic 3 band equalizer does more and will make more difference than this POS box could ever do. Anyone wants to challenge this statement and try it out in a blind listening test?
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Nope
@AbsoluteFidelity5 ай бұрын
@@jaysaudiolab Yup, thought so. The results of the blind listening test will destroy everything you have preached in a blink of an eye, including the business you are trying to establish. Not many people dare to put money on what they claim. This is the definition of snake oil
@tuathadedanann1955 ай бұрын
@@jaysaudiolab I would be interested in this test outcome
@AbsoluteFidelity4 ай бұрын
@@jaysaudiolab after a month, and still no evidence, however thin it might be. Pfffffft. Keep living in lalaland
@AudioGuyBrianАй бұрын
I'm gonna try to sell a 50 pound lead weight to Jay that I will tell him that if he puts it on the top of his speakers, the soundstage will simply explode into realism. He will buy these weights for at least $200,000 each. LOL.
@tuathadedanann1955 ай бұрын
They use cheap wire from the instruments to the recorder in the studio so this is crazy. Noone can hear a difference even in a $1m system in a double blind test and the explanations provided by cable companies for why their products work defy the known laws of physics. Decent quality cable and connector is all you need. Anyone paying over $100 a cable for that is out of their mind. I asked for a demo of two cables in a hifi shop once. After the retailer swapped the cable he blocked my view of the preamp and "accidentally"jogged the volume dial up and then said it sounded more dynamic with the new cable. Unfortunately the volume was visible on the led display and so I noticed the increased setting and asked him to restore the volume to the prior level at which point the extra "dynamics" dissapeared and it sounded exactly the same as before. When challenged he couldn't point out any difference at that point. This example plus the huge markup on cables tells you everything you need to know. I once had a hifi shop refuse to even give me a dem when i refused to agree to spend 40% of my budget on cables before I came to the shop. Nuff said. If you have toadd components then it is no longer a cable it is an lcr fil;ter or a zobel network etc.
@razisn5 ай бұрын
That's not a cable, that's a passive equaliser similar to your speaker crossover. It should cost a couple of hundred $ in parts even with the most expensive parts in it. It has capacitors, inductors and resistors in it.
@supercompooper5 ай бұрын
You do know it's just a passive equalizer inside it right? Maximum $200 in parts maximum.
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Many theories out there but that’s all they are…
@davidcross8905 ай бұрын
@supercompooper And where do you supposedly derive your supposed knowledge of this from? I ask because what you state in your comments regarding this product is BLATANTLY FALSE
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt5 ай бұрын
Where do you derive your supposed knowledge from? You're just making shit up and wouldn't stand up in any court except the ones with kangaroos.
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt5 ай бұрын
@@davidcross890 Are you aware that "supposed" used twice in the same sentence is awkward, redundant and makes no sense. You can't derive knowledge that is supposed nor can you supposedly derive actual knowledge.
@EnpuerKT5 ай бұрын
Sorry dude, hifi caps average at $600 each, that box is loaded with premium parts.
@cyrilchou8945 ай бұрын
Have a friend that has the ACC268 + MA Oracle interconnects. These cables were developed with Spectral Audio components in mind due to frequency response with the articulation poles. If you want ultra high definition, check out that pairing. Goodwin's High End in Waltham, MA has an excellent reference setup paired with Wadax level 3
@TheGrandPumma5 ай бұрын
This why I subscribed in the first place -- This is THE PLACE for highend audiophile reviews Keep up the good work Jay!
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
@TheBodhisattvaWisdomthank you
@a.s.24265 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@artyfhartie22695 ай бұрын
The box is heavy because they use a special sand and rocks only found in the desert of Peru
@chipsnmydip5 ай бұрын
It might actually have something like quartz sand for vibration damping, and/or ferrous minerals like Shunyata cables do.
@artyfhartie22695 ай бұрын
@@chipsnmydip My silly comment could be actual fact. Amazing
@RennieAsh5 ай бұрын
@@chipsnmydip Ferrous materials? Don't tell Danny at GR Research lol
@chipsnmydip5 ай бұрын
@@RennieAsh Sorry, I mean ferrite, or ferrite-like minerals.
@daveuk13245 ай бұрын
@@chipsnmydip Moon dust 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@rayskillings75065 ай бұрын
Many years ago I worked at a professional audio company that sold high end recording equipment. Everything from 24 track tape machines, mixing consoles, microphones, amplifiers , speakers, sound processing gear ect. We sold the best of the best audio equipment. Super expensive cables started to come to market. We took them and did double blind testing. Nobody could tell the difference between the oxygen free copper cables and the new silver cables. Professional sound engineers couldn’t tell any difference between $100 and $10,000 cables. Adding rf chokes made a difference but cable materials didn’t matter as long as you used same gauge size. When people knew what cables were used most said the expensive cables sounded better.
@clemmtec95065 ай бұрын
Thank for sharing that ., I tried 99% silver cable and oxgen free cable I could not really tell the difference to I went back to the copper cable, and that sound good.
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt5 ай бұрын
How can we take what you say seriously when you spell "new" instead of "knew?" My over 45 years of experience with high performance gear tells me otherwise.
@jakeross85335 ай бұрын
It sounds like you sold studio equipment. Studio equipment is seldom audiophile level. I doubt it was anywhere near the level of Jay's system.
@rayskillings75065 ай бұрын
@@jakeross8533 It is hard to compare older gear to new equipment. I do not think it is the wire that is improving his system. I am sure that their has been vast improvements made over the years to audio gear. How can you say that the equipment used to record the media that you are listening to is inferior to the equipment it is played on? Have you heard the new pressing of Steely Dan UHQR? I believe it is the box that is altered the sound that is making it more pleasing to him not the composition of the wires.
@rayskillings75065 ай бұрын
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt He asked for opinions I have given mine and supplied the reason why I believe that there is no detectable difference. You offer insults and stated that you have listened to music for 45 years. Have you ever done a blind listening test between same gauge oxygen free copper and expensive wires? If so you have a right to express your research. No need to attack me Jay asked for everyone to respond why so hostile?
@daveearnshaw68745 ай бұрын
I have used MIT cables for over 15 years.Started originally with there non networked cables and liked the sound and have upgraded progressively to there mid tier interconnect and speaker cables, which has cost approximately 20% of the value of my audio system.Money well spent.
@howardskeivys41845 ай бұрын
I used to think that expensive/exotic cables were pure snake oil/bull shit until:- one sunny Saturday in September, I was browsing my local ‘high end’? boutique, hi-fi retailer who were having a closing down sale. The 3rd closing down sale they’d had that summer! I noticed a 6 feet long, solid silver power cable reduced from $85000 to $5000. I bought it on a whim. Well actually I bought it on my AMEX platinum card, but that’s another story. I took it home and after being battered by the wife, I used that $85000 solid silver power cable to connect my 1800 spin speed Miele washing machine to the mains outlet. The difference it made were absolutely phenomenal. The machine heated the water up to the desired temperature in a fraction of the time. Yeh, what used to take it 20 minutes now takes 19 minutes and 54 seconds.thats a massive saving of 6 seconds. I’ve calculated that in 1001 years, I will have recouped that $5000 outlay in energy savings. Now, when that Miele washing machine reaches its maximum spin speed of 1800 rpm, it is 2.5db quieter, is much smoother and no longer dances around my utility room, though I attribute that to the cables binding qualities, not it’s electrical properties. The caveat, because there is always a caveat:- my teenage daughter used to derive great pleasure from sitting astride that machine as it reached maximum spin speed. That damned exotic cable has denied her that basic, primal pleasure! I went back to that store and purchased the identical power cable. I used it to connect my Roksan CD trans to the mains outlet. I was bitterly disappointed. My CDs still spun at 1080rpm. My teenage daughter was even more disappointed. We thought that if we could get the CD transport up to 1800rpm it might just vibrate sufficiently to restore her will to live. The moral of this story:- $85000 invested in exotic cables, will not make a notable improvement to your hi-fi, or your daughter’s goal of primal satisfaction.
@MrChaggy1235 ай бұрын
I have not tester these mit cables but other cheaper models and it’s some of the best cables I tried. The best I’ve heard is from renaissance audio in Bergen Norway. He makes silver cables in an oil for microphonis excuse my English. But I love that you are reviewing speaker cables, no one else is doing it and cables are so important so thank you jay🙏🏻👍
@DBTAudio5 ай бұрын
Jay, one thing for sure, cables do make a difference. It’s been proven in my system and I was shocked, several times, at the difference in sound after swapping out different cables.
@everything7775 ай бұрын
Subjective experience is pretty far from "proven" my guy
@phetmoz5 ай бұрын
Proven for himself. Subjective experience doesn't weigh nothing, especially in audio where good sound to one can be unpleasant to another.
@RennieAsh5 ай бұрын
@@phetmoz Experience changes minute to minute with stuff like that. Even with speakers and those have real differences you can hear. With all the massive differences people claim the cables make, why are they not all in audio heaven now?
@Mark-lq3sb5 ай бұрын
@@phetmoz Exactly! Well said. For most people it's just the fact of a high priced audio item upsets them and it'll be immediately poo, pooed on, and then they proceed to tell you about the same product that does it for 1/25th the price. Like nobody knew the lower priced item existed, lol!
@BobbyDazzler8885 ай бұрын
For 100,000, i could start my own factory and start smelting pure gold cables sprayed with diamond sparkles and stuff.
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
You should probably do it …
@Coneman35 ай бұрын
That would give a regal sound.
@simeonmilevski77415 ай бұрын
these so call cables are total BS and robbing
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt5 ай бұрын
Do it and I'll pay for half that factory.
@spacejaime5 ай бұрын
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt - lest not forget that "Jay's Audio Labs" exists to push the limits of ultra-high-end audio, and I thoroughly enjoy it. While I think the price may be a bit over the top - the cable exists, it Is available on the market with the goal to reach levels of transparency and musicality at a different level...or not. With further listening, Jay will let us know.
@HD-Tech5 ай бұрын
100k... now we're just getting stupid. Very fine speakers AND cables could be had for that
@rayskillings75065 ай бұрын
One room at Axpona had $180,000 in speaker cables and TBD listed as price for the rest of the cables. Cost for the speakers, amplifiers and other gear was around $380,000. With no verified scientific evidence to show a difference in audio performance from expensive cables versus oxygen free copper cables it seems crazy to spend the money.
@acegolemi38185 ай бұрын
Was it the ZenSati room ?
@jakeross85335 ай бұрын
Jay: amazing review! Concise and packed with information. Really clear and informative! I'd love to know more about how these stack up against the Magnum Opus
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
More to come!
@charleslawson16715 ай бұрын
I don't consider this to be an audio review site. There is hardly any advice given out of any value. Jay seems to be more of a broker of hyper expensive audio gear of perceived top quality. Status and bling is king here. If that's your thing, here you are.
@daveuk13245 ай бұрын
Yeh - his latest is always his best - sales 101
@tallpaull93675 ай бұрын
Seriously overpriced
@supercompooper5 ай бұрын
I think they need some quantum stickers on them and some internal high frequency subgenerators to charge maybe an extra $100,000 don't you think?
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
It’s all relevant - whoever can afford it - will buy it
@jaysullivan95455 ай бұрын
Imo, I think a person can do as well overall and spend a lot less money.
@TheNoseman15 ай бұрын
They sell all they can make, so its convincing someone.
@philippec67925 ай бұрын
listened to these cables in Paris and it's true that they bring everything you said. Reserved for ultimate systems.
@nathanbell69625 ай бұрын
When are you going to run your own power off the grid?
@belfort7775 ай бұрын
Finally! Bring also Spectral system, and you'll be good.
@Coneman35 ай бұрын
Going active would be best solution. Cables like that in passive mode is like making a formula 1 diesel car.
@chipsnmydip5 ай бұрын
Obviously, we've got to hear it. If for no other reason, then as a reference point for other cables/gear.
@omgwtfpwnd4 ай бұрын
You CANNOT tell the difference in a blind ABX test. I’ve used AB switches with systems use ticks with each other. It’s prestige, nothing more nothing less!
@eddievega11005 ай бұрын
Man I can’t tell the difference between the Ol Radio Shack or Monster cable from the 80’s . If you have the ears to pick up the difference bless you. . My ears a semi shot .
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Don’t buy cables like this…
@RennieAsh5 ай бұрын
It's not really just a cable when it plugs into a box with additional parts. I'm sure it does something, but at $100k there's probably not a lot of people who can test it properly/dismantle
@tallpaull93675 ай бұрын
Quite hard to trust someone who keeps saying "I have to be honest..." Implies that you can be dishonest quite often
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
You don’t gotta be here … right ?
@tallpaull93675 ай бұрын
@@jaysaudiolab So true, I will unsubscribe
@philipteater37145 ай бұрын
@@tallpaull9367It is also a figure of speech and a habit. Often people mean, “I am being transparent with you concerning something sensitive”
@tallpaull93675 ай бұрын
@@philipteater3714 Yeah, it's a funny habit. It's ok, this moment made me realize that I really don't need to be here. I have no idea why I have been watching this content. Not like I'm in the market for this stuff. Unsubscribed and moved on.
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Awesome
@axelpalfy75972 ай бұрын
I had a lot of doubts about the effect of the cables on the sound, but I started building my speakers and it really doesn't matter what cables you use, I have cables costing about 600 dollars, I also changed the power cables and it works, but I have doubts about it that for more than 2 to 3 thousand there will still be some difference, and not at all for ten thousand,
@philippec67925 ай бұрын
I listened to these cables in Paris and it's true that they bring everything you said. Reserved for ultimate systems. Otherwise, Oracle shd 120’s are already working very well
@MajorisingTojoАй бұрын
An alternate angle shaping the debate is: are there design variation among amps and speakers the magnify speaker cable differences Absolutely, design variations among amplifiers and speakers can significantly magnify the perceived differences between speaker cables. Here are some key factors to consider: Amplifier Design: Impedance: An amplifier with a lower output impedance can be more sensitive to cable resistance, potentially amplifying the differences between cables. Power Output: Higher-power amplifiers may be less affected by cable resistance due to their ability to drive the speakers more forcefully. Design Philosophy: Some amplifiers are designed to be more sensitive to subtle differences in the audio signal, which can include variations introduced by different cables. Speaker Design: Sensitivity: Speakers with higher sensitivity require less power from the amplifier, making them more susceptible to cable-induced variations. Impedance: Speakers with varying impedance or those that are reactive (have both resistive and reactive components) can interact differently with different cables, leading to audible differences. Crossover Network: The design of the crossover network within a speaker can influence how it interacts with the cable, particularly in the high-frequency range. Cable Interaction: Capacitance: The capacitance of a cable can affect its interaction with the amplifier and speaker, particularly at higher frequencies. Inductance: The inductance of a cable can influence its impedance, which can impact the overall sound quality. Skin Effect: At high frequencies, the electrical current tends to flow along the outer surface of a conductor (the skin effect). This can influence the performance of cables, especially those with thicker conductors. In essence, the interplay between amplifier, speaker, and cable design can significantly influence the perceived differences between cables. It's important to consider these factors when evaluating the potential benefits of upgrading cables, as the results can vary widely depending on the specific components in your audio system. Yes, skin effect is a consideration with audio bandwidth. While audio signals typically do not extend into the very high frequencies where skin effect becomes most pronounced, it can still have a subtle influence on the overall sound quality, particularly in systems with very high-quality components and cables. Here's how skin effect can impact audio bandwidth: Higher Frequencies: As frequency increases, the electrical current tends to flow closer to the conductor's surface due to skin effect. This can lead to increased resistance and reduced signal transmission at higher frequencies, potentially affecting the clarity and detail of high-frequency sounds. Cable Design: The design of the cable can influence how skin effect impacts audio bandwidth. For example, using thicker conductors or employing techniques like litz wire (a type of conductor made up of many smaller strands) can help to mitigate skin effect and improve high-frequency performance. System Synergy: The interaction between the cable and other components in the audio system can also play a role. A cable with minimal skin effect may provide a noticeable improvement in a system with high-quality speakers and amplifiers that are sensitive to high-frequency detail. While skin effect may not be a major concern for most audio systems, it's worth considering, especially when dealing with high-end components and cables. By understanding the factors that contribute to skin effect and taking steps to minimize its impact, audio enthusiasts can potentially achieve even higher levels of sound quality.
@spacejaime5 ай бұрын
Didn't know MIT was still in business - no kidding - as they don't advertise for years. I stand corrected. Good to see them around. 👍👍
@jakeross85335 ай бұрын
Are you sure? I think I've seen their ads in absolute sound
@spacejaime5 ай бұрын
@@jakeross8533 - I'm sure I haven't seen their ads in years. Sure glad they are still in business. They have been around for decades.
@johnshaw3595 ай бұрын
Is that a mono box or do both channels connect to it.
@Error2username5 ай бұрын
So good to see BIG speakers in there, man if i had the money😊
@4YearOldPowerSinger5 ай бұрын
SO GLAD you're doing this review. There are NO video reviews on the internet that give us insights on the grail brands like Transparent & MIT. Thank you. Which one do you prefer?
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
You are so welcome!
@daveuk13245 ай бұрын
Won't say as he's selling both 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ericelmore8875 ай бұрын
Check out the stealth cables you can tune them to your liking and they’re a lot less expensive. From what your describing it Sounds like there’s a power conditioner built into that unit. Check out Puritan audio .
@KT88gs5 ай бұрын
I had Stealth in the past,one of the best!
@stevenmag4145 ай бұрын
This is a SNL skit….100K, lol
@davidcross8905 ай бұрын
What????
@barskuleli86124 ай бұрын
Some amps do the same thing via pressing the “loudness” button. Simple and cheaper… By the way, they are simple passive crossovers or passive equalisers, that’s all.
@Kharmaaudio5 ай бұрын
Go for it Jay, let’s hear a comparison between the cables.
@humanbass5 ай бұрын
Since you have lab in the name...could we get any kind of lab test?
@tuathadedanann1955 ай бұрын
I am an engineer and I do know. its a 25x markup and most of that is the box. It's filtering the treble thats all you can hear.
@philippec67925 ай бұрын
Maybe but Mit has industrial patents
@tuathadedanann1955 ай бұрын
@@philippec6792 in what? anyone can file a patent
@RennieAsh5 ай бұрын
@@philippec6792 You can patent stuff. Doesn't mean it does anything
@pizzaearthpancakesandother25495 ай бұрын
Could you show us the receipt for the purchase of the cables? We demand transparency in your audio journey. Thank you
@MikeAnderson3565 ай бұрын
A picture of these should be in the audio dictionary beside the words "complete insanity".
@justadad23045 ай бұрын
Sorry, that spot is already taken by a picture of Jay
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
@@justadad2304Agreed!
@DrBroncanuus5 ай бұрын
Jay, some good news those giant SF speakers make you look slim.....they were worth the $$$
@krzysztofgilowski17365 ай бұрын
Interesting point about how a lot of components might work by overblowing things over the point of accuracy. Cause in theory it would make sense and it would make a finanical sense for companies to do it. But in a sense most of things in hifi do this. This is why we dont use flat studio monitors as audiophiles, although they should be the most accurate in terms of frequency response. We all are aiming at our own preferred version of falsehood.
@watchin-stoof9883 ай бұрын
Damn, while I get price is relative; just because you can afford something doesn’t mean it’s not ridiculous. I could afford solid gold silverware but it doesn’t mean they’re any better for eating food.
@brown-eyedman40405 ай бұрын
You're a brave man, Jay, to talk about speaker cables. While my rig is orders of magnitude below yours, I don't have trouble hearing differences in cables. Thanks for keeping it real.
@RennieAsh5 ай бұрын
I have plenty of trouble hearing differences. What I have less trouble with is thinking I hear differences.
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@montycaps82355 ай бұрын
Fun review!! I’ve been a critic in the past but keep up the great work Jay !!!
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@Coneman35 ай бұрын
MIT have had very expensive cables for a long time.
@slawek68295 ай бұрын
Can i use them with My rotel and topping 90se...😁
@Coolesttech5 ай бұрын
I hate to state the obvious..... That is NOT. a speaker cable and I'm surprised you didn't challenge that. How is that even up for debate. It's a hardware device that you're installing between your amp and your speakers. It could be a filter, a crossover, an EQ or some combination of all of that.
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Im only reporting. Nothing else
@Coolesttech5 ай бұрын
So why aren't you stating the obvious? There's a difference between saying company X calls this a speaker cable and saying today I'm testing new speaker cables. The lack of objections to a clearly ridiculous characterization of this product as a "cable" is giving it credence. Call it an inline EQ or phase shifting device that ALTERS the signal to your personal taste, that's really what it is.
@davidcross8905 ай бұрын
Question for @Coolesttech...don't you think it would be wiser to genuinely understand and experience a set of unique performance technologies before you mischaracterize them recklessly?
@davidcross8905 ай бұрын
@@Coolesttech凸 Question for @Coolesttech...don't you think it would be wiser to genuinely understand and experience a set of unique performance technologies before you mischaracterize them recklessly?
@Coolesttech5 ай бұрын
@@davidcross890 this has nothing to do with experiencing the product, and I am certainly not the one mis-characterising it. The manufacturer, and by their silence, reviewers are trying to tell people that a hot dog is a hamburger, even though we can all plainly see what's right before our eyes. I have no problem with this device per se, but call a spade a spade and not a speaker cable, that's just disingenuous. What's gained by calling this component a speaker cable, maybe it's so that audiophile snobs who want purity of signal path won't be afraid to try it. Who cares, if you like what this component with speaker cables attached does for your sound then by all means go for it. Enough marketing mumbo jumbo and trying to be smart, it just looks dumb.
@dajikbatarang15 ай бұрын
100k tone control?
@adsph5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your observations so far Jay.
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@louv44375 ай бұрын
Jay have you found a specific cable brand that works well with Magico speakers?
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
My cable line - authentic audio image.
@louv44375 ай бұрын
@@jaysaudiolab thanks I will look into your website
@perfectsoundpursuit0075 ай бұрын
Yes Jay ! Very good explanations . I like to see that . All in the high end systems it's all abaut what we lose in sound with cables , not what we get .. This is our problems . We enjoy with what is possitive and immediate see negative happens with stage , perfection of sound .. This is never end , i know that . Very good video ! BR
@Coneman35 ай бұрын
Does it require 4 cables? 2 in, 2 out?
@ronsachs4 ай бұрын
Still waiting for your system review with Mits interconnects. Let go!
@tomdebeck81505 ай бұрын
Improvement on sound: Use 2 seperate and isolated cables in parallel; one pure copper cable and one silver plated copper cable
@j.m.harris42025 ай бұрын
Be Careful Jay, Lower Bias settings and Relaxed Music is for us Older Guys! 😉💪
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Noted!
@cuongong39765 ай бұрын
A mind is powerful thing
@36karpatoruski5 ай бұрын
Who could look themselves in the mirror spending only $80K on speaker cables? I’d have to hang my head in shame and never have any one over to listen knowing that I could have had the $100K or $120K version if I wasn’t such a pathetic cheapskate.
@rushgush5 ай бұрын
u wanna buy my “premium special gasoline “ for your car too? i only charge 1000 dollars a liter
@h1nicolas5 ай бұрын
Must be something like sand in there. Placing my speaker cables on the ground introduces more smearing giving a fuller sound, lifting them off the ground they are more clear and transparent. They say its passive, but I also wonder if there is a long life lithium thionyl chloride battery (15-20 year life) in there that conditions the dielectric relaxation of the cable like Audio Quest or similar that reduces smearing and opening the sound. But come on, that’s too much money.
@Coneman35 ай бұрын
Whatever your opinion, that fact this exists makes it interesting
@robertjermantowicz-uw3iw5 ай бұрын
Are the speaker cables extra?
@davidcross8905 ай бұрын
No they are included in these speaker cables
@牧園-m4xАй бұрын
What cable is it? MIT?
@markwilson52625 ай бұрын
hey how many times can we CLEAN THE WINDOWS lol it goes on
@stefanhooss28225 ай бұрын
Serious, they call their black box articulation center 😀😁😆😅😂🤣.
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Yep
@richardelliott83525 ай бұрын
well, they couldn't really call it the money absorber , could they?
@牧園-m4x5 ай бұрын
What brand is it?
@mormodog5 ай бұрын
These cables cost $99,970 more than mine 😂. My “budget” (to Jay) salon2 works great but maybe with better cables they might sound better.
@louisperlman80305 ай бұрын
How about an A-B video with the Authentic Imaging cables. Let everyone decide for themselves.
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
If I have the time, I will
@daveuk13245 ай бұрын
That is a great idea !!
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt5 ай бұрын
I'm ordering the Aliexpress version for $1,000.
@royli32605 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! Definitely interested in how this will pan out! As I may have previously mentioned comment-wise, I am unlikely to ever be in the game for such mortgage-cost components (I work in the NHS!) and wouldn't know where one could go to hear such high-end kit of the calibre you regularly feature on your channel to just listen (as I definitely can't afford to buy them!). Mind you, if I ever won the Euromillions lottery.....
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
You and me both!
@daveuk13245 ай бұрын
KJ in London. Tell them you are an Oligarch and they will fall over to give you a demo 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@LinasCameras5 ай бұрын
Thank you, Jay 🙏
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@henriksrensen32205 ай бұрын
Absolutely ridiculous price
@michaelmiller4735 ай бұрын
I don't know Jay, my whole system cost slightly more, than those cables and I have pure silver cables ,not nearly in the same league as you're gear, but at 125k it's good enough , anyway have fun with your system 👍
@OCDHIFiGuy5 ай бұрын
It's not a speaker cable, it's a component. Lol. Good idea though, as it may fix mismatched components for dealers and help them sell whatever is on hand. ;-) too sharp, just EQ it out using the speaker cable filter.. lol. Gotta love this stuff.. it's complete entertainment.
@RennieAsh5 ай бұрын
I find it funny that there are lots of people with money to spend on this stuff; surely you have to be somewhat smart to earn that much money?
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
@@RennieAshyep
@daveuk13245 ай бұрын
@@RennieAsh yes but combine that with OCD 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@imacdou66685 ай бұрын
I still waiting for tube speaker cables
@Johnny-Too-Bad5 ай бұрын
It's almost silly to call them cables no? this is passive EQ.
@daveuk13245 ай бұрын
Yeh, in the olden days we called it a tone control. EQ sounds better 🤣🤣🤣
@goranmatejak73755 ай бұрын
Hey Jay, you got a speakers that cost 300000 $ cables 100000 $ and rest of is i dont know, can you show us yours records and cd collection.
@travelworld95665 ай бұрын
$299 schiit lokius can do what this 100k cable could
@AbsoluteFidelity5 ай бұрын
And do it better.
@TheNoseman15 ай бұрын
Interesting to note: many years ago a cable company significantly raised its prices to attract the high end buyer, the idea being the higher price translated to better sound. They saw their sales skyrocket as a result. Was the cable that much better, made with better materials, such as silver? Nope. This started the trend of high price cables and when you boil it down, it is all wire and insulation with terminations many share from WBT or Furutech.....of all things in audio that could be suspect cables are it.
@daveuk13245 ай бұрын
All you have to do is look at the ICs and circuit boards in even top end gear like Jay's APEX. Tiny copper tracks 🤣🤣🤣
@danielesbordone18715 ай бұрын
If you say you heard a difference in sound , I can only take your word for it because cables of this price point are way above my head.
@tejkarangehlot47415 ай бұрын
Eagerly waiting for some beautiful gem in next video jay😊
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Very soon!
@jeromelester85 ай бұрын
I never heard somone complain about super expensive cars. Why should there be a limit in hi-end? There's nothing wrong with expensive gear in my opinion.
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Tell the others here
@davidcross8905 ай бұрын
Amen Brother as long as the design and performance warrants the exceptional price
@tuathadedanann1955 ай бұрын
@@davidcross890 Which these cables do not - its like painting a trike red and climbing it is a Ferrari 296
@Puroplatino5 ай бұрын
Are those the Sonus Faber Flagships “The Sonus Faber SE17?”
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Yes man
@Hi-EndAudioGuy5 ай бұрын
Obviously this thing is a passive EQ box that changes the frequency response of the cable. This is bad and will reduce fidelity. It's 50 lbs because there's a block of concrete inside. 🤣 This is audiophool product.
@RennieAsh5 ай бұрын
Depends on the frequency response of the speaker and room. It may actually make it better. But you can do the same with $1000 or less
@daveuk13245 ай бұрын
OMG Jay has discovered tone controls 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@davidcross8905 ай бұрын
Beyond myopic minded comment
@daveuk13245 ай бұрын
@@davidcross890 spoken by a non-engineer and hifi gear snob. Seen your previous comments - if it's expensive, it must be good. Dumb or what 😂😂😂😂
@davidcross8905 ай бұрын
A non degreed engineer who through my designs and products and companies generated 100's of BILLIONS of dollars in sales to most every country worldwide and have patents and IP in over 85 countries. So at least one of us can easily acquire the world's finest or design it and build it if it's not already made. Gear Snob....no I just don't have to live with or accept substandard gear...
@daveuk13245 ай бұрын
@@davidcross890 Yeh yeh. 100's of billions? Who were you? Sony? BS radar blinking RED.
@davidcross8905 ай бұрын
@@daveuk1324are you either so Napoleonic or too myopic and incapable of doing your own due diligence?
@brianelmhirst12835 ай бұрын
listening to you you give the impression that your hearing is far more acute and accurate than the average person in your age bracket.
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@richardelliott83525 ай бұрын
even the best hearing will invent a reality to satisfy expectations , just check how hearing tests incorporate scoring compensation for sounds reported that were not real. hearing is only subjective, a process of a mind without the ability for self awareness.
@RennieAsh5 ай бұрын
A lot of "hearing" is actually brain training and experience including less desirable psychological effects scientifically speaking. It works well for the fairytale though. For many people music seems to be this way and so breeds the furore of expensive audio gear
@tuathadedanann1955 ай бұрын
@@RennieAsh 75% of what we hear and see is actualy created by the brain. just look at any optical illusion to see how perception is limited and easily influnced by a perception.
@c7996515 ай бұрын
Jay what happened to the new MSB?
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Gone to my client. It wasn’t for the channel because I’ve already owned it before and did many videos with it.
@stevenburdick4245 ай бұрын
Is there 2 boxes. One for each channel? Yes, let's hear this special system.
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Two boxes
@kurthill70305 ай бұрын
Yes can't wait
@ianstorm455 ай бұрын
Preamp and amplifier is just for the purposes of amplification of signals from your media source” and your speaker cables only purpose is to transport that signal to your speaker without signal loss, it’s job is not to add or take away anything from the signal” so why these cables with such a simple requirement cost as much as some peoples house 🏡 I don’t get it 😮
@2013brzsubaruАй бұрын
I bet you the guys that put these cables together with passive parts in it are enjoying an expensive bottle of scotch and having a party everytime a set of these sell!
@StanThePigeon5 ай бұрын
Play some songs with those vs some entry level hifi cables
@johnmalone87905 ай бұрын
What's that saying? A fool and his money 🙄
@RennieAsh5 ай бұрын
The thing is, people buying this have tons of money. So how does the fool make their money? lol
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
@@RennieAshhahhahah
@jaysullivan95455 ай бұрын
Ok, good analysis. Especially about when the articulation controls are turned on. Does the Apex sound too warm and less incisive when in High bias on the MIT speaker cable?
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
Different feel. Too much of a good thing
@jaysullivan95455 ай бұрын
@@jaysaudiolab Yep. When I was a dealer for MIT back in the day, I thought MIT speaker cables were too warm and sounded better with cooler sounding amps. Which could explain why the Apex in low bias sounded better with the MIT speaker cables.
@daveuk13245 ай бұрын
@@jaysullivan9545 Yeh all those passive components sucking out the power and life - that's why he needs lower bias. It's basic electrical engineering🤣🤣🤣 🤣
@jjinglenuts5 ай бұрын
100k trying to fool rich people.
@chrispytelomeres98635 ай бұрын
I prefer my cheaper blue heaven cables, over my more expensive robin hood cables. With my system anyway.
@SweetCharity695 ай бұрын
Send the speaker cables to the real lab for review at ASR.
@jaysaudiolab5 ай бұрын
I could if you pay for them first ?
@josephpavel31505 ай бұрын
I’m not sure if I want these or a used Porsche more… actually I am pretty sure lol
@RennieAsh5 ай бұрын
And the Porsche will have more cable inside of it too ;p
@geminijinxies72585 ай бұрын
I don't doubt the cable works but why is it so expensive? Sure there's probably a long research and development time. Plus the market is kinda small.. but still?!