My Empire is doomed in Old World (Game Like Civ) - Wonders and Dynasties

[@lofilipeta]

If you think you don't have enough time to play the end game/military, I suggest you change the settings for victory. Instead of the winner be the first to reach a certain amount of victory points, you play the mode where you play 200 turns and who has most points at the last turn wins. This game, when you were talking about the lack of time to play with the military, I think you only played for circa 126 turns, if I am not mistaken. So you would have much more time to play if you changed the settings

[@trengilly01]

That was a fun lets play! Its great to see Old World get some attention. 🙂 Old World is designed around your nation being a newcomer in an established 'Old World'. The default settings have the AI starting with many cities . . . but no gameplay advantages. The world is intentionally unbalanced, some AI will have small empires and start weak and others will be large. It forces you play them off against each other via diplomacy until you nation is strong enough to partner with someone or take on a weaker AI yourself. Coalitions need to be formed to take on the strong AI. Its very different than Civ or most other 4x games that start everyone on an equal footing. The 'intended' victory condition for the player is achieving their 10 Ambitions. The point victory is mostly there for the AI to apply pressure on you. The Ambition victory represents your nation having 'made it' in the world and left a lasting legacy on world history. What I really enjoy about the Ambition victory is that it effectively lets you set your own victory conditions. What ambitions you get offered depends on what type of families you use and what playstyle you choose. The game is also better balanced around Yearly turns instead of Semesters. Yearly causes much higher leader turnover which resets opinion, changes alliances, and disrupts both you and the AI nations. Semesters provide a more static play and lead to more 'overpowered' leaders and yields. Semesters are usually used for specific 'historical' scenarios instead of the base game.

[@Caio22011]

Yeah, semesters gives leaders a big advantage, the thing is that the AI is usually broken good at using said yelds

[@ThomasDega]

Excellent comments. I would also add that using the 'random' map setting often results in some nations getting very poor start locations and one superior start location. At the highest difficulty level the AI that gets that great start can easily outscore and overrun the player. Winning often requires blocking of the AIs expansion routes, but sometimes there is nothing the player can do to prevent them achieving massive growth. There are also fixed start maps and random maps of a specific style (like seaside and inner sea) which are often more balanced than just using the 'random' setting.

[@justanewskrub]

Cool seeing you off of the subreddit, you always have good insight on the game there as well.

[@Mathmachine]

I think Potato is about to experience the game equivalent of the Bronze Age Collapse.

[@5auceplatinum99]

Please keep this going I’m really invested in this old World Series

[@chumley307]

While I do enjoy Civ 6, I tend to watch more of your videos when you branch into these other great 4X games. It's a real treat to watch you playing Old World and AoW4 -- do more of that in 2024, please!

[@timwhitman3207]

Honestly choosing semesters instead of years made this harder for you. If you use years leaders die and reset more often, and that helps keep the AI leaders from growing too OP with stats.

[@skyfall7110]

The same is applied to your leaders though He had 18stat leaders! It's crazy. I'd say he went too late on Odeons and you need to build hamlets surrounded by Odeon amphtiather to be competitive

[@timwhitman3207]

@@skyfall7110 of course it applies to your leaders, but the enemy leaders gain xp much faster than you at this difficulty, so not having them die as often means they get much more powerful much quicker than you, and that scaling ramp just gets steeper and steeper because they live twice as long. So it impacts them more than it does you.

[@skyfall7110]

@@timwhitman3207 Indeed, good point.

[@avalen5515]

Loved the Old World series. Its such a great game. Hope you come back to it sometime

[@seathomplay4167]

You played a really good game, especially given the difficulty you chose to play on. It certainly was exciting to the very end! I just got this DLC this morning and am looking forward to playing the game over my 3-day weekend. I haven't played a serious game in maybe 2 years.

[@the_hate_inside1085]

My few cents: Put your heroes/generals in your absolutely best units, that kill the most enemies, and they will level up much faster. Make an effort to always last hit with your hero units. You put them is some random archer that was not even near the front-line. Getting a high tech hero unit leveled up into oblivion, turns it into a one man death robot. Going into the path of war, you would have benefited a lot by having more training points available. Also culture = victory points, you really didn't focus enough on researching key culture tech, and building those buildings. If you want a longer game, just set this up in options prior to starting the game. Anyway it was an enjoyful series to watch.

[@KyleHumfeld]

Thanks for playing Old World! I love this game, and I learn a lot when I watch you play it. =)

[@kred4849]

You win some, you lose some, but you fought valiantly! Plus, it was the hightest difficulty. Maybe a revenge match to teach the AI a lesson? :)

[@TaranAlvein]

What you were talking about, with the game ending right as you're getting going, is the very reason why I won't play Humankind. It's the same exact problem.

[@1kvolt1978]

Shouldn't ignore Odeons/Theaters tech for this long. It opens ingame music for a reason - it supposed to be researched early.

[@SleepyMageX]

Have kind of fallen off Civ content for a while now, but this Old World series has been really exciting to watch. More please :D

[@seanmcdonnell684]

Love the content! Been playing Old World since you first showcased it on your channel! The harder difficulties in the game definitely can get a bit crazy like you said so if any newbies are intimidated by the difficulty don't sweat it! Would love to see you play more Old World on the channel!

[@voyeur4youtubers264]

This was a great game! I hope to see you play more!! It'd be cool to see you play a game with more victory points or different victory conditions

[@a37n31]

give us our daily old world video

[@a37n31]

please do another game of old world

[@wolfhh4926]

You can modify in various ways, I do agree on higher difficulties it becomes a race to get pionts just when you hit the "late game stride". I personally don't completely hate it because Old World's late game feels really tediuos (even if the units and techs and civics are awesome). I do wish that the end game was..sligthly tweaked, because it always does feel the game ends just slightly to early, and points is easier than ambition. One AI civ is usually given a god start. Your start wasn't good I agree, but wow I have never seen a start as bad a Rome's, and Carthage and Babylon both had bad starts. Weird RNG. Last things I want to say--I think a polytheism build is SUPER hard even with all the bonus you were getting to shrines You need two mid game techs to make it work as compared to one early game tech for , and as a result I think both your lumbermills and Odeons were delayed. The delay in Odeons I thik is what actually lost you the game.

[@houndofculann1793]

Have you tried if the setting for requiring more victory points makes positive difference in regards to the game ending slightly too early? I haven't done that yet

[@wolfhh4926]

​@@houndofculann1793 it makes the game end later for sure, and tends to make ambition victories, (which only human players can do), the easier way to win. It also tends to make a late game "superpower" clash more likely, especially against runaway Persia, Assyria, or especially Rome. Its also the only time I've ever gotten to the very last civics, and even then if I get to them I usually have won. I personally find I have more fun not modifying them generally.

[@Caio22011]

I actually do think the end game of Old World is slightly imbalanced, but that's because it likely has the best AI from any 4X game I've ever seen

[@mxmoose]

Really enjoyed this Old World series, hope you play some more soon! Watching the series made me decide to buy it and try it out after years of CIV VI :)

[@dontnormally]

Would you consider toning it down on the editing? The constant cuts is really jarring and makes it hard to really follow along the details

[@Killavolta]

Assyrian AI was just toying with Potato, giving him a false glimpse of victory 😃

[@babbaracos]

Good run! Love this game as well! Would love to see this more on your channel

[@7dwyerm]

Honestly, I have never been happier to play "just one more turn". I play for complete military domination, don't care of any victory conditions, try it, it's fun and VERY hard

[@jimmywinzer3474]

This made my day

[@DenizV-ok1iq]

Never heard of this game, but it was interesting, would like to see you play it again. I think you chose victory condition poorly, you barely even made it into the second half of the tech tree when the game was over I think.

[@thriknzdal]

I would love to see more of this game from you Potato!

[@Elhendi2009]

I'd love to see you have another go at Old World. The mechanics seem super interesting, even if the ending was kind of abrupt.

[@carlbucinikas8515]

You have 100% convinced me to want to play this

[@justanewskrub]

Really close game potato, loved this series and look forward to your next play of this game.

[@electricVGC]

Giant irradiant pink squares ARE pretty wondrous

[@XenusSerathiiIcelon]

When I tried this game, I think I saw a setting in there about some civs getting more starting cities. Apparently it defaults to 'older' civilisations getting 2 extra cities. That doesn't seem fair to me, but I guess it makes for a challenge like Assyria in this vid shows The game is neat, but I think I prefer watching it over playing it at this point

[@ClockworkOuroborous]

I've got mixed feelings about getting this. On the one hand, it looks fun, on the other hand, I already have games I'm not playing because I need to get a bigger hard drive before I can even install them . : / I miss the whole map reply thing that Civ used to do before CivVI. Also, at the time I"m posting this comment there's 2115 views but only 251 likes. C'mon people, help keep Potato fee, click the like button!

[@S3nn4h]

This game is quite small, 8.5GB total.

[@C_McL]

I feel like Potato would be interesting to watch play CK3

[@BodieHammer]

Herculean effort my friend. But for a few clearly uneven start bias rolls...but...alas, such is the way of the real world n'est-ce pas?

[@DarkStarStudiosUK]

17:25 sounds like Kingdom of Kush irl 😂

[@samt.9584]

hello potato, do you have any thoughts on kingdoms reborn? couldn´t find a video where you played it, and maybe you have already commented on the game. but since i haven´t found anything, i thought i´d ask :)

[@Armgoth]

Damn you where fcked by the start... but only the second worst :D Rome had only a sliver of change to get out. Very cool game and sereies. Thanks!

[@Armgoth]

This would have been a good game if there was a npc between greece and assyria. They have 3/4 of the usable map between them.

[@petermacfly6574]

👍👍J'y ai cru !! Ca n'est pas passé loin 😨

[@tigonologdring9189]

Loving watching the Not Civ 7 series... be more than happy to watch another playthrough, maybe change the victory condition to game turns or something. Seemed a bit like speed chess this one, but fun nonetheless.

[@davidharvey2506]

Hey Potato. What are your PC specs? My PC is pretty outdated and it struggles with Old World. Yours seems to run really smooth. .

[@isidornimages]

Old World is definitely a game that requires some gettin used to before you get good at it.

[@harvenkarr]

Not sure if you completed the tech - but if you had you could have peaced Egypt and then just declared a Holy War on them to fulfill that ambition which I believe would have accounted for your last point. Otherwise this was a fun series.

[@josephlinardon3540]

Could you please play a more basic difficulty? I would love the comparison!

[@seasand6705]

yes. the starts are imbalanced. i like to lean into it. i don't play on the hardest settings for that reason. i guess the "game ends right after you get the cool stuff" is something i'm used to from the boardgame world. most euro style games I play you get like 1 round with the powerful stuff and then its scoring time

[@doughoback5226]

Do it again please!!

[@Jammonstrald]

Old World is too good

[@nicolasbarona677]

Can we have a regular video upload from this game? :D

[@lefthanded0440]

Makes “Milenium” look like a joke and still isn’t on par with that cool game that uses tomes or the OG, Civ VI or VIC 3 EDIT: okay I love the graphics. If this had the war mechanics of that game with the tomes (name please?) the layout strategically of Civ vi, world maps of Vic 3 and Civ 6, and keep the graphics of Old World and we have the perfect world exploit game with economics, war, and individual conflicts controlled manually

[@Mtgveets]

Yeah need more of this

[@seasand6705]

i think maybe potato doesn't like losing...

[@jonreich9483]

I think your also forgetting that certain buildings buff other buildings. Kinda got to plan out your city layouts a little more carefully I feel in Old World.

[@cuper3000z]

I need a age of wonder walk through missing it

[@davidcook4823]

I want More!!!

[@Elias_Ehler]

Next seal of "Against the Storm" when?

[@inthegoodbooks]

Hi, are aqueducts worth it if we already have access to fresh water

[@inthegoodbooks]

Civ6

[@nolongeraperson]

Thumbnail said it all 😂

[@Daniel-Star]

So it seems Old World has a bit of the opposite problem from Civ 6 where the push to win can be a slog. I wonder if the developers intentionally tried to prevent that and maybe went to far.

[@axxey]

The base game is decent, is this expansion worth half the game $? A bit irrelevant for a content creator that gets for free i guess. Feels like stellaris style extortion again. I think just using Revan's mod pack has more content added.