My experience on voicing the Galion TS120 amplifier

[@galionaudio9146]

To pre-order the Galion TS120. www.galion-audio.com/products/galion-ts120-tube-integrated-amplifier-1

[@WNK1955]

Thomas, The Galion web site shows a Special Edition (more expensive) BUT I do not yet find any information to explain -how- it is Special. Also, the web site leaves me uncertain about the tubes--88 and 120 are both mentioned here and there and so, to a novice, this makes for easy confusion! Thanks for a clarification or a video to clarify if that's more appropriate. (perhaps I am not alone?)

[@billiondollarbaby3276]

@@WNK1955 Plenty of amps take multiple types of Power tubes. My one Raven Amp can use 34/6550/88/90/100/120/150

[@WNK1955]

@@billiondollarbaby3276 Yes, known and understood. I failed to make my remark clear. After looking at the Galion preorder site for the TS120--I do not know which tube is the provided default. I also do not know what differs about the Special Edition versus the standard. Sorry for being thick.

[@billiondollarbaby3276]

@@WNK1955 SE has better capacitors and Wood on the sides instead of Metal. Not sure exactly what the capacitors improve upon. Kinda confused if he was going to make the base model as good as it can possibly be then why is there another model with better capacitors? So the base model obviously doesnt have the best parts as stated on countless occasions. Id be more confident if only 1 model was offered because it already has the best of everything but thats just me. Kind of like buying a Klipsch speaker....why do I have to buy Damping material like Dynamat to make it sound its best. Just charge me extra and install it in the 1st place so I dont have to go thru the hassle. Good luck on your Journey.

[@mrpositronia]

Hi Thomas! Good luck with the new company.

[@galionaudio9146]

Thanks, exciting times.

[@chrisvantassel8867]

Just like a vintage Neve console, beautifully colored.

[@johndavies6253]

I am hoping that your amp is a colossal success , so much so that your next amp is pre-amp only…why, well because I can only have a headphone only hifi and I desperately want to experience this sound, but can only do so with headphones. Thomas, you deserve a tremendous success with this product because you have put so much of yourself into this, but if you do decide to go for a second product in the lineup, have a thought for us poor quiet headphone guys!

[@kevin-yq8nn]

Thomas - thank you for taking us on your journey… We already watch you because of your passion, knowledge and “straight shooting” style of delivery… but now? We get to watch and listen to your thought process on your OWN product - what a TREAT!!!! 🔊 Looking forward to more on your Galion adventure!!! 🌊 ⛵️ 🎶

[@nelsonang]

always love listening to the manufacturer explain his approach… congratulations!

[@dominicvalois]

I'm so glad you reached the level you were aiming for! Like you said, it takes lots of time, patience and efforts, but you got there, congrats!

[@galionaudio9146]

That is thanks to you.

[@marklawrence4116]

Super cool - this is great Thomas and all of us at LSA wishing you the very best Good info here too boot 🙂

[@galionaudio9146]

Thanks Mark.

[@soowat1190]

Thanks for an educational intro of voicing the TS120, so much temptation that I really wanted to own one too... Wishing you a great success on your new company. ✌️🎉

[@galionaudio9146]

Hopefully one day :)

[@vproven]

Outstanding as always. 👍👍👍

[@epi2045]

Glad you are doing this!!! Fantastic. Subscriber to both of your channels. Very exciting…

[@markscott7583]

Really enjoyed this behind the scenes voicing process video Thomas. Well done.

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗I AM VERY THANKFUL THAT YOU WERE PERSISTENT FOR PERFECTION…. AND WITH YOUR AUDIOPHILE FRIENDS HELPING YOU WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THEM …WITH TONE CONTROL AND TUBE OPTIONS….which IMHHO allows for us to season them with just the right amount of salt 🧂😋😎🤗😍😍😍

[@RedSinter]

Yes, indeed Good Luck Thomas...

[@EnemyofCredulity]

I'm saving. This sounds like it will be good.

[@fattnersgeekfile5478]

would live to hear your new tube with my Klipsch La Scalas

[@PearlAcoustics]

In this industry, to achieve great results you need five main attributes: 1. A great deal of patience and determination. 2. A massive amount of objectivity. 3. The ability to listen to others that might know more than you. 4. The ability to know when to stop. And lastly 5. The ability to tell the story in an engaging way. Thomas, you have them all! Congratulations. I can’t wait to hear it 😀

[@carlitomelon4610]

The voice of experience. Time to send a review sample to Harvey Lovegrove, Thomas 🎵🎶😁🎶🎵

[@galionaudio9146]

Thanks for the encouragement!

[@galionaudio9146]

Yes sir!

[@jordanmacfarlane5807]

Wow I think I want one now !

[@billfarrell4387]

Hi Thomas Hope you reach your 1000 Subscriber’s quickly Always a pleasure to see/hear your videos Take Care

[@galionaudio9146]

Many thanks!

[@setsanchew3897]

A voice of love. Ia a voice in the wilderness.

[@papschmear]

Good stuff. Still loving my MK3. Added another REL sub to it recently so i've got 3 subs in my room and it sounds incredible. Not bright whatsoever. I listen in what you'd describe as musical mode almost every single day now.

[@larsv6144]

Subscribed and put it on my wish list...... have the Musical Fidelity Nu-Vista 600 at the moment. Am considering the TS120, as it suppose to be similar to Luxman amps, and the designer/developer of my Wharfedale Elysian 2 speakers said he had very good results with Luxman amps during the development phase.

[@heinzbecker691]

voicing the electronics is most time consuming part of the development...of every component in the chain. cables, capacitors, plugs, transformer, volume control...every little detail in the amp makes small differences but the total of all these parts give you the sound and quality of the component. i think you put alot of work in it and its great sounding.

[@hartonotjahjadi213]

Congratulations on achieving your high end sound goals for Galion . So what is the main difference in sound characteristics between Galion TS 120 and Galion TS 120 SE after you have achieved your high end sound quality goals? Thank you for making so much sacrifice you have done, willingly do everything you need to do tirelessly to achieve such high end sounds you have looking for, like you have described in the video. I really appreciate it and it really helps me understand the high end sound character of my future Galion TS 120 SE . I can't hardly wait 😁 I am sure you will and pray for your success in the future in your business as well as in your life. Amen

[@aceofspades6667]

Thanks Thomas these vids are gold!

[@galionaudio9146]

Glad you think so!

[@manuelvelasco1060]

Cool! I think the Galeon is going to be a near perfect amp. I only miss a couple of VU meters. Anyway, I love it.

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗As for your other problem you have my SYMPATHIES… I lost my front bridge before Covid and have never been able to replace it 😁😍😍😍

[@galionaudio9146]

😢

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

@@galionaudio9146 🤗❤️THANKS FOR YOUR SYMPATHY…BUT IT’s OK…I CAN STILL EAT AND ENJOY IT 😋AND BEST OF ALL …I ENJOY MUSIC 🎶 AND I LOOK 👀 FORWARD TO YOUR VIDEOS AND MEEMS🤗😁😍😍😍

[@JingoLoBa57]

A man and his voice…’ing. Great stuff Thomas, time to break out the noodles 🍜!

[@galionaudio9146]

Oh yeah!

[@oohtob6685]

Subscribed sir.

[@carlitomelon4610]

Interesting hearing about your cap rolling experience. I'm considering the Musical Paradise MP701mk2 tube preamp that allows cap rolling with speaker terminals on the circuit board. One of your audio buddies has one. Have you heard it? 🎶🤔🎶

[@galionaudio9146]

I have the MP701 in for review, really interesting.

[@carlitomelon4610]

@@galionaudio9146 Splendid! 🎵🎶😎🎶🎵

[@jasonlesarge1449]

Subscribed

[@denniswade4998]

Wow! Gotta say that was incredibly worth listening to! I feel like I've been given a good class on how to voice an amplifier, and the decisions that it requires. That's a tough job. I like your thoughts on adding tone control and having two settings , because in the real world, no two listening rooms will ever sound the same, even with the exact same system. I think it is good business sense to give the customer room to play with the voicing so that he or she can find what gives them the best experience. But it still requires having a good base sound to start with, and it is obvious that you have put an incredible amount of work and thought into just that. I wish you tremendous good fortune! If I wasn't living on a fixed retirement income, I would grab one in a minute!

[@galionaudio9146]

Yeah, we all have different systems and I was hoping the TS120 will work with as many system as possible.

[@djfirestormx]

you and me have the same audio philosophy. it has to sound right, not leaning towards a preference even though we have one. that is how i have been voicing my speaker brand, to sound right, not just great in a way people lean to. i have to say i have tried those clarity caps, and i realize the results may differ in the circuitry, but have you tested auricap XO series? i have tested in some amp mods and rebuilds and they seem to be more 1:1. I find the Clarity MR tend to do as you said to the midrange. of course the result may differ in your design but worth a try. it will make tube rolling more 1:1 to the natural traits of the tubes if they do the same thing. the slight colour might have adverse effects on typical tubes people like to swap to. or maybe its perfect now and no need. just love giving my own personal experience to make audio the best it can be

[@galionaudio9146]

No I have not and perhaps in the future i would for my other gear.

[@delanoquijano6152]

Thomas is the galion TS120 Special Edition a good match for my dynaudio heretage special?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It should, the contour dynaudio speakers I tried matched really well.

[@erictam7129]

Do you have showroom in North Texas ?

[@mrtim6479]

I see a Cayin Soul 170i sitting behind you. Did you review that amp? How close does your Galion come to that one?

[@galionaudio9146]

I will review it soon. It is best I don't mention the difference because I am bias afterall.

[@mtsai237]

Will it work on my Maggie 1.7? Currently run by 2 parasound mono amps. How about on the old Vanderstein 2 Ci? I assume you can ship it to Taiwan

[@galionaudio9146]

i would say probably the Vanderstein but not the 1.7. I tried it on the 1.7i and was not satisfied with it. Taiwan no problem.

[@mtsai237]

@@galionaudio9146 thanks for the reply. How about using on 11/16 Ohms LS3/5a? Current I use Reisong A50 mk ii 300B after watching your review.

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

Great Job Thomas I know Your Amp has been alot of work rolling coupling caps doesn't look to fun I saw you had to remove the Alps volume control to get to one of the leads . And yeah Caps reshape and reform from heat and cool down . I remb when i 1st got the Mk2 I Put like 150 hours on the amp before a judged and sure enough the amp did settle into its own 😃 What caps did you use for Coupling caps ? Ohh i bet the add on for rolling caps made life more easy . Thanks again

[@galionaudio9146]

I used 2 types, Silver mica for transparent setting and for Musical setting, ceramic.

[@decoryder]

@@galionaudio9146 Good choice! After having tested over 36+ different coupling capacitors in my DYI pre-amp, I know what a frustrating ordeal capacitor rolling can be. The best coupling caps I found where Audyn True Copper Max, but they're huge and heavy, and they may not fit in typical applications.

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

@@galionaudio9146 ohh ok thanks Thomas

[@galionaudio9146]

@@decoryder Ah, I wish you told me earlier so I would have given it a try. I also got some Jupiter caps.

[@decoryder]

​@@galionaudio9146 Yeah sorry I missed the fact that you were rolling caps. Hey - never to late for the next revision, right? Don't feel bad however - the caps are huge, and heavy - they prolly won't fit into your amp case without modification. The sound though, is the best I've heard from all the caps I tested, even though I had some difficulty using them in my preamp case. If you can, give them a try and keep them in mind for future reference. If you have Jupiter copper caps, you should get somewhat similar results; the copper foil caps do not have a 'sound', but rather they are dead neutral, and make music - particularly voices very 'life-like'. I very much look forward to hearing what more you will learn about coupling caps in the weeks and months ahead! Galion's a winner, steady-as-she-goes:)

[@hassabsaeed9993]

how it play with KLH model 5, also would you offer it with different volume pot ?

[@galionaudio9146]

The final volume pot will be different, no logo on it. I have yet to test it on the KLH but I will eventually. It should be able to drive it.

[@hassabsaeed9993]

@@galionaudio9146 no logo means not an alps pot , that's really great ,, I hate Alps pot and i skip any product has them .. Thanks for the answer and looking for your feedback about the KLH 5

[@piglingbland8666]

Did you make sure it has plenty of distortion like tube amps do? That's what makes it sound warm. Bwahaha.

[@galionaudio9146]

With extra mayo.

[@kuisin88]

Two things Thomas, 1. You didn't include the coffee making feature. 2. ASR will give you cow poo poo review. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@galionaudio9146]

🤣🤣🤣

[@epi2045]

I like ASR and yup Amir probably would measure it and poo poo on it. However it’s based on measurements. I know for a fact that my solid state Mark Levinson and Parasound amps measure significantly better… and yet I listen to my 3wpc tube amp 90% of the time.

[@stevieg2755]

Ok then put cables on audiomart for cheap,no , didn't think so

[@galionaudio9146]

Not sure I follow.

[@randybehenna3081]

Lol I asked him to review the amp and I do have texts he got scared and cried like a little kid

[@Nah-kh]

Made in China zhu Jiang?