How can a tube amplifier have amazing bass? Galion TS120 has out of this world bass.

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Gear used or mentioned in this video
Galion TS120 Normal edition tube integrated amplifier
Pathos Logos integrated amplifier.
Polk audio 707 speakers
KEF R700 speakers
Yaqin MC10 integrated amp
Mcintosh 2100 Integrated amp

[@DBravo29er]

Those Clarity Cap CMR's are absolutely AMAZING. Well done!!!

[@Nonsensei-OG]

Thanks for the continuing series about how you are developing this amplifier and how others are experiencing it within their systems. There is nothing like actual information to ward off erroneous notions and inaccurate conclusions. This looks to be a real treat.

[@tothemax324]

@7:00 mark is key here, OPT's and PT's are the foundation. Thanks Thomas and Fredrick

[@zackw4941]

9:18 I already said Thomas needs to have them print some volume marks and label them up to 11.

[@rctony710]

I gotta get one! When I heard it I was blown away by the sound and the look was beautiful!❤️

[@1mctous]

I'd consider the KT88 glow to be a huge plus.

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗👍😁THOMAS …YOUR GALION DESIGN IS CREATING A GREAT IMPRESSION EVERYWHERE 🎉🎉🎉

[@simonirvine1628]

It would be interesting to see an A/B test with a Primaluna evo 300 integrated and no using the tone controls, try it, lets see and hear. It is a fair comparison in the wallet situation...

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Mr. Jazz actually had the Evo 400 before, I do have a good idea of the differences but best not comment in a public forum because I am obviously bias and it would not be fair

[@simonirvine1628]

@@ThomasAndStereo Cool cool Mr.T.

[@simonirvine1628]

@@ThomasAndStereo All Okay with me..

[@crtgamer2355]

Thomas don't give away all your secrets ;), but fascinating to hear about the caps, man I wish I could afford this amp. I still think a redesign of the chassis would be much better for the amp, also aa nice wood finish to add to the Galion feel. One more thing Thomas(this is just in general, not talking about the Galion specifically), just for fun, try adding a vintage or vintage style hardware limiter before your amps input, with light settings, you will be shocked at how much it brings out details you never heard before in a mix and also adds some colour if required. You just have to play with the compression and peak reduction and find a setting that works, less is more. It also brings back the life to clinical digital music playback.

[@galionaudio9146]

Do you have a link to a photo of the hardware limiter? My original design did not look like the current Galion. I had to adapt due to the COVID situation and hence you see many similarities to the Doge 10. Eventually, in a year or 2, I will re-design it. Mr. Kanta shares the same sentiment as you.

[@crtgamer2355]

@@galionaudio9146 That's awesome to hear Thomas, I am really looking forward to see what you come up with, and I'm glad Mr Kanta has the same opinion as me :) I guess any vintage style limiter will do, I have been messing around with Limiter plugins on my media player, specifically the Frontier free limiter plugin by D16 Group, which seems to be based on the legendary TELETRONIX LA-2A Limiter. Even though it's not hardware, man the sound is just incredible, I can only imagine how good the real thing will sound, especially if it has tubes like vintage Limiters. Of course I can't afford the real thing, but there are modern hardware recreations which I'm sure you can get a hold of for a much better price. One of these is the Warm Audio WA-2A Optical Compressor which goes for about $900, not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but obtainable by someone as yourself. Yes Limiters and Compressors are mainly used in studios, but light compression on music can really, bring out details, very similar to tape compression and saturation. Have you ever wondered why music sounds so good and engaging on radio? That's compression and saturation at work. Yes they go overboard sometimes, but you can work magic if you can find the right setting. less is more. Give it a go, it really adds back the magic to sterile digital music formats. It's another tool in your audio arsenal :)

[@crtgamer2355]

@@galionaudio9146 I just realized you will need two of these Limiters for stereo since they are single channel. Of course the digital plugin versions are stereo by default, I guess one advantage software has lol

[@crtgamer2355]

@@galionaudio9146 Of course there are stereo hardware limiters like the Manley Variable Mu but that is not cheap. Then there other one I can think of now is the Pro VLA II - Two Channel Vactrol-based Compressor/Limiter which is much more affordable.

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

LOOKING FORWARD 👀 to FREDRICK’s system and I also love to listen in the dark…but I love the lights and I used to watch the meters on my CARVER …back in the day 😁🤗💚💚💚

[@ridirefain6606]

Greetings, I really enjoyed the video. I'm a tube head and love all things valve, so I am biased. I think that Tube Amps not having bass albeit true of many makes, is a bit of myth. I have owned 5 or 6 of them. All different makes, not one failed to deliver satisfying bass. In fact many of them had better quality than the big watt SS designs I also experimented with. That I also found also to be a myth, just because it is SS does not necessarily mean your going to get clean, tight, bass out of it. My observations is if a tube amp manufacturer, puts a lot of thought into its power supply, and engineer it to deliver a lot of current, it will do an excellent job on the low-end, despite a modest output of watts.

[@galionaudio9146]

Yup, well said. I have over generalized this tube vs solid state thing but you are correct that there are many tube amp with great bass and many solid state with crappy bass.

[@aussie8114]

⭐️🌟 G A L I O N 🌟⭐️

[@naikrosh]

The amp has nice aesthetics... with the exception of the logo on the volume knob. A plain knob would have been nice. Esp on the black unit, it there seems to be too much text/graphics on the front plate.

[@galionaudio9146]

Yup, I have changed exactly that.

[@frankgeeraerts6243]

Bass quality with tube amplifiers is NO secret ...........max bass and lowest distortion when the tubes have currents within minimal difference in mA bias.....

[@EdBenji]

It all depends on the recording!

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

😬THAT LOIC…CHEATING US OUT OF A SOUND DEMO 😁

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗👍😱 measurements are not the proof ….FREDRICK what are you saying 😁 THANKS FÜR SHARING UND STORY FREDRIC …THOMAS…PLEASE KEEP DOING THIS WITH OTHERS…REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE 😎💚💚💚

[@Alvaalex10]

Hi there, what about low impedance speakers like old infinity kappas? can it handle or will it burn?

[@markinjhawkland724]

Whats different about the Special Edition? And are you going to have Zero Fidelity do a review??

[@galionaudio9146]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIuylmCnmst8lbs Eventually everyone will review it.

[@MrJayrodge]

Thomas, do you know which United Chemi-Con capacitor series are used in the amplifier?

[@galionaudio9146]

No but if you tell me what to look for, I can check oout what is written on it.

[@MrJayrodge]

@@galionaudio9146 there is a 3 letter code like KZJ or KMR on the side on the can. It's funny the code is just here and there mixed in with the other writing. Thank you for doing this. I've built three Triode Dick amp designs and he used those caps, but he never said which series. Love your videos!

[@matthewhilty4209]

I just tested my Voltage in California, USA at 117V what version would be correct the 110V or the 120V ?

[@galionaudio9146]

I would get the 120v one.

[@khalidmohamedshaikh399]

Hii Is this the normal edition or the special edition Gallion Amp

[@galionaudio9146]

This is the normal edition.

[@jackstraw1756]

Give me a proper warranty other than 1 year and I’m in, otherwise it’s too much of a risk.

[@mrt6349]

Wonder how much extra it would be to get it to Denmark

[@galionaudio9146]

Not a penny more. It is all paid for in my asking price.

[@mrt6349]

@@galionaudio9146 shipping included

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@mrt6349 Yes.

[@ProfessorJohnSmith]

I have found that Class D amps have no refinement at all even high end class D. Can you confirm if you have experienced the same thing?

[@galionaudio9146]

Maybe its the matching with the preamp? The class D amps I have tried to have refinement, they start from $4k all the way to $60k.

[@Johndoe8970i]

Thomas, buddy do a demo of Concept 500s and the Galion top model

[@JingoLoBa57]

Next time… please sit down 😁it will help you relax ☕️

[@galionaudio9146]

Great suggestion.

[@Pete.across.the.street]

I'm going to use 8 capacitors

[@galionaudio9146]

Haha, you will blow your speakers.

[@matthewhilty4209]

Insert Tim the Toolman grunt and more power quote meme here.

[@Pete.across.the.street]

Naw, they'll go up to 11

[@mansorhisham8962]

How much is the Galion ts120

[@ThomasAndStereo]

$3500 USD ALL included for normal edition and $4500 USD for the special edition.

[@soowat1190]

Bass are expensive, hundreds of dollars per Hz. 😊

[@JingoLoBa57]

When r u going to let the guy speak?! Lol you got stuck in your enthusiasm and can’t help yourself. Ah well it’s your bb… yet slow down and give for others to share their experiences.

[@galionaudio9146]

Good point. The original interview actually did have a lot more but the flow was not smooth so I removed it. In the video talking about his room, he did speak a bit more but I am going back to re film the whole thing so the flow is better. It is a lot of hard work behind the scene.

[@adambrown8867]

OMG, that guy's room will sound horrible. A hifi system in a live reverb chamber essentially is his listening room. All hard surfaces & parallel walls? Wasting money on high end gear if its in a crap room.

[@scootergants]

PCB design... Hum.. okay..

[@galionaudio9146]

But it will kick every single point to point wiring amp that uses 4 KT88, well at least in terms of bass. So you can buy a point to point and settle for 2nd best BUT, point to point definitely is easier to repair and probably last longer. Pros and cons.

[@AudioheavenDenmark]

@@galionaudio9146 naaaah. That's very unrealistic to say.

[@sethmarlee3303]

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