My father died. Where is he now? // Ask NT Wright Anything

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Leading Bible scholar Tom Wright answers Mike’s question about where his father is, following his death.
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@johnledington6242 Жыл бұрын

This brings me so much comfort

@candorconvos26 5 жыл бұрын

I need to listen to more of this NT Wright guy.

@jamesdean1989 4 жыл бұрын

...why?...you won't hear anything...

@Touchthesky412 4 жыл бұрын

He’s the foremost New Testament authority alive today. You will hear truth.

@thberger61794 4 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind he’s human and makes mistakes. Don’t take his word alone as gospel. Read the scriptures as well brother.

@Touchthesky412 4 жыл бұрын

Tom Bladecki dude that’s a lot of work for someone who obviously doesn’t get the last part of Revelation, when there is a new heaven and new earth and we are all reunited with immortal, imperishable, incorruptible bodies. Your exegesis is rather incomplete. 🙄

@dave6148 4 жыл бұрын

No you don't ...he is certainly very easy on the ears, and therein lies the problem. He has a lot of religious belief that is scripturally unsound. Test them for yourself. What is the 'hope of the Resurrection' if we have an immortal soul. When we die, we are no longer in existence- awaiting the Return of The Lord, when He will raise the dead. To believe that you go to Heaven when you die completely negates this hope of The Resurrection. To believe in the existence of Hell as a place of eternal tormentbrings the character of The Father into question and is therefore a serious and foolish error. It is not difficult to show that those Bible passages that seem to refer to a conscious existence after death are using figurative language (e.g.. 'Abrahams bosom etc). Those passages quoted by Mr Wright here are woeful. E.g. the thief on the cross. Read- 'I say to you today, now, you WILL be with Me in paradise'. Jesus didn't rise from the dead until three days after this. When Paul spoke about his desire to 'depart and be with Christ', He knew that after his death, his next conscious moment would be with His Lord at the Resurrection. This kind of bad exposition by Mr Wright is frustrating to listen to, even more so, those who are taken in by nothing more than his oratory skills. 'Test the spirit's, whether they are of God'. There are plenty of passages to show that there is no conscious existence in the grave. There are plenty of passages that show that there is no such thing as an immortal soul. Biblically, a soul is a living creature, whether man or beast (look up the word in Strongs). Where do we find the term 'Immortal Soul' in scripture? Nowhere. Those who desire to be a disciple of The Lord Jesus Christ need to wake up to the Lords warning of false christian teachers.

@PeterAlmenar 5 жыл бұрын

I love the “inn” concept. There was no room for Jesus in Bethlehem’s inn, but he prepares an inn for each of us. And, I’m gobsmacked by the Holy Spirit comment at the end. Wow! More on that, please!

@princeamoakwa4057 3 жыл бұрын

He should read stories. His voice is great, NT’s. He’s got the sweet Grandpa demeanor.

@jillbald1430 2 жыл бұрын

Everything takes on a different perspective if you say that once you die you are outside of time - so it is not a case of “resting” somewhere until the millennium or whatever. We have no concept of being outside of time. “With God a day is like a thousand years” 2Peter 3.8

@geofromnj7377 4 жыл бұрын

It's been 2000 years since Jesus (and Paul) spoke and according to NT, theologians are still working on what happens to human beings after they die. You would think Jesus and Paul would have been a bit more explicit.

@YoxxSHIxx 4 жыл бұрын

His answer is God only knows

@Hithere-ek4qt 4 жыл бұрын

and, since there is no god..........................

@YoxxSHIxx 4 жыл бұрын

@@Hithere-ek4qt prove it

@omnius1357 2 жыл бұрын

@@YoxxSHIxx prove there are no unicorns!

@YoxxSHIxx 2 жыл бұрын

@@omnius1357 you're not here to argue about unicorns. That argument doesn't work here. Deep down you have to suppress the existence of God so that you can still be in control. You already know the truth.

@Jesusexplains 5 жыл бұрын

Very well answered and explained... and comforting! The TRUTH!

@datchet11 5 жыл бұрын

Sooo.... where is my father now again?

@Touchthesky412 4 жыл бұрын

It’s one of the most important questions in life. Don’t expect the answer to be simple.

@pig5267 4 жыл бұрын

He is sixfeetundertheground.

@hereweare9096 4 жыл бұрын

The beautiful truth is found in the Bible. We look to Jesus words at John 11:11-15 After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.” 12 His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.” 13 Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep. 14 So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead, 15 and for your sake I am glad I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him.” Here Jesus likened death to being asleep. An unconscious state. In verses 23, 24 we read - Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” 24 Martha answered, “I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.” A resurrection will take place. At John 5:28,29 - Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out-those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. These again are Jesus OWN WORDS. A future resurrection will take place. The Bible states at Ecclesiastes 9:5 - For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten Vs 10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom. So we see death is an unconscious sleep like state. People await a FUTURE resurrection as Jesus states. God's original plan for humans to enjoy life forever on earth will be restored. Revelation 21:3,4 - And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” NIV This is why Jesus came to Earth to restore the opportunity to live forever on earth that Adam lost. Psalm 37:29 - And the righteous ones inherit the Earth and dwell upon it for eternity.

@DS-lx7tf 4 жыл бұрын

1:23 - 1:55

@mosestwinkle7922 3 жыл бұрын

He is with Christ.

@theidolbabblerthedailydose33 4 жыл бұрын

The answer is in Job... Job 14:10-11 But a man dies and is laid low; man breathes his last, and where is he? As waters fail from a lake and a river wastes away and dries up,

@virginiashroyer2279 Жыл бұрын

Great answer! Thank you brother Tom! God bless!

@HeyTripleJ Жыл бұрын

Had me then he lost me, some of what he’s saying toward the end is not on par but I’ll just pray about it and ask God and read more but yeah it gave me a cheque in my spirit

@AdamRTNewman 5 жыл бұрын

The matter of where the deceased person is if he's lost was just dodged.

@nathanvantwisk5729 5 жыл бұрын

The Bible isn't very clear on what state they are in or "where" they are before the Final Judgement and Resurrection of the Saints, so it would be presumptuous to form a complete answer.

@mmmail1969 4 жыл бұрын

No, because it's not for humans to give simply feel-good answers, we after death, are in God's hands. But, we can influence His thinking by how we now live.

@hereweare9096 4 жыл бұрын

@@nathanvantwisk5729 I'd say the Bible is very clear. They are unconscious awaiting a future resurrection. The beautiful truth is found in the Bible. We look to Jesus words at John 11:11-15 After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.” 12 His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.” 13 Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep. 14 So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead, 15 and for your sake I am glad I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him.” Here Jesus likened death to being asleep. An unconscious state. In verses 23, 24 we read - Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” 24 Martha answered, “I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.” A resurrection will take place. At John 5:28,29 - Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out-those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. These again are Jesus OWN WORDS. A future resurrection will take place. The Bible states at Ecclesiastes 9:5 - For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten Vs 10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom. So we see death is an unconscious sleep like state. People await a FUTURE resurrection as Jesus states. God's original plan for humans to enjoy life forever on earth will be restored. Revelation 21:3,4 - And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” NIV This is why Jesus came to Earth to restore the opportunity to live forever on earth that Adam lost. Psalm 37:29 - And the righteous ones inherit the Earth and dwell upon it for eternity.

@dagman85 4 жыл бұрын

@@hereweare9096 - but then you have the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, as well as the passage where the spirit of Samuel is summoned by a witch to speak with Saul. Nobody is sleeping in either of those situations. So "very clear" seems to me to be a bit of an overstatement.

@hereweare9096 4 жыл бұрын

@@dagman85 Firstly I think Jesus words are fully reliable. Secondly as you state the PARABLE of the rich man and Lazarus. Thirdly witchcraft is an abomination to God so anyone "called up" would have been a demon. Jesus himself stated Lazarus was sleeping...from a state he would resurrect him from. This was to show what he will happen on a greater scale in the future.

@lukewagner8871 4 жыл бұрын

1 Timothy 4:9-11 KJVS [9] This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. [10] For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. [11] These things command and teach.

@captainkev10 5 жыл бұрын

I truly appreciate this material, Justin. But these 30 minute podcasts are entirely too short! :)

@jasonreformedbaptist6842 3 жыл бұрын

They shall know us by our fruits - conversion isn't something that is kept hidden - Real Faith Works.

@randyw.8781 Жыл бұрын

Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” Martha answered, “I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.” Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?” “Yes, Lord,” she replied, “I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”

@Panhorst 4 жыл бұрын

For all of those people who was not listening close enough he clearly pointed out that only those in Jesus go to be with him but magnificently stated only Jesus truly understands the faith that someone has.

@hereweare9096 4 жыл бұрын

The earth was created for people to live on. God set up Adam and Eve on EARTH. They lost the opportunity to live forever on earth in peace and security. That is why Jesus came to restore. The beautiful truth is found in the Bible. We look to Jesus words at John 11:11-15 After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.” 12 His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.” 13 Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep. 14 So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead, 15 and for your sake I am glad I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him.” Here Jesus likened death to being asleep. An unconscious state. In verses 23, 24 we read - Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” 24 Martha answered, “I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.” A resurrection will take place. At John 5:28,29 - Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out-those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. These again are Jesus OWN WORDS. A future resurrection will take place. The Bible states at Ecclesiastes 9:5 - For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten Vs 10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom. So we see death is an unconscious sleep like state. People await a FUTURE resurrection as Jesus states. God's original plan for humans to enjoy life forever on earth will be restored. Revelation 21:3,4 - And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” NIV This is why Jesus came to Earth to restore the opportunity to live forever on earth that Adam lost. Psalm 37:29 - And the righteous ones inherit the Earth and dwell upon it for eternity.

@FunnyBlueMouse-ub9ld 19 күн бұрын

@hereweare9096 Amen. That is precisely what the Bible teaches. The majority of our brothers and sisters ignore this (like I once did), and it's unfortunate. Blessings.

@flittedacrossmybrain8584 6 ай бұрын

N.T. Wright says here that I can look up the word for "mansion," as found in John 14...so I did. Then I looked up the Greek root of the word "cemetery." A cemetery is a place for the burial of multiple persons. The word "cemetery" is singular in construction, but (as with the word, "hotel") the sense of a single thing intended for occupation by multiple persons is understood: This is why we say, "The cemetery is open," not, "The cemetery are open." See Strong's 3438 ("mansion"). Now compare Strong's 3438 to what's given below as the etymology for "cemetery;" it's from a well-respected online etymology site: "burial ground, place set aside for burial of the dead," late 14c., cimiterie, from Old French cimetiere "graveyard" (12c.), from Medieval Latin cemeterium, Late Latin coemeterium, from Greek koimeterion "sleeping place, dormitory," from koiman "to put to sleep," keimai "I lie down," from PIE root *kei- (1) "to lie," also forming words for "bed, couch." The man that suspects something's rotten in Denmark may still find it out--be it ever so far away--merely by following his nose.

@wildbillslunksauce7621 3 жыл бұрын

It wouldn’t make sense for people to go anywhere immediately after death. If you are judged immediately upon death, what would be the point of being judged again at the resurrection? When we are dead, we are “asleep” in the grave and have no thoughts. We are dead. When the resurrection comes, we are judged and either destroyed or given eternal life. I don’t know why everyone has to make it so complicated.

@forestparkpresbyterianchur5185 Жыл бұрын

Youu must be 7th day Adventist? soul sleep and annihilationism

@prodpurplereign 4 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Thomas a real one

@rfly05 4 жыл бұрын

What about baptism for the dead as mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15 : 29?

@HG-ic8ks 5 ай бұрын

I would think that if we are to be resurrected from the dead, then we have to be dead, not alive somewhere. The pagan “immortal soul” makes a resurrection from the dead unnecessary. A man can be turned into dust, and God’s miraculous power can bring him back to life thousands of years later. If we are intrinsically immortal then we don’t require this. We just float away to our destination. If we have an immortal soul then we really don’t die.

@JaniceT-Poet 5 жыл бұрын

Respectfully, I really wish he had answered the question that was asked.

@Joesfosterdogs 5 жыл бұрын

classic Wright...he never answers questions muddled with historical context that sounds impressive, then you ask, WHAT DID HE REALLY SAY?

@hereweare9096 4 жыл бұрын

@jessemendoza4647 4 жыл бұрын

You're not listening Janice.

@qwewrty1 3 жыл бұрын

@@hereweare9096 Beautiful! This is absolutely the best response to the question posed.

@Simon05784 3 жыл бұрын

@Here we are. Funny, question is where IS he NOW. Respectfully the caps are emphasis not yelling. Is he live, aware, living after the body has been laid to sleep? Which brings up what about the NDE experiences. "Lord Jesus, receive my Spirit." Paul's statements "taken to paradise, unknow whether dead or was alive." Shows a belief that when dead, we do go to the other realm, doesn't it. Is resurection not when life comes to the body again to live on earth...in the last day, after waiting with the Lord in heaven?

@DavidUebergang 3 жыл бұрын

What did he mean when he said that believers in some way shape the spirit? 5:20

@DailyDoseofProverbs 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@RonKelmell Жыл бұрын

All judgment is committed to the Son. No man can answer for another man's condition regardless of how 'obvious' it may appear to the eye.

@wildbillslunksauce7621 3 жыл бұрын

The dead sleep until the resurrection. There is no reason to believe anything different unless the Bible explicitly says something different, which it most certainty doesn’t.

@brandonablack 4 жыл бұрын

So Wright believes that dead believers are in the place Yeshua spoke about in John 14:3 - a place he is preparing for us. Before Yeshua it was pretty clear that all people went to Sheol/the grave/the place of the dead/Hades. Because the NT still speaks of all people having to be resurrected, it doesn't make a lot of sense for believers to go to a special place after they die, especially in light of passages that compare death to sleep. While people might prefer a different idea of afterlife, the Bible speaks of a place where the dead rest and a resurrection (actually two resurrections).

@mil.gan4mil.gan431 5 жыл бұрын

Thank God for you , sweet spiritual sir and wisest man of God. Love to you from us.

@MrMurfle 4 жыл бұрын

I don't get it. Isn't this intermediate, 'resting' state heaven? Isn't heaven where Jesus is? Seems like this life-after-life-after-death concept that Wright pushes is just a bit of playing around with words that confuses more than it clarifies anything.

@no42arak-st-floor44 Жыл бұрын

please explain as to what is "a happy death?"🤔

@jddeklerk 3 жыл бұрын

5:15 The Holy Spirit is affected and shaped by who we become?! This really is a crazy view that goes against the immutability of God.

@qetoun 3 жыл бұрын

its a relationship so both sides complement the other.

@DailyDoseofProverbs 3 жыл бұрын

It's okay- heresy is more palatable if delivered with gravitas.

@DS-lx7tf 2 жыл бұрын

Let's take it easy on that heresy pedal. It took a minute to process, but it seems to me this is what Wright was trying to communicate (on the spot): As we, the "temple" of God's Spirit, are shaped and transformed, the Holy Spirit who dwells within us and intimately knows us would remember us "hold our members together against the Day when [he] will then raise us from the dead."

@johnmarkharris 3 ай бұрын

We receive the house not made with hands, an eternal body (i.e. Jesus) in the heavens. Then when He returns He brings them with(in) Him for the resurrection when we receive our glorified bodies.

@tookie36 5 ай бұрын

The idea of physical resurrection sounds different than a soul but how? It’s not going to be this decaying body. We don’t know what it’ll look like but we know it’ll be what we consider to be the self… how is that different than a soul?

@chardo24 4 жыл бұрын

In the Selmon of the Mountain Jesus said "how blessed are those who know their need of God" Why? because the Kingdom of God is theirs. When? It is yours now. Gods Kingdom is not a place but a state of being. Saint Paul said that resurrection of the body is not inmortality but life renew again. It is life in God here and now.

@eltonron1558 4 жыл бұрын

How about, the dead know nothing, and are dead, until a resurrection to judgment. The simplicity of God.

@jb-vg4cb 3 жыл бұрын

That is referring to the body,and it doesn't say antil resurrection

@eltonron1558 3 жыл бұрын

@@jb-vg4cb A soul, is a life. When God breathed life into Adam, he became a living creature (soul). Gen. 2:7?When Adam died, he became a dead soul (creature), just like you, when you die. NT Wright, is also wrong about Jesus on the cross speaking to the thief on the cross. The comma should be AFTER, the word "today". For Jesus himself was dead for 3 day's, and not in paradise. The word "shall" denotes the future, meaning, in the resurrection of the dead. I think Wright, is trying to make the case for what Catholics, call purgatory. I'm too lazy to look up the scripture that actually says, "the dead know nothing", or the one that says God is "not the God of the dead". Nor do I understand your statement.

@eltonron1558 3 жыл бұрын

@@jb-vg4cb Ecclesiastes 9:5

@jb-vg4cb 3 жыл бұрын

@@eltonron1558 am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; philippians 1:23 why is Paul saying this if he is going to sleep? Revelation 6:9-11And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. This is the most clear bible verse that shows that the soul is living and conscious in heaven or hell WHY ARE THESE SOALS IN HEAVEN CRYING IN THERE SLEEP? And please show me the biblical evidence of purgatory Hope youl reply with your thoughts 🙂

@jb-vg4cb 3 жыл бұрын

@@eltonron1558 God Of The Living Jesus made it clear that God was the God of the living. In speaking of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, He said. Now He is God not of the dead, but of the living; for to Him all of them are alive (Luke 20:38). So whether you are in hell or heaven you are alive to him

@jasonreformedbaptist6842 3 жыл бұрын

Doctrine of Conversion/Regeneration - Saving Faith V Intellectual Faith.

@anthonymccarthy4164 4 жыл бұрын

Jesus said God is the God of the living, not God will be the God of the living, he said those who had died live in God. It's clear from the Transfiguration that Elijah and Moses were living and could talk with the transfigured Jesus. I don't find NT Wright especially convincing on this point.

@Kirkee7 5 жыл бұрын

A very ambiguous, soft and woolly comment . Do all go to this blissful place, the wicked and the just ?

@joscwea16 4 жыл бұрын

Would love to know (1) if Wright thinks this "being with Christ" is a conscious but non-physical (disembodied) existence. If so, then it answers (2) the question of "where?" Non-physical things don't have spatial location (or extension), so if disembodied conscious existence (i.e., "being with Christ") is the case after death, then we would *exist* in the same way as other non-physical entities (e.g., angels and God): without spatial location. Doesn't mean we don't exist and aren't conscious, but does mean that the question of "where" is a category mistake like asking how many mile are the the color yellow, or how much C-Sharp weighs. Is such existence imaginable? Yes. Read Bishop Berkeley who described an objective "ideal" existence of non-physicality in great detail. See too, the work of H.H. Price (1953) who interacted with CS Lewis in Oxford's Socratic Club on this very topic.

@trentrossdale638 Жыл бұрын

I would very much like clarification on this as well.

@paulhewitt3069 Жыл бұрын

So, no one really knows where Auntie Maud is?

@josephgriffiths3938 5 жыл бұрын

About baptism, Wright, quite wrongly, confuses water baptism with spiritual baptism. The baptism that saves is that performed by the Holy Spirit whereby the person is engrafted into Christ and made a participating in his salvific work.

@patrickmay6696 5 жыл бұрын

Read John 3 again

@brotherbroseph1416 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry. Your pastor misunderstood this along with most of “evangelical” “Christianity”. Peter says in the NT that “baptism now saves you”. Why did he say “now”? It’s because Jews along w Jewish schismatic and esoteric groups practiced baptism before Christ and Peter both said it now saves you. www.calledtocommunion.com/2010/01/baptism-now-saves-you-some-more-prolegomena/

@gjeacocke 5 жыл бұрын

‘Now’ rather than the mosaic law. Baptism represents faith in christ. You are not saved until jesus returns. So peter would be wrong if you go for a literal view of peter. He means it as a comparison. Remember peter was a jew before being a christian jew. Jews were under mosaic law.

@stevebilliter 5 жыл бұрын

What did Jesus say in John 3? John 3:5 Jesus answered, Truly, truly, I say to you, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. He says we must be baptized by immersion in water--and converted by the Holy Spirit. There are special circumstances though--the thief on the cross could not be water baptized, but Jesus Himself indicated he would be in paradise--but only at the 1st resurrection. The misplaced comma makes it look as though the thief went to heaven then--but he didn't--he still awaits that resurrection. Punctuation, and placement of chapter and verse divisions are not inspired. Luke 23:43 And Jesus said to him, Truly I say to you, To day shall you be with me in paradise.(AKJV) Watch what happens when the comma is put where it belongs: Luke 23:43 And Jesus said to him, Truly I say to you to day, shall you be with me in paradise. In other words, Jesus is telling him today, not tomorrow or yesterday. Jesus Himself did not ascend that day He died: Joh 20:16 Jesus said to her, Mary. She turned herself, and said to him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Joh 20:17 Jesus said to her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brothers, and say to them, I ascend to my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. This is Sunday morning when He resurrected--then He makes a quick trip to heaven and back--to make sure the Father accepted His sacrifice.

@pathumus8093 3 жыл бұрын

We are confident, I say and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present WITH the lord 1st Corinthians 5:8 Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it Ecclesiastes 12:7 Jesus said to the thief beside him on the cross, today you will be with me in paradise.

@jwalk6074 8 ай бұрын

Does no favours for the living if we're not clear and honest about dying either in Christ or in our sins...the rich man pleaded someone tell his brothers not to make his mistake and end up in torments! We need bold gospel preaching, with that other John chapter 3 verse:(v36) He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not (alternatively: "not subject to"/"not obedient to") the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

@Anon.5216 Жыл бұрын

Purgatory, the halfway house. Where the soul is being sanctified before entry into Heaven. Read the FULL Bible, i.e. the Jerusalem Bible. Protestant bibles have seven books missing, removed by Luther, and parts of Ruth and other books. Catholics also believe in asking the Saints to intercede for us to Jesus and we also pray directly to Jesus.

@radupavel5481 3 жыл бұрын

There is something being ignored here. The passage of time doesn't need to be the same. Even in modern theoretical physics we know time is relative. Where are they now? It is possible nowhere, the question is WHEN are they. When they will be resurrected. From their perspective, there might be no time passage between their death and resurrection; and this can be resurrection into life or into death. All will stand before God at that Judgement day right? So then when Jesus tells the teachers of the law that He is before Abraham and Abraham knows him... I am not trying to imply any silly time-travel notion going on here, just simply stating that our experience with the passage of time does not limit God.

@scarletpumpernickel3353 3 жыл бұрын

There are a few doctrines in the Bible which are ambiguous -- a few by divine design perhaps.. and maybe a couple by tampering. Either way.., the correct answer will not cause my car mechanic to work any faster. 😇 Sincerely yours, Martin Heidegger

@anselman3156 5 жыл бұрын

The Holy Spirit is God. God is not "shaped by" us. Creatures do not "shape" God. God shapes creatures.

@stevebilliter 5 жыл бұрын

Amen! I agree with you on this point--The Holy Spirit is a divine part of the Godhead--we have 3 Persons--The Father, the Son, or Jesus--also named the Word, and the Holy Spirit. This guy, though perhaps sincere, was off on the statement that "we" shape the Spirit. The NT is clear that the HS guided and directed the Church as He does now. On earth, I believe the Holy angels and the Spirit are the only representatives of God on the earth now--until the second coming of Jesus. How can God's creatures shape or direct God? No way!

@tmc3494 4 жыл бұрын

I may be wrong, but I think he may be alluding to the fact that anyone involved in an intimate relationship with another can and will be impacted by that life. I agree that God is not shaped by us, but we and our actions do impact His heart and shape His experience with us. Any relationship one enters into will in some way impact both parties and form some measure of change as they learn how to continue to relate to each other on their journey together.

@edmundwong5571 4 жыл бұрын

@@tmc3494 Don't see anything wrong with that. That sounds like a very legit point to me. Off the top of my head, Paul says that believers can grieve the H.S., the Father received the prodigal son back with gladness and with deep celebration. I like wright's point

@andrewmartin6445 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that was a ludicrous and heretical statement.

@radupavel5481 3 жыл бұрын

chill out people... yes shaped is the wrong word, he is speculating and thinking out loud. he isn't forming theology at that point; i think it's clear he means to say all humans are recognized and remembered by the Spirit... personally i doubt this is something we will find answers to. I still think the problem people are having is getting caught up on the wrong point of reference regarding time. As if God is somehow bound by the human experience of the passage of time.

@yeahsure9035 3 жыл бұрын

To b absent in the body is to be present with The Lord ✝.

@marymackenzie7254 4 жыл бұрын

News

@sappo504 3 жыл бұрын

huh?

@benf101 Жыл бұрын

From the perspective of the dead, they are either immediately and consciously with God, or they blank out and wake up thousands of years later without any sense of time having passed. There is no difference. Just like I didn't notice the 6000 years before I was born, I won't notice any time passing between my life on earth and resurrection with Jesus. That's just my current estimation. I am not adamant on this. It just seems that way.

@tinajohnson5990 4 жыл бұрын

Really? I think he was very clear...we will be with Jesus Christ waiting for the resurrection of all who are in Christ! What more could you want than that?

@chunnagangmei7968 4 жыл бұрын

@Bryson Cole which translation is this?

@user-ou3rc5nk6m Жыл бұрын

Deuteronomy 18;15-22Confirmation Mat.5;17 ( Two parts Laws (forever) The true prophesy( for the life of the prophet) Period.

@christopherwhite9260 5 жыл бұрын

How can this question be answered by just discussing what happens to believers without any reference to Hell and the judgement to come for those who refuse to believe ?

@patrickmay6696 5 жыл бұрын

The question wasn't regarding "hell" or "judgment"

@jonyxy777 5 жыл бұрын

In any case, he doesn't believe in a literal everlasting hell with a real lake of fire and worms and the like.

@ianhall3822 3 жыл бұрын

"Let the dead bury the dead" said Jesus. Luke 9 verse 60. That's the only job they will have.

@Zndwls 5 жыл бұрын

N. T. Wright is unclear about heaven. The true believers who have already died are with Jesus in heaven. Call it first heaven, second heaven, third heaven, paradise, or whatever you like, it is heaven ALREADY. Let us pray God to clarify His inspired Word sharply to Professor Wright. I pity his muddled thoughts about heaven, this side of resurrection. Jesus sat after His ascension at the right hand of God! Jesus is in heaven ALREADY - and so are the dearly departed true believers!

@andrewmartin6445 3 жыл бұрын

@Bryson Cole And also what would be the point of the Last Judgement?

@stevebilliter 5 жыл бұрын

The best translation for state of the dead texts is the NIV--but I don't recommend it as a study Bible. It also gets correct who the 24 elders are--strong angels--not the redeemed. To make a long story short, everyone who has died awaits either the first, or second resurrection except for: Enoch who was translated to heaven without seeing death--as was Elijah--and Moses was raised from the dead we know because he was with Elijah on the Mt. of Transfiguration. Then there was an unknown number that were raised at Christ's death and appeared to many for 40 days. Those, whom we have no names or number, were taken to heaven with Jesus in Acts 1--even though it does not say specifically that--but here's what Paul said: Eph 4:8 Why He said, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts to men. These are the ones He led: Mat_27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, Mat_27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared to many. Other than these, no one is in heaven now--they sleep in Christ awaiting the 2nd coming--or if not saved--they are raised after the 1000 years to be judged unworthy of eternal life, and burned up in hellfire--there is no eternally burning hellfire--that is a doctrine straight from Satan. Consider: 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. So, if the dead in Christ, are already in heaven what do we do with this? Are the dead in Christ just before His coming going to quickly jump back in the grave and be resurrected? No. Or we have a great many contradictions. What did Jesus say about Lazarus before He resurrected him? Joh_11:11 These things said he: and after that he said to them, Our friend Lazarus sleeps; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. Joh_11:14 Then said Jesus to them plainly, Lazarus is dead. Christ reckons death as a sleep--an unconscious sleep. Lazarus had nothing to say about "being in heaven" while he was dead. Notice these verses: Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Ecc 9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. The dead are dead--they do not go anywhere until Jesus comes, if saved. Ecc 9:10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, where you go. No, your great-grandma a fine Christian, is not in heaven looking down upon you--she and granddad are both awaiting the first resurrection--sleeping in Christ. The parable in Luke 16, are not real facts--Lazarus and the rich man is a parable that Jesus based upon the Pharisees and Jewish false beliefs about the state of the dead--an attempt by Jesus to teach truth--that there is no second chance for salvation. About man's death: Psa 146:4 His breath goes forth, he returns to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. In that very day man's thoughts perish; his "soul" or "spirit" does not fly away to heaven or hell. These are merely words for something else. Soul is the entire being, man is a living soul. Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul(AKJV). Ecc_12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return to God who gave it. The spirit here is simply the life force, and God keeps a perfect record of us for the resurrections--imagine if you will a back-up of a hard drive--is one way to explain it. The Hebrew here for spirit is ruach--here is Strong's definition, with the proper words marked: H7307 רוּחַ⁠ rûach roo'-akh From H7306; wind; by resemblance breath, that is, a sensible (or even violent) exhalation; **figuratively life**, anger, unsubstantiality; by extension a region of the sky; by resemblance **spirit, but only of a rational being (including its expression and functions**): - air, anger, blast, breath, X cool, courage, mind, X quarter, X side, spirit ([-ual]), tempest, X vain, ([whirl-]) wind (-y). Total KJV occurrences: 378 So "spirit" is a copy of the person that God keeps for his/her resurrection--"figuratively life" fits rather well, as does "spirit, but only of a rational being (including its expression and functions." Finally, I'll try and explain Rev. 20: the first part. Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark on their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that has part in the first resurrection: on such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. "This is the first resurrection." actually goes with verse 4, at the end--not verse 5. Because the 2nd resurrection is that of the wicked unsaved. And did not Paul say here: 1Cor 6:3 Know you not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? This goes with Rev. 20:4, when during the 1000 years in heaven, the saints will help meet out the judgment of the wicked and of evil angels. Satan will burn the longest, because even he will not burn for eternity--here's the proof: Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day comes, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yes, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that comes shall burn them up, said the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. (Satan the root of all evil--his followers are the branches). Mal 4:2 But to you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and you shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. Mal 4:3 And you shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, said the LORD of hosts. All Bible scholars know that Eze 28 is about Lucifer--or Satan. Eze 28:16 By the multitude of your merchandise they have filled the middle of you with violence, and you have sinned: therefore I will cast you as profane out of the mountain of God: and **I will destroy you, O covering cherub,** from the middle of the stones of fire. [the stones of fire are angels] Eze 28:18 You have defiled your sanctuaries by the multitude of your iniquities, by the iniquity of your traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the middle of you, it shall devour you, and **I will bring you to ashes** on the earth in the sight of all them that behold you. Eze 28:19 All they that know you among the people shall be astonished at you: you shall be a terror, and **never shall you be any more.** And one more--back to Rev. 20: Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and **devoured them. ** Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. I'll explain forever and ever in another post--it simply means here "from one age to another" or "until it's done." The KJV translators believed the false doctrine of an eternally burning hellfire--that's what it says this. God does not "scare saints into heaven" this is a doctrine of devils.

@Kirkee7 5 жыл бұрын

Everyone who has died awaits the general resurrection of the dead and living. What is not mentioned is the separation of the sheep and the goats a Judgement which will determine the final destination.

@lindayoder5425 4 жыл бұрын

Most of this sounds right on. Not sure we can take the symbolism of Revelation as literal, however.

@trentrossdale638 Жыл бұрын

Uh-huh. 🙄👏

@robertbusuttil7848 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your study,and that is exactly what I teach..

@greatsea 4 жыл бұрын

N.T. Wright does not believe in conscious, tangible existence apart from the physical body. But the Bible does. When your dad dies he either goes to heaven or hell, and he is a very conscious and a very feeling creature when he gets there.

@fromanabe8639 4 жыл бұрын

No one "goes" anywhere after death. When you die, that's it. You're awaiting the resurrection. Humans do not possess a immortal "soul". They ARE a "living soul". > The confusion comes from a misreading of Gen 2:7 :(KJV) "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man >became a living soulliving thing< in the sea died". So when the Bible speaks of a "soul" it merely means a living creature, >any< living creature, including animals and insects. > Humans are purely corporeal creatures that exist entirely within a human body. There is no ethereal, immaterial ghost-like soul that goes anywhere. If humans can leave their body and exist elsewhere as a spirit, then what is the point of the resurrection?

@briangc6104 4 жыл бұрын

The UNBELIEVER is first in a place called Hades, the place of departed spirits, from which place they will be resurrected for judgement of their works and final and everlasting confinement to the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:12-15). Salvation is not of works, but of faith in Christ our Redeemer and Saviour.

@fromanabe8639 4 жыл бұрын

Jesus never told the thief he would be with him in paradise THAT DAY. > The new testament was written in Greek which had no punctuation. The comma before the word "today" was inserted hundreds of years later by translators and is misplaced. If it goes anywhere it should be after the word today. Then Jesus tells the thief: I'm telling you now, this day, that you will someday be with me in Paradise. > Jesus didn't go to Paradise or anyplace else THAT DAY. He went to the tomb and was there for three days. Therefore he couldn't possibly have meant the thief would be "with him" "that day". > So what did Jesus mean by Paradise? There are two occurrences or “epochs” of Paradise. Both occur on the earth. The first occurrence, “Paradise 1” was the earth immediately following creation. There was no hunger, no sickness, no aging, and no death. In other words: “Paradise”. Adam and Eve and their progeny would have lived forever had they not sinned. But that “Paradise” was lost by their sin. > “Paradise 2” also occurs on the earth after the resurrection and judgement when God remakes the earth to be similar to what it was in the creation. Once again, there will be no hunger, no sickness, no aging, and no death. The redeemed will live forever sinless on the new earth in Jesus’ kingdom. It is “Paradise 2” of which Jesus spoke to the thief on the cross. > So the "Paradise" of which Jesus spoke does not exist at present. Therefore, no one is currently in "Paradise".

@radupavel5481 3 жыл бұрын

again... the point of reference regarding time doesn't have to be so simple. God isn't bound by our experience of the passage of time. I think we are all putting too much into this. space (physical space) itself is connected to the passage of time.

@strattgatt5303 2 жыл бұрын

Jesus says "today you will be with me in paradise" then goes into the heart of the earth for 3 days and wanders around earth for 40 days. Paradise isn't heaven above.

@michaeldukes4108 3 жыл бұрын

0:36 Did he know and accept Christ as his savior? He’s in His presence. Was he an atheist, agnostic or member of a different faith? He’s in Hades. Unfortunate, but pretty straightforward.

@petermarshall7882 Жыл бұрын

Wright knows the Bible extremely well but that does not mean he knows what happens after death. If he was to be honest he would state clearly, I don't know. Instead he takes ideas expressed by St Paul and puts them across as fact. Paul was intitled to his imaginings, as we all are, but to regard them as factual knowledge is surely folly. I get the feeling Tom Wright is using people's desire for certainty as the basis on which he can spin stories to satisfy them and keep his brand strong. I appreciate Wright's Bible knowledge but not how he uses it.

@bobmoore5242 4 жыл бұрын

Paul has confused you folks. Clear your head and focus on Jesus: I am not saying or trying to imply that Paul is a bad man, but he is not necessary for your salvation and causes you to lose focus on Jesus. 1. Believe in Jesus and be saved. 2. Live with Jesus in Paradise (hades for the non believer). 3. Be born again, live to the age of an old tree on the new earth. New earth is not the Kingdom of God 4. Resurrection to the white throne judgement for both believers and non believers with destination: Kingdom of God for believers and lake of fire for non believers.

@bobmoore5242 4 жыл бұрын

Can I send you a PDF collection of the scriptures that lead me to these conclusions? I don't ask you for anything to put in the collection plate.

@pig5267 4 жыл бұрын

Its amazing! Its 2019 and people still believe in life after death! I wonder if santa is real?

@commentconnoisseur1001 4 жыл бұрын

I never understand this "santa" objection. Here the theistic explanatory power is greater - if we are left deciding between presents coming for nowhere and coming from santa, Santa seems more believable every day of the week, and every year in time - including 2019 and 2020.

@andymanser1 3 жыл бұрын

Twat

@raffaelegibellini667 Жыл бұрын

So why are you listening to a Christian video if you are not a believer. You should get to know Jesus because without him you will never know the truth Jesus says I am The Way The Truth and the life.

@jackjones3657 5 жыл бұрын

Wherever Christ is, that is heaven. Absent with the body and present with the Lord. I do not follow his thinking that there is any difference in a future heaven and what any deceased believers are now experiencing. This seems very convoluted.

@nathanvantwisk5729 5 жыл бұрын

This is not simply Wright's opinion, the Bible says clearly that there is a difference between the current Heaven and the New Heaven. I would recommend reading 1st Corinthians 15 and Revelations 21-22. There will one day be a bodily Resurrection of the Saints within a New Heaven and New Earth, which is heavily alluded to by both Jesus and Paul. The Resurrection of the Saints is integral to all Protestant and Orthodox Christian theology and has been preached since the Apostles.

@hereweare9096 4 жыл бұрын

The earth was created for people to live on. Adam and Eve were put on earth to live forever. They lost that opportunity for us. That is why Jesus came to Earth to restore. The beautiful truth is found in the Bible. We look to Jesus words at John 11:11-15 After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.” 12 His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.” 13 Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep. 14 So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead, 15 and for your sake I am glad I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him.” Here Jesus likened death to being asleep. An unconscious state. In verses 23, 24 we read - Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” 24 Martha answered, “I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.” A resurrection will take place. At John 5:28,29 - Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out-those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. These again are Jesus OWN WORDS. A future resurrection will take place. The Bible states at Ecclesiastes 9:5 - For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten Vs 10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom. So we see death is an unconscious sleep like state. People await a FUTURE resurrection as Jesus states. God's original plan for humans to enjoy life forever on earth will be restored. Revelation 21:3,4 - And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” NIV This is why Jesus came to Earth to restore the opportunity to live forever on earth that Adam lost. Psalm 37:29 - And the righteous ones inherit the Earth and dwell upon it for eternity.

@markchaveriat784 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone dies and goes to the grave. The concept of a disembodied spirit comes from mythology. Ecclesiastes says when you die your spirit returns to God, which means your breath. The same breath or spirit that God breathed into Adam’s nostrils when he became a living soul. When your breath or spirit leaves your body, you are dead. You remain dead until the resurrection. Just as Jesus breathed his last breath, “into your hands I commit my spirit”, he died, went into the grave until the resurrection. 1 Cor.15 spells it out very clearly, every man will rise from the grave in a specific order. Christ first, then those who are Christ’s at his coming. Then comes the end after Christ puts everything under subjection, the rest of mankind will rise, be brought through God’s judgment, so the God will be all in all. So to the question, Where do we go when we die? The grave. Everyone.

@Kitty-zd7qp 4 жыл бұрын

It is not very difficult to say where the dead are (believer with Christ, unbeliever away from Christ), but as this man is from hell, he will never say...

@fromanabe8639 4 жыл бұрын

@lukewagner8871 4 жыл бұрын

1 Corinthians 15:16-23 KJVS [16] For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: [17] And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. [18] Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. [19] If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. [20] But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. [21] For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. [22] For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. [23] But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

@josephgriffiths3938 5 жыл бұрын

Why is he so reluctant to say that the souls of the departed, those who died in Christ, are now in heaven? Heaven is an interim place, where the disembodied soul will stay until it is reunited with a new glorified physical body. A body that will dwell upon a new earth, in a new heavens. Wright's explanation, like with much of his theology, is unreasonably convoluted.

@anselman3156 5 жыл бұрын

Phillip Griffiths. I have noticed this tendency in many modern theologians. The tendency is to stress that the Christian hope is entirely bound up with the renewal of the earth and physical resurrection. Some deny the survival of consciousness on the death of the body. Others treat the state of the departed souls as some kind of shadowy sheol. This is a denial of the Scriptural truth of the present reality of the Heavenly Jerusalem, the abode of the spirits of the just made perfect. St Paul tells us to set our affections on things above, not on things on earth. Many modern theologians wish to have Christians preoccupied with this dying world. The Church has, from the beginning, affirmed the blessed state of the righteous dead with Christ in Heaven, and the faithful longed, with St Paul, to depart and be with Christ, as to die is gain. It has always taught the resurrection of the body and the creation of the New Earth, but did not teach that the beatific vision was deferred until then. I think in modernism we see a concession to materialist views emanating from unbelief, tied to an agenda to make people think only the present political, social and environmental issues should concern them.

@tr889 5 жыл бұрын

Because,unfortunately, the answer is not that simple...I would recommend watching this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGWqpYiVp9Z5rdk&list=FLJ85Hw_iZPR7lLvWwF4oPjw&index=4 and reading Immortal by Lex Meyer (found on Amazon) (he also has some youtube video teachings that are good)

@andykennedy2993 5 жыл бұрын

Yes too many quote a verse or two out of context or parrot a traditional view they learned as a child but never bothered to analyze and thus quickly reject the thoughtful insights from the leading New Testament scholar alive today.

@anselman3156 5 жыл бұрын

@@andykennedy2993 You are suggesting that a 21st century scholar has more insight than the scholars and theologians of the Church through the ages. You are also wrong to be contemptuous of people, falsely alleging that those who criticize your hero have not deeply studied and pondered things themselves.

@proudhon100 5 жыл бұрын

I suppose it depends on which scholars and theologians. You will get an entriely different view from John Calvin (with his Augustine worship) than you will get from someone like Athanasius.

@mikenicholson7465 5 жыл бұрын

:41 Is this a statement from N.T. that he believes that water baptism + faith is what saves?

@foongsteven 5 жыл бұрын

No... he clearly said that in the case where one has faith and is baptised then it's easy for him to say where this person is after they die. For those who are not, then N.T. said that God is the one who will be the judge of that.

@mikenicholson7465 5 жыл бұрын

@@foongsteven I still am not sure that we're not dipping our toes into the soteriological waters of baptismal regeneration with his statement.

@patrickmay6696 5 жыл бұрын

@@mikenicholson7465study the historic teaching of the Church concerning baptism and there you will find peace. Also what does St. Peter say concerning baptism. What does St. Paul say concerning baptism?

@foongsteven 5 жыл бұрын

@@mikenicholson7465 I can certainly understand your concern although I do think that there is enough space in NT's statement for some nuanced position. Perhaps he does hold to some form of baptismal regeneration. Or perhaps he thinks that anyone who is of faith will certainly accept baptism and one who is wishy-washy (pun unintended) about it may not actually possess genuine faith. If he meant the former then I am with you. But it is hard to tell from just that one phrase.

@hereweare9096 4 жыл бұрын

@soonhietan3319 Жыл бұрын

It is up to us to accept the prophecy of John the Baptist, Jesus or any of the New Testament writers such as Paul the apostle that the Kingdom of God was near (when they spoke in their life time in the first century) and the prophecy was fulfilled historically in 70CE when Jerusalem and the Temple were desolated ( the end of the Age). If you accept these facts, Jesus had indeed returned at the end of the Age to fulfil all promises to the patriarchs of Israel , by resurrection of the dead and the living , to Mount Zion, the heavenly Jerusalem, Hebrews 12:22-28. This was the new heaven and the new earth, the Kingdom of God for all the righteous people of God in the heavenly realm. So the simple answer to the question “where are all the righteous people of God who pass on today?” is : they are in Mount Zion, the heavenly Jerusalem, in the body of Christ and in the presence of God. It is not a hope but a reality. Is’t it wonderful?

@phillipsugwas Жыл бұрын

A suggestion. To the Greek thinkers, think like a Hebrew. To those who conflate issues ,the same. To all - listen again. Revelation 22. It seems the garden is coming back.

@rogersacco4624 4 ай бұрын

With no money ? Just go please

@otherworld11 2 жыл бұрын

this is a problem for christians - where do we go when we die? to heaven?

@benf101 Жыл бұрын

This guy seems really intelligent but I have trouble believing that the Holy Spirit is allowing us and our beliefs to shape who He is. I mean, in a round about way, if you say we are one with the Spirit then our beliefs are a part of the Spirit... maybe... but I think that really sends the wrong message.

@dianeovenden 2 жыл бұрын

Luke 16:19-31, Jesus was in the belly of the earth for 3 day and 3 nights He did not go straight to heaven. But He got the keys to death and now owns us. Gehenna is the lake of fire/ hell. No one is there yet!

@billyback1038 2 ай бұрын

When they die, they go immediately to either heaven or hell. Now, how hard was that to say without taking a thirty minute video to explain it. If you don't believe this, you've better keep reading. When Jesus died on the cross, he went down into hell and paradise to preach to the souls who before he died did not have the opportunity to go to heaven. After he died, with Jesus being the first, was allowed to follow Jesus into heaven. People are not laying in their graves. Nobody ever laid in their graves in a sleep state. They never lost conciousness after they died, they just went our of this body into the spirit body. So if you have babies that have died, they are in heaven waiting for you. Make sure you go so you can be with them.

@jeanicejma1779 4 жыл бұрын

the word salad is strong with this Wright dude.

@bible4family 3 жыл бұрын

The answer is simple. When one dies, they are dead. They will be resurrected at the last day when Christ returns. If they are in Christ, they will be resurrected to life everlasting. If they are not in Christ then they will be judged and sentenced to the Lake of Fire where they will die a second time and never live again. An eternal death sentence.

@richardsnaith6260 3 жыл бұрын

Not true, you die and that's it for iternity.

@bible4family 3 жыл бұрын

Are you a Bible believer?

@tonywiggins8073 Жыл бұрын

His dad is dead and buried just like we all are or will be unless alive and are part of God’s Elect at Christ’s future appearing (2nd Coming & 1st Resurrection)! The rest of the dead rise after the 1000 yr reign and at the 2nd resurection! 🗝Is figuring out how to be part of the 1st resurection!🗝 The thief beside Christ on the stake did NOT go to heaven that day. He is still dead and buried just like King David who is dead and buried and his tomb is w/us to this day (Acts 2:29). They spoke in idioms back then! Orig scripture did NOT have punctuation, man added it! And after man added punctuation it depends on where the comma is placed! The idiom goes as follows: (Luke 23:43) For assuredly I tell you today, “YOU will be with me in paradise!” OR "Assuredly, I say to you today, you will be with Me in Paradise." He was assuring the thief that when God’s Kingdom comes (in the future) The "Paradise" of which Jesus spoke wasn't heaven, but the Eden-like world to which the man would be resurrected according to God's plan Christ is telling him he will be with Christ then! Not that day for even Christ didn’t go to paradise (or what ppl think is heaven) that day for He was dead and buried for 3 days & 3 nights just as He said Jonah was in the belly of the great fish (72 hours). 2 Cor 12:2-4 Paul describes a vision in which he "was caught up into Paradise." Paul says this paradise was in "the third heaven"-the dwelling place of God. Jesus tells us that "the tree of life" is located "in the midst of the Paradise of God" (Rev 2:7). Rev 22:2 explains that the tree of life is to be in the New Jerusalem. God will come from heaven with this New Jerusalem (Rev 21:2-3) after the resurrections of the dead mentioned in Rev 20. Only at that time will men dwell with God in this paradise. The restoration of the land of Israel that will take place under the coming reign of Christ is compared in Isaiah 51:3 to the Garden of Eden-again, paradeisos in the Septuagint. Putting together all those scriptures, we can see that the paradise Christ mentioned, in which men will dwell with God in His Kingdom, is to be at a future time. Paul even said Christ died & was in the tomb for 3days. 1 Corinthians 15:3-4: "For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures." This is how ppl inaccurately translated it and ppl unknowingly read it: For assuredly I tell you, “TODAY you will be with me in paradise!” OR "Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Makes a big difference where the comma was placed! Look at other scriptures and see what & how the idiom was used: Deu 30:18 "I announce to you today that you shall surely perish" Acts 20:26 "Therefore, I declare to you today that I am innocent of the blood of all men" Also note what scripture says happens when we die: Ecless 9:5-6 5. For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. John 3:13 No one has ascended in to heaven except He who came down from heaven, the Son of man (Christ)! THINK ABOUT IT! If when we die and we go to heaven or “so called modern version of” hell. What the purpose of a resurrection? Btw scripture describes 3 different translations for Hell! 1. Hell/Sheol/Hades is simply the grave! Yes where we are normally buried! That’s it! A dirt pit! 2. Hell - Gehenna this was a valley in Jerusalem (still exist but isn’t on fire) it existed in Christ’s day and it was a continuous burning fire where they burned trash, refuse and even criminals. This is where Christ compares it to an unquenchable fire OR the Lake of 🔥Fire🔥 where the Beast, False prophet and unbelievers will eventually be cast to die an eternal death and become ashes under the feet of the righteous. 3. Tartarus/Tartaroo - This is ONLY reserved for the everlasting chained angels who sinned against God! No humans are there!

@Jamie-Russell-CME 3 жыл бұрын

they are in the grave. Returning to dust

@trentrossdale638 Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry......whaaaat????🙄

@oseiadomako6057 2 жыл бұрын

He is confused!

@tedprice5828 Жыл бұрын

J,Esau’s must be lonely, being the only live person in heaven

@no42arak-st-floor44 Жыл бұрын

paradise is derived from Persian "Pardicee".

@ianhall3822 2 жыл бұрын

Jesus did not believe in an Afterlife. If he did, he would not have tried to raise people from the dead.

@keithcoleman1729 4 жыл бұрын

Luke 16:19

@Hithere-ek4qt 4 жыл бұрын

stop quoting that buy-bull. It is just a fictitious , ancient book.

@deanbrunton4377 3 жыл бұрын

Man made books to give us man made answers. I will never fault anyone for their beliefs, but the bible is a creation of man, not God. It is our human understanding and imagination of death that says these things. I for one really hope I am wrong.

@eltonron1558 3 жыл бұрын

You are wrong, but only half wrong. Yes, written by men, but inspired by God. If it wasn't documented that God spoke, and heard by many, (at least 3 times), you would have been ALL right.

@dermotoneill7115 Жыл бұрын

It's wonderful how you purport nonsense so articulately 😊

@ianhall3822 3 жыл бұрын

Jesus spoke a load of nonsense about Heaven. You won't recognise anyone because "People in Heaven do not marry" Matthew 22 verse 30. and "I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance". Luke 15 verse 7. Absolute gibberish. People in heaven with their binoculars getting excited when they see someone trotting off to Confession. What about all the misery in Heaven when they also peer through their binoculars and see wars, famines, disease, children dying of starvation? C'mon, Tom. Give us an answer.

@jesuschristiscallingyou953 5 жыл бұрын

If someone is asked a question that should be clearly answered and instead runs around the question, the person doesn't know the answer. That is your red flag. If the Bible has a clear answer and you dislike it and seek an answer from another source, you will get that deceitful answer that is easier for you to receive. Jesus gave clear answers to everyone. Nothing He answered was convoluted or hard to understand. He talked about the payment of sin. He talked about God's Kingdom. He talked about how He and the Father are one thing. He talked about how He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Jesus talked about the narrow path and how just a few will walk it. He talked about how most of mankind will perish, because THEY REJECTED HIS SALVATION. The world wants a good afterlife without being compliant to the Authority who decides where you will spend eternity. Jesus spoke clearly. You either die with Him or without Him, just like one thief repented and died with Him at the cross while the other did not repent of his sins and did not acknowledge Jesus was God. That's God's love for the world. He provided a way out for us. We either follow Jesus or get lost. People die and reap their due rewards. Jesus said whoever believes in Him and repents shall have everlasting life. Read Mark 16:15-17. It's clear. When you withold the truth to please the world and not hurt their sinful feelings, YOU ARE DENYING JESUS, AND HE WILL DENY YOU. That's the problem with these self-deceived teachers who lack God's annointing and much less are inhabited by his Holy Spirit. They take a few biblical passages that interest them and create their own doctrine that avoids the rest of Jesus' teachings. The gospel of Jesus is a total package. When you minister to others, you talk about salvation and about condemnation, you talk about holiness and you talk about sin. You talk about wheat and you talk about chaff. You talk about the Spirit and you talk about the flesh. 1 Corinthians 2:14 says, "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Judge the intentions of teachers. Do they want you to get closer to Jesus to do his will, or do they want to teach you something? Jesus spoke clearly. Without Him, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR PART IN THE LAKE OF FIRE. He wants you to be saved through Him, but He will not break his Word. If you die without Jesus, you willingly rejected his salvation, and unsaved you died, in sin. If you are a spiritually born-again believer and you're listening to this man, you are disobeying the teachings of Jesus and the warnings of the apostle Paul about how the teachings of Jesus would be twisted and perverted.

@eltonron1558 4 жыл бұрын

For God so loves the world, you can be resurrected to judgement, and still be offered salvation, for God so loves the world.

@vinanddex 3 жыл бұрын

Divine conspiracy of silence = God does not exist

@georgesawtooth2214 Жыл бұрын

You=an even dumber Joe Biden.

@mmmail1969 4 жыл бұрын

Their in Heaven, Purgatory or Hell. If Christ wills it, they will be with Him "in Paradise" or, they will be in a state of preparation for Heaven, in Purgatory [where about 99.9% will spend some time] or sadly, some might not "make the grade" but that's entirely up to all of us, in how we live our lives.

@hereweare9096 4 жыл бұрын

@mmmail1969 4 жыл бұрын

@@hereweare9096 so it's true if Jesus says it is?

@thomasdunn1680 4 жыл бұрын

This man has lost his mind lol

@johncook19 3 жыл бұрын

If you were to examine NTW mind by using factor anslysis, on of the major factors would be an extremely large mental component of mystery, superstition and vivid imagination. one factor would be for a high intelegence quotient . I am sure that one could arrive at several components of his mind that are less active than the two mentioned above. Its a pity that his mind seems adicted to mystery and not evidence. He seems to me to have a need to ignore good evidence as a surgeon of biologist would consider absolutely hard evidence a prerequisite for good surgery or evolution. C'est la vie, has our Christian dieu got it wrong encore?

@midnightexpress726 2 жыл бұрын

Mais voyons donc! T’es fou quoi?? What exactly are you saying??

@david52875 2 жыл бұрын

You are cringe

@midnightexpress726 2 жыл бұрын

@@david52875 You BETTER had not been saying that to me dude.

@david52875 2 жыл бұрын

@@midnightexpress726 I wasn't, but you are also cringe LMFAO

@midnightexpress726 2 жыл бұрын

@@david52875 Wow, you’re a class act you shmuck! Lol

@ervinromero8152 4 жыл бұрын

Everyone will be with Christ, but not everyone will like it.

@farvision 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the opportunity to think through these issue. The question, "My father died. Where is he now?" implicitly makes several assumptions. First, it assumes that the atoms of his body are not the same as the person, that there is some magical thing, a "soul" which is the actual person. But when people measured the weight of this "soul" by comparing the weight of a person before and after death - there was no effect. It is not anything we can measure. Like unicorns and the FSM, it MIGHT exist, but there's no evidence for it. So why believe in unicorns or the FSM? Second, the question assumes that the person is somewhere, but not here on earth. This is also an invalid assumption since all evidence from brain injury indicates that the brain can be degraded while we are alive (e.g. one might not be able to recognized faces, but everything else one can do). Likewise, in Alzheimer's the person slowly loses mental functions. So if the whole brain is gone, this implies that the whole person is gone. The question was invalid. This raises an issue, which is why grown adults, who should know better given the above scientific facts, cling to their childish idea that they will be somewhere after death. It's time to grow up. Just as you were nowhere before birth, you don't exist after. Neither is painful or euphoric.

@20july1944 5 жыл бұрын

Where do you think the universe came from?

@farvision 5 жыл бұрын

I'm not a physicist, but I am a scientist (biologist) so I won't have more than a general answer - which you could look up on the internet. The current data on red shift and microwave background indicate the big bang. If you do not know what the data are, go look them up. For reasons I do not know physicists think that projecting backwards one gets to an extremely tiny hot small volume that contained all the matter/energy of the universe. Somehow they have a timeline attached to it and they know sizes. What was "before" that? Some say that that the initial universe appeared as a fluctuation in the vacuum which would be consistent with particle generation that we know about - look up 'Casimir effect'. In "A Brief History of Time" Stephen Hawking indicated that there was no before. I don't follow the mathematics of that claim. Anyway, there are lots of folks who know more than I about it and you can ask them. Bottom line: claims for how the universe originated before the big bang have no evidence. It could be we budded off a larger multiverse. If we were put here by a god, then this makes the question extremely much WORSE. Any intelligent being had to have evolved in an ecosystem, that's the only mechanism possible. So there had/have to be many gods, the Greeks got it right and the Christians, Muslims and Jews are wrong to have only one god! But now where did all those gods come from? The problem is not solved. Saying "he was always there" is avoiding the problem and so is not acceptable. It's better to cut out the god hypothesis and see if we can figure it out from physics. There's a serious issue of honesty here. Religious claims of god(s) are dishonest because they don't actually know and are pretending to know the answers. Scientists will give several hypotheses (as above) with backing evidence or they will say "I don't know". There is nothing wrong with not knowing an answer. Scientists live with not knowing all the time and push the edge of knowledge further (that's our job!) - and then if we are good at what we do and lucky, we eventually DO know. That's an honest stance. So most scientists are honest, religious people tend to be dishonest.

@20july1944 5 жыл бұрын

@@farvision 1. So this point was far denser than a black hole, right? I can't get anyone to tell me how such density could occur naturally. 2. How big is and how long is an average quantum fluctuation? I can't get anyone to give me an estimate and a distribution curve.

@farvision 5 жыл бұрын

I'm not the right person to ask since I am not a physicist. Nevertheless, I do keep up with science, so here is what I know. 1. yes, it would be far denser than a black hole - it was the entire universe. 2. Look up the Casimir effect.

@20july1944 5 жыл бұрын

@@farvision What natural effect would have induced a quantity of matter/energy to concentrate at a far greater density than a black hole?

@paultrue4408 5 жыл бұрын

N.T. wright is confused you either go to heaven if saved or hell if not. Don`t know why he is sticking up for Roman Catholic Doctrine.

@nathanvantwisk5729 5 жыл бұрын

He's not talking about a Purgatory, but of a waiting for a New Heaven and New Earth before the Resurrection and Final Judgement in a "temporary paradise with Christ". This is all within the Bible, however there is not much information in Scripture beside "paradise" and "with Christ" for the believer, and even less info on those who reject Christ before the Final Judgement. If the Resurrection is not a part of your dogma, I suggest you read 1st Corinthians 15 and study each line of the Nicene Creed (which is believed to be true by all Protestants), because the embodied kingdom of a New Heaven and New Earth under the reign of Jesus is the hope of Scripture, not simply an afterlife after one dies.

@jonyxy777 5 жыл бұрын

@@nathanvantwisk5729 Do you know Wright's view on the afterlife fate of non-Christians? By "non-Christians", I mean: - Those who believe in a God/higher power generally without religious adherence. - Those who are adherents of other faiths. - Those who don't acknowledge God (atheists, agnostics).

@nathanvantwisk5729 5 жыл бұрын

@@jonyxy777 Yes. Wright wrote about it in "Surprised By Hope." He believes in a final judgement that takes place after the resurrection of all peoples. He describes this as "Hell", however he admits that he does not have a good understanding of what this place is based only by what is given in Scripture. He has some grievances with people who gloss over a hell or final judgement.

@jonyxy777 5 жыл бұрын

@@nathanvantwisk5729 I see. But it seems to me from listening to his talks and interviews that he's not in favor of the literal interpretation of hell wherein it's a real physical place filled with real worms, demons and fire where people go to experience everlasting conscious torment. In a lecture, he mentioned that the nations will also be in the remade creation, so obviously he's not of the "become a Christian, go to heaven; otherwise, go to hell" view.

@nathanvantwisk5729 5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Yeo Yes, very much against the “just become a Christian and go to Heaven when you die” view. A big narrative in his theology is that God is on a mission to redeem his creation and his people. This cannot be done if the earth is left to burn and death gets to keep its many victories. He does make a point to say he believes it is conscious, as it is consciousness that has brought one to that judgement. As for the physical reality of it, I don’t remember him making any guesses.