"If your teammate is a slark and hes got a good start, hes a fantastic hero to gank for" should be a mantra
@MainCharactersyndromee10 ай бұрын
POS 3 Enjoyers hear me out. This fish is countered by Centaur. U double edge it on lane and use ur stomp as well. Best support to have with you is Tiny. Keep going at him and you will increase your mmr. I played 23 cent games last 4 days. 12 games against slark 11-1 4k mmr
@Fathomorg10 ай бұрын
6k mmr here; the Centaur-Slark matchup in a vacuum is Slark favored. I also believe there are much stronger support pairings than Tiny in the current meta.
@sc4r21410 ай бұрын
@@Fathomorg What are slark counters for pos 1 2 3
@MainCharactersyndromee10 ай бұрын
@@Fathomorg I would recommend Tiny because if the huge burst it can deal, but I agree there are better supports
@thoughtrover640010 ай бұрын
@@FathomorgCent dumpsters slark in lane. But if you don't win the lane he will be a problem.
@MainCharactersyndromee10 ай бұрын
@@thoughtrover6400 if slark has an active bullying support, its RIP. If his support is semi afk you can punish him well
@berryesseen10 ай бұрын
Let me give you my ability draft notes on Slark. Shadow dance: first pickable skill. Great sustain. You can pick it on any hero. Core is preferred. Essence shift: If you are ranged agi or universal, it is first pickable. If you are ranged int, there are probably better options. If you are a good melee agi such as Jugg, you can pick it but you need to make sure that you have a catching skill (like blink). If the next person in the opponent team is a super strong ranged agi such as Gyro, you can consider denying it because it can snowball so fast. Pounce: not first pickable on any hero. There are always better options than this. As 3rd or 4th pick, you can take it for escape purposes. You can also consider it to exploit multiple aghanims upgrade. Dark pact: not first pickable but you can take it on a super tanky hero like Centaur. Strong dispel is always useful. It comboes well with aftershock too because of relatively short cd, dispel and good damage. Slark model: the only way to make this model work is to go hard support. Take stuns, slows, catching skills, etc. Don't try to force mid, carry or tank because you can't. Slark is one of the worst heroes in the game. People who first pick essence shift on Slark model almost always lose the game. No skill is good enough to turn this model into a core.
@solaire611610 ай бұрын
who the fuck plays ability draft
@berryesseen10 ай бұрын
@@solaire6116 You should try. It's really fun and every game is different by design. Draft phase is far more important than regular Dota because you have to be aware of possible overpowered combinations. Anyway. There is quite a player base. I can find a game in roughly 1 minute in SEA and 3-5 minutes in EU and NA. The players who play AD usually don't play any ranked at all. I play AD regularly but I haven't played a single ranked game for 6 years now. I have played 4k AD games. Another fun thing is that you have to know how to play carry, mid, offlaner, and support pretty well because your role is dictated by the hero model and the pick order. You should really try it. You won't regret.
@berryesseen10 ай бұрын
One more thing. Slark in ability draft is a vibe killer. The hero is almost unplayable. You have to dedicate yourself to hard support to be useful.
@Menace2Killa10 ай бұрын
@@solaire6116 fr dude its trash
@edwardo220510 ай бұрын
God I love ability draft but i’m addicted to mmr number go up. I could read these AD analyses all day
@pcxxy10 ай бұрын
You know slark is good when bsj re-releases yet another slark hero guide 😂
@Kuroina10 ай бұрын
Honestly this type of content what dota need. Telling what to do recover from difficult game.
@ondrahrouda10 ай бұрын
Hey @BSJ, thanks for the guide, but is this with new 7.35c item nerfs in mind? At 20:46 you are talking about items from 7.35b. Did you missspoke or is the build unchanged or can you elaborate on mageslayer VS orchid rush or any early/mid-game item choices?
@itisithedumbfuck583710 ай бұрын
this was recorded for 7.35b patch. Too bad that the update came when he's about to post it
@ChadKakashi9 ай бұрын
Mage slayer is still good on slark
@HappySmilingDog-d7u10 ай бұрын
oh , damn , "slark imprisoning the opponents" that shit stuck in my head. Slark is one of my besties and like monkey man he's been imprisoned , its so cool that he "imprisons" the enemies
@prdelmasaknadlik200410 ай бұрын
Yeah when he said this i got goosebumps, if you consider lore. And my favorite Slark quote is "Your body was a cage. I just set you free".
@jrhodymo933510 ай бұрын
2024 woke$lark
@ghosty402010 ай бұрын
I mean he does have some experience from dark reef prison
@HappySmilingDog-d7u10 ай бұрын
@@prdelmasaknadlik2004 goosebumps? xd , i just find it cool
@hado33_10 ай бұрын
do you need to hit them harder? do you need to hit them faster? do you need a moonshard? do you need a basher? - dr suess
@InvaderZi10 ай бұрын
what do you think of soul ring in slark? i think its an amazing farming item
@jarddog796810 ай бұрын
the range creep bait is actually the one I need thanks my guy
@armorose10 ай бұрын
The best Slark guide ever.
@riteesharul86610 ай бұрын
8:39 whats the difference in making the decision of hitting them faster or hitting them harder ?
@wyvern231810 ай бұрын
generally length of fights and how much you need to burst the one guy who your team can disable for you.
@jannisop710 ай бұрын
Havent watched the video but hasnt slark been nerfed with items and one ability?
@drums349 ай бұрын
You look sneaky exactly like Slark I'm not surprised
@fretbarley93019 ай бұрын
I'm gonna be that told-you-so guy and say I asked BSJ on stream a few months ago about buying blink on slark, he said he thought it didn't seem too good. Looked pretty sexy in that second replay though
@trendead10 ай бұрын
Dude that Microphone is not omni-directional, it's meant to be facing your mouth.
@MewronYT10 ай бұрын
Typical dota 2 player. No knowledge of anything outside their horribly made game that still has more bugs and glitches than an early access survival game on Steam.
@itmeurdad10 ай бұрын
@@MewronYTtypical wannabe KZbinr. Trashy tierlist content with no views and all about other KZbinrs. Not a single thing to say about anything other than KZbinr drama bait
@MrTuneless10 ай бұрын
@@MewronYT My guy you made a tier list of youtubers lmfao. Typical recycled garbage content creator. Not surprised you have no views
@peterjordansonthe2nd73110 ай бұрын
One of the bigger questions that I have: is why do people make Thumbnails with Slark as a Shark?! He looks absolutely nothing like one, in the game, and he's definitely not one
@DUKEHadToDoItToEm10 ай бұрын
@@MewronYT lol did you really come to BSJs channel just to drag DotA players in general? What DotA player hurt your feelings? 😂
@chonkerdoggo713210 ай бұрын
Slark is my favorite as well. Used him on an forgotten patch (2019 or 2020 i think) where I could 2v1 a 5slotted Alchemist and a 4slotted Spectre. Nothing else made me feel like a god in dota2
@John-ih7gp9 ай бұрын
Invoker player enters the chat
@loganknight614610 ай бұрын
Do you need to hit them harder, do you need to hit them faster. Do you need a moon shard, do you need a basher
@foureyes.d3dth9 ай бұрын
I'm hard
@yamasan8310 ай бұрын
Hi BSJ, in second case, why skill essence shift as 2nd level instead of pounce? You're is not fight back, as you said no? So why skill a level in contrast with your mind concept?
@atypicaloddity10 ай бұрын
Thoughts on Diffusal rush now that it has a mana cost? Raindrops aren't really enough to sustain your mana, Dark Pact, and Diffusal
@daninbar344610 ай бұрын
does shard work inside chrono? I at least remember it didn't use too
@xix610 ай бұрын
ty for time and effort
@lazylonewolf8 ай бұрын
I'm just a unranked player, but it's annoying that my teammates do NOT get Slark at all and I get flamed for "running away" when I'm at low health. Especially annoying if both teams are mostly burst damage heroes, so I either get bursted down by the enemy team and get called useless, or be told I don't do enough damage and get called a coward for running away (but surviving with low HP) after stealing a bunch of Agi.
@sephevangelista367510 ай бұрын
What heroes should I not pick Slark?
@Joel2Million10 ай бұрын
thanks BSJ, with the 7.35c patch would you say orchid over mage slayer is like 50% of games? 30%? what sort of ratio should it be built now that the gold difference is 400 smaller and mage slayer got some other nerfs?
@xtranormalCARTOONS8810 ай бұрын
I see mage slayer as just a defensive orchid Both shut down spell casters, but one is better if you're initiating on someone, and one is better if you're being initiated against Orchid also better Vs mobility, mage slayer better Vs heavy magic
@axelnagano36779 ай бұрын
Where is this thumbnail shark from, please i need to know!?!?!?!!😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@himher739110 ай бұрын
Yo BSJ you’re the best! Keep making top quality content ❤
@kinderenocc9 ай бұрын
If your pos 3 and see slark in enemy team, pick elder titan. One of the few offlaners that can actually outdamage him in melee
@PrivilegeYT10 ай бұрын
abusing slark's vision advantage to deward before fights is key. that way during fights you know youre safe, and they can't find you. really frustrating to play against
@Asterix95810 ай бұрын
I don't know much about Slark but I don't understand that why is so good. Being able see that enemy can see you (ward or invis heroes) is strong ability. Other than that other carry heroes are stronger and better spells than Slark in my opinion. Anti-mage, Faceless Void, Alchemist and Slardar feels so much better because they have everything Slark has (mobility and escaping abilities) and they also have stun and better farming skills.
@auto1nfanticid310 ай бұрын
Slark is capable of virtually endless agi scaling in addition to the other aspects of his kit you mentioned. no hero exists in a vacuum, and while he might not be at the top of the carry list, that doesnt matter if you can carry and win with him.
@mugen4359 ай бұрын
loving the videos and all that but did you really need to get advertisement from SAP? like really?
@daniloaragao407310 ай бұрын
I think for porpuses of information it could be usefull if you include the patch version on the description... Just had a patch recently where mage slayer got nerfed, im not sure if it is that good on slark anymore, since orchid is also cheaper now.. Great video tho!
@lazylonewolf8 ай бұрын
In my (unranked) experience and from watching other BSJ vids, Orchid for heroes with blinks/escapes (E.g. Antimage/Puck), Mageslayer for anything else. He should be focusing on one hero at a time anyway though so the nerf to Mageslayer in regards to Slark is minimal. In any case, Slark loves both items for the mana regen and the great build up of Oblivion Staff.
@miroslavbodnar359110 ай бұрын
how do you play him against night stalker and riki (with aoe silences)
@megavore9710 ай бұрын
Bkb
@davidbrown768310 ай бұрын
also disperser
@beatresca10 ай бұрын
How do you know there are wards whenever you deward?
@KiesStaminho9 ай бұрын
HP regen
@sultanbaba12309 ай бұрын
More content where?
@Six_slotted10 ай бұрын
dare you to play some 5 slark on stream. if you can kill in the lane lvl 1-2 you snowball the map harder than like any other support
@FaelCacilhas10 ай бұрын
Please, more of this kind of content!
@whynotbeself10 ай бұрын
How do you know if you are in vision?
@jacobhuntLFC10 ай бұрын
his ults passive regen is disabled when in vision.
@whynotbeself10 ай бұрын
@@jacobhuntLFC huh 🤔 thanks bro
@pcxxy10 ай бұрын
While I've already burnt the directional move+pounce to my muscle memory, i'm really puzzled why valve doesn't change pounce to a point and click spell (ground/hero targeting) so that it won't go in a random direction Sometimes I'm thinking it's meant to troll new players learning to play the hero 😂😂
@jackcarren878110 ай бұрын
Then, you couldn't pounce out of danger or non visible units.
@pcxxy10 ай бұрын
@@jackcarren8781 HUH?
@pcxxy10 ай бұрын
@@jackcarren8781I think you misunderstood - I meant ground targeted spell that controls the direction of the pounce
@markbergh359910 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you
@irregularMovementofarts10 ай бұрын
Who is Melinda and why is she a viper?
@jackcarren878110 ай бұрын
PRO TIP! You can make directional move alt+right-click
@barczi810 ай бұрын
how? :O
@juampimlb17459 ай бұрын
Can we use Slark offlane Bsj ?
@larasoftimpact10 ай бұрын
so much information here
@corneferreira307910 ай бұрын
Pretty sure BSJ said previously that Faceless was his favorite hero
@Kalabanano10 ай бұрын
Slack has been his obvious favorite for the last 8 years at least
@ursula577010 ай бұрын
The best carry in the game without a doubt
@xavestudio462310 ай бұрын
the ultimate dewarding carry pick!
@Loshyad10 ай бұрын
thank you man
@PabloJab10 ай бұрын
my main hero is back yeah
@markmagnolia9 ай бұрын
Slark never gets nerfed
@BoneHeadPlaysGames10 ай бұрын
I've been banning slark a lot recently and this patch buffs him a ton
@l.l.69110 ай бұрын
46 min video about Slark... . Yep, seems like BSJ 😂
@Gwgitu7710 ай бұрын
Nice vid bsj
@Blackshowel10 ай бұрын
wouldnt orchid be a good item in the 2nd game since ww is a major threat with curse
@hardygonzalez895810 ай бұрын
I feel like void is the hardest counter, id the game goes well for faceless its gg
@davidbrown768310 ай бұрын
it's definitely up there but i'd say doom is the hardest counter
@leftbehind135410 ай бұрын
as pos3 enjoyer my boy darkseer bully him early
@Seeker26572910 ай бұрын
Worth noting that with 7.35c the stocks of orchid are up relative to the mage slayer
@Sh4dowM4rsh4L10 ай бұрын
mage slayer is still good on slark, it's been bought on slark for multiple patches already and the orchid buff doesn't take it away.
@dragonvoke29 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: Depth Shroud can cancel duel
@oguzcanoguz597710 ай бұрын
Honestly, I hate slark. I hated him ever since they introduced him to the original DOTA way back then. I think he really does not fit dota and transforms the game into a roller coaster, since he is very snowbally from he getgo and very strong and he is only balanced by the slark players overcommitment. Basically, if there is a decent slark player and he is not countered, you are kind of wait for slark to throw the game. It almost never feels like you win vs slark, (unless you are finishing game early with cheese compositions) but it feels like slarks either lose the game or they win it. If you have a nuke comp to counter slark, then you feel like you are the one winning or losing the game, since slark becomes a non-factor. But if not, then every fight feels like you have to all in slark, to burst him before he can do any actions, or he can always get away and if he gets away, then he will come back to kill you all and you used your big spells so you really do not have a plan against him. And making the games so focused on all-ins just makes the game much worse for me.
@irsyaadkenway10 ай бұрын
45:01 tf DK with a Viper head
@Witteplaag10 ай бұрын
Harder, faster, moon shard, basher
@ZooM-xs4wu10 ай бұрын
Hey guys today ill be doing a guide on how to full report your team
@sebastianbonilla132310 ай бұрын
Slark has never left numb nuts (pick brewmaster)
@CuCbKu19 ай бұрын
Been a little bit out of the loop. Since when was the goofy intro removed? :C
@slugheadtv704410 ай бұрын
Pale Horse should be backk too
@formzero325910 ай бұрын
How is slark good or back? Mage slayer nerf hit Ember and Slark really hard + the additional increased in CD for pounce hurts this hero ALOT. This explains why slark was one of the biggest losers in terms of win rate change along with ember spirit. Not saying this hero is bad, but rather situational and average
@msweeedo10 ай бұрын
Hey BSJ just wondering if I can see your BigSloppyJohnson anytime soon
@shyamsundarrajan246910 ай бұрын
was slark ever been out of meta??
@motchness10 ай бұрын
yep im a support player but slark is my favourite core
@UphillHook10 ай бұрын
If you want to easily kill slark at every stage of the game pick primal mid ezz game
@FrankfurtHoang10 ай бұрын
all of Slark tool make me disgust this creatures, have tons of escape, perfect invi/map control and a dispell hope this hero never be meta again
@TankorSmash10 ай бұрын
Matt Wolfe enjoyer?
@mimema79739 ай бұрын
information gatherer-suppier
@TheChosenOne46210 ай бұрын
wait u cant pounce out of arena, i remember u can?
@rezkiy9510 ай бұрын
Showing off a game against offlane void spirit is kinda useless since its a weak ass 3 lane wise
@longbranchgooberdapple223810 ай бұрын
When BSJ wanna brag about his w/l balance on slark xD
@dbrengman10 ай бұрын
Darc pact
@BenjaminL-xq9oz10 ай бұрын
Yo Bsj
@MsFreekje10 ай бұрын
prefire like
@clvnclmnt10 ай бұрын
CONSENSUALLY. LMAO.
@ilyosjonolimjonov10 ай бұрын
I am winning against slark with my void
@markrayanvaldez413610 ай бұрын
Es Echo lmao
@sonitgorla412510 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention harpoon removes pounce bsj ! As a slark player i know that xd
@Zachrz10 ай бұрын
Besides the great tip to get out of pounce. Slark is the bait for people to either cheat or smurf. Don't approve of this video. slarks mechanics make it easy for him to win solo pub games, Because players like to farm. Slark and sniper need to be deleted for a balanced game
@erikcarantino846610 ай бұрын
I hate this hero so much…
@Sol-hd7pz10 ай бұрын
when slark is strong the meta sucks.
@Differenshit10 ай бұрын
ahahah imagine playing a moba and looking kda xD
@Meyveda10 ай бұрын
I hope Slark is banned every game)
@jonathanfan370910 ай бұрын
Hey first
@jonathanfan370910 ай бұрын
didn't he just get kind of nerfed?
@PrivilegeYT10 ай бұрын
@@jonathanfan3709 small number decrease but overall meta pick is decent vs these hard lock carries like Chrono
@friendlybucket726810 ай бұрын
slark is my favourite pos 5 hero, everyone is so afraid of it they instantly report me. since then im stuck in low prio and behavior is less then 1k :( i like slark pos 5 so much though
@apostolos3dg48110 ай бұрын
Then I guess u deserve it lmao😂
@rhenzfajardo925810 ай бұрын
Pos 5?? 😂
@sonkeschmidt202710 ай бұрын
You sure that your behaviour has nothing to do with these reports? ^^
@prdelmasaknadlik200410 ай бұрын
Like from low mmr perpective Slark pos 5 is THE Greatest Ward Dewarder ever.
@howtheworldworks310 ай бұрын
You favourite hero eats shit on a silver spoon from my carry.