MY FAVORITE GRINDER (so far...): Review of Weber Workshops EG1 V3

[@msj420]

7 mins in and KZbin showed me an ad for private wealth management for the first time. Thanks Lance.

[@weiszCoffee]

As usual love your review. Actually there is a more expensive grinder out there... the Ceado E37Z hero, which I happen to own. If somehow you can get your hands on one. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! do a review and a comparison with the weber. I feel theres still an edge to the Ceado due to the very specific burr set it has but I'm not a professional as you

[@deathkid411]

love how you into the song and then well girls can fight too. hahahah o how times have change.

[@LanceHedrick]

I don't know why they would want to fight, but they have the option ha! I certainly don't want to fight. Just make coffee lol

[@deathkid411]

@@LanceHedrick hahahah

[@timbrakefield8313]

Just curious Lance did your EG-1 come with a free "patina" because my machine came with a nice sized ding right on the bean hopper for all to see. Which Weber Workshops explained the machine was meant to patina. Not to mention they just tossed my Ultra burrs in the box to bounce around like a a $450 pinball....

[@entropy0917]

At that price it just should not stall and need to be fed slowly, even if it is only sometimes. Lance doesn't mind, but I would not be happy.

[@LanceHedrick]

To be clear, it is very rare and only of you do ultra light coffees at espresso settings.

[@user-jm8ky1kn2t]

This was one of the biggest complaints against the Option-O mini which is a fraction of the price and they claim to have fixed by now. Yet the niche is still the recommended grinder for conical burrs

[@TylerBeaudoin]

For what it’s worth. I’ve only stalled mine twice in almost two years of ownership.

[@MrMarki134]

At that price point, this thing should chew through the densest beans imo

[@user-jm8ky1kn2t]

@@entropy0917 Please do not comment on someones health based on a youtube video. You do not know his medical information, genetic history, personal habits, or anything else. It is incredibly rude even if done with good intentions. Wish him good health and move on. This is something that his doctor will discuss with him if it is appropriate.

[@taylorwhite3636]

Just pray you get a perfect grinder on arrival The issues i have seen people reporting with Weber customer support over an extended time (not to mention public image issues) are truly absurd for a company charging their prices. absolute hard principled "no" buy for me

[@termin8d]

Weber is the ultimate snake oil company which exploits people's eagerness to part with their money

[@rlb2444]

Lance, the EG1 may be the best grinder made in China.

[@cheekster777]

Huge thanks for all of the effort and time that went into making this video Lance. 🙏🏻

[@LanceHedrick]

thank you for watching it!

[@Brucefulness]

When you are buying a $4250 coffee bean grinder, I FEEEL like the least of your worries is the shipping cost. 😅😅😅😅

[@chahahc]

"it probably won't get that many views because it's really nerdy" Dude we're watching a 40 minute analysis on a coffee grinder that's as expensive as a used car. We're in dire need of them laser particle analysis graphs.

[@LanceHedrick]

hahaha! ok ok ok. Too true. I am always surprised by the interest in nerdy deep dives.

[@ericquinones9140]

Have you used the titus nautilus? The nautilus with the SSP Brew burrs is a pretty amazing brew combo. I looked at the EG and ended up going with the nautilus and love it

[@coffeewitharthur426]

I’d love to see him review Titus grinders.

[@Jahloveipraise]

Dude thank you for how much effort and thought you put into this and all your work, it def doesn’t go unnoticed. As for the next high end grinder I buy, it must have the anti static tech that the ode gen 2 has, that changed the game imo. The ode does a fantastic job of eliminating static and I can only assume that many will follow suit in the following year or so. Also I love you too lance

[@0whitestone]

I agree on both points, Lance's dedication is awesome. The effort just to source, swap and experiment with all of those burr sets makes me exhausted lol And that Ode Gen 2 (I have one and it's really great!) is a game changer IMO. I don't RDT at all with it and have no issues with static or retention and it's using a old technology that been in hair dryers for awhile. I'm sure there's some design or engineering challenges, but one that I think would totally be worth it to fit on as future updates to other grinders, or put into new ones, or course.

[@LanceHedrick]

thank you! And yes. The anti static is fantastic. I am sure more and more companies will integrate something similar in the coming months. Thanks for watching! I do put a lot of work into these so I greatly appreciate the kind words!

[@Ivxq_girl]

The mill is worth buying, please reply❤

[@ChickenAnonymous]

At this price point, you having to justify the stalling isnt acceptable. Talk motor specs all you want, but you cant ignore the fact it does stall and that is simply unacceptable given its only design purpose is to grind beans

[@BenMargolius]

Thanks so much for the amazing review Lance(love you back)! I would be super interested in two comparisons, the first being between the EG1 and the P100, I'd be curious to see how the 98mm burrs compare in your eyes to the 80mm. Second, when you get around to doing the Unifilter review, it would be really cool to see how it compares to a unibasket, like the one's offered from Weber and Wafo. Thanks again Lance!

[@LanceHedrick]

thank you! One of the realest watching til the end. FYI- unibasket and unifilter are same. one is just connected to a big hunk of steel. hole pattern, etc, is same. and i'll look into a p100!

[@jermainechan4390]

love you and your videos, so much work went into this! I've also just recently received my v3, every time I look at it, makes me happy. such a piece of art.

[@LanceHedrick]

absolutely! That's such a big part of buying something like this. It is genuinely a piece of art sitting on the table. I enjoy holding it and touching it. So premium.

[@sunflowerdeath]

This grinder looks ridiculous - overbuilt, overcomplicated. I prefer simple things.

[@esplab180]

This review is exactly like the shot of espresso you just pull…i think you don't even know what you're talking about.

[@LanceHedrick]

Haha! OK, silly goose.

[@teslatalk42069]

I ordered three of them. one to use and two to stare at to know how rich I am

[@chrisg1631]

have you compared this to the kafatek flat max 2 with SLM?

[@allen.t]

I can’t see myself ever buying this grinder just due to the price but for anyone out there who is in the market for something like this then this video would be an absolute godsend!

[@LanceHedrick]

thank you! I took, well, a long time on getting ready for it. PHEW! thanks for the support!

[@sal6794]

Thank you for creating a plethora of amazing content especially for us extreme coffee nerds! 😉 The time and effort you put into all of your videos is abundantly obvious in the final product and I think I speak for all of us fans when I say I appreciate what you do more than you know! And who knows maybe I’ll get to meet you at the coffee expo! 😃

[@wadeduvall7026]

Just so you are aware, you're explanation of the motor is partially incorrect. The stalling is a torque problem and likely not a power problem. When an electric motor stalls, its prone to damage so the controller is probably cutting it out before it hits the stall torque. They should have used a higher stall torque motor. You shouldn't have to trickle feed a 3k+ titan class grinder. Period.

[@LanceHedrick]

Hmmmm.... how come the P100 never stalls but has a similar motor? It peaks at 1300 w on 220v and this one at 1540 w at 220v. Higher steady state power. Bigger rating altogether. P100 doesn't have the same controller, though, and never stalls.

[@wadeduvall7026]

​@@LanceHedrick Power = Torque x RPM, so you can generally avoid hitting the stall torque by reducing RPMs. P100 can go as low as 200 RPM vs the EG1 which seems to only go to 500 RPM; this could be the reason it doesn't stall. It could also be a hyperconserative cutoff by Lyn (true stall should be avoided as it will overheat the motor) but my guess is the RPMs.

[@wadeduvall7026]

@@LanceHedrick Also how you control the motors and the motor design may affect the stalling torque.

[@LanceHedrick]

@@wadeduvall7026 from what doug weber told me, it is conservatism.

[@wadeduvall7026]

@@LanceHedrick I stand by my point this is a design flaw. Not a deal breaker though (unless you are a barista).

[@johnnyyacoub8772]

Would love to see a showdown between the Weber EG1 and the Lagom P100. Make my dreams come true.

[@LanceHedrick]

ha! I may have to...

[@pablojimenez1423]

yes please!

[@PtWhiteBelt]

And leave the Kafatek Monolith Flat Max out? You're just protecting them from a beating at this point. 🤭

[@BensCoffeeRants]

EG-1 vs Lagom P100, VS Monolith Flat Max LM, VS VersaLab M4, vs Something from Titus.

[@stvvjbs]

Still, I think Weber’s stuff isn’t about the “best product” in this price range but the “best looking” product in the market. Langom 100’s appearance is simply a lack of details.

[@Abrikosmanden]

This is by far the best EG1 review I've ever seen! Well done, Lance! And completely ignoring the review, I have to say that your videos are always a joy to watch. You never fail to make me laugh with your Lance-ness. You're the best!!!

[@LanceHedrick]

thank you so much! and I really appreciate that! I love (to try) being funny and making others laugh. Thanks for the comment!

[@NubRusty]

"my favorite grinder" like bro, what home grinder would beat out something that's over 3 grand?? It'd be like someone going "omg I love my Lamborghini so much more than my Honda Civic!!". uhhh yeah?? of course you do. water is wet and grass is green

[@saamo1423]

You seem very unhappy

[@andrewfuller3685]

Haha, part of me was hoping you’d say it wasn’t all that great, but I do indeed need to keep dreaming and saving for this. The ability to swap between a great espresso burr and filter burr without having to worry so much about alignment is amazing.

[@LanceHedrick]

it's absolutely fantastic (as long as the burrs are in spec)

[@andrewfuller3685]

@@LanceHedrick would you say that you would trust the burrs produced by Weber to be in spec? Thanks for all the work you do.

[@LanceHedrick]

absolutely the core burrs and base burrs are.

[@amer0701]

I'm selling a kidney tomorrow.

[@LanceHedrick]

lmk if no buyer's. I could use another.

[@diomedes8791]

To my knowledge, the most expensive single-dose grinder is the original Titus grinder with DRM hybrid burrs (68+68mm conical+flat) with a price tag of approx €6500.

[@benedekvali1398]

The Ceado e37z Hero single dose is also more expensive than the EG1 with its $5900 price tag.

[@lpnew3]

Actually the base Version of this grinder is now at 7000 € afaik. Without customization, shipping and tax. It can easily exceed 10k€ delivered to your door with some customization.

[@LanceHedrick]

Crap. Unreal.

[@bendavis268]

I found that the EG1 is way less likely to stall once you set to 700rpm plus. It could be the super low rpm that is causing you the occasional issue Lance. I also wouldn't recommend anyone going to "Max" as the internal wipers degrade quickly, there is no reason to go there anyway. I really enjoy this grinder but... I own a V1 & when the oak platen was released I reached out to Weber asking if they would offer a special price for previous owners. They said no. The reason I asked is because the finish on the original metal ring gets rubbed off by the shaker. It leaves a bit of dry taste in the mouth when Weber clearly notice an issue, release an update & offer zero to previous customers, especially at this price point.

[@Dustmaker]

The sound when grinding is horrible and you can hear its struggling to keep the rpm. Low torgue and a high price..

[@brianc2365]

Another great video, super helpful! Have you had any long term use with a Monolith Flat/MAX? If so, how would you compare whichever burrs you tried in the Monolith to the ULF and Core burrs?

[@Maxime-ho9iv]

This costs too much to stale. Period. No excuses. I know, I know, the machine is absolutely beautiful, we want to like it. But let's be brutally honest here, there is no reason to be polite with a machine costing that much. Particularly now that there is so much competition out there. And unfortunately it goes with Weber reputation: they put too much products out there without full testing. It goes back to the HG-1, which so many people had issues with. This is the third iteration of the EG-1. Come on. Anybody who is in this to the point of watching Lance Hedrick videos is playing with light roasts, or exclusively brewing light to medium-ish roasts. They should have found this issue during development phase and fixed it before release.

[@LanceHedrick]

What's crazy is the motor is MORE than adequate. The issue is the controller they have on it. I'm hopeful they'll ease up on it soon.

[@clashwithkeen]

Great review. The part where you say "someone will probably comment below the name of this plug", without looking it up but just as someone that worked in an AV rental/production shop where the staff commonly called parts by their technical name we always referred to them as IEC plugs. Outside of that environment in our industry they are colloquially called D plugs/cables. (I'm sure IEC is a naming convention and there are actually other modifiers with numbers and letters for specific variations)

[@garnettbrown]

The Ceado E37Z Hero was introduced to the public around 2018. Adjustable RPM, 83mm dlc coated flat burrs, single dose grinder. Approx 5,000 usd. They are one of the first. I'm surprised no one other than whole latte love haven't reviewed them.

[@obsessedcloset2638]

The E37Z and hero variant are made to order. I had one. They are gorgeous machines. However , since I’ve owned both and used both the EG-1 is the better grinder in my opinion. Easier to clean, less retention (both are minimal ) but for pour over and espresso the EG1 is better.

[@garnettbrown]

@@obsessedcloset2638 Interesting. Ill have to look into it further.

[@jamesbeasley5936]

Amazing video thanks Lance. And 253 comments, and you’ve replied to every one of them! Great commitment to your viewers! Re: HU & ULF, exact same geometry, and maybe the coating (or blind?) made the tiny difference. Were the HU closer in flavor to ULF than LU? What’s your preference for high clarity, 1:3 turbos… HU/ULF, LU, or core?

[@thomaswilliams4291]

hey brother, you are a STAR, a performer!! I received my EG-1 V3 in December so this was timely. I love to make people laugh and enjoy themselves, you accomplish the same every time I see you. Please post the Unifilter review as I have been testing this, the Wafo Spirit and SWORKS basket too.

[@LanceHedrick]

Haha thank you! I have 3x wafo, uni, and waiting for sworks to ship

[@Garage-ch6ce]

May be wrong but sounds a bit too desperate to overlook weaknesses of a ridiculously expensive piece of hardware. Shouldn’t need any “I don’t mind that …. “

[@sanketgroup]

on EG-1, what dial setting do you keep for pour-over with ULF and espresso?

[@natalieharvey6847]

If you were to only do pour over and needed something for someone who is machanically challenged (ive broken a electric grinder trying to clean it) would this be my end game

[@ryanmerritt2436]

Me: is in the market for a $500-800 grinder Me: I better watch all 40 minutes

[@cjbrown80]

We need a comparison between the EG1 with ULF burrs and the P100 with SSP 98mm HU. Anyone with this budget is looking for this exact comparison for filter brewing.

[@jules5350]

Hey Lance, your reviews are wonderful, entertaining and funny! Better than many tv shows. Even if you don’t want to review/don’t like the Monolith Max! 😂

[@LanceHedrick]

haha! Not that I don't like it! I've not tried it! I just haven't bought it based off a friend suggesting other grinders first who has had a few "end game" ones haha!

[@3rd-Wave_Rebel]

Why is the onyx so much pricer than the already expensive silver version?

[@mhmnn]

I love you 😄 did you do any comparisons to the Lagom P64? and what would be the closest burr equivalent for the P64 for the perfect filter coffee?

[@lpnew3]

Since it uses the same 64 mm burrs as the Fellow Ode, I would suggest taking a look into SSP Multipurpose or even the Brew / Unimodal V1

[@LanceHedrick]

If you want ULF equivalent, SSP Brew/MP v1 is where its at. Can't do espresso, though! And thanks for watching until the end!

[@JaimeZX]

Lance, this was a great video. Would love to know your thoughts on this vs DF83. Obviously it's nearly a order of magnitude difference in price, but as we talk about "diminishing returns," I'd love to see some blind testing of this vs DF83 vs _____ dialed in for espresso and filter. ALSO Man, what a huge improvement in production quality over the last few months. Well done, sir!

[@3ede467]

If only my kitchen wasn’t so small and my budget was bigger, this would also be my favorite grinder. I love the design of it… Instead I got my Niche Zero standing in a 30 cm niche living up to its name, lol.

[@BBB_025]

I absolutely love the discussion and comparison of the burr sets. Such a valuable source of information. I will absolutely be watching the upcoming 80mm burrset comparison video!

[@LanceHedrick]

heck yeah! Thanks for watching!

[@RavenSWE]

Goddamn it Lance, I bought the DF83 on your recommendation and now you release this? I can’t afford this Lance, how will I live? 😂 JK love the content, amazing review, one to dream about

[@LanceHedrick]

the DF83 is such a good bang for your buck! This is no where near the same cost-value ratio! haha thanks!

[@SoulBladeM]

Wow those burrs are thick! Wonderful review, deserved for such an expensive piece of technology. I started my coffee journey back in August by purchasing the Timemore C2 for FP, then I bought Hario Switch and recently Aeropress. Recently I got the upgrade bug so I watched and read so many reviews of better grinders and splurged on the 1Zpresso K-Max, mostly because of your huge breakdowns. The coffee it makes is much less bitter and the drawdown is surprisingly faster on the V60. Thank you for the in-depth reviews!

[@LanceHedrick]

Heck yeah!Stoked you're enjoying the K Max. Such a solid grinder! Will serve you well for years.

[@puddingstar2340]

I Love You too Baby 😍

[@HermanLouw]

Thanks for the super informative review. Also entertaining as well, very well done Lance.

[@LanceHedrick]

thank you so much! Really appreciate it

[@justinlouismusic]

Thanks for review Lance. I would love this grinder but sadly I live in the real world 😢. When are you starting your music channel? 😅 Love your work, keep it up!!

[@LanceHedrick]

yeah. it certainly isn't for everyone. My hope on covering some of these is moreso to get out in the open, for others to see, what is on these high end grinders. This should help educate the consumer when buying something cheaper and manufacturers on what they need to include. Thanks for watching!

[@LukeLendrum]

Every so often you break into song or in this case beatbox and I can tell you've got a serious musical talent on you.

[@LanceHedrick]

thank you, Luke! I did do a good bit of musical things growing up hahaa

[@LukeLendrum]

@@LanceHedrick as a professional musician myself there does seem to be a correlation between music and coffee obsession 🤌

[@stefanosbousdekis]

Your reviews are always highly anticipated, thank you for the amazing content! I love you back 😂

[@LanceHedrick]

thank you! Stoked you enjoy

[@chrisg1631]

can you comment on the avg retention level? and did you need to RDT?

[@99yep]

Blind burrs should be called " the way they f'n should be burrs" to have holes on a cutting surface and expect uniform consistent grind size is madness. There are so many different ways to fasten burrs to their carriers without defacing the cutting edge. Lazy design.

[@studio7tube]

Great review! I am wondering: would the filter coffee be even better if you use the knocker to knock of the final grounds in a separate container and despose them instead of putting them in your coffee? (Is what you knock out with the knocker fine grounds?)

[@stevenkoppelkam643]

Love your videos lance, any chance of a DF64P review? I've seen others but id rather see it on the lance hedrick show

[@LanceHedrick]

coming up!!! I have a plan for a "budget 64mm grinder showdown" on the horizon! Probably couple of weeks out.

[@crashandrise]

Love you too! Amazing video, Lance. How would you pit it against the larger burrs, like EK43S with stock burrs or a P100?

[@LanceHedrick]

I prefer this with ULF over any grinder with any burrset currently. But, of course, I haven't used a p100 nearly enough with 98mm HU SSP burrs to confidently say there isn't a chance those could beat this out. What I can say is I can't imagine a quality difference big enough to have me prefer the aesthetic of the p100 over this. I adore the aesthetics here.

[@kevinbkk9101]

Awesome review. I think you just convinced me to take the plunge! Dual voltage is a huge benefit for me as I currently live in a 220v country but will likely move back to a 120v country at some point. Your coverage of the burrs is also really helpful.

[@user-lf1xy3td6l]

The fact that the EG1 and the KEY both stop with light roast is an issue and they have to work on it especially at the price they ask. Personally I would take the P100 it is lower in price and has a better motor that does not change RPM while grinding

[@LanceHedrick]

Perhaps you didn't hear me correctly. The motor in the EG1 is actually a higher rated motor than p100. There is a controller holding back the power. The max on the p100 is like 1300, I believe. The max for eg1 is 1540. They just have a massive limiter on it, which is why I spent so much time talking about it. Also, again, I ONLY brew ultra light roast. I never have issues with slow feed and only very rarely with fast feed (maybe 6 times since getting it in April. Cheers

[@user-lf1xy3td6l]

@@LanceHedrick I think the design of EG1 has a shaft which steal some power from the motor. However, leaving numbers aside,I have tried the P100 for over a month and never stoped even once light roast espresso. Which my KEY always do.. i thing it is an issue that needs to be resolved from weber without giving alternative solutions such as slow feeding I have tried slow feeding and I think it is not the solution it has two downside: 1-workflow will be much worse 2- constancy will suffer especially for espresso

[@LanceHedrick]

I agree it should be resolved. My point is the p100 doesnt have the limiter on it this does. I could be a 100HP motor on the eg1 and it will stall if I put a massive limiter. The power is there. Weber jsut has it locked. I'm hoping the next iteration will unlock more power.

[@kostast622]

Indeed looks like a telescope, check out the Ceado E37z Hero, that one is even more expensive

[@LanceHedrick]

I plumb forgot about caedo! unreal price tags

[@superlloito]

Sending some love right back at you!

[@capmelonie]

So whats the difference in the cup against the DF83? Lets say stock weber burrs against stock itamills in the DF?

[@lpnew3]

Woud be really interesting. Maybe Lance is waiting for more 83 mm burrs to arrive (Gorilla Gear, SSP Lab Sweet Style) for a full comparison.

[@LanceHedrick]

Core crushes it, imo. Stock italmills are solid. Dont get me wrong! but the core burrs are next level when it comes to providing tactile and not losing out on nuanced notes.

[@capmelonie]

@@LanceHedrick Thanks for the reply buddy. So we need to get 83mm Weber Key Burrs 🤪

[@LanceHedrick]

ha! someone needs to just steal the geometry and make them 83mm lol

[@capmelonie]

@@LanceHedrick or build an adapter for the 80mm🤔

[@micksquires]

Thanks for this review mate. I’ve had my Onyx EG1 for about 18 months. I have Ultra Burrs installed permanently and use it exclusively for filter. It’s just so good and agreed with everything you’ve mentioned. Mine has stalled twice in that time, I tend to just dump the beans and no feed unless I have the day off and have time to play. I would say the stalling in a no issues for me, I’ve had the same happen with other grinders as well

[@3a1Va1]

4K stall….

[@chupavi2235]

Keep up the great work Lance! It's been enjoyable watching your content quality get better and better as time progresses.

[@perfectlynormal5729]

I'm so thankful for you. I received my EG1 today and took it for a spin. All of my shots were WAY too fast, but if I tightened the grinder up, I heard what sounded like burrs rubbing. I thought my $4,000 grinder had to be defective. But Lance, you saved the day. I learned to go beyond my sound comfort level.....and found where the espresso grind was hiding. Thank you sir.

[@frmosess]

Lance, thank you for this wonderful review. I am curious if you've ever tried or would recommend the Ceado E37Z Hero, which is actually more expensive than this Weber. Obviously, cost does not always equal quality, but I am interested in why there is such a dearth of information on the Ceado, especially in comparison to the Weber. Thanks

[@antonioriojas8299]

Hey, Lance! Great review. Would you mind sharing the settings that you usually use with the EG-1 with the ultra low fines burrs for filter coffee? Just the range (based on burrs touching) and preferred RPM.

[@LanceHedrick]

I do about 1 revolution plus a numebr or two from burr lock and 500-750 RPM usually

[@antonioriojas8299]

@@LanceHedrick Thanks!

[@aoalr]

Given some customers are unhappy with Weber’s customer service and the simplicity and price of Lagom P100 (+ the larger burrs), I think the Lagom takes the crown as the best grinder in the market. Over $1000 less than the EG1 and it can grind through beans at whatever RPM without stumbling like the EG1

[@LanceHedrick]

I can't speak to this definitively but what I can say is 1) There have been complaints with all "end game grinder" companies including option o 2) bigger burrs doesn't mean better a priori I'm currently trying to get a p100 so I can better understand it.

[@darklordeternal]

In my opinion, Monolith Flat Max 2 is the best(for espresso)! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bH2qlnWZir9sj6M

[@tom_nuyts]

hmmm... what a waste of engineering and matrasil - such a zombie grinder for ...filtered coffee.... brrrrr... viva la espressolution!

[@George_explores_coffee]

Have you tried the mizen burrs Lance? I’m curious to find out how they differ from the core because they also can do both filter and espresso. Keep up the good work!

[@ductrung3993]

Hi Lance, for 90% pourover and 10% espresso, would you recommend 804 machined burr or ULF? I want high clarity but also reasonably forgiveness. Thank you and I hope the 80mm burr video will come soon!

[@robbob1492]

What’s the best espresso grinder? I have a Rocket Fausto touch and a Rocket Cincuantotto. I’ve just installed a flow control kit and am single dosing. I’m thinking of selling the Fausto to buy something else. Or should I change the burrs? I’m a home brewer that brews espressos. I’ve been using light roast, but am learning and geeking out. It’s a hobby for me. Thanks in advance.

[@sidewaysluke]

I really hate to see you stick your fingers in there when it's powered up. It's "probably fine", but shit happens. Unplug it!

[@deanbrandon3615]

This thing is a work of art. I would think the experience of using it would be quite rewarding. It seems a bit large in that, at 18 inches in height, it would not fit on many people’s countertops that have cabinets overhead. I wish they made a slightly smaller version; still, wow, this is so nice. By the way, if you play this video at 1.5 playback speed it does mimic if you had been drinking all this coffee…

[@tcalf]

BB LANCE - BUDDY - please turn off the grinder before you put your fingies up and all in there. please you are scaring me omgosh.

[@BKHD605]

Over 3000 GBP for a grinder that can bog down, I honestly don't know how people justify buying such a product unless they are made of money.

[@sour_coffee_dk2295]

Thanks for an excellent and very thorough review. I really respect the fact that you took your time testing the different burrs. I really enjoyed it as a fellow EG-1 owner. And please ignore the hateful comments from trolls and other idiots. You seem like a genuine, fun and great human being. Keep up the great work!

[@nachoote260]

Outstanding review Lance, you truly provide the most comprehensive ones out there. All my grinder purchases so far (ode+ssp, manual grinder) have been due to your videos.

[@belayingnz]

I just got my EG-1 last week. OMG, it's amazing ! I'm just seasoning the burrs now. Dark roast 20 kg - 25kg should do it !

[@rickkemp385]

Lance, love your videos. Just wondering why it appears you have never reviewed a Ceado grinder? More specifically the E37SD? You and everyone else says spend all your money on your grinder and I'm looking for a high-end single dose grinder. I would really like your opinion on the E37SD.

[@error.418]

500 RPM as the lowest... but is that the motor RPM or the burr RPM? The manual really isn't clear on that. There's been a small movement of "1 revolution per second (60 RPM) for your burrs is ideal" so it feels like 500 RPM is the motor and there is a gearbox converting that into decent torque at the burr and the burr RPM will be necessarily lower. If so, how much of a step down? If not... what's up with the other adjustable RPM grinders getting down so much lower in their RPMs? edit: lol, of course I ask right as I'm getting to 31:45 in the video (absolutely excellent points!), although still curious about what the reported number means, motor or burr RPM

[@AnskarKong]

thx for the review , I put lot of time to compare between p100/01/eg-1 ，at the end I choose eg-1 because of this video.

[@mcst6969]

What I learned from this video, that this grinder is so good that the coffee from it turns you into a singer/beat boxer!

[@LanceHedrick]

it's true! I was previously tone and beat deaf!

[@mafro5755]

Really good video and beatbox 👍 but I rather chew my beans and pour boiling water in my mouth than spending that much on a grinder 😅 It does look nice though, but I'm happy with my Ode Gen 2

[@weijung927]

Only compare the taste of coffee. Which is batter? Hand grinder( like kinu or lido OG or ..... ) or machine grinder (like this really expensive machine or. Niche or Df64 Df83)? If I had lido OG is it worth to upgrade to machine grinder ？ Thanks a lot.

[@justinbouchard]

Do you feel personally that these prices are justified? Not taking anything away from any of the engineering, design or manufacturing. Just a real question.

[@LanceHedrick]

Check out the caption!

[@justinbouchard]

Oh shoot lol!!! I usually do 🤣

[@LanceHedrick]

hahaha! You're good!

[@rossshapov7677]

I don’t know why people like this grinder. It’s clunky and has weird features that seem off for such an expensive grinder.stepped? Slow and stalls?

[@leroybrown4797]

Hay Lance. I am a recent college graduate from The University of Denver. I received my BA in English Literature and Philosophy. I have done research projects concerning coffee. what is a good place to start a coffee career?

[@aidenburgess217]

It's my favourite looking grinder. I ain't ever buying one though. No way I can justify that kinda money on a single piece of equipment

[@lanceperron9085]

Lance, my name is also Lance. I would like to know your opinion over the Weber Worked Shoppe Chi grinder. I’d like to look in the build quality of the web of products in the Chi grinder. Fits my budget better what do you think?

[@Brave_Lion]

Please tell me what is the difference in grinding quality between a "good manual coffee grinder" and a "good electric coffee grinder" (both "under ~$500" budget) for filter coffee? I'm thinking of buying a manual coffee grinder, but I'm afraid that the grinding quality will be worse than an electric coffee grinder. P.s. An electric coffee grinder is inconvenient because I make 1 or 2 cups of coffee a day in an Aeropress (12-15 grams of coffee) and I often change coffee, often experimenting with the grind size. But at the same time, I am ready to endure inconvenience for the sake of a better quality of grinding because I drink coffee to enjoy the versatility of taste (not for the sake of caffeine).

[@lukesp5721]

😂 not even close to the worlds most expensive grinder. Try Titus $10,000+

[@LanceHedrick]

difference is that titus is that expensive because of the materials. I can put diamonds on this and make it $20k. I don't count that as being most expensive. Looking at strictly base price. Of course, I did neglect the caedo that is 6 grand... lol

[@lukesp5721]

@@LanceHedrick but it's still a grinder that's beautiful, works amazing and always completely sells out because of demand. It would be blind to discount it just because the price doesn't fit into your box. Just like a Lamborghini is still a car.

[@LanceHedrick]

Yes, but they have a stripped down version of the same grinder. That's my point. The grinder is $3,000 (nautilus). The same grinder decked out is $10k. To me, the cost of the grinder is $3k, since that is what the base model is. But, I am wrong. There are a couple of base models people have posted that are well above EG1, like the Caedo I mentioned above.

[@rather-reverend]

The REAL question: Do you have some kind of experience and/or training in musical theater? I know a thing or two about singing - my son's an opera singer - and you sing like somebody who's done it enough to know what he's about.

[@dannymars]

I wonder how many people have ever been stuck on a desert island with a choice of coffee grinder burr sets.

[@ninetendopesaitama2107]

Ek43 vs this monster. Im happy with my c40. But of course i look at lambos. ;) ☮️ the opus would be my price range.

[@chasevogt2090]

Has anyone mixed grind sizes within the same shot? I’m new to this but fell in love with it and my imagination is getting the best of me. Would mixing a light and medium roast bean be interesting or heresy? I don’t even have these machines or tools in the mail yet but I’m binge watching and shopping, it never occurred to me that I CAN make cafe coffee at home

[@Meech_TK]

I've just got into coffee and found Lance and I've been watching his videos completely random. This guy has so many different haircuts and styles lmao.

[@jakeg1117]

Amazing review, just a quick question - in the chart, you have SSP LU (which I'm assuming is low uniformity), then go on to talk about the HUs. God bless SSP for the most confusing naming in coffee, but I'm curious if they are indeed the HUs since I think in a previous video you talked about preferring the MPs for filter over the HUs for espresso. Mostly I'm curious since the geometry seems to be the basis for the Weber ULF. Whew!

[@LanceHedrick]

Ok. So. HU on the 64 is not super unimodal style. The HU on the 80mm and on the 98mm IS the super unimodal. So, HU is the gold set of burrs here. THey are literally the same exact geometry to the ULF. SO, ULF=HU in the 80mm size. The unimodal style at 64mm is MP. NOT HU. Hope that makes sense haha

[@10jsfvideo44]

Thanks Jake. I was also confused

[@jakeg1117]

@@LanceHedrick Thank you for explaining! At this moment I feel like I understand it but I can't promise I won't ask the same question again, lol

[@Revan42]

I’m very late to this so I don’t really expect an answer but I would be curious about how multipurpose this grinder is. And I know obviously very but I’m thinking in terms of this is your only grinder you have 3 sets of burrs for it or something along those lines. How smooth would the process be to swap out the burrs maybe 2-3 times a day depending on what type of coffee you want to make (E.g. a morning espresso, an afternoon pour-over). Would just be interested if the process is so refined that the effort required is so minimal that its no hassle and would be a super viable option. Just a stupid nit picky thought I have.

[@MWSJoey]

The joint operation between Weber and Acaia is what led me to the Acaia Orbit. It looks like a sexy mini EG-1. Currently absolutely loved the Orbit, but I still dream of an EG-1.

[@LanceHedrick]

Doug designed a beautiful machine with the orbit. NOt a fan of the weird 30 unit releases theyre doing. May or may not get one in the future. We will see. 64mm grinder is super saturated lol

[@MWSJoey]

@@LanceHedrick 64mm Grinders are hyper saturated right now and seem to be the target for the consumer market. I'd like to see innovation in the 80mm space myself. I do love my Orbit, although the releases have been absolutely abysmal from a manufacturing standpoint. With 500 Eclipse editions and only 60 released in the last four months I hope Acaia is able to ramp up production to a sustainable level. With the other options that exist, I wouldn't recommend waiting for one if you can get your hands on a nice P64 unless you absolutely love the design.

[@LanceHedrick]

for sure. that makes sense. I just have a compulsive need to try every grinder haha!

[@jauntus1]

I'm struggling with the concept of the Orbit's being grind by weight but also single dose? You're paying for the grind by weight tech, paying for low retention/low tolerances in build and chamber, but why have grind-by-weight without a hopper? You end up weighing your beans before anyway. I suppose most home users that would spend this kind of money would at least brew different ways and maybe use a hopper for the bag of beans they buy and leverage the grind by weight and tight tolerances to switch brew methods for the same beans more seamlessly.

[@MWSJoey]

@@jauntus1 The orbit cost me $1350. Without the scale it's a solid single dose, variable RPM, 64mm grinder. P64 costs ~$1600 so the Orbit actually comes in with a lower initial cost than the P64. Add in the scale for $200 and the price of the two grinders are arguable very close together with the Orbit offering more features. Now that's also with Mazzer 33M in the orbit vs. SSP burrs in the P64 so if you purchase the Orbit and SSP burrs you land yourself right at the same P64 price point but without GBW. I think both grinders are solid choices and have only used the GBW like 3 times on my orbit. It is nice that the GBW isn't integrated into the grinder and a Lunar serves multiple purposes. They do plan on releasing a hopper at a later date, but GBW isn't for everyone and is a very niche feature to have.