My FINAL Review of a MatPat FNAF THEORY!! | Freddy Fazbear Pizza Podcast

[@emiliobarukgallardoflores6983]

I love how ockham's razor is gospel for many FNAF theories, and yet they ignore the most ockham'srazor-y explanation of all: corporate ineptitude.

[@buckethatboy8719]

*Occam’s Razor, for future reference :] and yes that is absolutely the most obvious explanation 😂

[@DrW33kend]

This applies to real life, too! :) do not trust institutions that are for profit.

[@jacobcrumpton4643]

​​@ijava-mm4sdJust so you're aware, I've been reporting your comments for spam. Seeing as I've gotten 20 of them so far, I think this qualifies. edit: to be clear to anyone else reading this, it's 20 comments, all saying the same thing and advertising his matpat slander video.

[@softreyna]

Wouldn't Occam's Razor suggest that Mike Schmidt, Fritz Smith, and Michael Afton are different people?

[@Thelongestshrimp]

It’s spelled occam

[@patonnight]

"I found myself in here" to me, refers to his Character. He thinks he is Freddy Fazbear, not this specific Robot but the Fazbear Character from all time. And then he found the old/original Freddy animatronic in there, the one who did terrible things in servitude of another, like looking at himself in a mirror... And not wanting to be that. Not wanting to be him no longer... 'Back then, I didn't have a choice. But I have a choice now. I am not me'. And deciding to break free of that persona/programming, because this time Freddy is sentient and free of Glitchtrap and his programs.

[@echonvoid]

I REALLY like this

[@periodicgaming5159]

Rye: “But that would make this a 4 hour podcast.” Me: That sounds awesome. Rye: “And I know some of you would enjoy that.” Me: Heck yeah I would. Rye: “But I can’t make that for you.” Me: Darn, but fair.

[@Certified_confederated_hater]

​@ijava-mm4sd get a life man.

[@thedarestare]

Same

[@Zergplex]

​@@Certified_confederated_hater It's a bot, just report it for spam. If enough of us do it'll get removed.

[@Haley_Halo]

13:33 "Honestly, he thought most of what Fazbear Entertainment created was frivolous, even stupid, but he sought a position with the company right out of college because *Fazbear Entertainment was a wildly successful corporation* and he aspired to be the head of such an enterprise."-Mr. Burrows pg.111 of 'The Storyteller' There's no theorizing required on this point, he didn't 'fix up a failing company'. The rest about high IQ, being snobbish, etc is accurate though. Now F.E. buying out Edwin's company on the other hand would fit that idea with the Executive Grant Starling building up the corporation.

[@CazzyVR]

I think the biggest problem with the five nights at Freddy's theory community is that too many of the fan base is so willing and always wanting some person to link back to someone else. It gets to the point where we really cannot even have a new character without someone trying to say that it's actually someone else in disguise. Like Mrs. Afton, I guarantee you no one to remember she was a thing and to say that she's actually the secret CEO of Fazbear I think is such a big stretch that it's impossible

[@burtonthegrape9217]

One of the problems FNAF has is how overly vague it is, the fans looking into every little thing, FNAF lore and story being vague and more questions then answers but at the same time we're told not to look into every little thing. Not knowing more about William,Henry and the MCI/how the whole story came about is frustrating so i hope they give William and older lore questions some actual answers that aren't just more questions.

[@Ethanml0587]

If FNaF ever ends, I hope the last game they make will be an absolute treasure trove of lore. Answering every question that's not been answered, clarifying assumptions and answers we thought were right, maybe even giving us a timeline? Just wishful thinking, but if Scott is still involved by the time FNaF is over, I'd imagine that he'd want to give us all the answers. FNaF is an absolute cash cow right now, so no telling when it'll end. We've already entered the futuristic era, so there's not really anything left to do except explore the past (Fredbear's, Fallfest, first Freddy Fazbear's Pizza location, etc). I genuinely don't know what they're supposed to do after Security Breach, maybe Freddy in Space will be come a reality...? Anyways, yeah, the games are extremely vague. We're STILL arguing about things from the first seven games, despite being in the SB era. Really hope they give us more answers than questions in the next game.

[@Wizardjones69]

i think william doesnt even remember his past, just like the joker

[@zAch90ed]

@@Ethanml0587that’s the whole point. If Scott just told us everything, yeah we would know, but then…fnaf wouldn’t be anything special. It wouldn’t matter anymore if we just knew the full story and every detail. The whole reason people love fnaf is trying to figure out the lore and coming up with THEIR own timelines. Without that, fnaf would NEVER have gotten this popular. It’s also why MatPat blew up the franchise..because of the lore. It being vague is why it’s popular in the first place. Taking that away…you’re just losing the charm of the series. Not to mention, people were literally upset at how ‘old’ the lore of Help Wanted 2 was. No joke. People were upset that it didn’t add any new lore, but confirmed stuff we already knew. Like how people already knew Glitchtrap being the Mimic…which we didn’t fully know that, but alright. Like what do you want? I thought people said its too vague, but when they confirm stuff, you don’t like it? It just doesn’t make sense. Not counting you, just other fans who are brain dead.

[@aresrivera9744]

25:12 we see in ruin that when Cassie takes on and off the Vanni mask that she has that same vision so you can just argue it’s a byproduct of seeing someone with that technology

[@v1ct0rygames32]

Something interesting to note about the point you made about the Glam Endos being mimics: in the endo warehouse, RUIN and HW2's endo minigame, we only ever see one body type for the endos, matching Monty and Freddy's. This implies that the endos for Chica and Roxy had to essentially change its shape to fit the glamrock shells. Mimics are able to - as shown by the books and RUIN - change its shape to fit into costumes

[@ninawatchesstuff]

On the broken vs bleeding line: like, I get it, sure, Occam's Razor and whatnot, but why go for "I sense you are broken" when "I sense you are hurt" or " I sense you are injured" would have worked better in that instance? There are a million and one ways to tap dance around the fact that blood exists and sometimes makes unscheduled exits from the body. I just find it a bit off that they opted for "broken" when another word would have worked fine and set off no theory bells. Especially since we've heard that specific phrasing before with the robot kid implications affixed to it.

[@_o.0_]

Mike didn’t have any friends in the FNAF6 building, unless all of his “Bros” are dead down there, I’m on the thought that the Bros wanted the bite of 83 never to happen again and became Security Guards and or technicians at locations and ultimately died

[@mannyegarica12]

39:20 That's what happened in Red versus Blue with alpha AI. The director damaged and torture the alpha AI splitting into fragments making multiple AI with different personalities.

[@EpicRandomness555]

What I don’t like about it just being a dumb greedy CEO is… it’s so boring. Can every decision that leads to Afton, ghosty, robot stuff just be bad decisions? I know in some part that’s always been part of FNAF but to some part there’s been William behind some of it. It does *feel* like there’s something malicious before Vanny/Glitchtrap and not a CEO.

[@johnman8398]

Thank you its a cop out answer.

[@Sock-Monster-Simian]

I don't believe that Gregory is a robot anymore. But I still really want SOMEONE to be a robot. Those are some of my favorite parts of the books

[@aydanneilson-bourke7378]

Thank you for answering my question! I’ve got a pretty solid theory of the main deaths of the series and that was the only thing that put it off so hearing that will definitely encourage me to finish it off and make a video of it :)

[@karthikeyanv661]

Where are you gonna post would love to watch

[@aydanneilson-bourke7378]

@@karthikeyanv661 Maybe one of the sub reddits. I'm still a really rough scriptwriter and I want to get a well versed point across. If I uploaded it to youtube, Ill try and remember to send you the link. It could be a while for all we know. thank you for being interested :)

[@MjfdfrHhgeshmjr]

We Well Miss MatPat So Much 💚❤️💛💙

[@Gooberpotomous]

💚❤️💛💙

[@epicblack55]

The headache theory can be backed up from the twisted ones where john gets sick cause from the illusion device. It is said to be high pitch and it “did something” he says

[@SeaKing_]

I shall update this comment but the cat gives me comfort watching this since im still very shaky on Matpat leaving(because sadness). Update: the cat left but good thing RyeToasts voice is soothing!

[@crystaljohnston2997]

@ijava-mm4sd your a nerd

[@BigFella99]

Get a grip

[@SeaKing_]

@@BigFella99 no thank you

[@SeaKing_]

@ijava-mm4sd ooo a bot! Yay!

[@blueberryelf1150]

I disagree with the CEO being no one because in the books Mr. Burrows is the chairman of the board, not CEO. The CEO and chairman usaly are separate in companies. Also, Fazbear ent somehow has CIA levels of resources and cover-ups, especially in the books story of Help wanted.

[@jessbeingme8155]

My theory is that Fazbear is basically Umbrella Corp. from Resident Evil. They have the backing of the government who wants access to their advanced robotics instead of REs bioweapon. FNAF 2 the toys are connected to a criminal database and have facial recognition in the 80s. Plus who is talking to Afton in Sisters location? To me it sounds like a government agent/handler

[@blueberryelf1150]

@@jessbeingme8155 I hate to say you might be right

[@emeraldqueen1994]

EVERYONE got emotional with Mat Pat’s final episodeS as host Would HENRY’S family be more likely to be CEO - if it was proven to NOT be a random person - in your opinion

[@jonathanbreeze5415]

I have a small alternative to your theory about how Molten MCI came about. It could be that, rather than him trying to get more remnant and dying causing Michael to go down to the bunker, it’s the other way around, where Michael goes down to the bunker and leaves with all the funtimes in his belly, and then William does follow me to try and get remnant for replacement animatronics to keep doing experiments, but dies in the process. I think this does a better job explaining Molten MCI because it means follow me can all happen in one night, without William having to go back later for some reason after he’s already put the remnant in the funtimes. I believe this because it solves a contradiction between two other things about sister location. 1. The line “right where you said she would be” implies that Will directly told Michael about the SL bunker, rather than Mike just going there after Will dies. If this is true, it means Follow Me can’t happen before SL. 2. Will has to get springlocked before Michael barfs up Ennard, or else Mike would just immediately find Will and try to kill him (“I’m going to come find you”). Both of these can be true if Follow Me takes place over a single day shortly after Mike getting scooped and before him barfing up Ennard.

[@abigailbishop8267]

I've been thinking the same thing! It's an interesting alternative to consider, because it would be so cool if William ever met/saw/knew about the Ennard-Michael amalgym.

[@professionalautist]

Darn dyslexia I read the title as my final theory lol almost had a heart attack

[@anchoracrisdart]

I think Gregory's eyes glitching when Vanny is close is due to the transponder still being on his head and it has that function of detecting Vanny's transponder signal and it warps Gregory's mind/vision because of that!

[@RFDN0]

That could be valid. Too bad that we didn't have any clue of that before RUIN.

[@ha-vj2pg]

@@RFDN0i mean you can also say that about the princess quest ending being the actual ending since security breach made it out to be that the burntrap ending was the canon one since it was the only one not drawn out as a comic. we only found out in ruin that the princess quest ending was the canon one so 🤷‍♀️

[@RFDN0]

@ha-vj2pg Actually, it is likely that Princess Questis is the only ending, not cannon. We also had with SB that Princess Quest is the only 3 star ending. Which is why we thought it could have been the true ending before RUIN. Princess Quest and Dismantly Vanny endings also have a cuts ene before the comic ending.

[@ha-vj2pg]

⁠@@RFDN0that is true but even when SB was released, there were debates on what the stars even meant and were different reasons to them. for instance the princess quest ending could’ve been the best outcome since we freed vanessa and escaped the pizzaplex hence the 3 stars

[@peachyman8211]

Thanks for having my question on the podcast, good to hear other viewpoints of the lore yknow. Also hearing my question while listening was awesome 😊

[@pinknblackproductions]

I've worked in customer service my whole working life (nearly 10 years now) I fully believe that the CEO of Fazbear in the new timeline just sucks cuz they often do. They're rarely there due to pure intelligence, it's mostly just they got money and even if they did work their way up to the top, that was 20+ years ago and everything has changed

[@mikayla5682]

Cried my eyes out watching his final game theory, he gave us so much!

[@melodysoundy7627]

Love this podcast. Sadly episode 21 + 22 are not uploading on Spotify.

[@RyeToast]

Fixing now, sorry about that!

[@melodysoundy7627]

​@@RyeToastIt's ok, thank you so much though these things happen sometimes.

[@charathedemon5939]

It would be cool if Sammy (Charlie's twin in the books) is the CEO. He is blood related, so it's not going to someone who married in the family. (That's why I disagreed with Mrs Afton being the CEO because she isn't blood related, so why would it go to her out of anyone else?) Also he could be actually important and not just a plot point vs how the books treated him. Henry kinda forgets and neglected Sammy in the books, so him doing the opposite from his father by making a giant mega-pizza plex would be a cool screw you moment. I just think it would be really cool if they actually use Henry's son as importance. If anyone actually reads this comment, what's your opinion about it?

[@DaeshawnKPeters]

WHY HENRY AND WILLIAM BOTH STARTED FALL FEST ALONG WITH HOW THEY MET THEORY My theory on how william and henry met and why fall that's so important. Not only do I believe fall fest was a forced collaboration by a city council or mayor. It's the reason why Afton hates Henry so much. If he had a part to creating those animatronics. Like sun and moon and all those circus things ones. It could be looked as jealousy by Afton. Saying that Henry is trying to overshadow him again. By them being forced to do this joint venture. Which would make it the first event of this timeline. By showing us that the fnaf corporation was truly accidental. The only reason why it came to be. Is because it was a forced venture by the towns or cities. Mayor city council maybe even some people in the city themselves. Seeing the potential of this type of amusement park type festival. I think this makes sense because it explains everything. The hatred for Henry the sudden Moon circus type. Why fall fest even matters in the first place. It's the origin but it's an accidental origin. Fazbear entertainment was never supposed to be. But due to fate it did through the people around them.

[@the_godbodor7026]

My issue with a greedy CEO cutting corners being the head of Fazbear is the VANNI masks. Both Ruin and Help Wanted 2 imply these masks were actually used by technicians to repair the pizzaplex, but the tech is far too advanced from what we’ve already seen in the series to have been just leftovers lying around while also being too advanced and most likely pricey for if your goal is cutting corners to make a profit.

[@andrewpolito9244]

For miss Anton’s age, she could also be using remnant to prolong her own life, like we saw with Michael. Also could Michael have become the CEO? Maybe he needs remnant to stay alive. It would explain his room hidden in the pizzaplex.

[@v0idtea]

i always will love just the "company bad" theories in why some things in fazbear entertainment are just shoddy & weird. it's not always a ghost or evil presence. it's corporate greed ON TOP OF all the supernatural stuff. so it's just bad on top of bad. & similar stuff happens irl. companies love making gross, inhumane, & dangerous risks just to cut corners to make money. it's a surreal, meta type of horror & i love it

[@andiem8575]

I really like your Mr. Burrows evil (regular) ceo idea, it makes a lot more sense to me

[@blue_lynch]

I would SO watch a video about shipwreck 64 made by you

[@maxgosselin62]

About Gregbot, while I do acknowledge that there's a lack of specific, direct, and CONCRETE evidence pointing to Gregory being a robot, I just think there's a lot of robot people stuff being implied throughout this franchise right now. More than him being a direct robotic recreation of the crying child, I suspect he's a real kid that was vetted for some level of similarity to CC (if CC is involved at all. It feels like there's narrative threads connecting both Vanessa and Gregory to Elizabeth and the crying child, but I could just be stupid), kidnapped, killed, and then replaced with a robotic recreation of himself that was programmed to be loyal to glitch trap. Honestly, I suspect that may be how becoming a servant to glitch trap may work in general. They're not brainwashed perse, more just "stuffed into a robot" that can be manipulated by glitch trap. Not too dissimilar to the control displayed by Afton over the animatronics (and by extension souls) in the fnaf movie and over the glamrocks in security breach during the burn trap fight. I think he may just be able to control things that are within the mimic network, and beating the arcade machines might just separate you from the main network. All of this is of course just conjecture, but it's an idea nonetheless

[@Lulutheplatypus]

I’ll miss MatPat, but still love GTLive and so excited for Tom!

[@lynndragon2536]

the problem is your looking for 'reasonable' motivation, serial killers don't have those motivations they have urges they need to deal with

[@elysainempire4628]

20+ year gaps are still common even today. It's less about women being treated as property and older men being veiwed as sexy/a better partner to woman. there actualy a few studies showing men are veiwed as more desirable in the late 40s early 50s, with Women in the early to mid 20s(for women it also comes down to the ability to have kids and early 20s are the best time for the women, physically and fertility wise). which is also why there's always been a tend to date 20-something women while most women tend to date older guys. Women also dating older men is an evelution development, as older men have proven the can survive the dangers the world can throw at them and provide for a family.

[@DaeshawnKPeters]

MY FNAF FALL FESTIVAL THEORY I have one theory about fall fest the first one is it's a prequel game. That shows us the real startup date of fazbear entertainment. Along with showing us the first death in the series. My theory is that Fall fest was a joint venture. It wasn't fazbear entertainment just yet. It was the blueprint of how a mostly animatronic. restaurant amventure could be for the future. I believe the designs of baby and the fun time animatronics sun and moon. Along with the balloon boy variants. Were williams actual first designs for this concept. That got put on shelf along with the cloth costumes. After fall fest burnt down due to one of Henry's animatronics. My theory is that this was one of the straws. That broke the camel's back in William. He already didn't like Henry. Along with now their first big venture into this fazbear idea blows up. Probably causing distrust in the community. For this type of restaurant an idea. which I also believe may prove that fazbear entertainment. Wasn't Henry's idea in the beginning. I believe it was actually afton's initial concept and ideas. That peaked Henry's interest into doing this first experiment. With fall fest or another part of this idea. could be fall fest with a side project idea. That was tested in 1977 to see if the concert worked. Either or gets you to the same result. William remembering from all those years in the past. Pushes him to kill Henry's daughter out of revenge. Of the recent and past failures underneath the fazbear brand throughout the years. You wouldn't just explain the slaughter it would explain his whole motive. In the earlier timeline of fazbear entertainment. It could also show that William thought Henry was vain. think about after the first set of murders. The suspension of William killing them. Henry taking it into his hands to push acting out. May have pushed him even further. Because he's saying I started this idea and brought you on. It's not the other way around showing us. That William never thought of this venture as a 50/50 split. He always thought of it being his own alone and he didn't really want Henry there. So he just allowed him to be there to think he important

[@earthtomaggie6620]

My biggest gripe with the whole “Mrs afton theory” is plain and simple: if they are divorced, why would she get his stuff? Why would she receive letters and bills *if they are divorced*?!? That’s the whole point of it! You could argue that they maybe were just separated but on what basis? It has always bugged me that they dragged this woman, who never played an active role in either the games nor the books (and not even the movie!), into this position, while even if you want to put your tinfoil hat on, Michael who mysteriously survived, or Charlie’s twin whose name I forgot would be more likely. But in the end I agree with Rye: it’s corporate ineptitude.

[@samarma6633]

I'm going to be honest saying "glamrock Freddy over time became sentient" is a fairly out there take. its more an illusion that have become more life like in the same vain of chat GPT. Glamrock Freddy simply has much more data that in can pull from to make more appropriate decisions making him more life like.

[@sfsin3380]

I suspect that Gregory's backstory wasn't set in stone in Security Breech. That there was a few options with potential hints and "Gregory is a robbot" was one of them that was scraped based the backlash to the theory. Scot Coffing's there is only one recon statement only makes sense to me if he leaves options open (because alot of people don't see that as a recon) and picks one later because the games sure seem to have pivoted more than once.

[@cactus472]

That theory 24 mins in is so good

[@Rena120577]

The idea they took parts from the og characters to repair the toys is like what!!??!! did they not notice any dead bodies when they were taking parts or did someone find the bodies, not say anything and remove and dispose of them?

[@chlorisc6078]

I Watch literally every single one of your videos when they come out, and i would love to watch a Shipwreck 64 Vid, im sure if people gave it a chance, it may be good for your channel. It may help you grow and reach out to other peoples interests, Im always here watching if you post anything unique ♥

[@hopscotch5617]

The age gap about mrs Afton makes sense. But regarding Gregory, Freddy said he didn't appear in his list of guest on the pizzaplex. How do you explain that?

[@HollowNaruto63]

I like how everyone treats him like he died or something

[@GJames-Legend101]

Personally until it’s officially confirmed who’s in charge I’m just gonna say that phone dude is the current CEO of fazbear entertainment, my main reason for this is because in fnaf 3 phone dude seems very enthusiastic and passionate about the fazbear frights horror attraction and he seems to like finding old memorabilia belonging to the company, and maybe after his horror attraction burned down he wanted a way to start over so maybe after the fnaf 6 fire at some point phone dude managed to restart/rebrand the company and become CEO, perhaps at some point he also learned about the mimic1 programming and glitchtrap and decided to help him out in his plan, he may have even been the one to send the old crust board and animatronic parts to silver parasol to make the Freddy fazbear virtual experience, so that would make them a sinister follower of glitchtrap and a greedy businessman. I also agree with Mrs Afton not being the CEO, mainly because I feel like she would be someone who’s trying to stop the company and put the past behind her and just move on.

[@GJames-Legend101]

A scary/dark thought I had of the ggy story is what if Gregory was just naturally evil and free willed through the story and the patient 46 therapy sessions, and what if he was the one in control of everything, but he somehow loses his memory and that’s why he turns good.

[@macintoshhjball4686]

ik it might not mean much but i loved watching your shipwrecked 64 live streams! so if you ever do a video or short maybe i’d watch it

[@DaeshawnKPeters]

WHO IS BURNT TRAP GLITCH TRAP AND MIMIC AND WHAT ARE THEIR ROLES THEORY My theory is that there are three entities trying to be William Afton. There's glitch trap there's burnt trap and then there is the mimic. Each one of them are components of Williams. True personality and being similar to voldemort in harry potter. The problem that happened. Is that each one of these components became self-aware. Which took at part of Williams real life soul with them. I believe burnt traps original plan. What's the combine his soul in essence with the AI of glitch trap. Then the body of the mimic. To come back into reality in the real world. My other idea is that he was supposed to come up with. A human body which we see and help wanted. But it didn't pan out due to that body killing itself. Which made it harder to finish his plan which is to come back into our world. Now the problem is there are three Williams. Who have their own agendas and goals from the original one. This would make all the inconsistencies. In these modern stories make sense. There's three Williams with three ideas. Merging onto one others idea then the next ones idea. Because each one of them is trying to do what they believe. William would do in that position and how he acts and plan and move. How William lives and breathe his whole being.

[@chestnut_dude]

Barely know what is shipwreck 64 but I'm willing to learn about it

[@khjwyxz]

For the MoltenMCI dilemma, is possible that the Ghost and the Remnant are separeted, where the Ghosts after Follow Me are freed and the Remnent remain in the Funtimes. Like, we know from the first trilogy that Circus Baby is possessed by the Remnant of Elisabeth but don't have her Ghost.

[@annabelle2523]

While I don't personally love the idea of Glamrock Freddy being possessed, it's too difficult for me to deny at least at this point. I have yet to think of another reasonable interpretation of the line "My friends are here. They are so angry. But I can protect you." (I may not have quoted it perfectly but you know what I'm talking about.) That line is right before you can descend down the hole, which you can only do without being killed by the tangle if you are in Freddy. The ones Freddy can protect you from are the tangle so the tangle are the friends he refers to.

[@DaeshawnKPeters]

WHY THE MISSING CHILDREN INCIDENT HAPPEN THEORY My theory is simple William hates fazbear entertainment now. My reasoning on why people do what he do. It's simply out of spite for Henry and everybody who helped create that legacy. He's outshine and outsmarted by a man he hates. His life starts to fall apart because of the restaurant. People start looking at the restaurant not because of him but because of Henry. The reason why he kills the children is to taint Henry's name. That joint restaurant wasn't his idea. It was a Henry idea with Henry's ideas. It brought up inadequacies within himself. It brought up pain due to losing his son his daughter to it. It takes his life eventually it makes him lose his wife. Williams story in my opinion is a man who was decent in the beginning. Maybe even good to a certain point. to a spiteful jealous psychotic science driven monster. Because he can't accept his inadequacies. That he's not the smartest person at the restaurant. That he's not really good at the restaurant business. But he can't accept that failure after failure. Push this man further and further to the darkness. Problem after problem push them further and further. He hates that restaurant because he wasn't the one. To make it successful to make it work. That half of it was him but the other half had to be Henry. The man he hates the man who stole his ideas. Is now his partner in this restaurant business. not just that has the nerve to have a living daughter at the time. While his son is fighting for his life in a hospital why does he deserve all these things. Henry doesn't deserve to be happy he's a deserves misery. William is trying to bring back his family and get revenge on the men he believes. Help take all that away from him.

[@ghostman-jq2ub]

32:40 literally lego movie lord business and the master builders

[@Sock-Monster-Simian]

I wouldn't watch a Shipwrecked64 video for the sole reason that I think it's amazing and want to play/find lore myself when I actually have the time to do so.

[@freehugs8060]

Another point against the idea of age being an issue for mrs. afton is the regenerative properties of remnant - immortality was the goal, so it's not unreasonable for lifespan extension to be found along the way.

[@TriplicateTrey]

You’re not wrong. Scott lived for years at the poverty line, while raising children. It is no wonder why he has a jaded view of the capitalist structure

[@molamola9723]

I never really disliked the whole Mrs afton theory, buts that’s all it should’ve been: a theory for an individual video. I don’t think matpat should’ve included such an unsubstantiated theory in what he labeled as the “ultimate timeline” which was meant to be definitive. The fact that he threw in such a speculative theory in when most of the timeline was supposed to be close to being objective just felt wrong.

[@johnman8398]

He should be allowed to put any theory he wants, it's his timeline. It isn't meant to be an objective timeline, he has made that very clear.

[@squeaky_window3552]

Ive listened to like 8 hours of people talking about shipwrecked 64 I can do it again please its so fun

[@TheSuperSnake313]

I've never wanted someone to become a Dr. Evil/James Bond villain more than Toast. Every time I see him with the cat... 🤣

[@quickhakker]

I do like both interpritations personally though i do prefer matts over yours purely because "family connection" both are definitly good

[@legend-qr5qm]

You could say that Gregory gets that visual infection because he's worn the vanity mask before and has it messing with his vision like the little chip that Cassie gets at the beginning of ruin from the mask which we know for a fact can mess with ones sight

[@Wizardjones69]

41:55 william is pratically the joker, theres no origin for him to be evil in the official timeline, most likely afton doesnt even remember his past, if he wants a past, he would had "multiple choices"

[@AkhierDragonheart]

I ugly cried and then slept for the rest of the day and the next

[@noxtinker2936]

Knowing Scott’s old job was working at the dollar tree and he’s religious background and bet that anti capitalism was intentional

[@monstrdog7031]

Game theories far from done, but we'll miss ya matpat. I hope he does play into the pit. Though now he's likely seen the holy Grail of lore 😂 Mrs. Afton also doesn't make sense if willy was kicked out of fazent since somewhere between the mci and right before fnaf2. Unless he was pulling some weird undercover boss, planting himself as a night guard and then day guard doesn't really scream that he's still in a high position :V

[@CalistoFury]

Here me out. What if this all started when Mrs. Afton died and William was so heartbroken that he stopped at nothing to bring her back.

[@venomousbook]

i have to ask, do you think matpat heard of Akira Toriama's passing, and if so do you think it would have solidified his decision to step down

[@ridtom6055]

Does it not make more sense that Gregory sees static because he has an occipital lobe implant

[@matthewpletsch7523]

Fnaf On Ice, when?

[@YourPalA.D]

since matpat is retired you should try to get him on the podcast

[@the_godbodor7026]

William is a bad father, nah. All he did was accidentally get two of his children killed and then sent the third one to get killed only for him to turn into a walking corpse, it’s not a big deal. Just some standard family drama.

[@vickytubbie997]

Doesn’t Scott have a game about satient robots? Its a pretty good game too

[@youraveragenerds]

Gib us shipwrecked 64 video we will let you eat we promise

[@hadeszero4526]

Last chance to dunk on Grandpa Pat. 😂

[@Charliehotdog79]

The one part for me personally that makes me 1000% disagree with the Ms. Afton theory is that Michael is in his teens, he might be adopted but i dunno.

[@454ChevelleSS]

Because you said it was the final, you have to talk about it at least 5 more times

[@EmmaBunny88]

Hey RyeToast, my email isn't working so I'm going to have to put my question on here and hope you see it as I'm either being daft or I've noticed something no one else has spoken about yet. In FNAF 4, we see Elizabeth's bedroom and she has a BED not a crib. Meaning she would have to have been at least over the age of 18 months or older, so would be present during this time and it may even explain her absence and help with the ordering of the timeline. What are your thoughts on this?

[@Dragon_fruitx]

Omg hi I love all your theory’s!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@ashtrro]

I think the first GT vid I watched was this really boring one about why the pipes in Mario are green, regardless I checked out his channel to find Significantly more entertaining videos. It’s just always stuck in my head the first vid I watched of his for some reason despite the video being kinda old when I watched it. But he sold like 11 year old me on some algae causing the pipes to be green or something. 😂😂

[@MR0KITTY]

All those bots came from Game Theory to here...

[@mariareina6951]

HEY RT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU DO YOU THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SEQUEL OF THE GAME RUIN DLC IN THE FUTURE MAYBE OR NOT? TELL ME PLEASE 🙏

[@MrCherrycoke18]

I mean Joe Biden is literally 81 and he’s President like why do people argue 80 is too old to do things

[@gaminganimators7000]

Yes

[@SCP-469]

0:00 HMM YA DONT SAY

[@gxldfnch]

Thank you Rye for the video !!!! Love your content always ❤❤❤ and love for Marq!!!

[@SuperlexPlays]

*Thanks for 0 like and 0 subscribers* 😧

[@emichusai8378]

MatPat will be missed from going over theories cause he taught things and went over his theories in an informative yet fun way. 💚❤️💛🩵Hopefully the new hosts could keep the fun😸😸

[@DaeshawnKPeters]

WHY HENRY AND WILLIAM BOTH STARTED FALL FEST ALONG WITH HOW THEY MET THEORY My theory on how william and henry met and why fall that's so important. Not only do I believe fall fest was a forced collaboration by a city council or mayor. It's the reason why Afton hates Henry so much. If he had a part to creating those animatronics. Like sun and moon and all those circus things ones. It could be looked as jealousy by Afton. Saying that Henry is trying to overshadow him again. By them being forced to do this joint venture. Which would make it the first event of this timeline. By showing us that the fnaf corporation was truly accidental. The only reason why it came to be. Is because it was a forced venture by the towns or cities. Mayor city council maybe even some people in the city themselves. Seeing the potential of this type of amusement park type festival. I think this makes sense because it explains everything. The hatred for Henry the sudden Moon circus type. Why fall fest even matters in the first place. It's the origin but it's an accidental origin. Fazbear entertainment was never supposed to be. But due to fate it did through the people around them.

[@charlier409]

What if the vanny visual effect is due to Gregory having the same implant that Cassie had in ruin?

[@DaeshawnKPeters]

WHY THE MISSING CHILDREN INCIDENT HAPPEN THEORY My theory is simple William hates fazbear entertainment now. My reasoning on why people do what he do. It's simply out of spite for Henry and everybody who helped create that legacy. He's outshine and outsmarted by a man he hates. His life starts to fall apart because of the restaurant. People start looking at the restaurant not because of him but because of Henry. The reason why he kills the children is to taint Henry's name. That joint restaurant wasn't his idea. It was a Henry idea with Henry's ideas. It brought up inadequacies within himself. It brought up pain due to losing his son his daughter to it. It takes his life eventually it makes him lose his wife. Williams story in my opinion is a man who was decent in the beginning. Maybe even good to a certain point. to a spiteful jealous psychotic science driven monster. Because he can't accept his inadequacies. That he's not the smartest person at the restaurant. That he's not really good at the restaurant business. But he can't accept that failure after failure. Push this man further and further to the darkness. Problem after problem push them further and further. He hates that restaurant because he wasn't the one. To make it successful to make it work. That half of it was him but the other half had to be Henry. The man he hates the man who stole his ideas. Is now his partner in this restaurant business. not just that has the nerve to have a living daughter at the time. While his son is fighting for his life in a hospital why does he deserve all these things. Henry doesn't deserve to be happy he's a deserves misery. William is trying to bring back his family and get revenge on the men he believes. Help take all that away from him.

[@DaeshawnKPeters]

WHY HENRY AND WILLIAM BOTH STARTED FALL FEST ALONG WITH HOW THEY MET THEORY My theory on how william and henry met and why fall that's so important. Not only do I believe fall fest was a forced collaboration by a city council or mayor. It's the reason why Afton hates Henry so much. If he had a part to creating those animatronics. Like sun and moon and all those circus things ones. It could be looked as jealousy by Afton. Saying that Henry is trying to overshadow him again. By them being forced to do this joint venture. Which would make it the first event of this timeline. By showing us that the fnaf corporation was truly accidental. The only reason why it came to be. Is because it was a forced venture by the towns or cities. Mayor city council maybe even some people in the city themselves. Seeing the potential of this type of amusement park type festival. I think this makes sense because it explains everything. The hatred for Henry the sudden Moon circus type. Why fall fest even matters in the first place. It's the origin but it's an accidental origin. Fazbear entertainment was never supposed to be. But due to fate it did through the people around them.

[@DaeshawnKPeters]

Theory is that there are three entities trying to be William Afton. There's glitch trap there's burnt trap and then there is the mimic. Each one of them are components of Williams. True personality and being similar to Voldemort and Harry Potter. The problem that happened. Is that each one of these components became self-aware. Which took at part of Williams real life soul with them. I believe burnt traps original plan. What's the combine his soul in essence with the AI of glitch trap. Then the body of the mimic. To come back into reality in the real world. My other idea is that he was supposed to come up with. A human body which we see and help wanted. But it didn't pan out due to that body killing itself. Which made it harder to finish his plan which is to come back into our world. Now the problem is there are three Williams. Who have their own agendas and goals from the original one. This would make all the inconsistencies. In these modern stories make sense. There's three Williams with three ideas. Merging onto one others idea then the next ones idea. Because each one of them is trying to do what they believe. William would do in that position.

[@SarrissElite]

It might be a small nitpick but I think it's important to avoid saying one theory is accurate or not. Be definition no theory can be any level of accuracy. Plausibility makes more sense.

[@annabelle2523]

I don't think "broken" was chosen to describe Gregory due to censorship. I've always found that theory kinda silly. They could have said "hurt" or "injured". Make no mistake, it's still not necessarily a hint toward Gregory being a robot. Could be a meaningless callback in the same vein as the Mr. Hippo magnet. Not really meant to be clue for anything just a little 'hehe it's the thing from before. I remember the thing.' Or like Rye said, they may have just done it as a cute thing for Freddy to say. Personally that's what I think for now. Freddy just a cute silly little guy

[@TactlessC]

Adults having age gaps isn't fucking weird and has nothing to do with women being seen as property. Also the age thing is absolutely valid in the world where the timeline jumping 30 years is absurd. Now if we agreed FNAF 3 took place in 2015 then we'd get somewhere.

[@TactlessC]

(it had to do with sexist standards of beauty and ability to earn money so older men were seen as more desireable for being stable breadwinners as much as young pretty women were sought after for looks)

[@Zero.Art81]

All I’m gonna say is for the 1st 2 seconds of seeing this thumb nail I thought Matpat was a guest on this episode ☠️ I got so happy then so sad lmao

[@matti.8465]

One of the basic rules of storytelling is "don't judge your characters". Whatever a character does, no matter how messed up, has to make sense to them. If your reasoning is "they're just crazy" then you're doing it wrong. That's why I think William needs a motivation. He doesn't need to be sympathetic, but he can't start killing only because the plot demands it. That's bad writing.

[@hedgie_doll2314]

How many things are the spirits able to possess? Like is there a certain number that their soul can take? I can't think of an example of a spirit possessing a completely new entity after the original animatronic. Like ennard and scrap baby still have parts of the original baby right? And if Michael is already possessing himself after being scooped then would he be able to possess glamrock freddy? Unless they scooped him again and stuffed the possession parts into freddy somhow? Idk. It's just a thing that's just always bothered me about that whole theory.