My first ever OFFICIAL wet race! on iRacing! | FIxed Ferrari at Watkins Glen

[@TheShideurH]

That was Sebastien Loeb who finished P2 ! Greatest rally driver of all time

[@endfm]

ya

[@stefanschuchardt5734]

THE Loeb? Loeb is randomly playing iRacing?

[@marysboi]

@@stefanschuchardt5734 Not randomly, he’s played it for years

[@stefanschuchardt5734]

@@marysboi speaks for the iracing service

[@dash0173]

I am LOVING this rain update. For whatever reason, i am a much better driver in the rain than i am in the dry. I think it might be because I am generally a more cautious driver and that hinders me in the dry but the cautiousness allows me to find a good balance in the wet. fuckin love it

[@frb5237]

It helps that iRacing is right now the only sim with an actual wet line instead of "drive normally but slippery"

[@h3sh926]

Same here! My pace is much more competitive in a wet race and I typically finish top 5. Loving this update, it's really fun.

[@YouTubeWatcher9000]

I tried it out and couldn’t get the hang of it. I think it’s mainly because I have to have my graphic settings pretty low because I have a bad computer which can’t run iracing on high settings without frame rate issues. Basically the car randomly acts like I just hit a puddle and goes hydroplaning off the track but I can’t see any standing water on the track.

[@troydonaldson]

@@frb5237 it's so much fun passing people around the outside who haven't figured this out yet lol

[@MrBobDobalinaNZ]

​@@KZbinWatcher9000not saying you're wrong, but just to check - have you watched any rain instructional videos about the wet line and dangers of the rubbered-in line? Could be that you're just hitting the low grip parts of the track, the difference is intense on some tracks. Also, I run with SSR off which I think is the main graphics option that effects puddles, and while they look different to Dave's, they are still showing where they are accurately

[@SoapSimRacer]

Dave, you change your mind about the amount of screens more times then I've had hot Sunday dinners 🤣🤣

[@thegreenroom5820]

I'm Guessing thats how to stay "in" the hobby. I have gotten board with the games. The tech is expensive but the next layer of the fun I guess.

[@seb-kun]

@@thegreenroom5820he's competing with Tyson on that :D

[@TheBombDiggity69420]

Good call getting the 48'" OLED. Now you have the perfect excuse to go triple 48" OLED.

[@oktc68]

🤣

[@colinpoyzer7479]

This update really needs more effective rain lights to penetrate the kicked up water (rooster tails). If you look at the rear cam the headlights of the following cars show through kicked up water fairly well. This would make it much easier to pinpoint the car in fronts position. The wipers and water droplets on the windscreen also needs improving. IMO

[@Rhythmic_Hammer]

If you have a proper HDR monitor, especially OLED, the rain lights are super bright and you can’t miss them. IRacing should really inform people of this while they work on fixing the light for SDR displays.

[@dannyleeracing]

Just had my own first official rain race today, too, in the Ferrari fixed at Watkins. Thomas Ronhaar also won that one... Rain is AWESOME

[@glitchinthematrix9306]

Grip..😂 or 😮?

[@dannyleeracing]

I mean who does he think he is, some kinda e-sports professional?!@@glitchinthematrix9306

[@BruceMcLeod]

I think it is interesting that you move away from triples as soon as you actually need them. The side window peripheral view is how you know where you are in the wet.

[@mementomori4972]

Can you explain what you mean please.

[@LukeVesty]

He means that in order to determine where you are on track when your front windshield is getting battered by spray, you can use your side windows to get a sense of where you are instead. You're almost having to look sideways to look for landmarks out the window and orient yourself@@mementomori4972

[@oktc68]

What? You can't see the wet out of the windscreen?

[@p0schti]

He's implying that what you see out of your side windows (i.g. your left and right screen with triples) is what you use to orientate and know where you are regarding braking zones; you can't see anything out of the windshield when you drive behind a car because of the spray of the car in front

[@TheEthem139]

Iracing forgot one thing, in the rain the rear lights of the vehicles flash so that the vehicles can follow better while under the influence of the spray.

[@bigpapi105]

They’ve come out and said they are working on a fix for that

[@sebastianre5232]

All guys wanted rain. Now it looks like real rain and that´s awesome. - But to be honest, it's exhausting and that's why I think the fun gets a bit lost

[@fermillo65]

Isn't it a lot more fun when there's a lot to do and the result is up in the air at every corner?

[@mattlampe]

Dave just staring at the camera while the lights go green is so freaking hilarious lol. His expression is priceless.

[@Nickvaughan81]

That low sun bouncing off the wet tarmac looks incredible. Good job iracing!

[@felipecodes]

Ronhaar winning in low grip conditions is the meta at this point in any sim. Stacked podium with Loeb and Ronhaar

[@Tijn313]

That’s funny! I just made a switch from a 48 inch monitor to triple 27 inch after watching your channel😂 I don’t have a lot of space in my room and was scared to switch from 48 inch to triple screen because I couldn’t fit bigger screens than 27 inch. My son and I are very happy with the switch! I hope you will enjoy your new monitor setup just as we do! Keep up the good work !

[@davecamyt]

I still think triple 27 is the sweet spot for triples 😁

[@Stu_Murph]

I run a single LG C1 OLED display, best screen I've ever had. The colours and contrast are amazing

[@AffyKoupps]

Rain is great to hear all the weird noises that Dave can make

[@stefanschuchardt5734]

I bet he has even more to offer

[@mrmidnight32]

People actually complained they wanted this 🤣

[@Kimchi21051]

Sebastien Loeb spotted! Goat

[@ichizos9615]

Driving myself on C2 42" and its really great for immersion!

[@vikingkombat9389]

I took pole last night at WG in my first rain race running 1.18s. It was nerve racking for a while. Just blind when behind cars was crazy. Forget the line, avoid the puddles. Even the smallest ones can be killers. It was a blast though. I just hope they don't make every damn race in the rain this season, just because its new.

[@zainoreflections]

Hi Dave, great content as always. Why the move away from triples? Space savings, additional FPS gains? How far away do you sit away from the new 48" TV? Any drawbacks from the larger screen you've seen yet? Thanks, sorry for all the questions. I currently on a single 27" monitor but looking to upgrade to triples, an ultrawide or just one large screen as you did.

[@gregspicer1238]

I've tried the single large 4k screen, but then went to 3 x 27" triples. For me triples offers so much more FoV than a single screen because you can angle it around your head, my FoV in iRacing is set at 205 degrees as my eyes are actaully in front of the rear of the side screens. Howver I can see the appeal of a single screen for simplicity, reliability and frame rate.

[@davecamyt]

Mainly space and it's much easier for content creation. FPS wise I could manage triple 1440 with my 3090 ok. I am 80 cm from the screen 👍

[@sparkyplug28]

After doing 2 races round here myself today this was great to watch. Your right rain is such a lever I was doing similar lap times to yourself which as a 1.4k IR is never normally true. In fact looking at the times in this race I’d of been middle of the pack which is down right incredible 😁 Chicane line is interesting I can tell you no one in bottom split is taking that dry line 😂

[@icon0clast274]

Any chance we can get a rig walkthrough or something, I'd love to see you perspective of the LG 48"

[@davecamyt]

Yes, I'll be doing one very soon 😁

[@Rene_Bo]

Brilliant Dave! Will you elaborate on why you switched screen again?

[@robn71]

Part of me was looking forward to trying out the rain this week then i woke up last week with double vision was really cursing about it but the more i try to watch videos of the rain I'm kind of happy i can't see well enough to drive

[@CatchiestWorm12]

I like the wider FOV for the video but I can't imagine it's better than triples for actually playing

[@davecamyt]

You're welcome 🤣 Seriously though, I guess it depends on your needs

[@logo8009]

@@davecamytDave, Good for you but, we have seen you go down this road before? You will be back. :)

[@SeaLion8488]

@@davecamyt Dave, if you weren't a content creator, would you stay with triples? I've heard this before from creators who, for various reasons, prefer producing videos on a single screen. Or, do you just prefer it aside from the content creation elements? What say you!?! ;)

[@BlackbeardKNAC]

I did one yesterday at Sebring, I do not think it was fun at all. The speeds were incredibly low and the race was boring. The track did not seem to change at all even though for the majority of the race it was single fiile racing because there was no grip to pass ,it seemed like just about every turn had puddles that would wipe you out. Hell, people were spinning out on the straights because of the puddles

[@summerfarmestates]

Was a close call more on you than him if anything I think a lot of top split drivers will venture backwards to a more realistic irating with the rain

[@OldManiRacing-fj4lg]

It is very realistic but I still feel the spray is too thick, the rain light is not penetrating the spray at all. Perhaps dial the spray thickness back just a little. By the way I prefer my 49 inch curved screen to triples. Good stuff Dave.

[@francoishornet]

Why going back to 1 screen?

[@samuelvanlane]

He's been flip flopping back and fourth between the two I don't understand why

[@roundearthshill248]

surely he'll get more OLED screens to be able to run triples. But I'd rather run a single OLED than triple LED/LCD panels. I use the 49" Samsung G9 OLED and it's pretty incredible

[@darmichar73]

The BenQ sponsorship ran its course.

[@robcampbell6099]

Whats the over/under in how long till Dave goes back to triples again this time. LOL... In all seriousness. What a race. Watkins is a perfect track for a rain race with all the elevation changes and curbs. Just wish it was the full boot layout.

[@oktc68]

Can't beat OLED for sim racing, feels so immediate, closest display to reality yet. Although you may be adding latency using a TV instead of a dedicated monitor.

[@davecamyt]

0.1ms response time so quicker than my monitors 👍

[@arkustheone277]

The way Christian turned in would have been fine in the dry. But in the wet you don't want to be on that apex curb so you we're in a decent spot. We're all learning in the rain now so yeah it's a racing incident.

[@thekingswitness658]

I use the 42” LG C2 for PC/PS5 gaming and 49” G9 ultrawide for sim racing. The quality of the LG is insane but even at upgrading it to 48” I’d prefer the ultrawide for racing. Have you tried the 57” Neo G9? Seems like the best of both worlds

[@patarmand3593]

you hit him. softly, but you hit him...

[@beyondtheapexracing]

I’ve been struggling in the rain, I raced IRL at mid Ohio in the rain at the 3 day high performance class and did so well in my class. I was excited when rain was coming to iracing but once I got to try it I realized I really need to get more seat time for sure.

[@Brenton656]

I also moved from triples to a single 4K 65 inch oled LG C1 120hz screen. I find it to be excellent

[@Rhythmic_Hammer]

Too big to have the screen decently close. If I was you, and I use to have a 65” LG C1 for iRacing, I’d change it to 21:9 resolution and then move the screen closer and the wheel won’t be gigantic.

[@MichaelDolances]

Great video! Love the rain racing. What made you switch to a single screen over triples?

[@flokamm98]

This will gonna be discussions and community learning by doing. Can you expect the inside to go on a wet curb, when you keep it close on the outside? I think of you want to go safe, as the outside you have to leave a car's space to the puddles/curb

[@Weyco23]

I have the same OLED, it is amazing.

[@shoots8080]

Hey Dave, always great stuff. Seeing that you still use Asetek, any chance you would share the wheelbase and in game settings you use for iracing? Still having a heck of a time getting iracing to feel decent. Thanks and Cheers!

[@glennfirth]

Be great to Thomas onboard to see how he was doing 1:16. Thats crazy!!!!

[@Nick_Kearney]

I just did three races in the Fix Ferrari GT3. All of them lost me iR and SR. Two of them I can blame the SR and iR loss on others. The third race tho, I had a random system lockup right when I needed to brake for the second last turn. I normally never have system lock ups in iRacing, so that's concerning. But given how I've gone from slow and accident prone on day 1 of rain to actually having some sembilence of pace and not being the cause of accidents I feel like we will see fewer accidents and more good racing after people get more wet laps under their belts.

[@punishunext5148]

Get use to it in the rain. Turn off SSR and turn down others

[@rwschumm]

To me, the appearance of the spray 'bubble' dissipates too fast (ie, should be more light spray in a larger area behind the car). But from a practical point, I can understand this allows less-experienced sim drivers, like me, to get more visibility of the cars ahead.

[@regibson23]

Classic Christian Ortega. Turns in like you're not there.

[@jackmakackov7077]

So 2 more TVs in a couple weeks?

[@jibbestorm3524]

Nice job mate i drove this yesterday but i did not know it was official 😅 so i went flat out and won 😂

[@tonyf9076]

@Dave Cam have you tried SSR on rain high, great for puddle spotting but may be a perf hit ?

[@GiosSimCorner]

One request needs to happen. Brighter rain light thats all I need

[@gdarazi]

@14:03 u actually got 0X the 2X were from the contact with Christian.

[@colsaber]

See if this setup lasts and ages like fine trackir

[@19Silverboy82]

Great video Dave I’ve been avoiding the rain races tbh I can’t afford to lose irating yet I’m a new to iracing

[@richardphillips3862]

Then you hit those puddles it's game over 😂

[@Logxc]

Especially under braking, but loving the challenge 😂

[@CobraAce04]

Wait, was that really Sebastien Loeb in P2? holy shit. Didn't know he was on iRacing if it really is him

[@samdajellybeenie14]

Sky looks fantastic on the start!

[@Genarek8]

is it The Seb Loeb or someone just fooling around?

[@LARGEER]

Thomas ronhaar was in the race so maybe

[@Nick_Kearney]

I'm pretty sure it is. Before iRacing killed everyone's profiles I looked at his profile after I raced against him last year and it looked like a genuine account for Seb Loeb. He won the race by a large margin, I finished right behind the guy in second to get a comfortable 3rd.

[@JesusGonzalezPR]

I have the same monitor, LG UltraOled 48 and more than happy.

[@rpcorp]

Hi Dave, what’s the best way to change to wet tires during a race? How do you have it mapped so you don’t need the mouse? Many thanks!!

[@davecamyt]

Unfortunately you have to use the mouse with the black box or setup a funky switch to contro the menus in itacing. I'd just change to the opposite tyre on the grid before I startl

[@rpcorp]

@@davecamyt thank you Dave!!

[@A.I.musicIntelligence]

its just stupid without visible rain lights, are they gonna be fixing that, they only seem visible up close?

[@ilzee_vk]

I think this FOV is very good for a video, you can see a lot in front of the car

[@KinGzeDK]

Did a couple of races on nords and even won one of them. Then I tried Sebring and was like... nope...

[@brandonmehlenbacher5668]

Dave should I pull the trigger for triple 32”? Currently on a 34” ultra wide qd oled

[@Matt18880]

Be bold, race your main account Dave 😂!

[@BelowAverageRacing]

I use VR. This looks like a heart attack waiting to happen 😂

[@onuraytugar]

Hi Dave, I remember that in one of your previous videos you said wide screens are waste of money, triples are the best for the rig. Now you are saying wide screen is perfect. What made change your mind? Will you make a video about your new screen and setup? I am about to build a new rig and your I respect your opinion.

[@davecamyt]

I've never said wide screens are a waste, they are a fantastic compromise and you can't beat triples for fov. But, as a content creator a single 16/9 screen is perfect. 😁

[@mattronin2647]

Mate that race was butt-wrenching lol... Rough visibility!!

[@KaarMar]

Dave on the first lap : I don't see a sh*t

[@alanluth6755]

For rain races you just gotta qualify on pole so you're the only one with a clear view

[@scarcatch]

can't wait to race again tomorrow

[@richmurphy8337]

Cant help but notice you were only putting the smurf at risk here Dave!

[@antispeed]

Hey Dave! A couple tips for the rain: stay off of puddles, paint, and concrete. It looked like you were just using the normal dry line, which is the opposite of what you want to do. You should be hunting for grip, experimenting off line every corner on every lap. Enter corners on the inside, slide across the dry line to the outside, take the outside rimshot, then get back to the inside to accelerate. Stay away from anything bright or shiny, dark pavement is where the grip is. Every lap is going to be different so make mental notes of where you've found grip or lack of grip, but be ready to change your line and experiment more if it looks like things might start drying out. When you're following another car, you need to use the outside edges of your vision to know where you are. Remember the draft works the same, so you need to learn to drive blind if you want to make passes! Vision is absolute shit in the rain, there's no way around it (other than being in front). Rain lights might get a buff, but in reality they aren't as effective as people think.

[@zeekot4064]

Can’t wait for you to go back to triples in a few weeks lol

[@Billybaka]

i think we need more standing start for road that is, rolling start bores me to death :P for oval its ok, good one dave, nim got some work on some of those people :P , i love the rain i think its really well done and it feels just like it, amazing

[@racingwithryan214]

I feel for rain i have to use a radar :)

[@ThEtEcHnOsAm]

Dave loves a dry line 😂

[@1LinkRacing]

So dave do you prefer this single screen to the tripple 1440s ?

[@davecamyt]

Yes right now I'm loving it 👍

[@paulorsbrito]

Is the Ferrari 488 evo really dead?

[@SosaKinkos]

I would love to live around you. Id have the best displays in the world considering the amount of times you have tried to ditch triples. Come on Dave stop trying to replace triples until a 32:9 curved monitor hits the market

[@TheMrdhyde]

Nice to see you Dave. I left sim racing for a bit for flight sim. Still love the sim racing but I'm a better pilot of sim aircraft.

[@garywalsh9750]

Right am i missing something in the set up of my car in the wet, not a chance can i get round as quick as that 🤔

[@roundearthshill248]

This is fixed series so no setup change. I did notice he's running a brake bias of 47, which is lower than I usually run in the wet. Something to try later. But yea bro, this was a really high SoF lobby with one dude having an iRating of 8k, even Dave is almost 4k so yeah he's faster than you and me. iRating is a direct refection of how quick/consistent you are.

[@arride4590]

DD wheel is much better than a g29? Im thinking to buy a DD wheel. I see some guys in Iracing driving too fast in the corners while i trying so hard to keep the car in the track. Feels like they know exactly the limit of the car in the corners.

[@cooperjb12]

So - it helps, definitely helps a lot in iRacing where their FFB is pretty exceptional. But there's a lot you can learn and you can very much still be quite good with a G29.

[@lancekeltner2625]

Thebthi to you really want is a load cell pedal. That makes a difference.

[@roundearthshill248]

You didn't get the 2x for the brush with the wall you got the 2x when you tangled with Christian

[@Williamsl99]

I bought a curved 49” Samsung and ditched my 27” triple screens. So happy to get rid of bezels. Won’t go back.

[@yoMXTT]

what ever happened to iRacings in game UI update that they showed? Really bummed its not in this update.

[@MrBobDobalinaNZ]

Was never supposed to be in this update, it's coming later (soon™)

[@yoMXTT]

@@MrBobDobalinaNZ thats a big bummer honestly. From what was teased it looked good.

[@MrBobDobalinaNZ]

@@yoMXTT sure does. Hopefully not too long now

[@mlondipraiseworth3223]

Why move away triples Dav?

[@Kozi03]

God speed my friend. The SR system was horrible before rain. Everyone's SR will tank OR people wont race rain ranked races

[@sonnyhelms2962]

Hello Dave can you tell us the brand of the tv is it 4k or 1440p I have triples was considering going to a single screen.

[@davecamyt]

It's a 48" LG C3 Evo OLED 👍

[@sonnyhelms2962]

@@davecamyt thank you

[@alexachilles90]

Does safety rating gains weigh higher in the rain versus in the dry? Meaning if I have 0 incidents in the rain, do I gain higher safety rating versus 0 incidents in the dry for the same race?

[@davecamyt]

No exactly the same wet or dry

[@alexachilles90]

thanks!@@davecamyt

[@roundearthshill248]

a great question and it definitely should! Something to keep in mind is that if Dave weren't an A license holder he would have gained SR on this race with only a 2x. The higher your license the higher the standard is. So a rookie running a rookie race will gain a lot of SR with a 2x while an A license holder running a D class race will possible lose SR or just stay the same with a 2x. It all comes down to turns per incident. And since lower class races tend to be shorter the inc. points hit harder. While a 2x in a 3 hour endurance race will gain you lots of SR.

[@HempGamerOG]

IRacing rain …. When senna meets stevie wonder 😅

[@darknewt9959]

Yeah, this is why I was never interested in getting rain in iRacing. There is no joy to be had. Only stress and pain. There are so many more important things they could have worked on.

[@gnb1222]

Every week is week 13

[@LukeVesty]

Until iRacing gets the rain lights issue sorted this seems just a bit too sketchy I reckon.

[@RalphB0y]

What monitor did you get Dave ?

[@davecamyt]

I got the 48" LG C3 Evo OLED 👍

[@alchemysticwitch]

people have been driving like idiots today, my SR went from a C3.5 to a C1.5, and most of that was in the dry too

[@roundearthshill248]

you went from 3.5 to 1.5 in a single day? Yeah that's definitely not all them bro. You're putting yourself in some precarious situations. Aggression exceeding your talent.

[@alchemysticwitch]

@@roundearthshill248 literally get intentional wrecked every race, probably for being a girl (definitely at least once for that reason)

[@roundearthshill248]

@@alchemysticwitch you must be in some really low splits to be encountering people like that regularly. Sub 1k iR?

[@alchemysticwitch]

@@roundearthshill248 yeah, between 500 and 700

[@Adam-ub9nu]

Man, those first few minutes were fairly harrowing, eh?

[@fingers68]

That looked bloody awful, did you require a chiropractor and massage after... Never seen someone look so tense, for so long before. 😂

[@wojtaz8363]

Srsly Sebastian Loeb wow

[@Alan-ww8vi]

It's a bit tragic that you didn't recognise the name Sebastian Loeb =\

[@davecamyt]

I did 😁

[@herbertdow]

Sebastien was THAT Sebastien, not?

[@peermancolin]

Hi Dave, link to the screen please

[@meawayfromhome]

@peermancolin I would wait he’ll have a different one next week 🤣

[@peermancolin]

🤣@@meawayfromhome

[@davecamyt]

After dropping £1100 on it I doubt it 🤣

[@jamesswinbanks]

Not really a racing incident. It was a half committed move on your part and I feel you should’ve ceded position once it was clear you weren’t going to get fully alongside under brakes. But aside from that, nice race.

[@davecamyt]

I disagree. I think I'd put myself in a position to have earned the space. I'm not saying it was my corner (far from it) but if you try and slingshot past taking a conventional line that can happen. I was on the outside with another car also in this race and I left room and continued.

[@WNxJohnDoe]

I agree with James here. I think Dave has a more liberal view than I do on what entitles you to racing room based on spotters and other tools made available by telemetry. I am more old school that if you aren’t alongside before the apex you cannot expect to be seen and are therefore at fault in contact. IMSA broadcasters commonly refer to this as an overly ambitious lunge.

[@davecamyt]

@@WNxJohnDoe nothing 'lungy' about this at all. I was alongside, left more than enough room to my left, didn't send it and push wide on exit. I could easily have had my nose in front forcing the move if I wanted. This was a conservative 'look'. Not sure what else you expect me to do.

[@jamesswinbanks]

@@davecamyt all fair to disagree here, and no malice meant from my interpretation. My usual approach is to always look at what more I could’ve done to avoid a collision, and it’s very rare that the answer is ‘nothing.’ I think it would’ve been better to force the move if you were able too, as a “look” where you have a small part alongside and you keep that there through the centre of the corner makes you both lose a bunch of time to the cars around you. But again, that’s just my interpretation and approach. All the best, Dave 🙂

[@davecamyt]

@@jamesswinbanks that's why racing is so good. There's always a flip side 😁