My First Time Hearing Will Ramos! Professional Singer Reaction & Vocal ANALYSIS | Into the Hellfire

[@MrMontag95]

Please check out Will's vocal playthrough on his own YT channel, you'll get to hear his voice so much more!

[@silvandarart]

Seconded, it's fantastic

[@Bravothree2]

I second this! To the hellfire one take!

[@felicitydarhk2818]

yes absolutely, it will give the insight in how Will is doing it :)

[@Veritas_est_Veritas]

Agreed. He makes it look effortless. Yes, there is a little (excellent) layering in the video. Is his performance any less impressive on his vocal plathroughs? Nope, even more so.

[@tomfoolery342]

Then, while you're enraptured and fascinated by his effortless performance, and left stunned......he looks straight into the camera and says, "Thanks for watching" in the deepest most nonchalant voice possible and slaps you back into reality!! EPIC!!

[@LVL80HUNTERPWNZZ]

With all these opera singers getting into deathcore I'm stoked for the dawn of operacore in 2030, Also loving these reactions / analysis videos, great content!

[@PeterBarber]

that'd be wild

[@AlexanderPochertPiano]

Listen to Igorrr - ieuD if you haven't already :-)

[@rolsen1304]

@@AlexanderPochertPiano Haha yes!

[@0blivvy8]

So not operacore, which sounds sick, but I gotta recommend a prog metal x classical/jazz fusion band- Artificial Language. They're all so talented and super underrated! I recommend the songs 'Unself Portrait', 'Endless Naught' and 'The Wild Haunt'.

[@aprilkasten]

Yes!!! I’ve always felt the parallels between deathcore/super heavy music and more classical/ opera music. Both fully illustrate texture and layers through a journey. Both evoke and conjure so much emotion

[@frosty980]

About the lyrics: I listen to harsh vocals like they’re another instrument on initial listens of songs, later I look up the lyrics and it adds another layer when listening again.

[@ryanrobinson4072]

Absolutely! I usually hear the vocals first as a beat in the mix. I usually don’t pay mind to the actual words unless the music has done its part for me. Then I will go back and focus on lyrics. It’s a total experience and dissection of the overall art and it’s the process of processing that makes me love heavier music. There are so many layers that you can discover and rediscover over and over in each song. It’s very complex and love it

[@Pulskapulkka]

On initial listen 100% agree, its more like a extra melody or instrument. But i dont rly look up the lyrics. I just "make my own lyrics" if that makes anysense 😂

[@Alexis-er8wn]

same here

[@Nefville]

Exactly. I remember Enslaved talking about how the vocals were used first and foremost as an instrument and I expect many many bands approach it the same way. And it works.

[@atuXV]

I personally don’t care much about lyric content and enjoy the harsh vocal as another instrument. A lot of Deathcore lyric content isn’t necessarily my cup of tea. Check out Infant Annihilator, satire at its most ascetically intense

[@doctajuice]

Even an opera singer gets the stank face and the head bob when that chorus hits 😂😂😂

[@The0nlyy]

Please cover “Without You / Without Us” by WHITECHAPEL TRUST ME it would make a good video

[@vandermar1979]

Will is a big fan of opera and is just a golden retriever of a human being who just happens to be able to sing like a demon lol.

[@PeterBarber]

😂😂😂

[@michaelgiaquinto3295]

Fuck you a golden retriever one way or another no matter how you cut it. I love goldens. Best dogs ever!!!!

[@michaelgiaquinto3295]

I’m joking around. I love you. I can’t stand. This can’t be able to say what you want to say type of shit.

[@michaelgiaquinto3295]

Also, can I just say I love the fact that this is a 30 minute long video because of how analyzing you get with it and I absolutely appreciate you for it

[@kokkolintu3528]

I always think golden-doodle, because he has poodle-type hair 😄

[@rlGinjaNinja]

peter: listens to 'to the hellfire' also peter: this guy was at my opera last night i know, i know, but it's still funny lol

[@MrZip420]

Austin Archey is a legend of a drummer in this genre. a goddamn machine

[@Jistarii]

What's so amazing about Archey is that he doesn't even look like he's trying. They just posted a video of them doing a playthrough of three songs and he's so chill. To pull this level of calmness while chaos is astounding.

[@alexsabat2639]

It looks like he's sleeping at some points lol

[@Tnepi]

@@Jistarii Cause he's usually on weed or smth

[@RhamanaChan]

@@Jistarii If thats the video I'm thinking of he was actually sick with a cold or something too, he is a machine!

[@arielstruth]

Also, you need to see/listen to the Pain Remains trilogy!! It’s a bit softer, some describing it as ‘symphonic death core’…. It’s absolutely gut wrenchingly beautiful!

[@JariJuslin]

I concur.

[@Vulcan.]

yessss, the deathcore ballad

[@McGovney1286]

Then the live they just did cause it’s just as good.

[@dianediamoon13]

Yes, this! To use for a reaction with lyrics, try OmNomicon’s channel Pain Remains Trilogy video (I saw this on another reaction channel). They did a great job of linking the 3 videos together and having lyrics at the bottom. Easy to follow for better understanding and you get the whole trilogy video experience which is amazing. Highly recommend.

[@Vulcan.]

@@dianediamoon13 yess, that's my favourite one, i've watched it a few times

[@alexhughes5551]

Go check out The Charismatic Voice, Elizabeth has several videos with Will including her famous throat camera video where she actually put a camera down Will's throat and showed how the vocal folds acted with different forms of his harsh vocals.

[@deed5811]

Elizabeth arranged vocal doctors/researchers to use the camera on Will. They were mind blown 😂

[@samcrorie]

I was going to recommend this too. The doctors minds were blown.

[@dillonsronce2583]

That camera video was awesome because doctors said they had never even seen anything like that before.

[@midnightskyofficial]

He literally mentioned her in the intro of this video. I’m sure he’s aware

[@fartvader84yearsago8]

​@@midnightskyofficialyeah, they are friends.

[@AgentZ1OO1]

Watch the One Take Playthrough of this where You can study all his vocal artistics! ♥

[@wahhnopfp]

I heard a pretty interesting analogy in terms of why metalheads have zero issue not being able to understand the lyrics or veery loosely follow along : "When we hear a singer performing in another language than our own, we tend to not really care as much about understanding the words at that moment but rather try to understand the passion in the voice and the technique. In the same sense, we try to do the same with harsh vocals. We might not be able to understand the lyrics well, but goddamn are the vocal techniques that keep getting either invented or put a spin on is fascinating, and the passion behind what they do." Another quote I liked, came across it not too long ago : If we have genres of music like we do movies, why can't there be a horror genre? That's what the really heavy metal portrays to me. You have singers that sound like goblins, zombies, demons, eldritch abominations. Sounds like horror to me"

[@PlaceHolder994]

Metal being the equivalent of horror for music is my new favorite comparison, because it makes so much sense, lol.

[@PRC533]

That's why I was always a big rammstein fan, because vocals are just another instrument to me first and foremost. Well performed vocals transcend language.

[@LS-yh5el]

You should listen to one of the Sleep Token covers he does. His clean vocals are really good as well.

[@samcrorie]

This too. He does a few covers where he uses clean vocals and it's really good.

[@xpiratepatx]

Alkaline especially!!!! That bit that Will adds to the end. Always gives me chills.

[@boih8436]

@@xpiratepatxAlkaline, do you mean Hypnosis perhaps? To my knowledge he hasn’t done an Alkaline cover

[@MicheleNicole]

I'm very addicted to Will doing Sleep Token.

[@CavaliereDellaRosaRossa]

@@boih8436 guess they meant "Chokehold"

[@TaverenTech]

Ok, for some really good clean singing, see Will Ramos cover of Sleep Tokens: Choke Hold

[@halox3xdraven]

"This song has so many lyrics" someone hasn't heard SUN//EATER yet.

[@anastasiaftw5454]

That's my fav Lorna jam. Icarus is my boi

[@claya1532]

Will is the nicest and most energetic person. This song was the first they released with Will as vocalist and basically was a showcase of everything he can do (the band too, all the members are amazing).

[@ashleighjandrasec2926]

You’ve got to watch a drum play through of this song, he is as cool as a cucumber, I’ve never seen deathcore drummer look more like a swan. Graceful on top, legs kicking like crazy!!

[@WittyWhitmire]

You gotta see Will's one take vocal of this song. It is absolutely amazing.

[@lesliehamilton2020]

I wish he'd do a one take playthrough of Wrath. That's my favorite song on the new album. It's got so many techniques and layers.

[@Fenthule]

You absolutely get adjusted to the sound of these types of growls with exposure. You start to pick up certain consonant sounds and can dissect the lyrics from them easily enough. I hear this like plain English now - but it also helps that I can do what Will's doing (less professionally of course LOL) Also a note on the genre having abrupt shifts, you should get into some prog metal. Something like Periphery would be a great addition to your channel.

[@Necromanticfantasy]

I’d also suggest Dir En Grey to add to the list of prog/experimental metal.

[@TheOrthoglyph]

​@@NecromanticfantasyIs Dir still around? I swear I first listened to them in maybe 2004 or so. I had a few of their songs I got off limewire when I was still on dialup lol

[@CaymanKercheval]

YESS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR WILL RAMOS ON HEREEE, his one takes on his youtube channel are AMAZING especially for breaking down the vocal techniques!

[@grumblestiltskin13]

So excited to see this!! As for lyrics, I definitely pull them up for a first-time listen. And maybe a couple after that 😅 but I’ve found the more I listen to a particular vocalist, the easier it gets to parse out what they’re saying because my ear just gets used to it. Looking at the lyrics definitely helps though!

[@lolrachie1]

As a vocalist you absolutely have to listen to one of his vocal play throughs on his channel and hear him singing unedited!

[@kuneefay]

Will is wild. Have to recommend any of his vocal one takes. My personal favorites being for Of The Abyss, and Sun // Eater

[@Sithhy]

Sun//Eater takes the cake for me overall

[@doomsayeth]

I am a metalhead who found Elizabeth channel shortly before I found Lorna Shore. Then they did vids together and I rejoiced (in the coming oblivion) that metal was getting time in the sun. So many talents artists to find! Hurray Will Ramos!

[@thewhale8835]

This reaction was awesome! Usually when a person who doesn’t listen to metal would react to a song like this they kind of dismiss it or don’t appreciate it, but because you understand the skill and insanity of a vocal performance like will’s, it blew your mind. Super awesome!

[@StephenChapman]

As everyone else has suggested, the one-take vocal playthrough of this song on Will's channel will blow you away even more!

[@lisagubbins6772]

When i was a teenager i fell in love with death metal , im 50 now n i am loving all the new varients of death metal and to answer ur question on hearing lyrics u get used to how the singers sing the words, it does vary from singer to singer, but on the whole u can pick up key words usually in the chorus's 🤘🏼🖤🤘🏼

[@aceofbass131]

I love the connection you made with kpop. Reasons I don’t like typical pop music, but k-pop/pop and metalcore/deathcore.

[@derman1907]

I feel the same way about K-pop and J-pop to slightly lesser extent. My primary music is metal like symphonic, power, melodic death, and more recently deathcore, but K-pop is really interesting.

[@gmkarid]

You should watch the video where Elisabeth stuck an endoscope down Will's throat while he did these vocals (well, not her personaly... a doctor but you get the idea lol). It's fascinating!!

[@shannonlasell]

terminology of death core vocals is like terminology of skateboard tricks.

[@dfdoom9153]

The fact this guy had a camera down his throat and professional throat specialists couldn’t even explain how will makes some of the noises he does!

[@JariJuslin]

Thanks! Will has also made a one take vocal performance of this very song, where you can see his face making all the sounds clearly and witness how he does not need fancy editing and layering to be a beast. For reactions I might suggest Will Ramos doing vocal cover of Sleep Token: Chokehold. There you can hear his gorgeous cleans and get an idea about what his singing voice sounds like. Some screams, too, to showcase the smooth transitions. When it comes to metal lyrics, the long standing tradition has been to sit down with a new album with lyrics leaflet in your hand for couple of first listens so you learn to follow the lyrics. This was done already on era with lot less distorted lyrics, and it still works.

[@casuallybad]

I second this.

[@JariJuslin]

It seems to me the very best screamers tend to have very good clean singing capabilities, too. It might be related to the fact that to do dirty vocals on very high level you have to have really solid breath support and knowledge about how to manipulate the vocal tract. Which then lays a foundation for interesting cleans, too.

[@dianediamoon13]

I third this. @PeterBarber - please take this comment plus lots of other good info in the comments section into account and react to more of Will - would love to see it!

[@robertbrannan9375]

I like how will and Elizabeth just ended up best friends 🤣🤣🤣

[@mathewseaman5469]

His cover of chokehold is super clean, and was like wow will actually CAN sing 🤣🤣 all his one takes too show off his abilities super well. His pain remains trilogy of like a deathcore ballot

[@JoshuaKnab]

This is great! Can't wait for the: "human scream or animal noise?" gameshow 😂😅🤣

[@Shaun-hp2yz]

theres on an youtube called man or beast

[@sykoteddy]

I can never get enough of these reaction videos of extreme metal and harsh vocals. Both because of the shock factor and because of how interesting it is to hear someone trying to explain how they are made. For me regarding listening to music I kind of rarely listen to the lyrics, or even look them up. I know I often miss out a lot but I've always just accepted the vocals as "just" another instrument. I remember once when I looked up the lyrics to a metal song I got disappointed and since then I've kind of avoided it. I most likely have a bunch of diagnoses, whereas ADHD is one of them, so I easily get overload if there's too many impressions. Most people gets over exited by this kind of music but for me it's kind of more relaxing, I know it sounds odd but the only way I can explain it is that it must be a combination of my ADHD and that I have blood type A that naturally has a higher level of cortisol, which is a stress hormone. I work my best when I can have a wall of sound around me, so I can focus on what I want to do. That's when I thrive! Something else I've noticed with myself is that I am drawn to music with odd time signatures and seemingly irregular tempo. I don't know why. You are totally right about the drummer (all of the band members are of course very talented). But check out one of the videos where he plays one of their songs on Meinl cymbals. He is not even having his eyes open during the fastest parts, but when he plays the slow parts he does. This video perfectly shows that with the commentary of another drummer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2G3l2Ocl5enepIsi=aoDbCxPXJI9MD2b0 Btw, this is Symphonic Deathcore so you are right about the strings other than guitars. I am also impressed that you got deathcore right, because many don't. A hallmark for deathcore music is the breakdowns. Another band that is starting to get more attention, and rightfully so is Mental Cruelty. The music videos for Lorna Shore and Mental Cruelty's videos are directed by the same dude so you'll see some similarities. I'd totally love to see you, Elizabeth and Will do a reaction together to one of Mental Cruelty's songs from the last album Zwielicht. Even tough I love Will Ramos and Lorna Shore, I am a bit more infatuated in Mental Cruelty because they are taking a bit darker approach since they with the last album started to implement black metal to their music. So it's now Symphonic Blackened Deathcore. I guess some of the reason for why I like them so much, besides the before mentioned, is that I have my roots in Germany but I am from Sweden. Btw, you do know there is a harsh vocalist that also is named Barber right? Tom Barber, an obvious check out!

[@stevekozlowski5963]

Came for the reaction to the pig squeals, stayed for the awesome commentary

[@joshbyrns654]

Lyrics: You develop the ability to understand it, for the most part. I check lyrics for things I don't catch, and by the time you're at a show, you're singing along.

[@The_Crab_Whisperer]

So great to have a genuine, and insightful reaction to this track and not just people pulling faces. Great stuff! Really appreciated you breaking down various elements; not just the vocals.

[@KiriEdge]

Wow you just met two KZbin/musical LEGENDS and barely even realised xD I love it

[@CradleOfDeath666]

check out Into The Earth. I think that songs breakdowns showcase how filthy Will's lows really are. and of course the emotional ride of the Pain Remains trilogy.

[@codytutor567]

After your video for Alex and Slaughter to Prevail, I was wondering how long it would take for you to look into Will and Lorna Shore. Excited about this one!

[@mkennedy319]

The playthroughs are a must really.

[@OnyxRose6]

You definitely become accustomed to the style of singing where you start understanding it faster the more you listen to this type of music

[@missrubyphoenix]

I'm expecting you to go down the rabbit hole as quickly as Elizabeth did and, in the process, she and Will became besties

[@HeidiBullard]

Absolutely love the stank face Peter, lol.

[@jackwimhurst8704]

Will and Alex have really opened a lot of people’s eyes to harsher metal genres. So good to see!

[@KellyMHale]

Even if it's on your own time, check out the one take playthrough of this song from Will. It's on his YT channel. It's crazy to see how casual and relaxed he is when doing these crazy harsh vocals. He also has done vocal playthroughs with clean singing as well. I recommend his cover of Sleep Token's "Hypnosis" for that.

[@jesuslovesthebroken]

I love that when you explained stereoscopic, you exampled it by moving the sound from left right, genius!

[@brandongallegos4909]

26:14 Kudos to Peter and Editor for making the small audio direction switch up while Peter is explaining Stereoscopic Image. Very nice touch and one that I don't think very many people would take the time to do, so very nice work and thank you!

[@2wheeljunkiesbrucemuller766]

As it seems you really like the drumming, you should check out the drum playthroughs by both Lorna shore and slaughter to prevail! Just insane to see how fast they play

[@FrickeRobert]

Love when people have open minds towards new music. Great video🙂

[@Chambalam]

I was watching your analysis and breakdown on Gigi's cover of Unholy, you mentioned that you like dark gritty stuff so here's a new rabbit hole for you to dive into-Ado. I reccomend going for 1) Usseewa 2) Unravel 3) Crime and Punishment 4) Tot Musica Any of those. Your videos are amazing, as always.

[@Rome_Emor]

Thought I was having an aneurysm when you did the left to right audio thing 😂

[@optie5]

You mentioned the drums a few times in the video. I really recommend checking out Austin Archey’s drum playthroughs. I suggest Cursed to Die and Into the Earth.

[@pbgnarf]

waited for you to react to Will. Thx a lot!

[@Thisisausername556]

Is the Will Ramos -> Sleep Tokan pipeline about to happen to Peter as well?? Hahaha great reaction If you want to hear Will’s singing voice, either of his Sleep Token covers are great. He stays true to the originals, with some added Will flair lol. Also, Sleep Token is another band that has crazy transitions section to section sometimes. They’re well known for being whatever genre they want to be and it’s always fun seeing people react to them for the first time. The Summoning and Take Me Back To Eden seem to be a lot of people’s starting points. If you like soulful vocals, you could do something like Bloodsport (from the room below) which is just Vessel (the singer) and piano, or maybe The Apparition or Rain which are two of my favorites right now. Lots to choose from but The Summoning and TMBTE are good introductions to their sound and Bloodsport is great for hearing the emotion he can get out of his voice. Rain is just a fun song to try to sing along to for me, with some vocal range in it.

[@nickiy_fit]

Charismatic voice put camera in his throat. He is a vocal beast

[@Valath]

you can see Will's technical prowess in his one takes and would love to see you react to this song on the one take!!

[@thelazydeathgod]

I love these videos. There's always something that I've never noticed before and it makes for a really cool experience

[@TigredelMar]

Those Adam's solos are the most awesome solo's i've ever heard!

[@VivK-Real]

Will ❤ Saw them live last summer, they're great live too. 1 checked out from bucket list 😂 Tell me, have you seen a video where Elisabeth (Charismatic Voice) puts a camera in Will's throat and he does all his "sounds"? And if you're interested in different growls/growlers, you should check out Tomi Joutsen (Amorphis). There is a voice I would happily wake up to 😊 "The Bee" is nice or "Dark Waters". 2-in-1 would be "Amongst Stars" (with Anneke van Giersbergen)

[@yourfather8865]

I hope Will sees this video because we know he's hyped about Opera and I bet he'd love to do a video with Peter !

[@SynFull6988]

This was amazing! Automatic subscribe. Please do more.

[@PeterBarber]

Welcome!

[@SynFull6988]

Will Ramos did a cover of chokehold from sleep token. I would pay to see a reaction to that.

[@Justin.P]

Ive never heard a better explination of the sounds, you made it second nature for me to understand.

[@josephperkins-z7n]

THIS FILLED ME WITH PURE CONCENTRATED JOY! I loved your analysis of his voice and how you'd just every now and then go, "Will is a beast...., but check the drums" *machine gun sounds* *peter stank face* "anyway...."

[@Eileen_in_Vegas]

Wow. Definitely not something I'll listen to again but I loved the breakdown of how the vocals are accomplished! Awesome job, as always!

[@deed5811]

Will's one take Lorna Shore videos on his channel. Also his one take Sleep Token covers for some clean singing by Will.

[@Spiderlanky]

You explaining focused vs panno vocal tracks at the end there had me listening to the whole song again in a different way. Thank you.

[@itsmegs98]

Damn! I knew Will could do some freaky stuff but wow, that was amazing😲 Thanks for the analysis, Peter✨🎶

[@whitney4244]

Omg I'm so glad you see that similarity between kpop and metal! My 2 fav genres lol most people think they couldn't be more opposite but ive always thought they had similarities with the like organized chaos and huge sound switches and stuff.

[@acbmoto7514]

He is the greatest vocalist to ever grace this earth. I don’t think there’s anyone that can top him or ever will.

[@megaman7799]

Funny thing about your comment toward the end about deathcore vocalists being picked up by producers for horror movie sound effects, Dickie Allen from Infant Annihilator said that he was originally training to be a monster/creature voice actor before he became a deathcore vocalist.

[@haloedge2829]

I don’t know which is better, this analysis or learning that Will is casually going to Opera shows 😅. His cleans absolutely took me when I first heard Hypnosis. I believe that came out shortly after this beast of a song, and I couldn't process the fact that they were the same person.

[@stevekozlowski5963]

You still need to do a Slaughter to Prevail live performance, like Bonebreaker live in Moscow, or his one take performance of Viking

[@jenniferchoate5600]

This song was my introduction to the Death Metal scene, and I was definitely expecting you to be very shocked when you started listening to this 😆. It's not an easy song to listen to because we can't hear the lyrics very well, and there's a LOT going on instrumentally, but I think that's what is making Lorna Shore stand out among the other death metal bands. Elizabeth and Will had said that he uses his false vocal cords to create the sounds that he uses while singing, and that he does it healthily with very little formal training (I think?? It's been a while since I've seen those videos), is a very rare talent among singers who use harsh vocal techniques. Thanks for taking the time to create and post this video Peter!! Greatly appreciate it!

[@Bellerophon003]

Absolutely listen to his one take of this song to really get his harsh ranges. It is bonkers.

[@fiveeightdrumstudio3499]

So I’m sure people have mentioned but there is also a one take playthrough which is much rawer, amazing! Then he also does a full analysis of the one take playthrough. I’m sure you’d love all of that!

[@Panda_Biscuits]

My absolute favorite part of watching reactions to this song is watching the facial expressions to the pig noises. In addition to horror movies, I think harsh vocalists would also be amazing at video game vocals.

[@JayKughan]

I like how you panned the sound from left to right as you were explaining it. Nice one.. 🙂

[@jakeziegler-h9x]

@7:27 omg that face is the epitome of first ramos reaction ahahhaha. love the videos peter

[@jandynmarkham317]

When I was first getting into metal, i started with the ole death metal, and when i could understand cannibal corpse, everything became easier to understand. That said, I love Will's vocals because when you're a bit familiar, you can understand everything. Same with Tatiana with Jinjer. They both really focus on enunciation especially in their growls so that their lyrics are heard and understood. Love your reaction!

[@Memes-XD]

i saw the name "Barber" and i was like, wait their old singer was barber, but was it Peter? no, it was Tom :D

[@mjharding1984]

This is one of my favorite kinds of content. Talented people enjoying other talented people. I appreciate that you dont dismiss it as just noise and screaming.

[@PeterBarber]

I would never!

[@qamarally7363]

Brilliant editing on that left ear right ear part 👏 👌

[@Mass-produced]

Will and Alex are amazing. There's a lot of talent in the metal genre, both men and women.

[@Veritas_est_Veritas]

You mentioned percussion. Lorna Shore's drummer, Austin Archey, also has one take playthroughs. He looks like he is in a place of perfect Zen, while destroying with technical perfection.

[@dangacore]

You have to check out Will's one take vocal of this. He is a beast.

[@nolimitrize7576]

Watch his “Into The Earth” vocal play through. Absolutely insane!

[@MegaLaban12345]

Will seems like an absolute sweetheart to top it all off. Absolutely monstrous vocals though haha. I would personally recommend Sun/eater for the next reaction! There are some ridicoulously high vocals in that one, aswell as some other vocal styles. Super enjoyable reaction and breakdown. Take care, friend!

[@whirlwindsky]

THANK YOU for drawing that comparison to Deathcore and Kpop. I have been listening to both genres a LOT for over a decade, and I could never figure out what it was about the two genres that I liked so much. I chalked it up to both having "hard to understand lyrics" because that brings a lot of texture to the ears that you dont really get from any other genres. However as time went on and both got easier for me to understand as I learned/ got familiar with them, but there was still what felt like magic that was never lost to me. Once you said that I felt like I finally understood why my love for both was so strong and unmatched by other genres (which I do enjoy other music, but they are easily my top two) and now I can actually explain to other people what it is.

[@Weather_Nerd]

Yeah like the other comments, his one take versions are a MUST! Would love to see your reactions this was great

[@Chris-p4i8g]

When you listen to metal for years it eventually becomes clear as to what they're saying and bands are like brands of metal, you find your favorite and get invested in that band. So you end up learning the lyrics through the internet and sometimes the lyrics come with the album.

[@yungalch8987]

Woahhh that was cool how you played the audio in the left and right ear when you were explaining it haha

[@retrorevival1]

28:00 the only parallel with Hollywood are voice actors like Dee Bradley Baker who do A LOT of animal/creature/monster work for animation and video games. Worth checking out for sure because the talent is just as crazy. You've probably seen about 20 things Dee Bradley Baker has done voice work on without knowing it.

[@LeopoldMcKinney]

wasn't expecting a dee bradley baker mention on this side of youtube! I mainly know him from clone wars and tbb so I knew he has a pretty versatile voice (being able to voice all of the bad batch except omega) but I didn't know he does animal and monster sounds too, that's pretty cool

[@xebs4527]

Will has a One Take Vocal cover of this song which is personally my favourite version.

[@jesselewis5699]

I love music.

[@JanTJaeckx]

Now you need to check out Dickie from Infant Annihilator. He's Will's biggest example, the 'snarl' in the end is actually a shoutout/reference to Dickie he invented it.

[@jacemicah1491]

The vocals in Suneater are even more incredible than Into the Hellfire, if you're looking for another Lorna Shore song to dig into I'd recommend that. You get used to harsh vocals, definitely, and Will's enunciation is actually really well thought out and clear. Not gonna lie though I definitely check lyrics the first couple times I listen to a song, and I can't focus on lyrics while also paying attention to the other instruments until I get used to a song - so I'll listen for vocals on one playthrough, then guitars, then drums, etc

[@KeithEndre]

Time to check out Phil Bozeman in Whitechapel. He has a very warm baritone clean voice and powerful harsh vocals yet easier to hear the lyrics. "Without Us" is probably a good song to get the contrast between the two types

[@Cthulhu92]

When I listen to deathcore, I usually just listen to it and fall in love with the different types of vocals, and breakdowns of the song. Eventually I look up the lyrics to the song so that I can fall more in love with the song. Also, deathcore summed up is basically just vocal acrobatics. Each vocalist trying to do something different or better than others, on each song. And, trying make the coolest sound vocally. Due to that alone is one of many reasons deathcore is my all time favorite music genre/metal subgenre.