My Full Review of the Biggest DOWNGRADE Diablo 4͏ Has Ever Seen

[@sweatypits8315]

-Fixed multiple issues where players were having fun -Fixed multiple issues where the sorcerer wasn't already weak enough -Fixed multiple issues where players were excited for season 1 -Reduced player base by 70% -Increase time spent with family by 30%

[@LuanS012]

theyre absolutely out of their minds

[@kevinfinnerty8414]

Uninstall and go play something else.

[@xxiroel]

Accurate lol

[@geomagg8158]

Lmao!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@gjgr7772]

@@kevinfinnerty8414check the charts

[@iRicowin]

Imagine nerfing armor and defense against x by ~30% for season 1 and still committing to not fixing resistances until season 2. Absolutely brain dead.

[@ch4osaeternum74]

Xd

[@laureyes2743]

Brain dead blizzard 💯

[@sabayonte815]

They'll buff it back in 3 months calling it "fixing"

[@hammerfist8763]

Oh, they'll fix them alright. They'll make them even weaker.

[@JT-yl9yt]

Really makes no sense the only builds that were doing all the hard stuff were basically glass cannons for the most part they weren't facetanking NM100 or anything like that they deleted mobs before they could be deleted and perma cc them.

[@mmogeek1]

I was worried I wouldn't have time to play both D4 and Baldur's gate 3. These changes are helping me tremendously.

[@id1550]

Even if you actually played season 1, I’d assume you’d be done in a month or two max, so you’d have enough time when the game comes out to play

[@steele5823]

@id1550 bg3 comes out in 2 weeks not 2 months

[@VastFuture]

Bro you will be done with the season in 3 days what you talking about a month or two months lmaooo

[@MagicalMajestic]

​@austinlewis843 If you're playing on PC the Baldurs Gate 3 release date got moved to August 3rd

[@nebucadneza1914]

Blizzard just dropped the first myth item, D4

[@Und34d_R]

Blizzard: “Our games are meant to be annoying. Not fun. If you don’t like it go play something else.” Players: “Ok. Bye.”

[@fantaclaus89]

and people still pay 100 bucks for that shit

[@dickwinters9117]

blizztard* otherwise totally agree

[@CZProductions]

Idk bro Tarkov has been saying that to it's players and we all keep coming back lol

[@lazycouch1]

You forget to add: wait why are you playing BG3 & Elden Ring that's an unfair standard!

[@busterspark4410]

For real. I’m just gonna continue playing FF16

[@The_LightArrow]

They seem to be hellbent on killing the game and it’s kind of impressive how good they are at it

[@AggronAaron]

Yup kill the game, release db 5 and people will still buy it, rinse repeat

[@Zephyran01]

Blizzard has a track record of killing all their games. Just look at OW2

[@tynao2029]

It's like when the renter or squatter trashes the place before getting evicted or forced out. Since they were being acquired by Microsoft. They trashed their game before it got handed over

[@TheSakufighter]

Right? I’ll probably just go back to D2 resurrected and level those.

[@justinthomas7313]

A dang good job

[@mixedrealityworkshop586]

Used to pay $60 for Blizzard to entertain me, now they entertain me for free.

[@trippi3t890]

😂😂😂FR

[@ralphjune9798]

@@trippi3t890 Front engine, Rear wheel drive?

[@SuperAaronx3]

@@ralphjune9798french

[@skyerstorm9430]

Oh man😂

[@marcuscaestus3583]

ay thats a good one

[@silvergeneration]

I like how they increased the time to leave dungeon by 2 seconds, but can't add 2 extra stash tabs

[@kevinprengemann7456]

They ignored almost every quality of life aspect we players asked for. Truly unbelievable.

[@dew8368]

Season 6. Good things comes to those that wait.

[@thanganbabp5570]

its because they want to sell them

[@coltonp3247]

​@@thanganbabp5570they might sell tabs, or the tabs might be in one of the battle passes, so you have to grind it out each season

[@shaxxshelmet1938]

“It’s a technical issue where we haven’t figured out how to monetize them most effectively yet”

[@mody1234]

Only Blizzard can destroy the hopes and dreams of an entire player base in one single patch. It's actually really impressive how they manage to do the things they do EVERY time.

[@AndrewH1994]

they’re just being super efficient, I think they must’ve read “How to kill your game, for dummies”

[@Kamilohbk]

They can keep getting away with that!

[@anaphora9802]

they got that Activision stat buff

[@julianhennig3579]

and yet we are always back to be disappointed again. Welcome to our little abusive family.

[@BastyTHz]

cos players cant refund anymore

[@jordansamuels44]

As a druid, the only fun build I found was a cooldown reduction build. It was the only build where I wasn't just spamming my resource generator until it was time to cast pulverize again. I got to cast my spells a lot, and that made it feel dynamic and interesting. I don't see any reason to keep playing if I can't play the game the way I enjoy it.

[@a-aronander-son5861]

Vulnerable damage was one of the only ways Sorcerer was able to deal okay damage. Perhaps not the best design, but it was required for the Sorcerer to work at all in WT4. They gave nothing in return except worse survivability.

[@Tantanii]

I love when developers make games so bad that I can return to my 5 wives and 13 children for a proper family life without feeling I will miss out.

[@BigM92]

Bout time you came back baby missed you

[@ralphjune9798]

i didn't know Amish could play D4

[@gatsuyatsu]

@@ralphjune9798🤪 very silly comment, we can do whatever we want.

[@buckbucker8020]

@@gatsuyatsu I toast my whiskey to that.

[@martincpt204]

@@gatsuyatsu except alcohol drinking, bacon tasting, women respecting and homosexuals tolerating :)

[@sabyasachidas7058]

Its funny how when it comes to buffing, they are shit scared of breaking stuff and buff by like 2%.. But when it comes to nerfing, they go crazy and nerf stuff by 70% lol

[@TheMetroidblade]

It’s kind of funny how little difference it makes to game feel as well. It almost feels like almost exactly the same

[@curlyhairedgamer]

And you cant even notice the buffs 😂 yet both my main aspects get nerfed by 30+ percent each

[@Insomnia4321]

​@curlyhairedgamer im still shitting on enemies easy mode yall just need to build better

[@curlyhairedgamer]

@@Insomnia4321 so am i. its still noticeably lower damage numbers. still one shotting shit on both my barb and necro tho

[@novemberrain8667]

No fix for the vram issue / memory leak, no additional stash space, no interesting new uniques, no additional abilities or skill tree passives, no significant changes to paragon, no interesting changes to gear or additional weapon types, no creative new affixes...instead they hit us with a homerun derby nerf bat signed by barry bonds, then jammed a knife into our bouncey castle & pissed in our sandbox. Meanwhile, sorcs got ejected into orbit like magical space trash. Incredible.

[@Raiyven79]

Correct 😂

[@blowmonkey51]

Guess its time to go back to D2R and Last Epoch infinitely better games anyway.

[@whoisfrank6051]

😂😂😂

[@Krusti159]

@@blowmonkey51 what's d2r sir? Can you tell me more about Last Epoch it looks fun

[@murtangames]

@@Krusti159 Diablo 2 Remastered.

[@THCabbie]

I thought they commented last month that they had taken the game down to it's base. They then said there would be no more nerfs and that in the future balances would be done through buffs. Then they literally nerf everything and buff nothing that people use.

[@mattt6201]

Nah. In recent interviews they made a comment how they won't just buff everything to fix issues. Nobody expected that to mean "nerf everything" though. Especially when the few things they didn't nerf were the OP things.

[@Bruno-lr9lm]

Super fun how they gave meaningful choices to end game! You now have the choice between doing events and get one cinder here and there or waste all the hell tide timer trying to kill one hell tide boss…. The choices are INSANE!!!

[@shaxxshelmet1938]

Hey, you can grind NM dungeons. OR, you could grind NM dungeons. If that’s not getting you enough XP, there’s always NM dungeons. Not getting enough loot? How about a NM dungeon?

[@TheSakufighter]

@@shaxxshelmet1938they’re banking on the dumbed down masses, not the hardcores that actually want a good game.

[@HKKvampiro]

@@shaxxshelmet1938 and get shitty XP for each NM dungeon

[@Fydron]

Blizzards marketing plan: Make game so shitty that you want to spend your money on other games made by other companies.

[@tomasenzl9593]

Overhype launch, makes you buy it (meaning mission accomplished, they got our cash). None of them seem to really care what happens afterwards because they cashed out already. Sadly its becoming a common practice

[@kalijmancarlosmatias5584]

But now they could raise the expectations for season 2 if they put buffs based on the current nerfs.

[@Kvodan]

@@tomasenzl9593 glad you connect to gaming reality we have already for decade

[@Nardage]

Remember when we played call of duty world at war and it was amazing.

[@Memnion]

Literally how PoE became so big. D3 sucked so hard they made their biggest competitor.

[@justinmarit7938]

Hahahaha the best part of the patch was the guy “testing” the new wand and teleporting to baldurs gate 3. That was pretty funny.

[@Thomas-fk6ep]

Link!?!

[@Amatsuichi]

@@Thomas-fk6ep 5:04

[@Thomas-fk6ep]

​@@Amatsuichilol ty

[@paddy8046]

Hahaha

[@kybalion5205]

😂😂

[@SuerWojtek531]

I'm 100% convinced blizzard hates their players

[@BenAbrigil]

Yep it's intentional.

[@theidiotsarewinning2868]

It seriously seems like a spiteful reaction to that KZbinr bitching about the game being too easy haha

[@GojyoSanzo]

Dont you guys have phones?

[@FezMooseLive]

​@@theidiotsarewinning2868Its not that Its to easy. Its to easy, and not fun at all 50+

[@nanonano2595]

I almost bought D4 because it genuinely looked good in the first act preview. Good thing i remembered that blizzard ruins everything they touch, so I waited for more complete reviews.

[@Hethalean]

The damage to damage bonuses were there to just water down the roll pool making it harder to get a good set of bonuses.

[@Sorain1]

I love how they nerfed the general damage on CC'd targets, and only buffed damage vs frozen.

[@alphatester3282]

The changes that they made against "boosting" will absolutely destroy group play in hardcore. If one of your party dies, you will be almost impotent to help him catch up with the rest of the group. Before you could take a day off and boost him to catch up to the rest of the party. Kind of a bummer when playing with friends....

[@PRC533]

well now it's truly group hardcore. If one of you dies, everyone has to restart. Good thing they also nerfed XP by 90% across the board.🤣

[@DrFrankenschtein]

I’ll never understand why people play hardcore, especially at a group level. Gluttons for punishment.

[@asherrfacee]

@@DrFrankenschteinit kinda turns it into a rogue-like because of the shared stash and boosting. Sharing items between hardcore character would be so much better if level requirements were tied to item level. Overall if the game was designed with hardcore mode more as a focus it would be really really fun imo.

[@alphatester3282]

@@DrFrankenschtein Fair point friend, but I could say the same. That I will never understand why people play a game where if you die there are 0 meaningful consequences. Also bear in mind that while some bugs have been fixed and the servers are more stable, we are still far from not having random lag spikes, dcs, or just plain bugs, like being unable to use abilities until you teleport back to town. We each like to play our own way, and I see no reason to be passive aggressive towards someone in the same community as you. Have a nice day !

[@TROBassGuitar]

​@@DrFrankenschteinI can see the appeal in older games I can't see the appeal now where a random server hiccup means you just lost 100 hours of play because blizzard just decided

[@revanleung192]

The Act Man must be laughing his ass off now lol

[@Blackjax137]

Were you doubting Blizzard's ability to fix innumerable issues from itemization, stash space, gems, balancing all the way to mount jank and roadblocking barriers? Good news! Not only were you right but Blizzard has excelled themselves. Some of those problems are now even worse!

[@MoistYoghurt]

Lol waiting for season 2 for fucking gem stash and more stash tabs when that can be easily coded within an hour EASILY

[@Raiyven79]

​@@MoistYoghurt😂

[@Belloc_The_Hallow]

No need to fix storage if you can't kill things after your nerfed

[@kendement071]

I think the nerfs are due to the seasons mechanic to be OP

[@vergillives9890]

@@kendement071 or to make the dlc character stand out thats what they did to crusader nerfed barbarian so people would use crusader instead

[@beerdedphantom3925]

It's kind of baffling to me that they keep making such sweeping BALANCE and ITEMIZATION changes without first FIXING RESISTANCES.

[@haxguy0]

It doesn't make any damn sense

[@eligos6]

My favorite part of the patch notes was when they said they want to scale player damage while they downscale player defense, right after they nerfed the primary damage sources, effectively negating their statement.

[@airassault74]

Congratulations on participating in the Diablo 4 extended beta! We should all get an achievement and title!

[@TheUltimateBastich]

Yeah, and dunce cap

[@loos15]

D3 all over again.

[@redshift912]

How do you all deal with real life problems if you are still crying about buying a bad game a month later ?

[@joshwall4263]

​@redshift912 they're allowed to critique a game they BOUGHT and had certain expectations for..

[@satori-in-life]

People forget but even D2 had a rough start and it took Blizzard years before they balanced the game well. I'm going to delay my judgment of D4 but at the moment it's not looking good.

[@TBird4490]

Fixed an issue where players were having too much fun. Player fun has been reduced 50% [1%-50%], but Blizzard valuing player feedback has increased by 5% [5%-100%] while not moving near a barricade.

[@BATASHALACKA]

On a Tuesday

[@The_Azure_]

While doing the limbo

[@andrewe.2464]

after asmon washes his bedsheets and pillow case

[@cailancook9720]

You can always rely on Blizzard to slowly destroy everything they create. They're just getting more efficient at it.

[@tronkles3633]

Wdym slowly? They speedran destroying D4

[@cailancook9720]

@@tronkles3633key word, "efficient"

[@MagiaBased]

D3 actually got better with time and became the best in the Genre in my opinion, but that's probably because all the Garbage Devs went from D3 to the D4 Team LMAO

[@johnP0908]

@@MagiaBased I'm starting to believe that might be actually true.

[@daycred]

blizzard really just went and looked into the eyes of the people who spent 70-100$ on their game, heard what they said and then spit in their face

[@brotherinchrist72]

I am hearing reports that people are actually charging back their $100 purchases citing unplayable game, did not deliver product as promised.

[@aussieb5402]

/spit

[@Giliver]

@@brotherinchrist72 lol they're gonna get a well deserved ban then. Guaranteed those people have well over 100 hours in the game to.

[@mrmr2488]

Dude, can you guys not afford $70? Lol

[@LeagueofLegends24]

@@mrmr2488 It's not about the money, its the message being sent.

[@theenki8387]

Imagine giving the Barbarian an ICE UNIQUE whereas the druid still has no effect on his storm-skill. In d2 it freezes enemies man.

[@famous12121]

As a Necromancer, can confirm I am basically just an Archer.

[@Junky987]

Lmao, Blizzard really cant figure out how to make a game anymore.

[@bitharne]

All the people who know what they’re doing left…all that are remaining are activists and weirdos.

[@thrasher2753]

Their old guard left. Now it's just a bunch of woke interns and cucks trying to make inspired by old blizzard.

[@gamefreak2016]

its honestly as if the devs dont play their own game as a player.

[@Drezdenez]

They aren’t making games. They make products

[@xkd495]

@@bitharne True ahahaha, theres literally no normal people left there

[@echoesofmalachor3700]

these patch notes managed to highlight how bad blizzard missed the mark on launch while at the same time demonstrating how little they learned from it

[@Nostalgiaforinfi]

Just play street fighter 6. Its good.

[@nque7655]

@@Nostalgiaforinfibased, but they’re nothing alike lol

[@transformerstuff7029]

@@Nostalgiaforinfi battlebit for me, finally a good battlefield.....only took 7 years and a different studio with a tiny budget to do it.

[@JayBigDadyCy]

Truly an impressive feat.

[@ryanfrieden4450]

Gem pouch and stash space proves blizzard isn’t capable of learning from its mistakes.

[@unused11]

I'll never cease to be amazed at the consistency of Blizzard's awful decision making.

[@FunnyDougy]

I stop being surprised when they fired Blizzard North for caring about their products, then pretended it was their fault.

[@lovablelycan]

I love the part where blizzard incentivizes you to sacrifice your minions more and then you bone stormed all over your bone storms bone storm. He really bone stormed everywhere.

[@Sins13]

@@subzero308 God bless you sir. I tried. Got to 65 doing it and the brick wall finally won. I was out cold laying on the floor for about 3 days. I respecced into bone spear and was going from 2k minion hits to 1 mil full room clears with 1 cast. I then made a sorc. Got to 77. Was much more fun but way easier to die until I got insane CD reduction. Now, I have no idea what to play for season 1 if at all. I dont like rogue and its like they are doing everything they can to make rogue the only playable class.

[@AC-hj9tv]

Minions or gtfo. I'll die on that hill 💀 ⚔ ☠

[@cripplinganimedepression9902]

He said "it's bonestormi'n time" and bonestormed all over the place

[@mrcute512]

I can sacrifice the Golem. He's not needed on Mendeln ring. The Golem got replaced by Tendril. Let's see if I could include Bonestorm on my build to take advantage of the new Shield.

[@nuke_looter5174]

I love the way they advertised and spoke about the game up to launch being so diverse in the ways you as the player will be able to play the game the way you want to play the game then every other week since launch there’s been almost nothing but nerf updates basically dictating how you actually need to play the game. Level 95 Barb, yes still not even max level before season one will begin and they just neutered by build.

[@ThatWhichObserves]

I didn't even hit the paragon board my build (that I was following a guide for) was so weak..

[@dales9028]

I was legit on the fence about buying baulders gate and starfield and now blizzard has helped me with my deicision to buy them and dive into rpg goodness.

[@kinochdotcom]

buy them both, D4 and BG3 are both fun, D4 has very lame design but its not bad

[@The_answer42]

- Excited to play after 3 days - Download patch - Log in - All my cooldowns are 3-5s longer - Log out

[@johnP0908]

I was on step 2 then I didn't even bother try logging in. It's beyond me what's in their head to think these "adjustments" are necessary. I'm wasting time on W4 trying to farm uniques anyway. might as well stay put and see what another shenanigans Blizzard will do.

[@FunnyDougy]

Good idea.

[@cosmicdispute88]

Same bro… same

[@noobinator_]

Best PoE patch ever. Period.

[@raksaKhan1337]

​@@bradjones7491how to tell a person who not watch video without telling that

[@anthonyc2072]

@@bradjones7491 Triple G was robbed against Canelo in their first fight. He was nerfed by the judges

[@incarnationx903]

Kinda stupid take lol yeah nerfs suck when they hit us with that shit but we were wayyyyy overtuned back then and they have also buffed since then and given us insane mechanics and chase uniques that trivialize any of those nerfs. And at least poe had end game that good players still finished after those nerfs. Where as blizzard nerfed a empty shell somehow making it echo HELLO for the next 25 years

[@nemesisundead83]

The speechlessness I just saw about teleport out of a dungeon increase from 3 to 5 seconds was literally priceless Diablo 4 SMH

[@magicwizrd5733]

Made us do less damage, made us die faster, made it to where we have to fight even higher levels for optimal exp, made playing anything other than nightmare dungeons pointless and less enjoyable, made every aspect of the game slower with cd nerfs and exp nerfs. The 1 build i got to try was fun while it lasted..

[@violentmankey4910]

I doubted my ability to reach lvl 100, thanks to blizzard, now im CERTAIN I'll never reach it 😃👍

[@famous12121]

Same here, I like Platinuming games, and I knew getting to lvl 100 was going to be tough, but now I know for sure it will never happen.

[@ronaldtaylor272]

SO TRUE!!!

[@dtwduuvaaall6865]

​@tpola3648 It's only easy to hit 100 if you like grinding lol I have 200 plus hours into a single character and I'm only 86.

[@JamieVideoDesign]

I think most of these nerfs "could" have been taken on the chin if they were backed up by interesting buffs to underused skills that would increase some build diversity in S1

[@dew8368]

Can't build much when most skills are weak and only 5 skill slots available. Don't count the basic.

[@poeticsilence047]

​@dew8368 💯 how I feel most of the skills and modifiers are garbage. If you think of a good rotation, cannot do it due to the 5 slots.

[@MrGixxerred]

You have to wait til season 6 for that.

[@d2pgoon86]

You're telling me a 11% dmg increase dmg to Boulder 🪨 doesn't make it viable now? /s

[@kylesawkon4074]

@@poeticsilence047there’s only like 2 usable builds now for each character for endgame

[@Pepperkaas6]

We at Blizzard saw that 95% of humans were using their feet so we decided to make Feet less effective for moving around to encourage humans to find different ways to move around the world. Walk speed - 50% Running speed - 75%

[@MrGodPowered]

literally sums up the whole patch. Thank you.

[@mikeydubs_tv]

I really loved D4 from the opening chapter but I hit a wall at level 30. I’m using the same 4 abilities, killing the same mobs running slow as hell across the other side of the map to do another story quest where I just kill some mobs. Got pretty boring fast.

[@Shibu_PL]

Same. I had to force myself to beat the campaign, the core gameplay was so repetitive. I still have much more fun with D2. I feel like a moron for buying D4.

[@ryanfrieden4450]

Yup that’s the blizzard gameplay. It doesn’t get better. Only more tedious. “Play your way” was a corporate marketing lie.

[@RageXca]

@@Shibu_PL reached 100 thinking it would get any better... never regretted so much buying a 150$ CAD game its garbage.

[@shadf7902]

​@@ryanfrieden4450play your way lie was why I dropped 74$. Boy was I pissed when my way hit a brick wall.of no damage or survivability at level 24!

[@CorporateSycophant]

I think that Diablo was elegant in its simplicity and all the conditional damage just makes it too complicated.

[@rotj4587]

I dunno man, maybe I'm just not meant to play these games anymore but when you started adding more things than the tri-fecta (crit chance, crit damage and damage) my head starts to hurt looking at all the flowcharts necessary to "play". Luckily there's Halls of Torment, which costs less than a cup of coffee.

[@CorporateSycophant]

@rotj4587 I've kind of got the same mentality. I prefer games that are simple to play, but have a high degree of difficulty. I think that's why I like NES games so much.

[@rotj4587]

@@CorporateSycophant I can get behind that. Sometimes, less is more.

[@CorporateSycophant]

@rotj4587 That's the essence of art in my opinion. We have a tendency, as humans, when making art, to try to cram all the stuff we've learned and all the skills we've honed into a piece. But look at Bob Ross - he simplified his art to the point where he could make a great painting in 30 minutes. If you take a look at Michelin, they prefer clean dishes with components that accent each other and highlight their flavor and uniqueness. Simplicity is the ultimate art form.

[@TammoHP]

Imagine writing in the first paragraph, that you want people to play other builds then those based around the coreability. Then imagine nerfing the cooldown reduction making other abilities impossible to build around.

[@jessiewhite443]

Imagine making "core" abilities at all instead of just letting us play the game as we want

[@selendile030]

A build built around a non-Core skill would be the nichest of niche builds anyway. No rogue uses Dash or Shadowstep for the massive damage 🙄. Has blizzard even played their game?

[@sirkelendor5429]

​@@selendile030what game dev does play their games anymore?

[@Giliver]

@@sirkelendor5429 I mean personally I wouldn't wanna play the game I'm developing until it releases. You hire people (QA) for that task.(or let's players handle it for free lol)

[@ELELME]

I am fine with making the enemy 10 times slower to kill, but the loot drop should be at least 20 times better.

[@FreakazoidRobots]

And the enemies should be a hundred times more interesting to fight against. The Diablo 4 team seems to think that slower automatically means more tactical. No, I'm just doing the same thing for longer.

[@bricecauchon49]

Enemies already are giant meat shield. Giving them even more health won't make the game harder it will just make it more boring and slow

[@schlurosaurusrex2827]

Helltide feels like going to work now for half the reward. Fells bad man.

[@fitbjj]

Disagree. We don't need more loot drops. Especially since I spend so much time having to go through and look at each item.. I already go through a lot of times and not even look at the loot and just sell it because it takes up so much time out of playing.

[@Xceedch667]

we don't need more loot, they just need fuck*ng delete the trash stat so we can get good loot

[@HeadShotKilla10]

So they made it harder to survive, harder to kill monsters, monsters are stronger and even when you do survive and kill them, I get less XP….. Fabulous

[@thetruestar6348]

Wait don’t forget the 100% HP increase per player in group

[@Alexandria1]

I'd already fallen of d4 and a friend asked if I was com8ng back for season 1 with him. I told him with these changes he's gonna have to pay me 😂

[@Northex23]

My main issue with the bone storm thing isn't even that its a non-minion build, but that its basically just more of the same. Bone build was already king by a mile.

[@ThePolarpop]

Quick thing to note..idk why people seem to think bone storms a non minion thing..sadly its even better on minions too lol u can keep it up basically permanently you just like decrepify things and walk into them w ur minions

[@will160176]

Asmongold nailed it. They could of slowed us down by making enemies more difficult with more mechanics to master or solve. Not by making us weaker and our cds longer

[@raazazuul32]

That would require imagination. These devs are the most unimaginative group from what I've seen.

[@will160176]

@raazazuul32 I know you guys all feel the pain as much as I do as someone that's been with blizzard games and once praised them over 2 decades long and now having to say things like that

[@muzikmuzik3693]

Tht would take effort something blizzard has no plans of ever putting in

[@muzikmuzik3693]

​@@bormz7191wow ur comment wasn't there for me untill I posted mine nd holy shit glad some 1 else sees what I see

[@onaucc9899]

*could have

[@jon2713]

'Fixed an issue where D4 players had any hopes for the future of D4'

[@athmil8302]

I also hate vulnerability as a mechanic but the problem isn't solved by nerfing it here. It's just fundamentally a terrible design. Even after the nerf vuln will still be just as required as before just with less damage. Nothing changes at all with builds Also it completely fucks over minion necro. Vuln was the only real effective way of getting them to deal even passable damage since they inherit 100% of vuln damage instead of the 30% of most other stats like crit damage.

[@kingretroz3347]

As a sorc player, we've been booted to the shadow realm. Lower damage and longer CDs literally kill our builds. We already use like 3 defensive skills just to stay alive. And now we take even MORE damage... smh

[@wodensthrone5215]

Minion Necro got buffed, run razorplate with thorns on Necro, it does really good, I've been doing tier 38 nightmare dungeons and higher.

[@kingretroz3347]

@101RadioheadCovers spaced it. So even worse. Really not sure what class I'm going to play season 1 but honestly don't think it'll matter. I won't have fun regardless and will drop it in the first couple weeks. Hope to be proven wrong

[@mitchgalbreth5531]

I’m confused why they didn’t address resource regeneration. Running out of your resource and having to use builder attacks to get it back holds so much of the fun back.

[@dew8368]

That would take away from having a basic. They want you to run a basic for the complex 5 skill slots build plus a basic.

[@damiengrief]

As as sorc main, I'm just done. I was *already* struggling to keep up with my friends in terms of damage and now it's just impossible *plus* my survivability has gone down the drain.

[@Shane2020xxx]

“All glass, no cannon” -Wudi

[@VengefulMaverick]

Worst class ever in an arpg.

[@edgezero1557]

I had fun on release, and was giving the devs a huge benefit of the doubt with their higher than normal response to player feedback compared to other blizz games. Not so much anymore.

[@Haddarus]

By now watching Asmon's videos slamming D4 its more fun than playing the game itself

[@heyhoojoe]

not slamming Asmongold, here, but it's not like it's a high bar to take

[@teddiedanh]

I love how Blizzard just released one of if not the worst gaming patch in their history right after the drama with Baldur's Gate 3

[@PointlesslyNecessaryConvos]

That’s part of the patch -increased Baldurs Gate 3 install base by 40%

[@ianashmore9910]

Hey you can't hold us to the high standards set by a company a fraction of our size!

[@armagaiden8992]

what drama with baldur's gate 3 ?

[@butterdubs2267]

@@armagaiden8992 some dev's are salty about its large scope.

[@thegamersden4824]

what drama?

[@Zed012]

I don’t know about anyone else, but I personally can’t wait for Season 1 and the addition of a ton more quests asking me to light lamps and find enemy drops on opposite sides of the map. Season 2 will be “Season of the Tax” where they’ll introduce the receipts currency that you can turn in for W-4s and 1098s, which you can then take to Greed’s realm and get a Tax Return chest based on your tax bracket and the amount of gold you’ve collected for the week based on its source (questing, chests, mob loot, etc.). If you get the count wrong or you try to cheat the chest, your char gets put in jail for the rest of the season.

[@garryw1974]

I had a Razerplate with 12100 thorns on it before the patch and now after the patch it has around 10100 Why would they do that,and there was no mention on nerfing the razerplate in the patch notes.

[@tomwillems81]

Can nerf the entire game before season 1, but its to hard to put a gems in a separate inventory space ....

[@mattt6201]

Or teleport to the inside of a nightmare dungeon after sigil pop.

[@MrTwenty6point2]

“Too” hard….T O O

[@siebs888]

Actually uninstalled today, sadge man. As if my Sorcerer wasn't already 6 feet under before the patch.

[@th3orist]

So they basically addressed all areas of the game that were at least "ok" and gave the players some fun and made them worse and the areas that were bad to begin with they did not even touch. Alright then. Good job.

[@pdub3433]

I don't know about you but these buffs are MASSIVE. I now have 100% more free time.

[@phinks4444]

Buffed my halls of torment playing time by 95%

[@AwkwardGod]

Same!

[@Three60Mafia]

i guess blizzard fixed stash space issue by retroactively makign all the gear in my stash bad so i can sell it, and boom, no space isssue

[@MichaelS5400]

Asmingolds monotone optimism and explanation of the patch was hilarious 😂

[@GrumpyFelo]

And 100% on target

[@Christophersaurus]

It’s mostly sarcasm

[@Chromeskull90]

Blizzard had one job Nerf a little the top meta builds abusing Lilith and buff the other builds to give player more options They did none. Broken builds can STILL kill Lilith with ease, shred/tornado, poison rogue and bone spear necro. And everything else sucks even more

[@Ti_Fire]

I’m SO hype for season 1. Can’t wait to try my Remnant and BG3 builds

[@mattbrumback9546]

I was worried about not having time to grind Diablo and remnant but now I’ll have plenty of time for remnant

[@digduck9463]

Now we are talking.

[@plain_simple_garak]

I decided to skip D4 entirely, in order to have time to finally play Divinity Original Sin 2 for the first time before BG3 comes out. Looks like it was the right decision, DOS2 has been an incredible experience

[@BlackJustice2637]

Fantastic choice. I've had so much fun with that game. Might go back for a bit before starting BG3

[@Niels741]

You don't have time to play the games but you have time to watch hours of long videos about their patches?

[@BlackJustice2637]

@@Niels741 who says he wasn't listening while doing something else?

[@nova_supreme8390]

They really amped up the crossplay and now instead of playing across platforms you can play across different game franchises. Truly one of the games of all time.

[@swolecat23]

😂😂😂

[@BobHortonUnfiltered]

Technically they fixed storage space since the drops are even worse now and you can't farm events on Helltides for the mystery chests, so there's no reason to keep most of the gear you get. So they did listen to our feedback.

[@SgtBuck01]

They took the Destiny 2 approach

[@heyhoojoe]

Only true wrinkly-brains understand

[@naiiin6949]

"Modern problems require modern solutions"

[@Heretus]

D4 among all the other issues has too many dmg modifiers , Normal hit , critical, lucky hit , critical lucky hit , vulnerable damage , overpower damage , close damage , distant damage... You need a PhD in mathematics to understand the Dmg formulae Please do try and and review Last epoch :)

[@wingedhussar1453]

I didn't even understand how the barbarian can have 4 weapons at same time yet have tldiffrent attack for smash slash etc. I don't get it how all 4 weapons work together

[@thrasher2753]

Agreed. Too many ridiculous modifiers

[@Meybi]

Dude, I dare you to put 100 hours into path of exile.

[@ltsmithneko]

​@@MeybiTbf PoE's modifiers don't have absurd conditionals n' the ones that do are pretty reasonable ^-^

[@matkosmat8890]

The math isn't that difficult. It's the arbitrary rules that don't make any sense, so you can't follow the "logic". Last Epoch - the only game I beat entirely without a single alt-tab to check something online. Anything I needed to know to progress my char, the game taught it to me. And gave me the tools to work for my goals. A shining example of how it can be done with X times less money.

[@droneblake8968]

For a bit there at the release I was thinking I was screwing up by not playing; now I’m convinced I made the right decision. I’ll just wait for BG3

[@battlecruiserna]

looks like they're getting ready to introduce solutions to the cash shop for the problems they're creating

[@davidmorgan3359]

These fixes have come about by a developer looking at a spreadsheet only and not so much listening to players. They see abilities that are not being used so buff them and can't help themselves nerfing abilities that are very powerful and popular. Why not just buff other abilities to match popular ones unless they consider them broken. Making leveling and grind longer so players stay longer in game, so they can sell you stuff, like season and battle pass.

[@hey_its_travis]

They must have borrowed the team from Bungie that claims to work on destiny

[@liamjohnson8000]

Developers have an extremely serious issue with creativity lately.

[@geert574]

And an issue with brokeness in the near future, Deliveroo applications will boom 😂

[@mhjmstultiens]

Well, they're getting more creative in shaking you down for more money. So there's that.

[@merlinwarage]

Blame the management. Devs are only do their tasks.

[@liamjohnson8000]

@@merlinwarage true, I tend to lump them together when I rage

[@CreationsVibration]

**25% increase to physical damage after dodging into a jump during a slide on Tuesday while carrying element charges in a snowstorm **

[@ThisIsAnte]

You forgot that it's only a chance on a lucky hit

[@italianspiderman5012]

@@ThisIsAntegod damn, “lucky hit” will never cease to make me chuckle.

[@manuelhernandez2017]

​@@italianspiderman5012you have a chance of a chance up to 5% to chuckle for 1.5 seconds

[@Red-zt1xj]

And dropped to 15% next patch

[@asum7786]

My build was smoothly playable with CDR on Helmet and Offhand. They nerfed it because it was too mandatory of a stat. Now it's mandatory for me to have on the Amulet as well for my build. Wow, great fix. You did it.

[@MrNova383]

All these fixes, and there are still side quests that CANNOT be done until they are fixed. That's crazy!

[@hoganlex1]

who gives a crap about side quests (or a lot of the other shit) when resists still don't work, and a ton of other actual game breaking bugs?

[@kingbyouchoob2488]

Done with D4 100%. Probably THE worst update to any major game ever. Def top 5 for sure.

[@TheSakurambou]

Most changes seems to be a classic case of treating the symptoms instead of the disease.

[@armorvil]

they couldn't change too much because Season 1 was created during development and they were afraid making deep changes would have big consequences on it. Personally I'm waiting for loot 2.0, affixes 2.0, Skill Trees 2.0, Paragon Boards 2.0, Dungeons 2.0, ... Diablo 4.5 in other words. They will have to hustle in the next 3 months because I'm sure the higher ups aren't too pleased with them.

[@GregorySnipe]

​@@armorvilAwesome to buy a game and then wait 6 months until it's actually fun to play.

[@gregorh.3919]

@@GregorySnipe It's with almost all the games like that.

[@Redlight77]

It’s hard to commit alot of my time to a game that constantly changes it’s rules.

[@MRkriegs]

Every modern internet game has big balance patches.

[@italianspiderman5012]

@@MRkriegsexactly.

[@kanon1118]

Its ok to change rules. If the rules are fun

[@nemnless]

"Now we are at the rock bottom, we can start fixing the game little by little, every 4 months." "omg you're right! then we don't have to work that hard anymore!"

[@Krelion1]

Well the 3 main complaints I saw, were that leveling was super slow, that there was nothing to do at 100 and that sorcerer was too weak. I am so happy they fixed that

[@spectralpencil]

I love how they made mystery helltide chest unlock at 250 with a decrease on cinder drop rate and mystery chest still drops trash 😂

[@DarkConjurer34]

Literally watched a guy post a video post patch. Got 3 sacred legendaries from a mystery chest on w4. Like how sad

[@vadicus-tcp]

Takes a much longer time to gather 250 cinders. Took me over 30 minutes. Fml.

[@fiftypercentgrey]

@@vadicus-tcp plus, bigger chance to accidentally die and lose cinders

[@transformerstuff7029]

@@vadicus-tcp yea no more logging in and seeing 30 min of helltide and deciding to run one. Now I'll just go 'hehhhhh better not risk that'

[@christophermccormick5505]

​@@DarkConjurer34ive gotten 1 legendary from a mysterious chest before

[@sladewilson9741]

They got your $90 bucks. Now just time to milk the suckers.

[@Thoray]

Guess who never gave them the money in the first place

[@Shadowlet]

​@STONEHEAD6965you just put one in?

[@xiiAtoMicZ84]

As a necro player, I understand the nerf to bone spear, yet for some reason I still never beat Uber Lilith. I tried for hours couldn't beat her. Grinded probably 50+ tier 55+ NMD and never got the great rolls for equipment, only semi acceptable loot. Tried Lilith again and still got my ass beat. Yet here they are making not only Uber Lilith harder but the entire game harder. Like honestly how many people beat Uber Lilith? From everything I seen/read it was only content creators that have the time to grind for the perfect loot. Why can't we make it a bit easier for those of us that got to level 100 but didn't have perfect loot?

[@libertyprime9307]

They want certain things to be different degrees of unachievable. In their mind, people looking for Uber Uniques are super hyped, logging in every day, chasing that carrot on a stick. But in reality, people either don't know or don't care.

[@MorgoSargas]

It wouldn’t be an achievement if anyone could do it.

[@FunnyDougy]

Have you tried turning the game off then leaving it off again?

[@EliKRistberg]

I'm 100% convinced that Blizzard hates their players.

[@SpiderpigThe]

These companies never listen to their players but if someone says anything about lgbtq, they will take action faster then you can blink.

[@gro967]

People have to stack CDR because the cooldowns are too long. So instead of reducing cooldowns, they remove CDR 🙈

[@Hi11Zones]

Blizzard has become a joke

[@Kidcrowley]

They have been a joke for a while, like…years

[@PaddyRoon7]

They've been a joke for over a decade now. It just keeps getting funnier with time.

[@Zhyriaa]

They were legends, but for how long ? I feel like at some point they've been jokes for longer than the duration they were legends

[@csabaszombati]

@@Zhyriaa They were legends until cataclysm came out. So like for 6 years.

[@BastoGhost]

No they are comedians. People who still buy their games are the joke.

[@capnmoby9295]

Vulnerability reminds me of slagging in BL2, and the game compensated by making the TVHM and UVHM to be ultra fucking buffed health, and the end game basically now revolves around Slagging. i got the same feeling with vulnerability especially as a rogue, it's basically the peanut butter for you peanut butter & Jelly sandwich

[@germanrud9904]

Yeah immediately thought of slag. These mechanics SUCK because they become mendatory

[@OCtheG]

I never felt it was necessary in TVHM, but in UVHM yeah if they’re not slagged you’re not doing damage. Right on the money.

[@lordskkaya4744]

thats how i explained the vulnerability mechanic to my friend and he immediately knew it was bad

[@boricudda7240]

Monster Hunter World Iceborne had a similar issue with clutch claw being able to weaken certain parts. Weakening mechanics are neat but when they feel mandatory to actually do decent dps it just becomes a chore. I'm starting to hate them when I see them in other games.

[@Waxxin]

I was gonna say the exact same thing

[@TheHowieable]

I played Necro minion build when D4 launched, I tried everything to make it work and achive some sort of viable build I could use in NMD's above 25, but nah. Gave up on D4 3-4 weeks ago and was hoping S1 would change something.. Decided to touch grass instead! its nice.

[@Dustinisnotavailable]

Sizeable nerf to all players who were heavily invested, HUGE nerf to all casuals. Get ready to see a bunch of Rogues/Necros and a handful of Druids.

[@hairy5638]

This is a fair comment. Huge nerf for casuals.. I feel like the nerf was needed though Felt so OP this far.

[@rocco24554]

The one thing that made sorc usable was vulnerability. There was one build and that one build used vulnerability as it’s main thing. It’s never been more over.

[@SilverSnark]

Yep. Really disappointed what they have done with sorc. It's a freakin' sorcerer, how do you mess it up.

[@FezMooseLive]

​@@SilverSnarkMy main was druid until story was finished. I now have a sorc and necro. I've never felt so sad, the flame skills should be so good. I want to be the king/queen of flames that burn hotter then the pits of hell. I feel like they are scared of making us strong.

[@dylan8894]

Definitely a Blizzard quality patch

[@echoesofmalachor3700]

yup, left the meta pretty much the same just made it feel worse across the board

[@bvblacksmith]

At about 6:30 you touch on an important problem: D4 has too many conditional variables. Vanilla WoW was good in that respect: it was complex enough, but the stats were mostly unconditional relative to each other. You could write a spreadsheet and theorycraft very accurately how different items and skills would affect your overall dps. It was fun. With D4, such a spreadsheet would be insanely complex, if not impossible because there are so many conditions and rngs.

[@Xx_HD_xX]

"Go play something else."- a Blizzard Dev "I got fired the next day." - same Blizzard dev but in the good timeline

[@iou68later]

Which streamer can coordinate a mass unistall event like at midnight to send blizzard a big msg