My Hero Academia Does Nothing New, and That's Okay! | Beyond The Bot

[@BeyondTheBot]

Ayo, we have more degenerate content on Curt and Adrian's NEW anime channel, 3RD IMPACT. kzbin.info Who's all caught up on MHA season 5? Would you like to see more My Hero Academia content? Let us know!

[@Dartania]

Does this video have spoiler for those of us who aren’t?

[@KhaiNYC]

Absolutely, love these vids from you guys

[@daynishcosplay]

PLEASE do an episode about Yuri/GL! People always talk about Yaoi/BL but they always forget about the women!! There are some AMAZING Yuri mangas and anime, but theyre always looked over bc Yaoi is more popular.

[@muireannmc1056]

@@Dartania yes in around 11:24 If avoid it

[@BluuJourney]

Not me...but out of the bluu R y'all up on Ninja scroll, Read or Die & Spriggan? I don't think I've ever seen y'all review any of these. #Artisbluu

[@21Raph___A]

As someone who used to be obsessed with MHA(don't worry, I wasn't one of _those_ fans), I agree. It's not the second coming of Christ, it's just another good show most of us can enjoy.

[@elaykitsu7602]

Yep I loved my hero and I always got made fun of for liking and I never understood why until I met the fanbase and I understood a lot but I don’t mine every anime has its fanbase and we can’t judge them for it, if the anime is good then it’s good

[@TheNamesDitto]

Yep

[@gundampeacekeeper]

There is so much hate for someone the does the basics really well. Demon Slayer,My hero, and JJK as concepts weren’t anything better than other anime but they do most of everything at a above average level so it’s popular. I get tired of people hating on the shows for not being completely revolutionary concepts.

[@barnowl2655]

In my opinion, Jujutsu Kaisen tries new strategies, along with old ones. MHA takes cliches and makes them work in a fun and creative way. I can't say anything for Demon Slayer, considering I don't like it, but that's okay.

[@BeyondTheBot]

And that's fine. It's okay not to be revolutionary. -Adrian

[@calipupcorn3886]

Sometimes we dont need something new. As long as it’s executed well then it’s fine. That’s what captivates people.

[@barnowl2655]

@@calipupcorn3886 Preaching to the quire.

[@gillian2325]

"he cried, he begged, he cleaned. yea, that's like a normal wife" uhh no, that... that's not a normal relationship

[@Joo._.Bee1]

Sounds pretty normal to me

[@namename-ph7bg]

If that isn't normal to you then most relationships aren't normal

[@SpaceGoat3126]

Not gonna lie I hear about these relationships so much that it seems normal at this point.

[@OmegaQuinn]

It sounds fairly normal for these days

[@antmerf3333]

Yeah I agree, it doesn’t do anything new, but how the execution is and the characters and how they grow is what makes me love it so much 😁

[@barnowl2655]

It's cliche in all the right ways.

[@kevinmurphy4647]

That's one of the reasons I like it. The twists and spins that are done to the character arch types and even the arcs themselves, one of my all time favorite ones is that midoriya doesn't win the tournament arc or even makes it to final 4, yes there are some where the protagonist doesn't win but most of the time it is because of the next section of the arc or something else and I just like how it was handled. Not to mention how many manga series will have an arc that focuses on the antagonists of the story.

[@mr.sandman7339]

I think one of MHA's strong points is character development for sure. The pacing is slow compared to a lot of other shows but it feels realistic and it works without just adding a bunch of filler. I also love how the powers are handled so that they all have some kind of limitation, usually something that's a logical extension of that power (i.e. Mirio falling through the floor vs Shadowcat who can walk normally while intangible). You can have superpowers, but they will have significant consequences. It's rewarding to see how they get creative to overcome the limitations.

[@av.angelion8593]

something doesn’t have to be revolutionary to be good and it doesn’t have to be the best for people to be able to like it. the execution is well done and the characters are relatable and enjoyable. i love a good shounen and mha is just that.

[@CaptainCJ97]

Facts

[@meldrickedwards1892]

Personally I half of the characters are kinda forgettable. But I enjoyed the overall story of MHA.

[@wolfman6696]

"Dark power he tries to repress" Izuku proceeds to use the "dark power" literally 10 seconds later lmao, he almost instantly started training it. The OFA/Nine-Tails comparison isn't really 1 for 1, Nine-Tails is closer to Ichigo's Hollow Ichigo or Itadori with Sukuna, all three of them have this seemingly evil force sealed inside of them that grants them outstanding power, often in dire situations. OFA instead is always treated as a positive thing with outstanding power but also vests massive responsibility in the wielder whether they like it or not. It's more like a reference to the Spiderman thing "with great power comes great responsibility".

[@meldrickedwards1892]

Good point.

[@patosostenido7141]

"The tournament has no consequences" and literally that day Deku saved Enji from a second Dabi.

[@xezz8866]

That wasn't the point of it guy

[@armorbearer9702]

I agree. Todoroki became Deku's friend after this arc which had a huge impact on the story.

[@jpmedina8328]

I dont think shoto would become another dabi

[@marocat4749]

And did push urakaras developement . And its nice seeing deku improvise despite at that point not being able to do that much for longer.

[@Kaimax61]

@@jpmedina8328 He would've with all the abuse still unanswered and Shoto burying his emotions inside. Remember Toya became insane due to neglect after Shoto was born.

[@jeff6440]

that sky-high reference is great 😂😂😂

[@paulinahorton8038]

I never really thought of Deku as the green Naruto and I still don’t for the most part…honestly if there’s anything that they have in common it would be their ability to use talk no jutsu and their journey to become the the greatest hero/hokage. I think any other similarities are from some of the character dynamics and settings.

[@raec5426]

Bakugo acts more like a typical shonen protag with his confidence more than Deku. lol

[@jajagaming3602]

Naruto always seemed a like a hotheaded, smart mouth yet a lonely kid who wanted to prove himself to everyone who looked down on him. He wanted to feel excepted which us why he wanted to become hokage but that later changed into a person who grew into more of a selfless person and became hokage to stop war and conflict. Deku always seemed like a character who bears the world on his shoulders. Basically a guy with a white knight complex because of his lack of self worth which is why he was always so sacrifical. Doesn't help that he always compares himself All Might and copies his flawed ideology on a symbol.

[@raec5426]

How many battle shonen do a *villain focused arc* dedicated to villain vs villain conflict without the protagonists a part of it? A Japanese CEO from Cyberconnect2 even said the MVA arc seemed 'taboo' to show so much of the growth of the villains in shonen jump when it came out in the manga, to be away from the protagonists for so long. Horikoshi-sensei got a lot of push back at first to do the 'My Villain Academia' arc by editors too. Feel free to name other villain arcs in shonen series like that for me if you know some!

[@ObaREX]

Naruto KINDA did this with arcs that focused on Sasuke but it's hardly the same. Nothing about Sasuke's crew are of any consequence. Yeah, My Villain Academia was some amazing shit. Unique shit, too. But too had the studio really didn't wanna give it the time it deserves. So many anime only fans will likely find it not as impactful.

[@raec5426]

@@ObaREX Well Sasuke was introduced on the protag side. I mean purely an antag from introduction. That stands out to me at least. lol

[@daddyman123456789]

For real man, these guys can't have it botb ways!

[@NRLazy]

@@ObaREX Sasuke wasn't a villain until the climax of the series. he just wasn't on Naruto's side at the time

[@tdog703]

He should do one again and what chad he said fuck you guys this my story I add what I like and how I want it

[@georginagaynor7059]

Feel like at this point it's clear that mha is not just heroes are cool, in fact maybe the exact opposite lmao

[@lucariojet]

"But how many heroes do you know with the power of Frog?" Damn. He's right. Toad isn't a frog

[@johnquiett1085]

I want to disagree that MHA doesn't offer anything new, but I guess I have to begrudgingly admit it doesn't. However, it does one thing better in my opinion than any other shonen or superhero media has done...heroic spirit. Spider-Man has the scene where a building has collapsed on him and he nearly quits but doesn't. Captain America has his "I can do this all day." catch phrase. The Captain Marvel trailer showed her standing up after failing multiple times (then they failed to invoke that emotion in the movie, imo). Goku certainly does it with the spirit bomb scene. Naruto's fight with Sauske at the falls was beyond epic and showed the heroic spirit as he fought to redeem his friend. But MHA does it every single arc. During the sports festival. Then the villain attack on the training center. The Bakugo "rescue" and fight with All-for-One. And so many other scenes I just go back and watch. Just every time around. The emotion and the drive Deku and All-Might invoke, and eventually others. Even the villains like Twice and Shigaraki get to do it. This show makes me root for the bad guys sometimes. That's nuts! I know the good guys will win. I know the outcome before either happens but the show punches me in the feels all the damn time. That's what it does better than ANY other media you can name. It's not new. Other people have done it, but they don't do it as often. They don't do it better.

[@crowing3886]

Is this including the manga? Because...my villian academia is built very different from like every shonen lol I'd say this would apply to earlier seasons.

[@jpmedina8328]

And to some extend some of the arcs following after

[@BulletWilliam]

Agree completely. Not every show or movie has to be be revolutionary. They should try to do things well though. My friend asked me once why I liked MHA and my response was its just easy to watch. The characters have depth with out being biographies and the plot is complicated enough but it's not convoluted.

[@barnowl2655]

It's not my favorite, it's number 15 on my top 15 favorite anime, but it's got a solid story, it's fun, and it makes cliches work. That's not easy to do, I give full props to Horikoshi for doing what most writers can't.

[@danieldejesusfigueredoorop1428]

I think MHA does better in execution (and ye reason I, who stopped watching shonen about a decade ago) because tropewise it throws itself into every "cliché" but find a way around every single one of them, things like the powercreep are explored from a different perspective, we already know potentially Deli have the strongest powers of them all, there won't be an alien dropping from a new planet more stronger who force him to train and get better, he will just need to find a way to control much more of his power without killing himself.

[@Amy_the_Lizard]

...Deli...I just love autocorrect sometimes..! XD

[@ZuckerBubi]

Mha is a standart shonen world filled with awesome characters. They really just hit the note on the characters, none of the students is awfully boring or just completely forgotten. Unlike other big shonen (n a r u t o) So I personally agree, yes it doesnt do anything new but it just perfects everything around it.

[@notinorder9630]

yup, this makes so many good points! It gets so irritating to see people constantly looking at something new(especially if it wears it's influences on it's sleeve) and claim that it's bad just because it has similarities to something else. Inspiration is an awesome thing, and people shouldn't be punished for using it in their own work.

[@ObaREX]

The one time the story DOES do something new, the studio moves that arc to the end of the season, when the best animators aren't as consistently available, and they cut scenes out to condense it into five episodes.

[@ljc5277]

Thank you for validating my feelings on shounen and MHA! I don't actually like MHA, but I get why others like it. I get really tired of shounen unless they do something more interesting, like making the Special BoyTM not interested in power creep (Itadori in JJK) or actual character development (Tanjiro in Demon Slayer). I just tried to watch Black Clover, but it's so boring and I can't deal with Asta's constant yelling and screaming about how he's gonna be the Pirate I MEAN Wizard King. And yet, it's all wish fulfillment, and therefore, very appealing. Anyway, thanks again for this video and I can't wait for more!

[@aaronhomer]

This makes me think of Haikyuu, which is probably my favorite anime, but is also just a very tropey shonen sports anime that executes all the tropes really well. Something can be great just through the quality of its execution, even without being uniquely innovative.

[@Virginny]

I thought my hero academia was supposed to be a parody to a certain extent. It's just a fun feel good anime with good action and they aren't afraid to use tropes. Yeah alot of what they do gas been done before but the story itself is interesting and unique in its own way with a plethora of fun and cool characters

[@mr.sandman7339]

I agree. They're good at making it equal parts weighty and ridiculous. There are moments when the tone gets serious and then I remember that there's a character who has a manga speech bubble for a head and it becomes parody again lol

[@ReeseDarknessB]

I'm old I'll leave it at that I have seen tons of Shonen. MHA by far does all the typical tropes so well. Also another great video from beyond the bot crew!

[@deedav98]

No story does anything new. They are just arranged in new ways.

[@Triaxonico]

if Curt is in the vid then u know there gonna be something lewd

[@DedOops]

As someone with a brother who doesn’t allow me to watch any anime’s this is really intresting, I personally love watching MHA for the characters, so after watching this I have a question to any big anime/ manga fans [spoilers about manga] what other anime’s have a rogue arc like Deku had lol

[@hitori9865]

Although I would agree with this statement based on the earlier seasons, when the my villian academia arc that was a nice twist. Also shigaraki is a new kinda villian as well, a villian that grows along side the protagonist as if he is a protagonist him self

[@raec5426]

Yeah can't think of other battle shonen off the top of my head with a villain exclusive arc without the protagonist. The anatagonist given the protagonist treatment.

[@marmex9912]

Zuko from avatar sort of did that, but it's not really an anime

[@cwopre]

Garou… lol I think Curt was right about Horikoshi and One Punch Man

[@iexisted583]

@@marmex9912 well anime is cartoon in eng so technically yeh

[@cresentj]

Its just an ok show for me. I wasn't a fan of midoriya getting powers (was hoping for an actual underdog) and i despise bakugo with a passion so that hinders a bit of my entertainment each episode (took a break 2 years ago halfway through season 3) but it has enough things to like to warrant me watching more, at some point.

[@ck_cal]

as a manga enjoyer, mha sure uses those tropes (and it uses them _well_ if i do say so myself) and that is indeed a huge reason why it draws in so many people but at the same time there's just a lot more that horikoshi has to say within those tropes and i think the way it deviates from the norm there is also extremely interesting and noteworthy

[@JoNoEe]

It's blatant influences from anime and comic books were so fun for me as a western comic fan. Seeing All Might (bronze age as mentioned) exist in the same universe as Stain (the platonic ideal of a 90s Rob Leifeld character) and both feel coherent in the same world rules.

[@G-LukeJA]

That description fits Black Clover even more than My Hero Academia

[@AintNoWaye]

yup lmao

[@mr.goblin6039]

It fits both. Black Clover and MHA are both good but cliche shows, and that’s fine. People think that having cliche tropes somehow makes something bad, but it doesn’t. That’s what this video is saying.

[@plugcap2604]

@@mr.goblin6039 what about using a little girl body for quirk bullets Is cliche?☠️ this video and bad and the series don’t compare

[@mr.goblin6039]

@@plugcap2604 That overall premise IS very cliche, actually. Check it: A bad guy captures and tortures an innocent character, usually a child or a woman, to obtain something from them to use for some nefarious plot, the heroes find out about it so they set out to save them and stop the bad guy's plan. That same premise happens in various ways in Black Clover, Rurouni Kenshin, Yu Yu Hakusho, Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, Fate, and many other anime. Hell, that very same premise is VERY common in Western media and superhero comics like the X-Men (specifically the Mutant cure story arc from Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men run).

[@G-LukeJA]

@@mr.goblin6039 I still think this vid is unnecessary

[@1234fakerstreet]

Curt's play on the raging commentators gives me life. lmao. These Curt hot take videos are so good and add such a variety to this channel. I love it.

[@KhaiNYC]

Great dissertation, you hit home on a lot of similarities that are very common in Shonen and nothing you said was inaccurate. Plus I loved the Spider-man Animated Series theme as well. Back in the day when you heard that theme you knew your Saturday Morning was going to start off great.

[@jazper4000]

1000% agree on all points, man. MHA is just another basic Shonen anime, BUT like you said, it does it well! I haven't watched much of it, mainly BECAUSE it's a basic Shonen, but I don't doubt that is an awesome anime. I'll get to it one day.

[@singingdiva_ritansumbu1737]

I appreciated the video and agreed on all of it. I am a female who loves shonen anime and you hit the nail on the head. I love MHA but it really just takes what other classics have done and makes it it’s own. It’s all very familiar and that’s okay

[@zap4th368]

the way i've heard mha explained is that, other shows try to reinvent the wheel with their premises, but mha just makes a damn good wheel.

[@NotHPotter]

Curt, you're tripping, but only because that's your natural state of being.

[@AviatrixDown]

Agreed, this show is comfort food. All Might is The Tick as far as I'm concerned. Familiar mainstream territory, but the animation is just so very good. The anime equivalent of a cronut. Combined w/ Demon Slayer it ALMOST fills the HxH shaped hole in my heart. Anybody into super hero parody do watch Venture Bros on Adult Swim, its approach to unionized villainy is the very best. It was canceled, but luckily will be allowed to end with a feature-length film!

[@BRonSports]

MHA definitely is a good show and I think we all can agree on that. But it's always good to know where inspiration for things comes from and I think that was the biggest takeaway from this episode. We're on the same page!

[@MatthewMurraycogswoth]

Mha has great episodes and has easily understandable concepts. It's fun and consistent. It's basically the MCU of the shounen world. In the hero stuff yeah but also in the formula and such. And I honestly love it

[@TheHKZero]

Flyers by Bradio (From Death Parade) for my theme song to play. It's how everyone knows you're down to party. That song had no buisness being used for a show as grim as it was.

[@akairo2242]

just because someone doesn't die or life isn't at risk doesn't mean there are no consequences, you're ignoring the whole emotional core of that arc and many arcs. Feels like you are missing many of the core points of the story just cause its shounen

[@SuperEasywalker]

You know Cellspex did a video on “Originality” in media. In short there no such thing as originality only in how they are execute in either to enhance, made funny of, or subvert said tropes.

[@ChicaneryBear]

The problem for me is that the school setting is so overdone. Even X Men isn't at a school anymore, having moved all mutants to the mutant separatist nation of Krakoa, and Xavier's School is one of the most iconic parts of the series. It's a creative dead end at this point.

[@mr.goblin6039]

Krakoa is weird but it’s such a breath of fresh air for X-Men. It’s like Genosha done right. Hickman’s run has been really good so far.

[@raec5426]

It's a shonen demographic manga series so that's why they focus so much with school usually. lol

[@Free-tu5rl]

@chicanery If you feel like that than start reading manga because the school and other stuff is not relevant now so if you are caught up to season 5 episode 11 then start reading manga from chapter 218 because the arc after joint training is one of the best arc of mha and in anime they make so many shitty decisions about this arc like they cut some very important stuff of this arc and they censor the hell out of this arc , they spoiled the whole conclusion of this arc and the pacing is shit. So my advice is for you to read manga from chapter 218 it’s just better both in terms of art and tone.

[@ChicaneryBear]

@@mr.goblin6039 I'd caution against calling it Hickman's run when really it's a collaborative effort. Without Brisson, Duggan, Ayala, Williams, Howard, Percy etc., Krakoa wouldn't be such a huge sea change. While Hickman is the architect, each writer and artist is an essential part of the new status quo. It's the Krakoan era, not the Hickman era.

[@ArtSteph6]

I know it's not targeting the same audience (or at least the same age group) but MHA also really struck me as an joyful, optimistic, shonen take on the same world depicted in Alan Moore's "Top 10" stories, and I would be surprised if the creator hadn't at least heard of it. It uses the same basic concept of a world where everyone has superpowers, peppered with homages and in-jokes and references to *it's* inspirations and influences, but created instead as a pessimistic police drama with dark humor mixed with gritty violence (because, yanno, Alan Moore) And I am THERE for it, because there are so many possibilities for stories in that kind of world! (tho if I had to pick one to live it I'd prefer MHA's version) And I get that both draw from the same source of inspiration, but if you've read Top 10 you know why I laughed out loud when the dog-headed police captain showed up in MHA... :D

[@13myrrh]

Since you mentioned it - Deko has a lot in common with Peter Parker. Both are nerdy at heart and lacks confidence when not doing hero work. Even the mumbling thing Deko does is a different presentation of Peter's internal monologues and tendency to get lost in thought. Both had greatness trusted upon them (in worlds with actual geaticaly 'blessed' god-like entities) and try to figure out how to better serve others using that found power.

[@marocat4749]

His other protagonist of vigilantes even more.

[@LindaMitchell]

Thank you for bringing up the X-Men comparisons in My Hero Academia. It's cool that MHA borrowed from so many sources but made something very entertaining. I enjoy watching the show because Horikoshi does a great job telling this story.

[@micah459]

I will say it does nothing new but most anime doesn't tbh. I do think how they handle the villains is a breath of fresh air because we don't get villains that we can get behind in most Shonen.

[@sjaaksjok]

Yeah I would say this is not shonen specific, or even anime specific. There are only few story premises that originate from way back ( like hero saves someone; star- crossed lovers) and different stories just differ in plot, characters, mixup of premises, setting, culture etc.

[@raec5426]

I don't know of many battle shonen off the top of my head to do a full villain arc without the protagonists like with MVA. That stands out to me. lol

[@JustJ1ydenTbh]

Hey beyond the bot just asking can we get a part 2 of the one piece timeline? Ive been waiting for it for a long time but i havent got it :(

[@luisphone8684]

Im still waiting for you to rate the Pro heroes costumes. I just need cristian making fun of fat gum or present mic or even midnight. I just………I just need that right now lol

[@Amber_xo_133]

Read Vol 23 of the Manga the Anime cuts a lot of stuff from the Manga especially in the MVA Arc

[@RazorFox]

OH BUT VEGITAS SENS OF PRIDE AND BAKUGOS SENS OF PRIDE ARE STEEPED IN DIFFERENT PRINCIPLES! YOU CAN'T JUST ACT LIKE THERE ISN'T A DISTINCT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CHARACTERS!!!!

[@animelover08642]

These comments are something else. You can tell who are new anime fans; old anime fans; comic book fans and just straight up simps for MHA

[@BeyondTheBot]

It’s a fun time.

[@Kaydark]

I dont agree with the Power Creep. All Might is the cap of power. But do agree he insane powerful to the he almost One Punch Man.

[@Hollow5999]

Damn I need roommates like that...

[@monjishbhattacharyya3795]

You're not wrong. But I think it's because of that, that it's the perfect intro anime in my opinion.

[@rw8160]

Deku isn't green Naruto, he's straight up just Rock Lee

[@cresentj]

if rock lee got the 9 tail fox and the fourth hokage as a mentor

[@wolfman6696]

@@cresentj Nah, the Fourth Hokage is actually competent, All Might is actually a really bad mentor in canon and pretty much didn't teach Izuku a god damn thing other than giving him workout routine.

[@Flustered_Potato]

Whenever I watch My Hero & the opening or mid-episode title card does the shine animation across the name, I subconsciously say, “Sky High.” 🤣

[@p0ppysmic13]

The story structure of bnha is unorthodox in some ways thats good but its definitely hurting how the "overarching story" is building up, i.e. the recent arc. Somehow because we always had these "short arcs", coming to the end saga (like horikoshi declared after the liberation war) doesnt feel so much earned.

[@PsychoStreak]

Anime intro when I walk in the room? I've watched more anime than I care to think about, but it's Battlecry from Samurai Champloo.

[@jatcat]

What bI love about the Deku Bakugo fight most is that it borrows from a concept in Naruto. Through fighting, rivals can understand each other. By leaving it all on the field, it relieves tension and brings them closer. When I saw Bakugo and Deku on the couch arguing over the previous One for All holders, it showed that they had less tension and were able to speak openly to each other. I think conflict mainly arises when people aren't able to speak freely out of fear or pride. However, in that one on one combat we see with Shonen characters like Deku and Bakugo, the prideful one has to humble himself and raise his view of the other person, and the overcomer has to gain the confidence and learn to see right through the walls of his rival. Even in real life, open communication with people who rub us the wrong way tends to bring out the heart of the person. And in Shonen, that communication comes through the exchange of fists, with no power held back.

[@TroysonMustDie]

I agree that MHA has the shonen tropes... But doesn't every piece in the genre? Yeah, that's why it's a genre. But none other than MHA had made me cry and feel so much for its characters, it takes those tropes and twists them. Don't come and tell me that MHA does nothing revolutionary when it criticizes it own universe at its core (hero society) and it tries to rebuild it from zero (current manga).

[@atomicq3603]

4:00 damn you accidentally got Black Clover in that one too

[@calipupcorn3886]

Ill take a filler episode that heavily references Sky High. I lowkey really want to see that.

[@komugemon8010]

16:15 How many people do you know with the power of frog? Toad from X-Men would be a good candidate

[@TheMrMelodramatic]

My Hero Academia is like Shounen bread and butter, but the bread and butter are made immaculately.

[@BeyondTheBot]

Thank you. Like, the whole point is that it’s fine if it’s not super revolutionary. Literally everything nowadays is a remix. But, that doesn’t automatically make it less enjoyable or good.

[@Ishpreetb264]

Are we even watching the same show???

[@Nocmora]

“He cried, he begged, he cleaned - that’s a normal wife” 💀

[@kamhash1]

*Curt says a take* *BRRRRnuuuuuEEEEERRRRnuhnunuhRRRRR*

[@ray-wq3oy]

whos ur favorite character? mines sero :D

[@Sadcat420]

I simp for Sero

[@raymontyoungblood4453]

Yo Curt, remember when I drew you at that same Espada table from Bleach OP 7? Pepperidge Farms remembers 🤣🤣🤣

[@sophie4228]

one thing that mha does do differently than a lot of other shounen anime is the concept of masculinity and how it's portrayed through mainly deku but also bakugo, eijiro, todoroki (and endeavour) and others it's lack of toxic masculinity and general openness may also be one of the reasons why the fandom (at least seems to be) largely female, in contrast to the dominantly male fandoms of Dragon Ball, Naruto and other shounen idk i just recently saw a video on that and thought I'd add i completely agree with your video btw, it's a solid show and it's similarity to others has always felt a bit safe and comforting for me while the show is still very entertaining

[@charsiuwu8084]

100% correct, on literally every point. Good artists create, great artists steal.

[@Treegona]

Personal opinion: Black clover's manga did roughly the same thing with going all-in on the tropes so they can do an "early chapters of the battle-fantasy manga" speedrun. They need I think 5 chapters to get the primary cast introduced, have a clear sense of what the rivalry dynamic is, a goal for both main characters, a rough overview of the supporting characters, the structure our underdog is fighting against, how his fighting against that structure is different from everyone else's, a bit of forshadowing that Not All Is As It Seems, and drop our protag-kun off at the first Big Showpiece Battle. The anime fucks this up, of course, by bloating out the first few episodes and most people can't get over his yelling (which is at least not vocal in the manga). So. Yea, if you want to see how break-neck a manga can get, check out Black Clover('s manga)

[@Dark_Upcast]

Your right on curt love your vids

[@NuGundam_]

I see a lot of mad people. "MHA is so misunderstood." "You missed the point." No, it's not. It's a shounen anime and it borrows from the tropes that the successful shows before it used. It's a formula and it works for longevity in shounen. I suppose for the older anime fans, seeing these tropes over and over can get tiring and make you jaded. There's nothing wrong that they pull inspiration from the shows before it but it's also not wrong to recognize that these concepts have been done before and lament for a little more originality.

[@Ishpreetb264]

No one's denying that MHA borrows a lot from other successful show but a lot of the things this creator said about MHA's plot in this video are actually wrong and MHA does have a lot of originality.

[@jalenjackson9571]

I feel like my hero starts off saying heroes are cool then as you get deeper its like damn maybe they aren't lol then eventually its getting to maybe they can be but not in the way they are currently

[@jakobramirez3397]

Then the episode we get today is like okay it does some stuff different

[@lunacano6879]

I love One Piece so I’m really enjoying the world and character building as well as more then one season so I can have a break from the anime and then jump in and have 10 new episodes available for me to binge watch when I’m having a bad mental health day.

[@TheYoungGeninSasuke]

Todoroki does have a classic quirk but I never seen it combined before. So that is something for me.

[@kellyrox8910]

As someone who is watching Naruto for the first time right now, this whole thesis checks out. I remember getting so weirdly pissed years ago when bnha first got animated because of all the Naruto comparisons because NO IT'S ITS OWN SHOW, STOP COMPARING EVERYTHING TO NARUTO, blah. I know how superfans always wanna act like their fave is the second coming of Christ, but the longer you watch shonen the more you see just how derivative ALL anime can be of others in its genre. Like, look at isekai as a whole, you know? But just because bnha isnt reinventing the wheel doesnt mean that it's bad or dull. Like, you're 100% right on how on point bnha's pacing is!! I know Naruto and many other shonen have filler to content with, but GOOD GOD. Watching Naruto is a struggle when I compare it with modern stuff. Spending over ten episodes on one fight alone because of all the talking flash backs, and just straight up DEAD SPACE should have been a fucking crime. There's so. much. dead. space. I can't praise bnha enough for doing away with that. Even with its meatiest and most plot-relevant fights, bnha never stretches a single fight more than like 3 episodes and I love that. You KNOW the Naruto version of like, Deku vs. Gentle Criminal would be AT LEAST a half a season. My brain melts just thinking about it.

[@quakasqquak]

The comparison with "one punch man" reminded me of "Tiger and Bunny"

[@PLMNOAH]

This video is genuinely awful, classic case of a person dumbing down a series as much as possible and comparing the most surface level traits to try and prove a point.

[@allikateor]

Don't forget that classic shonen trope of "underdeveloped main female character" which.....yeeeep, MHA falls into absolutely perfectly.

[@an8strengthkobold360]

Yep

[@marocat4749]

Its decent, not the best but decent.

[@joseyscannell3257]

I feel lucky because my hero is the first anime i ever watched and i've only seen jojo and aot since and they dont share andy tropes

[@trentfarrell]

I agree with you. It’s Naruto in a superhero skin. But I don’t think that’s a bad thing.

[@barnowl2655]

I like MHA cause it's a series that never forgets to have fun.

[@safaia4797]

Love the video Beyond the Bot! One thing that MatPat taught me, is that no new idea is every made. We're all just reusing ideas and making our own little twist to the "new" idea. There's nothing new under the sun as the saying goes.

[@MisterShockley]

You got to love that confidence👍🏿

[@korn7809]

This video disccribed why I don't like battle shounen lol.

[@someblaqguy]

Babyhood is a bully... he's gotten better but you can't tell me he's a "childhood" friend and try to force me to believe it.

[@supervillaintalkradio]

Are we not watching the same show???? My Hero has done more for frog character representation than anybody since Frogger, and that game was frog trauma porn.

[@FaithOriginalisme]

MHA made me feel a lot more things than most of the anime it takes inspiration from. Don't get me wrong, the others made me feel things, but MHA made me feel them more because of the execution

[@arlovalverde4408]

Love Curts commenters impressions

[@topeogunmakinwa9347]

Ryouta Murakami from Brynhildr in the Darkness (2014) and Izuku “Deku” Midoriya from My Hero Academia (2016-) are team players who uses their brains before their brawns, rarely going in with a plan and dedicate themselves to serve people and doing the right thing. But how relatable are these two are? For this list; I’m doing the “Top 10 Times Ryouta Murakami and Izuku Midoriya are Relatable”. For those of ya’ll who are fans of Brynhildr in the Darkness (2014) (Like Myself); then ya’ll should give “My Hero Academia” franchise (2016 -) a watch and for those of ya’ll who are fans of “My Hero Academia” franchise (2016 -); then ya’ll should give Brynhildr in the Darkness (2014) a watch too. For me personally; I enjoyed watching everything that have been happening in the ““My Hero Academia” franchise (2016 -) so far and understand why Ryouta and Izuku are both similar to each other. Rather ya’ll agree with this list or not; that up to you to decide. Alright then; Let’s move on to the list: Top 10 Times Ryouta Murakami and Izuku Midoriya are Relatable 1.Ryouta’s childhood past with Neko and Izuku’s childhood past with Bakugo 2.Ryouta accept to have faith on the “Witches” after they save him from The Police Squad and Izuku accept “One For All” 3.Ryouta decide it to help Neko after reading her letter on telling him not to help her and Izuku decide it to try and save Bakugo from The Sludge Villain 4.Ryouta & Kotori save Neko from Kikako and Izuku save Ochaco from the Zero-Point Robot of the Villain Bots 5.Ryouta standing up for the Witches against Hexenjagd and Izuku telling Shoto that his “Quirk” is his; not his father, Endeavor 6. Kotori smile when Ryouta said “Happy Birthday” to her and Eri smile when Izuku and Class 1-A did their musical performance in the School Festival 7.Ryouta have the ability to use “Photographic Memory” and Izuku have the ability to use “Shoot Style” 8.Ryouta being a kind caretaker to the “Witches” and Izuku showing his kindness to Bakugo 9.Ryouta save Hatsuna on a radio tower and Izuku save Kota from Muscular 10.Ryouta tell Kogorou about the “Witches” and Izuku tell Bakugo about “One For All”

[@margaritamaras559]

Mha is a shonen twist on the American comic book duperheros we know and love.

[@TheMalevolentRider]

Do the Baby quirk thing like the old time.

[@datboireezy]

I'm sorry but I can't stand these types of videos. If you dumb down every Shonen than of course they'll look the same. These videos do so much harm to people's online perception of the series(example: Deku still being called Green Naruto in 2021 is laughable,calling MHA squeaky clean X-Men and Sky High in 2021 is wild) Like if you honestly read the MHA manga and you still think this in than I don't know what to tell you at this point.We'll never be freed from these takes I fear. Edit: I will admit that the MHA anime is also to blame for why people have this perception of the series. The do a shit job with the tone of the series among other smaller things .

[@dinolover]

If you like the series that's fine, but stop acting like it broke new ground. I'm a Bleach fan, but I'm not gonna sit here and act like Bleach did anything new that wasn't done in animes/media that came way before it. That's the problem with fans like you, if someone doesn't hail the series then its an attack even though at the end of the day no one cares if you still like it.

[@ZephSpiral]

@@dinolover they never said anything about mha doing something new. They just said, that dumbing down shonen to it's core parts, literally makes then indistinguishable from each other.

[@datboireezy]

@@ZephSpiral thank you for understanding my comment

[@datboireezy]

@@dinoloverIf that's what you got out of my comment than please reread since you completely missed my point

[@NXT_WRLD]

Les go new vid!!!

[@michaelmcmanus4977]

Check out Super Powereds by Drew Hayes, the similarities are very interesting. As he said MHA is pulling from all these places, just fun to see where you can make links between media.