My Home Theater Sounds Better Than Yours!

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Video Timeline:
0:00 - Intro/Dune Demo Reactions
1:06 - My Home Theater System
1:49 - Binaural Demo Before Calibration
4:48 - Magic Beans Supported Devices
5:18 - Mic Check
5:35 - Select Layout
6:16 - Nearfiled Measurement
6:37 - AVR Settings for Calibration
6:59 - Professional Section of the SACT
7:16 - How to Measure a Speaker?
8:15 - Measuring Front Left Speaker
8:46 - Measuring Center Channel Speaker
9:14 - Measuring Front Right Speaker
9:33 - What is the Moving Mic Method?
9:58 - Measure Speakers "in situ"
10:26 - Measuring Surround Right Speaker
10:35 - Measuring Surround Left Speaker
10:54 - How Long Will This Take?
11:24 - Magic Beans & SACT
11:40 - Measuring Front Height Left
11:52 - How to Redo a Measurement?
12:16 - Measuring Fright Height Right
12:25 - Stage 2 - Measure from MLP
12:34 - How to Measure from MLP
13:26 - Front Left MLP Measurement
13:34 - Circular Motion
14:05 - Measuring From MLP
15:12 - Measuring LFE from MLP
15:58 - Getting a Custom Target Curve!
16:37 - Importance of a Custom Target Curve
18:03 - Audyssey MultEQ-X Intro
18:36 - REW Import w/ Pro Version
19:29 - MultEQ-X Quick Calibration
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[@ErinsAudioCorner]

Na na, boo boo, my system sounds better than yours do! 😂

[@TechnoDad]

LOL!!!

[@brianvarley]

Hi TechnoDad, I bought a marantz 7015 amplifier I went through audyssey, and the bottom 5 speakers are fine. The height speakers or clicking in the amp could you tell me what to do please kind regards Brian 😢

[@psyphonyxaudio]

Nice to see you guys hanging out =) ..Great demo and set up guide here. Valuable to many =)

[@TechnoDad]

You know this, maaaaan!

[@FreeThinker-HiFiAudio]

Amazing! how simplified this calibration is. Thank you for the all the great work. Can’t wait to try out the app soon.

[@joentell]

The hardest thing is to make it simple. We're over 200 iterations of the build and still working on getting it ready for public beta.

[@edwardculbreath1277]

Is this going to work with anthem room correction? Thanks@@joentell

[@deanbriggs1808]

Great video guys!!!! I’m looking forward to the release of Magic Beans!!!!!!

[@TechnoDad]

Oh yeah!

[@ants9574]

So happy yall played Dune 😂

[@TechnoDad]

It's great!

[@CMattyMonster]

This is an awesome video. Firstly it's a Technodad x Joentell collaboration, secondly it's a real world home theatre system and finally it has Magic Beans.

[@josephsjodin4837]

I've done a lot of work calibrating my room with mini dsp and rew, Ypao but I've always wanted to really get into individual speaker correction to see if I can bump it up a level. This looks really interesting and would just give you that last bit of performance. Looks very interesting.

[@TechnoDad]

It is! I can’t wait to watch more movies on this system.

[@d-nice9212]

What's up my brother, I'm so proud of you for keeping it real and not losing your joy and passion. Life is tough, but you chose to persevere and that's what resonates with your viewers. There's no shame in your game and that's a example we can follow. Thank you for your work, it has been very helpful for me and my home theater

[@TechnoDad]

Thanks, D-Nice! I truly appreciate it.

[@jitu757]

Awesome video. I can't wait to get all the calibration tools to optimize my system. I signed up for the MB Beta, then went on to purchase the Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit but the 15% off code didn't work. Please advise. Thanks!

[@toddshagena4360]

I am excited about the magic bean I have been watching for awhile and listen to you guys talk about, now I might be able to try it myself……that’s awesome!

[@TechnoDad]

I’m excited for everyone to try it out!

[@adamjj85]

Good stuff. Definitely interested in a Magic Beans with Dirac video!

[@TechnoDad]

Copy that!

[@martinmares8998]

I'm excited to try Magic Beans. I have all the measuring tool I need as per your recommendations. The only thing different from your recommendation is I have the DaytonAudio UMM-6 Mic. I hope the Dayton mic is not an issue. Can't wait to hear the after calibration results. Question. My Denon has two independent sub outs. Do I still need a miniDSP and REW to get the best sound power out of them?

[@Exploringthemagic]

weirdly, with everything going on in your life, with having to restart everything, ive never seen you this excited happy, going back to your roots. :) I've been watching for years im a friend of Michaels (youth man), very happy to see you enjoying life.

[@TechnoDad]

Thank you so much!

[@wa2368]

@@TechnoDad At the end, Joe's lookin jealous as fk because his stuff still doesn't sound as good as yours (after all the tweaking he did over the years), Lol. Rock on TechnoD.

[@TechnoDad]

@@wa2368 he has these same speakers and AVR. I've heard his system and it rocks as well. Magic Beans for everyone!!

[@gufiaito69able]

What going on in his life? I hope he is healthy

[@RubenAliFuenmayor]

That loudness mode tip! Thank you so much, i had no idea that was there.

[@TechnoDad]

Happy to help!

[@hiresaudiocosta873]

Love the name "Magic Beans". Congratulations on your improvements!!

[@TechnoDad]

Thank you!

[@farfarad89]

Thankx. Could you please do a Howto with yamaha ypao also. thank you.

[@MrBjorn6]

That's shit sounds incredible and im watching and listening on my phone. Im very impressed. But not surprised you have a good sounding system

[@J.R.Hernandez73]

The dynamic duo back at it! Channa I'm so jealous you got your system dialed in... Nahhh bro just kidding 😊 I'm excited for you. Can't wait for the release of Joe's Magic Beans room calibration software.

[@TechnoDad]

Thank you!

[@AsadAbbasi00]

If this works the way you're saying it works, this could.be a game changer for home systems. Waiting to find out more!

[@failingup4907]

I'm watching this video on my pc with a 48" LG oled tv as my monitor and z5500 logitech computer speakers and when Joe was watching that demo and the bass hit.. omg..LOL my 10" sub went ape shit! It was funny as hell. Great work.. What's up with Magic Beans? hmmm :)

[@rudiedj23]

This was awesome, what a great overview. Would love to see this in relation to Dirac😉

[@TechnoDad]

Okay!

[@askmatt7283]

I just purchased my Magic Beans/True Target selfie stick and matching shock mount 🤣 Question: What calibration file is Joe using for his UMIK-1? Is it the normal orientation or the 90 degree orientation file? Can't wait to try this in my system 🍺

[@TechnoDad]

Hi! He's using the standard file

[@askmatt7283]

I have watched this video multiple times and am now convinced this is the way. Every calibration system I am aware of only measures a speakers frequency response from the main listening position. But this app measures the speaker independent of the room, the speaker from the main listening position and then reconciles the two in order to create a custom target curve that is individual and specific to YOUR speakers in YOUR room. Why use a target curve developed by someone else using some other speakers in some other room when you can have a custom tailored solution particular to your unique needs? Channa called this the disruptor and I think he's right. I have an RZ50 with DIRAC Live and if True Target is compatible with my AVR, I will be a day one customer. Please keep your fans informed. Subscribed 🍺

[@TechnoDad]

Ayyyy! Thank you for watching! I truly appreciate it. And yes, this IS a disruptor. I hope everyone will listen to the information with open ears and understand the process like you have. Thanks again for watching!

[@bledarney1]

I would argue that it doesnt make any difference how it measures right at the speaker because that is not what you hear. The only thing that matters is how it measures in your listening area. Its a room calibration - NOT a speaker calibration, so measuring where you listen is the way. Hence why all the best and biggest manufacturers do it this way

[@WardoUSA]

So there’s 3 packages available for purchase + the hardware. Is there plans for purchase of only the app? Benefits vs REW?

[@DarrenKrusi]

Can you do an updated video on the moving mic method and the differences in results between the M - move and the pull out move. And why the pull out method is more effective.

[@Zshiro]

Awesome video, can’t wait to try out magic beans. I just got the Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit Blu-ray😁😁

[@TechnoDad]

Thank you so much! Don't forget to join the owner's Discord to get tips and tricks from fellow users.

[@Zshiro]

@@TechnoDad Will do thanks for letting me know a little the Discord!🤜🏼💥🤛🏼

[@didi_p7756]

Hey, seems to be a real great method/app; i definitely will purchase and try it if it's available🙂 Charles Sprinkle mentioned in the video 'The Moving Mic Measurement Method' that: 'The foam windscreen is important, because it lowers the amount of noise from moving the microphone around that you might encounter!'. Why you don't use it?

[@saschawehde8072]

Hey Sir, can you tell me if the moving microphone method (near field / MLP) works only with the 0 degree file or can one use the 90 degree file as well (when using this method in REW)? Thanks

[@HartSystemsBookkeeping]

OMG I love this stuff so much! Thanks for teaming up and putting out amazing products. Can you please help with a workflow question? *Do we ALWAYS "Exclude Position" in the MultEQ-X app? I understand why you did in the video: no Audyssey stuff was run on Channa's system; no EQ was placed on his speakers when True Target was run. But what if the Magic Beans True Target app was recording near field on speakers that did have Audyssey filtering EQ curves applied to them? Since that EQ was coming out during the recording, wouldn't one want to include those filtering curves that produced the original sound signature? Then True Target's EQs imported to "lay on top" of what was there to begin with. In this case, would we "Include Position"? Or... at 6:52 were you going to completely turn off all Audyssey stuff to begin with, to have no filtering EQ on the speakers during your upcoming near field recording? *Should we ALWAYS turn off Audyssey / other EQ before using True Target? Thanks Joe and Channa!

[@titan2793]

This calibration is awesome. I have to work towards preparing my living room for an updated movie experience.

[@TechnoDad]

It really is a game changer.

[@riley6723]

Its nice to see a reviewer who came from a nice theatre set up, who can now can associate with 90% of us who can’t afford large systems. And can connect with us again 👍🏻 and not think cheap systems aren’t worth talking about.

[@TechnoDad]

I've been doing this a long time and I know what it's like to have a tight budget. I remember my first system when I was in High School. It was a hodgepodge of speakers but had a decent Denon AVR for Dolby Pro Logic II. It took a few years, but I slowly earned and purchased the other speakers and had my first 5.1 setup back in the mid-90's. I like to buy expensive stuff when I can, but it's not a prerequiste for performance. Thank you for watching!

[@brokenwrench404]

Your place looks similar to my set up when I moved out. Keep your head up and keep moving forward. What movie was that in the beginning?

[@TechnoDad]

Thanks, will do! That's the new Dune movie at the beginning.

[@DrSchnaggelz]

I spent month to calibrate my system with my umik-1, REW, MSO and Dirac live for final adjustments. I also tried multeq-x, which is a powerful tool if you're just using it for importing your PEQ's. I'm looking forward to use magic beans and to see if there's an improvement over what I did so far.

[@TechnoDad]

Wow! That must have taken some time and is probably a big learning curve...

[@DrSchnaggelz]

@TechnoDad Absolutely, but the knowledge you gain by learning how to use REW and MSO is priceless. I forgot to mention that I also use a miniDSP 2x4HD. I have to admit that at a certain point of this process, it gets kind of addictive. You're chasing for a perfect result, a perfect curve, perfect bass, perfect etc. but forget to enjoy what you actually started this for...music, movies, games. Your spatial audio toolkit really helps with adding the last finishing touches after a full calibration. Thx for this disc, love it! All the best to you and greetings from germany!

[@sebna]

Why there is no time tag for demo after all the effort? I cannot find it. Is there a demo after? If so what time stamp please.

[@JamesLBlack]

Love to see Magic Beans vs Dirac!

[@tombarney6951]

Hey there TD, is magic beans still available,and how do I order it. Thanks in advance.

[@computerenthusiast402]

Sound good using my Soundcore Q45 headphones…..This is the “Holly Grail” of home theater to build a best value quality sounding system. What Surround sound configuration are you using and what budget speakers do you recommend ?…….this is about the size of most peoples living rooms in USA. What AVR do you recommend ?……

[@pthetech-guy7548]

Please can you help me pick Focal 300 wlcr vs svs prime pinnacles for my HT build…

[@raymondnist8770]

What Denon/Marantz receivers will this work with? Looks very cool!

[@TechnoDad]

Pretty much any one that has at the very least a 10 band EQ.

[@carlosbucio6869]

I need to purchase that Spatial Audio calibration toolkit bundle. I’m sure it’ll make a major improvement on my system.

[@TechnoDad]

Yes, I'm sure it will! 15% off right now with the code BEANS15

[@carlosbucio6869]

@@TechnoDad Thanks!

[@AaronHamm-co7fm]

After watching this video it left me somewhat confused. I have a Marantz Cinema 50 with Dirac Live and it just makes all the changes for me. If I used your tool does it replace Dirac or on top of Dirac? Also how are the changes made on the Marantz? I also saw an option to export a target curve for Dirac. How does that work?

[@TechnoDad]

Hi! You would use this instead of Dirac.

[@craigsakid]

Nice!! Why is the center channel off-center? What kind of towers are those? New or used?

[@TechnoDad]

The TV is off center...I think thta's the problem. Bad installation. The speakers are all new. Monolith Encore T6 towers and C6 Center.

[@scroobthenookie8054]

So what does the spatial audio dvd do for a system

[@user-oj4qv3zh7e]

Blessings and thank you for the demonstration, I’d love get more information on the apps with cost, (fyi) I’m using a pair of monolith THX 10 subs, continued Blessings, peace

[@007g35]

Hey Channa, Great video as usual! 1. What were the crossover settings after with “Magic Beans”!! 2.I truly believe you guys have revolutionized the industry with Spatial calibration and “Magic Beans” “Sweeping the Speakers as opposed to the norm🤯‼️ 3. The A/V ReceiverCompanies are definitely going to integrate this technique in their future A/V Receivers. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️💪👈

[@bledarney1]

Dirac will do what you are trying to accomplish automatically already. It sets different crossovers and levels based on how you speaker measures natively. It will also adjust for phase issues. It will follow the natural response on it if you so choose. And its easy - minimal human errors

[@TechnoDad]

Unfortunately, Dirac does not do what Joe’s software does.

[@msoles30]

Yes channa do those sound comparisons videos

[@TechnoDad]

Okay!

[@Adam.NavyVet]

Can you output the calibration data to the Denon Audyssey MultEQ Editor App?

[@ants9574]

No only works with MultEQ-X software on desktop

[@BornIn82]

This video is one of the most relevant ones on your channel as it resonates with the average Joe (pun intended) like me. Got to learn alot, and looking forward to getting the Magic Beans down the road.

[@BornIn82]

Btw, @joentell are you by any chance collaborating with SVS on a similar tool? Nick of svs kinda let the cat out of the bag last week in a livestream that they are releasing a similar tool for their subs.......hmmmm

[@joentell]

I don't know. I would love to work with SVS though. @@BornIn82

[@TechnoDad]

Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@RollinRagu]

At 54, I'm now at a level of equipment that I can't really claim to be super budget. However, I spent at least 30 years on cheaper equipment and always felt like I was getting "most" of the experience. I absolutely LOVE the philosophy delivered with this video. Enjoyment at ANY level.

[@TechnoDad]

Ayyyy! Thank you for watching!

[@T-B0NE007]

What kind of speakers are you using?

[@Prerich45]

Ok im ready for this! When?!!!!!!!

[@TechnoDad]

Still in testing! I'm testing the newer version now!

[@d-nice9212]

Hi Chana, is it possible to ask your buddy if he can recommend an audio calibrator in New York ? I'm going to buy your disc, but I would like to have my system calibrated by a professional

[@TechnoDad]

Hi D-nice! Joe can do the calibration remotely, but it takes quite a while. He has an email form - technodad.biz/JNTBook

[@Bladecutter]

So Magic Beans allows you to do room correction without REW? I'm not suggesting that it's an REW replacement, other than for room correction.

[@joentell]

Yes, it allows you to do it without REW. I do recommend REW for more advanced manual calibration methods though. Especially useful with more than one sub.

[@Bladecutter]

@joentell Time to get a mic and register for the Magic Beans beta.

[@David25522]

Keep this great content coming in Techno Dad!

[@TechnoDad]

You got it, David!

[@stuntznfx]

Awesome video!!! I make those same sounds when I hear my system lol! Great to see you in good spirits!!! Merry Christmas!!!

[@TechnoDad]

Thank you. Happy Holidays!

[@richardgrumbine4867]

is there a way to import the room curve to YPAO (Yamaha CX A5100)?

[@TechnoDad]

I think it’s a bit more involved for Yamaha. I’ll have to check.

[@hdmoviesource]

Great video, looks like an amazing app. BTW, the inconsistent center channel is probably because its reflecting the sound off of that glass. I would either move the center channel to the edge of that glass or try and cover it with a table cloth or something. Because that center measurement is losing way too much precision. I don't know how it's making its target curve and what its based off of, but I need to find out:) Can you import as target curve instead of PEQ filters?

[@joentell]

The center is likely due to what you're saying and/or lobing from the MTM design. Your ELAC won't likely have that because of the concentric design. Importing the filters = creating a target curve, just a different method. I'm curious if choosing a target curve results in more or less filters vs forcing 10 PEQ's. With the Pro version, we enable exporting to REW with the individual measurements as well as the target curve which can then be imported into MultEQ-X. I wonder which would give more precision.

[@hdmoviesource]

I think the target curve will be more accurate. I've done both ways and the PEQ method was never as good even with over 25 PEQs, it could never match the import target method. However, other room correction systems don't use Audyssey's import target curve feature. A target curve on other systems is a guide used to allow the system to EQ to that curve, but in Audyssey, it actually allows full control over a curve from start to finish. This is what makes Audyssey the best room correction software out there right now as far as I'm aware.@@joentell

[@joentell]

@@hdmoviesource cool!. I'll have to do some thorough experiments with narrow filters

[@gufiaito69able]

Filled out the form for beta fingers crossed

[@marcusmcmurray77]

I’d LOVE Magic Beans v xxxx comparisons

[@TechnoDad]

Okay!

[@ChrisDitchDigger]

Ok I’m sold ! Please make sure I get a copy of this !

[@TechnoDad]

I think he is having a beta, you should sign up - technodad.biz/MBBeta

[@ChrisDitchDigger]

Thanks I signed up for the Beta .

[@texmuphy68]

​@@TechnoDadjust did! 🎉

[@karch2]

This was awesome guys. How do I get you to come to my house and tune my mess up. Well done

[@TechnoDad]

Thank you for watching!

[@bledarney1]

Can you explain how measuring right at the speaker will help the end result in the calibration. Since what you are trying to do is correct for the room so it sounds good and measures good at your listening position. IMO how it measures right at it wont help you get a better end net result. Also the moving mic method will introduce alot of noise into the measurements (humans are noisey, unless they do it naked, crack all their bones before hand and hold their breath while measuring. Its a good idea in a sense but humans will ERR.

[@TechnoDad]

Sure thing. When you measure at the speaker and then at the MLP, you can figure out how the room is affecting the sound at the MLP. So the software will create a custom target curve based on what your speakers are capable of and what the room is doing to the sound.

[@Shift4g]

I'm assuming Magic Beans will only be useful/work on recent AVR/Processors that except external calibration?

[@TechnoDad]

Hi! What AVR do you have? You can use the 10 band Eq settings and enter it into your AVR per speaker as well.

[@Shift4g]

I see, okay. I have a Marantz SR 7010

[@craigosterberg5045]

Picked up a few tips to turn off with my Dennon receiver. Thanks. Very good advice and video

[@TechnoDad]

Yup! I should make a separate video about that...

[@ottoburgess1555]

After seeing your Frankenstein setup I don’t feel so bad about mine….LOL. The demo over my AirPods is amazing. Magic Beans baby. Bring it on!

[@TechnoDad]

Haha! Glad I can help!

[@cristiansanchez6812]

I have the 4800 and I don't have pre amp and I can't get config correctly , I only get to work the front speakers I have a 9.1.4 speaker layout

[@TechnoDad]

Hi! The Denon X4800H will only support 7.1.4 with an external amp.

[@cristiansanchez6812]

@@TechnoDad thank you for the reply , in that case what avr would you recomend. Unless I know it may be a silly question can i connect 4 speakers to 2 speakers output ? The back ones.

[@DjMarkieMarc]

Hi y'all, can this type of calibration be done to any equipment or do i need a receiver that has this capability? Because my Marantz receiver is like six years old and i can only do Audyssey calibration with the supplied mike in the box which i still have somewhere? Any thoughts and comments welcome and many thanks to you all.

[@TechnoDad]

Hi! What model Marantz do you have? If you can use the Audyssey app with your Marantz, then MultEQ-C should work. You can also manually input the data into the 10 band Eq per speaker if the AVR is older.

[@DjMarkieMarc]

Thank you Technodad ❤I think I will have to go the manual rt. What would I need to get it done ? I am guessing the app magic beans and the audio disc plus a mic right?

[@Coffeedad]

Can this work with the regular audyssey app?

[@TechnoDad]

I don't think so...you can enter the PEQ settings through the equalizer per speaker, but it's not as precise.

[@MegaChi24]

great video how do you send to avr? new at this witch spatial cd needed,

[@TechnoDad]

Depending on the AVR, what make and model do you have? The Spatial disc is our product, the Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit. Do you have a blu ray player? That's the easiest way to use it. 15% off code for our product is BEANS15 - spatialcd.com/products/spatial-audio-calibration-toolkit-disc

[@MegaChi24]

@@TechnoDad I have a denon avrx4500h 7.4.4. I use the new xbox as my biu ray player . Will it work with it?

[@mfkhometheater7742]

I need to get upstairs and fine tune my line arrays. I just coarse dialed them in quite awhile ago and never got back to fine tune.

[@joentell]

Line arrays? That's awesome! I would love to be able to do line arrays.

[@mfkhometheater7742]

@@joentell Yes, not just any line arrays, CBT line arrays. 9'-8" tall CBT line arrays.

[@joentell]

WOW! Dr. Keele is awesome.@@mfkhometheater7742

[@TechnoDad]

That's pretty fancy!!

[@mfkhometheater7742]

@@TechnoDad If you are ever in the Austin TX area, let me know, you can come by and have a listen.

[@michaelmoxley7787]

Sorry if you answered this already but was that the Audyssey mic that came with the receiver or the Audyssey ACM1-X calibrated mic suggested on the Audyssey multiEQ-X website? I'm not sure if these are the same or different mic?

[@TechnoDad]

Hi! Great question! The ACM1-X is definitely NOT the same as the mic supplied with your AVR. The ACM1-X is individually calibrated.

[@michaelmoxley7787]

@TechnoDad okay and this what you used in the video along with the umic?

[@TechnoDad]

@@michaelmoxley7787 No, we just used the UMIK-1 for all measurements, that way we have consistency.

[@michaelmoxley7787]

@@TechnoDad I thought you used the Audyssey mic for distances and delay though too?

[@michaelmoxley7787]

Okay you used the Audyssey mic at timestamp 19:45. Joe says for levels and delay, but is this the ACM1-X mic or standard Audyssey mic?

[@johnvore]

Looks like we're all going to love this app to customize our systems. Can you explain how it could imporve a Dirac Live room. I run all custom built matching speakers. Dirac made them sound like high dollor speakers. Dirac did make them to flat for my taste. I hade to adjust the curve a little to match my taste. I think we all would love Dirac compared to Magic Beans.

[@TechnoDad]

What AVR do you have?

[@johnvore]

I had a Onkyo RZ50, but I sent it back. I found a Yamaha a6a for 1200.00. It has 3 Year Protection Plan, Yamaha Factory Refurbished.@@TechnoDad

[@wendellwendellb339]

Well Joe, I had asked you about turning the crossover all the way up on my subs, and letting the AVR do the processing. I recalibrated my system, and with that adjustment to the subs, I hear a significant difference that I didn’t hear before. RP1 really jumped out. Thank you for that! Anything else I need to do?

[@janthomassrensen1065]

Remember to set the LFE channel to 120hz instead of 80. If you haven´t done so already. If You have set your mains to small the crossover to subs should be 80hz, but the LFE channel needs to go up to 120hz., I make it sound more confusing than it really is

[@wendellwendellb339]

@@janthomassrensen1065 In my AVR, it is set at 120, I never changed it.

[@DjBlaaack]

Definitely looking forward to this app now.

[@TechnoDad]

It's pretty great!

[@satyajitroy726]

Love from 🇮🇳 watched your full 38mins 😘

[@TechnoDad]

Thank you so much!

[@Viettzz]

At 32:10, anyone knows what was that Demo called? thx

[@TechnoDad]

Yup! That’s Audiosphere, my favorite from the 2016 Dolby Atmos Demo Disc.

[@alejandroaguilar9038]

GUYS CAN I GET THE LINKS FOR ALL THE DEMO VIDS THEY USE ? @32:32 ?

[@TechnoDad]

Hi! That specific one is called 'Audiosphere' on the Dolby Atmos Demo disc from 2016. We also used the Amaze demo from that same disc. The other was Dune 2021.

[@hddanman7263]

What speakers are those monoprice??

[@TechnoDad]

Yes, T6 towers and C6 Center.

[@Jayj070523]

Dang great overview of the app, if it has the same level of polish as your spatial toolkit, this will be an amazing tool. Love the spatial toolkit. Getting my crossover right was a godsend.

[@TechnoDad]

Thanks. Jay! The app has been in development for over a year and I’m certain many will enjoy the change in their setup.

[@Jayj070523]

@@TechnoDadcan’t wait for the beta, fingers crossed, or when it’s available for purchase on iOS.

[@keithslade1493]

Can't wait to use those magic beans !!!

[@chrisohrling149]

Hi I have a question for you and I like to know what brand name blu Ray player you are using

[@TechnoDad]

I am using the LG UBK90 - amzn.to/3Np5HpQ

[@chrisohrling149]

@@TechnoDad ok thank you for letting me know because I am having trouble with my blu ray player and says can't operate disc

[@TechnoDad]

@@chrisohrling149 No problem!

[@ealanosborne]

Yeah, dude…that bass was so tight after EQ. 🤘 Shameless plug with the Magic Beans app, but hot damn, I can’t wait until it drops!! 🙌🌈

[@TechnoDad]

Boom boom boom! I can’t wait to do some more binaural comparisons.

[@Audiomainia2310]

Yo guys - can I download to Dirac Live on my Onkyo RZ-50? This shit looks awesome guys.

[@TechnoDad]

There is a way to move settings over via 10 band eq if the Onkyo has that. I do know that with Dirac on, you are limited in what settings you can change.

[@mcjonner]

Im not sure what the difference is between dirac, audyssey and this? Dirac and audyssey are room dependant as well and can tweak the curves to what you like

[@TechnoDad]

Check out Joe’s video of pre and post in binaural. Be sure to use headphones - kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4ilfJyeq6d1l6Msi=XnVcN-cfWrvokNPn

[@joentell]

Dirac has updated their software to adjust the bass and treble of their target curves. They are room and speaker dependent, but they have to figure out what the speaker is doing using other methods since they don't measure nearfield. I think this method is superior.

[@mcjonner]

@@joentell ok thank you I appreciate the reply

[@simarjitsingh9975]

You guys are amazing

[@TechnoDad]

Just doing what we do best!

[@keepingupwiththejones2933]

Love seeing Joe and Channa together . ❤❤❤

[@TechnoDad]

This was a lot of fun!

[@BuffSquadBigBenni]

Nice app, Joe! What determines the target curve? How is it calculated?

[@joentell]

I'm about to upload a video on my channel that goes more in-depth about that.

[@BuffSquadBigBenni]

@@joentell sounds great man. That app will be a game changer for many! Good job Joe.

[@anonymousmc7727]

They haven’t even begun 😂😂

[@ebarbie5016]

Interesting calibration approach. However, I don't think moving the mic while taking measurements is a good idea. It can raise background noise due to air friction and cause measurement errors, especially phase errors due to a Doppler effect. Better take 3 steady measurements at different heights and let the app take the average. I also recommend lowering the TV's height and increasing the front height distance. You could also add rear heights hanging from the ceiling. Is this app available online already?

[@joentell]

I've done many MMM and I get reliable and repeatable results. I often compare measurements taken from a Klippel NFS of the same speaker to ensure the method is good. I was taught this method from Charles Sprinkle, the lead designer from Kali Audio. Air friction is negligible considering the distance and volume of the speaker playing the pink noise. Doppler is accounted for via the spatial average. I hear what you're saying though and I appreciate the feedback. Static sweeps also have their disadvantages in that mic placement will have a huge effect on the measurement. It's also slow and prone to user error. Nothing is perfect, but I find MMM the most repeatable.

[@toddshagena4360]

That is exactly what I was thinking, that moving the mic quickly would add air friction distortion to the measurements. Glad you clarified that!

[@xxxxbenekxxxx6114]

I’m very excited and interested. How do you connect the Umik-1 with your iPhone?

[@joentell]

The newer ones accept USB-C. The older ones need a specific adapter to Lightning.

[@xxxxbenekxxxx6114]

And that’s it? Cool.

[@danmaier2077]

Hi, great video! I'm already waiting for the app! Where did you get the Dolby Atmos sound demo? Thank you, greetings from Austria (Europe)

[@TechnoDad]

I ripped the demos from the 2016 Dolby Atmos Demo Disc.

[@danmaier2077]

@@TechnoDad OK, thank you for the info 🙏

[@danmaier2077]

@@TechnoDad It's very sad that I can't get the Dolby Atmos Demo Disc anywhere in Europe! I just looked on the Internet and nothing.

[@Coffeedad]

What are the 2 height speakers?

[@TechnoDad]

Monolith THX Satellite - amzn.to/3uW40Kb

[@Coffeedad]

So do those sound kinda good. Pretty good, or really good?

[@stackoverflow8260]

Do you have to do any doppler corrections because the mic is moving?

[@TechnoDad]

No, because it’s taking a spatial average using pink noise, this is not a sweep.

[@stackoverflow8260]

@TechnoDad I see what you're saying, but I'm not convinced 100% yet! Need to think about it.. somehow, the spatial averaging of pink noise is supposed to cancel the doppler effect?

[@stackoverflow8260]

@TechnoDad a simple experiment to confirm this is use your Coaxial speaker and just measure it like your measuring it currently..and then hookup the microphone to a rig/motor that will make sure to move the mic strictly in a plane and no relative motion w.r.t on axis ..and compare the response

[@joentell]

It might help to consider that the Doppler effect is typically related to the source moving at a high rate of speed. The speaker is static, and the mic is moving at a relatively slow speed. Also, consider that pink noise is playing all frequencies at equal energy per octave continuously, unlike a sweep where the mic and speaker are required to remain static throughout the entire sweep. You can test this for yourself. Play various single test tones at various frequencies and move a mic around. You will only see a decrease in SPL, but not a left or right shift in frequency. Hope that helps.@@stackoverflow8260

[@michaelburton5198]

Gotta Make More Videos About The Magic Beans And What You Need With The Disc Ect.Ect In My Case, I Would Love To See 👀 1 Vs Audyssey Calibration????

[@joentell]

We can make that video comparison. I have Dirac Live, Dirac Live with Bass Control, and Dirac ART as well

[@TechnoDad]

Will do!

[@djradman6794]

Nice what movie is that

[@TechnoDad]

Dune - The remake from 2021

[@keepingupwiththejones2933]

Cohesive is a great way to describe when all the speakers disappear and you just experience the sound moving around the room.

[@TechnoDad]

That's right! We WANT cohesion and what we don't want is SEPARATION ;) but shhhh! Don't tell the "experts"...

[@cheekster777]

Thanks guys.

[@TechnoDad]

Thank you, Cheekster!

[@user-lv3gl5pt9z]

Awesome. Techno what Home theater receiver are you using plz

[@TechnoDad]

Denon AVR-X6700H - amzn.to/41jQbRL - It's on a huge sale since they announced the newer X6800H.

[@ukspawn666]

the way its explained here is much better Joe N Tell.

[@TechnoDad]

Nice!

[@ukspawn666]

@TechnoDad i now get what he means by "a personal targrt curve" based on your room and speaker combo and personal taste etc. I was hung up on calling it a target curve that's generated vs a correction that's generated but I see its just usage of a word that was confusing. Sorry Joe for misunderstanding but it was confusing I the other video.

[@michaelk_ostalb]

Totaly Insane 🤪❤️

[@TechnoDad]

Yup!