my honest opinion on BTS Permission to Dance

[@neon2319]

Most of us got into bts because of songs like blood, sweat and tears, fire, mic drop, ect. personally I'm not very fond of their recent English singles as I find them too cheesy and common sounding but I respect the fact that they're experimenting around and want to try something new

[@RAEMUSE]

this is exactly what I said earlier. I got into bts because of fake love and bs&t eras so I'm not the biggest fan of their recent releases

[@pete3128]

Same here... But at this point i dont feel like the company is experimenting anymore.. Their painfully obvious goal to please & dominate western charts n awards is putting me off after 3 songs..

[@juliasvyrydova7222]

It's honestly sad, I don't like new song at all, it's almost unreal that this is the same group that created a masterpiece such as blood, sweat and tears. But then again, it shows that sometimes with more popularity the less creativity and quality comes with it. I think map of the soul was amazing, but for me 2015-2016 were the best years in terms of music.

[@wellwhatever4518]

Trueee. I rlly rlly didn’t like any of their English songs. They don’t sound like themselves in them and like what about my rap line?😭😭

[@newtscamander1005]

@@wellwhatever4518 Guys, that's what makes them successful. You can't just stay with the same concept you've done. Just like past and future, you can't never stay in the past. You've to move on. You've to continue to grow as an artist.

[@misbabhat9384]

I am so sick of those people forcing some armies to like the PTD like literally we cant like everything. We are humans too. We should not disrespect BTS as some dumbass people are doing but if we dont like it its okay just dont hate on the boys. Butter was my type, on first listen I fell like omg

[@ifapramoe]

Yes true but most of the times they add unnecessary comments that question BTS' artistry or authenticity which is a weird behavior... acting as if they know what's best for BTS...

[@pierinabulnes]

Same

[@Noseungmin_nolife]

This is true, like I have seen so many army’s saying that you are toxic because you don’t like PTD. Us humans have different taste. I also agree that you shouldn’t put hate on someone for liking the song because with this comeback, it was both ways.

[@tofu6274]

Yeaㅠ_ㅠi rly thought I was the only one

[@lisaaandhobiii5369]

Thank you for pointng that out I felt like a bad army just cuz I didn't like it as much

[@RAEMUSE]

ptd wasn't my cup of tea but the mv was so fun and cute

[@sereneblossom2951]

see thats what i said when it dropped and now im dancing like theres no tomorrow💀😌

[@adrianayeager]

It is the meaning behind it that makes it all worth it

[@monicaphares5030]

@@adrianayeager definitely

[@legendarystan89]

I thought you liked it cuz you commented on the official mv and said "BTS are making are summer better!" But its okay

[@RAEMUSE]

@@legendarystan89 i'm an army so of course i would comment something supportive on their music video ♡ but that doesn't mean I should like every single they put out. Thanks.

[@robba304]

i am an army since fire era and i liked every comeback but i have to admit i don't like it this time but i respect their hardwork on the song but the moment i heard it i felt like it was a song by the jonas brothers or highschool musical and not bts but this just my opinion and i hope their next comeback will be a Korean kpop song cuz there is a reason why a lot of us prefer kpop over pop

[@slumphearts]

yesss i completely agree with everything u said

[@silverdove9911]

That last take is facts and nothing else.

[@captainlevi7188]

not the HSM slender.....HSM songs are BOP.

[@kooscherries]

This was literally supposed to be a fun present for Armys

[@RAEMUSE]

Agreed

[@raspberry4782]

Yall allowed to not liking ptd, its literally ok. But some people always complaning everything on every bts comeback. twitter is the worst. They be complaining abt everything, i can't even enjoy the song. Anyway, i love you videos!

[@Umi_luv]

I don’t even have Twitter and still know that it’s toxic af 😕

[@kirax9880]

It’s toxic also in a way if anyone has a bad opinion on it they’d be hounded and forced to delete the tweet

[@Michaelhehe]

ive seen some "armys" unstanning and hating bts 😭

[@Michaelhehe]

like i saw a tweet hating bts but when i looked at their other tweets thay were like " i unstanned bts blah blah blah"

[@euphoririss]

I used to have Twitter but I deactivated because there is ALOT of toxicity on Twitter, people come at you for everything and fandoms are constantly attacking each other.

[@ohteeseven7571]

I personally liked butter more at first listen but PTD issa good song and I don't mind it being in english either. It sounded very nostalgic and defs gave me highschool musical vibes near the end

[@ohteeseven7571]

@Amanda Syifa Budiman lmao when you remember lemme know

[@katblanco9239]

@Amanda Syifa Budiman The can’t stop the feeling song 😂 bc it does lowkey sound like that song

[@btsot7army112]

What u are talkinv It's not high school mv It's Better than butter and life goes on mv What u want they always shoot a video in close room by using props and 3d wallpapers that look so cheap I really butter life goes on concept And that mv is such rich shoot

[@liz2071]

@@btsot7army112 exactly the mv looked so lively as if we are right there and enjoying it with them.. people are lacking it.. the meaning behind this song is much more incredible and realistic than the past ones 😭 💜

[@bomgu2261]

@@liz2071 people are allowed to have opinions not everyone is going to like everything and people ar gonna prefer stuff get over it

[@flwrden]

in my opinion, ptd's not my kind of vibe. the song's very similar to dynamite and butter and i honestly don't really like super happy and fun songs that much. but, i still appreciate the songs they put out nevertheless because i am a supportive fan. the thing is, ptd's autotune ain't it. it was painfully obnoxious and i believe the overuse of it was not needed at all. bts are INSANELY talented singers. the excessive use of autotune overshadows their natural voices so much to the point where it ruins the whole song. i have no problem with autotune overall, but when it ruins the quality of a song, it bothers me so much. i hope bighit could quit playing around with bts' pure talent by doing sh*t like this.

[@peanutbutter7025]

You just said everything I thought in one comment. I really like bts and I'm proud to say that I'm an army but this is just not my type of music I listen to from Bts. This is just my opinion.

[@meeksimeeks]

It makes me sad how some ARMYs are defending the song saying, "get over it, it's just a filler song". And that's how you know the quality is declining, because I never imagined a BTS song being called a "filler" track. Back then, even just the comeback trailers they were putting out were topnotch bangers (Never Mind, Boy Meets Evil, Singularity, Serendipity, etc) as well as their b-sides. It used to be that every BTS concept was intricately put together and that's what made them stand out. Like, you cannot deny the level of effort whether you're a fan or not. Now it's like they're just putting out singles without much thought on the quality because they know ARMYs are gonna stream the hell out of it just because of BTS. Before, their songs get acclaim because they were undeniably GOOD, but recently I feel like they're relying more on hype instead of making an actual BOP that I know BTS had proven in the past they're more than capable of doing. I don't put the blame solely on BTS, but I think this has a lot to do with the record label they're affiliated with in the US. One other example I can think of is CL when she tried to debut in the States. Her English single has nothing on her Korean songs. It's as if to be a "successful" pop artist in the US market you have to dumb down your songs and make them sound generic... I just can't believe that the group that gave us the iconic MMA 2019 performance is the same group dancing to this lackluster teeny bopper song with cheesy lyrics. I just couldn't bring myself to like this song because I know BTS is better than this.

[@Linkfan1989]

A theory i have is they lost a little passion for music. Maybe it'll come back but currently I think their music sounds like they're just doing it because they have to. I hope they can get some passion back

[@melissak8892]

I love this comment, esp the "filler song" part, and I feel the same. There are a few of bts songs that I don't 100 percent love, but they are still above and beyond PTD in quality. This is the first one that I truly dislile.

[@prammagunio9136]

Yes,yes, yes to this comment! That filler remark irks my spirit because it’s essentially armys implying that the song is not worthy of being taken serious and therefore can afford to lack in quality. These small subtleties of armys just undermining BTS is just so sad to see. Specifically given how much time and devotion went into creating every single song during the HYYH, Wings and Tear era. We use to be a fandom with high, elite expectations for BTS’ music. And now we’re actually referring to their songs as fillers…

[@meeksimeeks]

@@Linkfan1989 Yeah.. I think it's because they have less creative control on top of the pressure they're constantly experiencing because of their status... I'm more excited for the mixtapes than their comebacks now tbh.

[@meeksimeeks]

@@melissak8892 Same sentiments. I couldn't even get through the whole song... :( I know BTS is known for trying out new things in terms of music style but I feel like the latest comebacks isn't really the direction they wanted but was put upon them by the label. It just doesn't have that "BTS flavor"... Idk how else to put it.

[@tatafromthehood5573]

Some of y'all armys need to realize you can be a fan of someone and dislike some of their songs

[@btsluvs8683]

I really liked the song it was cheerful but i respect everyone opion everyone had their own music taste

[@niroshakhan7836]

Love this song!!! We all need something like this at the moment to live a little and cheer up, after last year's worst pandemic...BTS is no. 1 in the world !

[@nurulazzahiyah247]

I get that all armies miss BTS old songs. Its okay to miss them. For me, PTD is a good song because it remind me of my childhood days. Sometimes, we need some positivity and relatable song in our life. I dont care what language the song is as long as the song is a good.

[@bpblinks4eva513]

Not some of y'all saying that "I miss the old BTS" like sure there's nothing wrong with that. Look y'all can go watch the old MV of them. It's still there you know? You guys act like HYBE has deleted all BTS old MV lmao

[@dynamixx4603]

Ikr

[@sudeepks6305]

Yeah I mean evolution and change is a common process in the world... They have to change can't be the same whole time

[@lovelisoo4ever830]

👍

[@Hanabi_Tabun7193]

Hello there, I would kind of like to have a formal discussion with you on this. About "bringing back the old BTS", to be honest, I think it's hilarious to put it that way. What they really want(I think since I didn't quite as well enjoy their recent releases either, and that's how I felt, but PTD is something I adore. )is the quality of the music to be better, I don't know if you'd think this way, but from my point of view, IDOL, FAKE LOVE, SPRING DAY, FIRE, BS&T etc were all well-produced comparatively with PTD, DYNAMITE, and BUTTER. Also, about the thing "If you want that kind of style, just go back to those m/vs and listen to them." Well, I disagree with this statement, fans are here not ONLY because they love the artists, but for the MUSIC they think they prefer and like, and want to see more of it, so yeah they can request them for it, I mean it isn't at all bad to experiment with new things, and I am sure ARMYs would love to see different sides of them. That's why I think BTS should pay just a bit more attention to their fans(Yes, they already do, but well... Please read a bit more, sorry!), as you can see they've been trying to cheer up everyone through this dreadful and exhausting pandemic. They hadn't done that BEFORE, and you can observe that they had mostly concentrated on storyline all the other times until! DYNAMITE... So, I guess, two things they(ARMYs) want to see MORE from BTS : 1st. Quality of the music being better. 2nd. Storyline based content. I am extremely sorry, if you thought I was trying to hate on BTS, it might "seem" like it since I am not part of the ARMY, but I love a good talk about the production of music. 💙

[@lovelisoo4ever830]

@@Hanabi_Tabun7193 ♥

[@abcd-mo5mo]

i actually love this song because the rapline got to show off their vocals. cause people constanly say the rapline cant sing (even tho there’s proof). so now that its in a title track people cant try and complain ☺️

[@gthanavi1597]

YESSS

[@katrinar6712]

Yoongi once said he is practicing signing...so I'm here to support them in whatever they want to try.

[@chinmayeedharmadhikari2157]

heavily autotuned

[@abcd-mo5mo]

@@chinmayeedharmadhikari2157 but in the live stage they still sounded very similar to the song so…

[@chinmayeedharmadhikari2157]

@@abcd-mo5mo The vocals for the live performance were definitely pre-recorded and thus autotuned. If you watch BTS BUTTER STAGE CAM you will understand how they record their performances, as the lip sync is clearly visible in that video.Even if this (PTD) was a live performance my guess is that they lip-synced.

[@immasavage341]

I understand they’re planning to take another shot at Grammys. As an army I support that. But I wish they make another comeback with a Korean song 😢 I find their English songs too cheesy

[@minnicha_aeri9624]

This is probably going to be seen as a hate comment but I'm trying to be kind and honest as possible because I'm a casual listener of BTS and I want their music to get better. I get it. ARMYs are doing what they want. But tbh they just eat up whatever their fave is putting out even if it's generic and mediocre. They're blinded by their love to BTS that ARMYs fail to criticize their music quality though it's nowadays so forgettable. They praise everything they're putting out that they forget "criticism" is an important job of being a fan. And that's why BTS just keeps on making more less-quality (or if I may say, flop) music. ARMYs, if you're actually a fan of this group then you want them to grow right? Why don't you wake up in the mediocrity of their new music and recognize it so they can go back to making good music? Don't tolerate the genericness of their new music if you want them to be big in the Western audience and have a Grammy! I personally want BTS to leave a mark in the music industry, but if they keep making music this way, they won't be icons and therefore just be trendsetters that are forgotten in a couple of years. This is why ARMYs need to learn how to be critics of their fave's music (address the flaws of their songs not just point out the strengths of their music) and not just cult worship them all the way through. Your mass streaming and mass buying has never and never will build an iconic masterpiece they're going to be remembered for. Ctto Pls dont hate me🥺😭

[@melissak8892]

You are so right. I wish the fans would be a bit more honest in their feedback

[@teamorevilover2863]

AGREEEE

[@smrkml537]

Yep! I completely agree.

[@goventurefarbeyondtheshore5438]

Girll I feel you. BTS with songs like PTD, Butter -this just ain't BTS. I'll call these songs overhyped and overrated. Like BTS are at this point in their career where they can literally make anything and it can still top charts cus you know the fandom. I mean I seriously worry that they're living in some ivory tower or smth with all the praises and no criticism of these songs. They really need to know this. Armys really need to put their honest opinion in front of them but they won't cause they behave like they have to have to like everything under this sun with respect to BTS. :/

[@melissak8892]

@@goventurefarbeyondtheshore5438 bts should spend less time rubbing elbows with politicians and more time creating good music. I'm losing my adoration for them big time.

[@real_-_facts]

They are focusing too much in English song and I don't like it.I like their korean songs alot more

[@nuellalaryea9775]

Mtchewww... wo ho fi bi

[@abenaphylis1149]

Enti Mongyai gyimigyimiiiiiee no eiii

[@nuellalaryea9775]

@@abenaphylis1149 😂😂eii herh wa ba ha

[@abenaphylis1149]

@@nuellalaryea9775 aa abufusem aakwa

[@melissaaa1121]

it was only 3 songs and their next comeback will probably be Korean or mixed that’s my thoughts because Bts are k-pop

[@beccabutterfly892]

I actually barely made it through the first verse at first and forced myself through the rest... absolutely hate it

[@subbusonga9923]

Me too

[@dssingh1453]

it ok if u don't like as everthing the produce is not going to be ur cup of tea but hating them for just one song is just a really narrow minded thing

[@beccabutterfly892]

@@dssingh1453 when did I say I hated BTS?

[@kanikasingh3984]

@@dssingh1453 lol first read the comment properly 😂

[@melissak8892]

I feel the same way! The song is simply so annoying. It's the only song of theirs that I feel that way about too. But I still love bts and am looking forward to what they do next.

[@flowerseoks59]

Tbh the song didn’t sit well with me but maybe I need more listens and I agree. Bts did a lot of hard work for this masterpiece and I respect Bts for putting in their hard work for music.

[@shinigamiseven]

I'm gonna be honest and say that with every new english release i liked their song less. I love bts to death and i wanna like ptd so bad but i cant. I loved dynamite, an absolute bop, butter was meh and ptd was... I'm glad the boys enjoyed making ptd tho. It's not my cup of tea but im glad they had fun. I hope for a dark concept in the next comeback bcuz this feel good concept is getting boring.

[@aratithaly5518]

Yes. We’ve had enough of the feel good concept!

[@rogerrabbitswife]

same

[@birch8109]

I agree.

[@shinigamiseven]

@@sreedevipk2049 they will make music that they like of course, however if they like it, it doesn't mean that the GENERAL production of the song is good.

[@shinigamiseven]

@@sreedevipk2049 yeah the general production of them wasn't good?? Expect dynamite and the chorua of butter. Also it's not bcuz I don't like them, it's because it is a bad production. I go to a musical school btw. Also what does be has to do with this? Songa on be were good.

[@mercy2386]

I dont get why people are complaining they literally only have 3 songs in English and by the way Bts and ARMY have a relationship in which we build and support each other. They try their level best to comfort and energize us. I really think we shoulld trust and support them they're probably aiming bigger than what we expect such as Grammy. Be supportive of them please I know you miss their Korean songs and so do I but every thing has it's own Era. I love their new song and hope it grows on you all eventually.

[@Michelle__.]

The thing is the 3 songs are too similar yes they are experiencing but there is a reason why kpop stans prefer recent pop songs. Kpop is supposed to stand out.

[@bbievi]

I feel like it’s going to grow on me tbh but armys disappointed me with how they acted, they are acting very disrespectful and ungrateful on TikTok

[@Umi_luv]

Bruh 💀 are these even army’s? Cuz a real army won’t do this in my opinion

[@monicaphares5030]

The meaning behind this song is genuine, beautiful, and a true gift that should be appreciated.

[@bay_armies]

Purrrr ❤️

[@monicaphares5030]

@STAN JENSOO I think the meaning on it is deeper than you think with the different levels and different people and even the sign language I think this song will resonate with a lot of people even though it may not be as in depth dance wise as some of their other songs. I've been following them for years and I guess the thing I really like about them is their vast versatility and the fact that they don't stay in just one particular Lane that's why they're so popular all around the world. And that's good because otherwise we would have never had a chance to know them in all these different places. Much respect though to you

[@huh5137]

How is it deep? What's the storyline?

[@monicaphares5030]

@@huh5137 The message is a message of hope for all different kinds of people. Old, young, deaf, different nationalities, were all in this together. The past 2 years have been tough with covid but there is hope for the future. To not stop with joy, dancing no matter who you are for fun. To see the happiness still to be had and to appreciate one another. BTS are all about reaching all people being kind to one another and building one another up. Not tearing one another down. The genuine beauty of this song and video some people will not appreciate. But we need more songs like this.

[@rinnie4122]

Much appreciated, but that doesn't mean that people are obligated to like it

[@yashvisolanki5412]

I loved Permission to Dance a lot, but I miss their Korean discography a lot. After all, the k in k-pop is there for a reason

[@moonchild438]

But BTS said they don't fit in k-pop anymore

[@Lisaonda-xg]

@@moonchild438 when did they say that??

[@moonchild438]

Check out Grammy and rolling stone interview

[@rose-rv5yz]

@@moonchild438 I think they will definitely still make Korean music, but they are also comfortable now in making music completely in English.

[@yashvisolanki5412]

@@mi6155 you have a point-

[@srilatac4044]

I feel like ARMY gets too over excited and nervous about the songs that makes the song less enjoyable? I feel like we need to stop expecting so much from them like just because they are BTS doesn't mean they have to be perfect. If you don't like the song then it's ok but don't complain about it. International fans complained about not being able to sing with the Korean lyrics earlier and understand it and now your complaining about something else? Don't be so expectant and ruin the vibe of others. Don't like it , it ok but do not go around nagging about it. And compare the 3 English songs to the 200 korean songs they have..you really think they are becoming westernised? Like they released 3 songs and in a spilt second people forgot all the other songs they have. Old BTS stans Bangpd has stepped into production again.. we're soon getting some bangers besties.

[@themafiacornsalad291]

Fr. Like ofc everyone is free to state their opinions and I respect that, but there are sooo many other kpop groups with tons of songs with more English than Korean or just English all together but I’ve never seen anyone complain about them. Like it’s 3 songs… 3. Songs. 🙃

[@wellwhatever4518]

Well i don’t think army ever complained about the song being in Korean or English. It’s the music and lyrics in general. And having opinions about S thing does not mean complaining. I think I have the right to not like a song bts releases even tho I still love them💜💜💜

[@srilatac4044]

@@wellwhatever4518 I did say it's fine to not like all the songs they make but I really think people are taking this song for granted. The song has alot of meaning in it and people are turning a blind eye on it because they want korean songs. The song is about the disability you know? It's also about post pandemic and about how all the races went through the situation together. The dances are all about differently abled people and how they cope up with life. There are many references in the mv too. The lyrics are all hopeful ones with a happy vibe. Out of all the three English songs , this makes the most sense. There is also a book about "Permission to dance" which is about letting go of self criticism and unrealistic comparisons and experiencing self love. They haven't lost their meaningful messages it's just that people are only focusing on the fact that the song is not in Korean and shit. I agree people may not like the genre but the song is very meaningful. Edit: wdym by "the s thing"?

[@bomgu2261]

Yeah I agree but I think nowadays a lot of armys dont really care what language its in we just want there older sound back

[@themafiacornsalad291]

@@bomgu2261 yeah it seems that way. But tbh as much as I love their old sound I absolutely love to see them try different things. And sometimes I don’t understand what army mean when they say “older sound” because I swear these boys do every genre of music like I can name some top 5 famous songs by them that sound nothing like other musically speaking. Even yoongi said it himself “I’m too big to fit in the kpop category”

[@themafiacornsalad291]

Jokes on me ig I’m a sucker for these kind of songs im just gonna yeehaw myself over to bangtan and dance my heart out. gonna be bopping out to this in my kitchen acting like im in highschool musical living my best life 🤷‍♀️🕺💃🕺💃💃

[@Umi_luv]

Lmaooo you sound like a funny person

[@jeonskookiee8366]

I love u lmaoo same here😭💜

[@monicaphares5030]

Yesssssz

[@modeltae2257]

Say it louder 😂😂😂😂😂

[@rjstandsforrapjin]

Lmaoo

[@shubhodeepsergeant_maz9026]

Ya'll don't know the music transition, BTS have evolved that's why their music is different. Over the years they have done variety's of genres with concepts like youth, self-love, introspection etc. This song is a relief to the end of Covid-19, the lyrics are meaningful, "When we fall, we know how to land" is the best line. The M/V shows all races and all ages show the same love to each other

[@yashvisolanki5412]

And the way how everyone took of their masks when the Mv was nearing the end proved it further

[@Sweetener044]

End of Covid-19? Did I miss something?

[@shubhodeepsergeant_maz9026]

@@Sweetener044 Its a phrase dude

[@yashvisolanki5412]

@@Sweetener044 It's for when Covid actually ends, which I believe, is something in the near future

[@orangeworm]

@@yashvisolanki5412 i wouldn't say it's near but yes it is something everyone hopes for in the future. it would be unrealistic to say the pandemic will be over, what with the different vaccination situations in every country (e.g. Thai people facing police brutality from protesting for better vaccination programme, a lot of people dying untreated etc) and some positive cases coming back every once in awhile even for the more stable countries. Covid-19 will also probably never end, like WHO said, it would likely become as common as the flu and we will have to continue dealing with it. just wanted to add on.

[@sunnihope2866]

The problem about permission to dance is not that it is in English. The problem is that they started to lose their BTS signature: deep lyrics, rap and detail oriented MV‘s with storytelling. They should not forget that millions of people became an army because of these 3 things. I really don’t want them to win an award for this song since it doesn’t showcase their real talent and artistic side.Their dignity as musicians will doubted in the future if a song like ptd will win a grammy award. I really don’t want this to happen. They should win a grammy award for masterpieces like fake love, black swan, spring day, ON, Mic Drop, blood sweat and tears, I need u...These and much more were all songs that underlined BTS uniqueness and weren’t just created out of desperation for grammys.

[@ladiva7631]

Preach! The problem is not the English language, it's their creativity and originality that they lost lately.

[@sunnihope2866]

@@ladiva7631 Exactly! I only listen to their old songs these days. If they continue to release songs like butter, ptd I will probably unstan. But I will still listen to the mixtapes of the rap line. I'm super excited for J-Hope's mixtape I'm pretty sure that it will be bomb. BTS rap line never disappoints!

[@ladiva7631]

@@sunnihope2866 Guess what? This is exactly what I told my sister and she was about to break my neck for talking about unstaning BTS. I'm ARMY since 2018 but if they keep on with this generic direction, I'm just gonna leave. And yeah, can't wait for the mixtapes.

[@rukiaoutsold]

"lose their BTS signature" they literally released a LOT of the said "BTS signature" songs aside from their 3 english songs in 2020-2021. not everything has to have a deep meaning, they literally made these songs in order for ARMYs to be happy during this pandemic. "i don't want them to win an award for this song because it doesn't showcase their real talent" are you telling me that they practiced for hours to make these songs for us just for you to say that??? most of the members aren't good at speaking in english so this was quite challenging for them, besides if singing, dancing, rapping, producing, and composing isn't their real talent then what is?? "they should win grammy awards for masterpieces ....." are you forgetting that the grammys is r4c1st and x3n0ph0bic??? of course the chance of winning a grammy award with a korean song would be a challenge.

[@sunnihope2866]

@@rukiaoutsold You should learn to read a comment properly before attacking someone. I clearly said that the problem is NOT that the song ptd is in English. It doesn’t matter in which language they’re speaking since we all speak the same language: MUSIC. I only said that I didn’t like permission to dance and not their whole songs from 2020 and 2021. I don’t know where you got that from??? I loved the album map of the soul 7 and Be was also amazing. I actually really liked dynamite since it was refreshing and a happy song. But I just don’t like their newest release: butter and ptd. For older armys like me, a meaningful song matters. Since that’s the reason why we become an army in the first place. I wan't their songs too have a deep lyrics again and not just some words thrown together too make it a catchy song. I don’t want to listen to dananana and nananana anymore... I always appreciate BTS hard work but can’t you see that ptd was only produced to win the grammy award? They didn’t even wrote the song themselves and the quality is really low. (sadly)

[@corlee1981]

Don’t get me wrong I LOVE BTS and I’ll always be a BTS fan but there current releases haven’t been my favorites. Don’t get me wrong I love how they’re experimenting with different things, but I got into them because of songs like Dope, Run, and Blood Sweat and Tears. It’s just gonna take me a while to settle down with the new English phase that’s going on. But I still love them nonetheless ❤️‍🔥

[@creamkookie5932]

Don’t worry, before you settle down with the pandemic songs, they’ll probably be back with a Korean album by then :)

[@blahblah7684]

Finallyyyy I found an honest review. Ever since I heard the song I was soo unsatisfied with it but everyone else seemed hyping it for no reason (of course the song is good but not the usual bts level) I felt it was just an ordinary song. Hope they come back soon with a bop. btw sorry for my bad English:)

[@tatafromthehood5573]

Same. I like how it's making bts and other people happy, but it wasn't my cup of tea

[@m.syauqiabdurahman2798]

@@tatafromthehood5573 i also like their choice of making more music that hit on western music market I was like Well ok then , But make a great one and the only great one is actually Dynamite (for me) Butter for me is Ok While PTD Well i like some part of it but it's not my cup of tea

[@yashvisolanki5412]

To all those saying it sounds like Ed Sheeran's songs, it's literally co written by him lol

[@mayax2431]

This was the only comeback were i wasn't fangirling as much. I didn't even love if that much at first, i started liking it after listening to it a couple of times. I love how happy they are and the vibes but idk. I appreciate them and their work on it but i pray they go back to only korean songs. Songs like before dynamite came out. 😩

[@jungkooksluna9047]

It's funny how people forget that BTS put out the whole korean album right after dynamite 😒

[@ayui5200]

you sound so xenophobic here.like telling bts to only stick to korean .🙄literally bts started singing in English for their global fan for covid frustration.grow up kid, even a 10 old kid would be more mature then you if it comes to bts.

[@yanale825]

@@ayui5200 Please army let's not fight each other💜. She only said her opinion and it's okay(sorry my english is not good)

[@bomgu2261]

I agree I miss there older sound but idc what language it's in I just want another run but ik were never gonna get that

[@mayax2431]

@@ayui5200 lmao, you sound so dumb tbh. I don't dislike them and i'm not against them speaking english in songs i just prefer them speaking korean. Why? because it's their native language, so they're more comfortable and they're more confident. Their korean songs are deeper because of that. Do i hate their english songs? No, like i said, i love how happy they are and the vibes and i obviously know they are doing it for us, that's why i said i appreciated it. This song grew on me after listening to it a couple of times and i absolutely loved butter and dynamite. I hate fans like you, being rude for no mtf reason when i'm only stating my opinion.🙄

[@BunnyCakes]

I wish they would lay off on the autotune. It's really noticeable the most in PTD. It made hobi's voice sound weird to me :/

[@adrianayeager]

If you rearrange permission to dance it says "stories on pandemic". Yes we miss their korean roots and rap but they always have a meaning behind everything they do.

[@monicaphares5030]

Yes I appreciate that they are wanting to share positive vibes. And if I want to intermix with rap and they're other songs I appreciate that so much too. I respect there versatility

[@tamiwithani]

Stories on pandemic? what does that even mean. You're reaching, sis.

[@notinterestedd]

the song didn't hit nor deliver for me, mv is cute tho so at least it was worth me staying up to watch it but other than that i hope this is their last eng song or song with a throw back pop vibe to it cause...no ❤.

[@gcfgukk]

i don't think the language of the song matters..

[@notinterestedd]

@@gcfgukk it does to me, the lyrics are much simpler and hals @ssed, it was written by ed by like when they do korean songs they go all out and when they do these english songs they have an aim to get awarded or get a grammy or whatever else and it doesn't hit the same, ofc they can do whatever they want but again it's my opinion and how i felt.

[@moonchild438]

Sorry but to me BTS happiness>>>>>>>> anyone s opinion

[@gcfgukk]

@@notinterestedd not liking a song because it's not your style is completely okay but saying things like they've become westernized and make english songs just for western validation isn't okay at all. Out of their entire discography they only have 3 eng songs so idk why it's such a big deal.. they're made it as a fun gift for armys it wasn't supposed to be serious .. they're growing as artists and trying new things

[@notinterestedd]

@@moonchild438 lol good for u

[@a_star_in_galaxy905]

Wow! It is so fascinating to see that how diverse the opinion of armies are. On a good side I feel that it makes BTS experiment with music more but on the other side I feel that it also makes it harder for them to satisfy everyone. Some of us armies might prefer Kpop over pop in general and other might prefer pop sound over kpop sound in general. I am in the latter category. Personally I liked PTD more than Butter and Dynamite. It is such a feel good song and it did make me happy. I liked Butter but it was not a summer song for me. I dont mind them singing in English at all because at the end of the day its just music and I dont care if it is in Korean or Spanish or Japanese or English . But the one thing that I wish for is that instead of releasing English singles I want them to release an English album because I want to listen alot more different sounds and music that BTS can add their essence to and singles restricts them from doing so since singles are generally upbeat songs so that's why people might feel that the music they are releasing is getting repetitive!

[@myuniversitylife6658]

Same I’m shocked after reading some comments

[@a_star_in_galaxy905]

@@myuniversitylife6658 Yeah I was kind of shocked too lol

[@sammyc9810]

Exactlyyyy. I loved PTD and I wish they’d release an English album. Some Armys don’t like the idea, but it would be so cool because they could reach more English fans and it would be something cool to try out.

[@a_star_in_galaxy905]

@@sammyc9810 Yeah it would be a cool thing to add in their versatile discography ! I think most armies( who don't have problem with them singing in English) disliked the fact that all their 3 English songs had similar vibes and I feel that this problem would have been solved if they had released an album instead of a single to satisfy all kinds of taste . I absolutely love PTD btw . The mv always brings a smile on my face and it fills me with positivity which is really needed in times like these where there is so much negativity everywhere

[@Lily-lj4sj]

Sorry i know ppl gonna hate on me but the song is a big no for me... it’s sound like a bad old Disney Channel movie song...

[@camille-yeoncopycat1530]

Being an ARMY that came from the amusement of their somehow dark concepts (Black Swan, Agust D mixtapes, I Need U, BST, including the theories, etc.), this is really not my taste LIKE NEVER in my life, maybe BE and Stay Gold could still be are (but not Your Eyes Tell, I'm sorry). From the three full English songs what i only really liked is Butter maybe bcs of the heavy EDM and the very vibrant concept, hence, I still appreciate the music they make and they're all good, no trash music, maybe I just don't like them bcs i don't relate to them, tho still an ARMY and I str--m PTD. Guyssss str--m more please, the song gets better the more u listen to it I promise y'all

[@camille-yeoncopycat1530]

@@onceanarmytwiceanexo-lthri6126 i like themmm like soo muchh, i could even barely stan other groups, when I'm lonely and mad i just search their names and I'm soothed. Even my friends unstanned them it doesn't affect me, pls don't get me wrong just bcs of my opinion. I'm a music lover and i love almost all genres, there are certain songs I like and they are some that I don't. I like PTD now and like i said it's getting better for me as I listen to it more, I'm even currently "lss"ed by it from str--ming. Kindly read my comment properly before coming at me and giving accusations.

[@camille-yeoncopycat1530]

the "them" I'm referring to are their other music

[@bpblinks4eva513]

This is my favourite English songs from them❤

[@No-one391]

Army since 2014 here, and I really like these songs BTS put out these days. It brings happiness to me. Tho I miss BTS old concept, but these typa songs i really appreciate and love them. Never regret being armys back then until now. I’m proud of them. 💕

[@sid4070]

I think they're albums are bop but released mv are not that much great..like I prefer blue and grey over lgo..I guess they're not in there 20's and they have to evolve.. nowadays almost every group is releasing dark concept..itzy..monstax..stray kids..loona..dream catcher..nct127..so I guess they don't want they're fans to get negative vibes..and they're the ambassador of spreading positivity..I prefer they're r&b songs mostly..and rap line have to get more line's.. because I'm a rapline enthusiastic 😂

[@suscousin7705]

so what you call this song not a vibe or spreading positivity to people?

[@v99ra]

in my opinion all their english singles sound basic and similar to each other i wish they would make songs like interlude: shadow, ma city, bst, mic drop etc. again. i feel like the last time bts made something that felt like ”actual bts” was mots 7. since then it has sounded like theyre just trying to do well on american markets.

[@moonclayground]

PTD is like okay to me, the message behind the song is good. What bothers me is the heavy vocal processing and voice effects. It sounded robotic and artificial at some point.

[@whaliena3108]

Pls, listen to their live performance of this, If the MV sounded artificial and robotic, imagine how much of hard work they might hv put into their live performance to deliver those so called robotics through their natural voice. I'm someone who's been listening to music for the past 22 years or so. Music had lost its glory in 2010 but it's gradually gaining it back through BTS's music.

[@moonclayground]

@@whaliena3108 I've already watched it yesterday.It's fun and all. It reminds me of 'Can't stop the feeling' by Justin Timberlake. I don't think music has lost it's glory in 2010,It depends on what kind of music people listen to.There are still many True musicians out there.

[@aditisingh-fi1mv]

Yes in both dynamite and ptd they went overboard with autotune.If their aim is Grammy they need to put out sone musically superior and sound English song. Most probably if bts and Bruno Mars leave the door open will compete for Grammy both butter and ptd don't stand a chance. This song is good yet generic pop song , nothing unique but still enjoyable.

[@aditisingh-fi1mv]

@@whaliena3108 Music is still glorious problem is commercialised generic singers( not referring to BTS) are dominating and true gems hardly get to shine.

[@dunjasimunovic374]

i didn't like it cause it just sounds like every generic radio song, it doesn't have the bts flavor which sucks but the mv je very nice

[@Real_Jungwon]

I agree with you! Ptd is not my favorite song, but Its such a very cheery song.

[@m.syauqiabdurahman2798]

Yeah It was not a really great song but I appreciate their hard work and the message

[@srilatac4044]

Y'all are allowed to have opinions but saying that BTS's music is declining and they are becoming westernised is very wrong..thats pure disrespect for the work they do. Just because you don't like their recent music doesn't mean they are release trash and people eat it up. Dynamite , butter and ptd are good songs but not their best ones. Y'all need to understand that BTS is not just that k-pop group anymore but they are a global phenomenon right now. They will make music in all the languages possible for them. They only made 3 songs and y'all are changing their nationality and genre. Learn to appreciate , don't complain..your expectations are the only things that fail you. Why don't we stop expecting and start appreciating huh? Did y'all forget mots:7, be , film out ?? They are releasing music like snow flower, bicycle, abyss and Christmas love too right on daily basis right? They are just experimenting more and nothing has changed. Don't make BTS feel like they good enough..no hate to anyone. They are not kpop or pop..they are our Bangtan Sonyeondan. And BTS is the genre not pop or k-pop. And for the people who genuinely don't like it , don't worry bangpd as stepped into production.. WE'RE GETTING SOME BANGERS SOON!!

[@ohteeseven7571]

idk why pple say "they're becoming westernized" when the whole kpop industry is based off the western industry lmao. Hip hop, rnb, pop, edm LITERALLY all from america

[@srilatac4044]

@@ohteeseven7571 I really feel like bts is the most relevant k-pop group right now. They have been releasing new concepts and genres everytime they comeback and now look at people saying,"they're music is declining". They are one of the most versatile artists I've known but we cannot have high expectations all the time. They are doing their best , bighit is overworking them and I think they need a break

[@kaylahowell5705]

This is so well said

[@小说-g6j]

eh its more based on black culture

[@srilatac4044]

@@小说-g6j what how??

[@MarietaHolandesa]

I agree. I miss BTS power, rapping parts and the beautiful corean language (english so boring) . My favourite BTS song is ON. But this one is a collaboration with others compositors, I understand could be a great hit. Anyway they look gorgeous and I love the sign language in the dance movements!!

[@aratithaly5518]

My favorite song is On too

[@JustAGame0209]

From Dynamite to Butter to Permission to Dance. What happened BTS?

[@yunyunn385]

Tbh fr me it didnt really matter whether the song was in english or not .It just wasnt my type of song n becuz I couldn't even differentiate their voices due to the autotune . I'm not saying autotune is bad , in fact sometimes autotune can make a song sound even better but fr ptd there was just too much excessive autotune . Plus it wasn't very memorable (for me) as I couldn't even remember a single thing after hearing it.

[@shivanimahesh4335]

Me toooo😱

[@birch8109]

all i remember is them saying walk the walk

[@abc...9794]

In my opinion (PLEASE DO NOT HATE ON ME), all 3 of the English songs were pretty disappointing, but PTD was literally a cheesy Disney channel song like wtf- The MV for PTD was very random in my honest opinion & IDK about u guys but if they're gonna continue releasing songs like this then I'm out (sorry). It's completely fine to do songs in English and try to reach out to people in the US just like most K-pop groups and artists have Japanese songs and albums to reach out to their Japanese audience but the thing is, all 3 songs sound the same to me (except for butter but it did have a similar vibe to the other 2). The thing is that literally every Japanese release sounds different from the one before it which makes them unique. I don't have a problem with them doing songs that sound similar, I have a problem when it's done too many times to the point where you know that it's gonna be the same as the other songs just by seeing 1 teaser photo.

[@Jeonkookie_sora1]

I completely agree with all your points. I’m a big army but I think they’re trying too hard to please the American industry

[@sudeepks6305]

BTS put this song out for people to cheer up.. I also didn't like it more than butter but at this point I'm not worried of awards or views.. The song is happy BTS is happy world is happy ☺

[@jiwonology1262]

"they did it for army you're so ungrateful for not liking it" some people really forget that bts makes music for a living????#$&(@ even FANS don't have to like everything about what their faves puts out. i love bts because i know they're talented and i know that they make/made music that i really resonated with. PTD wasn't one of them and that's okay. i promise you no one is holding a g*n to your head just so you like a mere song. edit: also, news flash, they're artists. their work is going to be criticized by people who aren't armys anyway so the "they did it for army" isn't really a good argument. if someone thinks a song is bad, they're gonna think it's bad even if it's directed towards fans.

[@paulad.r.7914]

(SORRY FOR THE LONG ASS COMMENT xd) I mean, i completely understand and respect if some people don't like it cause it's not their taste, but idk some armys were expecting some sort of bs&t/fake love vibes and i don't get it. The song it's a gift for army's birthday, so of couse the song should be happy and fun. English?? i think it was obvious, it's the "international lenguage" after all, bts wants as many fans as possible to understand the song and connect with it, they even added sign language in the choreo too. I feel a lot of people were complaining about how bts isn't the same anymore because they released two english (pop) songs in a row, like please- When are we going to understand bts've never had a specific music style, they experiment all the time, there's no such thing as "bts lost their essence" cause as long as they are doing it, it's always going to be "bts style". That will never change, what changes it's the genres they want to carry out.

[@whaliena3108]

Well said! I agree with you totally. They are artist who's been in the industry for almost a decade. They know what style suits for them at this point better than all of us. Also it's totally alright to experiment and see what works well. no matter what I will support them always.

[@oyinodebowale63783]

Tbh I don't know why people were expecting ptd to be deep and dark. Didn't they see butter cover and hw colorful it was

[@paulad.r.7914]

@@oyinodebowale63783 fr xd well i can understand if someone thought maybe ptd was going to be kinda like a rock-pop song (? I mean the aesthetic could make sense ig but again, the song was released for army's birthday, they won't be all deep and dark when we're supposed to be celebrating lol

[@birch8109]

@@whaliena3108 For an experiment to work, we can't be biased. We can't just blindly support them out of loyalty. We should criticise if there are problems.

[@whaliena3108]

@@birch8109 I agree with u, But In my point of view, I don't see any problem with PTD. Also, I should mention that we don't know the motives of BTS and HYBE for releasing PTD all of a sudden soon after Butter. There can be a long term goal hidden beneath this fun and catchy comeback. So we better not judge them based on PTD.

[@yashvisolanki5412]

Side note: Don't expect Ptd to blow up like Butter, it's a b-side

[@goventurefarbeyondtheshore5438]

Frankly Butter seemed more like some random sentences put together more like a commercial advertisement. And PTD, it sounded like one of those Disney kids bop song with so much autotune. I didn't like either of them. This just ain't BTS. I'll call these songs overhyped and overrated. Like BTS are at this point in their career where they can literally make anything and it can still top charts cus you know the fandom. I mean I seriously worry they be living in some ivory tower or smth with all the praises and no criticism of these songs. They really need to know this. Armys really need to put their honest opinion in front of them but they won't cause they behaving like they have to have to like everything under this earth for BTS. :/

[@Based1889]

Idc what those new army's say, ptd is trash.

[@goventurefarbeyondtheshore5438]

@@Based1889 absolutely

[@captainlevi7188]

Enough of the happy songs.....bring back depressing dark songs pls.

[@srilatac4044]

Mots:7 is still existing you know?

[@captainlevi7188]

@@srilatac4044 ofc Ik but I want new songs🙄....I am bored of the old songs

[@srilatac4044]

@@captainlevi7188 well ok..it's not like 3 songs are gonna change their entire genre or something. There are 200 other songs..and it's not like BTS is gonna stop making music.

[@kooscherries]

You're absolutely pathetic

[@captainlevi7188]

@@kooscherries so r u

[@jiminybillybob61]

It sounds like what makes you beautiful by one direction 😐

[@hiii_young3225]

Tbh i was looking for this comment, that was the first thing I thought when I listen the song😂😅

[@beyondthescenes7430]

Thisssss when I heard it my mind immediately went to one direction

[@nuellalaryea9775]

Hw3 mo gyimiiiii... you menners all no correct

[@abenaphylis1149]

@@nuellalaryea9775 3no nkoaa na omo nimy3 omo ho s3 AP)s)

[@dssingh1453]

or they sound like bts

[@thepandaclub7335]

I agree unfortunately

[@prakritiii430]

In my opinion : this song is not my fav 😬

[@nuellalaryea9775]

FA WO GYIMIE S))) H). SIAAA O SIAA

[@abenaphylis1149]

As if we care 🤨

[@nuellalaryea9775]

@@abenaphylis1149 😂

[@prakritiii430]

@@abenaphylis1149 doesn't matter for me

[@316채연]

@@abenaphylis1149 who exactly is 'we'?

[@fatimaasif3761]

of the three English songs theyve promoted, id say this is the worst one so far, but to be fair, the only way they can get on these big award shows like the grammys is by releasing English songs, so i don't blame them, it's just the way it works, and now they have 2 songs to perform at the grammy, but all that aside i believe this is not their greatest song but it's definitely not their worst

[@zulynava4059]

The language is not the issue, is that the three english songs are too cheesy. Unfortunately people that are hearing them for the first time because they're singing in english, are not gonna have a good impression.

[@kymcharbonneaucarmel6256]

Y’all give it up for EXXXXXXXXXXXPENSIVE GURL!!!!!!!! (The worst in my opinion even if it doesn’t really count)

[@bread3669]

@@zulynava4059 ikr,they may lose their old fans (I'm not saying that they're gonna lose all their fans) since their fans like the uniqueness of their 'old songs'.

[@bread3669]

@@kymcharbonneaucarmel6256 but I still love them tho,if they're happy with that then I'll be happy too.

[@srilatac4044]

@@bread3669 you know they released freaking only 3 songs right? They released only 3 English songs..compare that *number 3* to their other 200 songs that are in Korean. Wtf?? I really can't understand you guys..some of you are behaving like they are not gonna release korean songs anymore. They released 3 songs in English and in a split second people forgot their other songs?? Don't expect them to have a new concept all the time..it's really hard now that they have tried out almost everything

[@diaaesc]

I love Bts with all my heart but their English songs have nothing special just to appear in America and it’s boring cause I can hear songs like this from western artists like I can imagine dua lipa making something like this. I will not say I want the old Bts back but the whole america thing has kinda changed them I’m happy they loving what they doing but it’s a NO for me.

[@alempongen5919]

Its the pandemic. Do you want them to make sad songs?

[@diaaesc]

@@alempongen5919 honestly I don’t give a shit however I’m glad people getting better by listening to these lovely songs…I have no problem about happy songs or whatever but not but the English part…they are basic in terms of music it’s sounds like every other western artist and as far as I remember they are Korean and I remember Namjoon saying they will not make English songs but when they made one and got closer to win a stupid Grammy they make more and lost their identity as a group. It’s their choice but this is not Bts "genre" this basic white American radio friendly shit. I’m not saying they should go back but Be as an album was amazing but they know they will not be nominated for a Grammy that’s why they continue with these basic English happy songs. I know they love that and that’s the choice but I’m expressing my opinion that doesn’t mean they are bad or it’s bad releasing happy basic songs:)

[@alempongen5919]

@@diaaesc i respect your opinion. You like their Korean songs better. But how is them releasing 3 English songs making them lose their "identity"? And Namjoon never said they won't make english songs, he said they won't make english albums. Its okay not to like their English songs, but can't you give them a voice of support as they are having fun doing this. If you don't like it you can just not listen to it. Why write such long para and give antis the chance to insult them? They released this song for armys. For us to listen during pandemic.

[@316채연]

@@alempongen5919 they weren't insulting them at all. and i can't speak for the person you're responding too but by 'losing their identity', in my opinion was saying that their title tracks, aka the song that's going to be the most advertised or commercially promoted will be songs like Dynamite, which got close to winning a grammy. i feel like the companys just continuing to release songs like that to only just win awards and nothing else.

[@alempongen5919]

@@316채연 there are so many in this comment section alone who are disguising their hate as "criticisms". Thats my only problem. You can like or hate a song, who am I to tell you otherwise. But its funny for "fans" to tell the boys they are losing their identity. Who are we to tell them what their identity is?

[@silverdove9911]

Gosh dang it i miss the songs from a few years ago. I stg no one come at me in these comments because I’m sharing my feels here. The Wings Era and Love Yourself Era timeframe was a golden time for them and i could actually hear all of their voices. They use so much auto tune nowadays and I just do not vibe with their songs anymore and their music feels like marketing more than an exploration of ideas. It just sounds so dang hot 100 generic nowadays.

[@atinymoonizen]

The autotune is the biggest turnoff for me too :(

[@lilac.c.]

Omg same :(

[@rehmamanaal3887]

I agree with the autotune, So thank God for live performances !! About the other thing, The thing about concepts and BTS is that they do not just take random concepts or concepts that their company gives them. Every concept they take on comes from what they themselves feel. SO, all their old songs that you mentioned is because they were ACTUALLY going through such a time and were in that headspace. I think as they grow up and their circumstances and what's happening to them change, the content in their music does too. But I understand what you are getting at. Just wait until the pandemic is over, so that BTS wont have the additional purpose of doing what they can to make ARMY feel happiness. I'm sure they'll return to whatever direction they were planning on taking their music before the pandemic unexpectedly crash landed on us.

[@pete3128]

The autotune was horrible.. Watched live version, but the whole song isnt it. They sound like trying to do cover for another artist (i dont mean their voices are bad) its just not BTS-ish..

[@Anggell707]

HYBE just has a problem with over-autotuning their artist in general I wish they would stop

[@jamibirchfield776]

I totally understand some people not liking the English songs. They are so very different than some of my favorite older songs like Fire and Mic Drop. And yes they are a bit cheesy but to be honest the world is much different now than it was when those other songs were released and I personally love and NEEDED the infectious fun and positivity of Dynamite, Butter and PTD!!!!

[@brittanyr6540]

I'm definitely a fan of theirs but I am not really into PTD. I like that they are trying to spread positive energy during rough times but I miss the Fire, Mic Drop, Idol days.

[@soph6675]

yes i liked the song so much but most of all i appreciated the way they're trying to spread such a positive message and making everyone more hopeful about the future, i think that is the best thing they could do and i admire them so much for deciding to do this

[@cintiamono214mondragon5]

I think they are trying to get a Grammy that why they do English songs

[@ifapramoe]

Or maybe because they have many international fans so that the song can be enjoyed by everyone?

[@kangseulgi82]

at first i thought it wouldnt hit my expectations and it really didnt

[@egg_lover7725]

I just think there's too much autotune :( you can't hear their individual, beautiful voices :(

[@Jeonkookie_sora1]

I used to be a huge army, completely obsessed with them but after listening to their new music not so much anymore. I still am an army and I do support them, but their music doesn’t really appeal to me anymore

[@bloom6291]

So do you explore other groups then?

[@Jeonkookie_sora1]

@@bloom6291 yes, I’ve discovered Dreamcatcher and Aespa, but BTS will always have a special place in my heart

[@bloom6291]

@@Jeonkookie_sora1 hmm I c I love dc too got in mainly bcz of their songs.❤️

[@bloom6291]

@@Jeonkookie_sora1 can I recc u some 😳 ?

[@Jeonkookie_sora1]

@@bloom6291 ofc you can :)

[@shabnammatte1647]

Even I didn't like PTD. It didn't sound like BTS, the insane amount of autotune was outrageous to me. Every English song they r putting out has the same "feel good, summer vibes" energy. It looks like BTS n their company r making songs just for charts, awards, international acceptance, but that's the thing, BTS doesn't need all this. Why do they need validation when they hv the most passionate and dedicated fandom! They are trying in to fit in someone's standards of music when they aren't meant to fit, they are made to shine and stand out. The song is catchy but I miss the older discography of BTS which made me fall in love with them. I became army after 'butter' so I'm relatively a new baby army, but still I didn't like PTD. And the internet still feels a foreign land to ppl like me who didn't like the song, the extreme fans are coming for us, and it's sad to see that cz this totally goes against d idea of kindness and inclusivity that BTS and Army stands for. I still love BTS and I find a second family in army, but not liking PTD doesn't make me a hater, and that's that. Sorry if d rant was too long but I needed to vent out.

[@jujubeesbtsarmy0613]

I agree that you don't have to like everything bc we all have our personal taste in music. But, we should be respectful & definitely be respectful towards BTS as artists.

[@r0396]

I’m slowly loosing interest in Bts tbh I’m just not feeling the music anymore 😔

[@ohteeseven7571]

next thing you know you're gonna be making a tiktok showing how you're taking your bts posters off your bedroom wall. I feel like comments like these can be kept to yourself cause you're not really commenting on the song tbh

[@srilatac4044]

These kinda comments ruin the environment.. please it's ok but I think it should be kept to one self.

[@r0396]

@@ohteeseven7571 This is something I've been feeling lately and I genuinely didn't enjoy this song compared to their other singles. Its not like I'm going to take off their posters and make tik toks about it tf?

[@tosinalade853]

@@r0396 It is ok. I am also not enjoying their releases. I am enjoyed other groups and slowing losing interest in BTS. I did not know they had a release until I saw a post about it.

[@ohteeseven7571]

@@r0396 that wasn't the point, you could've just said you didn't enjoy PTD

[@liz2071]

I do respect everyone's opinion and here's mine : We know how drastically Bts are changing including their music, performance, appearance in the past few months.. but remember they have never changed themselves.. they have been true who they are from there first day. And that's the only reason I am stanning them (opinion) till today. And I think there's no exception in PTD cuz everyone in their life needs it in one or another circumstances. My cousin whose been suffering from depression who once tried to hang himself accepts that BTS is the only reason he has hope to survive.. so I think they have changed for the BEST. They are the same young boys we saw in the I Need U era.. yet are standing beside us strong and powerful carrying the whole music industry behind their back. 💜

[@natywatches]

its a cute song but i didn't like it that much too

[@supitsash5226]

I feel like I've already heard it before but I'm not sure and i can't put my finger on it

[@shivanimahesh4335]

Me too

[@Lisaonda-xg]

Maybe Whitney Houston I wanna dance with somebody

[@supitsash5226]

@@Lisaonda-xg yeah maybe

[@CuteObeseCows]

Butter & boy with luv > dynamite & ptd

[@user-qv7bh2lx3y]

Agreed

[@clides9942]

imo bts should stop being so desperate to win a Grammy. Everyone knows that the Grammy Awards are a joke even themselves.. their new music (since they haven't won a Grammy) feels really ungenuine and forced? Like it feels Like they want to be as americanized as possible to impress the Grammy voters. (My Opinion bruh) I think there are a Lot of Other Problems.. they are overworked af and obsessed armys Always want More and More content too much Content (their new CB's don't feel as Special anymore) in Interviews they get treated Like Kids.. American song writers shouldn't Work with Bts..namjoon wrote and produced txt's new single: i know i love you and you could Just feel that the Song still has this ''bts vibe'' in it. Like the members aren't but Moneyobsessed hybe and obsessed armys are the problem. Also i'm allowed to have an opinion so stfu and don't comment any cringe hate comments🤠💗

[@ddangpapa1857]

My whole issue with people who review “permission to dance” is that everyone keeps saying the same thing. “We miss the old BTS”, that sentence alone, is full of so much selfishness and awareness. Firstly, let’s get this out of the way, the song was literally made with people suffering with disabilities in mind. So if you’re able bodied I think your opinions don’t matter to be honest. Secondly, people think that BTS’s prime was back in the day, but I personally don’t think they have hit their prime yet, I think they’re still growing as a group. Every time I hear the phrase “I miss the old BTS” it makes me think that people forget that, the old BTS didn’t know how to love themselves. They went through this journey of self healing, and they haven’t yet reached the end of that journey. They are still traveling on it, but they’re happier now, and maybe they don’t want to visit that place again. I always think this, and yet I don’t see anyone else thinking about that, I instead see everyone else being greedy and wanting BTS to make another “fake love” or save me” which I think we can safely say that they have moved past at this point. I think people need to be a little bit more self-aware. I think people need to start reading the vibe of the song before they feel the need to comment on it. Because this song literally wasn’t made for you, it was made for everyone, so that everyone can feel inclusive. Imagine not liking a song that screams happiness and inclusiveness with the added benefit of helping people with disabilities. The fans have become so entitled that they think they get to control BTS’s musical journey (the journey to love them selves). If it’s not your vibe cool, no one else who likes it cares. And sharing such comments or dialogue is only going to cause a war within the fandom. You can simply not listen to it and move on with your life instead of letting everyone in the whole entire world know. And before you say I’m reading too into it, I’m not. As someone with disabilities, I fell instantly in love with this song. And seeing the shit show on Twitter and everywhere else makes me really sad and not want to be part of the fandom anymore.

[@ifapramoe]

This comment💜 you put it very nicely

[@PJSchuyler]

Amen!!!

[@PJSchuyler]

I love it. I am sorry but everything you said should shut some mouths. I guess my biggest peeve is that SOME people want to seem , i am too cool or dark for this silly happy song, or want to seem “awoke”. Those people must realize one thing. BTS is huge, so huge, in fact envious people are just itching and waiting for their first “failure” as a group. And this only fuels and gives blood to those people who want to see BTS fail so bad that their own fandom despises that song. Please if you don’t like the song, move on. I bet you if you stream it long enough, you will be humming it and before you know you might like it but please do not give ammunition to the haters. You only make those people perceive that bts is over party. I don’t ask to like the song, no one is. You as an army must know every little thing bts does is torn apart so, be aware that you, with your negative attitude, gives more work for us, who actually like the song, because we have to defend it. 😞

[@PJSchuyler]

And sir, ma’am, everything you wrote is the truth and I wish I could steal it. More people need to hear this.

[@petalj]

???????????

[@FMD70757]

I am sorry, but after MOTS7 BTS was kidnapped and replaced. The music quality and complexity has decreased. Also, I don't mind that they are singing in English or that the lyrics are "fun". The music doesn't SOUND as good to me.

[@srilatac4044]

Idk if people don't like BE or are they just pushing it aside.. I remember people complaining about mots:7 being very complexed and now this??

[@alempongen5919]

@@srilatac4044 they always had something to bad to say, dont mind them. Been going on forever. They even insulted spring day during its release for being a sad song at that time💀

[@saketverma4119]

"After MOTS7 BTS was kidnapped and replaced". Great. You say their music quality and complexity has decreased. Are you seriously forgetting their whole self produced album BE? Lets talk about the music quality and complexity of BE. Life Goes On, a very befitting title track with great lyrics and a slow mellow pop genre theme. Blue&Grey, an acoustic themed slow ballad track with one of the best lyrics. Fly to my room, an og R&B track with less autotune and great vocals and raps. Dis-ease, most people say they miss older tracks. Well there you have it. An old school hip hop genre track. Telepathy, a whole freaking bop. A total BTS vibe song. And lastly Stay, an EDM track. Tell me by any standards the music quality of these songs is low. Literally every song of BE album was of different genre. What complexity seems missing?? Heck even the lyrics were on par with BTS lyricism. Not you'll acting like Snow Flower, Christmas Love, Abyss, Bicycle and a whole new Japanese comeback, Film Out didn't happen. Like seriously. I'm sorry if I offended you but saying that BTS got replaced is an insult to BTS' artistry when their authenticity is still there. I agree their English songs are not great. Even I don't like them. But you'll acting like BTS is sold out by just releasing 3 English songs is just downright disrespectful to BTS' years and years of hard work.

[@deborahlee7496]

For me, I love it because the lyrics have an amazing meaning, the dance was cool and fun to dance along (the back part), rap line singing (love the walk the walk part), and the music is more music-y (don't really know how to explain)

[@captainobvious5841]

Permission to dance sucked tbh, so disappointment, I've been a army sice the wings era, I don't want this to be the face of bts and kpop as a whole, there r a lot of better songs in BTS

[@jungkookskombucha3821]

Tbh to me it’s a good song. We’ve been through a lot so seeing them make a deeper English song but still making it cheerful. I love it and I’ll be into it for a while

[@aleksandraczajka4593]

i like vibe of this song but tbh bts have lost their own old vibe that i got from their song even 2 years ago. Now it’s so westernized and i don’t really like it:((

[@Lisaonda-xg]

I got into bts since debut 2013 i feel like the company is doing it in purpose to gain attention from America and foreign countries

[@aleksandraczajka4593]

@@Lisaonda-xg yeah i think the same as you but for me it makes their music worse

[@piscesglossier6687]

@@Lisaonda-xg most definitely. RM said in a dynamite interview that they won’t do another English song; what happened? They were nominated for a Grammy, but didn’t get it. Next thing you know, the company pops Butter out of nowhere that was literally made right after the Grammys. It was their second shot(much better shot imo). This ptd song? Idk what it’s about. Ik its a gift to fans, but that doesn’t necessarily mean I have to like it. It really wasn’t good and the auto tune bts have been using is annoying because it makes them sound completely different in live performances. It is westernized, but some other groups do it and it works for them because they are 1. Fluent in English. 2. They feel comfortable speaking in English. 3. Their company most likely had a plan for them to target a certain market.

[@neelambharikn6132]

to everyone in the comment section who is saying i liked blood sweat and tears and run era better its not even a year since they a released a korean masterpiece like black swan which went underappreciated. It takes time to release masterpieces like that and inbetween let them just release fun songs people can dance to there is nothing wrong is having songs like these in their discography.

[@natywatches]

butter > dynamite > ptd

[@piscesglossier6687]

If you go on twt, you literally can’t have an opinion…I said ptd wasn’t a good song. It sounded like something the theater kids would sing, but the mv was amazing and aesthetically pleasing. Now, I got called a fake fan because I said my honest thoughts? You don’t have to like everything. What’s the point of music if you have to force yourself to like everything. Idk who is in charge of bts’s recent comebacks, but BE was good…but after that, it just seems like they are only doing it for the records. Like I remember in a recent interview, V said their company always pushes them as “number one.” And he said that was pressuring. After that, it was this awkward silence..bts is good, but I don’t want them to be the definition of “overrated” especially when they worked so hard to get where they are. It’s like in the movies when the person who is humble at first suddenly becomes cocky

[@tamraah]

Thats aweful

[@ifapramoe]

Watch the interview again friend don't twist V's words... And no one jumping someone for saying they don't like the song, people got jumped because they added unnecessary comments like "missing their old songs" when BTS have diverse discography and never stick to one genre...

[@piscesglossier6687]

@@ifapramoe and that itself is an opinion. Let’s not act like bts truly like their current sound…it’s not even them. It’s generic music that sounds forced.

[@ifapramoe]

@@piscesglossier6687 Now you are speaking over them, read the recent interview, when Namjoon heard PTD he felt it was for them, it suits them. And guess what? BTS know more about them then us fans,,, crazy that you based your opinion on what YOU feel...

[@ifapramoe]

I also want to add why is it weird to question BTS' artistry because we are not entitled to their art, if you don't like it, fine, music is subjective. But many people here are explaining why they don't like it with those unneeded comments, "bts change" / "bts lose their authenticity" and so on which is very weird don't you think? Who are you to know what's best and what's them... we are just mere fans...

[@45ayeshakadiri90]

I personally feel that their next comeback (with the release of the whole new album) , whether it is a western collaboration or not, is going to be in Korean. The responses of the netizens and fans weren’t so appreciative for this song being in English. Even though I love PTD, I really hope they comeback with their old spark. Actually they don’t even need their old spark- and judging by their title track and b-side, it doesn’t seem like the concept of their old songs will fit into the theme of the album they are currently working on. We just need a Korean song which is catchy and addictive. This will also reduce all the haters taking "BTS IS NOW POP" as an opportunity to hate on them.

[@teamorevilover2863]

Yeah, I think their next songs would be in korean and with hiphop genre. I've read in koreaboo that yoongi said bts "may" release more hiphop song.

[@MonMonAg-95]

"The song was cheerful, happy, fun" WHAT!! I was ok with Dynamite but this song is bad for them, WHAT??? OMG like who sounds like this, WHAT!!! Y'all are stretching to like this. "It's makes you happy" Didn't Y'all say that about Dynamite too? What is this choreography? what is this whole song, who is BTS actually at this point? I can't take anymore English songs from them seriously. If they are trying to be a Western boy band, this is just massively unimpressive. Where is the skill, vocals, rap, choreography, all the things they are known to be good at. This is poor coming from them like what, Twice makes better English songs. Y'all really stretching to like this? Ok sis

[@periodty]

Fr

[@MonMonAg-95]

@Cloud Bread yeah but are these songs on charts cause they are good or are Armys over listening to them so they do get on the charts

[@oyinodebowale63783]

Welp I think I am the only person who dislikes butter and dynamite but liked ptd

[@MonMonAg-95]

@@oyinodebowale63783 I didn't care for any of the three. My concern is these songs are apparently for their international or Western fans or whatever but they suck. Like they make Japanese releasea that are just as good as their Korean ones so why do the English songs suck? Why do they literally sounds like a different group? It's sad that they think they need to literally sounds like a 1D wannabe to appeal to whoever they are trying to reach. It's boring. If it's a Western audience they are trying to reach the songs a boring and lack innovation. These songs might be on radios but they aren't gaining new fans, like people don't all of a sudden care about them because they have English songs. I don't know what their end game is but I have never waited for a BTS release and been absolutely disappointed

[@gyratree5246]

When they experimented in US market by collaborating with Halsey in Boy With Love, i already not like it. Then MOTS 7 came and HOW I ADORE BLACK SWAN, ON, LOUDER THAN BOMBS. They're superior. Dynamite is fine, but LGO is better. But Butter and Permission to Dance kinda push too hard. One summer song is cute, but two? Too much.

[@shreemag.r3863]

I honestly want kpop version of Bts...enough of this pop thing.... Its my personal openion thats all

[@maskedmen_lover]

The fact that i got hate for saying that it was a boring song.

[@Bellalove-ho8ux]

I love your videos 💙

[@bangpinkcherry]

thank youu💗💗

[@mrsteele-_-9612]

Wow I thought I was the only one

[@sadinaadhik2176]

I actually wana ask people didn't u guys like Jin hair colour, suga hair colour cause I feel it looked beautiful, it suited them very well.

[@Sunflowerramune]

When I said PTD wasn’t my jam,co-armys literally came over me! Like I didn’t specifically hate BTS (I love these seven dorks),Butter and My Universe was kinda better but BTS’ dark era was so iconic and im still emotionally attached to it

[@Based1889]

Been an army since 2016 and all the new mfs tryna bash at me because I said ptd is not my style

[@Sunflowerramune]

@@Based1889 ikr,also Levi watchu doin here?

[@Based1889]

@@Sunflowerramunerumbling started so i came straight to youtube for tutorials on how to beat eren..

[@Sunflowerramune]

@@Based1889 well that’s cool,hope ur tea shop is booming

[@ladiva7631]

I loved Dynamite right away and I listened to it for months (still listen to it, never gets old) but Butter got old real quick for me, one week of listen and I was out. Now PTD, OMG at this point I can't help thinking they just want grammy that bad. Where is the BTS I fall in love with 3 years ago for songs like Fake love, BS&T, Fire....? What's wrong with the boys lately? I wish my boys knew that they don't need western validation. Please come back, I miss u.

[@lagommay2369]

If you think they want grammy, let see Life goes on. After successful song - Dynamite, if they just want grammy, they wouldn't have chosen LGO as the title song! I hope Bangtanie wouldn't see these comments. My boys were so excited to give ARMY the beautiful song as PTD, but... My Bangtanie... 😭💜

[@ladiva7631]

@@lagommay2369 Don't fool yourself please. Bighit is obviously trying to reproduce Dynamite's success with Butter and PTD. I just want the boys to know that they don't need grammys or western validation. They're so much above those, they so much better than this.

[@lagommay2369]

@@ladiva7631 but they have just 3 song in English. The boys have never changed, bae! if they want achievement, they won't make a long 5 minutes MV. I understand u, but don't worry. Look at the beautiful meanings of PTD, they are still our Bangtanie, who love Army and always try their best for healing music... I love their korean songs, and PTD too. And now, let's wait for their next korean album at the end of this year 💜

[@316채연]

@@lagommay2369 the '5 minutes MV' are their title tracks. AKA the songs that'll be most promoted. they're/the company's obviously trying to get the grammys, you can't deny that.

[@antartestic7687]

See obviously no everyone will every song and that’s okay as long you’re being respectful about it. Saying straight up disrespectful stuff and then go around saying armys can’t take criticism is what annoys me.

[@alempongen5919]

This!! So many people pretending to be armys and saying straight up hateful things and saying we can't take "constructive criticisms"

[@isratjahan9285]

It is a song which can switch the current situation into happiness and It's really doing it very well 💜

[@g.summera.p.76]

Cheer up everyone. At the beginning of their English songs journey BTS as a group decided to make a cheerful songs without heavy meaning because they just want to cheer everyone. They realized There’s a time and place for heavy meaningful messaging on their music. I for one don’t want to listen to anything heavy right now however well intended it might be. With the past year with so many people struggling why not just take into account that sometimes it’s good to be considerate, respectful and understanding to the needs of others. Let’s have an open mind and cheer up and accept the intended intention the music bring. There’s A Time and Place for Everything.

[@yallgotnojams3154]

For me this song was better than their other English singles. The melody is beautiful. The lyrics ae great as well. I became ARMY by listening bst in 2017, they've changed a lot since what they were at that time. BTS was always that type of group who are never afraid to take risks and try different music styles. If I look differently, their old songs are truly my type and the English singles are good to jam with. Dynamite and butter were great songs as well but I just jammed with them and didn’t feel anything. But this song is kinda different. I really like everything about this song and this is their best English song for me. Of course, not everyone has the same taste and I respect your opinion. I love how you described your thoughts in such a respectful manner and didn't say that this song wasn’t that good or ed sheeran did them wrong. Thank you so much