My HONEST opinion on the Ben White Debate! TFFI 28

Who said the FA Cup lost its magic?! Ben Foster, Mark Goldbridge and Dave Watson have lots to go through after the quarter-finals threw up some serious drama this weekend. Coventry stunned Wolves to reach the semis after scoring twice in stoppage time, which led to manager Mark Robins celebrating in front of a ball boy! And the Sky Blues will now face Manchester United in the semi-finals after Erik ten Hag’s men won an FA Cup CLASSIC against Liverpool in the last minute of extra time. The lads have plenty to talk about from that one, including whether Caoimhin Kelleher should have actually saved Amad’s winning goal?!
Ben, Mark and Watto then get stuck into the Ben White debate, with England fans divided over the Arsenal defender’s decision not to want to be included in Gareth Southgate’s England squad!
You don’t want to miss all of that, as well as:
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:38 Manchester United BEAT Liverpool in the FA Cup!
3:55 Will Manchester United beat Coventry in the Semis?
5:25 Will Erik Ten Hag stay at Manchester United?
6:17 GK Analysis
16:33 Chelsea vs Leicester
19:39 Sterlings Penalty
23:40 Coventry LAST MINUTE Winners!!!
28:03 Ben White choosing not to be selected for England…
33:59 Should we be worries about Harry Kane and his injury?
37:36 Spurs SHOCK loss to Fulham!
40:51 The Football Fill-In Quiz!

[@trollingcrewtube]

Watson makes this podcast worth watching, his knowledge and emotional output from the quiz is the best part :D

[@Rootcauz]

Love Watto. He is class.

[@sanctusfides]

I'm always rooting for him in the quiz

[@antoinedoinell]

Probably the most reasonable and empathetic discussion about Ben White i've seen so far. Respect.

[@FrankWango-rs7bu]

Cause Manchester united won and his favorite team and coach Ange got stuffed by little Fulham.

[@matthewnurse4962]

@@FrankWango-rs7bu u know this is Ben fosters channel not mark

[@jakecollin5499]

@@matthewnurse4962ya good luck trying to get an even remotely normal response

[@iamsamu3lx289]

@@FrankWango-rs7bu How do either of those things relate to Ben White you weapon

[@Do27gg]

Idk how u can blindly defend Ben white lol

[@lkb1199]

You know whats crazy. I guarantee once southgate is gone, Ben white will straight away accept the call up to England. Theres a video of him getting a call up and he looked extremely proud. All this he doesnt care about football is not even true either. What Ben White said was is he doesnt watch it at home. When he grew up, he grew up playing it not watching it

[@TheMiniCale]

He doesn’t want to sit on the bench and who can blame him

[@Diegbone]

Yeah I think the only reason he rejected the call up was because he has problems with someone there. Also White doesn’t “hate” football he just doesn’t watch it at home but he’s said that he loves playing

[@ryomawashere4032]

@@Diegbone The media twisted his words because he is not Southgate's favorite. Remember that the same media run a PR campaign on Maguire, even called his mom.

[@TheDjSweets]

the mass media is wicked tool when used how they use it. they all stick together across all networks and socials with the same narrative pumped out in synchronisation.

[@NeilLewis77]

@@TheMiniCale i can. your supposed to sit on the bench until your time comes. like this week when he could be playing against brazil at wembley and try to nail down a spot in the team. Joe gomez just spent 4 years out the squad and didnt complain. i just dont get why ben white thinks hes above trippier, reece james and trent who have all took turns on the bench watching kyle walker start most games.

[@RiceAndRun]

It’s finally nice to hear a voice of reason about the Ben white situation. You’re an employee at the end of the day; it’s perfectly normal to have a bit of work life balance. Also 👀 it’s funny how a fringe player like Ben would actually understand how it feels to be on the bench and not be played. While all the people who were nailed on starters are saying “ it’s an honour”

[@javanandre3390]

Keep up the goalie talk. No one is offering these details when it comes to shot stopping. Love it!

[@audreyabenaa4170]

Very intelligent take regarding Ben White . .. all other platforms are commenting with a lot of nonsense.

[@paulsheridan6320]

LOVE the goalkeeper chat, would love more of this!

[@nickshields4823]

Love that Ben put in a disclaimer saying it’s GK analysis after hearing Onana get grilled for missing a deflected shot

[@TYLOTYLOTYLO]

😂 he only said that cause Marks there. Onana is trash im a rival fan and i was screaming throughout that game. He’s absolutely shit

[@fklsfgw]

i feel for Ben White, cause there probably some things that we don't know and country always will be bigger than a player.

[@sagniksarkar3791]

The discussion from 6:17 is why i love this show. No other place give this kind of analysis. Great work lads.

[@Stephen-N]

i really love the GK views, not something that gets talked about all that much anywhere else so starting the pod with a quick "could he have saved x/y/z goal" and getting your views is great.

[@GravelordWrust]

Totally respect White for saying no. If he doesn't want to go, he doesn't want to go. Ian Wright and Harry Redknapp should maybe consider the reasons he doesn't want to, especially in a period of time in which we're encouraging men to improve their mental health.

[@danruss12338]

Great vid lads, glad our little Coventry got plenty of mentions. Thank you lads. Very much looking forward to the semi-final next month 😀

[@killmonger9404]

I cant believe mark wears this hoodie voluntarily

[@Do27gg]

It’s his bf what do you expect

[@YetAnotherPod]

This is the cast I’m always used to I always get excited when the camera pans to the guest seats and it’s Dave and Mark

[@MrJJuK]

I don't blame Ben White at all, he went to the world cup and didnt play, over maguire ffs... and im a united fan.

[@charliecoutts3003]

The crucial phrase in the Ben White saga is "At this time" referring to his availability for England. How can the hard of thinking like Redknapp, Murphy and all the social media keyboard warriors not see it's not England Ben doesn't want to play for it's current coaching regime. Ben White is a much better footballer than Southgate is a manager and hopefully Southgate and that no-mark Steve Holland will be gone after the Euros. Ben White was estatic to be picked for England on his first call up and I expect he will be again after July. Great show by the way, intelligent opinions.

[@paulprothero9997]

Well done guys. Finally a reasonable take on the Ben white situation

[@louisetorresblanc4921]

Love the show and the quiz is the best part. I want to know if you will do livestream during the Euros ? French fan

[@gemthemage]

Best football pod good takes on things that matter and banter takes as well when needed

[@rippermcmakin]

Still the best notification of the week ❤. Enjoy the international break off lads. Excited for the title run in with watto, mark and our fav fozzie

[@thecyclinggk]

We are back next week too! Keep an eye out next Monday on Spotify! 🙌🏼

[@wzh-ko9ce]

socceroos~~~~😜😜

[@TheHampshirebassenthusiast]

Most sensible take on Ben White on socials

[@dieseljr7946]

I think Watto made a great point that Ben White might be doing this not only for himself but for the benefit of England too- if he knows there's a coach there that he just doesn't gel with and it might cause some animosity or awkward situation amongst the group, the best thing for both parties might just be to maintain some distance.

[@boreilly82]

GK analysis here is great.

[@nonii8526]

as a goalie i love and watch this podcast for the goalie discussions! great work 💪

[@darrenbudgen966]

Forget Sterlings penalty, the free kick he took over Palmer was absolutely criminal!

[@Oregeja-cu7em]

Absolutely top analysis lads🙌🏾

[@KingMavGamer]

Loving the PODCAST Ben!

[@thecyclinggk]

Thanks! 🙌🏼

[@larikmustafa2035]

I think you guys should have an analysis every week of the to 5 saves in the matchday, and some mistakes, I am a goalie as well and I love this!

[@Erik_Ten_Hag13]

White isn’t going to get any minutes at all! Walker, Trent, Trippier. Leave the lad alone for knowing what’s what!

[@edenjorginho8604]

sterling played well? 🤣🤣

[@prodempt5590]

Other than the 2 horrific deadball plays he took, I didn't think he played bad

[@MihailBFC]

was a disaster 😂😂😂

[@miket7056]

​@@prodempt5590 come on pal just say you didn't watch the game. That was one of the worst performance I have seen from a player

[@prodempt5590]

@miket7056 created 4 chances and assisted. You could watch any game and find someone that has a worse game😂

[@edenjorginho8604]

@@prodempt5590 actually watch the game instead of just looking at the stats, there’s a reason he was booed

[@joelmarshall3085]

brilliantly said by mark about fulham and the premier league

[@ellemarr7234]

Gareth Southgate will be the cause of England’s failure this summer. He’s an absolute prat

[@asawaters9624]

The best trio on KZbin 🔥🔥

[@asid28]

Having the ability to start Watkins/ Kane to tire out the defence and then subbing on kane/ watkins would be so hard for teams to deal with.

[@jbo4547]

Lol Southgate would never ever do that

[@dkonter22]

Class as always lads

[@thecyclinggk]

Thanks!

[@Werneckiryan]

I love the intro and outtro

[@markhill9902]

It's funny how West Ham, Forest, Arsenal, Brighton and Spurs have all had their "worst performance of the season" away at Fulham. I wonder if there's a common theme... 🤔

[@rmaacc25]

Facts!

[@999yeko]

May be it's not far fetch for Fulham to challenge for a European Qualifying spot (Europa or Conference)

[@shakmanceljames9336]

True, Fulham are really solid.

[@paulie-g]

It must be the famous cauldron of Craven Cottage getting to them, the famous atmosphere etc.. Seriously though, I think Silva is an underrated manager and clearly his Fulham have summat about them. There are cases where you can see a team hasn't turned up in the first few minutes of the game, but in these cases it looked like Fulham had a bit to do with making it happen

[@shakmanceljames9336]

@@paulie-g will be interesting to see if he can hold onto all the standout players

[@Deyeezus]

Always love the goalie analysis 🧐

[@jordanharris5013]

The 1st Onana goal you guys were talking about, I'm wondering if he was scared to hit it straight left cause of varane and risk the og. Maybe he thought he was closer. You guys know better than me but that was my 1st thought when I saw it live.

[@darrenbudgen966]

Football fill in is legit the best thing on youtube.

[@nishant3528]

My favourite weekly show!

[@razisharbini7569]

Keep up the GK analysis guys, love this trio 👍

[@tonylam4549]

Jon McJons: Get in!!

[@edchavez4710]

Love this show

[@WCamden]

Ben white since whatever happened at the World Cup hasn’t been called up once, is Southgate took Ben white to the euros it would be for show and nothing else he wouldn’t play a single minute why would he go

[@brandonandrew2581]

As of next season can we get a mid week football fill in on champions league,europa etc?

[@SwankSinatra007]

That is a wild kit sir Foster!

[@CoconutJewce]

My brother, an Arsenal fan, said that Ben White has a problem with England's assistant coach, not so much with Southgate. I'm not sure what happened there, but it makes sense from White's perspective imo. Who would want to go and sit on the bench, not playing any minutes, knowing that you're not playing because you and the assistant coach had a fallout? Understandable imo.

[@exedra8649]

We rarely get insight into goalkeeping nowadays so I say keep doing the analysis!

[@young_raymond47]

I’m glad you agree on the 2nd Liverpool goal, because I’ve been accused of having an agenda against Onana. I’ve been saying for a while that he needs to push the ball out of the danger area when he makes saves. He’s been asking to get punished for it all season. Thankfully we still won the game, but I expect so much better from a literal balon d’or nominee.

[@danielo9159]

It's so strange how everyone seem to have forgotten how Southgate camp have treated Ben White over the years.

[@TP-pq9xx]

It's never been proven in the first place so there's nothing to remember.

[@georgeharris9153]

Found the arsenal fan 😂

[@georgeharris9153]

He’s the fourth/fifth best English right back. Treating him badly would be never having picked him, not starting better players ahead of him.

[@Ewerboweski]

Benjamin white has come out to the public amd said he would appreciate if people used his real name, not Ben. Yet from across the pond in canada every single pundit and englishman I hear calls him Ben. Not only the coach of england but it seems the entire english football world does not actually respect him. I think the fact he does not care to play is great, it shows solid boundaries and is a proper example to youth.

[@Nippleless_Cage]

Idk, Ben White just sounds better 😂

[@fplgregfrost]

Goalie analysis is class btw, you can't get it anywhere else. Man Utd need to buy a really promising young goalie to put pressure on Onana to improve.

[@owenjarrell8011]

Absolutely love the goalie analysis as a GK ❤❤❤

[@joshcurtis8129]

Ben we as a fan Hopefully it’s not just me but Most people have to watch this for opinion on goalkeepers cause it’s something ya never hear on sky or anything they never talk about the keepers so it’s good to see people go into detail about them

[@benjporter1511]

What about uniteds first goal where Kelleher palms it over himself and one yard off the line for Scott to knock it in..... Incredible

[@sambog2635]

ben white is not going to miss out on sun bathing time by playing for england 😂😂😂

[@paulsheridan6320]

I find it very harsh to blame Kelleher on the Diallo goal. The shot is right in the corner, in off the post. Meanwhile, I think Onana could have stopped all three goals.

[@Ladioz]

Not sure when people started to decide that a treble is achievable without champions league. Liverpool cannot do it without champions league and even more now without FA cup. They're not good enough

[@MegaDorkatron]

three silverwere is a treble no mather how you define it. It is just a lesser treble, kinda like a flush in Poker vs a royal flush.

[@Do27gg]

Not sure when people forgot basic maths. Treble = 3. It’s A treble not THE treble. Still a treble and still very impressive

[@TP-pq9xx]

One team is still on for the quintuple, though

[@bhvillaman4401]

Liverpool already have a treble without the champions League mate

[@Do27gg]

@@TP-pq9xx who?

[@ayrmendina8314]

I very very rarely seek to make a racial comment on KZbin because it will always be twisted and assumed the worst. But there's this great sadness in the pit of my stomach that if he were a black Englishman with his skillset and calibre, his "Englishness" would be questioned; his loyalty to his country would be judged; how disrespectful it is to the King and to country etc. The usual nationalism parroting. Credit to Ben White for standing on what he believes is right. That's all this is. A disagreement between him and management. Something we all can salute for an employee standing up for himself. But if he were not a white Englishman, I fear the conversation topics would be far more polarising. And as an Englishman, it saddens me that this thought came to my mind. Apologies if I'm overthinking.

[@Dustyholes]

Wato, Goldbridge, and Ben Foster are such a good combination of personalities

[@ClassDynamix]

Maybe a bit harsh on Kelleher for the 4th goal? It went in off the post after all - couldn't be more accurate, yes it wasn't a high-velocity shot but still - direction wise it was as accurate as you can get

[@Do27gg]

It was literally perfectly placed, idk why they’re being so harsh

[@milleralexandernesse3392]

legend

[@gameforalaugh5743]

Mark, why don't you mention Rashford being picked despite being no where near good enough this season?!

[@TallyDrake]

Mark talks about it on his channels.

[@MrAnds14]

When did Ian Wright blame Ben White for rejecting England? Can someone send me the link to that please. Cos I’m going to call bull on that!

[@fplgregfrost]

Watto you know you would of played for England had you not had that injury. I remember seeing you at the corner pocket and being in awe haha.

[@speedy1380]

The media has absolutely spun his words. All he said is that he doesn't watch football when he's home, never said he doesn't like it. The problem here has to be the absolutely incompetent manager England employ, they will win nothing with that clown at the helm.

[@danielwhittaker3596]

Is it me or does anybody else zoom in to find out what books are on the table? 😂 we need a show & tell every episode 👌🏼

[@moze2324]

Great GK analysis from watto and Ben top stuff lads, loving the podcast, was a terrible loss from us but we move on 😂

[@tommyvo4464]

They just hate Onana always talking badly of him…. why didn’t talk about the Liverpool goalkeeper he should’ve save 3 goals from United but they didn’t talk about :/ just sad

[@stuartclarkson48]

Would have thought of anyone Ben Foster would be empathetic towards White considering it's a similar situation he was in with England, and I was right this is probs the best view on the whole situation with Ben White

[@TheDjSweets]

Fair play Mark G regarding the Benjamin. that's why they hate you so much because your bigger than them in honesty and following. "Players picked on form!?" That tells you they take us for complete mugs.

[@fugaziishime]

Wan Bissaka MOTM. the most consistent player for every minute he was on the pitch.

[@GregH25]

I don’t blame Ben White. He’s an important part of a title chasing team and there are too many international fixtures these days. He doesn’t want to risk injury by playing pointless friendlies. Scrap the friendlies and scrap the Nations League

[@davidanderson6839]

Foz is so competitive in the quiz it's hilarious

[@fisarne3000]

Frank Lampard?! Haha, wtf Goldbridge got away easy with that horrible horrible guess.

[@leecollison7527]

Laughing at Watto & Mark moaning about the Jarrod Bowen question when I got it at the same time as Ben.

[@pip1723]

Rather be in Liverpool's position than United's .

[@Do27gg]

Facts, let them enjoy this before they get knocked out by Coventry

[@Maple_T29]

This reminds me of last season when United fans were telling us they had a better season than Arsenal😂 like yeh you won a cup but you also lost 6-3 and 7-0 to your biggest rivals, held 4 away at Brentford, got smashed by Sevilla in Europa and then got beat by your city rivals in a cup final. No way I would hold all that just for one carabao cup💀 I agree with you guys, would rather be in a title race than a race for Europa league. Also they celebrated beating you like they were a league two team and it’s all gonna lead to nothing when Pep dunks another trophy on Ten Hags bald head💀😂

[@damianbrowne847]

@@Maple_T29 I hope you enjoyed your runners up trophy last season… oh wait. You don’t get one. Arsenal…. Always the bridesmaid and never the bride. 🫵💩

[@damianbrowne847]

What Manchester United fan said that Pip? Delusional. However, we got 3rd and the league cup last season so don’t worry about it. You can have it this season.

[@pip1723]

I heard one United fan say they could go on and win the league 😂 after the victory on Sunday....

[@donalddarmsteadt3541]

I love the analysis, but if you blokes can see what Onana's problems are, then the question must be asked, "Is it the coaching at Man United, or is Onana uncoachable?" For being at this level of football, Onana seems to make A LOT of mistakes. ALSO................... What happened to the "mystery jersey" box?! I used to love that bit!! Keep on keeping on boys!

[@innercircle341]

No one is getting to the crux of the matter. Ben White clearly has a huge problem with the England coaching set up. It's such a big issue that he is prepared to deny himself a place in the squad. All this stuff about travel, not getting picked, other players starting etc is all nonsense. He feels disrespected in some way and won't go through it again. Unless the truth comes out all speculation is pointless. The canary in the coalmine is him leaving the World Cup. Whatever triggered that event is the reason he wont go now

[@john01259]

Question idea: How many PGMOL apologies have they issues this season.

[@harrychandhok2711]

I always watch the football fill in as soon as it comes out, but I always get disappointed as they hardly mention City. Don't know what's their agenda against us

[@manishmohite2393]

Next season Mainoo needs to be our fixed no.8 Don't want to see in no.6 just to adjust him in the team.

[@insertgenericusernamehere2402]

That Bayern shirt is as awful as spurs. Good lord looks like a 80s bus seat.

[@Driolo95]

They don’t make the bus seats like they used to!

[@bhvillaman4401]

Nah it looks good mate dunno what California bus seats you've been bummed on but it wasn't that

[@darrenbudgen966]

@@bhvillaman4401 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mrc8985]

Thanks Fozzyprat, Davoprat and Brentprat x

[@stuartsmith8482]

I am of the opinion that Ben White is allowed to make the decision he decided but my serious bug bear is the international breaks coming up and suddenly they become injured .I truly think they should if they do use the I'm injured excuse and they then miss the next game for there club .I wonder then does the I'm injury excuse would be slowed down .

[@Perry.Francis]

Imagine if England win the euros… Ben white will be pissed

[@michaelhearn3831]

🤣😂🤣😂…..will he also miss the tooth fairy…..😂🤣😂🤣win the euros 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣understand Southgate 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@calumlansley273]

I would argue as a United fan not our best performance this season but my favourite every player just going for it shock and awe the United way of old I loved about 5 minutes of it in a good way ❤

[@Amajgad]

Jamie MVP as always!

[@Esco83EXE]

FACTS FACTS FACTS!

[@BlackOut92K61]

Best to not forget that Coventry aren't the only championship team to knock wolves out of a cup this season... #itfc

[@Nippleless_Cage]

Wolves against Prem Top 6: 🐺 Wolves against anyone else: 🐩

[@1mariusfredriksen1]

Great show with 2 great guys and Mark, he is little :)

[@vashishlg_]

Disastrous questions but world class quiz as every week😂

[@thecyclinggk]

🤣

[@jammerzz33]

Mainoo star boy

[@yeahboi2417]

Miss placing passes all over the gaff

[@iamsamu3lx289]

@@yeahboi2417 watched back of TV lad? Gliding past liverpools 150 million midfield like butter

[@yeahboi2417]

@@iamsamu3lx289 shows you’re a joke man when you’re making up numbers😂

[@Do27gg]

@@iamsamu3lx289bro did one dribble and is even more overhyped 😂 he’s good but United fans must be thirsty af

[@jammerzz33]

The lads fresh out the academy this season and is a joke🤣 watch him in the euros .. 😇 salty Liverpool fans in the comments🤝🏽

[@nickshields4823]

Being United’s GK must be the most criticised job in the world

[@Do27gg]

As a Liverpool fan I don’t even think onana is that bad, just had a rough start

[@simonclare333]

Only cause all Utd fans have KZbin channels that’s why you hear it all the time

[@simonclare333]

@@Do27gghis rubbish bloke had 1 good year done well at Ajax but look at the spurs semi champions league had a nightmare lol

[@Do27gg]

@@simonclare333 that was like 5 years ago? I’m not saying he’s the best keeper in the world but he isn’t crap by any stretch

[@rasmusslettemo7234]

Onana is good but the over analyze him.

[@capcomgenius3974]

Hows the Sneaker collection going?.

[@jdssmith7467]

Couldn't disagree more with mark on Southgate. Talking about form and shouldnt have picked henderson and others who play abroad. Like he watches the Dutch league week in week out or the Italian league. Has no idea if they are doing well or not other than when he checks on flashcore.

[@okkewijntjes6640]

It’s his job to know. Simple as

[@MickSkitz]

It's not as if he would even need to travel himself to watch the games. Southgate has staff and he can delegate. But he is so set in his way, he is lucky the talent that already exists in the squad, because he is certainly not getting the best out of them.

[@TheMizgan]

Why you guys have stopped doing win lose or draw?

[@ryomawashere4032]

We know the media wont call Ben White's mom because he aint Southgate's favorite.