My Identity Was My Career (Now It’s Gone)

My Identity Was My Career (Now It’s Gone)
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[@johnhornbrook9065]

I’m a flight instructor as well and I feel horrible for this guy. The FAA is really doing the general public and Pilot a severe injustice by putting their medical certificate at risk once they seek help with mental health. This guy is 100% doing the right thing by seeking help but there are THOUSANDS out there who don’t because their livelihood is at risk if their medical certificate gets revoked due to mental health struggles. It takes an incredibly long time to get those back at times and often times costs significant amounts of money. I genuinely hope this guy gets the help he needs and also gets to fly again in the future.

[@engagedanddivorcedpodcast]

Agree with this. I’ve also known pilots who are alcoholics and never get treatment because they know they’ll lose everything they built.

[@PepeCoinMania]

dont seek help because help you must find yourself dont trust these idiots

[@taters2883]

When I was an FA, there was an FO out for months because of some issues with his medical paperwork. He was out for almost a year, but in that time he was doing in class instructing for the new hire pilots which was great. He ended up returning to the line and then upgraded to become a Captain. It was nice to see his growth and not give up despite the issue with his medical paperwork

[@tanyamilewski5700]

Well many souls are at stake if something goes wrong.

[@carpediem6431]

@@tanyamilewski5700I guess people have forgotten the incident a decade or so ago where a German co-pilot with mental health issues, locked the flight deck deck door when the pilot went to the washroom and intentionally flew the passenger jet into the side of a mountain. The guy murdered 150 people. He was being treated for depression and ruled unfit to work by his doctor but there was no mandatory reporting in Germany and he didn’t tell his employer. This issue isn’t as cut and dried as many commentators think.

[@assallove1010]

I hope you read this Justin. Have you heard they say you make plans and God laugh at you.... Same thing happened to me last year when I decided to become a Personal trainer and I broke my knee cap and my plan went into dust and I lost my motivation. I have feeling when we do not follow our life soul purpose life takes another road to our journey and later on when we look back at our life we see how God was guiding us. Peace and love for all

[@jemimajanvier4706]

I relate to this painfully. I also made a slight change in career choices because of crippling anxiety. That feeling he describes when he sees his friends move forward successfully as pilots isn’t jealousy, it’s FOMO, and it’s grieving over what feels like the death of something you truly loved. He is incredibly honorable for considering others before himself, perhaps in the future he will be able to pursue his dream, but even if he doesn’t I have faith that he will do great things ❣️

[@myyt3824]

Dude, you’re so young. The world is your oyster. I completely get that flying was your vision for your career and your passion. Losing that can be devastating. But you have so much time and opportunity in front of you. You learned a lot and none of it was a waste. You got this.

[@karaa7595]

You don't get it. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@saltandpepperandmint]

@@karaa7595seems like you don’t get it

[@Magdalene952]

Justin, my path was similar a few years ago (except I was in a bathroom stall trying not to throw up). When I was finally feeling safe in life, that is when I was at my worst mental place. I was robbing my present and future, because prior to that point I never allowed myself to be acknowledge the trauma of my childhood and watching my mom die. I was strong, because I had to survive. Healing is the best gift you can give yourself. Maybe you will never fly again, who knows, but you deserve to be happy no matter what path life takes you on. Maybe you need a new therapist...but ultimately for the therapy to work - you have to be 100% real, raw, honest, open, and vulnerable with yourself. My therapist always told me she was there to walk my journey with me, but it was up to me to show her the path. I uncovered all kinds of things I never told a soul about and to speak it made it real...but also allowed me to face it, put it down, and move on from it. I wish you all the best!! You've got this.

[@myyt3824]

I’m so sorry to hear of your mother’s traumatic passing, but I’m also so happy to hear you navigated that trauma and we’re able to acknowledge it and move forward. Your mother is so incredibly proud of you and she’s always with you ❤

[@jaqueitch]

I used to have this issue (BIG time) when driving. Not just on highways either. It was debilitating. I am on daily anxiety meds (Effexor). This, and not drinking alcohol, has changed my life. I am able to do everything I have ever wanted to. I am confident. I have doubled my salary in 3-1/2 years. I am driven. I am motivated. I cannot explain it exactly, but it is as if I had a near-death experience (which I pretty much did with my alcoholism) and now I can't find enough time in the day to make up for my perceived "lost time".

[@mmp495]

Congratulations on your sobriety! That's the best self love you can give yourself. ❤️

[@thegastroparesisgoofball1030]

Just something to consider with the symptoms described… it could be a form of dysautonomia (autonomic nervous system dysfunction), rather than panic attacks. The symptoms he described are similar to when I get low blood pressure episodes… which admittedly are triggered by flying (among many other things). Doctors will often misdiagnose dysautonomia as panic attacks. Dysautonomia is usually treated by cardiologists or neurologists and can be tested with a tilt table test (and sometimes other tests like nerve conduction studies) and can be managed with lifestyle changes and sometimes medication. Just wanted to throw that out there to look in to, in case panic attacks aren’t actually the issue.

[@Sim_one1]

I was thinking that too! I developed Dysautonomia last year, I haven’t flown with it but I know flying can cause potential issues in people who do have Dysautonomia

[@djpuplex]

Suicide rate among healthcare professionals that lose their license is over 50%. Hope this gets actual help.

[@jamesringler987]

Look into magnesium an potassium intake you may be deficient

[@mariaking4950]

I'm glad you've suggested some possible physical causes, our mental state and anxieties can sometimes be massively affected by things like sugar, alcohol, wheat, lack of sleep, etc.I think it's important to consider anxiety, relationships, work-life balance etc but there could be vitamin deficiency for example or other physical problems.

[@fire12731]

You are young. The world is yours.

[@Kristen-ek9rz]

I feel for this young man. I had a similar loss with my dream job disappearing due to health issues. Despite the loss, he sounds like he's on the right track in his life. I wonder if Hypnotherapy would help him. I did it for many years and it helped me release a lot of past life trauma that led to illness. it's not for everyone, but worth looking into for deep cellular release. Best wishes to Justin!

[@kendrascorner]

Good for you for choosing the safety pf others and yourself over your dreams. Im sure that was a very difficult decision. I hope you can get to the root of your anxiety and can move forward with new dreams, whatever they may be.

[@drewdelaney4166]

I’ve had what you describe. The tingly feeling lights going out impending doom while driving. You need to drink tons of water my friend. You were having vasovagal syncope response due to your anxiety. I totaled my car and somehow lived without a scratch on the highway due to this. I was severely stressed, depressed and anxiety. When I drink over s gallon of water a day plus coconut water or Gatorade to combat this. It got so bad a few years ago. On a long road trip I had to scream at the top of my lungs and pump flex my muscles to avoid blackening out at certain points of the drive. I took my self off the road after that and resigned from my job

[@mmp495]

😢

[@honestmatter]

Jesus Christ

[@drewdelaney4166]

@@honestmatterptsd, depression, anxiety and loneliness is a MFer. It’s no lie what Dr John says all the time. If you don’t addresss what’s going on with your mental health you body will eventually deal with you

[@thecramptons]

Interesting story about your dad John. I like that

[@specialK180]

How bout when you’re a new nurse and don’t get the jab and now you can’t work? Went from making $30 an hour to $13 an hour, as a receptionist.

[@tanyamilewski5700]

Grieve and move on. That’s the risk of all or nothing approach to life. I see this with some women who make marriage their whole life and sacrifice everything to please the guy only to be trapped in an impossible situation when guy desires to be terrible. For some it works as imagined but for other it’s a nightmare. Lesson being don’t put your whole life and self worth on one thing you you can’t even control. At least spread your purpose to other things or make sure you can control what you are putting self worth in or have plan B. If flying is not an option how about other flight careers which would benefit from the knowledge and experience

[@joellenm1206]

yep agree 100%

[@sethgordon2003]

one very noticeable thing missing from Dr. John's advice is diet and exercise. Inflammation effects how the body and mind operates. Adjusting our diets (reducing processed foods, sugars, drugs, and alcohol) and exercise (getting heart rate up) can make a huge difference in our baseline mood. I believe any effective therapeutic advice should include awareness of our lifestyle choices.

[@thebluebutterfly5177]

He could support those who fly perhaps? Just a thought🤷🏻‍♀️ if going by the comments suggest there aren’t enough in the flying industry who come forward to deal with mental health challenges, you could open that door for them?

[@sha2596]

Not delone with the deftones shirt!!!👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@mmp495]

Does he wear Metallica? 🎸 ⚡️

[@furryplantsandcoins9070]

The way he was talking about his hands and feet sounds like what I have I have neuropathy. And I also have nerve damage in my hands and feet. Sounds like he needs to get some test done to find out. And I would also go to a chiropractor cuz it might be stemming from his back like mine did. I hope he can get this figured out. 🙏

[@pamelavesey6381]

Right now he would still rather fly than have to be noble, which is what makes him noble. It took over 5 years for me to do the healing work, but I never have panic attacks anymore. There were times I couldn't stand, or see straight because of the panic, so they are hell on earth.

[@kid_kurz]

this is a really good one. I can relate.

[@YaYa-ke1zr]

I wish the young man would have had more time to talk on this call.

[@skateata1]

I had an interest in the military but I got disqualified due to chronic health issues. It wasn't my dream job but there was a lot of potential such as benefits and tuition assistance that I really wanted. ☹

[@MattyLight30]

Man I was hoping this was BitBoy when I read the thumbnail. Lolz

[@alyross2850]

Maybe this is why there are so many pilots who are alcoholics. They can’t turn to the medical community for help so they find something else. This is one thing that worries me about “red flag laws” pertaining to guns. The people who need the help won’t seek it.

[@juliestevens0426]

Justin, this will continue to pop up for a long time. It happened and you are allowed time to grieve when it happens.

[@Happysoul_3]

I have heard such stories it feels like destiny has other plans for your career so its happening. I have heard people got their dream career and then after 2-3yrs got certain injuries where they arent fit to be in that job.

[@swim610]

Emdr...yes...good recommendation

[@woodybop129]

Rocketmaaaaan burnin agaserrrrrahhhgaaarasaaall.

[@myyt3824]

😂😂😂

[@brandonhooper7748]

Does anyone understand what was happening to him when flying? Panic attacks?

[@PepeCoinMania]

psychologists are not your friend. I would never go to that crap if was a pilot I dont care

[@girlygirl1890]

*******LOVE THIS GUY FOR PUTTING THE SAFETY OF OTHERS BEFORE HIS OWN SELFISHNESS. HE ABSOLUTELY DID THE RIGHT THING BY GETTING OUT. SOME THINGS IN OUR LIFE ARE THERE FOR A SEASON AND NOT EVERYTHING IS MEANT TO BE FOR A LIFETIME. TO ME, I SEE IT AS A BLESSING THAT HE GOT THE CHANCE TO DO WHAT HE CHOSE TO DO IN HIS LIFE. THAT IN ITSELF IS A BLESSING, AS A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN GET THAT CHANCE FOR WHATEVER REASONS. CONSIDER THAT A BLESSING. LIFE GIVES US WHISPERS, AND IT IS OUR DUTY TO LISTEN TO THOSE WHISPERS, NOT IGNORE THEM. IT'S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT ME ME, ME. IN HIS CASE, HE THOUGHT ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES AND ABSOLUTELY DID THE RIGHT THING - AND I COMMEND HIM FOR THAT. WITH HIS UNSELFISH CHARACTER AND THOUGHTFULNESS OF OTHERS, HE'S THE KIND OF PERSON I WOULD WANT AS A PERSONAL FRIEND OR FAMILY MEMBER WITHOUT A DOUBT! NO QUESTION. I SEE GOOD THINGS IN HIS FUTURE BECAUSE GOD WILL PLACE THINGS IN HIS LIFE THAT WILL BE JUST AS FULFILLING... IN TIME. TRUST ME ON THAT. HE WILL BE JUST FINE.

[@rustyshackleford6637]

Look up Rick Ankiel

[@callmecordelia7181]

“When you think about it, your body drags it into the present and you feel it again.”