My Johnson Needs An Overhaul, and it's Putting Up A Fight! Johnson Engine Part 3

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FarmCraft101

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2 жыл бұрын

No spark, fixed coils/condensers/points. Replaced water pump. Fixed propeller seal. Refill lower gear case. Broke shaft seal, made a new one. Remove power head. Make many new gaskets. Fixed primer pump. Cleaned out carb (again). Check compression. Phew, that was a lot to do in under an hour! This is a 1952 Johnson Sea Horse 5 hp engine, model TN-28.
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@FarmCraft101
@FarmCraft101 2 жыл бұрын
Long video, but I did a ton of work and it was a real challenge to condense it to under an hour! I hope everybody enjoys it! What do you think of the longer videos like this? I figure people can always watch it in 2 or 3 sittings if they don't like them that long. Have a great weekend everybody, and let me give another huge thank you to Pappyfromthekeys and Jacques Poirier!
@TheAndrewWScott
@TheAndrewWScott 2 жыл бұрын
I don't mind the long vids. My other 2 channels i keep up with have long vids: Andrew Camarata and Jesse Muller. Yall 3 are the only ones i have the bell notification enabled
@Lucas12v
@Lucas12v 2 жыл бұрын
As long as it's actually interesting, long vids are fine with me.
@jebowlin3879
@jebowlin3879 2 жыл бұрын
Is the ring job gonna lead to more dad jokes? because I could go for more dad jokes :D
@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193
@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, I prefer the longer vids no doubt. Yeah.
@darinwilton9122
@darinwilton9122 2 жыл бұрын
i'm good with long videos. now, take today's engine, let it sit as long as this one did... i don't think it COULD run again. just goes to show how new is never going to be as good as good old. love the work and effort. thank you
@zet0korp
@zet0korp Жыл бұрын
Am i the only one who finds it incredible that all these parts can still be sourced?
@30shandala
@30shandala 8 ай бұрын
Right? Pretty wild.
@thenutfarm-zs4we
@thenutfarm-zs4we 7 ай бұрын
I’m in need of parts for my 1953 JOHNSON TN-28 if you have a parts source.
@bhoiiii
@bhoiiii 2 жыл бұрын
As a teenage boy at heart, there never enough Johnson jokes. Please know your audience. Cheers man.
@kennethellison9713
@kennethellison9713 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, more Johnson jokes please. Lots of Johnson shaft references just begging for a "pregnant" pause, so to speak.
@romeowhiskey1146
@romeowhiskey1146 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennethellison9713 EVEN-RUDE jokes just don't work.
@shirleygirard7352
@shirleygirard7352 2 жыл бұрын
Don's city's auto Cuyahoga Falls ohio
@shirleygirard7352
@shirleygirard7352 2 жыл бұрын
Wilderness
@pierQRzt180
@pierQRzt180 Жыл бұрын
Whoever recognizes one's failures is worth a like.
@jonasvann5387
@jonasvann5387 10 ай бұрын
That flashback about not needing to change the spark plug wire had me 🤣🤣🤣.
@outragequitter5027
@outragequitter5027 2 жыл бұрын
It’s always a shame when your Johnson starts acting up with old age
@pdiddyistrustworthy500
@pdiddyistrustworthy500 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@kennethellison9713
@kennethellison9713 2 жыл бұрын
...and then gets diagnosed by strangers online.
@quagmiredavis4117
@quagmiredavis4117 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennethellison9713 toss some blue pills in tank . Lmao 🤣
@bhaebe6671
@bhaebe6671 2 жыл бұрын
@@quagmiredavis4117 Is this the Big Johnson engine?
@quagmiredavis4117
@quagmiredavis4117 2 жыл бұрын
@@bhaebe6671 oh boat engine my bad thinking different
@jacquespoirier9071
@jacquespoirier9071 2 жыл бұрын
before going deep in the engine block, try a gauge with a shorter hose, the cylinder capacity is so small in comparison with the hose volume that it can cause a false reading, a good idea is to do a wet test before shooting anything. usually, when the compressions becomes low due to wear or stuck rings, the readings differs from one cylinder to another, in your motor, they seems to be very even. If the cylinders are not scored, you can try a cleaning treatment as seafoam, sometimes, it can frees the rings so you don't have to open the short block very good video
@FarmCraft101
@FarmCraft101 2 жыл бұрын
More good tips from Jacques! Thanks again.
@rodeogreenback7280
@rodeogreenback7280 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the legend himself.
@quagmiredavis4117
@quagmiredavis4117 2 жыл бұрын
@@FarmCraft101 marvel mystery oil added to fuel mix with sea foam helps unstuck rings it worked for my 1956 McCullough Scott 25 And 19 57 mercury ... and you can tell by exhaust note when running dead on perfect ... on occasion with my older outboard engines For my fuel mix I use 100 octane racing fuel it really makes a difference even on smaller engines... my 50 Scott sea flash and Chrysler Outboard really wake up on race fuel mix ..... great video thanks for information... and taking time to share
@RCichard
@RCichard 2 жыл бұрын
Great job Jacques! It takes real skill to just listen to an engine... THROUGH THE INTERNET.... and diagnose an issue. You guys are the true heros of social media and the real reason why it should be around IMO. Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge with everyone else :)
@Rickbearcat
@Rickbearcat 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing to think of the length of tube for the compression test...where that is taking up a fairly significant volume of available air-space and giving a false reading...I call that brilliant. *Chef's Kiss* to you.
@mocitybeast
@mocitybeast 2 жыл бұрын
I died laughing when he went to the old clip that said "I'm amazed these wires look good they don't need to be replaced" great editing 🤣🤣🤣
@sadmageboi472
@sadmageboi472 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, hearing you say "lemme get a pointer" brought me back to the bad bitch that came to watch me and my brother who taught me anything from how to revarnish a table to fixing cars and small motors. Thank you for the blast from one of the best parts of my past and may she rest in peace.
@spud4ever290
@spud4ever290 2 жыл бұрын
Wondering when my favorite farmer was gonna chuck a video up !
@FarmCraft101
@FarmCraft101 2 жыл бұрын
Longest video I've ever made. Took literal days editing, and just finished! Phew! ;-)
@mrlawski1014
@mrlawski1014 9 ай бұрын
The first video I watched was the porch rebuild. Personally, I'll watch Your videos no matter how long they are. Your knowledge and single-handed jobs that You show us are awesome. Its amazing how much You know ,being a jack of all trades. Thanks for making these videos. Always worth watching, the longer the better.
@apeck5359
@apeck5359 2 жыл бұрын
Jack of all trades is a master of none But then oftentimes better than a master of one
@bersules
@bersules 2 жыл бұрын
Stumbled upon this video today. I repair a lot of stuff and although I'm not repairing a motor like this I LOVE how you zoom in and show detail. A lot of folks skip over the details but you do a great job showing how these things work and the order parts go on and off. Bravo sir!
@richardfowler9901
@richardfowler9901 11 ай бұрын
Grate bit of entertainment.
@josephhuddart7861
@josephhuddart7861 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@richardfowler9901 9:39 people 🎉😮😅
@josephhuddart7861
@josephhuddart7861 7 ай бұрын
@@richardfowler9901no no
@rodgermckeon
@rodgermckeon 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, please - new rings. I wanna see what this Johnson will do when it's firing on all cylinders and full compression again!
@eisenmannhans7866
@eisenmannhans7866 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah , do the ring job !
@dancaesar7480
@dancaesar7480 2 жыл бұрын
As a backyard mechanic I leared a lot and especially liked the way you admitted mistakes or omissions like putting parts backtogether again. if there are no bolts left on the bench then rebuilding is a success. Many times I find one bolt left on the bench so to me that's success to me. Ha Ha Ha....thanks for the video on the Johnson and the tactor back hoe hydraulics. Dan, Mishawaka, IN.
@phlodel
@phlodel 2 жыл бұрын
I hear Johnson rings improve performance.
@COZMICTOM
@COZMICTOM 2 жыл бұрын
ONLY IF IT TRULY NEEDS RINGS
@kregkloss3114
@kregkloss3114 2 жыл бұрын
Compression test first
@michaellicitra7632
@michaellicitra7632 11 ай бұрын
Very good video! I noticed that the engine after the work did not look like it was pumping as much water as it was before. The telltale was streaming very well before you disasembled the engine. I believe you are losing water internally in the end of the shaft area where the power head mates to the lower unit and here is how: The black carbon ring that was very brittle and broke is a sealing surface and seperates the pumped water from the shaft. It iis by design very hard and brittle and seats itself on the shaft seal. This is somehow part of a chamber where water seems to be accumulated and routed into the engine. Also, the spring is what keeps the carbon seal slightly loaded to effect the action of the seal. The design is not faulty as you think. I really suggest you look at the parts illustration and see how this works (I am guessing here) and your water pump output to the engine block will increase substantially. You did a really thorough job but cooling those engines is really critical.
@rodcros
@rodcros 7 ай бұрын
My mechanic made me promise that I would never again try to change a water pump impeller. He spent a long time getting that shaft back up in. Fine video.
@edwardsullivan5481
@edwardsullivan5481 6 ай бұрын
I'm 69. Lived on the Rogue river in Grants Pass Oregon as a young man, 11-16. My dad had an old wooden boat with with aluminum skin and that same Johnson engine. Our river bank was difficult to navigate without hitting rocks and shearing that propeller pin. I cut some nails up to make a bunch of shear pins so I would be able to head out and be able to change the pin every time I hit a rock. I got used to the rock locations and rarely hit them. My dad not so much. He'd head out with a buddy of his and hit a rock every time. I had to coach him. Every exterior part of that engine and the cotter pin/nut/prop/pin assembly brings back great memories. Took it apart 50 times at least. I could go up river through a couple small rapids till one matched the engine power and the boat would stop advancing. I recently thought about going back there and boating up through that minor rapids. One of those things.
@sloth0jr
@sloth0jr 2 жыл бұрын
Yes please on continuing the work. Since This Old Tony is on hiatus, we need more creators who can make and fix things.
@MoondyneJoe
@MoondyneJoe 2 жыл бұрын
This old Tony has just put a new video out 😁👌and it was good Tony from Western Australia 🇦🇺
@aliasfred
@aliasfred 2 жыл бұрын
Mustie1 is where I get my fix at, when needed.
@aliasfred
@aliasfred 2 жыл бұрын
Btw. I love long videos.
@AlexanderTzalumen
@AlexanderTzalumen 2 жыл бұрын
Coming from an electrical engineer, a condenser isn't "similar to" a capacitor, it is a capacitor. We just don't call them that anymore outside of audio equipment, for some reason.
@brentmcmahon8188
@brentmcmahon8188 Жыл бұрын
They both can knock you on your but.
@AlexanderTzalumen
@AlexanderTzalumen Жыл бұрын
@@brentmcmahon8188 i mean, it's a bulk accumulation of charge in a confined space, what else would it do other than discharge or occaisionally explode?
@JT-dj9hc
@JT-dj9hc 11 ай бұрын
My gosh so many of those old boat motors look like mechanical Art ....just beautiful
@allorenz6591
@allorenz6591 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I actually worked on these back in the day. I was an outboard motor mechanic at an Evinrude Dealer - on the water marina from 1959 to 1963 while in high school. My uncle actually owned that exact Johnson and took me fishing with in Lake Chetek WI when I was 12 years old. Never had to work on his though. By the time 1959 rolled around most every one upgraded to 5hp motors with both Fwd and Reverse gear shifts. OMC recyled that clutch design in the early 60's with separate electromagnets to engage Fwd and Reverse. Good memories for me, thanks.
@urbanhesse6084
@urbanhesse6084 7 ай бұрын
i had one 2
@dennisholst4322
@dennisholst4322 7 ай бұрын
You make good videos
@daveengstrom9250
@daveengstrom9250 2 жыл бұрын
This is a GREAT video. We viewers had a good camera angle to see things well. You did a hell of a job on this engine figuring things out. Now you need to go fishing.
@lelandcox4089
@lelandcox4089 10 ай бұрын
It is a lot of fun to repair older stuff. You can see what is going on with each part and replace it if necessary. Modern stuff is huge wiring harneses with black boxes that cost hundreds and no way to tell if they are the problem!. I love it when it cranks after we get the covers back in place.. My dad had a 12 HP Johnson that we used for years. Thanks for the great video!
@verygoodvibes
@verygoodvibes 8 ай бұрын
nothing better than when the old johnson is working properly... (
@Lucas12v
@Lucas12v 2 жыл бұрын
Back when things were meant to be serviceable and repaired when necessary.
@eddiehawkins7049
@eddiehawkins7049 2 жыл бұрын
We could do humanity a big favour by going back to those days.
@Lucas12v
@Lucas12v 2 жыл бұрын
@@eddiehawkins7049 We need to pair that old mentality with modern technology and materials.
@eelcogg
@eelcogg 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's sad that few people seem interested in fixing old equipment. As I get older it's getting harder and harder to get my Johnson serviced.
@skeptic3332
@skeptic3332 2 жыл бұрын
Pro Tip: The reason you put the gear oil in the bottom is because water and greasy water floats, so if your just doing maintenance it pushes out any lighter than 90 weight contaminants. You don't need any special equipment just the lube in a tube.
@bobbygetsbanned6049
@bobbygetsbanned6049 Жыл бұрын
Wtf no, water does NOT FLOAT in oil! These types of cases are known to get bubbles trapped if you don't fill from the bottom, the bubbles will float to the top instead of getting trapped if you fill from the bottom. Any good marine gear oil will have dispersants that keeps the water suspended in the oil anyways, so you can't get rid of the water without fully draining the oil. If your oil looks milky it has water in it which means you have a leak.
@lufia1624
@lufia1624 Жыл бұрын
This is why i love mechanical shit. Peolle keep telling me about "advancing the spark with the ecu." I'm gonna go show every one of them this video because THIS is what made it click for me.
@jerryhubbard4461
@jerryhubbard4461 10 ай бұрын
Not a single one of us that watches KZbin does not use KZbin for learning purposes. I am one that is always learning. That is why I spend as much as 4 to 5 hours every day of my life watching videos. That may sound excessive but I am retired and still learning. To me I would go nuts without my iMac 27 inch computer with good sound hooked to it. Love to watch music too.
@DanielleWhite
@DanielleWhite 2 жыл бұрын
"Torque specs? HA!" was pretty much the answer when I asked about that for so much of the mid-century machinery on my father's dairy farm.
@TheBeerbelly007
@TheBeerbelly007 2 жыл бұрын
So that's how you tune up your Johnson, I'm going to try that on mine---
@stefantrethan
@stefantrethan Жыл бұрын
That spoony screwdriver is your real secret weapon, I'm going to steal that idea. And thanks for showing us your Johnson.
@dinsdalepiranah8759
@dinsdalepiranah8759 6 ай бұрын
Only catching up with this video now (2 years later). Thanks for taking the time to make a very satisfying and informative video.
@geohazelman7039
@geohazelman7039 2 жыл бұрын
Good job Jac and Pappy!
@evilkidd174
@evilkidd174 2 жыл бұрын
Some people would see the top port on the gear box marked FILL and the bottom marked DRAIN. And still argue that the manufacturer was wrong.
@UpdogGolf
@UpdogGolf 2 жыл бұрын
Dude my fucking chest hurts from laughing.... "a 1 cyclinder mower sounds good too" *finds out one cyclinder is dead* im crying and subbed
@TheGhostzZ
@TheGhostzZ Жыл бұрын
There was something hilariously comic in looking at the poor guy getting shocked multiple times while checking for spark on the wire that wasn't working before 😂
@charles1075
@charles1075 2 жыл бұрын
Suggestion to add a random part number to future video titles. It will confuse the hell out of new subscribers, some won't get it, but a few of us will know the ridiculousness of no part numbers on hydrolics
@Purplethesheep
@Purplethesheep 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about these old engines and other machines are the mechanical solutions to electrical problems. Life before logic gates and microchips took a lot of creativity
@NineSun001
@NineSun001 2 жыл бұрын
I never get these comments. As if throwing microchips on something magically resolves problems. You just introduce a boatload of new problems that need their own kind of inginuity and creativity. Always the same "mechanics good, informatics bad" ape-like mindset. Take a look at ben eater to really get used to what kind of problems you get with informatics and how inhumanly complicated it really is to solve something with informatics. You need both mechanics and informatics to build the real crazy machines. I mean hadron-collider-class of crazy. Where nearly everthing is machined and programed to absolute perfection.
@ericsprado4631
@ericsprado4631 2 жыл бұрын
No kidding. Used to be that,usually, if you had a spare plug and shear pin you could probably get your outboard home..
@chain3519
@chain3519 11 ай бұрын
I gotta say, the design of this little motor is quite elegant
@jonh901271
@jonh901271 8 ай бұрын
I am amazed at the 1950s engineering that went into designing the components to fit into a compact outboard motor.
@Bass.Player
@Bass.Player 2 жыл бұрын
When it's running on one cylinder you can hear it carrying the other cylinder, it has a distinctive sound that's hard to mistake once you recognize it. I was an auto tech for 30 years, I did run-ability, fuel injection and electrical. You can pick this sound up even if it's a 12 cylinder...
@stephensomersify
@stephensomersify 2 жыл бұрын
Enthralled, immersed and impressed for an evening's viewing - DoB 1950 - UK
@thra5herxb12s
@thra5herxb12s 2 жыл бұрын
I saw what you did there. It's Putt putt putting up a fight. Doh !! 😂
@LostDeadSoul
@LostDeadSoul Жыл бұрын
The level of self-righteousness has reached an all time high (maybe) and thus people will spew their "knowledge" as if it is has the utmost importance. Some even say, "Omg why are you just giving your knowledge away" and which i regard as wiser than the before mentioned. But the ones that know what they are talking about, keep talking and educating others in a respectful manner, giving good advice. Nice :)
@robertjwilliams3532
@robertjwilliams3532 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I with my granddad fished with one of these. Hearing it in the video, it did not sound like I remembered. I just figured time had overcome my fond memories. BUT maybe I was right to feel something was not right. THANKS fellows for helping me feel good that my childhood memories are some of the time true .
@highvoltage1523
@highvoltage1523 2 жыл бұрын
When my outboard ran on one cylinder, it was wobbling a lot. Last video I thougth this is just how old engines sound, but it sounds much better now!
@konarichcv
@konarichcv 11 ай бұрын
Paying attention to comments shows mega intelligence. Way to stay on the ball
@ralphfolk18
@ralphfolk18 Жыл бұрын
I'm not paying for the overhaul so DO It! You will have a new engine and your Gramps will be so proud 👏 😊
@jsteins
@jsteins 2 жыл бұрын
Nice brass remake for the broken seal rung under engine mount. At 27:29 when putting the lower end together, your 3-bolt backing plate is off center, and clockwise about 8-degrees; but should not matter, since the force when tightening bolts still distributes evenly on snap ring. It is also visible on your "pleasing snap install" repeated at the end. As for changing the rings... 2-stroke engines are pulling fuel/oil/air mix in from carb through lower case *under* pistons (giving lubrication) then mix goes through side intake port. This means blow-by past rings mixes some exhaust with intake, reducing power. BTW: see if your compression test goes back toward 80psi with throttle wide open, and after you spin engine 5 seconds with plug wires off, to add some oil mix to cylinder walls. Another trick to check for cylinder wear, and blow-by past rings: (1) Attach socket+breaker bar to nut on top of crank and *hold*. (2) Turn regulator down below 50psi on compressor, and attach line directly to pressure test hose going into spark plug hole. (fittings are the same). This will try to toss wrench, so hold first. (3) Slowly turn wrench+crank 2/3 of stroke until starting to reach exhaust port. Listen for changes to sound of blow-by air hiss and you should be able to tell if ring seal is even for different parts of cylinder or worn near TDC. (4) Repeat for 2nd piston, using different TDC position. Some air going past rings is normal; but you don't want excessive smoke going back in lower case while running. Also check for worn seals where crank shaft comes out of case. Leak around crank seals on 2-stroke can suck air, causing you to run lean/hot at high RPM.
@michaelmartinez1345
@michaelmartinez1345 2 жыл бұрын
@ Joseph Steinhauser, good observation of the replacements that are required of the Upper and Lower crankshaft seals... This alone could really bring that little 2-stroke twin back to life... I like using the 'cranking type' of dynamic compression testers on engines, which will tell if excessive leakage is taking place, Anywhere between the cylinders, Pistons & Rings...
@IronHeadCycle
@IronHeadCycle 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure the throttle plate is wide open when you check the compression, it makes a difference. If there is no air to compress (closed throttle) the compression will read low.
@philbudne2095
@philbudne2095 2 жыл бұрын
Throttle position shouldn't matter on a two-stroke and the engine out of water exhaust port is another path for air to get in
@machew2009
@machew2009 2 жыл бұрын
On a 2 stroke should really be doing a leak down test and not so much a compression test
@michaelmartinez1345
@michaelmartinez1345 2 жыл бұрын
@@philbudne2095 the exhaust is not a path for air to enter an engine (2-stroke spark ignition engines included) while it is cranking... Intake air & fuel goes through the induction system then through the reeds/or rotary valves/ or the piston ports & into the crankcase, where it is compressed, then forced through the transfer ports and into the cylinder while the exhaust from the previous cycle is forced out by this incoming air flow, from the transfer ports, then compress's & ignites the incoming charge... The throttle & choke must remain open for an accurate compression test...
@philbudne2095
@philbudne2095 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmartinez1345 In a compression test the gauge is screwed in in place of spark plug and no ignition takes place, so there is no exhaust, and air can enter via the exhaust port. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5jVemaeh7athaM
@ALCE52
@ALCE52 Жыл бұрын
thats actually what I wanted to say, but not mechanical enough put my two cents in Thank you ironhead cycle..
@geoffmorgan6059
@geoffmorgan6059 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, look at all that metal! No "high impact" plastic to refuse repair and clog the landfills! All that old inefficient technology! These machines were made to last, establish a (deserved or otherwise) reputation for the manufacturer and be repaired with minimal skills. We wonder why there is so much discarded today... My Dad bought a Martin 55 in 1953 (I think my memory is correct on the year). I talked a year or so to the man's son who bought the motor from us in the 1970's and it is still running today! Thanks for the video!
@alanadale1945
@alanadale1945 10 ай бұрын
Well , my johnson needs an overhaul too . couldn't resist
@dipling.pitzler7650
@dipling.pitzler7650 2 жыл бұрын
Just the " 5 Sea horse" decal is worth the work on this old Johnson ! PS: Rubber O rings should be rather lubricated using Glycerin or a water soluble lube not grease .
@brucepickess8097
@brucepickess8097 2 жыл бұрын
Hi from the UK. Just for your info condensers and capacitors are one of the same. Capacitor is the modern name for condenser.🙂
@timd1833
@timd1833 11 ай бұрын
Back in the 50's, my uncle from Houston would come down to the central Texas coast and go fishing in the bays with my Dad. My uncle had a 2 cylinder Johnson like this (?) and my Dad had the boat. One time, they launched the boat and could not get the Johnson started. Pulled and pulled on the rope. Thinking some jokesters had swapped the plug wires, they tried swapping them and the motor started right up. A-ha, so they thought. They set out for a reef to set trotlines for redfish. Made it there, set the lines and tried to head back to their camp. Motor would not start. After much cranking and cussing, they swapped the plug wires back to where they were originally and the motor started. Motor ran fine in the morning when they went to check the lines and on the return to camp. When they got to my Dad's home, Dad chewed my older brothers out for 'playing a trick' by switching the plug wires. Innocent of that, my brothers denied doing it. Eventually, the fact that the motor started once they swapped the wires and then had to be swapped again to get it started brought some logic back into the "discussion". Turns out, the shear pin on the flywhell had sheared and threw the timing off exactly 180 degrees TWICE and then remained in the correct spot to allow it to run for the rest of their fishing trip. Long story but quite a tale to hear my Dad tell it. R.I.P. Dad.
@charliebelle6693
@charliebelle6693 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! The sound of the engine running take me back to the late 60's and early 70's with my dad. I would be so tired from getting up early and fishing all day that I would fall asleep in the bow propped up on a couple life jackets. I look at his 1943 Johnson Sea Horse 5hp almost everyday in my basement. I wish I had half your talent to rebuild his.
@Locane256
@Locane256 2 жыл бұрын
10:40 lmao I'm loving the echoey-voice flashbacks from the previous video 😂
@Huzzahgamers_inc
@Huzzahgamers_inc 2 жыл бұрын
I love your willingness to learn and temper control. I can tell you, this Christian man would have had some asking for forgiveness after some of those encounters. :P But thankfully a little grace goes a long way. Also That was a genius move to fabricate that part as a whole. Great replacement idea.
@tombastion8097
@tombastion8097 Жыл бұрын
WOW, not too many guys will do that much to an old boat motor and keep trying more things , but i love those old motors but probably because i was born in 1948.. thanks for that one
@FraLin
@FraLin Жыл бұрын
there is so many people spending so many hours just watching how someone else does some good job, so they feel they should find a tiny chance to be the clever guy with a comment!
@aboelishes
@aboelishes 2 жыл бұрын
great video, great machining. But you forgot to put on a parts-number (on the machined bushing)
@FarmCraft101
@FarmCraft101 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Darn it, that would've been a great addition to the video!!
@Rickbearcat
@Rickbearcat 2 жыл бұрын
@@FarmCraft101 ...If you are going to tear it apart to do the rings, might as well remove that bushing and stamp a few numbers on it.
@flintcoat2596
@flintcoat2596 2 жыл бұрын
The oil from bottom is a hold over from many marine engines from WW II! Then, the gear boxes were filled with grease, like a grease gun. It was always added from the bottom to push all the air out of gears. Your Chinese finger thingy is a device to keep engine from running backwards as 2 stroke engines are capable of, especially at low speeds
@Gaudwin1
@Gaudwin1 Жыл бұрын
Your seal jokes are not very funny, but I still found myself laughing for the first time the 40th time I saw it on this video. I'm hooked on you; I can't stop watching you, even if I know nothing about what you're doing.
@brian1204
@brian1204 2 жыл бұрын
A good mechanic is worth their weight in gold! And no, I’m not a mechanic!
@WhatAboutTheBee
@WhatAboutTheBee 2 жыл бұрын
Subscription added! Anyone who plays with his Johnson on a public youTube channel for three hours deserves a subscription. Because who doesn't want to watch that?!?
@williamphillips6779
@williamphillips6779 2 жыл бұрын
Come on, we all know that you want rings for your Johnson.... Actually, I like the idea of a complete rebuild of that engine - I think it deserves it.
@deadwood3764
@deadwood3764 Жыл бұрын
Hah when i was a kid,my sister was able to get me water skiing on 2 ski's.Dingy fiberglass,she would move to front then magically all the sudden i was able to pop up out of the water.Took alot of try's but we amazed the other lake folk that laughed and said it could not be done.My old Johnson 5 really had it's work out in those past summer day's.Thank's for vids .Longer vids i say ok !
@mencken8
@mencken8 2 жыл бұрын
My uncle had one that looked just like this. Ran for decades. Always remember it clamped to a sawhorse in his basement.
@OutBoardTink62
@OutBoardTink62 2 жыл бұрын
Your 100% correct in filling this model from the top as it has a kind of an open chamber large oil cavity. Later models designs was changed to a smaller closed chamber system requiring filling from the bottom. Most people dont know this and say fill from the bottom understandably. Nice Work with the machining lathes are always handy .That bottom ring that broke is made from carbon possibly so it is very brittle. These TN models were big sellers in the early 50S for Johnson they sold thousands of them and there still around today, great little kickers. The proof is in how nice it ran on one cylinder. Which is how they were designed if a problem with one occurred ,so you got back to the dock instead of rowing and cursing, LOL!..
@sldkjh
@sldkjh 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to know how they were designed. I found out my Evinrude 15 hp was running on one cylinder after I left it at my uncles place. Sometimes it would have 15 hp, sometimes it would have about 6 and guzzle gas... The ignition lead just had to be replaced and it would have been ok again. It probably still is at my uncles place but I can't use it anymore in the city because it is a 2 stroke. I would love to be able to use it again because it was a kicker when it ran on both cylinders and it sounded very nice.
@josephsfields
@josephsfields 2 жыл бұрын
I vote for the rings. I learn a lot from watching another man work on his Johnson even if it's much smaller than my own. Mine's a 1978 Johnson SeaHorse 120 HP. It's a two hander but still all the same principals. Other than that, I'm not surprised that the country is divided over how to fill a lower unit. Anyone that shares the way they do it is a friend and anyone that tries to tell you how you got to do it is should be dismissed as a Karen.
@johnarnold2001
@johnarnold2001 2 жыл бұрын
And seals
@1jtwister
@1jtwister 2 жыл бұрын
the size of your Johnson only matters if it is getting wet regularly
@Hensleytheultimatehoundsman
@Hensleytheultimatehoundsman 2 жыл бұрын
@@1jtwister a small johnson can work just depends on the motion of the ocean
@SwampDonkey64
@SwampDonkey64 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a wise man that knows how little he knows.
@MichaelClark-uw7ex
@MichaelClark-uw7ex 2 жыл бұрын
Greatest clickbait in history. Nice old outboard though, glad you keep her in good shape. I like how you use the bucket for testing, I always used a steel drum, just clamp it on the rim, don't need a transom and you can hang it outside the drum to work on the lower unit.
@L1mJahey
@L1mJahey 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you cleaned up all those fluids after your Johnson exploded.... This series has been great btw :D
@RichieLott
@RichieLott 2 жыл бұрын
Really like your approach to problems and the patience you have. Thank you for taking the time to edit and post quality content.. This is the same engine my grandfather had and I still have it. I'm now inspired to see if we can destroy it or either get it running! Hopefully running.. Not destroyed. Thanks again, enjoyed the series of vids on this engine. 👍
@cjpmedic
@cjpmedic 2 жыл бұрын
When you got zapped it took me right back to about age 8, when my dad was teaching me on almost an identical outboard and had me hold the plug and look for spark! 😂 He thought it was HYSTERICAL, mom…..not so much.
@wayngoodman3099
@wayngoodman3099 6 ай бұрын
John, you got a big-nosed happy-faced Johnson behind that snap ring… this was fun to watch!
@williamglaser6577
@williamglaser6577 2 жыл бұрын
Might as well and do the rings, then you will have a complete rebuild.
@CSkwirl
@CSkwirl 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the compression, i recently fixed an old chainsaw for a guy, he'd been running it on cheap 2 stroke oil and it had very little compression. I did not remove the cylinder (so nothing was upset) and put in some good mix with full synthetic 2 stroke (Motul 800) and the compression about doubled, completely different saw Also the piston had a LOT of wear, looking through the exhaust port it was polished shiny and the ring was well worn, whole lot was due for replacement but got it running good enough for him
@f.h.9606
@f.h.9606 2 жыл бұрын
I'm behind this. Your Johnson seems to be pretty strong the way it is. No need to fool around. Like Skwirl said, just use some good oil and give him some time. Otherwise, if you have too much time on your hands ... fooling around with your Johnson is always a good way to spend your time...
@CSkwirl
@CSkwirl 2 жыл бұрын
@@f.h.9606 Yes, you have to make sure you're using the correct lubricant when extensively testing your Johnson
@jackiehopson8334
@jackiehopson8334 2 жыл бұрын
Impressed by the viewers diagnosis. They must have spent many hours in front of one of those outboards
@ThePillenwerfer
@ThePillenwerfer 6 ай бұрын
Condenser is the old name for a capacitor. The motor industry seems like the only one that never changed.
@terrydease5234
@terrydease5234 2 жыл бұрын
I am not a mechanic but I really enjoyed both episodes. Great job.
@waynebaird3539
@waynebaird3539 Жыл бұрын
Although this video is almost a year ago, I must commend you on your skills and determination. Thanks.
@woodsmn8047
@woodsmn8047 2 жыл бұрын
love these old Johnson's remember them fondly from my youth ... no not quite like that ....but from fishing on Henrey's lake two Johnson's engines one for power ..a thirty five horse .. and another like this one for trolling
@neutrino68
@neutrino68 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting us watch while you work on your old Johnson.🙂
@1DIYGuy
@1DIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Regrind your lathe parting blade. Grind the end so that the right side cuts off your newly turned part 1st. This allows parting bade to advance a couple of thousands and remove what is left. Great patience ... or good editing. Thanks for the mechanic lesson.
@johnsumner2987
@johnsumner2987 2 жыл бұрын
Its always gratifying to get a snap ring in place.
@collinschubert6940
@collinschubert6940 11 ай бұрын
LOL loved the echoing flashback complementing the spark plug wires. In my mind this tends to happen often.
@kypackerfan4-12-15
@kypackerfan4-12-15 11 ай бұрын
My Father worked at the OMC Evinrude assembly plant for 34 years. OMC produced both Evinrude and Johnson Outboard motors there. He did many repairs for relatives, friends and neighbors at home. He taught my brothers and I how to do all of these basic repairs on motors from 1.1hp up to 55hp. My older brother and I also worked at the Milw, WI Plant 2(Assembly Plant) in the mid 70's- early 80's until they shut down. Fill from the top hole until oil comes out. A few drops more or less doesn't matter. My Father always used Brown, non-hardening Permatex on all of those gaskets and the Gear Housing cover. A good tip, always carry a couple extra shear pins, an extra cotter pin and a pair of pliers when you go out boating.
@ruma7819
@ruma7819 2 жыл бұрын
I think you messed up the adjustments on one of the points. The crank lobe wasn't aligned with it and the backfiring could possibly have something to do with that. It also seems like you have an exhaust leak on the stem. Probably a broken rubber seal there too. Well, old rubber you know. If you're going to take apart the head I would definitely change the crank shaft seals in the same process.
@agurdel
@agurdel 2 жыл бұрын
The leak is visible at around 49:00, spitting water.
@reginalddentry7338
@reginalddentry7338 2 жыл бұрын
Are you saying he could of corrected the problem and missed a step or is it a Pandora’s box
@michaelwelsh798
@michaelwelsh798 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed video. I have a 1950 Johnson TN 26 that is very similar, but it has the older style coils and points. After cleaning the points, I have good spark, so I'm leaving the magneto alone. I put a new impeller in the water pump, and it ran okay when I started it up several years ago. This year, I decided to get it out again, but the carburetor needs to be rebuilt, so I am thankful for your explanation. Keep up the great work!
@rusty383
@rusty383 Жыл бұрын
Your dad would be so proud of you to fix his motor .Your Dad put the where and tear on it . I would leave it to Honor him and remember. Some things are just special. You know ❤
@jaredpeterson380
@jaredpeterson380 Жыл бұрын
My dad bought a 5 hp Johnson for me when I was 10 in 1960. Stayed at a resort on Leech lake MN. For the summer. Hearing that motor running out on the lake was like music to me. Thank you!
@camm668
@camm668 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. When I was a kid in the 90's, I had a '67 Johnson 6 horse on a small aluminum boat that I had lots of fun with going around the lake at my grandparents summer cottage. I would agree that a new head gasket and rings would help to bring the compression back up to new and give it its full power.
@greggdsciotto8952
@greggdsciotto8952 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I've seen in a while, very enjoyable. Your video editing and humor are great. And, Johnson jokes are always appreciated!
@jimwhall6609
@jimwhall6609 11 ай бұрын
I have a couple uncles like that. Old auto industry guys who could hear an engine and tell you what was wrong with it. To me it was like magic.
@robertdover2236
@robertdover2236 2 жыл бұрын
Several years ago I bought a boat that had two engines similar to the one you were working on. I found a guy that could rebuild it but he said I would be wasting his time and my money. When those engines were built gas had lead in it and it would coat the valves as kind of a lubricant (or something like that). He said since they have taken the lead out the valves will burn up and they would need to be replaced. If I had him rebuild them I could only use 93 or higher octane without alcohol. He said any gas with alcohol would burn them out faster. He said he could rebuild it for $600 (that was back in 2004), but I wouldn't be happy for long. He suggested I take the money and put it toward a newer motor. Good luck.
@testbenchdude
@testbenchdude 2 жыл бұрын
Really loving the long form videos. I'm having a bit of a stressful beginning to the weekend so it was super nice to come down to my home office after everyone else had gone to bed and just tune out the rest of the world for almost an hour. Many thanks, man.
@Rickbearcat
@Rickbearcat 2 жыл бұрын
I second this motion.
@playnhrd
@playnhrd 2 жыл бұрын
Heard a little AvE in your presentation. I truly enjoyed your efforts and your commentary, measured and thoughtful, thanks for the video. I suppose it was a blast from the past that my first outboard experience was as a young teen with a Johnson 20 in the 60s. I agree with you, the length is perhaps an issue, but those that wish to see every step will appreciate it, and those uninterested have the opportunity to fast forward to the finish to see if you were successful. Thanks again.
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich Жыл бұрын
I would approve of more Johnson content.
@thomasgibson8025
@thomasgibson8025 11 ай бұрын
Here's an aggressive comment. Great job, your right about filling the gear case and I laughed out loud when you got plug bit. ❤ It happened to me way too many times. Duh, you would think I learned. No, double duh!! Thanks for the most excellent video.😊
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