My Lawyer's Seen the Bodies - Law & Order

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@parycartoons6840
@parycartoons6840 3 жыл бұрын
"Because I was closer to the phone, that's why," I love that line.
@aaronburgin1442
@aaronburgin1442 3 жыл бұрын
You can't tell me that you weren't creeped out by Mark Bruner. Especially the scene when he was in the house with Green and Briscoe. Richie Coster played the sh*t out of this role!
@Roonlovesfish3874
@Roonlovesfish3874 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, superb actor.
@bull705
@bull705 3 жыл бұрын
@@Roonlovesfish3874 Personally I prefer him in Invaders.
@lPlanetarizado
@lPlanetarizado 2 жыл бұрын
yes, it gets you unconfortable
@misterwhipple2870
@misterwhipple2870 Жыл бұрын
They should have shot him in the belly the second he turned around with that knife.
@dave929
@dave929 Жыл бұрын
Just think if Heath Ledger had the role……
@vintage1950
@vintage1950 3 жыл бұрын
‘I’m bored’ lord that’s a psychopath there. Then he grasses on his lawyer, dude noooo.
@bigfrankfraser1391
@bigfrankfraser1391 9 ай бұрын
i was never a criminal, but i used to be as bad as that, id get into fist fights with teachers just because i was bored, i once smashed a mug off a classmates head because they asked me what the time was, i was violent because i could be, thankfully i got treated and now have a quiet life with my wife and 11 kids
@crimps321
@crimps321 3 жыл бұрын
Why did he make the motion? Because it's a lawyer's duty to be the best advocate for their client! Ah, this show.
@AndyCutright
@AndyCutright 3 жыл бұрын
Right? The defense attorney is both paid to fight, and ethically _obligated_ to fight for his client. This show is just ..
@shadowrobot7708
@shadowrobot7708 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndyCutright I also don't get how literally every single defense attorney on this show is amoral or argues for themselves using bad logic that no one would ever use.
@bull705
@bull705 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowrobot7708 I disagree! I respect many of the defense attorneys. Arthur Gold, Shambala Green, Danielle Melnick to name a few. All of the above are believable advocates for their client but the idiot in this episode seemed more concerned with his own career than his client's.
@richardvinsen2385
@richardvinsen2385 3 жыл бұрын
@@bull705 his client’s career?
@Barrythebarnabas
@Barrythebarnabas 9 ай бұрын
@alexbrown7708 Amber Heards Lawyer lol. Real people this stupid actually exist
@kimidanger1150
@kimidanger1150 3 жыл бұрын
this guy is really good at portraying a CREEP, i was crawling out of my skin. "i'm bored" yeesh. haha
@michaeldiekmann6494
@michaeldiekmann6494 3 жыл бұрын
Richie Costa, I believe
@Deborahtunes
@Deborahtunes 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when ADA Abbie Carmichael was going up against another serial killer on this show. He stared her down as if she was going to be his next victim. Abbie stood her ground though. Angie Harmon will always be one of my favorite attorneys on L&O...
@thegangsteroflove6802
@thegangsteroflove6802 3 жыл бұрын
I love Serena bat Angie is the best ADA in the show
@Deborahtunes
@Deborahtunes 3 жыл бұрын
@@thegangsteroflove6802 ~ 👍 Abbie and Jack were my two favorites...
@fromthehaven94
@fromthehaven94 3 жыл бұрын
Abbie bluffing about the case in Houston, forcing him to confess and not be extradited to Texas. Where they "pull the switch" much quicker.
@Deborahtunes
@Deborahtunes 3 жыл бұрын
@@fromthehaven94 ~ Yup, I loved it. Do you remember that episode's title?
@Icecube88
@Icecube88 3 жыл бұрын
that was the arian brotherhood dude or neo nazi dude? i know he was white supremacist.
@rabbitsfoot8
@rabbitsfoot8 3 жыл бұрын
Years later and that guy still give me the creeps...seriously If I saw him (irl...looking like that) i'd cross the street
@kevinmichaelcallihansr5053
@kevinmichaelcallihansr5053 3 жыл бұрын
In real life, seeing and hearing one of these sick killers describe what they did, one will most likely never forget how "brains and lawyers" make for better film lovers! I know this for a fact.
@fromthehaven94
@fromthehaven94 3 жыл бұрын
That lawyer, wanting to make a name for himself. He hitched onto the wrong horse.
@bull705
@bull705 3 жыл бұрын
And he got what he deserved!
@djktsjytej
@djktsjytej 3 жыл бұрын
@@bull705 How so? The guy was ambitious and wanted to make a name for himself. He can't help that his own client put him in the situation he was in. And it's the DA and judge to blame for forcefully trying to make him break his oath as a lawyer. Even with a heinous monster, revealing information given to by a client to the police or prosecutor sets a dangerous precedent of how protected privileged information really is between clients and professionals. With Schwimmer, he can gain a reputation that he will give away information you give him. A precedent could be set that the state is allowed to bully and coerce you into give away private information. The guy knew the information was important and wanted to give it away, but he's obligated by his oath as a legal representative to keep all information confidential.
@djktsjytej
@djktsjytej 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great episode, but I hated how things ended. The lawyer is right in his stance as he swore an oath and had an obligation to maintain his silence with the information the serial killer gave him. Sure, he did go to the spot, but he also had a right to confirm information given to him. The DA and police were basically bullying him to give up information he was obligated to keep. Trying to coerce him to break his oath. Even with his client dead or deemed to be executed no matter what, the information is still privileged information. If anything, it should be illegal for the police and the state to forcefully coerce people into breaking their oaths. Schwimmer's character should have a return where he is suing the state for sentencing him for not breaking his oath and treating like an accomplice.
@MrJpc1234
@MrJpc1234 10 ай бұрын
The one thing that annoyed me about law and order is that while it's ok to to have characters have morally grey positions the show often seemed to not have consequences for the good guys
@joppy879
@joppy879 6 ай бұрын
'Bodies', Ritchie Coster played Bruner to perfection.
@bonniedavidson5940
@bonniedavidson5940 3 жыл бұрын
My God, that was a horrifyingly terrific performance. Hats off to Richie Coster.
@denisenoe7746
@denisenoe7746 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect performance.
@rabbitsfoot8
@rabbitsfoot8 3 жыл бұрын
Ok why on earth would a lawyer go see the bodies of his client: Client:....um yeah so i have some bodies to show you Me....um yeah no thanks....I think i'll be recusing myself How do you even get to that convo as a lawyer...I thought you're not supposed to ask or care if they did it....
@fromthehaven94
@fromthehaven94 3 жыл бұрын
I would take the client's word for it, unless any evidence proves otherwise.
@Nevertoleave
@Nevertoleave 3 жыл бұрын
“Sure sure, I’ll be right over” ... “hello 911?”
@raymondweston8997
@raymondweston8997 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the bodies is protected under Attorney Client Privilege. An attorney, much like a therapist; can not disclose confessed prior crimes / incidents. They can only report on prospective future crimes, or crimes that they know are currently in progress. If the Attorney discloses about something confessed to them, by a client; the attorney can be censured, or even disbarred. This nutjob ratted himself out. Even if a JUDGE asked the Attorney about seeing the bodies. The attorney can admit to having knowledge about evidence. But can cover himself with the blanket of Attorney client privilege.
@LB-gz3ke
@LB-gz3ke 3 жыл бұрын
He is a very inexperienced lawyer. He admits this. He just didn't think it through. He made one huge mistake by doing that but didn't want to compound that by violating attorney/client privilege. The moral dilemma for him makes this episode even better.
@bull705
@bull705 3 жыл бұрын
@@LB-gz3ke No it made it worse since he could have went to the ethics committee for actual advice on how to proceed but no he decided to be a selfish twit.
@2degucitas
@2degucitas 3 жыл бұрын
Actor playing the murderer is very good. Really creepy.
@yesterdayitrained
@yesterdayitrained 3 жыл бұрын
Yes he was- at first I thought he was just insane, but no. He knows his fate is sealed one way or another, so it’s all just a game to him. Probably always was.
@michaeldiekmann6494
@michaeldiekmann6494 3 жыл бұрын
Richie Costa, I believe. Was the Chechen Joker fed to the dogs in Dark Knight.
@MrUndersolo
@MrUndersolo 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldiekmann6494 Ah, I knew it! I just could not place the face...at first!
@brutustantheiii8477
@brutustantheiii8477 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldiekmann6494 I LOVED that Chechen character in the Dark Knight . Man this guy IS talented
@brutustantheiii8477
@brutustantheiii8477 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldiekmann6494 “who’s stupid enough to steal from us” such an underrated line IMO
@MrUndersolo
@MrUndersolo 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the body language of that killer. Can't even sit without giving me the creeps...
@danlapidus3827
@danlapidus3827 3 жыл бұрын
Whoever that actor is they got to play the serial killer is brilliant
@juliantapia1407
@juliantapia1407 3 жыл бұрын
Very unique performance
@ryanthunderhammer9970
@ryanthunderhammer9970 3 жыл бұрын
I believe his name is Richie Costner
@artytoons3447
@artytoons3447 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanthunderhammer9970 Richie Coster also played a nasty Law & Order Criminal Intent bad guy....a war criminal who kidnapped the family of a man who owed money and raped the daughter. Detectives Goren and Eames busted him.
@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants
@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants 3 жыл бұрын
The actor playing the killer Ritchie Coster reminds me of Kevin Spacey for some reason.In real life he is English so his fake American accent is impressive.
@irishpogi
@irishpogi 3 жыл бұрын
Richard Coster does a great job playing unhinged characters!
@AwinoWrites
@AwinoWrites 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I need some space from my screen now.
@buchiklop110
@buchiklop110 3 жыл бұрын
Question. I know about the whole attorney/client privilege, but was there a way he could have laid hints to McCoy about where the bodies were? Near the end of the episode, he starts talking about his childhood at a lake and I figured it was him working on a gambit to give hints to McCoy about where to find the body without expressly violating said privilege.
@kesselster
@kesselster 3 жыл бұрын
Criminal defense attorney. No. A/C privilege is the oldest and most sacred of the evidentiary privileges. Counsel is not permitted to circumvent the privilege by "dropping hints" and the like.
@Nandoswitharando
@Nandoswitharando 2 жыл бұрын
He can do it, it just wouldn’t be legal or ethical lol
@cdizzle5495
@cdizzle5495 Жыл бұрын
But isn't withholding evidence a big no no for both sides?
@carmelopappalardo8477
@carmelopappalardo8477 Жыл бұрын
P years ago before John gacy was charged He started losing it mentally. The investigation was affecting him. His attorney was visited by the police after Gacy had a long conversation with him. The only thing Gacy's attorney could say to the cops was do not let him out of your sight. He was concerned Gacy would commit another crime and possibly kill himself at the same time.
@MrBmick79
@MrBmick79 9 ай бұрын
they say Gacy had a lot of help..@@carmelopappalardo8477
@jameswallwork2493
@jameswallwork2493 3 жыл бұрын
That was chilling 😳
@Darklighter75
@Darklighter75 3 жыл бұрын
I could never be a lawyer. My soul would get in the way.
@ryanthunderhammer9970
@ryanthunderhammer9970 3 жыл бұрын
3:54 Probably the best music I’ve heard on this show
@monicajewinsky
@monicajewinsky 3 жыл бұрын
So this is what that Chechen dude in Batman did before he became a gangster.
@yanderefangirl8317
@yanderefangirl8317 3 жыл бұрын
Which show or movie was he in?
@demetrimagnesium8545
@demetrimagnesium8545 3 жыл бұрын
Yandere Fangirl the dark knight
@michaeldiekmann6494
@michaeldiekmann6494 3 жыл бұрын
Actor was Richie Costa
@sonrouge
@sonrouge 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I know real life isn't the same as Law & Order. But I still have a hard time wrapping my head around how lawyers are able to do what they do sometimes.
@davidhoward437
@davidhoward437 3 жыл бұрын
Because without lawyers the state becomes judge, jury and executioner. Think of the worst politician you know and imagine that person having absolute power.
@mr.d.572
@mr.d.572 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidhoward437 I don't have to imagine - Biden is there in the WH now.
@joshwarren5059
@joshwarren5059 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.d.572 Better than trump though at least 😁
@mr.d.572
@mr.d.572 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshwarren5059 How? He's destroying everything related to this country and it's foundations. Trump cared about America and this guy cares only about pleasing a radical far left base and a Globalist cabal.
@javier6877
@javier6877 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.d.572 He cared so much that he instigated a mob to storm the capitol and a couple of people died. A saint if you ask me.
@ignesistindel8066
@ignesistindel8066 3 жыл бұрын
When you let sick people and proud of harass who they murdered, you mentioned the word respect
@t-rexcellentreviews1663
@t-rexcellentreviews1663 Жыл бұрын
Halfway through a conversation with a guy like this, I would have just walked out and said. “Keep your secrets, I’d rather get a syringe ready for you.” As I went, stopping listening and deny him any sort of final satisfaction.
@gregbradshaw7220
@gregbradshaw7220 Жыл бұрын
Yeah no
@BlaxkSun
@BlaxkSun 9 ай бұрын
He already got that
@darconious524
@darconious524 3 жыл бұрын
The lawyer played James in spin city and both characters have one thing in common, they don't tend to make the best choices
@alexanderchaplin6749
@alexanderchaplin6749 3 жыл бұрын
Fair.
@Rojum55
@Rojum55 Жыл бұрын
That ladies and gentleman, is what we call, A POWER MOVE
@lilwoowoowoozie9242
@lilwoowoowoozie9242 Жыл бұрын
@1:09-@1:14 who's gonna tell McCoy??😂😂😂
@bellerain381
@bellerain381 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the lawyer on SCRUBS? The guy who conned Elliot into giving him meds and Jordan into giving him money?
@E.JayViera
@E.JayViera 3 жыл бұрын
Yea. Alexander Chaplin. He also played James on the first 4 seasons of Spin City with Michael J. Fox.
@spankster54
@spankster54 3 жыл бұрын
He is also Bonnies therapist on Mom
@Vesperitis
@Vesperitis 3 жыл бұрын
And then Cox did his victory dance when Elliot finally figured out he was conning her for drugs.
@Vesperitis
@Vesperitis 3 жыл бұрын
And then Cox did his victory dance when Elliot finally figured out he was conning her for drugs.
@bull705
@bull705 3 жыл бұрын
@@E.JayViera How can a man with the last name of Chaplin be so boring a n actor?
@terrynasonisasupervillain9017
@terrynasonisasupervillain9017 3 жыл бұрын
I love law and order
@jjr1728
@jjr1728 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. The original run with Jerry Orbach was golden. I can't stand SVU with its wokeness and pathetic Olivia Benson storylines as if she's Wonder Woman and has no flaws. Same with Criminal Intent with its contrived glitzy/OTT scripts like something out of a Hollywood story.
@AndyCutright
@AndyCutright 3 жыл бұрын
"Practice." The guy is not a defense lawyer. Defense's job is to fight mercilessly for the client, no matter what. The DA is just .. typical. DA thinks defendants don't deserve good counsel. Everyone arrested is guilty. AND FOR GOD'S SAKE DO NOT JUST SIT IN AN INTERROGATION AND CONFESS. The defense lawyer should have ended the interview before it started. Holy ..
@MattStanton1999
@MattStanton1999 3 жыл бұрын
The Lawyer was attempting to admit to crimes to lessen the sentence and remove the possibility of a death penalty. The cutting of the deal would also be a make or break for such an arrogant lawyer and so would’ve pursued it as far and as much as possible
@SpiffySpecs
@SpiffySpecs 9 ай бұрын
The old guy, the blonde and the psychopath should all be careful. The young lawyer was once a Replicator in another show. If he gets pissed, he can destroy the planet.
@dwaugh2215
@dwaugh2215 Жыл бұрын
the guy got want he wanted to make a name, being sent to prison for denying any information of the victims of his client and now became hated by everyone.
@MaddDogg-ci2zx
@MaddDogg-ci2zx 9 күн бұрын
As someone once told me, "Be careful what you wish for, what you want may not be what you need." He wanted to make a name for himself but he didn't chose his battles wisely and got a real devil.
@strategic1710
@strategic1710 3 жыл бұрын
This case was a perfect example of McCoy’s arrogance and hypocrisy. Instead of sacrificing himself for his own ideals, he railroaded another lawyer and colleague who didn’t deserve it and faced a legitimate ethical dilemma. McCoy won cases, but Ben Stone was a better ada.
@bull705
@bull705 3 жыл бұрын
The defense lawyer was no hero, he was an idiot and a jerk. He only became a lawyer because he hated teaching algebra, then basically treats his client as a practice case and a stepping stone. I'm glad the moron got locked up.
@strategic1710
@strategic1710 3 жыл бұрын
@@bull705 I didn’t say the defense lawyer was a hero. But at least when he made a mistake he fell on his own sword and stood by his oath for it. My point was more about McCoy’s massive hypocrisy in sacrificing others to achieve his own goals.
@bull705
@bull705 3 жыл бұрын
@@strategic1710 Screw falling on the sword! Go to the ethics committee and solve this issue properly.
@TheJMPD
@TheJMPD 2 жыл бұрын
@@strategic1710 BS! The defense attorney had firsthand knowledge of ADDITIONAL crimes committed by his client, that the client was NOT charged with. As an Officer of the Court, he had a duty to recuse himself, and reveal the information that he had. All he did was make himself an accessory after the fact.
@stevezelaznik5872
@stevezelaznik5872 Жыл бұрын
The only time an attorney can break privilege is when the client reveals intent to commit future crimes.
@edwardstevens9473
@edwardstevens9473 3 жыл бұрын
They needed a second episode or a resolution mention.
@TheMan750
@TheMan750 3 жыл бұрын
He stuck to his oath he swore into and went to prison
@TheMartuksxxxx
@TheMartuksxxxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMan750 Prison for what? Technically he didnt break any laws
@denisenoe7746
@denisenoe7746 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMartuksxxxx The jury convicted him and he was pointlessly imprisoned.
@crazyunclecrispy6140
@crazyunclecrispy6140 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMartuksxxxx that doesnt matter. get enough jurors against you for one reason or another and your guilty even if you arent. for a real life example look at the george floyd case. floyd died of a drug overdose while in police custody yet because various.... people decided to cause millions of dollars in damages, and cause many deaths and injuries the officer who was just doing his job gets sent to prison.
@creatip123
@creatip123 2 жыл бұрын
it's actually cute seeing mccoy setup the table for their lunch. they looked good together. and she's gorgeous....
@silencia08
@silencia08 3 жыл бұрын
So what happend to the lawyer? did he do anything illegal or just distasteful?
@travisgoonan7667
@travisgoonan7667 3 жыл бұрын
He went to prison for being an accomplice and for not giving the location of the bodies.
@GodDiggetyDoodle
@GodDiggetyDoodle 3 жыл бұрын
@@travisgoonan7667 he's a lawyer how dumb can he be?
@travisgoonan7667
@travisgoonan7667 3 жыл бұрын
@@GodDiggetyDoodle let me give me a better idea. His client has already been found guilty, he’s getting the death penalty, Mr. McCoy offered the lawyer a get out of jail free card if he reveals the location of the bodies, and he’s practically given permission to break attorney/client privilege since it doesn’t allow the lawyer to cover up a crime. You tell me. That sounds pretty dumb to me to go to prison for that genocidal lunatic.
@yucol5661
@yucol5661 3 жыл бұрын
@@travisgoonan7667 genocidal!? How many people did they kill!!!???
@thegangsteroflove6802
@thegangsteroflove6802 3 жыл бұрын
@@yucol5661 dozens
@bursegsardaukar
@bursegsardaukar Жыл бұрын
Cut out the part where D.A. Arthur Branch called Schwimmer a "Stupid S.O.B.".
@WilliamTurneresq
@WilliamTurneresq Жыл бұрын
Defense counsel has a responsibility to advocate zealously for their clients. This is dumb.
@cecilharmon1832
@cecilharmon1832 3 жыл бұрын
Completely awesome show the best
@NathanTemple-Bird
@NathanTemple-Bird 10 ай бұрын
that man is insane!... that's why he makes me laugh!😂 LOL
@AtlChica883
@AtlChica883 Жыл бұрын
The irony is that because the girls were dead, if the lawyer actually saw the bodies he CANNOT tell anyone because the crime is over (the exception is when the crime is in process). But if the serial killer does privilege dies with him so only after the killer dies could the attorney write a book. He could also get the client to waive privilege (in this case the killer client tells McCoy his lawyers seem the body.) I would require the waiver in writing. So in real life, I tell my clients (I practice family law) if the body is in the trunk I’m bound to not reveal but if the victim is alive in the trunk I can call the police.
@nataliavelasquez1927
@nataliavelasquez1927 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me if the bodies were ever recovered or did these two go to jail without ever revealing the location? Cant find any info online, ty
@DSQueenie
@DSQueenie 3 жыл бұрын
At the end the lawyer refused to brake the attorney client privilege and reveal the location of the bodies and is convicted. McCoy thinks that after couple of days in prison the lawyer will give in, tell him where they are and they will commute his sentence but his boss Arthur Branch suggests that anyone with as strong principles as the lawyer won’t give in. The End. TL;DR The episode ends without the viewer finding out if the lawyer tells.
@aaronburgin1442
@aaronburgin1442 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Schwimmer took attorney client privilege to the grave.
@DankBlank
@DankBlank 3 жыл бұрын
A very nice show
@darthwicket
@darthwicket 3 жыл бұрын
Not once did he say, my lawyer has seen the bodies.
@_Boobz
@_Boobz 3 жыл бұрын
4:18 "because he saw them" wasn't word for word but still said the layer has seen them
@emperornortoni2871
@emperornortoni2871 3 жыл бұрын
Ahahahahaha "the whole system works." Well, that aged poorly.
@nanasakvarelidze9148
@nanasakvarelidze9148 Жыл бұрын
As a lawyer, I hated this episode. We are taught that A/C privilege is sacred even after the client's death. Such BS episode.
@keviiinramaaaage7650
@keviiinramaaaage7650 3 жыл бұрын
MY. DOGS. ARE. HUNGRY!!!
@britney901
@britney901 3 жыл бұрын
Who's the actor playing the defence lawyer?
@Technoman44
@Technoman44 3 жыл бұрын
Alexander Chaplin. He was on the tv sitcom Spin City with Micheal J Fox from 1996-2000
@mia4224
@mia4224 3 жыл бұрын
they should do a part 2 of this episode where the lawyer reveals location of the bodies
@wallis104
@wallis104 3 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what brought me here…. Checking to see if they ever did a follow-up…. Wow….
@Nepomniachtchi_Austin
@Nepomniachtchi_Austin 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely not, for reasons stated during the trial, it would set a horrible standard for case law and be cited in future cases as grounds to "justify" breaking attorney-client privilege. A show as realistic (for tv, anyways) as this would never do such a thing.
@420mralucard
@420mralucard 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nepomniachtchi_Austin Except this isn't attorney-client privilege, this is obstruction. Being a lawyer doesn't excuse you from following the law, and there is obviously laws saying you can't withhold information about a murder.
@jjr1728
@jjr1728 2 жыл бұрын
@@420mralucard Objection. Counsel is grandstanding, your honor.... SUSTAINED.
@royalewithcheese7
@royalewithcheese7 Жыл бұрын
The lawyer should have just made an anonymous call to the police about where the bodies were
@EvetsZerimar23
@EvetsZerimar23 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t it be cool if the actor playing the criminal genuinely hated this show. It’s just organic, the way he taunts
@janicebenson7557
@janicebenson7557 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@CommonCent
@CommonCent 3 жыл бұрын
The phrase royally fucked doesn't even begin to describe the trouble that lawyer is in
@whisperedaria8832
@whisperedaria8832 3 жыл бұрын
Question: isn’t the defense lawyer supposed to step down if they know of evidence/have proof that their client is guilty? I know of a couple other L&O episodes where the defendant admitted something in front of their lawyer and the lawyer said they weren’t allowed to defend them now. Why didn’t this lawyer just do the same thing? Or was there a particular circumstance in those other episodes?
@kesselster
@kesselster 3 жыл бұрын
No, not at all. I don't know where that lie started, but it's entirely untrue. Likely because what is portrayed in this show is nearly entirely fabricated.
@andmos1001
@andmos1001 3 жыл бұрын
In Norway we had a terrorist, which went to kill 83 people, the defense lawyer for him said that everyone deserves a capable defense attorney, and if not him, whom?
@patrickstivers7387
@patrickstivers7387 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't so much that they weren't allowed to defend their client but more that their client put them in a position where they were likely to be accused of an ethical violation if they continued to represent them. For example, if a client admits that they committed the crime but says that they will say the exact opposite on the stand, their attorney has every right to bail.
@nsahandler
@nsahandler 2 жыл бұрын
Lawyers in the United States cannot use their authority or expertise to conceal evidence or otherwise interfere in an ongoing investigation on anything other than via court order. Ie. You can't advise people to destroy evidence. You can't conceal the whereabouts of a fugitive of the law. Had the lawyer been an irl lawyer, he would have put the photos in a safe in his office and never directly visited the locations himself. Once a lawyer inserts themselves into the facts of the case - as was done later in this episode - they cannot ethically represent the defense because the lawyer themselves had become a material witness in the case. Now, what ALSO needs to be considered is that a lawyer representing a client may not want to help them at all and must identify themselves as too compromised to objectively provide my legal services to them.
@BigSlimyBlob
@BigSlimyBlob 2 жыл бұрын
It's insane, but defense lawyers are legally obligated to pretend that their client is innocent even if they have undeniable proof that their client is guilty. Prosecutors can and will also lie profusely by pretending that they know the accused is guilty even when they have no idea if the accused did it or not. Defense lawyers and prosecutors are clowns, made to perform in the theatre of law. The law cares about appearances, it doesn't care much for the truth. One thing defense lawyers can't do, however, is allow their client or witnesses to lie on the stand.
@Escul1960
@Escul1960 3 жыл бұрын
This actor is outstanding! Who is he??
@Technoman44
@Technoman44 3 жыл бұрын
Richard Coster
@callie8630
@callie8630 2 жыл бұрын
Wait so what happened this episode?
@ronnij1635
@ronnij1635 3 жыл бұрын
SECOND TO A LAW AND ORDER EPISODE LOL
@dave929
@dave929 Жыл бұрын
Granted, this is an old episode, but just think if Heath Ledger played the part and acted like he did as “The Joker”. Classic!
@aliamjon2550
@aliamjon2550 2 жыл бұрын
The serial killer makes a funny face at 3:51 hilarious, mocking mccoy
@cgreen399
@cgreen399 3 жыл бұрын
I like this actor more when he was in Spin City! He was less swarmy🤔
@marknan5352
@marknan5352 2 жыл бұрын
After that speech in the office jack has the defense lawyer arrested and charged for not violating the lawyers code. Sometimes jack is a big hypocrite. And still , I love the show. 😏🤔
@cameronmonaghan6883
@cameronmonaghan6883 2 жыл бұрын
I sort of like Jack bending the law to get justice for those who have been let down by it. Yes it's hypocritical but it's also right
@amandabeaty1492
@amandabeaty1492 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched this episode.
@wandachristian1884
@wandachristian1884 3 жыл бұрын
Can you telle what happened? I can't find this episode. 🙂
@amandabeaty1492
@amandabeaty1492 3 жыл бұрын
@@wandachristian1884 Do you have Prime video? It's available in Canada, it may be available elsewhere. But I'll tell you what happens if you'd like.
@tmseh
@tmseh 3 жыл бұрын
She is soooooooo gorgeous.
@thepageofawesome
@thepageofawesome 2 жыл бұрын
Bro was ready to let BODIES sit there just so he could maybe get rich someday
@r.n.holmes5625
@r.n.holmes5625 3 жыл бұрын
Anybody who's seen the full episode? What the hell is this guys deal?
@jameretief8327
@jameretief8327 3 жыл бұрын
It was a public health code violation not reporting a dead body for proper disposal. The idiot is an officer of the law therefore he must report an ongoing violation of the law.
@KhaosN7
@KhaosN7 2 жыл бұрын
That's not how things shook out in the real-world case that this episode was based on. The prosecution argued that exact point and the attorneys in that case were cleared of any legal and ethical wrongdoing. Look up "The Buried Bodies Case" for more information.
@pamelaharrington3838
@pamelaharrington3838 3 жыл бұрын
HEY!!! I'M FROM BOSTON MASS!!! MASSHOLE IN THE KZbin HOUSE
@tmseh
@tmseh 3 жыл бұрын
Better than being a Maineiac!
@eldridgedavis
@eldridgedavis 3 жыл бұрын
I hate lawyers..Shakespeare was right.
@Deborahtunes
@Deborahtunes 3 жыл бұрын
Granted, lawyers have screwed up a lot of things in this country. Not to mention many attorneys are crooked as hell. Personally, I don't trust most of them. Unfortunately though, these "legal manipulators" are a necessary "evil"...
@sanjuktachatterjee6807
@sanjuktachatterjee6807 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deborahtunes Both my grandfathers hated lawyers, especially defence lawyers. One of them was a head master of a boy's high school ( that meant principal in neo independent India, about 70 years back), the other a magistrate. Both didn't allow anyone from their children to become a lawyer. Because it was their belief that lawyers would defend their own daughters' rapists and their parents' murderers for the right price. They didn't want any of their children to be a part of such sick bunch. Can't say they were wrong. 😬
@rabbitsfoot8
@rabbitsfoot8 3 жыл бұрын
i put lawyers right up there with car salesmen and mechanics on the trust scale...I once saw a lawyer bill a client 7k off of 1 phone call..and yes they are a necessary evil...like files who eat our waste
@Deborahtunes
@Deborahtunes 3 жыл бұрын
@@sanjuktachatterjee6807 ~ I can't blame your family either...
@benx6264
@benx6264 3 жыл бұрын
everybody hates lawyers, until they need one
@b1akn3ss93
@b1akn3ss93 3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is going by how this Show does things . if he did tell them it would have been thrown out due to a “technically “ in court or some BS
@jjr1728
@jjr1728 2 жыл бұрын
*C O N F I R M A T I O N*
@holdenpi
@holdenpi 6 ай бұрын
In real life Robert Garrow was shot dead after an escape attempt so no harm, no foul.
@geoffoldread7684
@geoffoldread7684 2 жыл бұрын
What delivery person wears an apron ever?
@carmelaszymanski8232
@carmelaszymanski8232 2 ай бұрын
SICKO..
@carmelaszymanski8232
@carmelaszymanski8232 2 ай бұрын
The Look on that's childish face.. Scared me
@jjs1300000
@jjs1300000 Жыл бұрын
Mark Bruner was messed up and creepy.
@pikkagtr1942
@pikkagtr1942 3 жыл бұрын
trying to hard to be Keyser Söze
@arthurbb8937
@arthurbb8937 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously I know nothing about the law but if suspect tells lawyer he killed someone and where body is does he have to reveal that to DA? Or does he still try to get him off? It should be clear. Lawyer commit crime or he didn't Not for jury to decide. Should be decided by Supreme Court.
@KhaosN7
@KhaosN7 2 жыл бұрын
The Laywer did not commit a crime. The information disclosed to him was protected by Attorney/Client Privelage. This is actually based on a famous Legal case known as "The Buried Bodies Case." Two lawyers were defending a murderer and he confessed to them that he had also committed two unrelated murders and told them where the bodies were hidden. After finding the bodies, the two lawyers did not disclose this information to the authorities. Belge (the main attorney int h case) was indicted over violating two Public Health laws by failing to disclose the locations of the dead bodies. The laywers argued that the information was protected by Attorney/Client Privilege, and they were both cleared fo any legal and ethical wrongdoing. That sais, many legal scholars disagree with the outcome of the case, and even though the Appeals court shot down an appeal by the prosecution, they did so while expressing concerns over "limitless Attorney/Client Privilege," and noted that while Lawyers must protect their clients, they should also observe "basic human standards of decency." Furthermore, it's also been argued that Laywers should not be exempt from laws, and that both attorneys violated the law by not reporting decomposing bodies for proper disposal.
@harvestcanada
@harvestcanada Жыл бұрын
They didn't just do a Joker episode?
@thedelta4258
@thedelta4258 3 жыл бұрын
Why does the other lawyer look like Samwise Gamgee?
@KitsunenoHibi
@KitsunenoHibi 3 жыл бұрын
Welp, that lawyer's career is OVER.
@inferics3602
@inferics3602 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t attorney client priviledge protect him?
@aaronburgin1442
@aaronburgin1442 3 жыл бұрын
@@inferics3602 Yes, but they still charged him with accessory and the jury convicted him. Great episode.
@TheMartuksxxxx
@TheMartuksxxxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@inferics3602 It would. But keep in mind that in USA you dont need to do anything against the law for jury to convict you. Technically speaking defence lawyer didnt commit any crimes. But jury disliked him, so made guilty verdict
@matthewforsyth284
@matthewforsyth284 Жыл бұрын
Nope he learned it from seeing the bodies you do know that right!?
@dotmadhack
@dotmadhack 2 жыл бұрын
What is this writing lol
@karenstephens2984
@karenstephens2984 2 жыл бұрын
The over acting of the murderer is soo stupid
@JayPlvg
@JayPlvg 3 жыл бұрын
EARLY EARLY
@averysmith2605
@averysmith2605 2 жыл бұрын
The scene makes wanna be there and beat mark bruner until he tells me where the bodies are.
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