My LAZY BREAD. The most EASIEST [OPEN CRUMB] sourdough bread. | by JoyRideCoffee

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Bread by Joy Ride Coffee

Күн бұрын

Lazy Bread - from my point of view is the most easiest open crumb bread.
At the base of this bread I put the ideas below:
- As a home baker, the time you spend on bread is always limited. No matter how passionate you are, you can't sacrifice your family and time for the sake of dough.
- A long leavened bread at room temperature is sweeter than a long leavened bread in the refrigerator which tends to give sour shades.
- The fermentation rate of a low hydration dough is much lower compared to that of a high hydration dough.
- The crust of a bread with low hydration is crispier and contrasts nicely with a lacy crumb.
What resulted?
I combined all these ideas in a simple method that, with small adjustments depending on the flour available, anyone can use it successfully at home. The bread does not require many skills because there is no pre-shaping, shaping, scoring, etc. The dough in the last phase is touched very little.
So "Lazy Bread" it's a bread that requires your presence only 2-3 hours in the evening, it ferments itself at room temperature overnight. You can put it in the fridge in the morning and bake it the next day when you have time.
It's a bread with medium hydration, 73% and 25% wholemeal flour. A strong flour (high protein content) will help. If you don't have strong flour you can lower the hydration.
It perfectly combines the special taste of long leavening at room temperature, the crust specific to low-hydration loaves and the lacy crumb texture of the high-hydration breads. A bread that you can simply have it on the family table, especially on weekends. It is made without effort and always comes out special. I called it "lazy bread" because you can do it at home very easily, even when you are a very busy person.
And what is more important is the fact that, if you have a healthy starter and you do some good development of gluten at the beginning, the bread comes out "open" every time. I call it "Lazy" because it ferments slowly due to low hydration and especially because even lazy people like me can do it.
Formula:
80g whole wheat "le 5 stagioni"
245g manitoba white flour Molino Verrini type "0"
230g water
7.5g salt
65g sourdoug starter (100% hydration)
Method:
19:00 mixing flours & water then rest (autolyse)
20:00 knead with starter for 4-6 mins. then rest
20:30 knead with salt for 4-6 mins. then rest
21:00 strong fold on table then rest
21:30 lamination then rest
/* 22:30 coil fold then rest on room temperature ~ 22 degrees Celsius /* - optional
Next morning:
7:00 moved into the fridge to cool down
7:30 shaping like ciabatta then rest
9:30 bake 10 mins. at 250 degrees Celsius on baking steel with steam and 25 mins. at 220 degrees Celsius without steam
If you're like me animated by the same passion, subscribe & comments are most welcome.
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Inspired by:
- Trevor Jay Wilson: / trevorjaywilson
- Kristen (fullproofbaking): / fullproofbaking

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@diogojvc
@diogojvc 3 жыл бұрын
we clearly have different concepts of lazy... good video though
@joerobert7847
@joerobert7847 3 жыл бұрын
LOL. I am with you there
@JB-yg3ew
@JB-yg3ew 3 жыл бұрын
I'm five minutes in and it's already more than work than I was expecting for an "easy" bread.
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
for this type of crumb, believe me it's very easy. let's rise the standards. of course no knead bread is more easy (kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJi2fpuqh9ySprc) but for a lacy crumb this is the most simple variant.
@jeffwells641
@jeffwells641 3 жыл бұрын
Lol same. I was hoping it was a magical no-knead variant. Oh well. Still impressive. The only difficult part, IMO, is the lamination step. It looks easy enough, but I tried doing it with the 83% dough (from the "No More Sticky Dough" video), and I could definitely see that someone better than I am could get the job done with my dough, but I really couldn't. I technically got it folded into layers though, and my dough feels super, super strong compared to what I'm used to making, so I'm happy. I'll get it eventually. I just can't wait to bake that bread, I can tell it's going to be the best bread I've ever made, since it's doing all the things I could never get my dough to do before.
@beverleyklein7264
@beverleyklein7264 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe if we lived in a forest we'd feel differently, but I'm with you. Calming to watch though.
@nahaidiew2991
@nahaidiew2991 2 жыл бұрын
Lazy and easy ? This is genuine love of baking!!!
@xin-xinmah8517
@xin-xinmah8517 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like you truly know the flour and the yeast and the process very well. Really envy. Thank you for showing your passion in making excellent bread.
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@donnathorne4430
@donnathorne4430 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this video…beautifully done….thank you 🙏 for sharing …can’t wait to give it a try!
@nieldapf
@nieldapf 3 жыл бұрын
Muy buenos videos! El pan también tiene buena pinta 😋.... Beautiful soundtrack!
@rcurielh
@rcurielh 3 жыл бұрын
Perfection !!!
@sharonn9991
@sharonn9991 3 жыл бұрын
Yay the recipe!! Can’t wait to try it out. Thank you!
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, show us the results :)
@Capitainealain
@Capitainealain 3 жыл бұрын
Magnifique !!
@Mwelkiorum
@Mwelkiorum 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating.
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TofiYee
@TofiYee 3 жыл бұрын
Watching your video makes me so zen. Every move is so careful and intricate. Nothing lazy about it at all! Thanks for sharing.
@rweakley
@rweakley 3 жыл бұрын
Every time he does a lamination, I want him throw pizza sauce and cheese on it and throw it in the oven!
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
:))))
@hulqen
@hulqen 3 жыл бұрын
every time he does a lamination, I look at my own mess of a dough and cry... :P
@jpeood32
@jpeood32 3 жыл бұрын
good idea, think this would be easier than try to toss one!
@jennifernguyen1184
@jennifernguyen1184 3 жыл бұрын
@@hulqen Haha! I made a big mess last night too.
@alim3611
@alim3611 3 жыл бұрын
ha ha ha same here lol
@nikinikolakaki9346
@nikinikolakaki9346 3 жыл бұрын
Yessssss!! Finally a "lazy" bread!! If you had left the dough less hours in room temp then shaping could have been possible but I admire you being so versatile and read what the dough needs. In the past when people had to make their own bread for the family (and families were really big) used less hydration and let the dough ferment in ambient temp. So this is a lesson from the past. In Greece, as flours are weak in general, longer fermentation in ambient temp and lower hydration helps make a bread with open crumb and crispy as you nicely point out. Well done!! (music+scenery fascinating as usual)
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Ki Niki. I'm thinking now about the ambient temperature in Greece ... The starter were probably stiff. And a bit of salt too. In Romania the same. Thank you!
@nikinikolakaki9346
@nikinikolakaki9346 3 жыл бұрын
@@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee well, in the past (eg my grandmother used to keep a stiff starter but before 2nd WW and after there were no domestic refrigerators!! Actually, it was not a true starter but she kept a piece of the dough after she had added the salt--just before shaping the bread. She kept it in a clay pot at the coolest part of the kitchen covered in olive oil...and in Crete olive oil is abundant as every local have their own olive trees!I guess due to the mild climate in comparison to the northern countries that was possible and it has been the practice of the people making bread until quite recently) that was the case. In Italy though they are used to keep a stiff starter even nowadays...when you make panettonne you need a stiff starter, I guess it is supposed to be more powerful for demanding doughs. Nowadays things are different and refrigerators are our allies...Thank God!! :)))
@pkontopoulos
@pkontopoulos 3 жыл бұрын
Mdm Niki, indeed the Greek flours are very weak and high hydration creates floppy results and takes a lot of work to create a good gluten structure. Looking around in stone mills the quality of the resultant flour is even poorer. Also barley is quite common that creates very dense bread and glorious rusks. So we have to settle for weak flours with good taste and make the best of them.
@nikinikolakaki9346
@nikinikolakaki9346 3 жыл бұрын
@@pkontopoulos I agree with what you point out about the flours. On the other hand I'm not one of those who likes compromises...ha ha ha !! Hopefully, we can find good quality flours in Greece that are not of Greek origin as many people do.
@NickSzabadkai
@NickSzabadkai Жыл бұрын
Thanks! You Videos are always an inspiration.
@julianahamouz212
@julianahamouz212 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not lazy by my standards lol Thank you for this beautiful video. I will try this approach because I feel like my attempts at shaping always deflate the dough and I end up with a not so open crumb, regardless of the hydration. Your bread is absolutely beautiful.
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Juliana, indeed is not so lazy, but for open lacy crumb it's the most confortable :)
@atlenta1
@atlenta1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your technique. Good things come to those who wait.
@remingtontheblack4953
@remingtontheblack4953 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. True art.
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@figenergungor8122
@figenergungor8122 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect 👍
@ursulakienow4756
@ursulakienow4756 3 жыл бұрын
einfach super !!!
@davidburke75116
@davidburke75116 3 жыл бұрын
I want the bread but I don’t think I would ever pull this off, looks divine!
@Rotadiva
@Rotadiva 3 жыл бұрын
I really love watching your videos, so mesmerizing. Merci!
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Randy! Glad to have you here!
@saharsrestaurantstyle7514
@saharsrestaurantstyle7514 3 жыл бұрын
look very nice i will try it
@pni5ewz
@pni5ewz 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thank you.
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ronen!
@LucaGRizzi
@LucaGRizzi 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@NickSzabadkai
@NickSzabadkai 3 жыл бұрын
Wouw! Looks great!👏
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nick!
@randakamal7149
@randakamal7149 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing thank u
@winewoman224
@winewoman224 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent work . Congratulations on a beautiful video and product.
@isaacdewispelaere3309
@isaacdewispelaere3309 2 жыл бұрын
Once again thank-you for your videos I've made the most excellent bread with your process. This is next on the list
@NectereYT
@NectereYT 3 жыл бұрын
I always learn so much from your videos, thank you
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad for that!
@shadybad9836
@shadybad9836 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply mate👍🇬🇧
@JimCDC11
@JimCDC11 3 жыл бұрын
Yet another excellent video and recipe. I want to try this one. Thank you!
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jim!
@denisekong6904
@denisekong6904 3 жыл бұрын
If I don’t have baking stone or lava stone, can I bake in DO like how the sourdough bread are to get the same result ?
@markgory6847
@markgory6847 2 ай бұрын
LAZY ? different concepts, but a work of art. great for a lazy Saturday afternoon's pottering
@garrettpeters3438
@garrettpeters3438 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed instructions in the bar. You make it look so easy. I will have to try this. 🍞👍🏼
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
It's really easy.
@RobertaPeck
@RobertaPeck 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful meditative video- the perfection of technique, the pauses in nature, the perfect repetitive quality of the music---The viewer experiences two masterpieces: the creation of the final bread filigree and how you have captured the process. Beautiful!
@fmara5223
@fmara5223 3 жыл бұрын
Genius!
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@alvinchan9645
@alvinchan9645 3 жыл бұрын
Very impressive and thank you for taking the time to make this video. Surprised the dough holds up so well, we learn about over-proofing so much that this just feels counter-intuitive. Will definitely try this recipe next time. Thanks again.
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
It's medium hydration and indeed holds up so well. Thank you! You will like to do it. :)
@bquint6843
@bquint6843 3 жыл бұрын
After watching your videos I don't know what desire is stronger make bread or go hiking. Thanks for all the vids they are very informative and helpful. oh BTW the bread in this vid is a thing of beauty
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
you can do both. but don't give up at hiking for a bread :) Thank you!
@stiglarssen908
@stiglarssen908 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent walkthrough. Just finished two breads following this video step-by-step. Very tasty and I got very close to the same structure and crumb. The only thing I had to improvise on was when I removed the dough from the proofing vessel the morning after. My dough was sticking a litte to the bottom, so it tore the dough a little. Solved this by carefully folding the dough over itself, one fold. Proceeded with the steps from the video after that.
@erikabalazs
@erikabalazs 3 жыл бұрын
I baked it, it became super, perfect recipe. Thank you!
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Erika!
@nikosmix
@nikosmix 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite amateur baker,I am so into your ideas and philosophy of bread baking and handling.Thanks for sharing your knowledge....!
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nick!
@terrygorry
@terrygorry 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent work, great video
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Terry!
@nicecakeandfood-4860
@nicecakeandfood-4860 3 жыл бұрын
it looks nice and fantastic💝👏💯👍🔔🔔🔔
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@lauraz3124
@lauraz3124 3 жыл бұрын
I love your elegant style.
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Laura!
@andyelliott292
@andyelliott292 3 жыл бұрын
Superb
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Andy!
@Khaledikaa
@Khaledikaa 3 жыл бұрын
Well done! I like your way to make bread
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@green7apocalyptica
@green7apocalyptica 3 жыл бұрын
🥖🍞♥️🔥 that's just Magic 😍
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@green7apocalyptica
@green7apocalyptica 3 жыл бұрын
Your a Wizard @@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 🧙‍♂️ Really, if I would have left the dough for 2 more hours it would been a floppy mess😅 but with you it's just amazing 🥳 the bread has huge oven spring and it's so fluffy 🤩🤤👏🔥
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
@@green7apocalyptica try to keep your starter with less acidity and will stay fine for many hours
@green7apocalyptica
@green7apocalyptica 3 жыл бұрын
@@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee oh! Thank you! I will try it this way🥳🥳🥳
@tanyametaksa8217
@tanyametaksa8217 3 жыл бұрын
@@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee how do you determine the acidity of the starter. I have enjoyed all your videos. Learned a lot from them and from your videos as well at Trevor Wilson and Kristen (full proof baking) that you suggest. Many thanks for your inspiration.
@stevefeller4843
@stevefeller4843 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE THE MUSIC!
@cocobeloeil9258
@cocobeloeil9258 3 жыл бұрын
Magnifique pain !
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@chunkapur5057
@chunkapur5057 3 жыл бұрын
Its almost transparent 😲! Always learn something new from every video you make, thank you 😊
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, amazing that translucent texture for me too. Thank you!
@Fernando-ox5mo
@Fernando-ox5mo 3 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here. Thank you! Beautiful music and views from the forest as well. Much appreciated during this time of shutting down in a small apartment.
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fernando!
@mightymcduff2056
@mightymcduff2056 3 жыл бұрын
What is the music?
@pang890528
@pang890528 3 жыл бұрын
amazing content as usual, love your approach in baking sourdough =)
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@betamoose
@betamoose 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely, lovely bread, I just have to agree with the others that it doesn't seem 'lazy' to me. But worth a try, for sure, though. :)
@arbitScaleModels
@arbitScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. I also put in the fridge before shaping to reduce work on first day. Can you please make us an open crumb recipe with dry yeast? Applying your skills to yeasted dough would be truly unique!
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
will be a challenge for me. never tried :))) but will be!
@medicaldawg9734
@medicaldawg9734 3 жыл бұрын
@@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee I would also love to see what you would do with dry yeast! Do you think the less "wild" nature of dry yeast would make it harder to achieve large bubbles in the crumb, or is it still possible? I moved and don't have my sourdough starter anymore and am dreading making a new one so I've been baking bread with dry yeast recently :(
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
@@medicaldawg9734 I think also works with dry yeast. Maybe more easy and more open. Just we must adapt the method. I will think at this!
@abdullahul-haq6944
@abdullahul-haq6944 3 жыл бұрын
@@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee I’m like you, I cringe every time I think of using dry yeast instead of my starter
@petevogt
@petevogt 3 жыл бұрын
Would this possibly work with a poolish?
@clkbunny6766
@clkbunny6766 3 жыл бұрын
I think your videos are great!
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@tomasgulas
@tomasgulas 3 жыл бұрын
I'm makingtime today again, for the 2nd time, just put it in fridge after night of rising. Came out really good the first time.
@davidsherburne8429
@davidsherburne8429 3 жыл бұрын
You the man
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@lihan1234
@lihan1234 3 жыл бұрын
This has the feel of a silent film from the early 1940s with the structure of an industrial film from the 50s. Great video !
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@raqueltriano7390
@raqueltriano7390 3 жыл бұрын
Maravilha! 🎹👏🙏
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sharanbirbrijnath549
@sharanbirbrijnath549 3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous video.....your analysis of time constraints and daily pressures is spot on....my first attempt at this was very enjoyable.....well done !
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. For me, it is the bread that fits best in my program. While you are in the family in the evening, you do some operations and the next day you cook it when you have time.
@sharanbirbrijnath549
@sharanbirbrijnath549 3 жыл бұрын
Two queries....at the lamination stage do you sprinkle water on the surface ? And, what are the rough dimensions of the square you laminate ....thanks
@marianfrances4959
@marianfrances4959 3 жыл бұрын
New sub! Going to try this! 😉🇨🇦
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
you will like it! :)
@markcharette9022
@markcharette9022 3 жыл бұрын
Hello there, I am always tuned into your great channel. I have just woken up to an amazing looking dough in the Pyrex. Unfortunately I cannot bake it and was wondering how long until I bake after removing from the fridge?
@KeyHBCR
@KeyHBCR 3 жыл бұрын
Me again! I followed this one and worked great! I did not get an open crumb, but because I had to alter the instructions a bit, 2h less of fermentation at room temp because from a comment I read, that would've let me shape the bread. But in general I think it resulted great. Thanks!!
@KeyHBCR
@KeyHBCR 3 жыл бұрын
Too sad I can't post a photo
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
@@KeyHBCR do you have a link? on social media?
@KeyHBCR
@KeyHBCR 3 жыл бұрын
@@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee I sent you a DM on IG with the photos
@brigitteabraham510
@brigitteabraham510 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all the recilies of sourdough bread i make few of them and i m enjoying it very much I have a question is it possible to make halah bread from sourdough starter?
@rami8361
@rami8361 3 жыл бұрын
Very Very NICE. . . ! ! ! ! ! Never tasted such bread... Love to try and make it 👍😋😛😊 Thank You very much... Nice Beautiful forest... Scarry too... No bears around ?!? 😲😮😧
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you,. Few year ago was one. And a tiger escaped from Zoo :)))
@raimundoneto1689
@raimundoneto1689 3 жыл бұрын
Easy yet beautiful! Congrats. It's interesting, even with that much gas it kinda holds its shape two hours from the cut.
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Because of medium hydration.
@raimundoneto1689
@raimundoneto1689 3 жыл бұрын
@@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee got it. My brain automatically set your bread as high hydration haha as for the flours that I use, at my skill level, 65% hydration is the maximum
@filon4you1510
@filon4you1510 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video about bread, very clearly presented, I'm a baker too and I really liked this video
@isobelm7416
@isobelm7416 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. I love your channel! I am becoming passionate about making bread! I have 2 questions : The steam you used is just lava rocks on a metal plate, then you made them wet? Also: I see you kneading super slow and them you go and stretch it with no kneading (or maybe I cant see cause you're super fast) you have any advice on kneading well?
@hayhouse3
@hayhouse3 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Videos. I am an amateur baker for year, but never had the open crumb like in your bread. I am going to start with your lazy bread recipe and see how it goes. I am worried a bit that my starter once incorporated, will complete fermentation before the night is over. It’s been pretty active lately, so I may try to do it all in one day. Any thoughts?
@commanderuseless1685
@commanderuseless1685 3 жыл бұрын
No offense, your bread looks absolutely amazing and the techniques involved were great - but how is this lazy and easy?! Haha!
@randakamal7149
@randakamal7149 3 жыл бұрын
Easy🙈
@ivanaguedes7539
@ivanaguedes7539 3 жыл бұрын
For sourdough bread type, the process in the video is considered very easy!
@jeffwells641
@jeffwells641 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivanaguedes7539 It's not the sourdough that makes it difficult, it's the Pan De Cristal - the giant air pockets and lacy crumb. Sourdough is just a different type of leavener - once the dough has reached the first rise there isn't much difference between the two except for flavor. The sourdough may be slower if you used a starter past its peak to get those sour notes, but that's about all. The technique is the same - it would be just as hard to do with yeast, though the order of things would probably be slightly different. A typical Pan De Cristal is much higher hydration and takes about 4-5 more hours of work before you get to that lamination stage. Getting such a similar effect with 75% hydration and a lot fewer stages of kneading and folding is very impressive.
@ivanaguedes7539
@ivanaguedes7539 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffwells641, thank you for our reply! I am usually amazed by the crumb´s outcomes of this guy! I am still learning and training to make sourdogh, however I never get such result ; ( Perhaps, is a characterisctics of the flours we have here in my country
@deboraesteves3332
@deboraesteves3332 3 жыл бұрын
I live in the tropic and the room temperature is around 25 ºCelsus during the night. Would you recommend leave it out to rise or better put it in the refrigerator?
@SebasVLopez-lx2ix
@SebasVLopez-lx2ix 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I really like your channel and your videos are so useful for me, I followed all the steps from the video but I don't know why but, my crumb is so wet, this is a problem because my dough is over proof or underproof?
@songfullee
@songfullee Ай бұрын
What are some options to substitute these European flours you use? It's very difficult to get whole wheat "le 5 stagioni" and manitoba white flour Molino Verrini type "0" in the US
@matthewhav
@matthewhav 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic !!!! So our evening temperatures are quite high at the moment, 27- 28 deg. I am thus worried about over fermentation over night. What are your thoughts about a longer bulk fermentation in the fridge at 5 deg instead of the 8 hours at room temp ? I could then still do the 2 hours at room temp in the morning before baking ?
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
You must make some test for long bulk proofing in the fridge, at 6-8 degrees C. And indeed 2 hours final proof can be too much. Try 30-60mins and see how look, then adjust next time.
@juanlamanna2574
@juanlamanna2574 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic bread. Delicious, crusty. Thanks so much. Question: can I proof it in a banetton and then bake it as a single loaf instead of 2 smaller loaves?
@Danielseven-ir2mq
@Danielseven-ir2mq 3 жыл бұрын
I would guess yes. Some bread lovers belief a bigger loaf taste better than a smaller one. Especially with certain recepies. That's my 2 cents.
@jonztube
@jonztube 3 жыл бұрын
Love it - but I don't have the patience to make it. Thanks for showing how to use hot rocks to make steam. Really useful!
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Maybe you should at least give it a try. :)
@JoeKaye959
@JoeKaye959 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are a pleasure to watch.
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joseph!
@jallison945
@jallison945 2 жыл бұрын
can any of these first kneading steps be done with a kitchenaid mixer? I'm fine with strong folds and lamination, but the first steps are very messy for me in my high humidity area (UK). Thanks!
@pkontopoulos
@pkontopoulos 3 жыл бұрын
Ι follow your youtube channel sometime now as I am a amateur baker and explorer of the bread processes. I always surprised for the sort period of autolysis you do, and how dense and easy to handle is your dough with medium to high hydration like the 73% of today. I wonder what is the protein level of your flour. Well done and keep up the good work.👍👍👍
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
This one is strong one, I guess over 14%. But it's not always what the numbers look like. The flour is not very friendly, when I bought it I didn't like it at all. Other 12% protein flours are much better. But slowly I started to feel it and I made beautiful breads with it. But I won't buy it anymore :) If I look at you on my channel, there are clips with successful breads and weaker flours (all purpose, ground semolina, countryside flour, etc.)
@pierpaolo9015
@pierpaolo9015 3 жыл бұрын
hello, congratulations for the wonders we have! but these doughs if made with the mixer can I get similar results?
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
sure, will work too!
@mcwolf33
@mcwolf33 3 жыл бұрын
Do you control water temperature ? what is the flour W ?. thank you.
@BTs-he1lg
@BTs-he1lg 3 жыл бұрын
Love the background music! Perfect schedule to have fresh bread for lunch. Got fair amount open crumbs, but dough spread out more than rising up. When turning dough out from pan, bottom kind of stringy. I made your starter a few months ago, last month decided to leave in fridge and feed when its needed, used after only one feeding at its peak, might be not enough strength? No extra shelf for the upside down pan, ended up covered the bread with a deep pan on top like dutch oven with hot water at bottom shelf. Thank you
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Hi thank you! You must try if works only after one feeding. I guess will work but best results you will have when is more vigorous, non acidic, strong (usually you keep it at room temperature - make an effort and keep it one week at RT and see the results).
@beckytsukishima6088
@beckytsukishima6088 3 жыл бұрын
@@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee Thanks, will keep at room temp from now on
@BTs-he1lg
@BTs-he1lg 3 жыл бұрын
@@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee First feeding back to RT 19-20C, 1:3:3, nothing much happened after 12 hours, rise 0.5 after 18 hours, peaked at 24 hours to a little more than double and bubbly. 2nd feeding at 26 hours. How do I get it back to twice a day or its ok once a day? Thanks Becky
@ryanarmitage7196
@ryanarmitage7196 3 жыл бұрын
When is it good to have those large air holes near the top of the loaf? In another video he said he was looking for a lacy texture, which seems to have a more regular structure. When is this structure appropriate?
@chenrowenais
@chenrowenais Жыл бұрын
Hi.. if i use a stiff starter of 50% hydration do i have to add more water to the dough itself? Thank you!
@sirtooby
@sirtooby 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive, I follow almost the same schedule for my bread but I clearly off with the regards to your folding technic. Have only tried once with the autolys, must try that again. I am also way down on time for the last rest. Will try your recepie, thanx.
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tobias. Keep working, you will understand more with each bake even if the results don't satisfy you sometimes.
@sirtooby
@sirtooby 3 жыл бұрын
Done my first try of your bread. Think I got it a little bit wetter, so the last fold was all but easy 😁. It came out nice but not as big holes that in yours. Family liked it much, thanx
@domenicosaracino8290
@domenicosaracino8290 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this beautiful video. I tried to follow your instruction but when I flipped the dough from the pirex it didn't come down. And from what I see we use the same stuff! Should I add oil? How do you do it without oil or flour?
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
I guess you starter was too acidic and your dough was over proofed in bulk. Work in early gluten development and will be no problem when flipping the dough.
@domenicosaracino8290
@domenicosaracino8290 3 жыл бұрын
Nice advice! Thank you very much :)
@thenekochan5621
@thenekochan5621 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I was wondering if you could double the ingredients to make two loaves
@zanea6820
@zanea6820 3 жыл бұрын
can you make a video about how to prepare a starter that has been dormant in the fridge for a long time? and how to make the starter less acidic
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
I never keep the starter in the fridge. Make an effort for a week or two and you will see the difference. I've been thinking about a significant video about the starter for a long time, I will definitely do it. Thank you!
@trackie1957
@trackie1957 3 жыл бұрын
I use my starter about every three weeks and never feed it in between. When I plan to make bread, I take the starter from the fridge the day before. Pour off dark liquid and stir. Transfer a small amount to a clean container and feed it to 2-3 times it’s weight (If you start with 40gr starter, add 40gr each flour and water). I add the water first, shake it up to mix and oxygenate, then add the flour, shake again and stir to complete blending. Often, this rich feeding will produce a vigorous rise, but if not, one more feed usually does it. If you have stored in the fridge for over a month, it could take a few more, so keep trying and be patient.
@gioiosa54
@gioiosa54 4 ай бұрын
Hi nice bread - can this be reproduced with mechanical kneading ?? If so what methodology ?? Thx
@mfrobert100
@mfrobert100 6 ай бұрын
Hello! I love your video. Thanks for sharing your skills. Could you tell me what 100% starter hydration means. Also, what is the name of that beautiful and hypnotic piano melody you chose for your background audio? Amazing! Thank you.
@NicolasEjzenberg
@NicolasEjzenberg 6 ай бұрын
Hello when you do lamination, do you spray water on the table and your hands ?
@lavague7648
@lavague7648 2 ай бұрын
Hello from greece. I love your videos. I have reach the point to have nice oven spring and goodlooking and tasting bread. But i need more open crump. The wild stuff. There are several videos on this issue. Minimal shaping and lamination is one part of the equation that do not work with weak e.g a.p. flour. I think the key here is the flour. You need to get a very extensible dough. If i miss something pls advice.😂
@cheriecanelas2325
@cheriecanelas2325 2 жыл бұрын
His do you make that 65 g of sour dough started? Do u use 1:1:1 ratio to make 65g?
@matheussilva305
@matheussilva305 3 жыл бұрын
hi! i’ve been following your videos for a while now and you’ve helped me a lot with sourdough, thank you so much for that! i do have a question though, whenever i try to score my dough after cold fermentation it seems as though it hasn’t developed a “skin” on the outer layer, and so my blade usually drags and i can’t get a proper score.. do you have any tips? i’m thinking maybe my fridge isn’t cold enough (currently at 6ºC) but i would love to hear from you
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
yes, I think too that your fridge is not cold enough. At 6 degrees fermentation is not stopped the dough will overferment.
@jvallas
@jvallas 3 жыл бұрын
@@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee Then if there’s no getting around the fridge being a little too warm, is there a cure - such as leaving it in the fridge a bit longer, or maybe a short stint in the freezer, or do we just need to live with it? (Or get a new fridge - ha!)
@bryangerlini6435
@bryangerlini6435 3 жыл бұрын
Can I do the kneading with kitchen aid at a slowest speed?
@zhivkominoski754
@zhivkominoski754 2 жыл бұрын
Baked it this morning turned out amazing a bit on the darker side, I'm guessing the reason is my starter was feed just with whole wheat flour, and instead of strong bread flour I used all purposes one but it came out perfect
@gioiosa54
@gioiosa54 3 ай бұрын
Hi ,, I follow your recipe to the minute detail but somehow my dough is stiffer than yours and the Robaud kneading method cant be used -- any ideas as to why my dough seems stiff ---thx
@figenergungor8793
@figenergungor8793 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍
@gekngotan8338
@gekngotan8338 3 жыл бұрын
looks interesting and simple but am new to sourdough bread, so do you mind enlightening me as to what is your healthy starter like. Thanks for sharing your passion.
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee
@BreadbyJoyRideCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
keep it on room temperature not in the fridge, feed it twice a day with smal ration (1:3:3 - 1:5:5) and use it when is at peack
@zumbafanification51
@zumbafanification51 3 жыл бұрын
Wow ! That is beautiful open crumbs. Letting it proof for added 2hours did not do any damage. Do you know what happened when you overproof your dough?
@arushigupta8461
@arushigupta8461 2 жыл бұрын
Hi can we mix the dough using stand mixer?
@abhayumranikar
@abhayumranikar Жыл бұрын
Tried the recipe - brilliant!. I also loved the relaxing piano music - who is it by??. Keep up the good work!
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