Interesting how many bikepackers bring tools to fix the bike, but none to fix themselves :) A small first aid kit might be a good addition to the list.
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
That was an oversight by all of us. We talked about how we'd all forgotten a couple of hours in 😬 Definitely something I'd taken on previous trips but forgotten for this one.
@alch3mi5t.10 ай бұрын
nothing in a first aid kit saves a ride. It is over or it isn't. Plasters don't stop a ride ending injury.
@chizi74565 ай бұрын
I did my first journey from Lincoln UK to Amsterdam. Long story short I was 7 days in hadn’t used my first aid kit, the rain started to pour down, I found a barn to take shelter in. While undoing my bungee cords to see what got wet (everything 😭) one slipped off and hooked in my bottom lip slicing it straight through, I used some medical glue and plasters to stop the pretty heavy bleeding and cycled another 5 hours. Bring a first aid kit 😂
@bumbykitty2 жыл бұрын
My favourite hack: I like to carry a hotel shower cap. It is very small, but in a major downpour, it fits perfectly snugly over top of a bike helmet!
@davidadamus1775 ай бұрын
First saw this video several years ago. I just bought the Grail Gloves and did a few rides on them. Been having to tingling in my left arm and hand. Absolutely none to speak of while wearing these! Thanks !!
@HarrysYogaStudio3 жыл бұрын
I also take long merino tights, in case it turns cool at night and a few spokes.
@davehoover88534 жыл бұрын
I definitely 2nd the need for a small, customized first aid kit. Think about where you are going and make sure it is current for your planned trip. You don’t need much, but it can you or a friend much more comfortable if needed.
@mdags1978 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Thank you. I'm finding it hard to work out what to do and your comprehensive summary really helped me. Thanks again. 👍
@JeffStrong-y8w Жыл бұрын
Very nice and complete also a few items thy i didn't think about but of all the things that you showed i think the sleeping bag and pad / cover is probably the most important thing for comfortable bike packing thanks again
@rediculousman2 жыл бұрын
Because I wear glasses all the time, all I do is go to the chemist and get the $15 clip on sunnies. Super compact and you can flip them up when you don't need them!
@davidadamus177 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip about the Specialized Grail gloves! I have cubital tendonitis, looking forward to buying those this year!
@SeaBike0072 жыл бұрын
Few items that are good or great to have: First aid: 4 tablets of imodium, 10x tabs of ibuprofen, 2x benadryl tablets (for beestings), water purification tablets (as backup) One or two wet wipe with a generous amount of Benzoyl Peroxide soaked onto them 2 Small squares of moleskin (in case of bad blistering) Small amount of chamois cream in a baggy (life saver if the nips start to chafe, or if the saddle soreness gets really bad) If going for more than 4 days: Small amount of desitin in a baggy (Desitin is one of few things that will actively help saddle sores) Toiletry: Dried wet wipes (easy to rehyrdrate when needed) TP Toothpowder instead of toothpaste Tools: 2x Curved needles and thread (for tire sidewall repair, bag repair, or clothing repair) Mini-pliers Spare brake cable Spare shifter cable Zip ties Food/Water: Water purification system (gravity bag or squeeze, with a water syringe to flush the water filter too. Filters get clogged very eaisily) Safety: Spot Tracker Reflective tape on everything (particularly fave to put on the back of heels and just about everywhere else I have space for reflective tape) Misc: Small square ground fabric (dyneema or other similar light and strong fabric). Use this for standing on while changing shoes, or to sit on, or while putting on rain pants Rain gear: Rain pants Overshoes Water proof mittens Rain jacket Clothing: 2x spare socks. Always keep one pair of socks fully dry for camp/sleep. It does kinda sucks when it rains multiple times in a day and soaks multiple pairs of socks (I skimp on clothing, trying to stick to exactly that which I would need for cold wet riding, that is about as many layers as I ever need)
@neovo9035 ай бұрын
Sounds good but for me, the weight of waterproof overtrousers is a bit too much. If I'm going out when there's enough rain to justify them then I'm not going out. I can always just wear my quick drying shorts and my coat is long enough to avoid my underwear getting wet. I'd overheat with too many layers on.
@owenvermeulen1231 Жыл бұрын
ALWAYS have a spare deraileur hanger!!
@josephhaddakin70953 ай бұрын
Years ago (1990) I was riding my Cannondale in Panama (was stationed at Ft. Clayton) & had my rear derailleur ripped from the frame while bunny hopping felled trees. That was back in the day when the derailleur bolted directly to the aluminum frame. I had to cut the mangled hanger off & buy a cheapy derailleur that mounted to the axle during my stay in Panama. When I returned stateside, Cannondale said nope. You modified the frame.
@thedownunderverse4 жыл бұрын
True story: you have ESP! And you time travel. Almost every vid you’ve done (Bontrager Aeolus saddle review, Bryton vs Lezyne comparison, Spesh Roubaix tyre review, and plenty others) answers a specific question I found myself asking before I cane across the vid. Now just as I’m planning my first ever bikepacking trip in October... *boom*
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh very good! Glad to hear I can sling some well-timed advice. Perhaps my next video will have even more.
@ernestotorres19594 жыл бұрын
Great list, awesome too with the flat sunglasses. I definitely struggle with the bulk of the sutro's
@johnnyolsen44273 жыл бұрын
Thanks for shearing your packing list. I would also have toilet paper and wet wipes to improve hygiene before i put on my BIB:-)
@TheKleiss2 жыл бұрын
"Certain magic" on Fujifilm XT1. True!
@Karel.C4 жыл бұрын
I always tape an extra spoke on the downside of the top tube of my frame. Broke a spoke once. Lost half a day. Never again.
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Solid advice there! One of my ride buddies popped a spoke the day after we got back...
@barrybogart54364 жыл бұрын
@@JustRideAdelaide And take a tool to remove the cluster as they always break on that side! On a Rando 400 once I broke seven on one wheel.
@dmartel2434 жыл бұрын
Quick tip - you can wrap the spokes with thin foam and stick it in your seat tube :-)
@barrybogart54364 жыл бұрын
Traditionally spare spokes were attached to the chain stay, left side...
@neusprach7 ай бұрын
Really helpful, thanks for sharing!
@bosshydroic82104 жыл бұрын
I would recommend to others to bring some sort of first aid kit.
@willek13354 жыл бұрын
What would you put in your kit?
@Minecraftrok9994 жыл бұрын
Really? What part of a first aid kit is helpful and necessary enough to carry it with you?
@wasdalosdickarchen4 жыл бұрын
@@Minecraftrok999 alkohol pads and pflaster
@lmullen064 жыл бұрын
@@Minecraftrok999 I'm definitely in the minimalist first aid camp but anti-inflammatories, anti-chafing cream, and anti-blister (like Leuko tape) are musts for me. Most first aid people carry won't make the difference between life and death, but it can make you way more comfortable.
@Minecraftrok9994 жыл бұрын
@@lmullen06 fair enough, those 3 can be superbly useful and also needed often enough.
@jonfrance72012 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Just what I’ve been looking for. Right to the point and with some great kit recommendations 👍🏻
@inkstickart2 жыл бұрын
im a sucker for coffee so for sure my mini stove for water and some instant coffee lol
@marcellopacifici3 жыл бұрын
Love this video, I've watched maybe 5 times!! I'd like to ask you what kind of shorts are you wearing at 7:35, I'm not so keen on the roadie look and looking to viable alternatives to bib shorts :) Thank you!
@devianb4 жыл бұрын
I had to do a triple take on that SeatoSummit backpack.
@michaelgilmore24172 жыл бұрын
First aid pack? Thank you. Good presentation. MG
@robstarbuck69574 жыл бұрын
I have a similar Klymit sleeping mat and I think the valve leak can be solved / prevented with a very cheap o-ring. Sorry I can’t remember the size.
@pawezielinski93602 жыл бұрын
Hi, what's the name of the fork bag you can see it at 0:17 sec in the video?
@thehuge04 жыл бұрын
nice selection of equipment! Did you take any cooking gear? One optional thing you didn't include is a sleeping bag liner - I bought one last year and have really appreciated the extra layer when it gets chilly.
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Ah dammit! Yeah I do have a silk liner but I forgot to put it in the video! Agreed that they're awesome. I don't really bother with cooking gear. I tend to be ok with eating cold food to keep the setup more simple. If I were going properly off grid for a couple of days then I'd make the investment but for the vast majority of my trips I'm going through one town per day at least.
@barrybogart54364 жыл бұрын
@@JustRideAdelaide A titanium cookset from Vargo weighs ounces. I love it.
@suburbia2050 Жыл бұрын
re-Exposure cable, it is because the USB spec is not designed to be water-proof, water getting on the exposed electrical data contacts will corrode it over time and a rubber/plastic flap is not sufficient to stop this.
@luismedeiros71394 жыл бұрын
I use a 3 port anker charger, more charging at the same time hehehe
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
3 ports 🤯🤯🤯
@davidsture56773 жыл бұрын
Headlight, GPS head unit, and phone at the same time. Plug it all in before bed and good to go in the morning.
@jasboehlke2 жыл бұрын
Where can I find that S2S teeny backpack thingy? Great for shopping, toiletries, etc.
@edmundas9192 жыл бұрын
I would add: --Multitool/Swiss knife which has pliers, small scissors, file, tweezers, wood-saw. Not everything that brakes can be fixed with bike specific tools; --Needle, some thread and couple of bobby pins. When you fall and rip your shorts at least you won't need to ride bare ass; --Some paracord. Some things just may need to be tied, like extra water bottle on front roll bag for me, or you can use it as clothes line while camping for drying your gear; --Small roll of band aid. Cut as big band aid as you need for your wound or blister. --At least 10 pieces of toilet paper in waterproof bag. Use it when you're in the middle of nowhere and your insides decides to rush to exit and water is at premium. --Small pack of antibacterial wet wipes. Cleans wounds, armpit smell, greasy fingers after repairs. --Ear plugs. I have bikepacked only couple of times but birds chirping at 4AM was annoying. --Mini soap bar. For cleaning yourself and your gear during multi day trips.
@bumbykitty2 жыл бұрын
And Zip ties! Always bring zip ties in a variety of sizes.
@PinderProductions2 жыл бұрын
I like the mini backpack idea and that multitool looks good.
@alch3mi5t.10 ай бұрын
only Aussies would bathe in Australian rivers. 😂 Rest of us have watched too many "documentaries"
@Davet9983 жыл бұрын
A couple of Zip ties might come in handy.
@bumbykitty2 жыл бұрын
YES!!! They saved my ass more than once. First, when the hardware holding my handlebar bag broke. Second, when a freehub body went kaput - i zip-tied the casette to the spokes to be able to pedal home (luckily that was not on a long trip in the middle of nowhere!)
@stevenhay77562 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos, they are great. I'm planning to go for a 3 day bikepacking trip in November/December. I live in New South Wales. What would you recommend for a longsleve shirt for riding? I was going to take another shirt for when I'm not riding. But only the one shirt for when I am riding. I was planning on only using
@homerEMT2 жыл бұрын
How do you keep your bike from being stolen? First year to try bike packing, real concern I’ll be 100 miles out and bike is gone.
@SeaBike0072 жыл бұрын
Be aware of your surroundings, bike theft is mostly a problem only in urban areas. In part a person is overly paranoid about it because you are so dependent on the bike, keep it very close and in sight when in an urban area - otherwise you don't have much to worry about.
@afinch914 жыл бұрын
Could you share what wall mounts you’re using to hang your bikes?
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Sure! They're called Steadyracks. I do like them but they require drilling into the wall
@connorlipscomb36144 жыл бұрын
FYI the Patagonia jack you have is the Micro Puff jacket. Not Nano Puff.
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Dang... Got my Patagonia puffs wrong 🤦♀️
@tedcole4565 Жыл бұрын
"Archive sale" must mean "clearance"" in American retail terms. good to know if I ever cycle in Australia
@VolodymyrKostenko-q1mАй бұрын
Put 48-spoke tandem wheels on it. Then the load on the spoke is halved!!! And if 1-2 spokes break, there will be no runout on the wheel.
@bikepackingilokano2 жыл бұрын
First aid kit is missing?
@pyromancyglassart89753 жыл бұрын
qu on ur shoes what about track shoes ? with out the spikes ?
@twatts44364 жыл бұрын
What do you carry 'day' water in? And was that a meths / spirit stove? I find that with a framepack I can't fit any bottles whatsoever, or they're so small it's pointless. Have been using a camelback pouch on my back as a result. Thinking of getting a full frame bag and moving the pouch in there. For those in the UK Alpkit is equivalent to Knogg for outdoor stuff. And don't forget the obvious decathlon option!
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, the "day water" is in the legendary Zefal Magnum bottles. Have you heard of the Crank Tank? It could be a really great option if you struggle to get bottles inside the triangle. It's from and Adelaide designer too! adventurehydration.com/
@twatts44364 жыл бұрын
@@JustRideAdelaide thanks for the recommendation - will take a look!
@dalewebb75662 жыл бұрын
Also apidura have a frame bag specific water bladder in 2 sizes, 1.5 and 3 litres. The mouthpiece doesn't work for me, but can be swapped for a camelbak crux, or swap out the hose completely as it uses the same quick connect as hydrapak, camelbak and msr thru link if you need filtration
@2rismo3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this.
@zomgsekk Жыл бұрын
I was looking at the thumbnail of this video in my feed and was thinking "Dude, this bum has an awesome bike".
@JustRideAdelaide Жыл бұрын
It is appallingly expensive to ride your bike and sleep on the ground with minor comfort 😂
@SparksHealth4 жыл бұрын
Great video bruv🚴🏼♂️
@TommiHonkonen4 ай бұрын
i fold into myself like that too
@twatts44364 жыл бұрын
Just in time to get back from my own trip!
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully there wasn't some critical advice in this vid. And I hope you had a great trip 🙌
@SimpleTrax2 жыл бұрын
You missed water and food, snacks. The most important bits that take up significant part of space.
@ThatguyDiscGolf823 жыл бұрын
I take a fixed blade knife,fire starter, and a pair of headphones also
@jethrom87024 жыл бұрын
Nice, thank you!
@Giannis_Sarafis4 жыл бұрын
All my money had finished until the middle of this video...
@ActivesuezenOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Awesome local (South Australian) content... will check out the Roman Bivy. Where did you go?
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sue! We rode the Murray to Clare Cycling Trail, which I'm doing a trail guide for on La Velocita, starting in Clare. We did it so we could ride the Rockleigh 105 gravel fondo then ride home. Biiiiig 3 days of gravel riding 😍
@ActivesuezenOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
@@JustRideAdelaide husband and I rode the M2C in March. Started in Clare also. Took us 3 days 😳. Clare - Eudunda, Eudunda - Springton, Springton - MBridge. Soft tracks in places and head winds all the way. Loved it 👌
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Oh we absolutely loved it too! So much that we did it really fast 😂 We did Clare to Eden Valley day 1, then Eden Valley to Murray Bridge + back to Monarto day 2. Then the Rockleigh 105 and home day 3. That's why I've been basically sleeping for 2 days. Flippin knackered!
@RavelloBikes4 жыл бұрын
I did not see any sleep ware, do you sleep in the buff/ raw???
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Just the underwear mate! I've never liked sleeping fully clothed so I make sure to have good sleeping bag and bivy so I can sleep well 👌
@x3i4n Жыл бұрын
How many L of carriage do you need for all this?
@TheWW1014 жыл бұрын
Do u take baby wipes?
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah another thing I didn't mention. Kathmandu makes body wipes which are basically massive baby wipes. I bought a packet a couple of years ago that dried out but I still take a couple with me and put some water on them to re-vitalise them. Great for an on-road shower!
@climbtaiwan4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Your list matches mine almost to the item. Just curious what the weight of the gear is? I’m getting ready to do a 1300km trip with 6000m of climbing carrying 13kg of schtuff. Thanks!
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh man I'm far too weak to weigh my loaded bike 😂
@phoebetan75194 жыл бұрын
Do you have kids? If so, any tips for persuading your significant other to let you got for a weekend away bike packing. That's possibly more useful information than kit advice. :)
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! No, I don't. One of my ride buddies does though. He negotiates a reciprocal trip system. They both get equal nights away having fun. It seems to work well for them 😂
@phoebetan75194 жыл бұрын
@@JustRideAdelaide Sigh, my wife's hobby is working... but maybe that's on me. :) Just got to wait for the kids to grow up, get them hooked on cycling and go from there I guess!
@barrybogart54364 жыл бұрын
In 2011 I rode from Vancouver down the WA and OR coast and met a couple from Wales with a toddler. They rode from Calgary, AB to San Francisco. toddlerontour.com if it is still there.
@holyfox943 жыл бұрын
„A clever wife lets her husband on a stroll from time to time.“ and vice versa. Tell her greetings from Eva, Stuttgart, Germany. Married now for 40 years.
@vaughanbbrean71 Жыл бұрын
How about 1. Mudguards 2. Fork mounted pannier frames and/or front carrier 3. Front pannier bags 4. rear carrier 5. Rear panniers and maybe a handlebar bag, the Idea being keep the weight low and the bike will handle better......This was all worked out decades ago, but each to their own, this trend for "bike packing" with these silly bags hanging off the toptube and sprouting out of the saddle with no mudguards is a fad which will pass, and why no mounts on modern "gravel bikes" ? which add no weight but give options, if these trendy "gravel bikes" did have the fixings for proper carriers, they could always be quickly removed when the trip was over......now there's a thought !!!
@luismedeiros71394 жыл бұрын
Really lovely video, for a moment though you were getting to race to the rock 😂
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Naaaaah the ultra racing stuff is all out of my system. Having fun with mates is where I'm putting my bikepacking efforts.
@fbonde4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful - thanks -)
@eyeninja30434 жыл бұрын
Missing: Panadol, a few electrolyte tablets, a few water purification tablets. Otherwise completely on board with your set-up!
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah we had a chat on day one about how we'd all forgotten most medical stuff. I think we had 3 band aids to solve all problems between us 😅
@luismedeiros71394 жыл бұрын
Where does one get a barista 🤔 very important like a med kit
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
You cross your fingers that a mate takes a sudden, very keen interest in coffee! Plus my other mate I rode with is a bike mechanic. So Shane fixes our stuff, Josh does coffee, and I'm the event photographer. It works well!
@clarencelaboranti4835 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I´d say you did miss a replacement derailleur hanger for your frame. If that one piece bends beyond repair or breaks, it's over. And that's for single training rides, let alone a multi--day packing trip.
@bogusjimmy Жыл бұрын
Aren’t there many parts on your bike where if they break beyond repair then your ride is over?
@surjerrylee4 жыл бұрын
I'm a total noob but.... how do you shower on bikepack trip?
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jerry! I shower when I can at caravan parks or accommodation. On other days I carry body wipes that you can find at outdoor shops. They're like giant, thick baby wipes. So each night I'll wipe down as best I can. It's not a shower, but it's surprisingly refreshing after a gross and stinky day!
@dalewebb75662 жыл бұрын
Exped have a shower attachment for their schnozzle pumpsack. Seeing as I'm using the widget for inflation duties the pump sack is relegated to backup , shower and a bag for soiled or wet items
@trehoje4 жыл бұрын
which strap do you use for your camera ?
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
Peak Design Slide Lite. Very handy strap. I also have a Peak Design Wrist Strap I like to use. The little connectors are super handy so I've got a couple of cameras with them on so I can easily grab the strap I need.
@barrybogart54364 жыл бұрын
@@JustRideAdelaide I usually just use a wrist strap but hang it over the a bar end or bullhorn. Doesn't swing around much and camera is handy. I would never carry one on a strap while cycling as I have crashed too many times!
Fuckin hell man, that multi tool looks interesting..
@janetnorth288111 күн бұрын
Head net!
@johnnyramsay90643 жыл бұрын
Toilet roll !
@edscoble3 жыл бұрын
Can you make your content inclusive and accessible by formatting the auto captioning into closed captioning? it is sadly very hard to watch relying only on the auto captioning (Im Profoundly Deaf)
@edscoble3 жыл бұрын
@@geonwilliams It benefit everyone, not just Deaf people, another scenario is that people can watch it without sound. It benefit the KZbinr even more as it increase view count noticably more.
@ale_18844 жыл бұрын
NIce hat bro
@lagzouli12311 ай бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@bumbykitty2 жыл бұрын
Zip ties! Always take zip ties!
@bumbykitty2 жыл бұрын
And Toilet Paper, and a cycling cap.
@willhallahan39863 жыл бұрын
Haha! You have somehow cracked the password for my gear list, and copied most of it, right down to the S2S backpack
@brucesummers74483 жыл бұрын
Far better to use a lightweight bike rack and have a ground cloth and sleeping bag strapped to it where there is nothing in the way of your legs or to create more air drag while riding. With two riders the tools and cooking gear can be shared cutting the amount each person carries in half. With bike shops so ubiquitous there is no need to carry more than spare tubes and a couple of extra spokes. No reason for each rider to have a total load of more than 15 lbs regardless of where they are going.
@sebastianluchs7524 жыл бұрын
Love it but your 30$ pillow’s not cheap my friend
@HassanDibani3 жыл бұрын
It's almost nothing, man.
@MrKimberr3 жыл бұрын
30 is very cheap for a pillow like that.
@paddy_cakes4 жыл бұрын
Sweeeet
@paulespinoza7172 Жыл бұрын
For keeping my bivy off my face I wear a baseball cap to sleep in. And a $50 dollar bill, just in case.
@tenminutetokyo26434 жыл бұрын
DOOD!
@litaemeje2397 Жыл бұрын
This video is just a long advert.
@StorBenn Жыл бұрын
"Costs basically nothing.. like $20-$30!" ..... sigh
@myoau Жыл бұрын
i dnt know, i forgot to bring ma girlfriend. 😅
@bogusjimmy4 жыл бұрын
Bluetooth speaker for tunes...
@MM-ih4rj4 жыл бұрын
Ah nice, a 15 minute advertisement show
@lisamallardАй бұрын
a bag for trash
@michaelmerrills5762 жыл бұрын
I get it you are sponsored, next time just call it a tour kit advertisement. Happy to read and learn but maybe put the brands at the end instead of just selling brands
@JustRideAdelaide2 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. I'm not sponsored by a single brand. 90% of the products in this video are paid for out of my own pockey. The only things I didn't pay for were the jersey, waterproof jacket, and Bont shoes and none of those brands give me money. The Wahoo GPS was a review unit that I sent back.
@VoodooDewey692 жыл бұрын
Don't forget a small bible is the most important survival gear of anything else .
@innoxinnox23793 жыл бұрын
Surprised that you use Xiaomi power pack... Jackie Chan once said, "China-made explodes"... 🤡
@ascar77uk4 жыл бұрын
when starting bikepacking the Word BUDGET comes to mind in the 1st 30 seconds i saw a $400 sleeping bag and a $200 sleep mat as well as the rest of the gear, then you go on to talk rapha get real . if you can afford high end gear you are more lickley to stay in a hotel than a bivvy
@JustRideAdelaide4 жыл бұрын
The sleeping bag was $280 because Sea to Summit were changing over to the new range and I used an eBay sale. The mat was $150 back in 2017. My bivvy was bought during 50% off Christmas sales in 2016. The Rapha shorts are from the archive sale and were around 50% retail. I don't need to "get real" because these are all real things I've been using for years of bikepacking. If you have less, spend less on equivalent products. I'm not going to apologise for using quality gear because I use it enough to justify its full retail, as you can see though I don't pay full retail anyway.
@williamshafer31993 жыл бұрын
me on pension, can't afford high end even at discount prices, KMart / BigW is my budget :(