My Mario Kart Tier List Was WRONG..?

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[@glob8076]

I don't believe it's possible to dodge a blue shell shroomless with the halfpipe. Shortcat made some shorts about this, but basically, using a mushroom doesn't actually get you out of the radius of the blue shell explosion, it just makes you invincible from blue shells that land right as you activate it, and other sources of boost don't give you this effect.

[@eatingyoshi4403]

Technically you can still dodge on wave 6 cannons though because they give you more speed than every other cannon (for some reason), so you can dodge on like dk mountain and rainbow road.

[@theneekofficial8829]

I think the half pipe does work because it gives you the same effect as a mushroom and i think i remember shortcat saying the same from memory

[@eatingyoshi4403]

@@theneekofficial8829 no your misremembering, its opposite of that.

[@dagsmk]

Congrats on 500k!!

[@enzotruant4073]

Yeah CONGRATS Troy

[@somebodyoncerolledme7211]

Totally deserved but it should have happened way sooner, Troy should be a lot closer to a million right now

[@ItsManu001]

Fun fact about Mario Kart 8 Deluxe stats and why Inside Drift feels so strange. In this game there were supposed to be 2 types of Traction: Off-Road and On-Road. The Off-Road Traction is the Traction stat that is also shown in the game and jt determines how much you slip on slippery tracks (and it also determines your max speed on slippery tracks but it's pretty negligible). The name "Off-Road" is kinda misleading because vehicle with different Off-Road Traction behave the same way on actual Off-Road (that according to game's internal code it's just a slippery track called "DIRT" and its values don't change with levels unlike the values for the other slippery tracks (SAND and ICE). The code for the conversion tables for Off-Road Traction are pretty much copy-pasted from Mario Kart 7 Off-Road stat... with values changed of course. The other type of Traction is On-Road Traction that SHOULD determine how much you slip on regular track when you start a Drift. Every character and vehicle part is ready to make this stat work (they all have different values of this stat) but this stat doesn't work at all because all the values in its conversion table are set to 0.75 regardless of the level, meaning that every combo slips the same way on regular track. Yes, all vehicles do always slip in this game, including Inside Drift Bikes, that's why they have that awkward start making them feel "Hybrid". This stat is ported from Mario Kart 7 as well, and it was called "Drift". Yes, you've heard me out correctly: Mario Kart 8 was supposed to have a "Drift stat" (On-Road Traction), but it's not used at all: it's just forgotten junk code... SAD.

[@webbowser8834]

...Rosalina this stat just never ceases to confuse the crap out of me. I always boiled traction down to "how big of a speed and handling penalty do you get when you drive on a slippery track".

[@A_Person_64]

Honestly feels like Mario Kart should just use 4 stars like SRB2 Kart does. Acceleration, Top Speed, Handling and Weight. Mini-Turbo should just be how high your acceleration/handling is to give those builds a push.

[@TonyMacaroni69420]

20:25 *dies, falls off track* "ok we have to lock in now" *dies, falls off track immediately again* 😂

[@onceuponaban]

Hey, he didn't specify locking in _a win_ :)

[@huckstrickland4396]

Troy made it to 500k subscribers! I am so genuinely happy for him and I have grown to appreciate his videos so much the past two years! So deserved and keep up the good work Troy! You genuinely make us proud! 😄

[@zachdamenti4387]

CONGRATS ON 500K TROY!!!! Your channel just keeps on getting more popular with all these subscribers! It’s also been 5 years since I first started watching your channel and 3 years since I first subscribed to your channel! Thanks again for all your exclusive and generous video content that you upload every single week! I always feel entertained!

[@LiamDeege]

So you've been around since 2019 or so Zach?

[@zachdamenti4387]

@@LiamDeege Yes indeed!

[@LiamDeege]

@@zachdamenti4387 I've been here on and off since I was 7 back in late 2012/early 2013, when Troy only had about 30K something or so.

[@zackum]

Congrats on 500k! 🎉

[@TJ.Harper]

Congrats on 500k. You truly deserve it. And I’ll be here when you get to 1 mil. there’s truly no dedicated Mario kart KZbinr out there like you, the comittment and time you spend just proves how dang good you are. From Mario kart Wii to 8 deluxe, from BAM SHOCK DODGE! to help out with retro rewind and bring more to the modded Mario kart community (including myself) I thank you and I’m excited for what awaits in the future. Much love Troy!

[@LiamDeege]

I have watched your vids Troy since you had around 30K something back in late 2012/early 2013. I'm happy to see you come so far over the last decade or so.

[@mattpatt4976]

now he's racing for 30k in mk8dx, how times have changed

[@LiamDeege]

Times really have changed fast over the last 11 years my friend. And as of now I’m continuing to make a playlist to serve as some kind of a legacy of his videos over the past decade and a half of great content, although this is based on my favorite videos I watched of him growing up.

[@christopheredwards788]

Congratulations on 500K Troy!!👏🏿🎉🎉

[@pipeframe]

2:15 average Mario Kart moment... Also hey congrats on the 500K! I'm an old sub with a new channel, super excited to see more of you! I'm amazed you can keep such consistent content between MKWii and MK8DX; huge respect.

[@Rackals]

Congrats on 500k Troy! That's amazing! Found you back a couple years ago and have been watching every upload ever since :)

[@Miniya]

"i got used to it OVER THE YEARS"..... hearing this being said about a DLC track feels so wrong bc for me it still feels like the dlc got released for the first time just a few months ago 😭 it's so weird 😭

[@jiyzo]

TRUE

[@HS-mn6jc]

Congrats on 500K!! Love seeing you hit these milestones each and every time :)

[@mikad9610]

ive been watching your channel for YEARS, i remember being so excited when you came back from your hiatus and started road to 9999! and now youre at 500k 🎉 congratulations, troy!

[@christianheaps9711]

Congrats on 500k big boy! 🙌🏼

[@ForkOfDestruction]

Congrats on 500k 🎉🎉

[@Carlthelegend]

Congrats on 500k Troy! I support you. Also good luck on the race to 30k

[@MachemRodez]

Congrats on 500K Troy! I started watching in 2020 and well, I'm still around, so I'd say your content is pretty solid :)

[@pansxsal7507]

Congrats on 500k!!! 🎉🎉🎉 Huge milestone 🎉

[@sediew]

19:39 OMG I JUST REALIZED CONGRATSSSSSSSS ON 500K!!! FINALLYYYYYYY

[@sediew]

Troy, I have been watching you for years. I have lost count of how many videos I’ve watched but I remember watching you a lot when we were stuck inside our houses. I have been growing up and you as well, but you still kept uploading videos and coming up with new ideas almost daily. Thank you for being there to entertain me by being yourself playing Mario Kart. It’s been a journey. Who knows what will happen next year, maybe a new Mario kart will have released by the time we reach another milestone. So, congrats on 500k! Road to 1M soon! I really want to play MKWii again once I get a Wii back or computer. Maybe one day. Once again, I am happy for you Troy!

[@jdbrocks1200]

Congrats Troy on 500K subs. you are my favorite youtuber and I love watching all of your videos. you deserve it :)

[@blackfire4772]

Congrats on 500k Troy! Love the videos

[@ventopha]

THIS IS A CERTIFIED 500K CLASSIC! congrats troy, been here to see the last 200k and it’s well deserved and earned!

[@natemilich659]

Congrats on 500k Troy keep up the great work!!

[@Neon1928]

Maybe you could try a style tier list. Best looking frames/wheels/characters and form a few of what you think are the most stylish/silly setups. Also congratulations on 500k!

[@LazerN_]

like I mentioned in BN yesterday, congrats on 500K! Very deserved for the best Mario kart player around! 🎉🎉

[@alonsobazo4619]

Congrats on 500K, Troy! You really deserve it!

[@enzotruant4073]

“BAM! SHOCK DODGE!” Are my favorite words 3:16

[@muchcreepz6460]

Halfway to 1 million subs! Congrats on 500k Troy!

[@torcheyes7769]

Great video! Love this channel

[@DashtheBard]

As an inside drift main, I would understand putting any of the ID Bikes one tier below the other frames with similar stats (Yoshi and Comet one tier below Teddy Buggy, for example). Despite the perks, the drawbacks for ID is usually too much for racers who normally run OD.

[@zacheryb1121]

Yeah I completely agree. I started playing inside drift because I just liked yoshi bike but very quickly came to prefer it. It's just kinda sad seeing people rate ID low because they don't exactly know how to play it. For example with the rocket bike at the beginning, the way he's driving it is very outside drift adjacent which is why his lines weren't great. I would love to see a tier list from someone who consistently plays both OD and ID or even an inside main.

[@sparklywafflez3906]

so exciting to finally see 500k next to your name! gg and heres to the next 500

[@nehemiaharndt5772]

Been watching since before I graduated high school. I think 2017/2018 or somewhere around there. You are one of the most entertaining KZbinrs out there, and you keep coming up with new ways to make Mariokart interesting. My one regret is that I have no way to play MKWii. I wish I did because that is the only thing holding me back from a membership or twitch sub! Keep up the good work Troy!

[@Michaeltje89]

8:25 That yoshi just teleported there...

[@phantomakuma1384]

Congrats on 500k Troy❤️ I’m loving the vehicle wars what a good way to revive FlounderFest 💯❤️

[@plasmanlucas7313]

Congratz on 500k Troy !

[@racing_duck]

500k! Congrats, you deserved it!

[@nicholasstocker8864]

Congratulations on 500K subscribers! Here’s to a million!

[@Limitless_Realm]

I love your videos TWD98. You keep my interest in Mario Kart!

[@LiamDeege]

He made my interest come back during COVID and especially because I had never played it until March of 2020 believe it or not.

[@user-tm4tb5vf5b]

Congratulations on 500k Subscribers including myself I really appreciate you making new videos for me to watch so I can learn from you and others, also good luck on your road to 30k VR I believe in you. Best of luck to you and Rod! You inspire me to get my journey to 20k back again I'm coming out of retirement now from Worldwides.

[@orangedzn4132]

congratulations on 500k! you should make a retro rewind inside drift vehicle tier list for the run of it :)

[@azuremk__3101]

Huge congrats on 500K subs!

[@Resolusean-]

i think what’s more amazing than troy hitting 500k, is that there are 500k people who actually enjoy watching mario kart😂. but congratulations bro, you are probably one of a few people that can yap an entire 30min video and still be interesting😂

[@jonwooooo]

I used to use fem villager+city tripper for ultimate cute combo with S tier stats but eventually I switched to princess+scooty. The Mini-turbo just feels too good.

[@itsbud_1847]

Congrats on 500k man 🎉

[@LiamDeege]

Congrats on finally hitting 500K Troy! Now for the long road to 600K!

[@PMix777]

5:10 agree would prefer of there was a star that came out of the leaf like in this game, love these videos

[@heavyhittergaming3881]

19:39 CONGRATS!

[@Tatertwat05]

The city tripper was even more underrated when you realize how good the black yoshi combo looks

[@AsX950]

It's funny I like the way the inside drift is on the bikes and I pretty good at using them 😄

[@awesomeomerfamily8381]

Congratulations Troy you are now beyond 500k subscribers

[@canolibridge6232]

Congrats on 500k!! 🎉

[@pinkyoshi_]

Congrats on 500k Troy!! 🎉

[@torcheyes7769]

Nice job getting 500k subscribers

[@YoshiBaconYT]

Congrats on 500k ❤

[@mistybumblebee]

speed based combos are underrated. with them you have to play a more defensive playstyle, and using your mushrooms to recover after a hit and making a huge breakaway into first place when the opportunity is there. they excel at holding 1st place. i also think inside drift works really well with speed builds since one advantage inside drift does have over outside drift is that drifting doesn't slow you down, and you can see players behind you better. power items are also way better on higher speed stat!

[@mrmediocre848]

I do wish red shells didn't knock you out of the air on cannon gliders. Red shells and cannons should be reworked a bit.

[@bboga8547]

Oh yeah, a track tier list from you would be super cool

[@Eduardo_Lima.]

Congrats on 500k Troy! ❤ 🎉

[@joelbueno5644]

Congrats on 500k subscribers Troy 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@MrT3a]

Congrats on reaching 500k !

[@SauceBoss14]

Glider tier list would be a really good April fools joke video next year

[@yoshinumberone]

CONGRATS ON 500K SUBS!!!

[@user-tm4tb5vf5b]

23:34 Banana Slip Blue Shell Dodge WOW!

[@Doggo360]

CONGRATS ON 500K SUBS YOOOOOOO

[@Yahahaha_777]

19:07 only a legend could do that

[@stuffenjoyer6677]

Congratulations on 500k subs!

[@xEdge19]

Congrats on 500k been here since the og clan wars of mkwii

[@hifty7779]

Congratulations on 500k!!!

[@Dead_JC]

Congrats on 500k, Troy!

[@wanderingshadow1372]

I'd love another sort of video where you rank the Mario Kart Wii vehicles best to worst. I know you did a tier list 5 years ago, but I didn't feel like it was informative enough on some of the lower ranking vehicles. It'd be great to see your full ranking.

[@rryumi]

Congrats on half a million Troy!

[@VoidSinister]

glad I could be apart of the first 500k!!! you got me into modded mkwii, you're the goat!

[@jamesoncasey1820]

Half a million bro been here since 70k congrats!!!

[@KatsTPhotos]

Congrats on hitting 500k subs Troy!

[@SullySadface]

Grats on 500k Troy!

[@nehemiaharndt5772]

The second bomb at 18:46 was EVIL!!!

[@goldgamer8687]

finally 500k. Congrats

[@grantworth]

congrats on 500k!

[@jriese4923]

500k congrats!

[@carlnicklin7378]

Lets go troy. Good luck getting to 30k

[@SIR_HANDELE]

Congrats on 500k 🙏🙏🥳🥳🥳

[@michaelharden2929]

I play using the jet bike. I chose it years ago, not knowing the tiers or popular online vehicles. I have gotten used to it. It has great speed but you always gotta look ahead and anticipate drifts early. Hitting walls and getting hit by items seem to punish this vehicle more than most.

[@user-tm4tb5vf5b]

22:29 BAM SHOCK DODGE!! YAY

[@Rackals]

Even though the gliders don't matter too much, a glider tier list would still be good for the memes

[@NotPythagoreas]

Congrats on 500k

[@elijahhenry5760]

Happy 500K to the legend!!!!!!

[@tailsthefox53]

congratulation on 500k my brother and I remember subing to you on 2020 at 273k If i remember correctly and it was heaven to me. If you can do the big stream on the weekend so I can join and watch and enjoy. lately life was so hard on me and i felt so down but whenever you upload I became happier and stay optimistic. Thanks you so much and road to 1 million starts today.

[@crestofhonor2349]

Congrats on finally making it to 500k subs

[@jacobrocket1734]

I think part of why the karts still feel clunky is cause your still using rollers with them. for example for the 500 sl roadster it actually feels kinda nice with the slim/crimson wheels. aka some wheels work better with different frames (sometimes the character selected also effect the feeling of jank)

[@morgana4753]

The Mach 8 has very high anti gravity speed so it had a big advantage in tracks like Dragon Driftway

[@idrathernot8459]

I switched from City Tripper to Standard Bike/Flame Rider because CT just didn’t have enough speed.

[@Doeper__]

congrats on 500k

[@jdiaz4877]

500K baby! Btw if you think a vehicle is bad for you there is nothing wrong about that it's just a matter of oppinion!

[@mcgogy]

Congrats on 500K! You should try a Mario Kart Wii Mod called "Mario Kart Virtual Night" because it has some fun stuff in it!

[@Irixion]

GLA Frame: Here Troy, take this hot cocoa so you feel better and give me a better tier

[@vendettaplayz4153]

The mach 8 has the same stats as the ink striker (except for the invincibility stat) and the miis will have the same stats depending on the weight. Lightwieght is Baby Mario, Midwieght is Mario, and heavy weight is Wario.

[@ThePirateMan777]

Hey troy i really like your mario kart Videos I'm a huge fan I just wanna say congratulations of you being the best Mario kart gamer!