My Mid Season F1 Rankings In 2024!

[@tunji4x]

Russel 9th in B tier? what, had a better start to the season than his teammate and almost always better qualifying, 2 poles, would be ahead of hamilton rn if not for he 2 DNFs out of his control in austria and spa. criminally underrated

[@Kinggrave]

Think you meant silverstone and spa. I probably should have put Russell A but by being high B he’s basically there anyway

[@tunji4x]

@@Kinggrave yeah my bad silverstone and spa, I think hamiltons wins and the McLaren v verstappen drama has shadowed his performance this season

[@KeaganShannon-n7s]

Just gonna put it out there, Logan has had a worse car for 6-9 races out of the first 14. He also could have gotten points if Williams didn’t mess up his pit stop in Silverstone. Love the video

[@Kinggrave]

Still crashing and making mistakes tho. Unfortunately there’s been no improvement from last year

[@KeaganShannon-n7s]

@@Kinggrave true in races he has gotten worse, qualifying has gotten a little better

[@Kinggrave]

@KeaganShannon-n7s I meant he’s beaten Alex once in sprint quali but still not yet in real quali it’s not looking good

[@RLLuke]

​@@Kinggrave Sprint H2H in 2024 Sprint Qualifying: Logan 2-1 Alex Sprint Races: Logan 2-1 Alex My 🐐

[@Kinggrave]

@RLLuke what a king

[@Lazlum]

Lando an S for having only 1 win with the fastest car? xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@Kinggrave]

Did you predict lando to be 2nd in the championship at mid season?

[@Lazlum]

@@Kinggrave No just like i didnt even think Lewis will have 2 times more wins than Lando, does that mean i should rank him higher?

[@Kinggrave]

You shouldn’t rank Lewis higher because he’s been worse over the season 🤯

[@Lazlum]

@@Kinggrave Im not thats the point , what you were predicting before the season is irrelevant to the current performance

[@Kinggrave]

He’s overachieving is what I’m saying 🤯 Overachieving = doing well

[@niqo15]

Lando not in S he fumbled like 4 wins at the start

[@Kinggrave]

Yeah in hindsight I’ve realised I should’ve put him in A

[@zzz306]

Great upload as usual, nice editing

[@Kinggrave]

Cheers man x

[@isakibrahim8316]

Norris being S is insane, must be a mclaren fan

[@Kinggrave]

No just appreciating that he’s overperformed expectations

[@isakibrahim8316]

@@Kinggrave over performing with only 1 win despite having the fastest car since Miami?

[@Kinggrave]

Yes. Stayed consistent and stays 2nd in the championship going into the break 👍🏻

[@isakibrahim8316]

@@Kinggrave After leclerc won Monaco, the following 6 GPs before summer break he didn’t finish in the point 3 times following horrible luck. Going into the summer break Leclerc is still closer to Norris than he is to Verstappen and Max not only had an inferior car but also took a 10 place grid drop. Still think Norris has been good?

[@Kinggrave]

@isakibrahim8316 yes and you’re lying if you think he hasn’t been. I did say he should be closer to max but he’s still driven well

[@g77v7nn7]

icl perez still being in a redbull after the summer break is crazy, somebody is pulling the strings to keep or something because if that was any other driver they would be banished to indycar by now

[@Kinggrave]

I think it’s been figured out to be the work of liberty because they are scared that the Mexican Grand Prix would be a flop if Perez was not there. That’s literally the ONLY reason that makes any sense

[@leonardohernandezlugo976]

@@Kinggravecheco va a remontar en la segunda mitad de la temporada

[@Carguy-tt1uz]

I love how good Hulkenburg has done.

[@Kinggrave]

I too love how good Hulkenberg has been. My favourite driver

[@Carguy-tt1uz]

@@Kinggrave He is probably one of my favorites as well

[@jackelofnar]

Lando ranking is way too high with all the mistakes he keeps making

[@Kinggrave]

Yeah I have come to the realisation since making this video that he should be in A. I moved him into S last minute and it was a mistake (ironic huh)

[@kokushibo7464]

russell clears lando what are u smoking

[@Kinggrave]

Don’t know about that one chief. They are close tho I’ll give you that (my ranking is pretty shit)

[@ManaTeal47]

I'll be OK with this season if Max has to win the championship normally (~50% race wins + podiums) unlike the broken shit we've seen the last two years. Also, I want Yuki in that second Red Bull, because Max will have no idea how to handle him

[@Kinggrave]

He’s won the championship normally the last two seasons what 😂😂 I think yuki would falter a bit but show much more than maxs teammates the past 5 years

[@sleepyumi]

Tbh the RB car wasn’t really slower as far back as May, Mclaren did bring in huge upgrades compared to RBs kinda mediocre approach before Imola but im not sure they put the car ahead, moreso just closed the gap. Looking at the positions of recent races its starting to feel that Max is almost washed at wheel to wheel racing, even if he still dominates laptimes. Im not saying he isn’t a top driver ofc he is, but his position is not secure.

[@Kinggrave]

Nah max isn’t washed at wheel to wheel racing but the problem is that he has to go against Norris in a much faster car. Norris hasn’t really raced him yet and so a crash was bound to happen

[@sleepyumi]

@@Kinggrave im not too sure tbh, definitely doesn’t feel like 2020 Max though. And im really not sure its fair to say he is in a much slower car since RB is still much faster than Ferrari who were the only real team within half a minute of RBs car at the start of the season. The pack is definitely closing with Mercedes on Ferraris tail but Canada showed that RBs car is still faster than the Mclaren depending on the track. Ik its popular to say RB is a slow car now but it really isn’t, its still faster than ferrari and Mercedes Max is giving it 110% as he said but it doesn’t quite feel like he is at his previous level, especially after the UK and Hungary.

[@Kinggrave]

@sleepyumi last few races Mercedes have also been quicker. They normally go well around silverstone and it showed even though the rain evened it out

[@sleepyumi]

@@Kinggrave i mean they drive quicker but i dont think their car is as quick

[@willroberts9790]

My changes..... Lando down to A. Oscar up to S. Both Ferrari boys to B. Yuki to B. Fernando to a low C. K Mag to D. Esteban and Lance to B and Logan to D.

[@Kinggrave]

Agree with lando. Agree with piastri (he was originally there but I felt I was using recency bias so moved him down) Ferrari stay in A, they have done well with the 4th best car Yuki stays A (consistent for once) Fernando stays B (not done a lot wrong and Aston are 5th still) Kmag would be D if we’re talking results. But the B was kind of a joke Esteban I’ll accept Stroll stays C but high C Logan stays F (I’m sorry, he sucks)

[@willroberts9790]

@@Kinggrave I'd argue Fernado has been getting beaten by Lance quite alot since Miami. For expectations Fernando has to go below Lance. I'd argue that the Ferrari boys make to many mistakes ( especially Charles) they were alright in the last two rounds but idk. For me to be convinced about an A they'd need to be both fighting more consistently in the top 3-4

[@Kinggrave]

@willroberts9790 it’s not helped by Ferrari being mid as hell as the seasons gone on. The only bad races were Canada, from strategy for Charles to off day for Carlos. And in silverstone they fucked the strategy again. Apart from these few weekends, they have been decent and have been scoring points. Stroll has beaten Fernando like 4 times over the whole season so far, I think we can cut him some slack.

[@crvena-zvezdaogi357.]

Bearman s tier

[@Kinggrave]

Would be too unfair

[@crvena-zvezdaogi357.]

@@Kinggrave why

[@crvena-zvezdaogi357.]

He drove 1 race and finished 7th

[@Kinggrave]

@crvena-zvezdaogi357. It’s a joke

[@crvena-zvezdaogi357.]

@@Kinggrave ok but is A or B ok

[@dias_fc]

Evry time longan has a good qualy he always messes it up for example Netherlends he crashed and from 10th he droped down to last in 1 corner

[@Kinggrave]

Didn’t help that he also binned it in qualifying 3 which meant he started 10th. Unfortunately Logan is another mick, but at least mick showed SOMETHING

[@dias_fc]

@@Kinggrave Mick was fighting Verstappen in Silverstone and if Verstappen didn't go aggressive he would have overtook him But I think Hulkenberg was the right choice for haas

[@CJM44]

Hold on a minute. Verstappen has had 1 bad strategy and the mechanics and pit crew are still the best in formula 1. Red Bull consistently have fast pit stops. The car is built around him (which still doesn't excuse Checo being so poor but it's why every season he falls away). And Red Bull have had the fastest, dominant car for almost all the races bar 4. Verstappen is performing where he should be. Nothing stellar but rather Checo is hugely underperforming.

[@Kinggrave]

Mclaren have had the fastest car since Miami it’s not even a question. Red bull are still the best team but mistakes from pit crew and mechanics have lead to lower results for max. Verstappen is definitely performing to a higher standard barring the last few races

[@CJM44]

@@Kinggrave I have to disagree. Red Bull have an insane pit crew. (Which is another reason why Perez should be in F) and they were insane in Spa. Definitely have been faster than McLaren in certain races after Miami. I’m not sure what mistakes you refer too if I’m being honest. I’m always blown away at how consistently they are under 2.5s on the pit stop

[@Kinggrave]

@CJM44 Austria when they fucked max’s pit stop which, coupled with the lock up from max, put him into the clutches of Norris. They are mostly flawless though and I don’t remember the last time they did a slow pit stop apart from Austria obviously

[@CJM44]

@@Kinggrave ok but I would counter with Norris having a 4.4s pit stop which made him come out behind Hamilton at silverstone. The fact is Max is still performing at a good level but nothing stellar. Imo he’s still A tier but Norris is B tier and Hulkenburg is the only S tier driver

[@Kinggrave]

@CJM44 ok I clearly can’t reason with you. I just cannot put the championship leader who isn’t even in the quickest car anymore before Hulkenberg (even though I love and respect that man)

[@szczurex9221]

"remember, don't use recency bias in max case"; "uses recency bias in every other case" tell me you're mv fan without telling me that

[@Kinggrave]

Go on, tell me who I used it for. The floor is yours

[@ItsMeRedd_]

I would put Piastri higher since he’s developing in such a high rate than Lando, but hey it’s your opinion and we can have what we want. But I’ll be honest Norris is kinda having a habit on bad starts when he’s on pole, Russia 2021 lost it to Carlos, Brazil 2023 lost it to Max, China 2024 lost it to Lewis, Spain 2024 lost it to George, and of course Hungary 2024 lost it to Oscar, now having bad starts is understandable, you can have a bad day a bad start and all but losing it immediately when your on pole in the first corner is not a coincidence it’s a habit.

[@Kinggrave]

I agree with all that you’re saying. Oscar is getting there but he’s not there quite yet. Let’s not forget, Hamilton used to be quite inconsistent on starts but still challenged for the wins regardless. Mind you, that was at the height of the merc dominance where there were less competitors but still, Norris should be doing better

[@JETTAZZAAC]

Lets be honest magnussen is a B tier driver without the 'funny' factor. His driving is because hes playing the team game.

[@Kinggrave]

Yeah I agree with that tbh. He’s got crucial results for the team by doing his defending so yeah, worth the B

[@racing1000]

Interesting... I think Russell and the Alpines are underrated in your list, and Hulkenberg and Tsunoda are overrated. Russell has lost a lot of points in the championship standings thanks to reliability issues and the DSQ in Spa, and the Alpine car hasn't been that much faster than the Williams on average this season. Hulk and Yuki have both comfortably beat their teammates this year, but their teammates are nothing special either. Imo S Verstappen, Leclerc, Norris A Hamilton, Sainz, Russell, Piastri, Hulkenberg B Alonso, Tsunoda, Albon, Gasly, Ocon C Ricciardo, Bottas D Stroll, Magnussen F Perez, Zhou, Sargeant

[@Kinggrave]

Some parts of this I agree with but I can’t put Hulkenberg below anyone apart from verstappen. And tsunoda has to be higher

[@racing1000]

@@Kinggrave Tsunoda was great at the start of the season, but over the last few rounds, on average, he has been outperformed by a washed Ricciardo. And Hulkenberg has dominated Magnussen this season, that's true, but he still has weekends when his pace is not very impressive, like last time out in Spa, for instance.

[@joechan5037]

How you gonna dox russels ranking when he's only really made one mistake in australia. The other two DNF/DSQ not really his fault

[@Kinggrave]

I don’t actually know tbh. I think since that sabotage email happened lewis has started beating George so maybe that’s why?

[@miggygetright6344]

KMag respect love it

[@Kinggrave]

Doesn’t get enough and sadly he’s leaving :(

[@miggygetright6344]

@@Kinggrave it’s okay as long as he gets a full time Indy drive

[@Kinggrave]

Hopefully he does and hopefully he does an ericsson

[@Dxniell89722]

My top 10 drivers: 1. VER 2. LEC 3. NOR 4. RUS 5. PIA 6. SAI 7. HAM 8. HUL 9. ALO 10. TSU

[@Kinggrave]

Hulkenburg too low in my eyes. The rest of it I can understand

[@zozo9469]

@@KinggraveYep, everyone has the top team bias, even Tsunoda should be higher

[@raunakroy1738]

Ocon should be at least low A... Apart from Monaco, he's beating Gasly 11-4 in quali and 10-5 in race. What more can you expect?

[@Kinggrave]

If ocon is A then Gasly is A. Both too high. Ocon is literally behind in the standings so that makes 0 sense to put him 2 tiers above Gasly who’s ahead of him

[@raunakroy1738]

@@Kinggrave Gasly's only ahead due to team orders in Canada... In no stats this year, Gasly is ahead of Ocon

[@Kinggrave]

@raunakroy1738 apart from the standings which are the most important…

[@raunakroy1738]

@@Kinggrave but it was not important when Ocon beat Alonso in 2022?

[@Kinggrave]

@raunakroy1738 try Alonsos 5 dnfs to ocons 2. Gaslys got 3 (if you count the dns) and is still ahead of ocon despite him only having 1 dnf

[@8pygplaysb]

tsunoda better than russel and saiz?

[@Kinggrave]

Yes we’re going off what they’ve done with their machinery not the championship order

[@PartyFighter]

Kinggrave's uploaded lets gooooo

[@Kinggrave]

Took my sweet time but we backkkkkk

[@PartyFighter]

@@Kinggrave Worth it everytimeeeee

[@franciscoesteves1561]

Mclaren lineup better than the Mercedes lineup ? If the Mercedes lineup were on that Mclaren car, they would already be ahead on the constructors title, and we would have a serious driver ´s title fight between them and Max. Norris inst´t good enough and Piastri is still not there yet ( he will). They have bottled wins after wins, and Mercedes has more wins than them, which is insane to the car diferrence for the whole season.

[@Kinggrave]

On paper it is better. Mercedes have 2 wins because Norris and verstappen crashed into each other and George stole a lucky win. The ceiling is way higher for the mclarens than the Mercedes atm so that’s why I said that. Mercedes have just actually taken their chances which is why they have 3 wins

[@franciscoesteves1561]

@@Kinggrave The ceiling is higher because they have the best car. Your argument is just proving my point : they have taken their chances, which is something that the Mclaren drivers have failed to many times. How can they be better?

[@Kinggrave]

@franciscoesteves1561 the ceiling is higher because they have way more potential. This is lando and Oscar’s first year with the fastest car, they’ve made mistakes and they will learn from them. On paper, they are better

[@franciscoesteves1561]

​@@Kinggrave You have to be trolling. So, you prefer a driver who bottles race after race despite being in the fastest car ( and by the way, he is in formula 1 since 2019, he isn´t a rookie )over someone like Lewis? I get the appeal on Piastri, but for now, he isn´t better than Rusell, who has more pole positions than him, in a worse car this season, and whose benchmark is Lewis, while Piastri benchmark is Norris . If Mercedes had a better car, which driver lineup would you prefer?

[@Kinggrave]

@franciscoesteves1561 yeah mate I don’t care if Norris has been in f1 since 2019, so has Russell. As I said before, this is Norris’ first year in a fast car, of course he’s gonna make mistakes 🤯 Poles mean fuck all as proven by leclerc. And if Mercedes had a better car which lineup is better. Still the mclarens

[@greataki]

HÜLKENBERG ON THE PODIUM BABY!!

[@Kinggrave]

Wanted to put him top and he might be by the end of the season

[@randomppl6380]

Ocon Russell higher

[@Kinggrave]

You think? Russell’s made mistakes, as had ocon. That’s why they’re lower

[@officialredactor]

@@Kinggrave this is my list: S ( Ver, Hulk, pia) A (rus,nor,ham, lec,sai) B( tsu, alo, ric, str,) C ( gas, oco, bea, alb, bot )F(perez, mag, zhou, sar)

[@Kinggrave]

@officialredactor bottas in F and tsunoda in B with ricciardo 😔

[@officialredactor]

@@Kinggrave fair, id move bot to c and ocon down to f. Yeah i think ricciardo in B cos they've been quite even in the last few races

[@Kinggrave]

True but yuki was dunking on him for most of the year so far. I just think it’s hard to put teammates in the same tier unless it’s the alpines who are pretty even