My New 2023 Alfa Romeo Giulia QV Spec & First Drive | Auto Fanatic

[@bcisn]

I went from QV -> G82 Manual -> G82 xDrive -> c63S -> back to a 2023 QV. It’s truly the best in its class (

[@autofanaticcars]

Wow thanks for sharing

[@BinisaElebo]

Can you explain why it's a very hard decision for me to make

[@ghostridertom]

I also do have an RC F Fuji Speedway (blue one) so I am looking forward to compare with the QV. Both cars have a soul that I can say right here right now.

[@dominicancash]

This car is not better than g82 x drive at nothing, no on the track , no from a dig , no from a roll , no in technology, no in tuning options , no better engine s58 is years better engine , if this car would be better wouldn’t be collecting dust around dealership and 50k after 2 years .

[@andrejnaumovski8622]

@@dominicancash It handles better on the open road. 200kg less weight, sharper steering due to the much smaller steering ratio (11.8:1 on the Alfa vs 14.5:1 on the BMW), better chassis, overall better engagement with the car. You don't buy these to race other people on the street, you buy them to enjoy the experience.

[@bpp325]

AR QV reviews NEVER get old. Best saloon on EARTH. Thanx for the review. excellent job.👌👌

[@SuperMBARutgers2013]

Almost best. lol

[@thomasferrarojr.9772]

​@@SuperMBARutgers2013What's better?

[@johngriffiths3394]

Absolutely agree - I adore mine. What a machine!

[@jamesaron1967]

@@thomasferrarojr.9772 The RS3 comes to mind but haven't driven either to give a direct opinion. For me AWD is a must and any sport-oriented Audi would be a no brainer. If I lived in a place where there's no snow the QV would win hands down.

[@chamaldealwis9]

​@@thomasferrarojr.9772m5cs

[@almafino]

Oh and a thought about the headlight design of the 24 models: Indeed Maserati is playing with the three elements design on their cars but not especially on the headlights. However Alfa has this tradition: Apart from the Tonale check out the 159, Brera, 939 Spider and - much older - the Proteo Concept or the SZ Zagato ES30 from more than 30 years ago. Think it’s great Alfa sticks to that tradition 👍

[@lucasanto3086]

exactly

[@almafino]

Nonetheless I like the previous headlights very much and think they fit the Giulia extremely well! On the Stelvio I would definitely go for the 24 headlights, however on the Giulia they both look great, not too easy…

[@christianr772]

I concur. I bought a 23, mainly due to the upcoming headlight design@@almafino

[@allanfestejo8531]

I’m so glad you chose the QV over the black wing. It means more videos to look forward to. Great spec, Phil! Welcome back!

[@mr.2cents.846]

Welcome Back Kotter

[@Mihail_KM]

Glad to see the Alfa back! Also the 159 had a 3 ring headlights but that was not available in the US.

[@CollegeFootballNerds]

From one fellow QV owner to another. Welcome back 🥳

[@mr.2cents.846]

From a fellow who wish he had the Giulia. Welcome back.

[@fabiocene]

I have owned Audi's, BMW's, Porsche's but the Giulia Quadrifoglio was the best car I had ever owned.

[@autofanaticcars]

You no longer have it?

[@John_Forge]

Oh man I love that color. I just bought a 2018 Alfa Rosso QV. Keep the videos coming brotha.

[@DSB695]

This color is way better than the Alfa Rosso Great choice

[@autofanaticcars]

Yeah i like both but the metallics really enhance the shape of this car more this color is awesome

[@albroumand]

Welcome back to the Alfa world!!

[@headhuncho4837]

Good to see you back in the Alfa. I brought my Alfa QV only because of you. I now own a 2023 Alfa QV in Verde Montreal, 21 Stelvio, and an 21 ss 1le.

[@fullpotentialanakinskywalker]

I own a quadrifoglio and judt got it like a month ago and it's so fun to drive and so fast it's the best car to have. I love it alot and the race mode is just crazy. Truly a good car and good handling, and the looks is just beautiful as always. Thank you for making this video.

[@autofanaticcars]

Enjoy it

[@SlumRacing]

Just a heads up, if you dont order the exposed carbon roof on the qv anymore, they put a non carbon painted roof. Id rather deal with the imperfect weave for a lighter car. Also consider a different lowering spring than ST. Alfissimo has made some with higher spring rates that you may enjoy. He modelled them after the GTA springs. John 4c on the giulia foruns js making custom forged wheels for a decent price. The design of the stelvio qv 5 hole shrunk to 19 inches forged is a nice option. Consider doing ppf on the rear bumper, front fenders, side skirts. I did that on mine and didnt need to put mud flaps. It kept the car lines clean. I would beg you to consider the TFL x-pipe. Its better than straight pipe and the nasty centerline x pipe. The TFL x pipe give benefits of volume from straight pipe and pops on upshifts from stock. You can ask any muffler shop to replicate the tfl x pipe at a much cheaper cost.

[@rafaelsmit4080]

Brilliant car! Congratulations with this characterful Italian beauty! Btw the three headlights in the ‘24 model was introduced with the Sprint Zagato and Alfa Proteo which later turned into the spider/gtv. Then the 159/Brera/Spider had the 2x three head lights as well. So the 24 headlight design is very much Alfa Romeo. But I agree that the 23 design is beautiful as can be!

[@AlbertManiscalco]

The 3 lighting element theme they are running with lately is a nod to the SZ coupe based on the 75/Milano from back in the day

[@Earlofdavetona]

Hey Phil, congratulations and a very warm welcome back to where you belong. Annoying spec choices here in Europe as well, Alfa cut back on so much, I also wanted the std Alfa wheels but couldn’t get them. I hated the digital dash & clocks too, saw them on a Veloce and Stilantis clearly stole it out of a Peugeot. Looking forward to seeing the modification videos as you post them!!

[@SalvatoreMalena]

This Rosso Etna is absolute stunning! Awesome!

[@stanislas4990]

Great review of an outstanding car. Color is stunning, the design of the Giulia is timeless and so perfect, it's a dream car. By far the best sport sedan on the market.

[@johngriffiths3394]

That is one SUPERB car, delighted you are back in one. I just new the M3 wouldn't do it, not after one of these. Soulless in comparison. The new tech screens are fine in the Tonale, so would expect same in the Giulia - but the existing dials work perfectly well. It's the car that's the important thing, how it drives so brilliantly, not the size of the 'TVs'. Some muppets are more worried about that in their cars of course, not Alfisti!

[@VinceFung]

he's back in an alfa!!

[@mikeknight1783]

Hi great video as always,best choice alfa is back to give unlimited pleasure

[@pedromacd]

Awesome looking car. Congrats. The 3 headlights goes back to the 159, which is one of the best looking saloons made.

[@albroumand]

Alfa 159 and Brera/Spider which never were sold in US had 3 headlights in the front on each side. That’s what they went after with the new headlights.

[@edysoncolllado1190]

Just did a resonator delete on mine 2018 downshifts sounds amazing

[@timothybracken1728]

WELCOME BACK, I"M SO EXCITED !!!!

[@chasinglimits]

Too bad it took an M3 to realize you belong back in a QV! Looks stellar, I love mine in the sun and from looking at videos, they kinda look similar, curious to see your comparison video though showing both reds.

[@autofanaticcars]

Two reds are very different il do that video next week

[@itsvtrap]

So glad you’re back my friend.

[@charlespriesing1306]

What a beast of a car dream car right here ❤

[@jherylthomas2957]

I'm glad you got the car you really wanted in your life 😁

[@TheKrazyKat89]

10:10 The three lights are a throwback to the Alfa SZ. These headlights were first featured on the SWB Zagato, which is an Alfa-Zagato collab, just like the SZ was.

[@yooo711]

SWB Zagato reminds me of the 2uettottanta concept

[@merlin51h84]

Also the Alfa 159 Sedans , Breras and Spiders have the 3 lights as well but they didn’t make it to the States.

[@hajromc6271]

Beautiful color. 10/10 car

[@NoiserToo]

What a beautiful car!

[@raptor2126]

Can you test out the Alfissimo GTAM Corsa springs and Double H pipe? They seem like great mods, thanks!

[@trip66]

Here I am, with almost a similar spec QV sitting in my driveway, and watching a video about a car I look at every day and know everything about, yet I love seeing how other people appreciate just how special this car is! I think you are the only other person that has a red QV with the exposed carbon roof like mine (although mine is a 2021 and in the rosso competizione). I have family in western NC, and am going down in October for autumn! Can wait to take it down there! I don't have the carbon seats. I wish I had the carbon seats. That being said, the regular seats have amazing bolstering, and the heating in them during winter is far superior that the heated seats in my other car. The seats actually warm your lower back and not just your ass. Also, I noticed that the cars built with the carbon seats, you have more blank buttons on your temp control. Two of those blank buttons are the seat temp controls in mine. I also have the tecnico wheels, black calipers, the carbon mirror and V, and the green/white stitching everywhere. Its weird seeing plain stitching on the doors and dash, and the green/white on the seats only. I agree about the LCD, the analog gauges in this car are simple, but beautiful. When the light hits them, you can see the circles imprinted on them, and it looks like the painted lines in a nice watch! i don't think I've seen a video or even pictures on anyone's Giulia to show that off. Also, I got a story about my front lip splitter replacement, if anyone wants me to tell what happened.

[@autofanaticcars]

2021 was the last they offered deviate stitches on dash and doors they started axing so many options shortly afterwards. I had a 21 QV in Alfa Rosso with red lower dash and doors with red stitching it was nice but i now prefer my 2023 spec a bit more

[@bjjbrawler1]

Yes! Italian wins for feeling and performance! Love it, good luck with her.

[@autofficinaportafortuna]

Congrats! Just received delivery of my '23 QV with the similar specs but in Verde Montreal a few days ago. I was about to purchase a manual IMSA (Sebring) CT4V BW, but had a change of heart and went with the Giulia. Was also considering a manual M4 coupe and M2 but couldn't find one with the specs that I want within my price I'm willing to pay for. I'm very happy so far.

[@autofanaticcars]

Hope you enjoy it! Sounds like we both shopped the same cars the IMSA drives awesome but being priced same as Alfa it lacked all higher tech materials underneath etc. i still would have loved to get it for the manual but dealers wouldn’t budge on prices and there all sitting on their lots go figure

[@autofficinaportafortuna]

@@autofanaticcars Thank you! I really like the manual Sebring Blackwing but even with a $7K discount, I still don't think it's worth it. Especially, like you said, they're really not selling even though they're supposed to be listed to only 99.

[@pietervandermerwe7454]

Wow ,Beautiful .

[@Tbcp1313]

Love it! I will have this!

[@frumpd63]

Gorgeous spec! Agree about the diff being a cost cutting measure. The new headlights are cool but a bit busy.

[@autofanaticcars]

Agreed!

[@pereldh5741]

I don’t know.. Electronic diffs works great on flat tarmac. On bumpy tracks like Nurburgring variable diffs are LETHAL. Ask me how I know…

[@drjk7565]

@@autofanaticcars The facelift triple ring headlights ARE a part of Alfa Romeo's heritage. Think of the iconic SZ from the 1990s and the 159 sedan of the 2000s. I assume neither of them were sold in the U.S hence the confusion. On a different note, have you ever tried a Superformance GT40 replica? Unlike other companies which make obviously fake looking replicas, Superformance's cars are so authentic, they're eligible for official GT40 chassis registry alongside the originals from the 1960s. They also make replicas of Shelby Cobras including the rare Daytona coupe.

[@autofanaticcars]

I had a Superformance Cobra 427 in 2018 was not a huge fan and got rid of it immediately. I have driven them all including the GT40. I have the honor of working on a restoration of real 1967 Shelby Cobra 427 soon and may post videos on the channel if the client allows me to.

[@drjk7565]

@@autofanaticcars I see. I guess even though replicas offer an affordable alternative, there is a good reason the genuine models are still worth a fortune while replicas are relatively "dirt cheap".

[@christianr772]

Just picked mine up last night! What a beauty! Can tell in the 31 miles I put on it, that this is special!

[@autofanaticcars]

Nice 👍 what spec did you get

[@paulcarter3271]

Miner's a late 18 Rosso Competitzione and am equally happy with it. Best sports saloon built in 50 years 🍀💯🇮🇹🏁

[@rooneyw2208]

Love that color: I 100% agree I think this 2023 model is the one to get, gauges alone are enough to sway me. Weather here in GA is cooling down, late September and early October, hope you can get down here around then!

[@alexyurkovskyi8686]

Amazing color. My new favorite for AR. IMHO It looks great on both Lusso and performance (QV/Estrema) trims

[@moocw11]

Welcome back!!! Love your vids!!! Will you be adding spacers ? Convert to gtam???

[@ezioyang4253]

Congratulations 🎉🎉! I want to swap my 2019 Giulia QV for the 2024 model, especially the 100th-anniversary edition. The green one looks awesome.

[@autofanaticcars]

Go for it but on the 100yr cars you can not get the Sparco seats otherwise that might have made me wait for a 24 model

[@taylorkilgore3541]

We have the same car! Welcome back to Alfa🍀

[@dennysheldon1682]

Absolutely Beautiful! I'm so looking forward to all the upcoming content. I'm with you on the analog gauges as opposed to the LCD's. Still love my 2019 Giulia. Congrats brother!

[@autofanaticcars]

Much appreciated!

[@security_threat]

Hey! Are you going to Caffeine and Carburetors in CT next week?! Would be awesome to see a modern Alfa vs. the vintage ones

[@autofanaticcars]

Possibly but the event is so crowded i do not park my cars in the event too much risk with all children and carriages near the cars but il be up there

[@ghostridertom]

Your AR QV videos helped me decide to go 2024 for one, more daily supersedan mission so I do not mind them making it more refined and a bit less edgy. But still a real Alfa passion in there. The 3 light actually has an Alfa connection from the 80s and even earlier with such lights. With the mechanical LSD you are right about cost cutting but the mechanical could be great how it is more long term. With the dash I just did a leap of faith ;-) would prefer the traditional too. Coming May 2024 we will see.

[@raptor2126]

Welcome back, nice color but I personally prefer Alfa Rosso, it suits a more sporty spec, metallic color gives more of a luxury feel

[@carloslewis8448]

That color is PHENOMENAL !!!

[@pereldh5741]

Also in Europe its alcantara insert seats. No other option on Quadrifoglio. Great video! I’m on the hunt for a ’16-17 manual Q this coming year. Will prob upgrade it with the ’23 brake’d differential.

[@DuckMcDuckinson]

That color is so pretty in the sun. I weirdly like the green and white stitching on the seats the most 😂

[@jgk200]

Yes!! Glad to see you back in a Quad! ❤

[@deezznts]

Back to the Dark Side!!! Love that color!

[@ПетърПетров-л2з]

Love this car !

[@dariorivera2333]

You should keep it they are going to become collectors items .

[@ZCarshow]

So help me decide! Should I get 23” same as yours but it’s black.. I don’t like that Vulcano Black, to glitterish on sun. But I’m getting an offer for 71k brand new. Should I just do it? And wrap it?

[@erg1249]

The three front led lights are a homage to the alfa SZ

[@DevendraSalvi_1208]

Fantastic! And you are absolutely right, this car is such a joy in the NC mountain roads.

[@autofanaticcars]

Can’t wait to drive all my cars on great roads when we relocate south

[@jacksonueland]

Looks awesome, I hope one day to upgrade from my Ti Sport to a Quad! So true about Italian engineers and the digital dash lol

[@100898050]

MAN this is insane 🇮🇹👌

[@jeffreyboyd3392]

I live in Knoxville, if you are planning a drive on the Tail of the Dragon and would like to try some other great (even better) roads let me know....glad to help you plan the best possible drive in the TN, GA, NC area...I haveca 2021 QV.

[@autofanaticcars]

Send me an email lets talk

[@adcampo7601]

Thanks for the review. I've been following you for a while and you're clearly an Alfa fan. I'm surprised how much you didn't like the G80. Do you miss the manual trans? That's the main reason I won't get the QV.

[@autofanaticcars]

Having a bad manual transmission is honestly not worth having and the BMW gearbox shifter sucked even with mods I did. If a manual is a must the CT4V Blackwing is the best you can get and it drives incredible and has a real Tremec. If dealers were willing to discount I would have bought the CT4V that’s how good it drives and is fun every-time behind the wheel. I kinda still want one just for the Tremec

[@KUROSHURA]

Man, the way the wheels sit flush with the Body and the Stance is just perfect from the Factory. I remember your first Giulia QV videos and I was keen to get one until you got the BMW. Now that you’ve bought another one and pointed out its enhancements I’m fired up to get the 2023. Can you drop the link for the guys that can Retrofit the 2024 LED Lights into the 2023?

[@autofanaticcars]

Yeah my 2018 like all 18 sat 4x4 high it looked ridiculous but my 23 stock sits nice but im still lowering it a little. The guys retrofit lights are on IG

[@Gazza-zg2tr]

Welcome back Phill Great Colour.

[@ImranAkram-d5n]

Thanks for all the wonderful videos. I'm in the process of purchasing 2023 used Giulia QV. Where from do you recommend I get tire and wheel coverage.? Many thanks

[@autofanaticcars]

No idea i do not take tire and wheel coverage because they always screw you in NY for that because of our bad roads

[@ImranAkram-d5n]

:)🙂@@autofanaticcars

[@mr.2cents.846]

Man this is a special car. I can tell just by the footage. But I feel the late 2019 is a more raw experience.

[@orthodox1717]

My neighbor has the same car, same color. I polished and ceramic coated it. I love maintaining it for him. Awesome car!

[@autofanaticcars]

That is awesome!

[@simonBAGL]

Looks f**king stunning

[@analogguy5548]

Congratulations and good luck with new car. No doubt it’s a great looking car, especially in the color combination of your car. I’ll keep an eye out, hope to see one in person. Understatement of the year “Italians and LCD’s and HIGH TECH, it just doesn’t work”!!!! 100% agree, you need to own and drive a car that puts a smile on your face every time you drive it. Also agree, the BMW was too big - Alfa looks just right. Hope you get to do your road trip soon. Happy motoring 🤠

[@ImranAkram-d5n]

were you able to fit Continental DWS06 Plus on the same wheels/ rims as Pirelli p zero or did you get new wheels? Thx

[@autofanaticcars]

yes watch my video on that

[@ImranAkram-d5n]

Beautiful car. Did you drive in race mode during winters on Continental DWS06? Thanks so much

[@autofanaticcars]

Yes i did watch the video from last week

[@ImranAkram-d5n]

Oh yes. Thx:)@@autofanaticcars

[@ImranAkram-d5n]

Did you have to change the rims or the Continental DWS06 fit on the original rims? Thx

[@NOrlando952]

10:20 I think it’s a throw back to SZ and RZ

[@thijss1272]

You're right, it is

[@MB-zt9eo]

Do you know the difference of weight between Tech. Wheels and Yours. I bought it like yours because yours are much more beautiful and stylish. But how much heavier?

[@AP-cc1uw]

Hey did you ever get pics or video comparing your car to a Rosso Competizione? I’m looking at a ‘24 QV in Rosso GTA (Etna) in Canada. Carbonio trim so gold calipers, red leather and carbon trim.

[@autofanaticcars]

Not yet we will soon once weather clears up

[@Franzino]

From which year did Alfa change the suspension (tuning) of the Q4?

[@AC-QV23]

Just received a 23 QV and intend to use it as a daily driver. What winter tires would you recommend?

[@autofanaticcars]

These cars suck in the snow watch my older videos. Get a second set of wheels and throw on the Continental DWS06 Plus All Season and drive all winter but i don’t advise driving in bad snow or deep snow

[@AC-QV23]

Thanks, do you prefer these over pure winter tires, i.e. from Michelin? @@autofanaticcars

[@sydneyrush1638]

What camera are you using?

[@eDENTECHNOCYBERHUB]

YOUR BIGGEST KENYAN FAN RIGHT HERE, AS USUAL, 08/09/2023

[@kevinblank3844]

Love the paint ❤️

[@almafino]

Congrats, it’s so gorgeous! 1. The Alcantara inside is the same here in Europe, I can confirm that. Wrote it in my last comment (vid regarding the spec), too. It’s so disappointing to see so many options being not available anymore, just like red stitching or green/white stitching on the dash and doors. At the same time I see your car doesn‘t have the tinted windows in the back which are the only window to get meanwhile in Europe. 2. Ain‘t the diff the same as in the GTA models? 3. What about the new tail lights and Akrapovic exhaust?

[@autofanaticcars]

US cars don’t get tail lights or exhaust maybe in 24 but doubt it the option are so limited here

[@almafino]

Oh didn‘t know that, thx! You will make the best of it anyways. Looking forward to your next videos!

[@apterlizzi4283]

My spec exactly. I waited 15 months for mine. You chose well.

[@whussgudd]

Is the muffler delete kit louder with the clamps or welded? Or is it the same?

[@autofanaticcars]

Zero difference

[@samvandersteen7276]

How do you experience the comfort of the buckets on long drives Phil?

[@autofanaticcars]

Watch some of my older videos for me these are the best sport seats i ever had

[@quikgt]

Beautiful, congrats ‼️

[@HingleMacCringleberry]

HA I knew you'd be back in an Alfa lol. 4:24 😂The BMW was just a rebound car till you got back into another Alfa.

[@autofanaticcars]

The Blackwing was a really close second choice not many options in this category anymore

[@MrSchn3ll]

I was torn between a QV and my CT4 Blackwing, I ended up with BW for the manual. But sold it when my Carrera T arrived. Loved the car but part of me wonders if I would have kept the QV if I got that instead. It came down to lack of availability (couldn't find any QV's when I was deciding). I got my new BW for $70k OTD which was a smoking deal on new years eve last year, kept it 6 months and didn't lose much.

[@autofanaticcars]

The Blackwings i was looking at were IMSA editions and nobody was discounting them yet nobody is buying then as there still in inventory all over the country. I was really looking for a Porsche GTS new but impossible to find it seems

[@rlsedition]

@@autofanaticcars Yeah, our local Cadillac dealer has one each of the IMSA editions and they're still sitting on his lot. For me, the interiors colors/details and the exterior decals are a bit gaudy.

[@myrieke1]

my issue was the low rated tires , Did they do an all season?

[@autofanaticcars]

Nope same pzero corsa track tires

[@myrieke1]

ah ok thank you for the update @@autofanaticcars

[@CadexLaw]

Rosso Etna & Verde Montreal are indisputably the best colors you can get on a Giulia. Pure ecstasy.

[@greengenspoun7283]

On my 2019 i also have the Sparco seats and the green and white stitching, but mine is also stitched on the dashboard and doors in green and white.

[@autofanaticcars]

Yeah thats a nice touch Alfa stopped doing that 3 years ago for US cars and they also did away with red stitching and other options so ridiculous no idea what dummy in charge of these decisions

[@tomchinigo5014]

Simply beautiful. Enjoy it !!!

[@yamahazipfe]

I got the same car just a week ago. Nearly the same specs the only difference are the red brake calipers i got the grey ones. I had the same Issuses with the carbon roof, luckly my detailer can fix this while putting on the PPF. But one thing is really crazy the optinals things and Baseprice are way cheaper in the states. Here in Germany the Baseprice is 91500€, the Assistant Package cost 1750€, the Wheels 600€, the Carbon Roof 3999€, the Sparco Seats 4500€ but you have to take also option Leather and Alcantara for another 2500€ and for the Color its 3000€ more.

[@autofanaticcars]

Wow the inflation of the Euro at work

[@dwaynebolan2583]

How’s the handling compared to the G80?

[@autofanaticcars]

A G80 handling is amazing but just too predictable where as the Alfa or any other Italian car will try to kill you 😎

[@zacman1955]

Are you considering a Massimo turn from Squadra Tuning? I think it is good for around 50 to 70 more hp !

[@autofanaticcars]

Not anytime soon car has plenty of power for streets

[@josephselim04]

Car looks great, it really needs a nice set of wheels, A silver polished/brushed look on the red would look so perfect, trust me do something different👌

[@johngriffiths3394]

Some silver Technicos would work well. I'm looking for a set on my Alfa Rosso version in UK, though the grey 5-holes are still lovely. I wouldn't go 'aftermarket'. Just looks cheap.

[@fuhrerpolizei86]

Finally!! Been waiting for this long enough..good riddance to the M3.... excellent review of the MY23

[@autofanaticcars]

I do not miss the M3 at all!

[@fuhrerpolizei86]

Good man!

[@swift__]

As far as the used market goes, if you don’t get a lot of snow .. it’s the best value of car for your money. Imho of course. ( but your not getting a used rs3,g8x M car or even a M340 for the price you can get a good spec used AR… ) I’m not an expert but in my area that’s what I’ve found while looking for other car options. Exterior color looks incredible, paint correction n ceramic and it’ll look like you could jump in it.

[@Sav79rio]

How does it handle compared with 2018-2019? is it better or worse?

[@autofanaticcars]

Handling is awesome the springs and shock tuning are so much better and stiffer than the earlier cars which were way to soft and bouncy

[@Sav79rio]

@@autofanaticcars thanks that’s quite impressing. I was afraid the mechanical differential would be a step back, glad to hear it’s not.

[@autofanaticcars]

My car has the EDiff still the mechanical one is on 24 that comes at end of year. Really happy with suspension tuning out of the box

[@JonathanLopez-rf7qg]

I’m looking into getting a 2017 QV 34k miles scared of reliability :( how’s the reliability on these cars