My New Dust Extraction System - Installation and Demonstration

[@skip78rc]

That looks like an excellent system Keith. Nice work. Something I thought while watching, you could paint each side of the blast gates with red and green paint to make it more intuitive to see at a glance if they're open or closed. Just an idea that popped into my head whilst watching 👍

[@bradytalon2694]

Instablaster.

[@MaxMakerChannel]

That is exactly the setup that I have. Cyclone, shopvac, sewage pipes. Works really well and is cheap. I just don’t have blast gates. Ill add them in my next workshop.

[@alasdairmackenzie515]

Excellent, Keith! Really impressed with the sound insulation. This will make a huge difference to your workshop. Onwards and upwards!

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks

[@elizabethamizdail7939]

Excellent! And surprising at how quiet. Don't want neighbors to get grumpy. Thoroughly enjoy your videos.

[@ScreamingEagleFTW]

thats such a good idea to put the compressor,, and motor blower and dust bin all in one building of its own.

[@nlo114]

Nice! It is worth remembering that the cyclone needs a large enough air-flow to separate the dust efficiently. If you hold the nozzle face down to the bench, there is not enough air to operate the cyclone, and it will by-pass the square box and go into the suction collector-can.

[@MarkMcCluney]

The workshop looks like the Pompidou Centre now! Clearly back lot of thought and research has gone into this. Thanks for sharing all your efforts Keith - i know I haven't been taking dust extraction very seriously over the years but this has really inspired me to make a better effort. Thanks for looking out for my health mate! Excellent vid, thanks.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Haha yes it does! Thank you

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Less colourful though- maybe I should paint the pipes blue and green

[@MarkMcCluney]

Rag 'n' Bone Brown sounds like work but it might be fun.

[@HODYODesign]

I urge you to install a bug barrier for each fan if you don't want to see nasty invaders in your shed extension! Good job on the dust collection system considering the size of your workshop!

[@adms007]

Not only the ‘catometer’ but also blowing into the pipe to test air tightness and then testing suction on your face.....😂Absolutely brilliant! Brilliant system. 👍

[@marconeill9510]

I’d sheet that back wall on ur extension mate, the air circulation in there will blow insulation everywhere and it’s irritating. Love your work, cheers!

[@StrawbyteWorkshop]

Great video Keith. Food for thought and it has me stood in my workshop at 11 at night figuring out how to install a similar approach in my small workshop.

[@DOYLECLEVERLOBE1]

Very nice setup. My one bit of advice would be that two 45 degree turns are always better for airflow than a single 90 degree.

[@C4sp3r123]

Really good detailed explanation - thank you for taking the time to produce it. Another option for the power is to use remote controlled plugs which can be purchased cheaply on Amazon.

[@rganancial]

Forget decibels and scientific crap when you have a real world test using a cat. I love it!

[@RagnBoneBrown]

😸

[@narrowboatintention2996]

I knew a man once who did a study at University forthe idea of the British Standard Cat Unit. He actually researched how much room it took to swing a cat. No cats were harmed in the experiment. However it turns out most modern homes are smaller per room than a British Standard Cat Unit. Such is life.

[@edwardhallett9148]

QUAD 10-4's

[@SMee67]

Awesome job, mate. The outside addition is a brilliant idea, and deadens the noise considerably. I love having a clean shop, but cleaning up is time consuming. Vacuum systems helps to free up some of your time. Fantastic.

[@joelharris1335]

You certainly made the right choice by buying the Numatic dust extractor with the micro-filter! Numatic International is the best company making vacuums like that. Good one, mate!

[@handyjim]

I'm very impressed with all that, and that's a very good extractor and it's out of the way, expensive but it's your health that matters got me thinking now well done

[@colinaskey9777]

Hi Keith just watched your dust extraction system and you have done a good job,but you do have a busy workshop and you you use the space you have very efficiently,and it was a well made vidio,take care and stay healthy.

[@nickh2519]

I really like the free hose suspended from the ceiling for vacking your worktops, what a great idea. And those blast gates are really simple once you know how. Nice project, well executed. Almost a thousand quid though - eek!

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks! Yeah, eeek indeed! Need my ad revenue to pick up now! Haha

[@funfunstuie]

I think it would be a good idea to fashion a little hood for above in the inlet fan. If it's wet outside the fan will suck in water. A little "awning" above the fan would keep water off. This is one thing I liked about moving from the UK to the US. Dust extraction is so much cheaper here. My whole garage system cost around $300.

[@jamessiberrysaunders402]

Really nice setup! I’m sure some people will comment on how expensive and offer cheaper solutions but none will be as nice as your setup. The level of fine filtration, the size of the system and the low noise are amazing and cost money. I use a shop vac with a washable HEPA filter and a cyclone but the noise is so loud. Same with my compressor, I end up wearing hearing protection non-stop while in the shop. There can’t be enough said about the importance of protecting your hearing and lungs!

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks James. Yeah I agree. If I was doing woodwork once a week the noise thing wouldn't be so much of an issue but I'm trying to think about the future when I hope to be doing it more regularly!

[@ksp1278]

Agreed. I wasn't expecting it to be this good given the space constraints. Keith did a great job on this.

[@More-Space-In-Ear]

Wow what a difference...your workshop has gone through many changes since you first shared it, going by what you have now the only thing your want will be......more space! LOL great job Keith, well done and congratulations 👍🏼😊

[@RagnBoneBrown]

I've just acquired some more space too! More on that in the next vlog! Cheers

[@More-Space-In-Ear]

Rag 'n' Bone Brown awesome mate...look forward to the next issue 👍🏼😊

[@shifty277]

Great video and really good explanations and detail. Thanks.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thank you!

[@phildxyz]

Great set up. The wireless remote is a good idea as that would be quite a significant power drain to have running for any length of time.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks

[@janinelew2483]

I haven’t a clue as to how to do this myself, but it was very interesting to watch.

[@garlicbad]

Very good video, educative and useful to someone trying to build his own workshop(which is me).

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks!

[@markkoons7488]

There's a lot to be said for being quiet enough that the neighbors are only vaguely aware you're at work. Well done!

[@the_arcanum]

That's... until you switch the router on ^^

[@davidbrewer5329]

Excellent video like all the detail all the work you put in nice job I do think this is just the type of video should be done not just all wood work this is how we all grow with constructive information really god job looking forward to seeing the next video kind regards David

[@hyland1984]

Fantastic channel man. New sub. Ive being bingeing on your videos the last 2 wk. Its a breath of fresh air having guys like yourself use the metric system.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks !

[@WheresMyPencilUK]

Thanks for the shout out Keith, gotta love push fit pipes! Im very jealous of your extractor makes my £35 Titan look a little weedy! I also learn something regarding the classes of filters thanks; might try and vent the Titan outside as I do seem to get fine dust everywhere which isn’t good!

[@ksp1278]

Happy Wife Happy Life Health-wise, venting outside is the best solution. But The problem with venting outside is that you will be also venting out your warm air, which is a waste if you heat your workshop. It also will transmit your vacuum noise outside, which may annoy neighbours.

[@ksp1278]

Happy Wife Happy Life Health-wise, venting outside is the best solution. But The problem with venting outside is that you will be also venting out your warm air, which is a waste if you heat your workshop. It also will transmit your vacuum noise outside, which may annoy neighbours.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Charmers Matt, thanks for the ideas etc. Venting outside would probably be great if you can find a way to do it. The titan may be cheap but it's no slouch!

[@ksp1278]

Rag 'n' Bone Brown I have 2 Titans. They both have stronger suck than our house vacuum. The wet and dry one is very noisy. The other (with triple filtering) is relatively quiet. I don't plan to get rid of them, but plan to use alongside a bigger collector. I have some dyson parts that I plan to use to make cyclone pre-stages for the two vacs.

[@WheresMyPencilUK]

The Titan certainly sucks like a Bangkok er hoover.....

[@crjcannon]

Nice job Keith. If I was any good at woodwork and had a clue what I was doing I would use this system. Well explained, actually understood it. I can feel a bigger workshop coming on in the new year???? 🤣🤣🤣

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks! Hope so! But I think it'll be longer than a year....

[@adsb4187]

I don't even have a workshop but I find my self jellous!!!!! Great video. Great setup, nice job man. Thanks for another good video keep em coming!

[@jakematic]

Really nice setup, Keith. Planning something similar under my mobile saw station and this gave me some good ideas. Might use a plastic bin instead of building a wooden one after seeing your setup. Thanks.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thank you

[@edwardhallett9148]

Nicely planner and completed, all around! When I do mine, it will be a fame by frame copy of yours except some product substitutions (USA). And Great example of the making of a productive video. Worth every second.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks!

[@Alexcann1]

Well done sir. Love your attitude to getting stuf sorted!

[@winohank]

I like your set up a lot. This is not critic but what I would done differently. The external fans covers appear to have large openings, this may allow wasp to enter which is a problem in my area. I would run cyclone through hole in floor, then back into shed and ventilation system. Just think the tote being outside would make easy empty and less dust. Thanks for videos, I enjoy and look forward.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks! Good ideas to be fair 👍

[@colinaskey9777]

Hola Keith, another good vidio that was good viewing and well made,absolutely no need to keep making apologies all your stuff is good, keep knocking it out

[@tbayboater]

Nicely done. Might I suggest wrapping some bare copper wire around your pipes with the occasional screw fastening through the pipe as a means of grounding out the ductwork. These systems generate a lot of static electrical charge that poses a potential explosion hazard. Cheers Kevin

[@barryroberts6470]

Very nice set up, well it has to be at that price. I get my stuff from Axminster and Rutlands. I got my cyclone bucket from Rutlands, and i love it as well as one of my Vacs. Well Done again on your set up. Barry (Wirral)

[@richarddunn504]

Good vid Keith, I have the single motor version of that extractor, no HEPA but I planned to pipe the air outlet outside the workshop instead. Sending the nasty stuff outside. FYI, I have my extractors and fixed machines on those remote switches you can buy from maplins, just plug in and one remote for 4 machines. Yes they really do suck!👍🏻

[@doktagero4483]

those fan pulling in/out air in the shed will be effective in the summer time!

[@shaunevans5876]

Excellent video and explanation. Its given me a few good ideas or directions for when i do mine. Thanks for sharing.👍👍

[@blondiesimon]

Looks great. I would add limit switches to the blast gates that turn the vacuum on when you open a gate🤑😀

[@drrahman9883]

Someone who is so talented at building stuff should never need to hire an electrician for something so simple.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

I have zero interest in electrics

[@Jack-ws3os]

Thank You so much for this video! Am going to follow this for my dust collection!

[@ianvicedomini2648]

That's a decent workshop mate and I like the dust extraction system.. really well laid out.

[@chrisperry7963]

Very nice, well thought out.

[@davidking5842]

Excellent presentation, clear as a bell and so informative: thank you

[@SteveZodiac777]

Thanks for an interesting video - lots of practical ideas for what is an important aspect of woodworking!

[@radinsyah1574]

Great video and nice explanation about the various aspects. I’d recommend Dust Deputy Cyclones though. I’m using that now and hardly any dust in the vac.

[@achnamara]

Great look at your system, very much given me food for thought. One thing I don't understand is why you have gone to the expense if an M class filter? If the dust is being pumped outside into the extension why filter it at all, just collect it. Your workshop will be clear of dust ticking the health and safety box.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Two reasons: because I won't be here forever so the extractor may not be in the extension forever and I don't want dust exhausted in to the extension as it'll go over the insulation and make going in there to empty dust unpleasant

[@SouthSideChiTown]

I'd be willing to bet the only reason you got any dust in the vacuum at all is because the suction is so powerful that the Cyclone can't generate enough centrifugal force to keep the Dust Away from the intake. Great set-up, I'm jealous!

[@felixreali7101]

wow. i so wish I could do the same to my shed. i guess I'll have to save up for that dust extraction device. great video. thanks for sharing this :)

[@bighands69]

A good Nilfisk or Karcher vacuum can work really well with dust extraction for tools. With excellent airflows and PET filters. They can start at about £150.

[@RickSaffery]

I like your dust extraction setup. The quieter compressor and extractor are added bonuses. There's one thing that did stand out as a candidate for improvement. That's the intake and exhaust ventilation fans. Seems that they'd be exposed to precipitation, mostly rain. Perhaps a two part modification would mitigate that concern. The first part would be to pull the fans inside the extension a bit. The second part would be the addition of louvered vents on the exterior. The intake fan could use a rigid louver. The exhaust fan could use a self-closing louver commonly used on exhaust vents of clothes dryers.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

I've added vents - see vlog 2 video

[@RobertSmith-zn5zc]

Great video! And really nice work. I'm inspired by this to improve my dust extraction. Thanks so much for sharing your good work.

[@gregnorthover5400]

Just a suggestion, try venting or extending the the air intake and exhaust through the wall of your external shed which would reduce or remove the need for the little fans. Also the dust in the extractor is usually cause when the the suction is block or the air flow is block while changing between blast gates. This will suck the dust out of the cyclone collector. All in all a good video... thanks

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks for the info. The fans are actually needed to keep the extractor cool as it has overheated once when I used it and forgot to switch them on

[@barryarmstrong5232]

Awesome video Keith, you're one clever chap!

[@JakeThompson]

Very well done Kieth!! Looks nice and tidy.. 👍👍👌

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks Jake

[@robsonwoodwork]

Great project mate, hope it works out really well for you sir! 👍

[@Yet1moreUtuber]

Well done Mr. Brown, well done indeed.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks

[@robhassett8119]

Good info

[@markoduvall]

Your exterior fan placement makes sense, cross circulation. It will keep things cool. I would've made the cyclone the centerpiece in your extension. You're going to be accessing it much more than either of the other pieces. Not a huge deal, it will just take a little extra time.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks Mark

[@simplifygardening]

control was wired back to front, off on the remote was on lol great build though looking to do my own

[@k1ckcyph3r16]

Nice, simple and effective...very good system

[@xsbxsbxsb]

Very good, easy to follow explanations!

[@garenne0169]

Amazing work, this a realy improvement of your workshop. I don’t think the blue barrel was to thick to resist pressure. Then the box is a better choice. 👍🏻

[@MrCraigge]

I have one of those blue barrels - it is very good (and relatively compact), but I've managed to collapse it twice in the last six months for not having a pressure release valve... :-( I've been looking at metal alternatives, but the plastic box could be an option.

[@greenchew1]

Hi Kieth, also run twin 12oow vacuum from Axminster but mine is inside my small shop, however the exhaust air from the vacuum does warm the shed up on a winters day

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Nice! I've not noticed any dust exhausted near the machine yet so it seems to run super clean 👍

[@crossgrainwoodproductsltd9230]

I've watched this video several times to get ideas for my shop. I do hope it is insulated though. By the looks of the gap around your shop door, you'll never be able to keep heat in. Have you thought of a regular door for better closer and security? I was inspired by this outdoor addition for your dust collector and compressor, that I have drawn up a design for an outdoor "closet" if you will to the back side of the shop. I'll be able to stand in it if necessary. I have a type of compressor that is whisper quiet but it will go in there with the 2hp dust collector for space saving reasons. I do wish though they made a dust extractor here in the states that are as compact as yours. I'm even installing a couple of small computer fans as you did only they will be solar powered. I'll try to soundproof it to keep to the noise at a minimum and every seam will then be filled with a rock hard mastic so rodents can't enter and make a mess of the insulation. In the future when supplies and funds allow I will be building a lengthways extension to the "closet", keeping the wall to separate the two spaces, for dry wood storage. My shop is 16' long and I'm making the closet just below 6' so the wood storage will go the rest of the length of the back shop wall. It is hard not to worry about the cost of a good extractor system, but isn't the health of your lungs worth it? I would still wear a dust mask even with dust extraction. Thanks for the tips!!.

[@Gus-cg9yp]

Hi, great job !! you have an amazing workshop now. thanks for the video. Gus

[@Hubbmade]

Still seems to have a lot of suction even that far away. I wonder if there are any leaks or weak points. The cyclone box or those blast gates for instance where you lose suction power. Good job on the build and video.

[@davidbuchan2224]

brilliant. Axminster should include a cat. Pleasure to watch as always.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thank you

[@RiaanOliver]

Cool thanks mate, most of the dust extraction videos main cover 100mm ducting. It’s good to see 40mm system working well. At the moment I am setting everything up using a 62mm 21/2” ducting, but did not think it was going to be good enough. You showed me it should be ok. Thanks amigo

[@pat1walls]

Great project - I was seriously looking at installing fixed pipes for dust collection, great to see it in action, and also all the adaptors - not sure I could stretch to the vac though!

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Yeah it was a stretch for me too! But figured it was a good investment

[@pat1walls]

Rag 'n' Bone Brown Did you consider about using 2" plastic waste pipe, available from plumber suppliers, appreciate not from Screwfix. Just wondering if you would get any blockages in 1 1/2 pipe. I'm using larger Triton vacuum from Screwfix currently, so don't have much spare suction to lose - just thought larger pipe would provide less resistance to air flow - Pat

[@RagnBoneBrown]

I didn't but it's probably an excellent idea. Like you say, less resistance!

[@petercurtis9297]

Great tidy job and a huge help to me.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks

[@onetruebob_tj]

Thanks. Great setup. Outside my price range but gave me some good ideas

[@newusername23]

Brilliant. Well done. Very well thought out

[@MrBez007]

you have a great machine there. iv got a twenty five year old model with 3 motors, can have 1,2 or all running and its still going strong. its Very loud though.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Sounds like a beast of a machine!

[@madproductions1234]

At 17:50 you should have a numatic HEPA flow bags in it do it doesn't plug up the filter as quick. You'll have better suction this way

[@leeknivek]

if you hardpipe that extractor where the pipe will be semi-permanent (inside of the extension at the least) you will significantly reduce resistance from that flex hose and thus improve performance. if possible, flip the cyclone around so the horizontal tie in faces the extractor to keep the length as short as possible, and use 45 degree fittings rather than 90's. you can use a single 90 to pass through into the main shed. i install air ducts for a living - trust me, this will be money well spent. we do not even use flex pipe on exhaust or return (sucking) systems, only on supply (blowing) systems because it limits airflow too much.

[@Badgerworkshop]

Looks a great setup. You have inspired me to sort mine out.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Are you still moving soon?

[@Badgerworkshop]

At some point in the next year. No idea where yet

[@robbieroche6779]

amazing finish wow ull move in there id love it fair play bud great job

[@frankiesalmon7545]

Legendary video and setup. Well done

[@stuartfisher5171]

Nice one Keith, your explanation was A+............electrics baffle me too.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks!

[@lennyrossa834]

You need a static discharge on that pvc pipe for safety, woodworker friend did all his, its a rare thing,but a fire can happen other wise.very easy to do. But great work mate.

[@f1rstclass596]

Very awesome and impressive.

[@alexepvppm]

Very nice! Congrats for the excelent upgrades!

[@philtebble4390]

Great job mate 👍

[@georgeoldridge]

Really good video and excellent choices but since the extractor is in the shed extension which is where the air is expelled why did you need a Heppa filter.

[@raysmith1992]

I will be using some of your ideas as I have built a small shed extension similar to yours, I will probably use a Record extractor as they are cheaper and filter down 0.5 micron

[@ruly4000]

Great video. for the cabinet airflow, it may have been better to have one fan at the bottom and one fan at the top. This way you make sure that the airflow is optimized. Otherwise, you may end up with fresh air at the top but still warm air at the bottom. My 2 cents...

[@GaryThomsonJoinery]

Thank you for sharing your video, I did my system a few months back and put a KZbin video on it, suction is the key for a good system. Well done 👍Subscribing 😄

[@darrinpatterson2764]

As Long as it does what you need it's good but some suggestions for improvement are as follows Use 68mm down water pipe ( tool station ) very cheap you can buy bends and tee connectors and 3 times more volume within the pipe . Another very common error is to vent the air outside the room it is been sucked from this means the air is the room must be replaced via gaps in doors etc this can also affect the air flow

[@RagnBoneBrown]

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[@nelson7940]

from cape coral florida......great work.....

[@michaelevans1658]

Good job Keith took alot of thinking out and work. I have the orazio compressor nice quite compressor to have.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks Michael! Yes I'm happy with it so far. Pretty poor build quality in places but at that price it cost I have no complaints

[@michaelevans1658]

I agree Keith a couple of screws the threads are stripped off on mine and i have not been anywhere near them. I read the manual and it states that the piston rings should be replaced after so many hours of use. So i E mailed the importer he replied spares are available readily{ which i doubt} and he knew nothing about the piston rings/seals so make of that what we will .Merry Christmas.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Haha... A Happy Christmas to you too!

[@ronyerke9250]

The fans probably aren't necessary, but they won't hurt. The ventilation holes alone should suffice. A hole in the extention's floor will allow more natural flow from thermal dynamic action. Window screen to stop most bugs might be a good addition, however. Did you install rain hoods? Since some of your blast gates are near your ceiling, you may want to change those. I once saw a man build triangular gates operated by short cords. If I can find it again, I'll edit this comment. Geeks Wood Shop has the video. The title is: Dust Collection Blast Gates. You might be inspired. I found a second, similar video. Made by Magnus posted a video titled: Blast Gates for the dust collection system - Made by Magnus.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

The fans are definitely necessary for the extractor as it overheats when they’re not turned on (found out the hard way!) possibly not for the compressor though. You lost me at the thermal dynamic action comment I’m afraid! Yes rain hoods have been installed. Blast gates on the ceiling are working fine (it’s not a high ceiling so easy to reach and out of the way!) thanks

[@OllyParryJones]

Great stuff, indeed! Did you also get a new microphone or camera? Audio seems to echo less, which is always an issue in a workshop.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

I did get a microphone recently, it's just a Rode VideoMic that sits on top of the camera. Thanks!

[@AliDymock]

You're a smart fellow. Well done indeed

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Not really, a lot of it was inspiration from others! Thanks though

[@sanfire00]

Nice system! I wonder if the humid/cold weather will eventually harm the machines, what do you think?

[@garystephenson9965]

Great work Keith,nice one!!

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks!

[@chemcody5119]

i was wondering if you were going to vent your addition or not. :) Looks like this system should serve you well!

[@RagnBoneBrown]

So far so good but time will tell!

[@rrddaatube]

Great video, really interesting. In this context though do you really need this additional filter? It makes perfect sense of the exhaust is going back into the shop, but in your case you're filtering the air pumped into the extension?

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks! Check the other comments as have answered that a few times. I'm also in a new workshop now