🔴 My NEW Leica M Camera! (NOT Recommended For Most Photographers) (Leica M262)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

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[@nickcr3919]

Hi Matt.M262 and M240 are exactly the same camera,with the same censor and the same processor.The main differences are that 262 doesn’t have video (so also doesn’t have live view and evf) and that 262 is made with aluminium and 240 is made with brass (that’s why 262 is lighter).MP 240 has also better buffer and sapphire glass.MP is a marketing think,but not only a marketing think.MP at general has a slightly better build quality.Overall MP 240 is a better camera because:1)Has better build quality 2)You can use MP 240 exactly as the M262 if you don’t add EVF,you don’t use video and you close the live view,but sometimes it is good to have the EVF option (with 90mm wide open or with 16mm and 21mm),it is good to have live view option (to check the exposure and the white balance before shoot).3)Has better buffer 4)Has sapphire glass 4)Has exactly the same battery (if you don’t use live view and evf last about the same). 5) I don’t know why and how but M240 color are better in my opinion (there is no logical explanation about this).

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, yes correct, I covered these points in the recent video series and blog post. I can’t answer the colours comment! I’ll have to compare my 262 to 240!

[@johnhoward2577]

As usual his conclusion is totally ridiculous. The advantages he claims are almost all disadvantages. Lack of evf and lack of frame selector are crazy.

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

I had an M262 a few years ago and it was great! I only sold it because we needed to have video as well, so bought a Sony A7iii, which is not as enjoyable to use for photography, but it does everything. Recently I bought a new Leica M10R and after less than 100 shots it malfunctioned, so I sent it back to leica under warranty for repair (a new main board or something). It took about 4 months. Now it’s perfect! Love the channel Matt 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks and thanks for sharing. Hopefully kind will be 4 months not 6. I’ll keep everyone updated.

[@julianhart3608]

Hey Matt. Great choice. I have my 262 since 2017. Still love it now . Hope you enjoy it as much as I do 👍

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Julian!

[@filibertkraxner305]

Same here 🙂

[@mvonwalter6927]

I bought an M262 last Autumn and it's been everything I wanted out of the M240, which I had previously owned, with all of the things that annoyed me remedied - weight, the gloss paint and that cold toned screen. The M262 also comes with the benefit of the quiet film like shutter. I've been so happy with the output.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great thanks! Yes agree to the weight and shutter etc.

[@charlesk323]

Thank you Matt, this is excellent. I have the M9 (early adopter) then the M10 a decade later. I sold the 10 when I thirsted after the H-blad X2D. So glad I kept the M9 for its colors and great B&W conversion. Leica did fix the sensor for free. Because of your videos on Voigtlanders I picked up a Bessa-T "101 kit" and separately, a 28 Color Skopar. I love them. When I go out, often it's the M9 and the Bessa with 100 B&W film. Looking forward to the book.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Charles and great stuff. I love my little Skopar.. so much I just bought the modern version with tab in M mount. It's super light and will be nice on my M262 and I can use the LTM one on film.

[@tomklein_photo]

Sometimes the best way is backwards 😉. I also went back to the M9 Monochrom when I felt that the more modern Ms are extremely powerful and versatile, but I need to work less on the files that the first Monochrom delivers compared to its later siblings. So I am happy that I never sold it and now got the chance to re-discover an old love 🙂!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes! The old cameras get cooler year by year as everything else gets more mainstream and normal

[@Hektormydog]

Matt, I was almost thinking you’d really surprise us and choose a monochrom. Seems to have everything you’d want; durable black chrome, no red dot and clean design, you shoot with B&W in mind, and the general file quality [in any of the model versions] is excellent. You’ve got your SL for color and shooting a monochrom comes as close as you can to the film experience in digital, with the advantage of it working so well with vintage lenses.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! That would be the obvious choice but my problem is I prefer my B&W files from RGB sensors (once preset added)

[@superkrell]

Thank you for showing the Leica Pocket Book 9th Edition in this video. I saw someone else using it in another video but never told me what title it was. I "like a" that...!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, no problem!

[@richardazar22]

Hi Matt, I loved my M262 and regretted selling it. Then a couple years later I bought an M10 and loved it as well. If I had a choice, I'd still go with the M10. It's just so much more versatile, if need be.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Richard, yes +1 for M10 as a 1 camera setup

[@DayumMarq]

I went down this rabbit hole as well, and ended up getting the MP240 in black paint instead of the 262. Felt like when I was looking, I was paying for less features with the 262 at the time they were more expensive than the MP240. the main draw was it was my first Leica camera, and I really wanted the black paint model as it was a gift of my choosing for graduation and knew I would never sell it, having the braising could show the wear throughout the years I had it.... looking back, was that stupid? lol maybe but I like the brassing enough to not regret it ha. Enjoy your new to you camera.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Nice! It's different when you brass it yourself I think. I love the look of the silver MP but I just know for street i'd prefer black. Pretty cameras!

[@stephenedmunds207]

Damn you matt!! i owned the m262 from 2017-2022 but sold it for logical reasons along with my small selection of lenses [ some pretty old] but recently looked back through my old pics and i wondered at the clarity and colour from my old m262 pics , so i looked on youtube and found your video and i want want it back !!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Haha sorry Stephen! Yes the colours definitely have something special!

[@arylgg]

Matt, your explanations of model differences are easy to understand, thanks. Leica has very many subtleties it's not easy to know them all. I've owned the M240 for many years, it continues to be one of my favorites. I can't really tell the difference in M240 images from more recent Leicas. They're all good.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Daryl, yes luckily all Leicas give nice images! I’ll do a complete M guide for digital on MrLeica.Com when I get a chance and finish this series of videos.

[@yorkshiremike5083]

I think you'd really like the MD 262. I've owned my MD 262 from new in 2016 and it complements an SL2S perfectly 👌

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Nice Mike! Yes either of these cameras complement the SL series cameras nicely, 100%

[@psychosaif]

I just bought one last week. My first leica. Love it so far. Can’t wait for your m262 presets

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Congrats! I love the weight and battery life. I’ll mention the presets in the blog newsletter if you get that - MrLeica.Com

[@NineVoltDigitalCinema]

Congrats on the new M! Fewer features, simple operations, that’s why my M10-D is my all-time favorite digital camera.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! Nice.. I did look for those too just to see what the cost was.

[@jamie.dop_]

Red Dot Cameras is my favourite store. Ivor and the team are legends and they genuinely have the best array of Leica kit I have seen in any Leica store or dealer. Good video Matt. Enjoy your new set up. J

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Cheers Jamie! (Are you THE Jamie that did some vids for them? I think they mentioned someone to me. Yes great guys!

[@Vagabond1031]

Perfect. Not many ppl talk bout M262. I've been shooting with it since it came out. I mostly do personal documentary projects with some travel editorial once in a long wile. Love the simplicity as you mentioned. In fact, that was a big reason I got it. No video, no bells and whistles. That said, I am still having hard time with top-down or low angle shots. Often missing shots due to framing which is why I"m thinking of selling my M262 (for $) to fund a Q3 with the tilt screen as my new do it all companion. What do you think? bad idea "downgrading" from M?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, don’t forget Ms with LV, use EVF in top down angle

[@jonasfloriani]

Have mine since launch! Love it! Very underrated! Only thing I would improve would be a faster continuous speed…

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great! I feel like they should have made an M10 version too! ..narrow body version

[@gvz1538]

I had a Typ 262!! It was my first digital M and the one I am most fond of (minimal "extras"). I shot it along side my film M-P. Wish I still had the Typ 262... Enjoy!!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! yes I like the minimal setup too.

[@zoltankaparthy9095]

Brilliant! Again. I am in with you on the 240 clan colors. I like the M9 but as I keep saying it is Kodachrome and I prefer the Agfachrome of the 240 clan. Plus that honking great battery in the 240. There is a lot of fanboy clatter about he M9's and they are great cameras but the 240 clan is wonderful for a lot of reasons. Thanks for reminding us.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Sandy!

[@donjagoe]

Just brilliant. Love learning from a real, accomplished photographer.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! Very kind

[@wilfredshum3703]

Nice video, Matt. My back-up camera is the M-E with a 28 mm Elmarit which is easy to carry for long trips.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Wilfred, nice!

[@mpw621]

Very nice Matt, I don't see to many m262's for sale via Ebay or other sites. I would keep the m240 for the EVF and sell the m10 as it gets very expensive to fix and wait time is long. Great insight as always !

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, I was lucky as Red Dot had 4 in stock, 3 still on their website.

[@brianengblad664]

Matt, you inspired me to immediately visit MPB to buy the Olympus optical viewfinder for my M240 - they had one left! Super interesting to hear about your brilliant thoughts behind the 262 purchase. To me the M240 was a 'cheap' way in to the M series and it took me another year to decide why Summilux 50 mm was the right choice for me and the camera. Still the learning curve is steep, collecting bits and bobs daily is was what gets me going. But I must admit that being the 'getting low' guy, the Olympus optical viewfinder will open up my perspective even more. Thx mate

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great, thanks for sharing Brian and happy I could help. The colours are great on the M262 but it's the same as the M240 so my new 262 presets coming soon will give the same look on your camera too.

[@martinw245]

I've found MPB camera body prices crazy. Much more expensive than you can find new.

[@taneltinnuri8985]

I love my m262. The camera you just take it for rangefinder focusing and output is totally enough for private use. I had M10 some time before but find m262 satisfy my needs

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks and great to see more love for the M262!

[@MrStevelitt]

Hi Matt, I wish I had bought the M262 instead of the M240. I went from film cameras via an Epson RD1, M8 and M9 (all CCD) to the M240 . I didn't think I wanted or needed live view or video and never really liked the ergonomics of the M240. The M262 would have made a lot more sense . I have M10 now and am happy:)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hey Steve! I was late to discover the M262 also. My M10 is still in Germany so we have a similar setup! (I posted another Fuji video tonight - X100V)

[@haymobachmaier]

My digital M for Life! I really love my M262! Thanks for the Video.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great you have one too! Thanks!

[@HenleyBailey]

Love the shutter sound, great camera. Definitely something to be said about the colours too, very Leica. Every Leica body is different enough that I kind of want one of each. I miss my M9, it just felt like a proper simple camera that got out of the way and made everything about the photo. I can imagine the M262 is similar to that, the M10/M11 feel like they're sliding slightly further away. The M10 series I think might be the best M, personally I reckon an M10-R BP would be my ideal only M and a decent balance between modern do everything and Leica simplicity with a decent shutter. :P

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Henley, well said, I think each have their pros and definitely room for a few haha. Agree the M10 series are the sweet spot. My fav is the M10-P

[@BrunoChalifour]

Hello Mike. Congratulations on your new toy/tool. Looks in pristine condition. Choosing an M262 over an M10 or 10P would definitely not be my first choice for the very reasons why I was reconciled with Leica and its digital cameras with the advent of the M10: same size as my M6 (done with the bulk of the M240), bigger buffer and faster processor (not having to wait when shooting several frames in a row and camera not freezing from time to time), and definitely better ISO sensitivity, getting closer to the competition and giving more flexibility. Now the only reason for me for an M240/262 would be the unique color rendition/sensor: softer, more “Leica” in a way than any other sensor, so… I do not understand having such a unique camera/sensor and modifying its color profile for more “pop”?!? Can you explain? Anyway best wishes for a summer of photographs!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Bruno! Yes the earlier sensors are more Leica for sure. The colours. Yes the M10 is better for most people. I’ll use my presets to add more pop to the files like I do for all Leicas.

[@Zetaphotography]

Thank you for another great review. I like color but right now I’m focusing on composition and seeing light. For that reason I picked up the Leica M Monochrom 246. Depending what I’m looking to do, either a 21mm VM f4 LTM, Zeiss 50mm F2, my newly to me Leica Summicron 50mm F2.8 or the amazing Portrait lens Voigtlander 90mm F2 APO. All look amazing in BW

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! Yes the Voigtlander is great. I have it

[@Borisvanderoost]

I still love my 262 despite all its flaws - colour-banding over ISO1600, no live-view for ultrawide and tele or to check for parallax when I need to precisely line things up... Sometimes I do wish I have all the modern features but that's also the fun of it.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great! I think I strangely like the limitations as you mention but I have my old SL when I need more features.

[@kenohagan1091]

The shutter sound is wonderful

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes! A student moved from his M11 to similar older Ms for better colours and sounds haha :)

[@joshhyyym]

That is a lot to give up to avoid brassing. I am supprised you don't rate the EVF higher since you often suggest using 90 and 135mm lenses. I am happy focusing a 90mm f/2.8 on my M7, but I haven't tried anything faster or longer, I suspect that the lack of an EVF (AND live view) would really slow down focusing with lenses with a shallow DOF. It turns out you address basically all of these points later on in the video, haha. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I probably would have kept the M240 instead, but I don't mind silver cameras.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Josh, the M240 LV is quite laggy so can be frustrating for me. Used to shoot the fastest glass on my M9 all day without issue so I need to train my Jedi skills once more :). ..that said the truth is I have the SL for all the quirky and fast lenses if needed. I'll likely cover that when I get chance.

[@joshhyyym]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom fair enough. I've never used an M240, I can imagine using a bad EVF would be horrible.

[@HeathHolden]

262 colours are splendid, had one for many years now.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes, noticeably better than new Leicas

[@chrisloomis1489]

Leica 262 looks like a nice alternative as I shoot the Leica MA and M3 , and I am now happy owner of SL3 Leica . Good video Matt.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Chris!

[@shy-guy5544]

Very nice video as usual. Congratulations on purchasing the M262. It is known for its excellent battery and colors.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thank you! Yes the battery life is nuts!

[@ezpoppy55]

Matt, as the viewer, it is my right to make the important points of your video my own rather than taking those of the creator😂! So my two take aways are: simplicity and “lack of features.” I’m 68. I started intentionally exploring photography as a freshman in high school at age 14. Long time photographer here. I did film from 1970 thru 2005, when I switched to digital for employment reasons. In the past year, I have pivoted back to film. My two primary cameras are my Polaroid I-2 and my Mamiya 6 MF. I also have a Toyo 4x5 field camera and an Olympus OM 1N. I do have a Canon 5DS R that I use for an on-going very specialized digital photo project I’ve been shooting since 2007. So digital is still an essential part of the mix. Why the pivot to film? Simplicity: There are fewer choices I have to make (or can make) when using film. I’ve found that to be a huge advantage when I’m out shooting. Less baggage to carry around, mentally speaking! The Canon is stuffed to the rafters with options and choices and menus and all manner of doo-hickies, geegaws, sliders, buttons, clickers… I use one very manual-based selection of controls (though at 68 I have conceded to auto focus). There are a couple of specialty items I use, but rarely (and I have to carry the camera manual around to remember how to select them!). The rest I NEVER use. Paid for them, haul them around, deal with all the clutter they create… but do not use them! For my project I need the resolution the camera affords as I make prints up to 8’ x 10’ so I deal with it. That “lack of features” my film cameras give me is actually FREEING, liberating, and such a joy. True, I do make fewer exposures shooting film than digital. My mega-GB cards will store far more images than a like number of rolls/sheets of film I’m willing to carry to equal it! But I’m ok with that. My success: failure rate is better with film than digital because I work differently. And I’m really good with that. And I have to wait to see my results. No chimping, no pixel peeping, no histogram gazing… Just photographing. Which is what I enjoy! And why I do it in the first place. (Did not get to finish, hence the Edit 😅) So. Simplicity and “lack of features” are my two main take aways, for ME, in your excellent video. Cheers and happy shooting, Matt!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! Yes I love simple cameras too (as you know). Great that you enjoy the same!

[@Odins.Valhall]

Hi Matt✌ Congratulations on your new old 262.👍 I'm sure it's a good choice for you and you'll be able to do your work properly and feel comfortable with it. I can understand that certain aspects also play a major role, including price and other things.👌 I'm no different, some slimmed-down stuff that you don't really need. Focus and various other unnecessary applications that overload the system like 60MP or something that you don't really need. .is not relevant for me either. At least the viewfinder is essential for me because I don't really get on with the display that the M 240 has, for example. Maybe to briefly check the picture I have just taken, normally I don't use it either because the surprise effect is more appealing to me 😉. Lg Anderl

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! Yes simple can be nice sometimes!

[@terryclair2914]

Congratulations Matt on the M 262 purchase! I look forward to seeing more upcoming images.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Terry! I'll try to get some M262 images posted to social media soon

[@patrickjclarke]

I thought you'd go with the M-D (Typ 262), but the 262 is much cheaper. And honestly, I would love the reduction of the M-D, but I just turn off Live View (Classic Metering) and no preview on my M240 and am happy. If I were to do it all over again, I'd probably get the M-D but I do like having Auto-ISO.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks yes the MDs are a bit pricey but very nice!

[@petere7396]

Great video as always Matt. Very informative with your unique take on all things Leica. I guess you can cover up the red dot with tape. Can you get the Leica script added post purchase anywhere?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! I’ve tried tape and I’m not feeling it. I’ve enquired about top plates too.. stay tuned.

[@gregpantelides1355]

Awesome, Matt! I hope you enjoy it!!!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Greg, it's almost an M9 ..but with CMOS :P :)

[@gregpantelides1355]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom, as I enjoy cropping square 24MP is nice! I love how it doesn’t have video. But my M9 does show frame lines while off. #M9Flex :-P

[@i.b.6691]

Thanks Matt. Some love for the 262, which sometimes feels like the forgotten Digital M. I've had mine for 8 years. I wanted a no-frills M that would be as close as possible to a film M. Think the 262 does the job. The one thing I find is that the exposure on Auto is pretty harsh. The smallest amount of bright light, it will expose for, leaving the JPEGs very dark. If you or anyone else has an advice on how to nail JPEGs on the 262, I'd be very grateful. Thanks for all the videos. Regards Indra Bhose

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Indra! I used auto to try it and generally got nice results. I would use it in difficult lighting. To fix your problem, in those circumstances point the camera down more, half press shutter to lock exposure, then take it. It works for me.

[@i.b.6691]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks for the reply Matt. Yes, I do the old dip and lock all the time. With RAW don't really need to but I'm so lazy getting to Lightroom that I try and get JPEGs. And a lot of bracketing goes on !!! All the best Indra

[@hizhaus]

I did not know about Red Dot in London. I'll be in town next week and it's a priority destination!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes, it's like the B&H of NYC. The first tourist attraction to visit :) I'll be teaching some days so I'll look out for you!

[@michaelcase8574]

Nice job, Matt. It always tempting to go for the most advanced equipment. Knowing how you work, and exactly what you need and going out to get it is rare. If I only had a first born to trade, I would love to have a fantastic Leica too LOL. How is the resale on Leicas these days? Probably pretty good. 70 to 80% maybe?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks and haha. Yes M's hold their value really well, especially older models. I made a profit when I sold my M8 years ago and they are worth even more now. My M240 seems to have been the same value for years.

[@SourPlanet]

Hey Matt. Thanks for another great video. I've heard the 262 has slightly different color science than the 240. Did you find that to be true?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! It should be identical as it’s the M240 and M-P sensor just with fewer features

[@HerzausGold333]

Hei Matt, again a great video thank you for the details when compairing the modells. I also have a MP 240 what I love to use. One Question, as far as I remember the MP 240 has a larger memory as 2GB like the M 242 vers. 1GB by the M 240 / M 262, what is also a intresting point when you want to have a bit more buffer memory wile shooting raw. Thank you again and keep up with your vids here, love them!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! I’ve had no buffer issues with M262 as no LV so not needed as much. Thanks for pointing out though

[@mgscheue]

Nice choice! And the Red Book is a great resource.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! Yes the book has ALL the info

[@ZenoWatson]

I wish you many a great photo with your new camera Matt.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Zeno, very kind!

[@dfiglide]

Great video Matt, you almost convinced me to get a Leica digital M, almost. But I`ll stick with my film M`s for now, maybe a black Barnack in the future. Money`s too tight to mention.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! Film is still king but for everyone else these are fun

[@ianroe1076]

This thing always massively trips me up when looking at camera listings because it looks almost exactly like the better-known 240 but not quite. Design wise I think I prefer the 262 to the 240, but my issue with black chrome is that it always subtly doesn't match black painted lenses. The Leica Pocket Book is excellent, I always use it to date lenses I buy according to their serial number.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Ian, yes true BP lenses match BP bodies better and +1 for the book!

[@Oculus729]

Great video. You answered a lot of my questions. Thanks. If you ever make it to Denver, Colorado look me up.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thank you and I'll do a pre comprehensive blog post on MrLeica.Com once I've got a few more videos out the way!

[@GeorgiosKalaydjian]

Dear Matt, I need you advise since you had a good experience in the viewfinder magnifier, is the “Light Lens Lab” 1.4 as good as the Leica’s one? Secondly, I do have the Olympus EVF and still facing difficulties in focusing for 50mm and longer focal length, will the Light Lens Lab will solve my problem? Will be waiting your feedback to decide either to buy it or not. Thank you in advance.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hello, I only use the LLL 1.4 now so that will answer your question. Yes it’s better (and fits ALL Ms which needing to purchase extra adapter ring for M10/11. You should be able to use EVF too, make sure you zoom in when use it and diopter set on the unit itself, +\-

[@GeorgiosKalaydjian]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thank you Matt for your clarification, but please what do you mean by “zoom in” do you mean click the focus peak button?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@GeorgiosKalaydjian On any M camera with LiveView, press the LV button then normally roll the top right thumbwheel to magnify the view, focus, half press the shutter to zoom out, recompose, shoot.

[@GeorgiosKalaydjian]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Many thanks again Matt, it is very clear, but when you use the LLL you can’t do this, right ? You will depend on the 1.4 magnification to focus, am I right? Apologies for keeping writing about this.

[@nickcr3919]

In my opinion for colours quality: M8>M9>M240>M10>M11.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Interesting. No the M8 was not good for me most of the time and M11 is too magneta (but can fix with editing)

[@gewglesux]

CONGRATS!!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thank you!!

[@David-my3uu]

Good luck - no more batteries being made for it (or any 240-series) as I understand it so it'll be turning into a paperweight in a few years unless you've got a couple extras just for thus one. Did you consider that?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks David, I have 3 batteries so far but no didn’t overthink it. Great point though.

[@michaelwhiles5282]

Most Interesting - fingers crossed this one isn't kidnapped by Leica for 12 months whilst they attempt to fix it 😀

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks and haha hopefully not!

[@stefan_hart_mann]

Well, I kept my fingers crossed that you won a lottery and went for the black paint R. 🤤

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Haha thanks! I fear it’s not over quite yet so stay tuned! ;)

[@RS-Amsterdam]

Nice camera indeed. What is the shuttercount ? And...was it important in the decision to buy this one ?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi Rob. You can’t get shutter count for many Leica so just need to go on appearance. Just look for a clean copy.

[@RS-Amsterdam]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom HAve you tried leica Sync for Mac and I believe there is also a way to get into a service menu whilst starting up the camera and there it can be found too.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@RS-Amsterdam I’ve not but most info online says it can’t be done. Cameras are made to go on and on now so I’m not worried.

[@KK-ol5ov]

Nice camera! I have the M246 and the battery on these last a long time. I do find I have to buy slower and smaller memory cards though.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, yes my battery is lasting ages and yes good tip about cards. I know it's the same for the M9 too.

[@annakell5245]

Ha didn’t see that coming, but I had that camera when it first came out. The time then it was sold as a kit with lens. I liked it until the M10 came along. Enjoy it.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! I didn't see it coming either.. the curve ball got me as I did more research! The M10 is better for most people as a one camera setup.

[@rexypoooo]

The 262 does sound like a M-P, I honestly can go without the LV and video on my 240 since I hardly ever use them.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hey Rex, yes I never used the video in all the years I’ve owned my 240 I think.

[@fatiherkoc8676]

Hi Matt. I have an M11 Monochrom. If I want a color Camera, what would you advice.? Thank you 🙏

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

If you enjoy your current setup perhaps the M11? If want older the M10R is said to have great colours. All previous models also work great too.

[@fatiherkoc8676]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks a lot Matt, it’s very kind of you to answer so soon… 🙏✌️

[@rd_rae]

Learned something with that choice, thx.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great thanks!

[@erichung9043]

Did you get extra batteries? Looks like Leica has dicontinued making the M240 battery. I couldnt find it anywhere in the States.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I have batteries already and I think yes 1 more included. They last so long you'll never need more that 2 I think.

[@tedbahas]

I looked at an m10 but the m11 won me over with the multi resolution and better screen. That being said I still shoot my mp240. There is a color thing that the 11 does not have. Leica spent a ton of time on the color science for the cmos sensor. People were freaked out about the switch from ccd on the m9 so they spent the time to get it as close as possible.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Nice, yes I like the idea of the M11P for weight/ look etc but agree colours better on the MP/262 etc

[@KeAiFu]

Yes, the Sony sensor, 61MP, is excellent - if you buy a A7RV, or a A7CR you can get the great sensor and a market leading AF system.... Panasonic AF is still limited in Leica cameras.

[@tedbahas]

@@KeAiFu this may be a surprise…but.. I didn’t buy the M11 for its market leading AF or to get the Panasonic or Sony shooting experience. Having the additional resolution allows me to carry less weight in longer lenses.

[@gewglesux]

That book is just like the Compendium! can it be purchased retail?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes apparently Leica stores stock the book too, not sure about online retailers.

[@gewglesux]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I found a place in the UK but they have to get back to me on shipping to the states... if it's too much then i'll look locally. I have a corporate Leica shop and a non corporate shop in NYC.. HOPEfully they'll sort me out.

[@johnkasianowicz6536]

Good luck with the 262!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks John!

[@akirsch76]

OK, it's outdated and irrelevant for photographers, but the Leica M262 does not support video recording compared to the M240. No one needs it with a rangefinder camera, and this function was removed from the M10. I heard once that the function was sacrificed because of the M10's size limitations. And I think the M9 is still bigger than the Film Ms, but maybe smaller than an M240. I never had one. That's why I waited some time until I bought my M10-P for a good price.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

The M10-P are nice for sure and suit most people better. Yes this is slimmer than M9 if I remember.

[@cryptobyt2403]

Leica user mostly i think: casuals with highest artistic level or photo artist. Both dont need spec. They usually need only dynamic range, color science and framing

[@cryptobyt2403]

Ask similiar question for film slr camera enthusiast, the answer will be similiar

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks..and the want to pick up the camera.. a huge plus for Leica!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes I enjoy my SLR film cameras too (Leica and non-Leica)(Nikon mostly)

[@kalkun22]

So.. is the color on this different from the m240? And if so, can you do a video about it? Other then that, great video and nice decision on camera :) Great to se something picket out that aren't the run of the mill.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! No same colour as M240 and M-P

[@BUSCAP]

Congrats!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Rich!

[@jbbufto]

Wich lens on it ???

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

New Thypoch Eureka 50 f2 - search to see that video

[@overland_adventure_nz]

Is the M262 the very last of the M9 sensor and just a modern M9?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

No, it came later, think of it like a M240

[@overland_adventure_nz]

Hi @@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I was told that it was 240 with the M9 sensor in it. I was looking at buying one when they were new and the salesman told me and I even saw some paperwork saying the same thing that it had a CCD sensor in it not the newer CMOS. So I’m now confused now. They missed out on a sale that day..

[@stuartmeador8993]

Hard to beat the M262... the M10 or M10R is more contemporary.... not sure if the M11 is a big jump ahead.....or even a little jump ahead.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Stuart! The main thing for the M11 is the weight advantage.

[@stuartmeador8993]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom well, you cost me some money... I was going to avoid Leicas and stick with only a Nikon Zf and little 24 -> 50 Z lens; but after spending several hours re-reading Thorston Overgaard's summary of the M11... I decided to ignore the nearly useless electronic shutter but will accept the other features and picked up a M11 Monochrom from Adorama Camera, NY. By the way... looked at Red Dot Camera after your recommendation and really enjoyed their broad selection....

[@말랑말랑멍몽이]

I always loved the fat body of m240 because I like mounting huge lenses, but I sort of hated the large 12mm red dot… M262 is just as fat, and has 10mm small red dot! Perfect!❤

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Ha thanks! I must admit I prefer "thinnies" but a lightweight fatty is the next best!

[@philmtx3fr]

Well you are right to say it s not fit everybody. This camera is more or less at the same price of the m240 but without an evo capability which one of the best argument to try and shoot with any lens and mainly télé in good condition … honestly I prefer my silver m240…

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

100% ..what I’ll share in other videos is I use the SL for those needs

[@Roman_4x5]

If Leica was reasonably priced, I would definitely buy it, but for the price difference it just doesn't make sense. Leica has build its name by its superior mechanical design. Digital Leica doesn't offer anything other than bragging rights.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes you can get nice images from cheaper cameras like the Lumix S5 but I like to use a camera that I want to pick up.

[@haakon_b]

I just stick to my old Nikons for less features. D800, D700, D4. You even get a red stripe. 😂

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

My pre-Leica setup was the D800+D700! The D700 always impressed me. Now I used my film Nikons instead. Love the FM3a/ FE2 etc

[@smartdoctorphysicist3095]

Hi I am glad you got your M262 but you are working and you must have save up money to get what ever you need. If you have not save up any money; you need to do more photo jobs. Save you money for a rained day.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks!

[@tim-peerwiederkehr6067]

What is this for a Model at 7:13 ?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Special edition, see the Red Dot website for full info.

[@justinstein2032]

The 262 was my very first M camera ever. It's been a brilliant camera and gone all over the world with me. The paired down feature set was exactly what attracted me to it.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Justin, yes I love the weight and simplicity

[@earvinquero2037]

I will recommend something better like the M11.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

The M11-P is very nice for sure!

[@earvinquero2037]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom The Monochrom.

[@GBO76]

In other words, Leica are for masochists, people willing to pay 2 or 3 times more for a camera which has basically nothing to offer but its archaism 😁. When you think about it, the whole "Leica experience" (at leasth the M experience) is in fact, just constraints. I personnally understand that appeal, but that's the whole marketing crap which really makes me think Leica is now just like Rolex. They are selling the same model over and over, with so little innovations they have to release one with black logo, one without logo, with text on the top..Just like Submariner's fans are doing. But at least Rolex are reliables. Leicas are not (your experience with your M10 does tell something).

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks and yes it's true, Leica see the gap in the market to offer less and charge more for the novelty. The one thing Leica does that no other brand has yet to manage is to make cameras that you just want to pick up and use . Nothing else comes close. (Maybe Hassy X2D for SL series users but for Ms there really is no competition).

[@calvinchann1996]

Matt, I don’t think the M9 is a slimmer body. That only started with the M10. The M9 is still a fat boy.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, it’s not, the M9 is slimmer than the M240. I used to own the M9. The M240(s) are the true fatties!

[@chriscard6544]

I keep my Leica III

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Nice! Film is still king :)

[@KeAiFu]

Crazy the development looking backwards. 80 years ago Leica was worldwide the leading camera, almost all photojounalist worked with Leice. Leica was small, flexible, fast - you could catch the right moment. In the new "Life magazine" founded 1936 were mostly pics taken with a Leica. 30 years later, Leica lost the technical leadership to japanese companies, like Pentax, Olympus, Canon and Nikon. Development to AF missed completly. Nowadays Leica is a luxury brand, close to a LV handbag. Professional photographers do not think of Leica, they take Sony and Canon, or Nikon. Very sad that some wrong management decisions changed the leading technical tool to an expensive toy.

[@BrunoChalifour]

I (seriously) doubt that most photographs in the new 1936 Life magazine were taken with Leicas. First there were also Contaxes and Rolleiflexes but most importantly, especially in the US photojournalists worked with 4”x5” (Graflexes) starting with the photograph of Hoover dam on the cover of the very first issue (by MBW). Where did you get your information? Now lots of photojournalists and even wedding photographers (not the majority, agreed, but check Magnum photographers for instance) work with M or SL cameras, it is not just a luxury item and in constant price they are not that much more expensive. Their cost, due to the way they are made, on a global market, has increased, point taken, but ut is more the difference in price with its competitors that have mostly exported their production to Asian countries (outside Japan).

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, I guess we should be thankful that they are still in business and making nice cameras for us to enjoy.

[@jls2975]

Sorry i hated M240 colors vs M10 or M8

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I did when I bought it (240) and coming from M9 but compared to modern sensors I now like them

[@SergejHabsburg]

Ви молодець

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[@nicolasletellier6162]

It makes me think my dream Camera would be a Q3 but with L mount instead of a fixed lens and a joystick in the back for the focus point. I tried range finder multiple times and I really don't like it.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes 100% not for everyone. The SL is so easy in comparison but these give an enjoyable analogue style experience.

[@nicolasletellier6162]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom True tried the SL quickly, but I had the Panasonic S1 (the same body) for years, and it was my most comfortable camera. But because of hands problem, I can't handle a big camera like that anymore. So a Q3 with L mount will give me a more modern experience with the choice of having Af lenses and easily adapting M lenses.

[@mjbxxv]

No

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

What were you hoping for?

[@martinw245]

Seems to me you just pay a ton of money for the name. More money less features.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes some people love less features. I think that’s the strength of Leica.

[@martinw245]

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom "Some love less features." Then buy a much cheaper camera (that isn't hyper expensive because of its name) with more features and don't bother with the features you don't need. 🙂

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@martinw245 if you ever try a Leica you’ll find you don’t want to try other cameras after that. It’s more than features.

[@martinw245]

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom But what's the objective? It's photography, generating a quality image. Much cheaper but high quality equipment from Nikon, Canon, Sony... provide exactly that, without the huge expense. I'm sure it's nice to have quality kit in your hands, but photography is "painting with light," what you describe is paying a huge premium for the feel and subjective aesthetic of the tool itself. It's personal choice, though, of course.

[@hkrehab]

Matt, I use to follow you because you inspired people who love using Leica. Now, unfortunately (to me), you become a Leica specialist telling people what the gears do for you. I started using Leica not too long ago (2006? Or so), from film to digital, from RD1 to M10 and using various lens from before world war to the asph. To me, the gears were about how comfortable made me and how I could approach my subjects... I am not an artist as I don't have the 'eyes' but still I tried to learn what others see, that why I followed you. Sadly, the videos you made lately made me feel you are just another Leica specialist, telling people what gears are good (for you). That's why I unsubscribed. Thanks for reading and I hope one day you can inspire me to follow you again. All the best😊

[@hkrehab]

BTW, I still have my M9, M10P but I won't be shy carrying the pocketable Sigma DP2s, just try to capture moments that I like. It's about learning to 'see' and make the capture. Equipment is not the first and most important thing, at least to me. Thanks for reading.

[@hkrehab]

Steve Huff, I use to follow, has been unsubscribed . Not because he switched to hifi, it's because he is focusing in gear rather than inspiring people. Sorry for the fuss and thanks for reading.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks and no problem at all. Most of my 450+ videos are made to try to give information about a camera or lens (or film) and then I include my photos to try to inspire people.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

..and I agree making art is the most important (that's why I converted my only bathroom to a darkroom and I have to walk to the gym to have a shower.. true story!) That said I know most viewers want to know how I make my photos so I make some videos like these. (It's actually one of my most popular videos so most people seem to want me for gear. It's tough to please 36K people but I try to mix it up now and again)

[@hkrehab]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks for reading and getting back, Matt. I'm sure you are one of the most devoted photographers I can find on KZbin and I look forward for you inspiration and I'm really hoping one day I will subscrib to your channel again. Cheers!

[@raybeaumont7670]

I like simple and I much prefer film to this digital shit. That's why I simply stick to my M2. Nuff said.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Ray! You know I love my film cameras too especially after converting my only bathroom to a darkroom.

[@davidellinsworth3299]

You turned up on a video about a digital camera to declare you hate digital?

[@raybeaumont7670]

@@davidellinsworth3299 If you can read, I never mentioned "hate". I merely stated that compared to film - digital is shit. Prove me wrong!

[@davidellinsworth3299]

@@raybeaumont7670 if you can read - I never said you were wrong.

[@raybeaumont7670]

@@davidellinsworth3299 You bore me!

[@patrickdoherty8701]

Hope you got a discount for that tiny dent on top plate 😉

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes they had 4 for sale so I picked the cheaper one with the mark as I buy them to use.

[@patrickdoherty8701]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom good boi , use not ornament 😀