My opinion of Cait Sith was changed in 10 seconds.

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Wiz Catches Lightning

Wiz Catches Lightning

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@theblindfoldedbirdwatcher570
@theblindfoldedbirdwatcher570 8 ай бұрын
5:40 Technically, Moogles started out as some sort of "cave bear" in FFIII. They're a koala with wings, according to Koichi Ishii, their designer. In FFVII's case, the Mog there is a very fat version of it. Cait Sith is also a reference to the Cait Sith (Stray Cat) enemy in FFVI, so it's a reference to both the Gaelic folklore cat and an FF enemy. Reeve is also important since he seems to function as the "good guy" person of the four heavenly generals of the emperor trope in FFVII. Despite being "untrustworthy", his role might be there to reference General Leo, imo- considering he helps the party a lot.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
I’m pinning this. Completely forgot about Moogles being in FF3. Haven’t played that game in some time. Good catch. Also, I appreciate the other tidbits. I knew about the Cait Sith enemy. They continue that trope in Octopath Traveler.
@thehevandragon
@thehevandragon 8 ай бұрын
They were even going to be in FF2 allegedly.
@Chelaxim
@Chelaxim 7 ай бұрын
​@thehevandragon Yes and they were replaced with beavers.
@BornFromEmbers
@BornFromEmbers 8 ай бұрын
Aerith: *Dies* Cait Sith: *Hits the Griddy*
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
😆
@empty_melodies
@empty_melodies 8 ай бұрын
I laughed way too hard at this.
@WINover
@WINover 10 ай бұрын
Cait Sith is in my opinion Reeve's inner wonder, he comes off as a serious but hopeful person, and Cait Sith is outlet the person he wishes he could be a fun loving goofy yet witty cat.
@DarkFrozenDepths
@DarkFrozenDepths 7 ай бұрын
Tbh, that was a very interesting concept. But I feel as if the execution didn't really deliver on it well enough since they waited til a spin-off to really get into Cait Sith/Reeve.... There's quite a lot of people that didn't play Dirge of Cerberus (in fact, I never got to finish it) so that meant there's a lot that can be considered "left out" in lieu of the spinoff/sequel.
@aeroga2383
@aeroga2383 8 ай бұрын
I actually really liked Cait when I discovered he was Reeve. I thought that was an interesting concept. And they made it even funnier in Rebirth when you realize his fursona is being funded by Shinra
@justaduck3615
@justaduck3615 8 ай бұрын
The best thing Shinra has ever done is give Reeve the funding to save the world with his remote controlled fursona.
@Chatrbuug
@Chatrbuug 7 ай бұрын
The ultimate question, though, is "what's up with the accent?"
@LoonyRaccoonsy
@LoonyRaccoonsy 7 ай бұрын
@@Chatrbuug Cait Sith's accent is actually Reeve's original accent. Reeve probably covered it up when he went corporate into Shinra. You can find a couple implied to be his parents in the Honeybee Inn which speak with the same accent. In the Japanese Cait talks in the Kansai dialect which is basically a rural accent or feels more like slang. It's apparently more obvious there. There's a scene where Reeva/Cait mixes the accents up and Reeve is stressed and talking to Heidigger and Scarlet about the Sister Ray and it's implied he speaks 'strangely' or with the accent and Cait Sith sharing the information to the group talks like Reeve without the accent which prompted the reveal.
@lavos333
@lavos333 7 ай бұрын
Back when I played FF7 the first time, I didn't really understand Cait Sith's character. Whether it was due to me being too young, or the translation kinda massacring several characterizations, I don't really know. But I started to really, REALLY like him after watching FF7 Abridged. During his rant about hating his job, his character finally clicked and my opinion of him went from apathy to real understanding and sympathizing.
@ElFreakinCid
@ElFreakinCid 7 ай бұрын
@@LoonyRaccoonsy It's literally made clear throughout all FF7 media that Cait Sith is sentient and has his own mind and voice. Reeve animates him, gives him orders and sees through his eyes. He does not remote-control him, he's not providing his voice, etc., otherwise there'd be these big stretches of time where Cait Sith is a lifeless doll.
@OhHeyMarc
@OhHeyMarc 8 ай бұрын
I always interpreted the Cait Sith dance after Aerith's death more of a reminder of the fortune he gave to Cloud at the Temple of the Ancients. "You will find what you're searching for, but you will lose something dear."
@buttersleopaldstoch5793
@buttersleopaldstoch5793 10 ай бұрын
Ironically Cait Sith is the strongest person in FF7 if you learn how to manipulate his slots ability. His instant kill limit kills all but 2 bosses .
@SCP01986
@SCP01986 8 ай бұрын
I know I used him to beat EMERALD WEAPON.
@DarkFrozenDepths
@DarkFrozenDepths 7 ай бұрын
Me: (gets Barret's ultimate weapon to do overflow damage so everything but Ruby Weapon goes down in 1 hit) Also me: Do what now?
@grin_of_grimmsnarl1333
@grin_of_grimmsnarl1333 7 ай бұрын
Almost correct. Both Vincent's Death Penalty and Barret's Missing Score final weapons can be broken in such a way that they break the damage calculation and literally OHKO ANYTHING in the game. Granted this takes a little more build up but it's not reliant upon chance/slot manipulation. Which makes Vincent and Barret more viable than Cait Sith.
@Vanaolla
@Vanaolla 7 ай бұрын
@@grin_of_grimmsnarl1333dumbass can’t kill ruby and barret can’t kill the enemy named Ying
@daveyjones8969
@daveyjones8969 6 ай бұрын
Yes, but beating them WITHOUT CHEATING is an actual accomplishment. Anyone can abuse a broken mechanic...that sounds weird. I don't condone the abuse of people who are mechanics by trade lol.
@skyfrostthunderrock
@skyfrostthunderrock Жыл бұрын
20yrs later, and that scene still pangs at my heart. but then realizing what CaitSith's dance really meant.. 😭 😭
@sh4d0wfl4re
@sh4d0wfl4re Жыл бұрын
Holy heck, I missed that he was attempting to scry Aerith’s fate in hopes to find a manner in which she could be saved
@keaklockin9739
@keaklockin9739 8 ай бұрын
when I heard that I started crying dude 😭
@54raynor
@54raynor 8 ай бұрын
From the moment he briefly cameoed in Remake, I knew that Cait Sith had the highest ceiling for a reimagined character. It is the equivalent of a future Star Wars show or movie making a badass out of Jar Jar Binks.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
Well said 😎
@Uber_GoobTube
@Uber_GoobTube 8 ай бұрын
You accomplished what was believed impossible. To provide content regarding Cait Sith that is both entertaining, and enlightening. Strange times indeed.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
We aim to please here 😗
@sideslick1024
@sideslick1024 8 ай бұрын
I cannot believe I never made the connection about his dance animation being him attempting to tell a fortune. That is legitimately brilliant, and I wish it was telegraphed just a bit more clearly back in the day.
@arecord86
@arecord86 Жыл бұрын
Nailed it. That tiny clip instantly made me want to use him in Rebirth. It’s going to be so good
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I’m thinking 😗
@zeroxeroFX
@zeroxeroFX 8 ай бұрын
I still hate him. 😂 I tried. I really did. All it took was his alone section.
@randy_colocho
@randy_colocho 11 ай бұрын
Cait Sith was always my favorite character. I always loved moogles and the fact that he rode around a chonky moogle made me like him even more.
@Cromeyellow66
@Cromeyellow66 8 ай бұрын
Wow, that's rare. I can respect that. I know it's a stuffed toy, but still, why does this moogle have giant fangs? Like, a carnivore moogle ready to tear you apart?
@flayncele
@flayncele 8 ай бұрын
same bro!! i didn't know people hated him lmao, when i first played ff7 he was the one member i always had in my party
@BackwardRocketStudios
@BackwardRocketStudios 8 ай бұрын
Late to the party, but ditto to that. I actually didn't like Red XIII or Vincent when I was younger, but loved Cait Sith. Nowadays... I'm still not crazy about Vincent, but I still love that doofy cat.
@slowpoke8585
@slowpoke8585 6 ай бұрын
Same! I like the idea of a magical toy moogle being controlled by this toy cat!
@xeroskillzxiv77
@xeroskillzxiv77 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, am I the only one that’s hyped for the Cait Sith/Barret dynamic? After playing remake, one of the first things I thought of when seeing Barret in HD is how cool it will be seeing Barret and Cait Sith interact and go at it. Dude hates Shinra, stupid doll works for Shinra. Hope they expand on it compaired to the original
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Good point here
@pEac3LOv30319
@pEac3LOv30319 Жыл бұрын
I would be very happy if Barrett called him “cat shit” at least once. It would definitely help with my disappointment about the official name pronunciation.
@TheAuron32
@TheAuron32 Жыл бұрын
definitely looking forward to that as Barret learns that Reeve is really on the side of the people, could be very interesting indeed.
@haaria83
@haaria83 7 ай бұрын
@@TheAuron32yea and its funny that some people dont realize that and people still shit on him.
@maxspecs
@maxspecs Жыл бұрын
He has a command devoted entirely to Dropkicking.
@rowanmorris2187
@rowanmorris2187 Жыл бұрын
I've been seemingly the only person on the internet who has been waiting with baited breath for combat footage of Cait Sith since the moment I finished ReMake. When i first played FF7 at a mates house Cait was my favourite character before I knew any of the story and bought my own copy.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you finally got your comeuppance 😎
@rowanmorris2187
@rowanmorris2187 Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning plus I'm so happy he's not on Red. I think it would detract from both of them.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
@@rowanmorris2187 agreed. The doubling down on the Mog doll was the move. It’s time for the pair to realize their potential.
@lethargicwizard
@lethargicwizard 8 ай бұрын
There are dozens of us 😂
@sinistersaint
@sinistersaint 6 ай бұрын
DOZENS!! we love our robokitty ❤
@kahdaj
@kahdaj 8 ай бұрын
Bro, your reading of Cait Sith's farewell animation to Aerith in the OG FF7 almost made me cry. I never thought of it that way, and now I can't stop thinking about Cait Sith's sadness and the futility of them trying to read Aerith's fortune as one last bit of hope. Man, that hits hard.
@teddythodo3302
@teddythodo3302 Жыл бұрын
I always sort of just liked Cait Sith. He was mysterious and his limit break was interesting .. even if I was too young to fully understand it… I also really love his theme. So jazzy, so chill. Really sounds like a casino type jam.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
I’m certainly excited to play him in Rebirth
@darshio8307
@darshio8307 8 ай бұрын
Why i loved about rebirth, eventhough i didn't like the final chapter, was his redemption, how he choses to talk to cloud and make personal apology to every party member, that gave him a lot of humanity tbh
@Facemelter4000
@Facemelter4000 8 ай бұрын
I liked him then and like him now, but "Cait Sith's best contribution to the party is his occasional silence," is a great slam!
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
Full transparency here: he’s looking like he’s going to be in my final party. I’m beyond excited to test him out
@Facemelter4000
@Facemelter4000 8 ай бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning the in-game combat is bananas, I can't wait to do that synergy move!
@lucbauer
@lucbauer Жыл бұрын
To be fair, I almost dropped tears when Cait Sith sacrificed itself in the Temple of the Ancients.
@Kaptime
@Kaptime 10 ай бұрын
I would've taken a second intermission DLC where we play as Reeve/CS in the run-up to platefall but I get that Yuffie is infinitely more marketable as an anime girl.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 10 ай бұрын
Good point. It made more sense for Yuffie too because you can technically get her first thing after Midgar. But as we can see with these trailers and sneak peaks, she didn’t have her battle kit fully explored, so it would have probably been the same for Cait Sith
@Kaptime
@Kaptime 10 ай бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning Yeah, I can't wait to spend 100 hours mastering all the weapons etc. I'm most looking forward to how much better all the characters are, like the Yuffie DLC alone does a better job of making people like her than anything in the past 25 years. Can't wait to fall in love with Cait Sith now lol.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 10 ай бұрын
@@Kaptime completely agreed 😂
@Kaptime
@Kaptime 8 ай бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning In a follow-up, yes he did get a major glow-up. He was far more likable this time around and interestingly they changed his fortunes + he also doesn't give one after the ending events of the game.
@Mezmero
@Mezmero 11 ай бұрын
For everyone obsessing over the pronunciation of Cait Sith, no one’s asking real important questions about his moogle monster mount. Does it have a name? Does it have hopes and dreams? Does it have autonomy? The fact that Reeve’s cat bot commands it with a megaphone suggests that it does.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 10 ай бұрын
I’m glad someone is asking the right questions here 😎
@Timothy1395
@Timothy1395 8 ай бұрын
It does. It’s called Mog. I believe it is just basically a combat mech for Cait Sith though cause you can notice whenever he’s atop it in Rebirth and moves it moves the same direction.
@daveyjones8969
@daveyjones8969 6 ай бұрын
​@@Timothy1395The whole thing is a robot dude, cat and all lol.
@Timothy1395
@Timothy1395 6 ай бұрын
@@daveyjones8969 A mech is a robot. And I wasn’t saying Mog is a mech I was saying the way it works is similar to one.
@secretgardenia
@secretgardenia Жыл бұрын
I used to think when I was Little the cat was named Cait and the Mog Doll was Sith XD Now in the Rebirth he is giving studio Ghibli and im alllll here for it baby
@Nigel222
@Nigel222 Жыл бұрын
I trust them to make him much better in the remake. Everyone other party member has been perfect so far.
@JhettJones
@JhettJones 8 ай бұрын
Yes, I did know that. Even as a child, my main party included Cait Sith because he had the most MP and the most materia slots for magic. Giant ball of HP and MP with Cure3 and Ultima.
@TheDigitalDecade
@TheDigitalDecade Жыл бұрын
Wish I had made my Cait Sith video 2 years ago… I’ve actually always really liked Cait Sith.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
There’s still time 😉
@zeroanonymity9736
@zeroanonymity9736 8 ай бұрын
Look man, I grew up with FF7 and as a small 4 year old the funny mascot creature with a cute cat on his back and a wildly risky and strange set of Limit Breaks. I loved this weird little guy and that love has persisted through my twenties.
@TheAuron32
@TheAuron32 Жыл бұрын
Holy crap i have GOT to use him, the dance leading to a belly flop looks so funny and given his size, PAINFUL, the energy beam is the cherry on top for me.
@UnclassicalMusic
@UnclassicalMusic Жыл бұрын
I just think he's neat.
@literalghost
@literalghost 6 ай бұрын
So I've had the theory for several years now that Reeve is actually a descendant of the Cetra and isn't aware/was right under Shinra's nose and they didn't realize either, and my reasoning for this is exactly because of Cait Sith and Reeve's ability to 'inspire' him into being. My reasoning behind this is that the only other place where we see any creature at all LIKE Cait Sith is in the Temple of the Ancients, the very place he sacrifices himself. The Temple is guarded by these ancient sentries with bodies that should be inanimate, but have their own sense of will and personality like Cait Sith has. If the sentries guarding the Temple were brought into being by the same magic that Reeve uses for his funny little fursona OC, how did this middle aged desk jockey learn this obscure, ancient magic?
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 6 ай бұрын
That was super cool to read and I appreciate you sharing it!
@analysissel
@analysissel 11 ай бұрын
Hah! This is amazing! As someone who got into FF7- no, Final Fantasy in general all because of 7 Remake (and I now am planning to play 9 and 10, both of which I have in my steam library waiting) I have grown a deep love for this world and its characters that can be done justice moreso than ever before. It's saddening to hear that this goofy guy was such a total writeoff in the original game. But with how Remake has been building up Reeve's character, and the Remake/Rebirth team's work on literally everything else, I am excited for Cait Sithe- I'm excited for all of it!
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 11 ай бұрын
I’m glad to hear all of that! I’m also excited for you to try out 9 and 10 for the first time. 9 is my all time favorite 😎
@devon9374
@devon9374 9 ай бұрын
Welcome to the FF world! FF9 is amazing, it was my first and favorite as a kid. Really captures the “fantasy” aspect of the series pretty well. Excited for rebirth! This may be the greatest remake/video game trilogy ever. Looking really promising. What they did with the character dynamics and relationships is really amazing. And the combat! My goodness, I can’t wait to play with Tifa again. Her synergy attacks with Cait look insane
@udryx
@udryx Жыл бұрын
Loved this! Awesome work. (I've always loved Cait Sith) I always made him my enemy skill wielder.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Thanks! He’s looking mighty exciting 😗
@georgielockhart6686
@georgielockhart6686 8 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree. I was 10 when the og FF7 came out, and Cait Sith was always just there. With the advent of voice acting, I really got liked him in Dirge of Cerberus, but Square Enix did amazing with him in Rebirth. I love his voice, accent, and cuteness, and I like that he primarily functions without the cumbersome moogle, but to be honest the moogle is even more likable. He has been in my party since I got him.
@koreanelvis
@koreanelvis 6 ай бұрын
“Rejected character of Chuck E Cheese…”, that cracked me up!!! Thanks for the smile today!!!
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed that 😎
@blairblue6769
@blairblue6769 7 ай бұрын
cait sith is my unironic favorite final fantasy character of all time so im very glad to see a relatively longform video on him
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 7 ай бұрын
Expect another one soon about his design lineage and battle mechanics 😉
@blairblue6769
@blairblue6769 7 ай бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning this genuinely made me so happy thank you so much😭😭😭
@BANKSREGIME
@BANKSREGIME Жыл бұрын
Oh he's very fun to use in the original Especially when You use Game Over on Emerald and Ruby Weapon. And Insta Kill them
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Well yeah if you can figure out how the 1/256 red flag rng works
@BANKSREGIME
@BANKSREGIME Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning he is actually pretty strong if you give him a chance regardless, Him and Yuffie are Really good and prob the strongest characters in the entire game other than Cloud and arguably Tifa.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
@@BANKSREGIME looking at stats he has third best MP (tied with Vincent for 3rd) and his spirit is up there as well. Cloud seems to inch him out at every opportunity along with other characters in some skills. I just could not play him in the original. Just didn’t do it for me. I’m looking forward to reborn Cait Sith however.
@dukey03
@dukey03 8 ай бұрын
I’ve always pronounced his name as: Cat Shit, because the ONLY time I’ve ever used him; he wiped my party with his shitty limit break hahaha
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
That sounds about par for the course 😆
@BoomDriveProductions
@BoomDriveProductions 7 ай бұрын
This video has 2009 energy. It’s my favorite piece of internet content to come out in the past 4 years.
@Puzzles-Pins
@Puzzles-Pins 8 ай бұрын
I always assumed Cait Sith was an autonomous doll Reeve could speak through that mostly recieved orders and transmitted data, not a remote controlled puppet. But yeah, loving Rebirth. Not perfect, but seems like they're able to explore things in more depth than before. Only like halfway through it but so far it feels true to the original vision while adding enough of a twist to make it feel fresh.
@ElFreakinCid
@ElFreakinCid 7 ай бұрын
Reeve doesn't speak through him either. He SEES through him.
@r3gret2079
@r3gret2079 8 ай бұрын
Mever used him in the OG, ever. Hated his kit. So in Rebirth I wasn't hyped for him at all, but when I got him, holy shittin shit. That cat is friggin broken as hell! I absolutely love him now. His basic attack staggers more than the crowd at a Lynyrd Skynyrd show. And his new kit is absolutely incredible. Get a 4th party member, the suuuuper punch in "fortune teller" the cool dice, and of course the fact that he can build up stagger faster than you can fart. They made a nobody into HIM.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
Excellently said here. I mega magic box’d me a black hole yesterday for the first time, and loved it
@justhaku9240
@justhaku9240 7 ай бұрын
12:11 looking back its hilarious that they did EXACTLY that, only actually playable in the flashback and you get 1 fight in a hard mode simulator thats it
@richardlonigro4178
@richardlonigro4178 Жыл бұрын
You’re funny 😂 cool vid I’m excited for cait sith in rebirth he looks awesome.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard. Me too 😎
@bianca31991
@bianca31991 8 ай бұрын
I was expecting to be hyped about seeing Cloud, Tifa, and Aerith again the most...but somehow Rebirth had me enthralled every time Cait Sith and Nanaki were on the screen. For Nanaki that was particularly the case after the funny "reveal" of his in Rebirth.
@solipsisme8472
@solipsisme8472 10 ай бұрын
I'll come back to that video when our hype gets shattered
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 10 ай бұрын
@solipsisme8472 Which video??
@wiffmastermase
@wiffmastermase 5 ай бұрын
Cait Sith is the comedic humor of the party. The accent, the charm, the attacks and the visual angles make having him as an active party member a... party. xD
@whatwhat98
@whatwhat98 8 ай бұрын
I completely forgot about hope. Thanks for reminding me of him. Now I shall proceed to forget about him again. As well as the game he is from.
@dukey03
@dukey03 8 ай бұрын
FF9’s moogles were top TIER! Also; I don’t think FF7 knows what moogles look like. 7 has always had the ugliest moogles, and Rebirth is no exception. I loved that FF16 went back to the FF9-style design. I also liked FFTA and 12’s moogles despite how different they were to the rest of the series
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
Based Moogle appreciator ^ To lend some credit to the design of ff7 Moogles (never thought I would be doing this), I think they’re directly inspired by the ff3 Moogles, which were supposed to be small koala bear like critters according to koichi ishii (allegedly). But yeah FF9 > Nektar the Bold > FF12/FFTA > everything else
@dukey03
@dukey03 8 ай бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning ooo! Looking forward to meeting the moogles in FF3. I wanna see FF bring the beavers from FF2 back hahahha. Also; great video dude! I always thought Cait Sith was just dry humping the air when Aeris died, but knowing he’s trying to tell her future made it sad af. I’m also not sure; is Cait Sith a monster being controlled via Reeve and the crown; or was Cait Sith created by Reeve?
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
@@dukey03 😆 Thanks Dukey! He seems to be a biological robot, which is a term I’m still exploring. I say this because he can get poisoned. There’s a loose universal law system in ff7. For example, Hell House (writing a college dissertation on that son of a gun) follows the same rules, whereas other robots don’t.
@MazingerDestro
@MazingerDestro 6 ай бұрын
I always considered Nanaki a dog
@josephd8129
@josephd8129 8 ай бұрын
Don't know why I got recommended this video 5 months later but I just wanted to mention I always loved Cait Sith but he gets a LOT more screentime and personality in Dirge of Cerberus. Same thing with Yuffie and of course Vincent they all get much needed spotlight in Dirge that they were lacking in the original game. I'm aware Dirge didn't review that great but being able to see these lesser utilized characters is a treat and also I'm just a sucker for that PS2 jank aesthetic 🤷 Edit: Also just remembered Reeves in general is significantly more important post FF7 (AC and Dirge) because he basically takes over Shinra and runs it humanely attempting to right all the wrongs of prior leadership.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
Good notes here. Yeah this video decided to take off after my most recent post. Glad to see it getting some more eyes like yours on it. I put some work into it 😅
@josephd8129
@josephd8129 8 ай бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning Oh yeah man I can tell its really well made! So what is your opinion of Cait after playing Rebirth LOL
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
@@josephd8129 the PR answer would be “…find out in my next video!” But my short surmising answer would be that he hasn’t left my party since he joined it. He can combo well regardless of whether he’s alive (the doll can battle without him once summoned). His attacks do pressure off the bat. He can also stagger easily with basic attacks. He makes luck builds viable. The skills I have so far with him are awesome. His synergy skills are great as well. He’s a shoe in for hard mode. I joked about gambling only being fun at the dragon quest casino. Cait Sith IS the dragon quest casino
@josephd8129
@josephd8129 8 ай бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning LOL sounds great I look forward to seeing the video analysis then!
@kurisu7885
@kurisu7885 8 ай бұрын
I put Cait Sith into my party to try him out and I have not removed him if that says anything, plus he gets a really cool synergy attack with Barret.
@GossipGeist
@GossipGeist Жыл бұрын
Great video. Now THIS is what remasters/remakes should be for. Bringing unpopular or underwhelming aspects within the game into the forefront by reworking them into something awesome and more interesting. FF7R's got it figured out.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
I’m excited to play it 😗
@Zirbip
@Zirbip Жыл бұрын
Finally! Someone else who thinks Amarant sucks! Thank you!
@deadzone4033
@deadzone4033 8 ай бұрын
Reeve is Daigo Dojima with a cat fursona
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
His actions will lead the Tojo clan to prospurrity
@deadzone4033
@deadzone4033 8 ай бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning The Hojo Clan I'm sorry
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
@@deadzone4033 you took it where my mind couldn’t even imagine taking it, and I admire you for that 🥲
@Timothy1395
@Timothy1395 8 ай бұрын
I remember when I first saw Daigo with long hair I immediately thought to myself “Is that Reeves from FFVII?” So apparently I am not the only one who sees this likeness.😂
@sparrowsanzo
@sparrowsanzo 10 ай бұрын
I can’t say I was a fan of Cait Sith before. But it is okay to say I was a fan of the man who controlled him, Reeve Tuesti?
@OmegaGuess
@OmegaGuess 8 ай бұрын
Cait Sith is Reeve's fursona. Change my mind.
@GuiltlessGear
@GuiltlessGear 8 ай бұрын
ill never agree with this cold ass take that cait sith was never good. As a party member, he embodies the archetype of seemingly useless, but potentially devastating, And in the story, he's every bit the character he is in rebirth, which faithfully represents him. I still remember when remake got a lot of credit for "fixing" Aerith, when really all it did was faithfully adhere to her original characterization, as opposed to the traditional heroine that kingdom hearts and the compilation of final fantasy VII chose to represent her as.
@10000Needles
@10000Needles 8 ай бұрын
He is SO much fun to play in Rebirth.
@damiencouturee6240
@damiencouturee6240 7 ай бұрын
How is the combat? I was so excited for the remake project, got the first part as soon as it was out and only played for like an hour. Even making use of the weaknesses and everything the fights were just way too long, like seriously four times longer than they should have been for normal mode. If they were difficult fights that'd be one thing, but even the first enemy in the game takes like 90 seconds of constant attacking to take down, it's just not fun at all lol.
@10000Needles
@10000Needles 7 ай бұрын
@@damiencouturee6240 His combat is definitely the most different and risk/reward in comparison. You have to rely on first strike materia so you can have an atb bar ready to summon your moogle. Otherwise you have to build it up and he’s really squishy and takes a bit to build up. Once you get the right setup and Jam Pack luck bonuses he has the ability to hit like a truck.
@tankatlus5797
@tankatlus5797 Жыл бұрын
You think they should improve Cait Sith's character in rebirth and get him to be a functional character he desrved better writing and better battle mechanics since hes so cute
@Cloud-dt6xb
@Cloud-dt6xb Жыл бұрын
God I hope so I love 7 and I love rooting for the little guys but too much about him is just confusing in the original gamr
@justhaku9240
@justhaku9240 7 ай бұрын
The repeated comments about nanaki being called a dog or a cat is so funny to me 😂
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 7 ай бұрын
Hey, I’ll take the engagement 😗
@engineerkentgaming1371
@engineerkentgaming1371 8 ай бұрын
And Cait Sith has redeemed. From whatver to one of my favorites of all time.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
Right!? I’m loving him!
@thedrunkenchimp
@thedrunkenchimp 8 ай бұрын
Red XIII is a dog always has been. He freaking howls in the Cosmo Canyon scene in the original. He has a limit break called howling moon.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
His creator is on record saying he’s a cat
@stuffandthings617
@stuffandthings617 8 ай бұрын
According to a wiki and his body he is in fact both: "They resemble real-world big cats with their roaring, body shape, sharp claws, teeth, and overall movement, although they share some characteristics with wolves and other canines, such as howling and non-retractable claws." "Red XIII's species is never named in the series, but could relate to shisa and komainu that derive from Chinese "guardian lions", and resemble a cross between a lion and a dog. "Lion-dog" statues are used as wards, people placing pairs of shisa on their rooftops or flanking the gates to their houses, and komainu seen alongside temple entrances. In the Final Fantasy VII series, Red XIII's species act as the planet's guardians."
@tehSunBro
@tehSunBro 7 ай бұрын
Holy crap that Aerith death thing with Cait Sith is so sad. Would've never put that together myself, but it makes so much sense, that he's trying to read a fortune but fails since she has no future.
@XavierDarkhand
@XavierDarkhand Жыл бұрын
I had a similar feeling of "Wait. He's actually cool?" ...but I sure didn't go into such detail as you have. Thanks for this detailed analysis; it was a fun ride that I found myself agreeing with easily.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
I meant to respond to this. I’m glad you enjoyed it! Sometimes I get inspired to challenge myself to make something out of a topic that’s difficulty to discuss. This was one of those topics (because I couldn’t tolerate old Cait Sith).
@thegamersician
@thegamersician Жыл бұрын
I always called him "Kay-it". I'll have to get used to "Kate" lol Cait Sith was always left on my bench. In the 9 times I played and beat FFVII in my lifetime, I think I've used him maybe twice. Maybe. Great video about these optional characters backstories, and why CS looks WAY cooler in Rebirth. Thanks for using the tune dude!
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
That's a first as far as pronunciations, but when his name has been kept secret for 25+ years, it's no surprise, haha. You are preaching to the choir on that one! Thanks for supplying the tune! It's a jam!
@WheeledHamster
@WheeledHamster Жыл бұрын
Cat Shit!
@nidhogg00
@nidhogg00 Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning His name was said in dirge of Cerberus so dunno about what that 25+ years is about.
@MariusBoss11458
@MariusBoss11458 Жыл бұрын
I called him Kaitlyn.
@ElFreakinCid
@ElFreakinCid 7 ай бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning His name was spoken in the English and Japanese versions of Dirge of Cerberus, and at any point during the FF Wiki's existence, you could've looked him up and found out his name is spelled in katakana as "ketto shi".
@stuffandthings617
@stuffandthings617 8 ай бұрын
My party always was Cloud (since you can't change him) Vincent and Red/Nanaki, and it will also be in the new game... if Vincent would've been playable but since it was already known pre release that he wouldn't in rebirth his place will be taken b Aerith, just because she is apart from Barret the only other character next to cloud who can attack airborne enemies by default.
@kirkclarke7396
@kirkclarke7396 2 ай бұрын
Caoth sith is the best mage you can add to your party excluding optional characters. His gambling limit breaks make sense when you think about where you found him.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 2 ай бұрын
@@kirkclarke7396 oh I know that. He was my favorite character in rebirth. I was more so talking about the gambler job class in general and how I initially didn’t find it to be fun when first playing Cait in ff7
@Zephhi
@Zephhi 8 ай бұрын
Not only did they expand upon Cait Sith, but they actually made him a fun party member who is broken too lol. He gets a 2 ATB ability which is Lucky Slots and if you switch to someone else and use it, you don't even have to manually stop them and I'm pretty sure you get a random broken beneficial effect. One of them gives the whole party auto life, and the only other one I saw does a lot of damage which can pressure and stagger. Overall he's just so damn good in Rebirth, I have used him at every chance I've had since I got him.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
1) Great pfp 2) I completely agree. I only have two of his weapons so far, but I’m noticing there’s already a lot of broken things he can do. If Mog doll is summoned but Cait Sith is dead, for example, the Mog doll can still attack the enemy
@Zephhi
@Zephhi 8 ай бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning Yeah, he gets some crazier abilities later on. Also thanks, Zidane is the goat and so is FF9. Praying for that rumored remake news 🙏
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
@@Zephhi you belong on this channel. I’ll definitely be making FF9 related content if the remake ever gets announced. If it doesn’t, I’ll STILL probably be making some FF9 related content. I’m personally fascinated by its secrets and how you can’t get a perfect game no matter how hard you try.
@Zephhi
@Zephhi 8 ай бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning Yeah. FF9’s only problems are small issues like with the Trance system not being something you get to use often and the animations/actions are very slow, but imo it is still the perfect Final Fantasy.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
@@Zephhi completely agreed on that
@mmarcelo8
@mmarcelo8 6 ай бұрын
Cait Sith is one of the most creative characters. Man, just think about it: To his creation until the final of the saga, he makes us think about his history. Man, a cat fortune teller and spy created and linked with a man who works unhappilly to a empire of evil and decide to use espionage as a mean of rebel himself. This is BAD ASS! And Caith Sith can be a usefull member in gameplay when you know how to use his abilities. It is like playing a game and investing in stocks at the same time. Calculating variables in his moves. Wanna know what really sucks with random attacks? Malak and Rafa from FF Tactics. Those guys is much more pain in the ass. Caith Sith can be useful anytime. And I love this character, not because of nostalgia or the fact I love cats, but for his personality traits and his concept art. He is awesome. He is prepared to sacrifice himself at any time for his people and principles.
@alexc.7375
@alexc.7375 7 ай бұрын
After completing Rebirth I must say the game did an absolutely phenomenal job at making me care about characters I never liked. I'm really glad it has sections where it forces you to pick up characters you might not have ever put in your party.
@AskMia411
@AskMia411 7 ай бұрын
My intro to the character wasn’t through the original game, but Dirge of Cerberus. I was confused why Reeve (who mostly showed up in the story as himself) was occasionally a cat robot. But I liked Reeves character and so ignored that one weird infiltration stage. Because of that, when I went back to ff7 and advent children, I had much more appreciation for cait sith than I would otherwise. FF7 machina abridged’s version of cait sith didn’t hurt either 😁 I’ve loved reeves scenes in the remake/rebirth as either himself or cait sith. My favorite scene is Reeve sitting and humming at his desk while changing the wanted posters. He knows this can’t last, he’s a mole, but boy oh boy is he enjoying his antics and friendships as cait sith! It makes his betrayal and rejection at gold saucer hurt so much more. I loved the brief moment in remake As sector 7’s plate starts to fall, where we see cait running towards it only to fall down in despair. The implication being that Reeve decided to try to stop Shinra’s plan, but didn’t get there in time. That was an excellent character moment absent from the original. Not only did Reeve object to the plan in person, he made an effort to stop it himself. Reeve is the one sane man at Shinra, The only one actually trying to improve peoples lives and curb his colleagues murderous plots. I also love that cait sith’s go to “get out of trouble” strategy is to look cute. A livid Vincent is holding him up menacing him and cait just does a cute little cat pose to seem innocent and harmless. I just really like Reeve, he’s such an interesting and fun character, and I’m thrilled that the new game mechanics add to the enjoyment of his character this time around.
@marcbisson9351
@marcbisson9351 8 ай бұрын
I actually have replaced Red XIII with Cait Sith in my playthrough of Rebirth as his voice actor, overhauled personality and play style are compelling.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
I just got him in my party and he’s fun! It’s also been a whirlwind of emotions so I could only test him a bit before stopping
@solisimperium1203
@solisimperium1203 8 ай бұрын
his name is cait sith in english translations. But in the Japanese translations however, its ケット・シー (ketto shi) which is a japanese way of saying, ket shi (or cat sí?)
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like it depends on which language you’re playing the game in
@ElFreakinCid
@ElFreakinCid 7 ай бұрын
His name is pronounced correctly in literally everything but the English version of Rebirth.
@loialson3441
@loialson3441 8 ай бұрын
He’s a blast in Rebirth! I Pumped him full of Luck and he’s a powerhouse of a kitty
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
I'm having a great time with him 😎
@coxfire
@coxfire Жыл бұрын
Eh, Cait Sith in the original has the only limit that can one shot any ennemy, including the Weapons. His transform limit also came handy in tough challenges (like the Monomod mod). And he comes with manipulate, which, yay for ennemy skills, I guess! Him being basically a Reeve avatar I always found funny. But yeah, they did make him look 10 times more interesting in 10 seconds in the trailer, and the synergy abilities also allow far more fun.
@bobxbaker
@bobxbaker 8 ай бұрын
i always liked cait sith, but i wasn't that proficient in english the first time around and i thought cait sith was the mog doll at first so this megaphone weapon didn't make much sense to me at the time. however i can see why people didn't like cait sith, mainly because he kinda sticks out like a sore thumb and he wasn't edgy and cool and his limit break was generally hot garbage with the chance of creating a game over, could you imagine tifa having a game over slot in her slot machine, yeah that would probably tank their popularity quite a bit. ofcourse cait siths story without proper context was confusing and often antagonizing to most players so most players would judge cait sith by his first impression as a dopey antagonist who sucks to play as. but what i saw was a fun loveable character that had a few tricks up his sleeve who wasn't perfect, who made mistakes who actually brought light to an overall dark and quite somber game.
@mattitude4464
@mattitude4464 7 ай бұрын
Cait Sith was akways my favorite party member. Such a distinct look and olaystyle
@exodore2000
@exodore2000 8 ай бұрын
I used Cait Sith in my playthrough of the original ff7 Vincent you got way too late. Don't remember much it was 27 years ago, I do remember going after the Weapons when I accidentally erased my game. All I had left was one save before finding Tifa.
@alxjones
@alxjones 8 ай бұрын
Can't believe I just sat through 12 minutes of pure SLANDER just to get to the good stuff. Let me be perfectly clear: Cait Sith has _always_ been awesome. He's an interesting character who is both goofy and serious, both cat and man (and moogle), both friend and foe. He plays a pretty significant role in the story, acting as the party's man on the inside, and despite the betrayal, he always fights _for_ Cloud and friends. Gameplay-wise, however, he is far and away the best character in the game, in that he can defeat any enemy in a single turn with much less investment than any of the other characters that can do so. The only requirement is to get 40 kills Cait Sith, so basically right from when he joins, you can get an insta-win machine for any fight left in the game. It is telling that there are entire speedrun categories where the only additional rule is that you can't use this one move. Aside from that, he is the best spell-caster in the early-to-mid game because of the Silver M-Phone, which is obtained in Mt. Nibel and has 8 unlinked Materia slots. Since Materia increases stats, more slots means more stats, which is enough for him to reverse the gap in Magic and MP with Aerith -- for whom he's essentially a drop-in replacement after Disc 1 anyways. In mid-to-late game, Vincent does bring just a _dash_ more to the table in terms of MP, while the sacrifices to HP and Attack are made up for by his ability to shoot from the back row.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
I love your fervor and I think I was wrong about him in a lot of ways before making the video. He will most likely be in my final party in Rebirth
@V_i_vi_an
@V_i_vi_an 7 ай бұрын
I actually always had Cait Sith in my party during OG FF7, his arc was very interesting and I love gray characters or characters with a redemption arc. Him being a spy who has a change of heart after travelling with the party, wondering why they're doing this, also confronting Avalanche's past crimes, giving nuance to the group is one of the best writing decision of the entire story. People just don't like him because A) he betrays the party and people are very surface level, never questioning why and not trying to understand a character's motivations and B) his combat is very gimmicky, but he's proven to be one of the most versatile party members if you know what you're doing. In conclussion: Cait is actually an amazing adition to FFVII
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 7 ай бұрын
After spending time doing some research, I wholeheartedly agree, even if I’m still frustrated by his mechanics in OG FF7
@sunnecas
@sunnecas 8 ай бұрын
I love Cait Sith, such a goofy lad
@pEac3LOv30319
@pEac3LOv30319 Жыл бұрын
That was a really fun video. I hadn’t thought about the contrast between Cait Sith’s short “death” and how it influences the impact of Aerith’s actual death. I have no doubt that they’ll make his character more interesting and likable, like they did with Yuffie. Also, I like how a couple of his attacks have the word “kitty” in them. It’s really cute. 😁
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! It was fun for me to make.
@AeSyrNation
@AeSyrNation 7 ай бұрын
When I was little, I thought Cait Sith _was_ the moogle, that just had a funny hat. I also thought "mog" was the species, and "moogle" was a name
@AskMia411
@AskMia411 7 ай бұрын
Cloud: “You threw dice at them?” Cait Sith: “It’s a very devastating attack!!!” - FF7 machina abridged
@Britt9811
@Britt9811 7 ай бұрын
I've used cait sith in my main party every playthrough, he's always been one of my top favorites, he's so cute & has an interesting plot.
@UltravioletNomad
@UltravioletNomad 8 ай бұрын
I wasn't into FF7 until I played Crisis Core, and still then haven't actually completed a full playthrough of OG. Perhaps my opinion of Cait Sith is predominantly influenced by speedruns and Machinabridged. But honestly my least favorite was Vincent. The reason I told myself FF7 was overrated back in the day was because I thought Cloud was a mopey edgelord. And all of those impressions were fueled by Squares fumbling with the character in other media at the time, like Kingdom Hearts and Dissidia. And I felt like Vincent was trying to out edgelord the MC in his own game. Granted I now know that Cloud is a socially awkward nerd fronting as a badass, that FF7 is one of the funnest worlds Square has created that somehow makes the silliest jokes land in spite of being paired by some of the gravest moments. The fact that Vincent is a literal vampire isn't accidentally absurd in a failed attempt at coolness, it's intentionally silly, it's part of the vibe. But Cait Sith best exemplifies the heartwarming silliness of FF7, and I can't not love him. There's no subtlety to his character, the way he forces his way into your party is a feature, how it's immediately obvious how corporate he is. The betrayal was shocking but the fact that he's a double agent, not really. And he's just a silly little guy.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
Well said. You’re the second commenter to mention speed running when it concerns Cait Sith
@kieragard
@kieragard 8 ай бұрын
It's funny because he's actually the strongest in the original. He can one shot any boss if you pause the game and get the guarantee kill every time.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
I’ve seen that UI manipulation, and it’s super cool. He just wasn’t for me in the original. But I’ve turned a new leaf with him in rebirth. I love him now
@cooperknight1302
@cooperknight1302 8 ай бұрын
He's unironically my favorite character. He's so adorably sweet and such a little goof. I love the freedom that this modernization has given him and I'm so happy to enjoy playing him
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
He hasn’t left my party since he joined
@cooperknight1302
@cooperknight1302 8 ай бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning finna do the WHOLE HARD MODE with him 😭🥰
@slowpoke8585
@slowpoke8585 6 ай бұрын
BUT HE’S A CAT! What more do you people want!?!? But seriously, I love the moogle that accompanies Cait. I like the idea that he’s just a toy moogle that’s TRYING to fit in with the other moogles, but he’s just too different. I think of Cait as being the brains and the moogle being the brawn.
@JonFroboy
@JonFroboy 7 ай бұрын
crazy cause once i got him i kept him in the party, and never got rid of him, he makes a great tanky spellcaster
@ryanredd4552
@ryanredd4552 8 ай бұрын
Post game Rebirth spoilers below Cait Sith is actually very fun and unique in Rebirth. I have no clue how they keep coming up with new play styles in the Remake series. And the fact that he is actually a fun gambler is mind boggling. It took me a while to get used to how he played, but once I did, he actually replaced Aerith as my magic user, and I ended up using him, Cloud and Tifa to beat Gilgamesh.
@MaffeGamer
@MaffeGamer 7 ай бұрын
I was sold on Cait when he started talking
@Armand723jx
@Armand723jx Ай бұрын
it tickles me to my core when barrett said “shinra bootlicker” 🤣 so hilarious when one of the party members roast him around for being suspecious 😂
@fnglert
@fnglert 7 ай бұрын
Rebirth is the best thing that ever happened to Caith Sith.
@WanupDeShroom
@WanupDeShroom 8 ай бұрын
I used to hate the character when I first played the original and then I never really thought about the character ever since until rebirth happened and made me love the guy, he’s like one of my fav parts.
@linsi5512
@linsi5512 Жыл бұрын
Cait Sith was my 2nd fav after Aerith.. also Cait Sith started out as a mole, and his story arc for betraying Shinra to side with Cloud's party. he's also a mystery unit. self questioning, self doubt. and all that. (hard to explain now at 35+ year old, but i related to him when i was in my teens) i guessing you prejudge him too quickly and didnt give him the benefit of the doubt...
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah 10 and 16-17 year old me (the ages I played the game at) were tough customers. I’m excited to try him out.
@newmovietrailers20xx
@newmovietrailers20xx 7 ай бұрын
Cait Sith is one of the best gimmic characters in FF.
@silasstryder
@silasstryder 8 ай бұрын
Waiting on them to cook like I did for Cyberpunk (only played 7 hours before putting it down at launch, gonna jump in with the DLC and all the quality of life mods to have the ultimate almost fully first time Cyberpunk experience soon!) Once part 3 is out I'm pulling the trigger on the PS5 (or let's be honest, probably the PS6 by then lol) and playing all of them with fresh eyes. Haven't even seen a let's play on the first part. I'm so excited and am happy I have plenty of other great games to play while I wait! Life is good man
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
I am happy to hear that and I respect your approach. You’re absolutely right. I have a backlog of like…30+ games right now
@silasstryder
@silasstryder 8 ай бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightningthey had a steal of a deal for FF 9,12, and 15 GOTY edition on Xbox so I’ve been playing those. Just 100% completed 15 which is another great example of a game that needed time to cook cuz I know at launch it was only like 60% of the content the GOTY edition has, the score shortly after launch isn’t accurate anymore I’d say, being as objective as possible, FF 15 is between an 8/10 and 9/10 just depends on your preference in RPG games
@isleofredemption
@isleofredemption 6 ай бұрын
“Who’s your least fav-“ “YUFFIE.” “… I didn’t fin-“ “YOU DON’T NEED TO.”
@wolfwinter5033
@wolfwinter5033 8 ай бұрын
Hi there wiz i just found your video i loved it a lot but i really love cait sith in ff7 rebirth remake a lot seriously
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 8 ай бұрын
I just got him! Can’t wait to test drive further
@wolfwinter5033
@wolfwinter5033 8 ай бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning In my party i put him with red 13 also i'm still on chapter 9 so far i'm loving rebirth
@wolfwinter5033
@wolfwinter5033 8 ай бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning How are you enjoying rebirth so far?
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