My Opinions on the CHIEFTAIN After the NERF! | World of Tanks

[@emhyrvaremreis8949]

When you play chieftain you feel like the whole world hates you, including your team

[@Giovani992]

Imagine how much players quit the game because of chieftain?

[@nevr9199]

@@Giovani992 well deserved hate.

[@unclepaulhahrrgis8730]

You feel that way because its true xD

[@tibor1234]

they just should removed them from randoms. There was no nerf needed.

[@emhyrvaremreis8949]

@@tibor1234 just give him -9/-8 gun depression. It is way better nerf than what they do

[@gabereichenbach5662]

This and the 279e will forever get focused by the enemy team no matter how nerfed they get.

[@galaxygs96]

Both op

[@PatrickPalder]

ye because jealousy is a big thing in the modern world

[@DeepDeepest]

@@PatrickPalder eliminating the strongest player/tank you call jealousy?

[@1515AC]

@@PatrickPalder 🤡 That's not why. Don't project your feelings in your comments.

[@its_marcel_]

@@DeepDeepestthe tank is only as strong as its player.. u can sit in a chief and get zero dmg and guys lie skill and Mailand can sit in the loltractor and have mega games… people hate the chief and the 279E cause they’re jealous that they don’t have it

[@patrickellinwood18]

Your experience of the Chieftain is exactly how I feel about the Bobject, it was all I could do to grind the field mods. Shit DPM, shit gun handling. Everyone loads heat and evaporates you. Just hated it.

[@gabrielnegrila5631]

Not all tanks have HEAT ammunition to be able to penetrate the 279e, it is not enough to have HEAT, the penetration must be over 330. The 279e remains the only OP tank, the Chieftain with an APCR of 311 doesn't even scratch it if it doesn't hit it at the tiny cap.

[@gabrielnegrila5631]

@@sergfrombelarus6015 Congratulations if you manage to penetrate the front of the 279e with APCR ammo with 311 penetration, the RNG must love you very much. I tell you that E3 barely penetrates it with APCR. Otherwise, it only takes damage from HEAT with minimum penetration of 320. Plus, the 279e doesn't have a hull, it doesn't have to hide the bottom, it sits face to face with you and the only chance is to hit the cap on its left/your right. And it loads even faster than Chief.

[@Skerrry]

@@sergfrombelarus6015 279e hull has over 320mm of armor if he is using gun depression. So 311mm APCR has around 20% chance to pen that. Only garbage 279e players play the tank on flat ground.

[@gabrielnegrila5631]

@@sergfrombelarus6015 What did I say? Apart from the E3 that penetrates the 279e with APCR, how many tanks can do the same with AP or even with HEAT, firing right into the hull? Okay, I forgot Godzilla.

[@Skerrry]

@@sergfrombelarus6015 300 is not enough if he is using gun depression, especially if he is aiming at or above your gun.

[@cheesyboofs]

We respect you Skill for also posting the stinky games.

[@lukascholaj6842]

I didnt realise wargaming was allowed to nerf gold ammo, havent paid much attention to the game for years but i recall premium items not being nerfed

[@Aquifilia]

It's a reward tank, not a permium. You couldn't get this for money, so technically they could always nerf it

[@joaoguilherme9034]

also " gold " ammo inst even purchased with gold anymore its just more expensive

[@ItsMeMars]

How “no allowed” it’s their own game lol.

[@adnan2299]

​@@ItsMeMarsthey are not allowed to nerf prem tanks for example because its a real money item. Imagine u buy a car and then after that they put out ur engine and put a worse into it

[@bellum_7997]

​@@adnan2299It's called typical bussines kiddo I sold those kinds of cars at second hand because it was too expensive to repair the original engine

[@FrontsLeader]

I think the problem with this tank is ammo, APCR feels realy bad because if you hit at an angle you will bounce unlike AP with normalisation.

[@Samimies]

IRL it is APFSDS ammo which doesn't ricochet. The round should have like 83° max angle.

[@Gotalanes789]

right ? everyone who knows anything about this knows thats apfsds ammo is more effective against angled armor, but hey WG doesnt care about any of the real physics in this.@@Samimies

[@-dany-3374]

how many years did we have to wait for this?

[@claytonwhitman2611]

BZ-176 has the best HE pen in the game skill, its over 200

[@erikpredovan8430]

But it is premium, not standard shell, right?

[@Samimies]

Doesnt FV4005 have ~260

[@jeffhillstead3302]

I'm having same issues with Tiger 1.. You can do crazy good and not get a 1st class or ( M ) !

[@SilverforceX]

311 APCR nerf is the big deal, there's quite a few heavies you can no longer reliably penetrate, while they can load HEAT and nail you. Edit: Most Chieftains play in a platoon, they use their teammate to pad their stats to 3 mark it. This is why its so padded and difficult for solo players.

[@casuscnactus4864]

There seems to be a trend here also the newer heavies have low gold pen which is a stealth buff to tanks like Maus, Type5 and E100.

[@tankidestiny8290]

same with the 279.. why not make it the typical 330 Heat at least...

[@Adierit]

@@casuscnactus4864 311 pen still pens through the front turret cheeks on the Maus. Even an IS-7 with its 303 pen can pen the Maus's turret and it's completely green 96% chance to pen whenever they're looking at you, which is required for them to shoot you.

[@Skerrry]

​@@AdieritE-100 and 279e will be pretty difficult to pen.

[@Adierit]

@@Skerrry E-100 is covered in weak spots, the entire range finder that juts out the top of the turret, as well as the lower plate are made of butter. 279e you can still pen the front hull and both cupolas.

[@sandboy5880]

Instead of nerfing the aspect/s of a tank which are indeed a problem (so in Chieftain's case the impenetrable frontal turret) WG pulls their nerfs out of their ass and nerfs something which was not the problem to begin with. Ultimately leaving the tank even more broken than it used to be. Nerfing average to bad (like dpm) so its strongest aspects are effectively made to be even stronger than before (its turret armor) cause now when you can't capitalize on the dpm that much you have to abuse the impenetrable-hull-down-play even more to increase your chances to be successful. Which is not only unbalanced by definition but also in this particular case - makes playing the game with Chief even more toxic for everyone involved. In addition, you piss off some of your whale players. I mean, what can I say, just amazing as usual WG.

[@no1washerezz]

how can you manage to complain a nerf to the chieftain? prefer it to revert back to the unnerfed state?

[@sandboy5880]

@@no1washerezz I can cause the nerf makes not that much sense whatsoever. And no, I don't even have a Chieftain. I don't want the tank to be un-nerfed cause that something is still better than nothing but that doesn't change the fact that the way they've nerfed it is far from being ideal. They didn't even *address* the main problem and decided to nerf other aspects which weren't nearly as much of an issue to begin with. And so, the tank is still toxic and effectively even more broken than before but it is weaker.

[@no1washerezz]

@@sandboy5880 how so that the tank is more broken?

[@sandboy5880]

@@no1washerezz It's more broken cause it's more uneven all around the board even though it's generally weaker. Broken doesn't necessarily mean unbalanced, stronger, op or something like that. Broken in this case means that the tank doesn't work like it's supposed to. At least in my opinion. They've taken from him some basically from anything besides its strongest virtue which is the impenetrable frontal turret armor. Even before the nerf Chieftain has already been busted to all fuck cause that impenetrable turret armor was heavily overshadowing all of its other aspects but now the gap is even wider and more visible. It's like now this tank is even more 1-0 like. There's really the only one possible way of playing it as nothing else works anymore. It's either play hull down or get farmed. In my opinion the tank should have been nerfed and/or changed in such a way that its playstyle would be more even out across all its aspects. That doesn't mean it shouldn't have stronger and weaker sides but it shouldn't be a 1-0 case either.

[@no1washerezz]

@@sandboy5880 what you're saying the chieftain was previously is exactly what made the tank so powerful in the first place. it was just capable of doing everything whether it was hull down, flanking, you name it. i believe the tank should have gotten an all round nerf (small nerfs to gun, armor, everything) to keep the playstyle but quite frankly, the only way to nerf the armor in any meaningful and balanced way is to increase cupola size and changing armor models is something wargaming rarely if ever do anymore

[@hedidhaouadi6380]

glad you found your rhythm towards the end of the video. the first 2 games were painful

[@martincortesrodriguez8248]

The nerf I most feel bad about it is the speed one, I’m using the CW setup as primary (Hardening, rammer and turbo) and reach key positions now is kinda difficult. It feels like the new Chieftain is as good as any other Heavy Tank out there. The DPM nerf was unnecessary since the penetration was nerfed as well, bc the gun wasn’t good anyways. PS: Skieeeel pls play with Obj 260, there’s quite time with no video of that beautiful mother trucker ❤

[@test_nametest_surname1794]

are you sad you cannot beat pubbies like you're used to?

[@GenHummel96]

+1 Instead of nerding mobility, dpm and penetration on the gold ahell, WG simply should have weakened the turret armor! The armor was the biggest issue with chieftain, but again WG is showing that they dont play their own game

[@mathgasm8484]

my chief is fully bonded out with a 7 skill crew and it works just fine.

[@_honu_]

@@test_nametest_surname1794 found the 400 wn8 player

[@test_nametest_surname1794]

@@_honu_ what you mean?

[@alphasite02]

Good morning from California, USA

[@kapulodulog2275]

:)

[@norstanschooten4018]

279 and chieftain are still OP, watch the video of DAKI

[@bercellaki5293]

Caliban has 180 mm of pen at standard HE

[@christopherestes6760]

nooo, there were players averaging 5-6k in the chieftain... 10:57 WAIT-WHAT! that was a massive jump for only 3600 combined!!!

[@alex.mielus]

2 years have past since you played with a SUPER tank. The SUPER Hellcat.

[@markodespotov1455]

skeeel try the buffed ST II we need your say on it!

[@GregMurch]

Does sliding down the hill spill the tea?

[@I_Am_Just_A_Technician]

Chieftain in real life is an icon and one of the best tanks Britain has built. Chieftain in WOT is one of the most depressing additions to world of tanks for both opponents and players.

[@Immortal_BP]

my god they actually did it, i might have to play the game again just to face against this thing

[@Derguz]

About hating a tank... I watched a video from MaxGamingFPS where he was dissing on the Kuntze panzer and honestly - I had to reply.. I love that tank, it's by far one of my best performing tanks and I love every battle with it.. But as MaxGaming wrote back: "You can love a turd, just as long as you know it's a turd".. Perhaps you can hate a diamond as well - just as long as you know it's a diamond.. Btw I don't have the chieftain, I've never really played clan wars and wasn't all that interested in it either... Although with the quality of team mates one can sometimes yearn for something better..

[@stefan5408]

im happy wg do this. regular must all clanwars reward tanks play only tier x battles.

[@Haris-V]

😂Skill in the thumbnail bout to become Ghost Rider ..... Spirit of Vengence 🔥🔥

[@unclej3910]

I can't figure out how skill4ltu can roll his speech so well? I can't roll my tongue enough to sound like him.

[@sgtgrumpy13]

Hey mate, I have seen when you get greedy in the Chieftain it really really don't work for you. Most of the tanks that you play you can get greedy in.

[@CharlesRobson-bp5eg]

When I play art.........when I see OTHERS play arty they always focus chief and 279e...

[@ogmechsftw]

now this tank is just tier 10 122TM

[@kermitsto]

"calm as a pickle in the jar" lawlz.

[@michalt74]

About 17:30 - E5 then, please!

[@seancook9192]

skill 50 percent of the reason i watch your videos is to see you rage I feel your pain and maybe im sadistic but i laugh

[@davidballantyne4492]

You should certainly not play tanks which upset you so much, everyone likes to see happy Skill!

[@prinzvonbismarck6821]

I want to watch skill doing a real challenge! How about 3 mark Matilda BP???😁😁😁

[@petarvusic2845]

Nice to finally see this nerfs for those 2 abominations, although I hate every tank equally when it treats you bad. Havent been playing for half a year and I hope Im not the only one, because wg just wont listen

[@Densiak]

Skill I have same experience with this tank. I hate it !!! People talking how OP this tank is but who dont have it dont know how you can be angry whenever you playing this crap. Of course I had amazing battles but most of the games I was close to throw my computer through the window. Greetings!

[@MrOzmeister69]

NO Sound?

[@JoshYxVdM]

I think a huge problem with marking chief is that, unless you're an actual god, you have to be an asshole to get the best results. You have to completely disregard your teammates if it gives you an advantage. You have to peek in front of them if it will give you a shot, even if doing so will cause your teammates to miss their shot. At least, this is how most chieftain players play.

[@mirko8838]

20:02 Jagdpizdas😂

[@alal-ji7ph]

to be successful you need indifferent players that's how the game works.

[@jellevanhuizen9108]

Will still focus them with all my heart in arta

[@wosrespect3671]

I dont know if you were talking about tier 10 only but caliban has 180 standard he shells which is highest

[@jannekoskinen2050]

But caliban has a derp gun

[@gapyke1]

❤ I feel for you. Love your content.

[@andypandy2848]

only 5 years to fix it....wonder what's coming next...

[@yivo2824]

5A has better pen, DPM and speed

[@GhanBuri666]

Uhm, I played one or two games after nerf so objective, but the most annoying part of nerf is that this tank is now more sluggish. And rate of fire is now shitter, but it's quite small change in most of the situations. Gold ammo I don't use, so I don't care, coz spamming gold doesn't give me satisfaction. Anyway I don't care anymore about nerfs and map changes, I have plenty of other games if wot gonna suck.

[@atalan09]

This or Type 5 :-) Come on its not that bad, or is it ?

[@slick18me]

Now Skill4ltu can get 3 marks on it cause the expectations values will decrease :D before he did 92%

[@GinBoeDusky]

Love to see those changes. Finally WG does something good for the game

[@fekorak]

Would you rather to play with Chieftain or Carro? :D

[@skill4ltu]

carro

[@fekorak]

@@skill4ltu Chieftain really broke your soul.

[@mihalyrublinszki8741]

Baboon kryptonit REEEE

[@fencer39]

Pleased to say I focus fired a Chieftan and destroyed him from full hp in my tier 9 arty. took about 8 shots.....I lol'd

[@jesperbonde1]

Skiiiilllll - you need a break🫶

[@eze8970]

TY 🙏🙏

[@davidsiddons8690]

only for certain people anyway

[@CharlyDontSurf1]

Chief is only playable in chief platoon

[@EtBr1978]

Pain to play, pain to play against! What more is there to ask of a great tank for an awsome gaming experience! LUL

[@davidd2563]

Now imagine if Wargaming didn't magically put it in your garage but you called into work to be able to participate in the campaign, managing the map, your clan members and called battles for 2 weeks to be able to earn it. Followed by applying bond equipment and grinding 7 skill crews to be competitive in clan wars style matches (who cares about stupid pub matches). Yeah, the tank is a tier 9 now because of all the cry babies who couldn't earn one.

[@TheStormtrooper00]

Ciff is Ciff.

[@WrekuiemForAMeme]

Got a funny feeling Skill doesn't like this tank. Don't know why though...

[@Chrizzonator]

Endlich wurde der Dreck mal generft xD wenn ich den nicht haben kann dann ist das nur richtig so :D voll unfair

[@airbornefilip9139]

8:03 I'm guilty of this whenever I test my luck for arty missions and see Chief on the opposite side. There are few other tanks that get same treatment, regardless of with what I'm playing to be honest.

[@galaxygs96]

I hope WG remove this tank and obj-279e

[@rolyantrauts2304]

Skill you are spending to much time with your special sock recently and still have shaky aim.

[@bloke755]

PLAY CHIEFTAIN ======= TAKE PROZAC !!!

[@phatline08]

That's the cheap chieftain😂😅😅 mine still good

[@joe125ful]

Players just not want play with not OP tanks...

[@zigasi86]

Thats how it is in every game. You allways thrive for the best. Nothing new.

[@joe125ful]

@@zigasi86 Yep.

[@tyburonrelax]

chief was a REWARD tank.they nerfed it way too much. now is a piece of sh!t.

[@jopppreett506]

😂

[@jacintopalomino7871]

Dont play chieftain Skill you become a bad baboon

[@befuriousDK]

Lets make something good for the game, what about extra server for all players from Poland??? I hate them all!

[@Kristiyan-Angelov]

Why?

[@Leitwolf22]

Chief is dead, 279e is dead, WOT is dead

[@seeer3240]

What's the point of the best reward tank then? I'll never play CW again now. Pointless.

[@potatopcgamer2010]

😢

[@dimitrimitkov]

first

[@hexphobia]

Even nerfed I will still yolo them

[@oofsizelarge9657]

based

[@mofaklaus8028]

mad because you never get one?

[@_lo8241]

It’s that internal joy you get knowing you ruined the game of someone who expected to do very well because they’re in a tryhard tank

[@Giovani992]

​@@mofaklaus802895% of the players don't got one

[@Giovani992]

Some weeks ago I permatracked one, oh boy!! So satisfying!

[@gazorgan]

I spent a very long difficult Clan Wars season to get the opportunity to auction bonds for the Chieftain. Super Conq's really have their charms lol. However, in pub matches, I get pounded every time. People hate this tank and I have 0 wins in it, it just gets focused down or clipped out (no hull armour). It just sits in the garage.....meh.

[@wotdragonracer5624]

Caliban has 180mm with standard HE, so idk. Kpz 07 PE is also quite close at 110mm if im not mistaken.

[@lpanades]

Play Grille 15 than. You will begin to love Chieftain from the deepest of your heart.

[@luksimur]

and remeber allways focus them❤

[@GenHummel96]

Chieftains main problem has never been the mobility, neither the dpm, it was the IMPENETRATABLE TURTET ARMOR, which remained as it was pre nerf! So what do we get? Tier 8 and 9 tanks will still be chanceless against chieftain, they just will be easier to farm! In my opinion, they should have left it on its speed and dpm, but weaken the armor! Reduce the turret ring from 350 to 250mm and increase the size of the 270mm "weakspot" below the gun! THAT would make chieftain morr balanced, not these bullshit changes WG did!

[@Stuka87]

I have played about 15 games in the chief since the nerf. And in my opinion, they did a poor job balancing it. Its now a one trick pony. Its still fantastic at being hull down (number one complaint people had). They made its middling DPM into just bad DPM. The hull traverse nerf really hurts the mobility, and the mid-range top speed is now on the lower side of other heavies. Even an IS-4 has a higher top speed now. It is now a pretty aggravating tank to play, and the new KPZ is a much better tank in most situations (minus strictly hull down). And for reference, before the nerf I have a 60% win ratio in randoms, and have played in lots of clans battles with it. So a pretty experienced player in it. And I fully agree with it needing changes. But they made the wrong changes. They basically wanted to turn it into a tank that is no longer fun to play. And in this, they succeeded. They didn't care about actually balancing it.

[@amineharimech3753]

go cry in the corner

[@gabrielnegrila5631]

Corect.

[@kaleidoscopegaming7261]

iyouxin said it's not really change much lol, maybe try another eq, loading then?

[@Stuka87]

@@amineharimech3753 Why, because I pointed out that WG didn’t care about fixing the one thing people complain about the most, and instead just wanted to make a tank that people invested a lot of time to earn, into a bad vehicle? There were lots of ways they could have changed the vehicle. And instead of giving it a weak spot on the turret, they nerfed all the stats that were already middling. Many of the stats are now identical to the tier 9 premium chief proto.

[@PatrickPalder]

@@kaleidoscopegaming7261 he also said that the is-6 gun is the best gun in the game, so who cares at this point

[@DeathSusanoo]

Before I watch this video heres my prediction: Nothing has changed at all. Once the Chieftain arrives at a hulldown positions it's unkillable. Only thing that changed is that it now takes 10 more seconds to arrive at said hulldown position.

[@cincin795]

One more change - now superconq kills chieftains by its dpm :D

[@joaoguilherme9034]

@@cincin795 e5 too i think and some other tanks

[@joaoguilherme9034]

I love eating chieftain turret with my jag pz e 100 heat 🤤

[@hoticeparty]

​@@joaoguilherme9034and everyone else loves eating jag e100 with their heat lol

[@joaoguilherme9034]

@@hoticeparty yeah but its worth it if we can clap a chieftain, every chieftain player deserves pain most of them are these annoying try harders like mark changes anything 💀

[@gabrielnegrila5631]

Why are we still sponsoring this game and this company?

[@kylespainhower7936]

Patiently waiting for the ST II video

[@jackblackwhole]

WG is just nerfing all these tanks to make room for new reward tanks or upcoming tech tree tanks, so that people want to grind the latest and greatest, overpowered for a few months and nerf it to the ground. Why not just introduce tier 11 and 12 tanks? instead of "balancing" the game, it is all just quick cash grab exercises. Making people grind gamemodes and season for the sake of equipments to get an advantage to other players.

[@gabrielnegrila5631]

Correct, I prefer not to sponsor this game anymore, day by day it becomes a joke, on my money and on my nerves.

[@mrsaussissonsec1054]

reload was 7.92 before, with bond rammer and directive, but without vents

[@AverageWotPlayer-tx8pd]

I think you are too negative, that is why you do not perform well. If you add Wot RNG + negativity, this video is perfect example. But you do not enjoy British wheeled line also, and I think this line is great addition to the game.

[@michaptak4314]

17:20 for a second i was expecting you to say "arta or chieftain?? ARTA!" then zoom on your face and "yes arta"

[@luke_3_113]

I hope for your sanity, you do leave this tank to gather dust until you turn 13 again twice more! Belated Happy Birthday x

[@test_nametest_surname1794]

this video is dissapointing. you can make avaerage or below average tank shine with your skills but you cannot make OP monster work. Git good

[@SnoW-pk9zo]

Awful performance. If you were not enjoying it you shouldn't have made the video. Your feelings come through the screen

[@sandboy5880]

He has played in this video like me only after I felt like the RNG was taking a dump on me for three hours straight and I've had enough already so I just mindlessly drive forward and expect to do well enough on autopilot XD

[@andriucha356]

Maybe the horrible Monday series could return and Cheaftain will be the main character of the episode 🤭

[@nicholasdiaz9424]

Solo players must avoid this tank at all costs!!! This tank has been nerfed HARD!

[@203alexej]

Is Skill sick again??!?!? Sadomasochistical content? I am afraid.

[@favorius]

You complain about gun handling but do not use vertical stabs, why?

[@ΣΤΑΘΗΣΣΑΒΒΙΔΗΣ-ι1χ]

i think u meant "u meet your nemesis" cause ur ex is not always bad :)

[@sierzput7]

This tank is your nemezis, and you look tired

[@tonyhancox3657]

WOT a boring and predictable game.

[@TAXOPAREI]

the only reason that the chif has a very high mark ceiling is because 90% its played from very good players , , in a few maps it was very very strong but for me it was at best medioca after the focus u got from the clickers , I played it in the test server where no one played artas and still could not change the flow of the game , today its garbage tank and u have no reason to get in a pup game with it -its not even get in clan wars wen u get almost the same speed with the way better conq , still regret i never sold my account ....

[@dejavupr123456789]

Very dumb nerf