My Present for you! Iron Bundle Only - Pokemon Yellow

Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, or save states
4. No movepool evasion-boosting moves before level 100*
Rule details:
-- I make no attempt to have the exact same rule details between generations.
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- Evasion boosting is allowed if the move is not obtained from the Pokemon’s movepool. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed.
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1 & 4, banned in gen2, and allowed only to bypass terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
-- Items obtained with the ability Pickup can only be used if the starter obtained them
-- The footage is sped up & slowed down to match the pace of my narration
These Rule details apply only to generation 1:
-- All battle-mechanic glitches are allowed (glitches that occur outside of battle are banned)
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
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[@kevinsips3658]

Sadly if Iron Bundle were actually in Gen I, it would be found at level 28 in the seafoam islands and not learn any moves until level 24 💀

[@usernamenotfound80]

Here's what its level-up movepool could look like: 1 - Peck 24 - Tail Whip 30 - Fury Attack 37 - Take Down 55 - Leer 67 - Aurora Beam

[@burgess_and_his_bike]

@@usernamenotfound80and no Body Slam tm

[@paulmann8570]

@@burgess_and_his_bikeI don’t know about that one given how penguins dive; that could be translated into a possible Body Slam.

[@burgess_and_his_bike]

@ exactly why they wouldn’t give it to it

[@TheMoogleKing93]

"what if Delibird was a busted robot?" not a question many of us expected an answer to before Scarlet and Violet.

[@nicholasargiros1331]

Can you describe to me what "Iron Bundle" actually is and how it exists? Never played Scarlet and Violet.

[@Dolph1nRacer]

That backsprite is adorable with just the right amount of Gen 1 jank. I love it.

[@Hyatice]

The backsprite looks like a trapinch waiting to eat you when you try to grab a present lol

[@codyjones6299]

The seen can’t be unseen.

[@Barkstopper]

Ty for leaving in the Fearow incident. Makes it much more fun i think to show off any mishaps that occur. For me, i wouldnt be able to stop chuckling at it, i decided to play along with a paras solo run and that damn fearow reared its head. Like it was the final boss hehe. Anyway look forward to more videos and wish you a MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS Scott and fellow viewers!

[@mimiccave]

I agree. Pokemon has always been a heavily RNG dependent game. It's part of the fun of it.

[@monopolyrubix1875]

My man actually coded in Present so he could use it for 2 seconds in the earlygame and then stop using it immediately

[@ThePiep]

I have never felt more vindicated when we realized during the community event that me using only Metronome actually had am advantage until level 7

[@Skipatronic]

Ooh that Weedle one screams impossible

[@bettyunicorn6132]

Jrose didn't manage it but maybe Scott has enough Yellow fueled jumpsoin to manage it

[@skipspik1571]

@@bettyunicorn6132 Yep. And Jrose did try with perfect IV/DV, which is unsual for him but not for scott. It think it will be classfieid as DNF though, but ranked higher than caterpie

[@SmashMath151]

Haven't watched the Weedle video, but I know it's technically possible with TAS level luck. Really looking forward to it!

[@perkypenguin1663]

On the twenty-fourth day of Christmas, Scott’s Thoughts gave to me… Twenty-four backport bundles, Twenty-three godly showdowns, Twenty-two transformer…Mew, Twenty-one cicada fams, Twenty Swords Dance backports, Nineteen mid tadpole swirls, Eighteen mid bell peppers, Seventeen backported legends, Sixteen evolution tests, Fifteen Kanto kaiju, Fourteen starter redos, Thirteen rare Normal girls, Twelve bear v bull fights, Eleven Gen 1 backports, Ten pounds per pink puff, Nine resists when evolved, Eight Belly Drum badges, Seven years with Psywave, Six slow squad solos, Five mid starter flings! Four Eevee runs, Three years post redo, Two Grass/Ice types, And a Hitmontop in Gen 3!

[@natecunningham4861]

This was a 10/10 Scott’s thoughts video I think the fresh narration helped it sounded more fresh and thought out

[@tobarf2940]

For sure. Love seeing his skill as they are now compared to just a few months ago

[@ricksdarkness3257]

Thank you for being a big part of my year Scott. I found your channel last year and it helped go through a rough time I had, while also making me go back and play the first gens again (and even do my own solo runs in gen 3). Please take care of yourself and get some very well-deserved rest in your vacation. Also yes, sticking to a more fun approach for you is better than feeling anxious because some people on in the internet won't like that Magikarp or Gyarados (for example) couldn't get a slightly better time.

[@Offbreed309]

"Ok, look at my PP.." 😂 Never gets old.

[@craigyeah1052]

From what I've gathered your inner voice to make sure you play to your fans and don't disappoint them is pretty strong, so I'm glad to see you decided to focus on playing the way that gives you the most fun. It's of course good to care about your appeal, but it often turns out that you can make the best when you enjoy it most. Hope you keep at it!

[@Vaati1992]

34:15 I totally agree with your new mindset. Your channel feels like a democratization effort for the solo running community, where you've laid the foundation for the more scientific part of the community with both your runs in general AND with your clear attitude of giving back to the community with your software. As a result having your runs as a "baseline" for an optimized run with that Pokémon makes a lot of sense, especially when you yourself have noticed that doing half a dozen runs to shave off small amounts of time isn't fulfilling/compatible with your production schedule.

[@griifster99]

Not sure if you even wind up using it, but funny enough, Iron Bundle doesn’t actually learn Surf in gen 9. For that matter, the only way it can deal meaningful water damage (bar stuff like Mimic) is Hydro Pump - probably a balancing decision for VGC as Surf Iron Bundle would enable some pretty strong strategies.

[@Pokemonika_]

yeah, that kinda bothered me, not enough to hate the video and not watch it. and also, Delibird has never been able to learn Surf, so I really have no clue where he got it from

[@griifster99]

@@Pokemonika_ to be fair, it’s not like there are a lot of water pokemon that *can’t* learn surf, I mean even Feebas can, so I don’t blame Scott for just assuming and including it

[@1stCallipostle]

​@@griifster99Plus it's Gen 1. They'd give surf to ANYTHING back then

[@RandomXxX13]

​@@1stCallipostleRhydon used Surf.

[@dvillines26]

Iron Bundle would've learned Surf if it was in Gen I, though, so I don't have a problem with it. also, Iron Bundle not learning Surf might make sense for balancing reasons, but in flavor terms it's extremely dumb and I disagree with it.

[@sheahon1179]

So first, amazing video. It is always awesome to see you do really cool runs like this and Daily December has become my most anticipated seasonal celebration of Christmas short of the actual family event. 20:00 When you’re that close to leveling up why don’t you just knock the Onix out with surf and get that level rather than run away and risk more encounters that bleed frames?

[@jensen9402]

Merry Christmas everyone and to you, Scott. Thanks for all your efforts throughout the year. Enjoy a few calm and peaceful days.

[@Nostradankus]

I think the decision to cut back on attempts is really solid. I also like the first two playthroughs best as a viewer. Keep it up and merry christmas!

[@Cream147player]

33:33 I'm in full agreement with this strategy. Of course it's always nice to see the Pokémon perform at their optimum but I think you need to be realistic with what you can achieve in the time you have. Your time could probably be better spent not doing 9 Machoke runs or whatever. For me what is more important than that is: 1) The quality of the videos, in terms of the narratives you create, the storytelling methods etc. 2) Quantity is of course nice but noting we are aware you can only produce what you have time to produce! 3) Always producing legitimate runs. You obviously share certain ways you modify the games to support consistency which is great but it is important to trust that you are not modifying the game beyond that which you are telling us. I can imagine there is a temptation to do otherwise to support speedier production of your videos but I think that trust between us and you is vital to what you're doing! Thanks for a great year of content and looking forward to what's next!

[@johnyboy413]

Lovely Special!☺️ Merry Christmas from Germany Scott❤️❤️🎄

[@GeneralWiggins]

MENTAL HEALTH LET'S GO!!! Cheered hard when you left that blackout in. LFG SCOTT

[@vampocalpyse]

Early Merry Christmas Scott, thanks for all the great content it's really appreciated.

[@bettyunicorn6132]

As always I will commend you on a backsprite well done. It looks straight out of the gen 1 games.

[@RandysOfWar]

The time at the end was unexpected! I do wish you spoke more about implementing present but overall another banger

[@Uran10]

I thought pecking goldeen had art because she collectively gave us all trauma in the parasect race

[@SonicMeters]

Cool video for me since I am sick your videos still brings me to be happy

[@pkthunder7008]

I bet you Scotts employee's were mildly annoyed he wanted to produce a new video during their vacation just to arbitrarily keep that schedule that 99.9% of viewers didn't and would never notice. I still love you Scott :)

[@alyssapaull2128]

It’s as the ghost of delibird future foretold 😮

[@coldloyalty]

Merry Christmas Scott! I can't wait to see what 2025 has in store. Also Ethan the Rattata is now 3 years old and watches your videos with me now. Much love ❤️

[@justinsims655]

Magneton: "Level 40 for Fival is law and you will respect it!"

[@leonardoluiz7487]

I'm pretty sure it's not possible for this year because you probably have the videos lined up, but I would be really cool to a Victini backport for New Year, your birthday or a Pokemon aniverssary. Also, could you please do a Yellow backport playlist? It's easier to check if you done something and I missed it (also would love if the Yellow Playlist got updated if it's not too much work). Also, Merry Christmas! EDIT on the Fearow: Don't put that much pressure on you for small mistakes like that. If a player error mistake happens like that I would just deduct the time from the end time. At most in a situation like this you could just "add back" some time to mimic opening the menu and using repel / full heal when you deduct the time if you want to be through, but I think in this case just cutting the time from the RNG is good enough. EDIT 2: You mentioned before from time to time how as you improve and find out new strategies you think some pokemon you done already could probably get a better time. You could from time to tipo do a "General update" video in which you just do a new run with a batch of old pokemon that you don't intent to revisit soon and do a single video highlighting the new discoveries, the new time and at the end updating the tierlist without having to produce a full video for each one. Not sure if it would be more work then it's worth, but it's an idea. EDIT: On the paradox theme, great tusk would be cool. EDIT 4: Backporting Slaking without Truant to show off his full power would be really cool too.

[@stuyfly]

Working on watching daily December on my free time. In regards to grinding out RNG for the perfect run, I would love to see your tier list and then a community tier list to see what everyone else was able to do. Unless managing another tier list and leaderboards is more stressfull.

[@urbestfriend-oz7zf]

Surprised you gave it surf. Maybe it's because of all the missed Hydro Pumps I've seen, but I feel like the fact that this thing does not learn surf is the most notable fact about it

[@bettyunicorn6132]

Yeah its kinda odd.

[@matthewcline5040]

Probably a gen 1 choice. Most water types if not all learn surf. He tries to do “ what would Gamefreak do”

[@1stCallipostle]

​@@matthewcline5040Them giving surf to everything in Gen 1 is decent logic. He could've also forgor that it doesn't which is understandable

[@matthewcline5040]

@ i don’t really agree with it having surf but I’m putting myself in his shoes that he is trying to put himself in gamefreaks shoes. Giving everyone surf is a stretch. Apples and oranges

[@TheShinyFeraligatr]

@@matthewcline5040 In Gen 1, the only Water type to not get Surf is Magikarp, who doesn't get any TMs or HMs. They also gave it to Nidoqueen, Nidoking, Pikachu/Raichu via event, Lickitung, Rhydon, Kangaskhan, Snorlax, the entire Dratini line, and Mew. If Iron Bundle were in Gen 1, it would definitely have Surf. Even if it makes no sense for it to not have it (remember, Kabuto lost Surf in Gen 2).

[@tehy123]

Speaking as just one guy: I am absolutely in favor of less hardcore grinding to shave off 30 seconds, and more showcasing of strategies and funny moments. If you get a good time but have some bad luck, it is what it is, stuff happens.

[@jharrisbrooks]

I love you stating that you are going to focus on your mental health and work life balance. My son and I love watching your videos.

[@blippblob]

Iron bundle.....not a steel type. The Gen 1 and Gen 2 in me questions the water type with this haha

[@jeronipuff]

the biggest downside of bundle is it not having a reliable strong water type move. giving it surf feels pretty unfair to how it was made.

[@Thrano]

Idk that moveset conversion is a bit busted. In Gen 1, it would have learned either Bubble or Water Gun, not both. The missing one would have been replaced with Tail Whip or Growl or Leer. Ice Beam would have definitely been Haze instead. But it is what it is. All the backports were overpowered for Gen 1 so far anyway (even if they had bad results).

[@Kosi_Revaya]

Popping in at Lorelei for commentary on 20:06 . Given you were forced to encounter Onix anyway, would KOing a single one have improved Lorelei feasibly? It would both put you over the DRT of 48, while not forfeiting your badge boosts during that Dewgong set-up. Coulda saved you the need for mimic this early. Tuning back in now.

[@TheShinyFeraligatr]

All of the Future Paradoxes have "Iron" in their name and none of them are part Steel, Scott, that's just how they work. Psywave's lowest damage roll is actually 0 damage! This causes a desynch glitch in link battles, which means the move is generally banned in gen 1.

[@misirtere9836]

Iron Treads. Iron Crown.

[@RandalfElVikingo]

Two of them are Steel type.

[@lindhartsen]

Sitting here wondering if this is a real Pokémon or not. Not keeping up with newer games doesn’t help.

[@ninjadude17]

It is actually

[@twilightjoltik3151]

In Gen 9 they made ancient and futuristic versions of existing pokemon called Paradox pokemon, a whole bunch of mons got them like Jigglypuff, Magneton, Hariyama, Tyranitar, and there’s even one that combines mega Gallade and Gardevoir into one genderbending robot. And Paradox Misdrevous especially has been terrorizing competitive.

[@DrDrao]

My favorite is the steel bug type, iron moth.

[@brendanboomhour7606]

It's real, pretty sure it also earned itself a ban in Gen 9 competitive too

[@TheShinyFeraligatr]

It's not just real, it got banned in singles because really fast ice types are a menace to society.

[@kylewagoner]

I know you're playing in 4x speed so decisions are made really fast but man, I was just like just knock out the wild Onix instead of running, level up to 48 (past a damage-rounding threshold), go into Lorelei at a higher level without the threat of leveling up mid-battle or just use Rare Candies before the fight. But that's why there are multiple playthroughs lol.

[@bitmen1296]

Scott, the gift that keeps on giving!

[@ThePiep]

Espathra was an excellent Metronome Only Pokemon. Iron Bundle blew it out of the water. It's decently bulky to allow enough rolls of Metronome in any given battle to get a decent move. Attack is high enough to be able to use physical moves in the early and mid game against most everything. Any neutral or effective special move was just immensely powerful. There were no trainers it struggled against beyond what I have come to expect from any Pokemon that only uses Metronome, and notably made short work of Koga, who graciously allowed me to Mimic Psychic off his first Venonat. In the end it beat Espathra by about 10-15 min in less than 4h, and, as a first, without reaching level 100. FIWB, and thank Arceus for Crabhammer in Gen 1

[@zerellix]

I had to look it up. I thought Iron Bundle was an april Fools Joke 😅 (but on Christmas Eve)

[@geofff.3343]

In regard to the Fearrow, Scott, that's such a freak thing. It's not like you're playing something like Final Fantasy I and you're in that one hallway in the Lich Dungeon whose job is to spawn a fight every step. I think you could eliminate that as an outlier.

[@Lumpusax]

Surf? Well.. whatever. Looking forward to Weedle and I will see you in 2 sec as well as tomorrow! :P

[@danklin8648]

Thank you for the Christmas present, and here I was thinking I wasn't getting anything.

[@nsneddon24]

Watching this on Christmas Day , a merry Christmas to you all!

[@icraigs9438]

Watching this in the background and my girlfriend walks by as you're saying, "Okay, look at my PP". Ruined the rest of the holidays 😭😭😭 Thank you.

[@Draydon_Longfellow]

The back sprite looks like a pregnant Trapinch

[@nbonasoro]

I think it's great that you are capping yourself to 2 or 3 runs for your mental health. I think there is only 1 exception where another attempt may put the Pokemon in first place in the rankings or if the Pokemon would beat its rival in a race.

[@rojachan]

I only know this pokemon from the Something About series, and i wasn't certain it wasn't some sort of joke that I didn't get the reference for in whichever vid it appeared in ...

[@tysonpestner]

You’re the man, Scott

[@an3582]

Speaking purely from my point of view... Do you think i ever gleaned any sort of structure as to which gen and version you were playing? I just saw "ooh, scott made a new video, is it old pokemon or new pokemon?“

[@TyroRNG]

A video is a video It's good regardless of the pokemon or generation

[@lavitzdies624]

Iron Bundle was the reason I chose Violet over Scarlet, what a great funny mon

[@lazyhippie6139]

This is one of the best back sprites you've made. It looks so janky and is 100% what Iron Byndle would have looked like if released then. It bothers me so much how so many of the paradox mons are called iron something and aren't part Steel. I don't really get SV.

[@juanchirino4900]

This is fine but I'm more interested in how good ole Delibird would do. Possible Level up set: Default - Present Level 10 - Peck Level 15 - Quick Attack Level 20 - Aurora Beam Level 25 - Drill Peck Level 30 - Ice Punch Level 35 - Agility Level 40 - Pay Day TMs/HMs: Bubble Beam because it learns Water Pulse but not Water Gun because it doesn't learn that and I think it would be neat to have something learn one of the water TMs in gen 1 but not the other. Ice Beam and Blizzard because it learns those moves as early as its debut gen. Body Slam, Take Down, Swift, Hyper Beam, Mimic, Rest, Double Team. Fly but not Surf because it never gets Surf. Flash because it gets Defog both moves play a similar role as HMs and both have been assigned the same HM number over the course of the series history. PS: Pay Day comes from an Event Delibird in gen 2. I put it as its final level up move because event Pokemon are meant to be special and also because that felt like the only fair way to incorporate the move. Happy holidays to you your wife and the team Scott. Daily videos have been a real treat.

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

Professor Turo is gonna have some 'splainin' to do once Oak gets his hands on him. 😂

[@brendanboomhour7606]

Bit hard to do though, he's kinda, ya know, dead, got mauled by a cyborg dragon

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

@brendanboomhour7606 Depends on whether RBY and SV take place at the same time or not.

[@1stCallipostle]

​@@shinigamimiroku3723 SV is near certainly further in the timeline. We know it's post-SwSh, and for all intents, RBY/RSE being the first events is pretty solid So being after anything that isn't them means it's likely later than them.

[@bananaspice1967]

I see a little oversight here, Iron Bundle does *not* get access to Surf. It is one of the few water types that doesn't.

[@Kier97]

Anxiously awaiting the Weedle video now

[@adventureoflinkmk2]

0:11 ooooo OCD Scott... nice

[@erickthomas6133]

The only piece of information I wish we had was an accumulation/guess-timation of how much time you lose through human error.

[@JKBrown-vv1yw]

You didn't give it access to Razor Wind!? You monster!

[@lawdactyl]

Merry Christmas Scott and Scott watchers.

[@adventureoflinkmk2]

14:27 perfect run ends here, F in the chat Press F to pay respects

[@masterthune]

I feel conflicted about surf squidgy just did a crystal version of iron bundle and it didnt get the hm for surf as it didnt get the tm 123 (surf) in gen 9. Love the video and the effort in make this rom hack; i cant help but feel that giving bundle surf was... Not a correct choice.

[@salamense6791]

Merry Christmas now one complaint about the movepool Iron Bundle should not learn Surf as it doesn't learn surf (tm123) in gen 9 and the strongest non Hydro Pump water move has 60 power.

[@dvillines26]

counterpoint: Iron Bundle should learn Surf because it's stupid that it doesn't, and 90's Game Freak would've given it Surf because the concept of balance didn't exist for them then.

[@CC-bn2ws]

Didn't even know this was a pokemon, but I haven't played any mainstream games in forever and never finish fan games as I get busy and never come back to them. So I checked out bulbapedia for it, then saw other iron versions. Then saw this after seeing what electric terrain was, pincurchin, how about a run using this? Might be a good challenge, doesn't evolve, mostly solid stats but hp isn't very good, and speed is a snails pace.

[@ChrisG667]

That Weedle video is gonna sting..

[@ShukakuTheCrazy1]

*poison sting

[@mmpsp693]

Thanks for the great video

[@chicken_person]

40:17 my holiday season has been a little rocky, since I finally caugt Covid (almost 5 years free...) and have been stuck in my room; but Daily December has been fantastic for giving me something to watch!

[@bitcoinmigo9785]

Shout-out to him and his team!!!! Merry Christmas 🎄🎁🎁🎉

[@naikyou]

I just noticed that I wasn't subbed yet after watching like 150+ of your videos. Whoops

[@kingbeerz7978]

You know, often I argue against power creep in Pokémon being much of a thing. Because they generally give a lot of good moves, abilities and other tools so that strong mons from older generations remain strong, and so that people can use their favourites. (If you want to see real egregious power creep check out Fire Emblem Heroes) Then gen 9 happened, and gamefreak was like “Screw balance and especially screw the well designed singles meta game designed by our fans who put far more love and thought into than we did.” Iron bundle here is a good example of that philosophy.

[@Dddduuummb]

U know a way to have made present a way more fun move would be to have it to also 1/5 chance to OHKo a pokemon. Given that most OHKo moves are 30 percent accurate, having a move that does variable damage, heals or insta-kills sounds balanced. It could even say something like “*pokemon* is on the naughty list.”🤣

[@rhayden866]

This is the first Pokemon I feel got assigned the wrong value for Special. I don't think Game Freak would give this Pokemon such high special in gen 1, there are plenty of Pokemon that got their special raised due to the split in gen 2 so I don't agree with just because it is primarily a special attacker it would have the higher one. At 510 Iron Bundle is the second highest stat total in gen 1, only behind Mewtwo. if it was at 434 (taking 60 sp def) then it would still be one of the higher base totals around where Starmie and Tentacruel are at (435) and would have been a more interesting playthrough imo.

[@bettyunicorn6132]

All ice types have their higher stat as their specail so no I think its fine

[@rhayden866]

@@bettyunicorn6132 Wouldn't it make more sense then for there to be one that has higher attack? Gen 1 had a ton of quirks where special pokemon had higher attack. My real issue is more that it's base total is higher than all other gen 1s other than mewtwo, do you think they would have Iron Bundle as the second strongest pokemon?

[@rhayden866]

@@bettyunicorn6132 And that isn't even true, Cloyster has higher attack so you were wrong anyways.

[@SourceOfBeing]

How about doing 2 or 3 runs with a pokemon, and then just theorising how much time could be saved through luckier RNG?

[@lenlimbo]

I'm kinda surprised one of the most busted mons in gen 9, and the text definition of powercreep, didn't manage tier S, to be honest. Now I wonder how Fluttermane and Iron Valiant would do in gen 9. Or Roaring Moon.

[@AdamEspersona]

HO HO HO, Merry Christmas! And boy, let’s see how much Iron Bundle can potentially steamroll the game because HOLY ARCEUS, those back port stats! I feel like it might easily make it to the S-Tier, if not high A-Tier! UPDATE: Huh, high A-Tier (after a few more redos). Not bad. But Weedle? Boy, that will be a nightmare to witness.

[@utopiapro007]

I guess now we need Iron Treads and Great Tusk in Crystal now...

[@sopadumacacoumadelicia5]

And since Scott did a Paradox Pokemon, I wonder if he is going to do VS videos with them and their counterparts. Like Iron Thorns vs Tyranitar

[@lazypaladin]

Imagine learning a HM move before the eradication of HM moves. _"Oh yeah, I'll teach Whirlpool-" _*_HAVE FUN WITH 3 MOVES FROM LEVEL 14!_*

[@1stCallipostle]

With the Pre Gen 5 EXP yields, you're never running a team of 6 without falling behind. You'll have 1 or 2 spaces for HM indentured servants every time

[@silver_was_found]

Ah yes, Iron Bumdle

[@BranRidire]

Oh, actually I asked for Iron Thorns this year. That jerk Santa tried to tell me pokemon weren't real...

[@sopadumacacoumadelicia5]

The Goldeen trainer was so close yet so far away at the same time

[@sopadumacacoumadelicia5]

I have high hopes for Iron Bundle, I hope that it's busted in this challenge as it is in gen 9

[@jakethelittlecat]

Does anyone else think that if Iron Bundle was invented in gen 1 that it would somehow learn tbunderbolt?

[@mikelim7514]

Actually,it is possible for psywave to do no damage at all😂 so you almost got the luckiest outcome

[@yodoni96]

The replacement for snow pouder shoudnt be aurora beam instead bubble??

[@rpgfanatic5477]

At 16:19 it's actually not the lowest possible damage roll, since it can do 0 damage instead... I guess "technically" 0 isn't damage though lol

[@ProfessorWFS]

W present

[@MasterPoucine]

if this think learn psychic he would be a S tier mon !

[@thelorddragon6902]

What happened to Weedle video? No offence but I'm looking forward to that more than this.

[@sQvQge]

Last Christmas, I gave you delibird. But the very next day, you trade him away. This year, to save me from tears, I’ll give you iron bundle.

[@banditrests]

Tbh, bundle would be a lot worse without freeze dry, and that’s not a signature move, it’s coverage is just kinda bad. You probably could have given it ice punch in that place since they’re both 75 bp but not sure it would matter.

[@psychoDon525]

I like that you're not stressing yourself out by doing a dozen heavily optimized runs. Honestly just doing your best, and then including a "here's how fast I think this Pokémon could do in a perfect run" kind of thing. We don't watch for your gameplay, we watch for your analysis and theorycrafting and storytelling. I'm also very not into the idea of making a tool that can play perfectly for you. The videos aren't as interesting if they end with "and here's a robot doing everything perfectly, and here's how fast it managed to go." Much more personal and fun if it's "here's my best attempt, and how fast I think it could be if someone dedicated more time to it

[@Caswa7]

Why does everyone pronounce it Deli-bird instead of delivered but with a b?

[@rooislangwtf]

Merry Christmas

[@InfernosReaper]

It bugs me that it looks metallic and has Iron in the name, but is ice/water instead of something with steel in it

[@marlysalt]

the blemish makes a good story