My problems with slingshot shooting Part II: The pouch-holding

[@tomgulding1774]

Hi, das mit dem Rechtsdrall war genau mein Problem! Danke für dein supergutes Video, du hast mir den Abend gerettet! Werde den hai-style gleich morgen ausprobieren 👍👍👍👍

[@fletscher6257]

Freut mich , danke dir und viel Erfolg.

[@theseconddarrin3788]

I may leave work early today - need to try this ASAP.

[@cliffordhallam3270]

Having exactly the same problem! Tried to solve by tilting my head so it’s directly over the pouch band line to see how the deviation was happening but no consistent evidence to show where I was going wrong. Tried various anchor points corresponding with bones in thumb lodged against indentations in skull to aid ease of repetition. Still no luck. Never gave much thought about your technique but very impressed with your results. Very many thanks for your advice 👍👍👍

[@k.o.skeeponshooting235]

What a great video! Very informative 👍🏻

[@emanigol64]

Also, consider the suggestion of Jack Koehler (from one of his two books): if you shoot right, open up your stance (move the left leg counter-clockwise, along with the right leg); if you shoot left, do the opposite, and close your stance (move the left foot and right foot clockwise). But the video and your solution are awesome.

[@SlingshotShooters]

As you are seeing pouch release is so important. Good video.

[@fletscher6257]

Yes, the whole system must fit.

[@buskingkarma2503]

Thanks for the subtitles! Your video was very useful for me,very interesting indeed! Thank you🙏👍❤🇬🇧

[@fletscher6257]

Thanks.

[@buskingkarma2503]

@@fletscher6257 have you ever tried a pinch pouch? It looks like you get a much smoother and better release with them, I think I may give them a try! 👍

[@fletscher6257]

@@buskingkarma2503 You are right. I bought pinch pouches with magnets a few days ago but haven't tried them yet. But I will do it soon. Also without magnet. I think that you can shoot much more constant and accurate with them.

[@junk3996]

excellent video! i just started shooting and i've been struggling with high right off shots. as a right hand pouch hold. far as i could tell everything i was doing was spot on, except of course the pouch hold. so i started to try to adjust my pouch holding and my shots were being wildly affected. this confirmed that this was the biggest factor on my accuracy, so i started searching for solutions. they were very hard to come by! however, i have concluded that my pinch grip between my thumb and pointer finger knuckle was creating a speedbump effect, pushing the shots high - and same result as yours pushing my shots right. trying to work on a pinch grip, pinching just the pouch on the edges of the steel shot produced SIGNIFICANTLY improved accuracy, but very very uncomfortable to hold. painful even (until i get used to it) but now seeing this video im going to try this technique! thank you for the detailed break down

[@fletscher6257]

Thank you, good luck with your attempts.

[@jimf1964]

Ok, so I know this is an old video, and you’ve probably sorted this all out, but for new people like me……. So I was having the exact same results with my aim. When I saw this, I jumped up and started to experiment. What I found during this is that it wasn’t my grip, but my hold. You mentioned that your hold on the slingshot was about 90deg, amd so was mine. But I angled the forks just a touch towards the target and I got it! My theory is that my hold point is a little farther in than my eye, so just like of your hold point is too high or too low it’ll affect the height, so will it being too far in our out. I don’t know why no one mentions this, but I went from hot or miss, to hitting like crazy. I also do find that holding closer to my knuckle, rather than mid finger helps too. Good grip, and none of that angular issue you mentioned. Thanks for sharing your problems, and solution efforts.

[@fletscher6257]

Slingshot shooting is very complex. Various factors affect the shooting result. Everyone has to find their own solution. Thanks for your tips.

[@jimf1964]

@@fletscher6257 Yes, of course there are differences and preferences for different people. We can only share our own tips in hopes it’ll help others. I shoot rifle, pistol, traditional bows, and now slingshots……I just keep getting smaller and smaller. 😢……so I know there are some things universal, and some individual. Hope you solved your issue!

[@stevetreat616]

This is a great video. Very helpful.

[@fletscher6257]

Thanks my friend.

[@forksandspoons7272]

Oh wow!!!! Thank you so much!! You and I have exactly the same shooting style and I have that exact same drift to the right. I've eliminated every other issue, other than release. I hadn't considered the ball following the Angle of my index finger. I'll be training your grip/solution from now on. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@fletscher6257]

Thank you. Maybe there is the solution for you 😀

[@JUDETOSIOU]

So how is it going so far?

[@JohanSumantri]

Wohooo...thanks for the troubleshoot brother. I will try it tomorrow

[@fletscher6257]

Thanks, yes, do it. I hope it will work.

[@nickmerix2900]

One thing i noticed is you are bending the thumb, try to keep it straight . You can also try holding the pouch thumb down , you avoid the speed bump effect to a large degree that way. Another tip is to shoot light bands and work your way up to heavier

[@fletscher6257]

Thank you for the tips. I had tried different hand, thumb and finger positions. But it all felt very unnatural. I get along well with the Hai-Style.

[@toke7560]

Maybe at last this is the answer to my problem. I always seem to snatch/jerk the release.

[@zwillenfink9729]

toll dargestellt, danke Dir Fletscher🙏 muss ich jetzt auch mal testen. eine passende Pouch hab ich mir schon besorgt, aber bis jetzt fehlte der Anstoß🙂👍

[@fletscher6257]

Danke dir, solltest du auf jeden Fall mal ausprobieren.

[@zwillenfink9729]

@@fletscher6257mache ich... welche Kugelgröße nutzt Du dafür?

[@fletscher6257]

@@zwillenfink9729 10mm bei einer Pouchbreite von 10mm.

[@slingshotbangladesh]

The explanation system is good.

[@fletscher6257]

Thanks, my friend!

[@alexl.9588]

👍🙂 .. wieder ein tolles, gut erklärendes Video! 👍👏 .. ich habe / hatte das Problem (ansatzweise 😉) dadurch gelöst, dass ich die Kugel jetzt ein bisschen weiter vorne halte (vor dem "Zeigefingerknick" .. Hai-Style geht, ist aber eine ziemliche Umstellung finde ich 🤔 .. und frameless geht bei mir aus irgendeinem unerfindlichen Grund im Hai-Style gar nicht (fiese "Gabeltreffer" 😩) .. freue mich auf weitere Videos! 😀

[@fletscher6257]

Danke dir. Hatte auch vieles durchprobiert, der Hai-Style passt für mich.

[@SandorFule]

Thank you, very useful video.

[@fletscher6257]

Thank you, I'm glad!

[@samcha-rc7525]

Gleiche Probleme mit der Trefferlage rechts hatte ich auch teiweise.Allerdings hab ich es durch das verbesserte ausloesen der Pouch weg bekommen. Koennte mir vorstellen, dass der Hai-Styl nur bei grossen Kugeln funktioniert. Werde es auf jeden Fall ausprobieren. Danke fuer's zeigen. 🙂👍

[@marcelrenehallare8619]

The release is ok but the steel ball bearings are to light for the band set that's why the impact into the right of aim. You have a problem with anchor point creating vertical grouping. At least you are consistent with windage. My impact is like yours, about 70mm lateral from the edge of my fork. I fixed it by putting a rubber sight on my slingshot. I hope this helps.

[@fletscher6257]

Thank you, there are certainly different ways to reach the target. With the Hai-style, I shoot centered and no longer have to correct.

[@rgilroy1909]

i've used both styles but never thought about flight pattern. thank you. I learned something new. I just sub'd to your channel

[@fletscher6257]

Thanks 👍

[@charlesdang2557]

Very interesting. Thanks for the video, my friend.

[@stoopid6656]

I have just discovered your channel after changing my anchor point and I have had the same issues you have - I've only just solved them for myself. I'd like to share what I discovered incase it could help someone. My shots always went to the right - no matter what i did. I shoot the Goblet Evo Field Pro from Catty Shack which is designed to shoot at an angle with a straight wrist, however I just can't shoot accurately doing that. I discovered if my shots go to the right it is because the forks are angled away from me towards the target. If my shots go left it is because the forks are angled towards me away from the target. If I do everything else correctly, adjusting the slingshot angle to my target is the only thing that fixed it for me - hopefully it could help someone else too

[@fletscher6257]

Thanks for your comment. I had also checked that in my search, but it was not my fault. That's how it is, one symptom and many possible causes.

[@andiedel]

Interessant, schönes Video mal wieder und anschauliche Grafiken... Interessant aber auch, wie verschieden Vorlieben und Anatomie so sein können... ich tue mich (noch) schwer mit dem Hai Style, trotz GZK Spezial-Pouches - die roten im Video mag ich übrigens auch sehr :) Jedenfalls: viele Grüße & schönen Sonntag noch 👋😎🤙 p.s.: mir fällt grad mal wieder ein, dass mein Release-Daumen steif ist - isser schon immer... hat Vor- und Nachteile, aber DAS werde ich jetzt mal hinsichtlich meiner Probleme mit dem Shanghai Stil untersuchen! Danke f.d. Hinweis also :)

[@fletscher6257]

Danke dir. Ja, jeder ist anders gebaut und muss seinen eigenen Stil finden.

[@BushcraftEurope]

You could just move your anchor point for a bit honestly. But if it works it works, at the end of the day

[@slingshotwarrrior8105]

Practice makes perfect bro!

[@fletscher6257]

Year, it's true.

[@slingshotwarrrior8105]

@@fletscher6257 I'm glad you agree!

[@ziemahadizi]

best info sharing and 👍good shots.

[@fletscher6257]

Thanks.

[@ujjalslingshots]

Nice video helpful sir😀👌

[@fletscher6257]

Thanks.

[@nanoo1579]

🎉🎉🎉

[@reinaldoking]

Great! “Slingshot at the bone”, my friend.®️👍🏽😃

[@fletscher6257]

Thanks, bro.

[@reinaldoking]

@@fletscher6257 you're welcome.

[@imrankabir1774]

Very good short ❤️❤️

[@fletscher6257]

Thanks.

[@gw..9730]

Thank you,today I shall try holding the ammo rather than the pouch

[@edwardgomez3633]

Try holding the pouch slightly in front of the ball, then intentionally let it slip to release.

[@MrLoios-pz9sk]

Wow probiere ich gleich morgen aus, hatte auch immer schwere Bänder weil ich dachte mehr Power aber alles flog am Ziel vorbei 0,55 ist bei mir Grenze sonst geht das gezittere los und die Kugel ins nirgendwo

[@fletscher6257]

Danke dir, viel Erfolg. Target-Shooter verwenden auch sehr leichte Bänder. Das hier war schon heftig: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHjZloZ8qt2ffKM

[@KnaxGaming]

Tolles Video, dein Kanal gefällt mir wirklich sehr! Auch das Video zum Thema Ankerpunkt hat mir persönlich sehr weitergeholfen. Dank dir schieße ich nun deutlich genauer. Eine Frage hätte ich. Du hast ja gesagt, dass du gerne schwere Bänder benutzt. Wie machst du das bei längeren Übungen? Ich schieße gerne mit etwas schwererer Munition (11mm), möchte aufgrund der Flugbahn aber auch 70m/s haben. Dann bin ich bei Zuggewichten von ca. 8-9kg, was bei längeren Zielübungen schon in den Fingerknochen schmerzt. Hast du dich einfach daran gewöhnt?

[@fletscher6257]

Hallo, in dem Video verwende ich eine Schleuder mit 10 kg Zuggewicht (22 Joule Geschoßenergie) und 15mm Stahlkugeln. Das geht dann schon in die Arme. Wenn ich merke, dass ich anfange zu zittern, mache ich einfach eine Pause. Ich mache auch 6x die Woche Krafttraining und 1x die Woche Extratraining für Unterarm- und Fingerkraft. Meistens verwende ich aber leichtere Bänder, da ist das Zielen und Treffen doch einfacher.

[@KnaxGaming]

@@fletscher6257 Danke für die Antwort! Mein Problem ist gar nicht die Kraft, sondern wirklich die Druckpunkte, wo die Schleuder in die Hand drückt, welche die Schleuder hält. Letztlich mache ich auch einfach eine Pause, sobald es anfängt, zu schmerzen. Ich bin aber noch ziemlich neu beim Schleudern und wollte wissen, ob sich die Hand daran mit der Zeit gewöhnt. Mit leichteren Zuggewichten und kleiner Munition übe ich auch gerne. Die 8mm kann man halt total entspannt auf gute Geschwindigkeiten bringen. Wie du selbst schon geschrieben hast, ist das Treffen damit dann deutlich einfacher. Aber wenn man gerne mit etwas schwererer Munition schießen will, kommt man natürlich nicht drumrum, genau das auch zu üben.

[@fletscher6257]

@@KnaxGaming Ach so, ne, damit habe ich kein Problem. Die ganz schweren Bänder shcieße ich auch mit der PPMG+ im Pinch-Grip.

[@hartmutbuntrock8775]

Top 👍

[@fletscher6257]

Danke dir.

[@ricardobspescacomestilingu5887]

Muito bom 👏👏👏👍👍

[@fletscher6257]

Thanks!