My reaction to Tesla Optimus Bot folding laundry (Ep. 748)

I share my thoughts on a video of Tesla's Optimus humanoid robot folding clothes and laundry.
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[@Cuda52774]

Great to see you Dave! We need you all the more now that Rob is gone!

[@GrantHodgsonWnNZ]

So would you say you are Optimus- tick?

[@19951998kc]

Nice word plAI

[@rogersol.youtube]

That was a Prime pun.

[@user-vw3hd4fr7x]

😂😂😂

[@edchandler9974]

🤦‍♂️😄

[@SeanAvena]

Bahahah

[@edwardwongiii2229]

I think that "tele-operating" the Teslabot to do things might be one of the ways to train its AI much like how the FSD in the cars is trained. Let us be amazed by how much dexterity the Teslabot's hardware has to date.

[@CyberDriveCentral]

Yes, I think that’s how they are training Optimus at the moment.

[@jaylewis9876]

It also separates hardware and software nicely. They probably have the software side gaming where it can iterate 1000s all day every day without hardware constraints

[@CyberDriveCentral]

@@jaylewis9876 Indeed. I also think that these bots will set up the road to AGI due to them so closely mimicking how a human interacts with its environment. With sensors it can “feel” the world and possibly higher level intelligence is emergent from functioning within a complex and chaotic environment with many possible outcomes of action or even inaction. The next few years are going to be fascinating. 🤨

[@cornelstamate2537]

if each robot is trained a skill thru end-to-end neural network method can the rest of the robots aquire each others skill ? can each skill be passed to the rest of the robots?

[@konrad3]

FSD: 10+ Years of training and still not done. How long do you want to use tele-operators for the bot?

[@fcv1967]

I own a small business where all of my employees fold clothes everyday.. Last year I was saying, in jest, that I want a Tesla bot to help my business, but now it looks like reality more and more.

[@jeffsteyn7174]

Yip you will get 1 robot and 1 human to control it😂

[@LMProduction]

@@jeffsteyn7174 Exactly (so far)

[@bigpun7544]

😆🤣😂

[@nickname8668]

Do you want to teleport are your bot?

[@jeffsteyn7174]

@@MORZA10 yes. 🤣

[@gerrysurban]

So refreshing to hear Dave again in a while. He just makes everything so easy to understand. I appreciate you Dave. Thank 🎉 you very much.

[@TomLoveman]

The ultimate test will be when the bot can fold a fitted sheet! It will take no time at all now for the AI to learn to recognize all the various pieces of clothing and then apply the proper folding method. Next will be deciding which pieces of clothing go on hangers. Sorting will also be easy since they've shown that already. Then there is how to sort stack and place the folded clothes in a basket. It gets trickier to get it to determine which clothes are which family member's so it can then deliver and put the clothes away in the proper dresser or closet. Nothing insurmountable though.

[@daviddennis5789]

But how will the bot handle that moment when it can't find the matching sock.....

[@G.K.Walker]

​@@daviddennis5789😂😂😂 0101001 system overload activate self destruct mode. 💥

[@frederickwelsh]

Tesla will thread a needle next. That shows more dexterity in the hands and vision. Threading a needle will require a better sense of feel in the fingers. I believe Tesla has several groups with different areas of responsibility on the Optimus Project. We might see videos of their output first. Balance and feet might be next.

[@woulfgw]

I think people overlook that this is one robot learning to fold clothes. When it figures that out, then 1 billion robots know how to fold clothes. If Tesla has 10 robots learning 10 tasks, then they all know 10 tasks. They could have the first 100 never doing the same task, then learning 99 other tasks in the time it takes to download. This all depends on the hardware first. If the hardware is capable, then rapid advancement is possible.

[@youtbe999]

The genius of Tesla robot design in this mode is that the human is actually able to teach the robot to use its hands.

[@focojeepr]

Being able to do laundry, cook, and clean will make this the greatest selling item of all time.

[@retiredbitjuggler3471]

Did anyone notice the bot, way in the back in the center of the shop, repeatedly (in a constant loop) making very tight turns in both directions? Looks like it was training to work in tight quarters without tripping on its own two feet. 😂😂😂

[@stephencrook6998]

Good observation!

[@georgelewis8831]

Even you will be surprised how fast the bot will be doing useful things on its own

[@edchandler9974]

The point about the practical safety threshold for Optimus vs FSD is key, and often overlooked.

[@jaylewis9876]

The first generation shouldn’t move whenever a human is in sight. It can do chores while everyone is at work and school. Perhaps an HOA could buy a few for the community and everyone picks when they get housecleaning

[@RogerM88]

Using a Tesla Bot for household application, is like hammering a nail with a laptop.

[@kurtchristie]

Really? Where would you start?

[@ericliu2628]

You can already see how useful folding clothes can be.

[@andresd6193]

I completely agree with Dave, hand surgery is one of the most complex surgeries because the hand is a very complex part of our bodies. So in order for an artificial being to approximate a human, after the intelligence in the brain, the hand would be the second requirement, don't underestimate the opposable thumb, it has given primates a huge advantage over other species.

[@chelseaandhobbes]

I wouldn’t cope with owning Tesla stock without Dave’s considered, insightful updates. Really appreciate you Dave ❤❤

[@hpongpong]

I agree with you Dave. A lot of people are comparing the Optimus Bot to FSD which is complete non-sense. If FSD fails a person can die so it is incredibly challenging to avoid a fatal collision 100% of the time. A bot drops an egg on the floor? Likely won't hurt anyone... it might even know how to clean it right up better than most of us. Even if the bot works 90% of the time it is a huge win. As for widespread FSD though, imo we won't be comfortable until at least 9 sigma (0.999999999999999999887) chance of never getting into a life-threatening crash.

[@RajDeelish]

The movements are smooth and the range of motion is very good. That said, I still think usable robots in this form factor is still a decade away.

[@jan1jan2jan]

Now that Rob is gone, you need to put out more videos - hope you know this! ;-)

[@my_RS4]

Tesla Davely 😀

[@SeeJaneGoTV]

Rob isn't gone. He said in his video that he still would put out videos. Just not everyday

[@johnmacri7440]

Agree miss Dave

[@409raul]

What happened to that guy?

[@my_RS4]

@@SeeJaneGoTV oh that's good news!! I thought Rob left us for good

[@philipadastra]

DAVE! We NEED your take on the current situation with the stock, Elon Musk and Tesla!

[@mbarr987]

Why?

[@DanaVastman]

Exactly! why? 😅 I love Dave's perspectives but he's spitballing and who the heck knows where the stock's going given all the daily FUD. We're both long and we know it'll go up in the end. This is just blather talk. Same thing with Elon.

[@Matzes]

Maybe Form an own opinion for once

[@tatata1543]

They don’t like to talk about Musk’s flaky behavior or the fact the stock is losing value. I see his tweet about wanting control caused a 2% fall yesterday.

[@Matzes]

@@tatata1543 2% lol. That's like background noise.

[@KSunMMA]

Fast Food restaurants need them, restaurants need them, distribution warehouses need them

[@rabidL3M0NS]

This will be great for the advancement of prosthetics as well

[@67buzzo]

The robot moves are very humans like , very fluid.

[@johannesdolch]

What really elevates the Tesla Robot above e.g. figure AI is that Tesla has already integrated everything they need to rapidly ramp production at a reasonable cost. This is where all the other companies will face major hurdles. Even if they Partner with the likes of Hyundai. Tesla knows hot to ramp production while keeping costs low.

[@edeovino2219]

The value that has to be delivered in order to sell a $30k robot to a consumer is immense. If you could instead make the robot for $30k and displace a worker in the factory that earns $100k... in an environment you can reduce edge cases and collateral interference... you can profit immediately. Why are people so amazed at the t shirt folding and not talking about the 4680 cells on the rear tables? This is how Optimus is going to be used first!

[@aaronjennings8385]

These robots might be useful in low gravity or environments that people might be terrified to enter. Like caves. Mars?

[@datamatters8]

re: FSD vs. Optimus --- Safety issue is certainly true. But as I see it the bigger operational difference is the uncontrolled / randomness of driving (other vehicles, pedestrians, animals, weather, road and lighting conditions, etc) vs. the much more limited and controlled environment of a factory. The bot is at a workstation doing a set of prescribed tasks. It has to deal with some unexpected situations outside its normal operating range but it can always respond by just safely stopping and signaling for attention. In the future a bot with more AGI can handle less controlled real world environments but the early usage in more limited, less demanding (compared to driving) environments has a huge TAM with a large ROI.

[@tubbums32]

Feeling cautiously Optimustic

[@CompleteAnimation]

The thumbnail for this video is gold. It's like a parody of those ridiculous clickbait thumbnails, but it gets it just wrong enough to let everyone know how self-aware it is.

[@erikmulder1969]

Great video! Dave, what do you think of this: if one Optimus robot is capable of assembling two new ones every day, and those two are then able to assemble two each the following day, etc. it doesn’t take many days to get to a million bots. As long as the part bins keep up…

[@ThomasTomiczek]

That is ignorant because it works around the issue. Assembling the robot may be a stupid one-hour job - the robot consists of 6 or so components (head, center, arms, legs), maybe 7 (hip and below). The real work is not the assembly - the real work is making the parts and - cough - you say "oh, as long as the part bins keep up".

[@neovxr]

Today I watched the Google warehouse bot that seemingly can cook, cut onion, and pack goods for delivery. So, they took up the hand competition, and already have a lot of good software to run it. Will be interesting to see the future unfolding.

[@I_dont_want_an_at]

Reacting to laundry getting folded. The internet has everything

[@krest5955]

Thanks for taking the time to do these vids. Already looking forward to the next one! 🤖

[@pauldaggett6759]

It may be incredible to see the rate of advancement in skill development this year. Since the bots operate with a common A.I. system, skills learned by each bot should enable the same functionality in all other bots. Essentially this seems to mean something like an exponential skills growth rate. If this occurs in actual practice the value and applicability of bots in the economy should advance rapidly!!

[@waymanharris1284]

A human motion/movements LLM would make this thing a beast!

[@ranig2848]

With Teleoperation Tesla can allow remote physical work - get paid for that word AND use the data collected to TRAIN Optimus. Similar to Tesla having customer pay for FSD and collect data for it, they can do the same to collect the dataset for Optimus. This can generate tons of money early on, collect data, fund the robots, research and training and allow Tesla to find tasks that are easy to make autonomous as part of the process and then take the remote workers out of the loop and move them to other tasks. It will be a bit like UpWork but for physical tasks. Anything from home chores to cooks at McDonals, to factory workers. The sky is the limit (or maybe not when Optimus is sent to Mars 😂)!

[@rudyromo]

Tesla should LEASE, not SELL Optimus.

[@AIvsHumanityy]

This was feed back was so unbiased. Thank you.

[@markmcdougal1199]

Yes, this was a hardware demonstration predominately, although it was mentioned that this was also training process. Not just the hands, but the movements of the wrist, shoulders, hips; the smoothness of the coordinated movements. I wish they had given more information about the individual controlling the robot, was the controller only using hand and arm sensor control, and the bot was autonomously doing the rest of the movements?

[@vicwigner]

Cutting edge robotic technology and we have it doing laundry 😂🤣

[@DiseasedKodak]

Great stuff Dave Lee! Appreciate the content as always!!

[@mrpaul5726]

Awesome super smooth Robotic Hardware, We ain't seen nothing yet, a Billon Robots are coming

[@weho_brian]

i cannot wait, one of the biggest isses we have is caregiving in America

[@MultiChuckleberry]

I want to see a Tesla Bot approach a piano, sit down and play some hot boogie woogie. That would be waaay cool.....

[@Joe44944]

Hey Dave! It's always great to see you, specially now that Rob's gone Thanks!

[@Iambarnie]

They couldn’t get Cyber truck out in time. They have zero chance of getting something this complex out. 2030 for a robot like this would be impressive

[@damianweiss217]

There are plenty of Short KZbin videos on how to fold clothes; both average way and unique or fancy ways. I use these videos myself. These videos are great, hope eventually bot can learn from KZbin videos.

[@rhuisjes02]

@Dave Lee: Good to see you are adressing the fact that it was tele-operated by a human instantly!

[@JosieWilliams-om5mu]

I love those robots.

[@Stone815]

They are improving faster than i expected.

[@CyberDriveCentral]

What some people don’t understand is that teleoperating the bot can be used to train it. It doesn’t take long before the bot can then just do the job after it has been shown like this. I think Optimus is using end to end neural nets?

[@christinearmington]

They’ll have to teach the robot the importance of using a cutting board when using knives 🔪

[@ElectricIguana]

The Tesla Daily channel is discontinued. Dave Lee to the rescue!!!

[@patl709]

The technology is looking very promising in terms of doing relatively basic and repetitive tasks. The potential TAM is huge but dependent on the cost of buying or renting a BOT. Assuming it’s reliable, and can be produced in large numbers, and, If it manages to be cheaper or even slightly more costly than hiring a human, it’s going to be a massive winner

[@ThomasTomiczek]

But remember the cost of a human is not just what you pay. Hiring, allocation of floor space (rest area, toilets), TRAINING - if you need another human, you start training again. A robot lives in a corner, does not need amenities, takes no time off. If it breaks it is easy to replace and scaling is trivial. Even at a slightly higher hourly rate this can be more efficient. And the target price is REALLY low.

[@Gargamel-n-Rudmilla]

Second to hands are our feet and toes. They provide exquist ballance and mobility. Just look at sports persons and atheletes and dancers but also mountaine climbers and constructtion workers.

[@ShinkaTV]

I've been assuming that Tesla would keep the bots in-house to increase margins, but now I'm wondering if it'll be the opposite. If they sell to people, rather than to factories, they would get tens of thousands of people training their household robots to do various things - all the while, the fleet would be developing dexterity and skills. Maybe the "factory bot" comes second the same way FSD came before robotaxi?

[@Mrbfgray]

Bot structural elements made of magnesium(see The Limiting Factor) and plastics--Lt weight, batt pack/heavy hardware mounted low, would make "tip over hazard" minimal.

[@cautiousoptimist]

I do the laundry at my house. It appears I'm not gonna lose my reputation as the best clothes folder in the country...:-)

[@CyberDriveCentral]

Optimus could become the ultimate machine that builds the machine. By replicating itself, Optimus will be the first machine capable of replacing many other machines / people in a multitude of tasks / roles. IMO of course.

[@Mojave4ever]

I can see a ton of immediate uses for tele control....and subsequent auntonous ability can fill other spaces.

[@ericdelevinquiere9902]

Moving along as expected, solving the basic 3 dimensional motions with precision at a moderate build price, that is indeed a serious achievement and will make this production ready. The compute part will follow and is way less committing and way less costly to adapt and modify (FSD).

[@skawtt6977]

Dave! Listen man. I’m sure you are aware that Rob is stopping Tesla Daily. You are going to HAVE to pick up the slack. I need an no nonsense report and you and Rob are both that. Please consider. Thanks 😊

[@chrisbakker9978]

Can't wait for the next one! Great vid Dave!

[@chengguanteo9080]

While I agree with your view on the importance of perfecting the hands. I feel like Tesla should put 10s if not hundreds of them to work in the factory doing simpler tasks. This will help them to see many of other reliable and quality issues before them final model.

[@murrygondwana7260]

Teleoperation is still extremely useful. Place one of these bots at the South Polar Station as their medic. Specialized doctors from all over the world would be able to operate the Bot remotely in times of emergencies at the station. Or put one on the ISS for the same purpose. Send the Bot outside to repair the station rather than put a human at risk.

[@tvgerbil1984]

The lags or interrupts in satellite communications may well kill your patient if the robotic surgeon has to be teleoperated by experts all over the world.

[@murrygondwana7260]

@@tvgerbil1984 Good thing the person who's building the robots know someone who has a global fleet of communication satellites.

[@jamesm.vanwinkle3282]

Build the hardware for Tesla factory use, just as FSD gets software upgrades the Bot will expand in its factory use. A prototype line is needed as hardware evaluation requires use, marginal cost per Bot is not high so build as many as can be used. Second step is to expand Bot use to suppliers. Third is to update the hardware based on experience, target various manufacture use cases. Then build for consumer.

[@konrad3]

So, the bot is tele-operated and fixed on a rope so that it doesn't fall over. Sounds awesome🙈

[@jpmcsweeney7156]

Dave, the day Optimus can assemble Optimus will be exciting! That day is coming sooner than later.

[@deepbluemark2454]

Thank you for sharing

[@darylfortney8081]

wondering why they didn't also cover the forearm actuators with sleek plastic same as the rest.

[@Jack.Waters]

Humans never remember the challenges they had as infants in simple tasks. Like grabbing a spoon and putting it in your mouth. Most that are criticizing Optimus have no real concept on what it takes. The world of full of nested if statements. Our minds process thousands daily. Sometimes on picking out a piece of fruit. You go in for a watermelon but see only small ones, so now you want an apple but there at no yellow ones so you decide to grab bananas. That’s a quad level nested if statement. Try explaining that to a computer. Remember “ Open Door, thru Door, close Door”. Opps you failed in your coding. What if door is locked and you have to find key? Land of Leisure Suit Larry.

[@LMProduction]

No, the point of Tesla making a robot isn't to make something that has "versitility and dexterity in terms of hardware", it's to show they can apply an advanced AI to a robot that make it do these things autonomously. We already have robot hardware that has the versitility and dexterity, so if this is all that Tesla does, then they haven't won anything, and barely have a market to sell too. What they have barely shown is that their robot has the AI capabilities. None of the videos explicitly show autonomy.

[@yaa-lala]

Thank you Dave

[@risingphoenix1484]

This is the first time Optimus has done something that is as impressive as Boston Dynamics.

[@MrRoadWorrier]

Yep, parkour is so useful in a factory setting, as we know 😁

[@fchau6019]

Wonderful! Thank you!

[@marcusoutdoors4999]

I think the Teslabots will definitely be on the production line by the summer.

[@szehui9841]

Good analysis, Dave.

[@steves2241]

Some Tesla Stock Facts: Today - Down 3% 1 Week - Down 8.6% 1 Month - Down 6.3% 3 Months - Down 17% Year to Date - Down 12.4% Since the 3:1 stock split at $300 in August of 2022, Tesla is down $87 a share, from $300 then to $213 today.

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

VERY INTERESTING ,🧐 DAVE🤗💚💚💚

[@rambo321]

thank you dave! good luck with everything

[@kevincrady2831]

Even as a telepresence avatar, Optimus could be quite useful.

[@tatata1543]

The video is a joke, this guy’s spin on it is hilarious.

[@frankallen3634]

Yeah Boston Dynamics is shaking in fear right now. Tesla can work at Chinese laundromats I guess.

[@JeromeDemers]

Check the right side of the a screen you can the human in on right table controlling it.

[@gansmaier3994]

The brain is the most important part

[@AmishK11]

Hey Dave, great video as always. you think you can get James dauma back to discuss bot progress based on what we have seen recently?

[@joel_ols]

thank you Dave...love all ur videos..!

[@bobholland9924]

He's building the bots because he's going to use them to build mars before man lands on the moon. That's a small army.

[@samplastik13]

I hope it will do it on its own by the next update

[@twin2uision703]

I would say it’s being controlled by an operator using a VR connection along with the gloves.

[@hanzcraftcz]

You can have 1 human operating 100 bots at the same time

[@jps99]

How long before the robots are building the Tesla cars and SpaceX rockets? Only a matter of time.

[@vicg5323]

Got my next laundry queen!

[@user-ll6wv9wp2u]

테슬라의 미래를 생각하면 항상 행복해요.😘

[@adamlax27]

3:52 Opitmustic haha.. hahahahaha

[@n2l2l]

in term of hardware you're right. Moves are veeery fluent/smooth. It is very rare to see in robotics even currently. Tesla is definetely ahead of other companies in this area. Optimus "feels human", and that.... "scares" me the most I think. We are talking about new achievements... but their output is out of our sight. The fact that someone is saying that it will be used for human good.... well.... gun could be also used to defense....

[@michaellatta]

Factory tasks are easy in many ways, so end of year seams good. For sale in 2025 seems about right.

[@CNT536]

for rent, not for sale

[@michaellatta]

@@CNT536 many expect that. We will have to see.

[@fredt7518]

The bit is only V2 … it won’t be used until V3 or V4 ..

[@bobholland9924]

You know somewhere down the road he's gonna have it perfected. He'll change the name Optimus prime. You know it's gonna happen .

[@johnpereztwo6059]

Learning trajectory is scary . Now is 6 years old . By end of the month .wow. think about it . They can even do wd lights off ! No aircon .