My Replacement Hoyt GMX 3 Riser and Axia Limbs Finally Arrived!

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Jake Kaminski

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@archerybob1 8 ай бұрын

I love this so much!! Simple tests that keep companies on their toes for their "premium" products

@edgerat 8 ай бұрын

As someone who has been historically put a lot of thought into the minutia of archery, it is so nice seeing just how technical you are about all of this. Thanks Jake!

@JakeKaminskiArchery 8 ай бұрын

Thanks! And thanks for the SuperThanks

@dodo9595 8 ай бұрын

Waiting for those black tiller bolts 🔥

@48JF 8 ай бұрын

Danke! Thank you so much 😉 so expensive parts need to get criticised public where it need to be. I planned to buy me some Axia for my Xceed riser, and have now a better knowledge to watch out for issues. ✌️🏹

@JakeKaminskiArchery 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the SuperThanks!

@Australian_Made 8 ай бұрын

THIS was a really useful video. Thank goodness for honest folks like Jake. Really in-depth and informative.

@Simmesty 8 ай бұрын

Hey Jake, Thanks for making these review video's. After your original video on the GMX-3 I checked my own riser and noticed it had the same "faults" that you mentioned. The stabilizer bushing aswel as some of the other bushings were off center, and in my case the top limb wouldn't align using 4 Beiter block. Atleast not unless i used 5 of the chims on one side to align the limb in the z axis. (as a side note the limb is not twisted as it does align perfectly fine on my Exeed riser) After mentioning these faults to my local supplier they were sceptical at first, but because one of the employees had also seen your video review I was able to warranty the riser.

@ujjawal..720 8 ай бұрын

Great job

@JakeKaminskiArchery 8 ай бұрын

Glad to hear they took care of you.

@michaelburke9414 8 ай бұрын

Video suggestion: cross dominance right-handedness and left eye dominance and how it affects aiming a recurve bow. Should you go left-handed instead or just change your technique.

@jonaslim8144 8 ай бұрын

A lot of us archery people, especially outside of the US, do not know how to inspect the gear we purchase from our suppliers. Most of the time we just take what we are given. I think you have an opportunity here to make content in this area. How to inspect, how and who to contact, and what is warrantable? This would be very beneficial to the community and make it harder for immoral merchants from scamming average archers.

@cavetroll 8 ай бұрын

This would be a beautiful idea for a video. A full kit inspection guide would be massively beneficial to everyone!

@typhoon2827 8 ай бұрын

Speak for yourself! 😂 Calipers, machine tools, surface tables, etc, all exist outside the US, you know!

@cavetroll 8 ай бұрын

@@typhoon2827 but of course 🤣 what we lack though is the experience of what to look for heh heh

@EdmunddelaRiviere 8 ай бұрын

Hey Jake , thanks for following up on this review. The mismatch you are seeing on the riser could be caused by the riser not being zeroed out the same when they flipped it over in the fixture, or the outside profile is not square to the side profile. I’d be willing to bet it’s how they are picking up zero, when they flipped in the fixture. It’s also possible, the riser may not have been seated well in the fixture after flipping it. Like you said it’s not a big deal.

@JakeKaminskiArchery 8 ай бұрын

Agree on all account however I’ve seen this exact same L/R shape difference on every GMX 3. So it’s a consistent issue. Thanks for the comment!

@jackish7158 8 ай бұрын

At the Vegas Shoot the engineer told me that they are dealing with a new subcontractor. The bows and limbs have been on back order because they are working on getting the manufacturing up to the high quality that is expected from Hoyt. Give them time to work it out and thanks for giving them the information.

@edgerat 8 ай бұрын

give them time to work out selling $800 risers and $2000 compounds that are built out of spec.

@yanglai524 8 ай бұрын

I can understand quality control issue with a sub, but Hoyt still has to inspect and accept or deny the delivery from their sub’s. You can’t just blame the sub for below par work and then accept and turn around and sell them to the public hoping that no one will notice. Is there no pride in the brand and products anymore?

@typhoon2827 8 ай бұрын

Didn't stop them pushing them out there. Fortunately for the consumer, Lancaster didn't check a top end product before sending it out to a youtuber (two time olympic silver medalist consumer hero). Epic fail by Hoyt and Lancaster. Should really have been up to the suppliers to call out the manufacturer's lack of QC, not the end user. I also wonder what the response would have been from Hoyt and Lancaster had it been Joe Schmoe not Jake Kaminski...

@edgerat 8 ай бұрын

@@typhoon2827 sounds like it took a fair amount of convincing from Jake as well, no good.

@raymondcheng9977 6 ай бұрын

Are the defects on the GMX 3 common? I am about to grab a used one, that was likely produced near release date- Just wondering if you have any insights on this. I wont be able to check bushing alignment until i get to my range since i shoot barebow style, but was hoping to get into oly style with this riser (i dont think i need 2 barebow setups).

@MKlukowski 8 ай бұрын

That uneven chamfer under the grip, even though not affecting performance, would bug the hell out of me. For that price I would expect a bit more precision especially from Hoyt.

@pokeninho9174 8 ай бұрын

Hi Jake, I love your content and I'm an archer. And I'm thinking about buying a win & win atf-x, but I don't know which limbs are good with it. Do you have a recommendation? Thanks.

@momo...justmomo6992 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Jake 👍👍

@sanguiche23 8 ай бұрын

Hi Jake, I wanted to ask if the combo of axia limbs with a formula xd is good, I really have been saving for a long time and I want to make sure I insure my purchase

@ujjawal..720 8 ай бұрын

Bro can you make video on Confidence and Competence . Can you suggest so additional books or important tip with will definitely helped a Archer to become win any kind of turnament (and bro you are really doing great job your video are really helpful for us and me ) 🇮🇳

@EricAlamangoTV 5 ай бұрын

I hope mine arrives with no bushing issues

@trevor8467 3 ай бұрын

how did yours come? possibly might pull the trigger on the gmx series 3

@lavatun 8 ай бұрын

Can you make those precision bolts in other colors?.. Ice blue would be cool..

@FPChris 8 ай бұрын

6:38 in the day and age of CNC that is unacceptable. If you are asking a premium then deliver a premium.

@amrazing33 8 ай бұрын

I think you overestimate its precision and tolerance

@recurvesm4386 8 ай бұрын

No, not at all. A hobbyist in their garage can do better than that with a cheap machine. Hoyt should have quality machines with skilled operators, given the time to work properly. For the price and “quality” of this riser, anything less just isn’t good enough. For the Hoyt name to mean anything, they have to put in the effort. This is them not even trying

@FPChris 8 ай бұрын

@@recurvesm4386 exactly.

@Australian_Made 8 ай бұрын

@@recurvesm4386 That's right !!!!!

@akioutsunomiya4343 7 ай бұрын

does this riser is for ilf series and how much does it cost to buy??

@typhoon2827 8 ай бұрын

Well done. Sounds like Hoyt were doing a Boeing.

@Katzekaze 8 ай бұрын

the moment I saw those little plastic dots I knew something might go wrong

@blackspeed69007 8 ай бұрын

I don't understand how Hoyt is still behing WinWin, MK, or even Fivics when it comes to their quality control. Now a riser or set of limbs in Australia are the same price: $1500... so $3k for a setup with the risk of warranty claim thay will take 6 months between shipping back etc..., there s really not much reason t9 buy Hoyt over here. I love my Xi and Velos set up, but I understand why all our top archers are moving to Win&Win...

@alessandrocomaschi8517 8 ай бұрын

Made in Italy, look how wonderful

@dracus6877 8 ай бұрын

I have the same issue with my xceed 25". I dont know if hoyt can help me.

@Waltham1892 8 ай бұрын

Next week I will be posting my latest update on my 20 year old Hoyt Helix riser and Sanlida X9 limbs. Stay tuned sports fans!

@edgerat 8 ай бұрын

fancy guy with the multiple angles!!! :)

@rogergardner6537 7 ай бұрын

Completely unnecessary, if you're talking to me, look at me 🙄

@David-th2ug 8 ай бұрын

For a high end company the quality control is pretty poor. I've only been shooting for a year but all the time I come across different things which I had never even considered. Who would have thought that there might such discrepancies? Now I know. Thankyou.

@mdem5059 8 ай бұрын

If you made those tiller bolts that worked for WNS (Motive FX, personally) risers, I'd snap them up so quick. :(

@trevor8467 3 ай бұрын

he has them now I think you have to check but he has a metric tiller bolt option

@mdem5059 3 ай бұрын

@@trevor8467 Oh! Thanks for the heads-up, I'll check it out!

@trevor8467 3 ай бұрын

@mdem5059 they fit sebastien flute and win and winn soo you may be in luck I think

@jasonochoochoski7442 8 ай бұрын

If this kind of deficiency is coming from a top notch bow maker, what can one expect from a middle of the road or lesser manufacturer?

@nieckdza1216 8 ай бұрын

I just bought a new GMX 3 and the extension plate only comes in two type, medium and high instead of three as normally supplied by Hoyt. Is it normal?

@lavatun 8 ай бұрын

Nope.. Someone messed up.. Better call the shop you got it from..

@hotbear9424 8 ай бұрын

Wonder if this happened only to GMX3, pity I don’t have the instrument to check my Formula X

@JakeKaminskiArchery 8 ай бұрын

Working on fixing that problem…

@ujjawal..720 8 ай бұрын

Thank you brother love from 🇮🇳❤

@yanglai524 8 ай бұрын

The center stab looks to be centered, but why is that part of the riser where the bushing is inserted not round? I also wonder if your riser got special treatment and curious on the current shipments to resellers. I saw one that was shipped about 3 weeks ago and still similar issue as your original

@yanglai524 8 ай бұрын

The current shipments look to be similar to yours. Centre stab bushing is center, but the 2 on the back of the riser are still off

@thormidthagahast8914 8 ай бұрын

Do a split screen with the other bow and this one together.

@nishantasarma574 8 ай бұрын

he already returned the other one

@thormidthagahast8914 8 ай бұрын

@@nishantasarma574 no kidding? Really?......take the previous video where he showed us the issues, edited with/into this video giving us a littoral side by side comparison. Or did he send the one and only copy of the video when he returned the bow do ya think?

@chengjiexu671 8 ай бұрын

I think all the High-end archery equipment, riser and limbs are overpriced, but their functionality, stability and quality of workmanship don't justify the price. For example, Hoyt's bows, I've been seeing problems with the gmx3 Stabilizer bushing not being centered, the Bolts on the new formular xi slipping, the Limbforks cracking, the white paint not being even, etc. And they often cost more than 1000 euros. This should not be a problem in such a price range. An archery enthusiast would have to spend more than 3,500 euros to get the set he or she wants. A car can be bought for this price in Europe.

@chrisbowman2030 8 ай бұрын

Well said! In my club i saw two Hoyt Satori risers were the Berger hole thread wasn't properly tapped, by now. So you can't screw in a plunger or an arrow rest, like a NAP Centerrest. Paint wasn't the best too. Same with twisted limbs. On my last Hoyt bow the paint was coming of the riser and i had stresslines forming on the limb. On my 1k € riser from the US paint is a problem too. The company even admitted to it. I coach and set up a lot of bows. I had far less problems with mid range equipment from China then with all this expensive stuff from the USA.

@chengjiexu671 8 ай бұрын

I agree with you a thousand times! I don't know where the pricing rules are for all this fancy gear. And they all leave the factory with some very cheap mistakes.@@chrisbowman2030

@francoiscauvin7431 7 ай бұрын

Since you are in Europe ,buy yourself a set of CV 2 from Border archery and you will find out what precision and excellent craftmanship means . And no other brands will beat you in speed .

@typhoon2827 8 ай бұрын

Where the word AXIA is mirrored on the limbs, is the mirror plane centred on the limb? On all the AXIAs I've seen, this logo is not centred. It isn't a problem at all other than seeming odd during bow alignment. But it suggests a lack of care during manufacture and not what I'd expect on what is already overpriced top end gear. A bit like the assymetric chamfer on the riser.

@vaazig 8 ай бұрын

Not planning on buying a Hoyt, but interesting video all the same.

@FPChris 8 ай бұрын

And not after hearing all of this.

@peternguyen1911 8 ай бұрын

#WarpedTour

@InFerrumVeritas 8 ай бұрын

I am still very interested in how this bow feels with a deep crawl (18m) vs minimal crawl (50m). I suspect that this bow is an incredible outdoor shooter, but is harder to tune for a deep crawl.