My 'smart drugs' nightmare - BBC News

[@infinitepaths]

I wrote my University dissertation in about 5 days. The only substance I was on was the pure fear of being found out as the lazy, procrastinating bastard I am.

[@gabrielorquera]

+Infinite Paths hahahaha your comment made my day! I felt like that a couple of weeks ago. I'm doing a Masters and had the same feeling, doing 3 long assignments and 4 exams the same week.

[@jorgepeterbarton]

+Infinite Paths Same with them probably. They are used to doing 30 mins of work a day, so just decide to work a 'full week'. They do a dissertation in 3 days....sure i know many who do that, they get a 3rd!

[@whiketurner6249]

+Infinite Paths I also do my work in bursts and am not so much lazy as an expert procrastinator.

[@infinitepaths]

WhIke Turner That's a good way of putting it. As Nassim Taleb said: "Procrastination is the soul rebelling against entrapment."

[@nobodynobody8861]

+Infinite Paths I'm using that thank you lol

[@BothHands1]

A "nightmare" experience means you got a headache, one mosquito bite, and had trouble sleeping for one night after taking a *wakefulness promoting agent* ?? If those are nightmares, then i must be living in literal hell.

[@technologyking9602]

what do you mean ?

[@codybrookehanson2346]

2 mosquito bites lol

[@iNeedVitamins]

Probably a report that was sponsored by rival pharmaceutical companies to drop their rising popularity , like the ones selling Attent/Adderall, Ritalin, Vyvanse and etc

[@Bipolanding]

Hahhaa yeah, me too

[@cate01a]

@@technologyking9602 she's saying that this person is comparing some small inconveniences and tiredness as being a nightmare. So following the reporters idealogy, she is then living in a literal hell, because her life is much worse than just being tired and inconvenienced.

[@Edbrad]

So he doesn't eat and drink (he admits he didn't make sure he ate and he said he was dehydrated), and is surprised he has headaches and fatigue at the end of the day? Um, did no one else suggest maybe this could be the reason?

[@googleg8650]

+Edbrad SHUSH you! this is the BBC and we need drama!

[@janemcfaddenmeep4199]

+rob meech 😀😀lol

[@pigknickers2975]

+Edbrad The crappy BBC always has to provide balance. Imagine the outcry if he said took drug, it worked, felt enhanced, and no noticeable sides. I would expect that on first use of a drug - it's called the 'honeymoon period'. But it wouldn't be wise to broadcast that message into peoples' homes.

[@EnergyOM]

+Edbrad Top Comment of yours. Never heard that Modafinil surpresses hunger or thirst. Either he overdosed way to high, had other stuff in his system or got a other substance. But sure blaming it on Modafinil, instead of his deficit of water in his system and enough food is easier...pfff.

[@EnergyOM]

Vinicius da silva I like the fact that it doesn't produce euphoria, because it diminish the cravings other stimulants can cause.

[@intricatic]

Modafinil is one of the most benign drugs I've ever taken. You almost don't even know you're on a drug at all. You just feel more alert and focused.

[@PHlophe]

ok so can you pop at the pharmacy and just buy some or its only tru prescription. i am interested in the loss of appetite side effect of it .

[@antman7673]

@@PHlophe That is a bad reason for it.

[@joannesmith1175]

If you feel like you're not on the drug then you should increase the dosage

[@monochromatic9601]

@@joannesmith1175 That sounds like terrible adivce.

[@joannesmith1175]

@@monochromatic9601 It worked for me

[@enricod2061]

*takes pill and water* *2 Seconds go by* "I can already feel the effects" haha yea bro I'm sure you can

[@valuetainer3437]

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!

[@ericlaforge9445]

He is noncence but its surprising how fast it acts. I take it before my morning shower and it start gradualy before i get out.I know when i breath better , feel lighter and happy feeling like i was 15 years old again.

[@lowkey4026]

@@ericlaforge9445 modafinil takes 2 hours to kick in. So what your feeling is placebo

[@tovahromanov7414]

Ummmm. Nope. Sorry buddy ...that is alllllllllll in your head!!

[@tovahromanov7414]

Lol, nope ya putz, blood brain barrier doesnt quite work like that with orals.🙄

[@henstar337]

"ExPeRiMeNt" with a sample group of 1 person and find that they react badly to it. Cutting edge science right here.

[@tovahromanov7414]

ROFLMAO! BBC at its finest. I bet they made him use his own credit card.

[@c8Lorraine1]

I’m been on the drug for 10 years. Modifinal works. I have narcolepsy, so I get the right drug from a legal prescription. I only take 2 instead of 4 which was prescribed. Two tablets is enough for me. But the script is for four so every month I get two boxes but use only one box.

[@c8Lorraine1]

Takes 2 hours to work, and keeps you awake up to 18 hours. I have original stuff on prescription. I only take 2 instead of 4 prescribed so I always have one box left over. It does keep you sharp. But you have to be smart to start if you want cognitive enhancement

[@nevaehlumiere8019]

I agree wholeheartedly with you! He didn't take his friends drug. He took a whole new shipment. And HE was the only one taking it! Did he eat ANYTHING while it was in his system? I feel weak if I don't eat while taking a legally prescribed amphetamine. No other time. If I skip a meal normally, I feel hungry but fine! This amphet makes me feel weak BEFORE I even feel hungry! I also HAVE to take melatonin & theonine to be able to sleep regardless if I take amphets or not. Melatonin is natural. He should have invested in it on the 2nd night.

[@MS-il3ht]

@@c8Lorraine1 I have ADHD. Do you think it would help me with attention regulation?

[@gregjohnellis]

Poor experimental design...one test subject, one test run, not blind, not placebo controlled.

[@pigknickers2975]

+Greg Ellis Otherwise known as entirely worthless science.

[@sonsofapollo4652]

+Greg Ellis Well, that is because every time they do a placebo controlled trial, it shows no benefit, so they do stuff like that instead.

[@keithlaham7593]

that's not a trial drug monafinil is a common drug. like adderall or Dexadrine...amphetamines

[@ingrid2040]

Greg Ellis not even sure its modafinil since its ordered online..

[@fakename5625]

Those are guidelines that the government want you to think

[@dm4859]

Modafinil has been a life changer for me. I had a major subdermal hematoma and then status epilepticus postoperative. Before Modafinil I would lay in bed and sleep all day with no motivation and couldn't function. When Modafinil was introduced, it woke up my brain and I felt normal again. I've been on it daily for years. I can feel the difference in about 20 to 30 min after I take it.

[@nonyabiz3874]

plzzzz try to get down off it b4 it turns into a nightmare!!!!

[@stellagyan541]

@@nonyabiz3874 why? What can go wrong?

[@nonyabiz3874]

@@stellagyan541 its just a stimulate like every other addicting drug out there you wanna be depended on a pill everyday to be happy and what "smarter" lol, so outta all the chems in the world thats the good one right? lol and who know the long term side effects and whats gonna happen when ya try to stop? but hey its all science right ? lol the world of science is ALL about money, 90% of the shit that gets published in the journal is backed by big pharma lol its all a joke!!!! research my young Jedi !!!

[@jasonbell5129]

Whats your daily dosage ? Im interested in using it

[@Marcus-wg5nc]

What’s your dosage? And are you prescribed , or in a state where’s it’s over the counter.

[@josephbanash4373]

Couldn't the 10% increase be due to the practice effect of repeating the same test twice? What they should've done was take 3 trials: 1 without Modafinil, 1 with Modafinil, and a placebo.

[@stuartmatthews91]

Wasn't exactly sound research. Looked more like an excuse to try em to me.

[@gsr97dude]

Joseph Banash you should do the first test with modafinil then the second without. If your first test is better than the second you know for sure it works. Second test is better then you know it doesn’t work. Both are the same more testing required.

[@josephbanash4373]

@@gsr97dude The placebo still would have been more conclusive. You cannot rule out any extraneous variables in the experiment so it sill might influence your results. With your method, you would still have plausible practice effects influencing the data. However this time it would be the opposite way.

[@johnparis2859]

lol I was prescribe that as an off the label ADHD medicine and it did absolutely nothing

[@alexanderj1988]

I was wondering the same exact thing.. 10% can be cause it's the 2nd time doing the same exact test

[@wawathulu5637]

Me and my homies are gonna go pop some medaphonil and do driveby algebra problems.

[@icisne7315]

Kyle Kaloi or you know you can study. It works much better and it's free. But hey I am just a tutor what do I know

[@jon...5324]

Phonzo Cisne whooosh

[@Oscar-lf9xc]

its modafinil

[@munna1878]

Medaphonil ?...amazing .

[@joyl2981]

Nah fam gotta do that trigonometric calculus

[@JMM4886]

We know one thing for sure, Modafinil does not increase gainz..

[@blackpeople7927]

+JMM4886 lol

[@Subs1338]

+JMM4886 Someone is insecure about their appearance I see :)

[@thcsparky]

it does actually make lifting weights easier and you are more awake so you're more strong, if you lift weights tired you can't do shit. kills your appetite tho so you have to be careful and make sure you eat.

[@SpacePellets]

I've tried Adrafinil and Modafinil for a year but in micro doses and they definitely improved my energy, concentration and thinking process, I was able to do tasks for hours with intense obsession and efficiency. But the side effects weren't good while on or coming down from them, I frequently became anti-social, high irritability, temporary insomnia, loss of apatite, fast beating heart, obsessive thoughts on tasks/goals at hand, and random mood swings, just felt like a different person or like a machine and I lost a lot of friends during that time. Black Coffee and exercise is already pretty effective at getting me to the productive state without any side effects, although not as intense and requires more effort on my part to get started.

[@followtheciaence]

It increases histamine and messes up a bunch of other stuff. modafinil and phenibut are both very dangerous "supplements" that you will find hyped across the internet. Try american ginseng tincture

[@millerscorner2]

The one I took that gave me super energy and better focus was Provigil. Sadly, my doctor says I don't need it anymore now that I am retired. Ha!

[@kpnslrree711]

Anti- social that's definitely true.... I feel the same after using for months.

[@TheBadGuy0987]

Try cocaine

[@elbison7992]

Amen!!!

[@gabrieltremblay3918]

"my productivity increase" still do biceps curls with his back

[@wezilla21]

Which means he's using too much weight

[@MrRooibos123]

Always better to do proper reps of a lower weight.

[@dustinmarksthe1]

Gabriel Tremblay “I felt my self like getting quicker”...

[@themurraypeeps5795]

Umm Technically bicep curls, usually work the biceps- bill burr

[@josephford7470]

probably in more shape than you?

[@mumulove]

"Nightmare"...you got a headache because you didnt eat food and you got bit by a bug.

[@rodrigolara6733]

Bastille lol

[@TheGreendabomb]

Because this fraudster never even took anything.

[@blackiesun]

I took it personally and at 200mg it did give me a headache when it started wearing off. I ate just fine as it's not. stimulant drug so it doesn't suppress appetite. I read many people experience the headaches and that's easily solved by lowering the dosage to 100mg (like I did) or drinking more water.

[@anon69669]

Lol facts

[@dankmheems290]

Headaches can be a side effect of Modafinil, drink some water and try not to get to jacked up. It's not a big deal. I've done it for months daily without any problems.

[@johndo8792]

Placebo is a hell of a drug.

[@italiagirl3091]

John Do Lmao

[@rogerlimoseth4790]

Placebos have a better track record than the actual drugs and no side effects.

[@EmceeIntricacy]

not even once

[@AdamBechtol]

aye, the trick is to get someone to give you one without you knowing, for something you think you need

[@incremental_failure]

Having tried different doses, I would not call this a wonder-drug at all. I get a dopamine rush when on it but the following days off it are a total disaster. Seems also that after stopping there's just disinterest in everything, depression sets in. So the only option is to be always on it or never on it. That said, it can break routine if you feel very stuck in a mentally demanding area.

[@jamescordova1796]

I feel the same way. While I take it I feel decent. But the next day is horrible. I can't speak as well as normal. The ideas don't come to me the same. And what's worse it seems like even after 2 weeks I can still feel a detox like feeling. A major depression and lack of dopamine. Not worth it to me.

[@incremental_failure]

@@jamescordova1796 Do half dose of 100mg for 3-4 days, so it would be worth it. I cannot do the full dose at all. I'll probably try quarter dose next time. I figure 200mg is for actual narcoleptics.

[@docducttape9270]

Bro, when you take the meds that button appears on your body. You are supposed to press it to activate your turbo! Duh, I thought everyone knew this. They really should include the instructions on the package. 😌

[@MG-kw1kb]

@Bazooka *LMFAO!!!* Dude ~ that's the best comment i've ever read on KZbin!! (My gut is actually in spasm from laughing) 😁👍

[@TheLiquidheat2643]

Hahahaha fuck my life it 2 early for this shit hahhahaahhaha turbo button

[@voshondelbridge2468]

😂

[@teleanusiteleanca6876]

Bazooka Joe I can't stop laughing......"that button appears on your body...." The gym guy... might sneeze too much cocaine. Is so popular in UK

[@waterdragon5418]

@ianjsutt LOL

[@SomethingSoOriginal]

BBC... You will never be Vice...

[@luuk1400]

Sick burn

[@rebelrevolution22]

hahahahaha thought the same

[@CuriousCritter17]

SomethingSoOriginal and that’s a good thing. Vice is hipster bullshit

[@elitesmoke6195]

J CMD Vice? Hipster? 😂😂😂. Made my day

[@kashu7691]

EliteSmoke 619 yes hipster

[@razerone49]

You went through all that trouble to do it scientifically yet it turned out to be the most un scientifically valid science test I’ve ever seen. Aside from the obvious (lack of a placebo/blind phase to the test), your stomach contents, what was consumed earlier and what was consumed while the medication was in your upper digestive tract can dramatically change the perceived effects of an oral medication. What bothers me is not that your experiment was poorly planned...it’s that someone with ADHD that’s considering switching to Modafinil as a safer alternative to Amphetamines will see this and be a lot less likely to do so based on the results you got from your half-assed test model.

[@mikelisteral7863]

sounds like these drugs just raise serotonin a bit. which would do the exact same thing

[@secullenable]

These kind of behavior studies are notoriously poorly controlled...you can take very little out of them TBH. A proper study would have been to do a multitude of different tasks on different days without or without the drug, over the course of a month maybe (every weekend). Of course, that is never done. The vast majority of behavioral research is not proper science.

[@maxmeier532]

I think the main problem with his test is, he has no idea whether that shit he took was even monadafil. Could be anything, he just bought something from somewhere. cant believe the bbc condones this.

[@SNAFU56]

I would argue that it represents 'real world' scenario to establish 'does it work' and modafinil used for ppl with narcolepsy and from my understanding works very differently to amphetamine based adhd medications like Ritalin. Most likely the neurotransmitter glutamate in combination with the others. Plus if a person with ADHD is thinking of switching from Conserta or Ritalin to Modafinil he/she is a idiot and should never been given access to the meds in the first place, go see your Psychiatrist or Doc - don't be stupid

[@grevin789]

they dont even do that much to the drugs the FDA approves!

[@JustinTheGrey]

This made me aware of and convinced me to look into trying modafinil. Thanks!

[@lilitulee]

I forget clickbait is a thing every now and then. But I was reminded

[@juseth2]

Even BBC does it apparently.

[@andreescu2013]

1 Find a person who never drunk coffee; 2 Ask them to drink a cup right before sleeping; 3 Are they feeling everything is ok? Good...ban coffee now. Modafinil works for 10-12 hrs instead of 1-2 hrs like coffee... that was the only difference I felt.

[@abhishekganesan7081]

L.I.B.E.R.T.A.R.I.A.N Honestly, I have felt the effects to last for a maximum of 6-7 hours tops.

[@pipsta]

Well I rarely drink coffee but when I do it has no noticeable effect.

[@liggerstuxin1]

I don't drink soda anymore and don't drink coffee either. I definitely notice a difference when I drink coffee. Definitely gives me a good feeling.

[@alexandrmartynov5281]

I feel more anxiety from caffeine than modafinil. Also caffeine affects heart much more. In some way caffeine is more dangerous.

[@vassinarain]

Alexandr Martynov 400 mg of caffeine (found in about 4 cups of espressos though it can vary depending on brand/shop) is considered safe for your body, and a fairly recent study has shown that drinking 4 cups per day is linked to reduced probability of death from all sources, and reduced probability of catching a few serious illnesses. I won't link you the study because I'm on my phone but it's easy to find on Google as it's pretty "famous", tonnes of media articles published on it that should link you the actual study (Google "4 cups of coffee good for you"). The study is statistical in nature and doesn't provide a biological/chemical answer as to why this is the case. Modafinil may very well be safer, but I'd be wary of calling it such as it is a fairly new substance which means long term effects haven't been studied/recorded. Caffeine however has been consumed for ages and most of the deaths linked to it are from people drinking obscene amounts through energy drinks (that also have shit tonnes of sugar and some other substances). Just because you can o.d on something doesn't mean it isn't safe, in fact most substances have an LD50, even substances that are considered extremely beneficial (example: vitamin C)

[@Awesomifier]

Limitless much...

[@haamizahmed5530]

NZT

[@OneMegaBuD]

+HXXMIZ 👍👍

[@dnbmuzik]

+Splendid this is about performance enhancing drugs not partying

[@parkourperson28]

+Splendid MDMA or X? Must be a tough choice... Seeing as how they are the same damn thing. mdma junkies on the internet are like console peasants bragging about being the best - fucking everywhere.

[@LucidDream]

+Awesome Technically what Bradley's character in that movie was experiencing is a drug that boosts something called brain-derived neurotrophic factor. It's a gene that pretty much instructs the production of a protein that is found in the connections of synapses. It helps with the growth of them and their repair. It regulates synaptic plasticity, which is important for learning and memory. Found in regions of the brain that control eating, drinking, and body weight. You can increase your BDNF levels naturally through things like exercising.

[@BobbyKrieger]

I take 200-600 MG daily for 2-4 weeks then nothing for a month then repeat Take in the morning, Drink a gallon of water, cut off caffeine after 11am and you’re good

[@chadington565]

in my opinion, this guy's side effects were simply from taking a stimulant that he wasn't used to. I had similar effects when starting ADHD medication, but it went away whenever my body got used to it. i think he really just shocked his system with this drug, he shouldn't have started with something so intense

[@N1ch0la5C00p3r]

Why didnt you have the pills tested to prove what was in the pill.

[@codystephens5939]

the pills are legit, i have bought them before from the same site and had them tested. they are what they say they are. you cannot buy them from that site now tho, they changed their domain so they didnt get in trouble. trust me they work. lol

[@rosiejl2798]

His clearly were adulterated with other shit such as caffeine (the diuretic effect of needing to pee and a headache) and who knows what else. If would definitely have been interesting to know what went into it.

[@codystephens5939]

@@rosiejl2798 alright so like i said i bought from that exact company before and the pee thing is probably bc he was drinking alot of water it makes you feel dry inside like not dehydrated but dry like a desert. getting a headache is from probably not eating and not sleeping much. they are what they say they are. they arent smart drug but caffeine almost has the same effect as this "wonder drug" lol

[@rosiejl2798]

I take modafinil for a sleep disorder and haven't experienced any increased thirst although side effects are going to vary. Also there is no way to garentee that he received an identical drug to you unless they are tested you cant know what else they may put in it or if there are differences between batches/suppliers.

[@mythesz4706]

@@codystephens5939 what site? Im interested

[@samuelsara9299]

Not even remotely useful or properly thought out research. You need to "blind" yourself to the drug (not know if you got the pill or placebo), try eating/drinking properly (stimulants, and that's what modafanil is at the end of the day, a stimulant), extend the test period, etc etc. Sorry, but this is pretty lazy "journalism." I'm not saying you have to do some ridiculously complicated drawn out thing, but this has just about zero control of variables, objectivity, and/or statistical relevance.

[@jackmiddleton2080]

+Samuel Sara I thought the same. We had no substantial evidence because all we could think about was whether or not they were experiencing placebo effects. Then I just wanted to blow my brains out when he did the computer test and performed better the second time. Humans typically perform tests better the second time. That is basically what beating a video game is all about. So again it was stupid. It would have been better if he did the test with the drug first and then came back the next day without the drug. But that is too much effort for the BBC I guess.

[@samuelsara9299]

+Jack Middleton Frustrating what passes for "journalism" and "research" nowadays. Can't tell exactly why it's happening, though the longer it goes on the greater the likelihood that people who "know better" are passing farther behind in the rearview mirror, and people newer to the scene will have never/rarely known better times, better material, and mediocrity will be the norm.

[@cockywatchman1976]

Additionally, who knows what was in the tablet he took. He didnt get it tested.

[@PeteS_1994]

+Matthew Collins It was the same brand as the person who said the smart drug works on him.

[@wtfquebec]

+Samuel Sara i got to admit that you have a good point! There was no scientific method behind his experiment.

[@chucklohn522]

For me, Modafinil is amazing. Non addictive. And I can take small amounts. After taking it for 3 days, I can complete a weeks worth of work and I don't need to take it the other days.

[@ninjanix01]

I tried to get some, but I don’t know if the website was a scam

[@kmancroox]

You didn't eat or drink regularly, headaches and dehydration were obviously exacerbated by Modafinil and other stimulants such as caffeine. Adjust your food and water intake according to your dosage, don't solely rely on the drugs. How can your mind and body perform at optimal levels without sufficient fluid and nutrients? Maybe if you're fasting... but fact is you're working around the clock, not eating and taking a potent nootropic. You're bound to feel like shit

[@johnphillips1165]

khanya s indeed!!!!

[@blackiesun]

Nootropics don't suppress appetite by the way. They're not stimulants. They work in a different way. I experienced the headache too at 200mg. After lowering the dosage to 100mg I didn't get one. Yes, drinking more water is a good way to avoid the headache. I've had a normal appetite with Modafinil and that's not a surprise as it's not Adderall or any stimulant.

[@mewhenimdrunknhigh5001]

@@blackiesun When I took Modafinil (took it about 5 times), I definitely did experience decreased appetite. But in general, "Nootropics do/don't do X" is way too broad a statement - (imo) "nootropic" is a term for any drug that improves concentration / motivation / other parameters of the brain. The term neither specifies mode of action nor the exact effects or side effects. Case in point: I'd consider the Adderall you mentioned a nootropic, and we seem to agree that that does decrease appetite

[@aktw1234]

@@blackiesun um that's just straight up wrong Modafinil is a stimulant.

[@devinmichaelroberts9954]

@@blackiesun It absolutely does moron

[@JavenarchX]

Really....professional journalism should have used prescription quality drugs...

[@xiiisensiiix3584]

Been taking Modafinil by 2 years. Chocked taking a pill.

[@spicoli9584]

where did you get it from do you know website

[@anthropicPanda]

@@spicoli9584 r/whoosh..

[@theway2742]

@@spicoli9584

[@cowboyjohnsontown]

Interesting stuff. As someone tapering off of a psychotropic drug (paxil), I've found it to be really helpful to try to educate myself about drugs. I've been learning about nootropics, adaptogens, etc. Drugs are wild. Just know, with all drugs, your body will eventually try to adapt to whatever you're giving it that temporary puts your system out of balance. The human body is always striving for homeostasis.

[@aprilhassell1747]

You need more likes. No one gets it. I learned hard way cold turkey off concerta. Still not able to work yet.

[@cowboyjohnsontown]

​@@aprilhassell1747I'm sorry to hear you're still struggling. I've met a number of people who have been affected by going off psych drugs cold turkey. The good news is that everyone I've met eventually recovers, it just takes time. I've heard that "protractive withdrawal" is a form of nerve damage. I don't know if that's true but it makes sense. Our CNS is so affected by psych drugs. And if you've ever had an incision or a burn, you know how slow it can take to heal from nerve damage. Exercise really helped me as did avoiding anything that triggered my CNS: alcohol, caffeine, too much sugar. But try to trust that in time, your body will adjust and heal. You got this.

[@chrismcnee9287]

I have had 17 concussions and a coma throughout my military career. When I retired I was prescribed Modofinil and Concerta (Ritalin) for myself the outcome has been incredible. I'm lucky but also prescribed under a Drs care.

[@amandaburleson2035]

@6One5 Got Down he has killed himself, sadly.

[@SobeCrunkMonster]

@6One5 Got Down he found out when his mom came to his house for “quality time”

[@commoq3764]

@6One5 Got Down I doubt he killed himself this guy making shit up

[@commoq3764]

@6One5 Got Down It’s the internet people have bizarre motives and do even more bizarre things

[@godofchaoskhorne5043]

I also use concerta / ritalin combine concerta with regular ritalin. And I'm thinking of asking for modafinil. Ritalin made such a massive difference in my quality of life man its insane. I don't take it on days I'm not doing anything but the difference is my motivation, my energy, my concentration is absurdly high. I wish I was diagnosed with ADHD earlier in life this stuff would have done so much good for a younger me

[@chrisbillington7781]

12:23 he's just on his first comedown, aw bless

[@jimscobie6646]

The first step to being smarter shouldn't be....giving a company in India your credit card info. Seems to have some irony.

[@Orthomonk]

James Scobie I got scammed by apple by giving my credit card info.

[@BothHands1]

LOL

[@tovahromanov7414]

naree lalam bahahahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ronniedoge7759]

Lmfao I was gonna say the same thing.

[@dss6838]

The data is still with American data banks... Lol

[@Nyarlathotep_Flagg]

"I don't really feel all that different." He says talking about 3x times faster than before, looking not even half as tired.

[@fugginchit1]

What goes up must come down.

[@victorshx]

I took this medicine daily to suppress my ADHD when I was young. It definitely makes me extremely focused in doing something, but it did not pull up my grades.

[@SobeCrunkMonster]

so are you saying that you would focus on unproductive tasks or that your IQ was too low to have decent grades? why were your grades not improved after gaining increased focus?

[@anonymouscanada7036]

Dude, the drug didnt cause those bumps on your body, they look like hives or bed bug bites, check your bed !

[@SudiptoPL]

and how do you know that?

[@Batya-Grace]

Anonymous Canada ....No, some people get rashes on certain nootropics. I did when trying them for the first time. As soon as I stopped, the rash went away within 24 hours. I'm still testing other kinds of nootropics though.

[@ShawaebTee]

It's histamine release, it's nothing... Take Loradtine and you won't have that issue

[@doctornobody611]

I once started drinking a soda called stevia instead of my usual doctor pepper and my whole body broke out in hives like his. Sometimes your body just isn't used to what your putting in it.

[@DrummerDucky]

Was prescribed Modafinil roughly 1,5 years ago to try and help with my chronic fatigue, and I ended up with massive bumps all over my body (especially the "meatier" parts). *P-S. If you're curious about the Chronic Fatigue, it's been alleviated since then; I just happened to have a very complex array of food intolerance weighing me down.

[@jessmaree5671]

I was prescribed Ritalin as a child and I'll never forget it. I couldn't sleep for days and i developed a phobia of germs. I couldnt stop cleaning. When my mum found me scrubbing the same pot for over an hour in the corner of the room rocking saying why wont it be clean! she took me off the meds asap

[@Soul_Alpha]

Yea it's never clean

[@rgCA_01123]

❤

[@Bagginsess]

willpower is a very undervalued concept now a days

[@nunyabizwack343]

KRYPTФEND much easier for these lazy people to use drugs as a crutch. this smart drug sounds suspiciously like crank

[@salajmi3619]

Nowadays not now a days... just swallowed one pill

[@noonecares200]

But that’s the point , we have created a culture where everyone has to go to 100 to be successful... how can everyone keep up ?

[@Bagginsess]

@@noonecares200 they can't compete, forcing people to burn out or cheat. I remember realizing there was no way to compete with students on adderall or who had parents abusively forcing them to study, and so I freed myself and went into the trades.

[@Bagginsess]

@@nunyabizwack343 adderal is one step away from meth..... and we give it to children.....

[@DecibelAlex]

I prefer coke

[@dayzplayer8539]

😂

[@Livelaughlove8585]

lol

[@leo959]

Absofuckenlutely yes I agree

[@hotsickle]

I'm a Pepsi man myself.

[@ashleybrook811]

Lol

[@TheNormExperience]

Has anyone ever studied the use of cognitive enhancers in people with Dementia or Alzheimer’s? I kept waiting for someone to talk about that and it seems strange that no one did

[@DarkRendition]

There are more effective drugs for that.

[@TheNormExperience]

@@DarkRendition ah, that makes sense. I would still be interested to see them used in tandem with the normal medications, however that would probably make it harder to study which was causing which effect (be it negative or positive). Thanks for answering!

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

I’ve heard Ambien might help for some strange reason. There is a Vice documentary about stroke patients who use ambien to regain cognition and people with horrible stutters are even able to talk normally after taking the drug.

[@austinno202]

yeah its called a psychotic break, just look at the streets of LA, PHX, Detroit..

[@austinno202]

@@DankMemes-xq2xm people with autism are positively affected by alcohol as well. oh people who are sick benefit from Opium too, but the US government doesn't actually want us to live well, now does it? they might stop legalizing the poisoning of our food and water if that were the case

[@subparinternet4014]

Havent tried Modafinil, but i've taken a few Racetrams, and Noopept. I enjoyed them thoroughly, made night shift welding a breeze.

[@MrCarlosVillasenor]

I love Modafinil, it does help me to get productive and stay like that for a good period of time, I don’t get headaches with it at all. It really helps me not to procrastinate with being on the phone and make calls. Also it helps with my mood and gets me motivated.

[@grantbaumetz7514]

I've taken nootropics before and i'm in a research rabbit hole looking for cognitive enhancements. Do you have to get a proscription to try modafinil? Can you order it safely online?

[@flyinghigh2701]

How do you get it without prescription?

[@kingmasonry]

did not see any nightmare there... actually more interested in modafinil now

[@jamescarter4836]

Jo Stevens same after that hahahaha

[@reeffeeder]

Yes, if this was his idea of a nightmare, I'd love to see him on a bad trip

[@nunyabizwack343]

Jo Gauthier people used to think cocaine was harmless... this stuff is described as being eerily similar to how meth is described. read the comments.

[@TheToothGoose]

"Am I worried? No because I don't tend to worry about things" 11:35 This guy is a true alpha

[@matiusclicarelli700]

True alpha dick head

[@joegrizzly999]

Or an idiot.

[@Lucky_Chase]

😂😭😂

[@kevindunne6251]

In Ireland we call them big dogs

[@jebby16]

He could simply be lying for the camera.

[@silviatiznado-smith2814]

Thank you for sharing your story and for your vulnerability. I pray you continue your healing process.

[@Falcodrin]

For anyone reading this be careful with your dosage especially if pairing with caffeine. My first time taking Moda I was stupid and misread the mg in a tablet. I took 2 400mg tablets and had about 150 mg of caffeine. That night I just became a completely different person and honestly it was bad. I was doing hard labor and just couldn't stop. I worked past the limits of my coworker who had more than my bodyweight on me in pure muscle. I worked through lunch and topped several productivity records. The worst part wasn't having to call out sick the next day when I woke up and couldn't move because of my back spasming, it was having felt so amazing while at work. I felt better than I ever had in energy and clarity. I dropped a 20 pound part and it was like being in the zone I saw it just slow down and hang there as I plucked it out of the air. It's horrifying how amazing I felt and how it crippled me for days after. Don't overdose and use with large amounts of caffeine (that amount of caffeine was too much for me without my l-theanine anyway)

[@Justthemow]

It takes 30 minutes before the body absorbs nutrients threw the stomach intestine route no way that guy felt it in 15 seconds

[@allahbless2278]

Except you can take it under the tongue and feel it in minutes. And even then there's a name for that effect where you can feel something in seconds if you've been a regular user of it

[@amandafrench5622]

What about a ulcer. Maybe it could work in 15 minutes if it gets in the bloodstream.. Just a guess.

[@stuartmatthews91]

Sublingual?

[@Justthemow]

stu matt under your tongue

[@jrtaylor8854]

Jump cut in editing

[@papaknuthson]

"Blanket ban over any drug with psychoactive effect" LOL that's ridiculous even coffee is psychoactive!

[@henryi2902]

Don't forget sugar.... or anything you can eat, drink, smoke or snort lol

[@beebusindustries6290]

'The law bans all such substances but exempts alcohol, tobacco or nicotine-based products, caffeine, food and drink, medicinal products and any drug that is already regulated under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971'

[@MrVibriocholerae]

comparing sugar to DMT lmao, the drugs have killed your brains...

[@stavrostziounis4756]

Sinisteo Soxilano We'll, dmt is actually good for you. And sugar on the other hand, not that good.

[@johnsanchez6935]

@@MrVibriocholerae Have you seen the hippos walking around Walmart no disrespect but seriously lord have mercy. Dmt is fine if used right I'm not into it just Marijuana mainly edibles don't need anything more intense personally. But sugar is worse then meth for some people.

[@dinkledankle]

Just wanted to say, I feel one of the biggest issues with people taking psychoactive anything (nootropics, street drugs, mental health drugs etc.) without guidance from a doctor (or trustworthy person if it's non-rx/street drugs), is we don't know exactly how the drugs will affect us or how to best deal with the psychological changes that occur while under the influence. If someone doesn't know how to cope and adapt (as opposed to resisting and working around) to what can be a very confusing/disorienting/disruptive psychological change, without guidance they're of course going to have a bad run, they have no idea what's going on.

[@millerscorner2]

Yep, everyone is different, and we all act differently to different drugs. That's why a one-person test means nothing.

[@Sc0pee]

Why are you saying all this shit about "street drugs" when some of them are much safer than the drugs your doctors order to you. THE LARGEST DRUG PROBLEM in the USA is prescription drugs.

[@anonyoutube825]

Very true. I had a high dosage of shrooms once and everything was fine for a while, then suddenly I felt completely out of control of my mind and it was a disaster for the next few hours. Was my own fault for having so much with only a few experiences before hand, but I wish we cultivated society around safe and smart usage of drugs rather than trying to scare people away (which is clearly not affective)

[@rotikithaali8959]

Sad part is that even healthcarers know nothing about drugs,its a prescription by pharmaceutical company infact

[@dr.wagner216]

body temp rising, thinking to fast, "I want to keep taking it"... meth

[@joeynye7262]

Lol

[@sg-or6wb]

can you help me how to bay this pills...

[@theville9885]

My thoughts exactly. Or discount pill from the movie Limitless but my money is on *methamphetamine*

[@Thirteen37]

@@MarchOnRome They really cant shit to U.K.? RIP

[@MarchOnRome]

Hi Lo Yeah man I’m pretty sure the UK banned the majority of them, I’m not 100% sure tho. Liftmode.com is good too. Phenibut is the best one imo, if you have anxiety it is life changing or if not, it’s just fun

[@OperationAndrewDocumentaries]

Would the BBC have published this article if he had found SMART DRUGS TO WORK? I feel like his conclusion was inevitable, because how can the BBC ever end up in a situation where they look as if they are advocating or supporting the use of drugs that are not fully understood. 😅

[@o.gcable8267]

i worked in the firm where they export modafinil...ill tell they sell one pill for 2 dollar while in india whole strip cost 2 dollar so one strip consist 10 pill so that makes 20 dollar a strip..and most of orders were from usa and uk

[@manileo460]

@@o.gcable8267 where in India

[@finals5525]

This was a “dollar menu” bbc video...not even... it’s like 1 nugget out of the 8 piece 1 dollar nugget deal at Burger King

[@BestRareR]

@@o.gcable8267 its sand's cost in Egypt its almost for free

[@wallyprichard7451]

The drug cartels/pharmaceutical industry are the biggest sponsors for the Mainstream Media. The pharm industry also despises all natural herbs/vitamins/smart drugs because they lose millions. Who would want prescription oxytocin when you can buy all natural kratom from your local smoke shop?

[@thomasgrey6309]

I've spent 40-years having gone through life and have NEVER taken drugs. This vid has me thinking I just might start with this. . .

[@interests1094]

Only drug I have ever taken is some viagra once. The viagra helps a bit not a lot.

[@PRS-qh5jf]

Weed is better starting point

[@Siziusmopul]

Sugar? Caffeine? Alcohol? Lol

[@trevorsewell9334]

I have M.E. Spent years being sedentary, not really getting anywhere. Moda brought me back. I now function everyday. Even with potential long term side effects its worth it for me.

[@rkrw576]

I am very skeptical that you can enhance performance of any kind over the long term without side effects or reducing your capacities later. The body is built and functions around a kind of equilibrium - if you push it too far in one direction, the costs mount in others. Look at steroids: Florence Joyner was able to run faster, but she died very young, probably because of the stresses that steroid use placed on her heart. This is an extreme example, of course, but it is always the case to some degree with drug abuse.

[@AureaPersona]

+Robert Crawford You are probably never going to get any kind of effect without side effects, but play your cards right and those side effects can be negligible.

[@manafzafar8580]

+AureaPersona stfu. Drugs mostly AT THE END.

[@manafzafar8580]

Win**

[@rkrw576]

Very interesting, commo. Thanks.

[@deardoggo]

So if you have watched the movie or to series "Limitless" there is a made up drug, like in this case, called NZT that enhance you brain fully. Meaning that you use 100% of your brain for about 24 hours before it wears off. Although that is all fiction, they still thought about the scientific logic behind it and eventually if you use the drug constantly it will eventually kill you. Now, it isn't like one day you just die of od if something. You go through a process of the side effects the drug has. When you use a pill like this your brain may function much better, but your body has to constantly keep up. So when the drug wears off, your body finally gets the chance to catch up, but in the process of that gets much more tired than usually and uses much more energy. If you constantly use the drug, every time it wears off, it basically will have to reach longer to keep up with the brain. And the brain will also be tired. But of course NZT is a much bigger enhancer that doesnt exist so ye..

[@silversharpie09]

There might not be any substance addiction but what people don’t think about is that there might be an addiction to the effects of the drug. Both equally dangerous

[@UltimateReaperStudio]

Modafinil cannot be processed correctly by some people if you have the wrong genome. It's true with most drugs. Some people just can't get the effects of specific drugs.

[@OneManTagTeam]

I get prescribed these on NHS for help with MS fatigue. Been on it, 200mg daily, for almost 4 years. It stopped having effect about a year ago and I’d still need a nap about 6-8 hours after taking the dose. I now have doubled the dosage to 400mg daily. I pop them usually between 6:30 and 7am and by 7:30, I’m ready for my day. I have a toddler so it was very tiring looking after him during lockdown, which is the reason why I felt 200mg didn’t work any longer. Since upping to 400mg, I have more energy to play with him, get chores done around the house, I’m more creative, less aggy & have better sleep at night, usually 6-7 hours. I’m even better at gaming with having faster reaction times and able to focus more. At the weekend, or on days where I have nothing planned or just chilling, I don’t take any so I’m not feeling unsettled like I need to do something all the time, and take CBD oil instead. I took 400mg at 6:50 this morning and can feel it kicking in already (7:20am) as I write this, hence the long reply!

[@nathanabo8297]

What is the brand name of Modafinil that the NHS prescribe?

[@OneManTagTeam]

@@nathanabo8297 I get tablets in a green and white box made by a company called Milpharm

[@albertgjohnston]

Any noticeable problems with your parotid (salivary) glands?

[@DJJimCowley]

what goes up, must come down. and that is true for every drug

[@firedashthepyrofox4124]

I smoke some weed and get stupid for 30 minutes, trust me its better than being smart

[@travv88]

nah it's lame and makes you lame.

[@30minutesLess]

Shawn two types of tragedies, not getting what you want and the other getting it

[@NotGilmore]

trav v you’re gay

[@beigela]

@@travv88just admit it man, you can't handle weed. only people lame to begin with would say that weed "makes" you lame. Not the herb homie, it's you.

[@pokeybloke7237]

beige LA 👍💥💫WORD. 👍🙏

[@Nldalie2772]

Let's work on micro-dosing LSD.. Now that'd be a smart drug.

[@areseabwaaaaa]

exactly!

[@eastervan1]

***** this is youtube. I dose at my place and meditate. I was just thinking about how weird it would be to be at work tripping.

[@5th_Interaction]

+Nldalie2772 silicon valley has that stuff going on already.

[@cobwebspinner]

+eastervan1 That is not a responsible thing to do. You would be fired in all likelihood unless you are self employed.

[@eastervan1]

cobwebspinner do you really think I was serious about going to work tripping my balls off? No...I don't even leave my house when I'm tripping. I turn off my lights and lay down and meditate. I have extremely profound experiences with DXM, which acts similar as DMT with me (yes, I've done DMT, which is difficult to get and DXM is legal where I am) and learn from my experiences. I don't do it with others, I don't go out into public. I stay isolated.

[@godofchaoskhorne5043]

I have ADHD and I was diagnosed very late. Drugs like ritalin would have made such a difference in my quality of life and my studies etc as a younger kid. I hate thst I wasn't diagnosed earlier. Ritalin was literally a life saver for me. It changed my life for the better in every conceivable way. Even after I was diagnosed my doctor was hesitant to prescribe me ritalin. And I don't understand why. I don't understand why they act like its such a big deal aside from the cardiovasculair issues thst might pop up it's insane to keep such a beneficial drug from people Esp those that really need it.

[@JarlBorg93]

Putting drugs into children is wrong, it should be illegal. You got lucky bud.

[@technofeeling2462]

I would rather take this: phenylpiracetam/noopept+aniracetam+cholin+caffein+l-theanine

[@RaluMariaRa]

@@technofeeling2462 what this combination do?

[@technofeeling2462]

@@RaluMariaRa damn just deleted my long answer. It changes very much. If you want to know Google it. Type "phenylpiracetam nootropic". If you want to start take l-theanin in combination with caffein. It is already mindblowing good to me. It puts me in a tunnel focus where is forget about the world and am able to concentrate. Cholin is the base for thinking processes and is especially needed in combination with phenylpiracetam/aniracetam(extremely powerful combination) This is not as powerful as Ritalin (I heard) but Ritalin can destroy you while this combination an actually make you more healthy. Another very very food supplement is the lionsmane mushroom

[@titoslounge1946]

Amphetamines are a neurotoxin and can affect the dopamine receptors in your brain. Your brain will change drastically with constant use of that drug.

[@Jacktibby2011]

the power of placebo

[@eggheadeinstein]

+Elessar Yávëtil Spoken like a coward too afraid to try it.

[@ejg1932]

It's really not at all 😂

[@Corey_Brandt]

Trust me when I say this, you can tell the difference between placebo and real effects when you know what the real thing is like. The first guy was for sure experiencing placebo but the reporter was experiencing real effects and side effects.

[@mariloudomingo2989]

Elessar Yávëtil .,

[@mariloudomingo2989]

EJG .,

[@MarcioSousa3]

The drug is not of a great worry to the authorities because , even tho it's users experience some kind of enhancement, there's almost no addiction and it's side effects suck and people just quit taking them. If you take those be prepared for irritability, being concentrated but grumpy at the same time, no sleep at night if you take them late, you start not enjoying social interactions, among others...if you take them be sure to take them really early in the day. This is made for narcolepsy, meaning is supposed to maintain you awake for longer.

[@iamthefiremanjj]

yah its a shitty ass drug

[@leader3185]

Quick question: why was the clip cut at 14:53 when the guy said "No, I havent gone from being a loser to being Mr. Successful..". He was about to complete his answer but the editing was done to take his words out of context and answer the question in the way the editor wanted to.....

[@m579064]

welcome to the bbc

[@nikolamarinkov2638]

Count of DO Yea,I noticed that too! Who knows,maybe it does work but they are waiting to pass some time,maybe a year,and then put a new name,make it different shape or collor and mix it with something even more stronger and sell it for twice a price,legaly ,without persciption or with,but still like every pill on the market you can get it in darkweb ,meaning ilegaly from somebody...

[@potatatas3335]

There's lots of potential reasons the editor cut it there. The guy could have gone off topic, or just said something like "so yeah" which many people do at the end of their sentence. Also possible the editor is twisting his answer to fit his narrative.

[@nikolamarinkov2638]

Maybe even they have or must hide something!?!?! Everything is possible!!! Aint it???

[@psychologyis]

that fly image is good

[@TheDudeAbidesYo]

If it wasn't a blind study then it is useless though.

[@Starsandfunk]

I experimented with this for the first time, taking 200mg of Modafinil first thing in the morning to see if it would help me study for an exam. This is what happened: - After 30mins to kick in, I experienced 4-5 hours of increased cognitive ability, I felt great and was able to retain far more information than I normally would; - After the 5 hour mark, my thoughts started to get 'foggy' and my concentration dipped below its usual level; - I became tired at around 16.00 and had to just rest for an hour; - For most of the day I was clenching my jaw, this got progressively worse throughout the day and continued into the night; - As the day progressed I also became more anxious and irritable, there seemed to be nothing I could do to calm myself; - I managed to get to sleep at 1am, woke up at 5am for 1.5 hours, then back to sleep again until 9am. I had sweated half my bodyweight overnight. Also my teeth hurt from grinding them in my sleep I really want this to work because the first 4-5 hours are great, but the side effects seem to outweigh the positives. I'd be interested to hear about the experiences of others, particularly if you had these issues and managed to overcome them?

[@eyeop3n1ng]

If that happened I wouldn’t do it again bro

[@liberaldriller9884]

You just perfectly described the general effects of taking speed. Nah, that's it in a nutshell really. Law of physics - what goes up, must come down. Stimulants are dirty, if you need a perk do some cardio and visit Starbucks!

[@markrice23]

I got that. 100mg was optimal but they're the only substance that will ever sit on my shelf.

[@watchwillsworld1011]

Starsandfunk - Just seen another honest input , thanks for this as I’m really looking into helping myself out of a dark pit at the moment in life , yet that aggression of mine is a problem I’m already trying to quell , and idk still about this yet . - Alhamdulilah

[@victoriahope8371]

If you sweat out half your body weight during a whole night you'd be Dead. What you had was cold sweats or fever sweats that are severe.

[@charliewilson9723]

They found the drug “LIMITLESS” I want it.

[@DRUNKENSYLEMASTER619]

It not quite that drug. Also on the show version people were dying.

[@umerzoyltd]

They are not for poor guys like us

[@RANDYFRANCISMMA]

Limitless was actually based on this drug. They apparently give it to fighter pilots as well

[@tovahromanov7414]

Randy_Francis you’re not wrong. Modafinil is used in many vocations where they have “switch on” ASAP. It’s not talked about nor admitted, but it happens. In some cases, depending on vocation and as long as said human has no illness, I’m fine with it. REAL Modafinil has minimal side effects and it WORKS. HELPS my narcolepsy heaps! I’ve lost 5 years of my life and without this, I’ll lose 5 more. There’s not “AZT” genius effects, trust me, I wish, but it does help me live a semi normal life. I’ll take it.. ANYTHING TO not go face down in mashed potatoes and gravy at Thanksgiving LOL.

[@garystinten9339]

@@DRUNKENSYLEMASTER619 yeah to show the "dangers" of drug use

[@luisrosal1322]

My experience was very similar. The difference is i bought Modafinil from a local authorized pharmacy. I tried about 5-6 days, all with the same results, no perceivable cognitive improvement of any type. A headache, loss of appetite and fogginess. I was really bummed because I was hoping it would work.

[@rhal2930]

Puts me to sleep.

[@Humbulla93]

@@rhal2930 any chance you have ADHD?

[@wilbo247]

Dis you feel it the first day?

[@bennyc409]

I think the thing that annoys me most about this is the idea that society as a whole should be doing more and working harder.

[@caelidonaldson9720]

i’m on armodafinil for narcolepsy but i’ve been on modafinil too and it’s pretty much the same- life changing.

[@stephanieramirez5905]

How so? Any bad side effects

[@simply_sara_69]

Boom! Right here with you

[@simply_sara_69]

@@stephanieramirez5905 none for me when used as prescribed... See my latest post above

[@jammydodger1449]

Repeat bias. If you take a test like that for the first time you obviously have experience in it when you try the second time so performance will increase also due to experience. Unfair experiment.

[@jammydodger1449]

He said he took the same test again. Even with different questions you get repeat bias because your brain gets used to the answer style. Citation: Studied psychology for two years.

[@derikdavis7420]

+James Jeffery It doesn't matter because the first test was just waking up his brain and getting the gears going. It's the same thing with school. when you go to your first class it feels like your brains off but as you go to more classes throughout the day your brain starts to run more efficiently

[@angry_moose94]

LOL well you obviously didn't learn much if you put "studied psychology for two years" as a source.

[@yoojinkim9853]

El Mehdi Seddougui hahahaha i agreee

[@rarerrac]

fear tactics

[@savedfaves]

Why because the results aren't what you'd like?

[@dagsparts]

+savedfaves Because it's not from an independent source... The bbd is government funded.. They do as they're told. If an independent source comes to the same conclusions i'll take it a bit more serious.

[@rarerrac]

***** regardless of our opinions it was a well made piece on an important topic nice work. Occasional headaches, dehydration and trouble sleeping sometimes are side effects i've noticed too, but they're very mild, for me at least. Did you try drinking anything caffeinated while you were on it? Has quite a potent synergy

[@dagsparts]

+Tervaification This is very true unfortunately, still if independent sources are coming to the same conclusions there must be some truth there.

[@highlonesomed]

+Brion Lebioda Man, people in power, govt or corporate, dream of a safe drug that would make people more productive. Modafinil sounds like creepy "Brave New World" stuff the way it's being pushed so much lately in the media. It's insanely creepy. I'm actually glad to see a reporter that's being honest about how he felt, instead of interviewing some moron in a suit who says it's Manna from Heaven and it lets him work EVEN MORE and be a super dad on top of it. Yeah, that's exactly what the world needs. An over-worked, joyless, anti-depressant dependent populace taking drugs to work even MORE. Like I said, it's fucking creepy. They even tied it into a movie promotion in one report I saw here in the US. Not exactly responsible reporting.

[@jaffesalad]

My God, how you suffered. The spot on your elbow was hard to even glimpse without crying some. Godspeed, little dude.

[@hunterarmstead7980]

Different people react differently to certain drugs. Modafinil wrecks my life, but my husband takes it every day with no issue. Everyone's biology is different.

[@paulnevins6071]

Like how some people can take coke speed some people can't I hate my heart racing

[@carmenvanessa4451]

How did it wreck your life??

[@jcschiefer8652]

I expected a lot more from a video by the BBC. This is amateur work at best.

[@JaredTG.]

Ive been taking modafanil for about 4 months now. Im not sure what this guy is talking about but all it does is make me not tired. Dont feel sped up, dont have more energy, just not tired. Its really not anything crazy at all if you've ever done any type of drugs this is kind of like a high dose of vitamin b. Maybe someone that is in really good shape with a high metabolism like the workout guy would feel more effects? Idk man but once again another video of people looking at drugs in the complete wrong way. People are weird man.

[@jljl8105]

Where can someone be able to purchase "Modafanil

[@jljl8105]

?

[@ScentSense]

Agreed lol. I got my first batch the other day, used it both mornings since then. The first day I was awake but moderately anxious with minimal side effects, the second day just gave me a splitting headache and not much else. My metabolism is absolutely killer (never been an ounce overweight and most drugs last for about half the time they're supposed to) as well, I didn't get the euphoria or speediness or any of that shit. I've done more than my share of Adderall and dabbled in methylphenidate and lisdexamfetamine (and other nameless high potency stims lol) as well - to me this was just like getting a good night's sleep.

[@blackiesun]

Yep, it's not a stimulant. It doesn't get you high, doesn't give you the jitters or suppress appetite. It's not speed.

[@blackiesun]

With a prescription here in the UK like I did for a legitimate condition. In the US it's instead a controlled drug so it's more tricky even. You can get the prodrug Adrafinil without a prescription though.

[@Eatmorepaper]

Researchers have known how modafinil works for a long time, and have known there are very few long term side effects. Modafanil is prescribed for narcolepsy and is supposed to be used daily, again with little to no side effects.

[@jeff5725]

You’re already smart enough and strong enough you just have to believe it

[@dhernandez712]

“Best smart drug: 8hrs of sleep a night, eat a balanced diet, and drink 8 glasses of water a day” - Just Boomer Things

[@tovahromanov7414]

Yes, in a perfect world but narcolepsy doesn’t allow that. I’m trying EVERYTHING (prescribed, not from an Indian website) to live a productive life and so far Modafinil has helped. Thank goodness 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@egeniojaramillo9048]

Yeah. Because everyone’s body’s and brain chemistry works just perfectly

[@moglee5998]

@@egeniojaramillo9048 Completely wrong. Everyone is born different.

[@moglee5998]

Doesn't have anything to do with information retention and cognitive skills

[@egeniojaramillo9048]

Aditya Korde you are an idiot. You clearly prove not everyone’s brains are perfect.

[@Allthatisnowandeverwillbe]

When your mind is turned off or on standby you become more aware of the present moment. The more you experience life in the present moment the more you know. People now think that the more you think the more you know when the opposite is true. You have to know and see the big picture but the more you experience you have, the more life you let in, the more open your mind the more you really know. The truth is the exact opposite of the way people think now, Search "Truth Contest" and read the top entry. This is truth you can and should check for yourself, truth the evidence says is true. The real truth will set you free.

[@CallusDnb]

+cobwebspinner lol

[@robanonymous557]

+cobwebspinner small minds seldom grasp large concepts. keep your mouth shut on things you can't understand.

[@CrazyCow264]

it called meditation and no one said the modafinil makes the opposite effet (think more then usual), so it may do that effect you are talking about because people say its makes you more concentrated.

[@Blaze6108]

"People now think that the more you think the more you know when the opposite is true" Neither is true, real knowledge comes from thinking applied to experience, in the appropriate way.

[@Blaze6108]

Jesse Milligan But conceptual understanding can only start from knowledge.

[@JarlBorg93]

Some people need to stop blaming other people/things for THEIR sick behaviour. Drugs are not bad, people are.

[@RezOutdoorEnt]

great video, should have had a pill tested to see if it was the real deal.

[@SebZoso]

I did modafinil for a few years. I drove professionally and it kept me awake and I smashed out the work and I could think and process at incredible speed, but you’ll suffer in the end if you abuse it. I have an addictive personality and I ended up taking up to 1000mg a day. Be careful with this stuff.

[@patconz8620]

1gram a day? Holy cow ?!! Currently taking , Ginseng with royal jelly and B-Complex + Gingko biloba + Bacopa Monnieri

[@christophernettles2468]

@@patconz8620 How is this working for you? I'm thinking about taking this combination, but I want to know if it's hurt you in anyway or helped you before I buy all of these.

[@patconz8620]

@@christophernettles2468 tbh, my heads feel light and full of energy! Before using this when its already 5 or after work I feel VERY tired but now it almost gone! Ps I combined it with exercise like 1 hour to 1 hour and 30mins :) Go for lions mane 8:1 extract ( im using capsule form)

[@christophernettles2468]

@@patconz8620 I just looked it up I see one from Nootropics! What are the other brands you use for your other herbal vitamins? Thanks for the update btw!✨🙌🏾

[@TheBobbymcd]

@@patconz8620 drinkm 2 litres of water ..exercise and you will save alot of money...throw thepillsin the bin when you do

[@EightBall]

the UK is going to ban alcohol, caffeine, nicotine etc ?

[@VovaPavlov1]

+Eight Ball UK better ban muslims

[@helgagerhaart1847]

+2die4uk well they r European like u notice... so they got rights to b here.. Muslims go back to desert...

[@SpaceShipDeathstar]

People always fail to comprehend that each brain and neurotransmitter system is different. The one who lacks dopamine might respond extremely well to a drug increasing dopamine levels. The one who already has like to much can induce disaster. I can say that because I am bipolar and I had lots of trial and error to find out a mood stabilizing medication that I and especially my brain can work with. That's also the same reason why there is so much different medications. Each one with a slightly different approach to which neurotransmitter to surpress and which one to stimulate.

[@axelxan]

I was looking for something like this, thanks BBC for advertisement :)

[@slowfoodnation2810]

I've Modafinil and I think it's one of few Nootropics that I feel really works. The first day I felt a pressure to my forehead as if my brain was working a lot. It kind of felt like it was trying to get through this fog barrier in my brain. The second day I could feel a difference in my focus. I was able to get a lot of work done, much more than usual. It feels almost like drinking coffee but without that caffeine crash that you usually get after a few hours.

[@TrillMurray]

Yeah I'm sure the pressure in your head was just from your brain growing

[@calebchan-nantais5308]

It's not a nootropic

[@illitaret8780]

Blood pressure

[@matt25675]

Modafinil is awful, I can never sleep after taking it

[@TrillMurray]

@An brain wrinkles are just negative space/open real estate for brain inflation. I agree lol

[@undeadreaper3x]

The website he used wasn't even secretive...

[@FudgeCakeShanker]

There's no need to make it a secret

[@piousalpha3733]

what is the name of that site then?

[@undeadreaper3x]

Pious alpha www.modafinilcat.com/

[@markjean9195]

Yingjie Zhao lol

[@monj5492]

For real lmaoooo it's over dramatizing

[@dolliVV]

Hi. Great docu, but my comment here is: you are brushing your teeth wrong with the electrical toothbrush. You're supposed to slowly move the brush from tooth to tooth, inside and outside. Also: for the headache (which can occur with slightly long term use of modafinil) one needs to take a choline supplement. Let's say after one week.

[@an0026]

I’ve taken this before (I suffer from mild narcolepsy) on top of that I have an under active thyroid so I’m always fatigued and exhausted. After being awake 10 hours in a day I feel like I’ve run a marathon and feel extremely sleepy. These do make a difference, definitely with excessive day time sleepiness. I felt my concentration was better, I hardly yawned and I felt energetic all day. The side effects were horribly though... I’d get crazy headaches, they’d make me want to throw up. I think look half the dose 100mg, and then half of that 50mg at gaps of every 2-5 days. For me even that small dose 1 in 5 days helped me incredibly but I stayed away because I don’t like the effects of medication in the long run.

[@giannirocco7492]

Just do some speedballs!

[@NorthernFella]

not biased at all!

[@rpgslayertv]

When I tried aniracetam, aside from the fact that I didn't have a choline source at the time (which is a big no with any acetycholine boosters since it means bad headaches), it worked fine, no hang over or anything, and it worked well and helped me pass my final. Haven't gotten around to testing anymore, since me and my family are super broke, however, my experience with nootropics (smart drugs) aside from that mistake that I knew I shouldn't make, but did anyways, my experience was good. Then again, everyones brain works differently so what helps one may hurt another.

[@stevengill1736]

Yes - the racetams like aniracetam are much more subtle, really in a different class than modafinil.

[@technofeeling2462]

@@stevengill1736 but if you combine some racetams with some other stuff it can be pretty good. Also racetams are actually good for you and repair the brain while modafinil has many side effects

[@precisiont5188]

The cra+ck do+wn of med+icines is mainly about b+ig ph+arma eliminating comp+etition. Bi+g phar+ma and govern+ments are basically the same.

[@katebabcock7556]

i have narcolepsy and have to take modafinil to stay awake. i'm in the US, and here a one month supply costs `$600 if you aren't diagnosed with narcolepsy or sleep apnea, despite there being numerous other illnesses that it could help. seeing people take it as a ~smart drug~ kind of angers me because that kind of non-medical use is definitely part of the reason why it's so hard for people who need it to get it.

[@nal8503]

I have a chronic disease called aging, for which I drink a lot of water, eat food, and walk around to combat it. Seeing people do those things for the taste or for fun angers me. In other words: You have no point. Whatever you perceive to be the "right" use case is irrelevant when other potential use cases emerge, or rather, always existed. Good luck with your narcolepsy though, hopefully there'll be a more efficient drug that has never been used for any other purpose than to treat narcolepsy. Otherwise you'd make some people very angry.

[@snehalsha6476]

In India it's just 4$ for 10 200mg pills.

[@nennyferfer2385]

I truly think the “problem” stems from the strict regulations that are consistently implemented. Add the money involved with all pharmaceutical companies and it’s clear to see... The more laws/rules/regulations you enforce, the more you’ll see/notice all those “breaking” the restrictions. Remove all the damn laws, regulations, etc... create educational experiences &/or studies and let people make their own choices. Good hell! There are plenty of case studies to research the mind blowing effects once everything is legalized and educational tools are readily available along with “centers” to help! Yes, we need more but there is substantial evidence to get us started in the right direction. The problem is the straying from the foundation of laws, etc. & how ridiculous the control they have is! Judging another’s choices isn’t the answer. When is everyone going to decide enough is enough with our current powers that be? Maybe then, everyone can start focusing on more important matters that have no relation to expectations with someone else’s character! I’m so sorry to hear how much your medical needs cost but I think the solution lies beyond the speculative assumptions of our family and friends actions. The only reason anything like this directly affects us is due to the rapid growth of believing that our freedoms are worth loosing in exchange for our security! Nothing should trump our personal rights and freedoms. Period! Hell, if everything wasn’t so damn regulated your meds wouldn’t be $600/month and you wouldn’t give two shits if someone else decides to use it for reasons outside your understanding of its use. Hopefully we get there....someday....

[@matulostyle]

@@nennyferfer2385 lol XD I usualy dont write comments but you should do something with your life XD have you read most of the comments? These people are so poor and stupid, they would sniff and inject rat poison, drink gassoline and so on XD these people are stupid as fuck willing to do anything to fucked up their lifes with any kind of tablets, any kind of drugs, they are just pussies looking for shortcuts to live "easier" life . They are just like kids, they need laws and regulations to keep them safe from themselfs, they will never grow up XD welcome to the 21th century XDDD

[@Rinas_diary623]

Me too, but I am in the UK. It is so difficult to get it prescribed and I am lucky that our healthcare is free. People use it for passing examinations with barely studying and so on but us with narcolepsy take it to stop ourselves falling asleep whilst walking across a road. It doesn't even help a massive amount. It only just takes the edge of the sleepiness most days... The side effects are gross, nausea, (I am lactose intolerant and so much medication contains lactose), constipation, reducing the pill's effectiveness etc. I wouldn't take it if I had a choice. People who use this without a proper medical reason, are so lazy and selfish.

[@brbtrg]

I had the same reaction to this drug. It didn't really work and only gave me side effects.

[@jadekaay]

Thanks for the advice BBC, I'll get some ordered now! ^^ Never would have heard of Spice without you guys..

[@MrRomanrin]

yeah where can we get it ?! im from EU. Spain :D lets buy some boxes

[@jhonwillson7578]

The wonder of what said further down is like Christmas ......

[@jambomarley3753]

I got loads

[@kinny369]

I know, their just say no campaign in the 80's introduced me to heroin! Knowing they're a propaganda machine I done the opposite. Ive married to the golden brown ever since; ive just had my third amputation due to injecting, but other than that its been great.

[@Vic9994546]

This is just increasing wakeness to increase concentration if you have anxiety this is not a good idea or if you have heart issues and a lot is still unknown like how it effects your organs specifically liver toxicity. Also the depression of dopamine after ceasing the drug and if the body becomes dependent. His test “study” is not at all reliable it’s a joke there’s no controlled study group or control of people getting placebo vs real treatment which can effect the results a lot basic statistics. Also the note of his headache and other issues is in line with dehydration which is a great highway to box your kidneys