My take on Arai Tour-X4, Shoei Hornet ADV, Klim Krios Pro

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Күн бұрын

After riding street helmets for many years, decided to give ADV helmets a go. Did some research and these three came on top of my wish list.

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@quadroclubpoland4379
@quadroclubpoland4379 4 жыл бұрын
The Best detailed review so far! Stay good, Thank You!
@7arkhwf
@7arkhwf 2 жыл бұрын
Sure is 👍
@Geshmaal
@Geshmaal 3 жыл бұрын
I’m an XL so it’s almost like reviewing different products, but the Arai Tour X4 is the most comfortable helmet I’ve worn just from the initial fit. Even though it’s quite heavy I almost forgot I was wearing it after not long at all.
@The4lbe
@The4lbe 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and footage sir! Thanks for all the info!
@sukhoi3747
@sukhoi3747 4 жыл бұрын
Great review Thanks for sharing. I also have the same 3 helmets but I’m wearing size L and I have Asian round head shape. The Shoei helmet narrow opening issue will be solved after break in. Comfort : Shoei > Arai > Klim Ventilation : Arai > Shoei > Klim Noise : Shoei > Arai > Klim Aerodynamic on highway : Shoei > Klim > Arai Quality : Arai > Shoei >>>> Klim (cheaply made, day and night difference from Shoei and Arai) Weight (All size L) : Shoei (1580g), Klim (1540g), Arai (1650g) (I was surprised that the klim helmet is not lighter at all due to its limited shell size, size L using the same shell size as XXXL that’s why the weight is so much more than the size M (there is only two shell size for KLIM : S to M and L to XXL))
@chandrajuliar
@chandrajuliar 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do you have Arai XD and Shoei Hornet ? Honestly I still confused to choose between Arai vs Shoei and considering Airoh Commander also. May you explain more about Arai vs Shoei ? I'm from Indonesia. Thank you
@sukhoi3747
@sukhoi3747 3 жыл бұрын
@@chandrajuliar Yes i have both at the moment. It depends on your riding style. If you always ride off-road then get the Arai because it has way better ventilation but noisier and less aerodynamic on high speed road cruising. Get Shoei if you ride on the road most of the time, it is quieter and more aerodynamic (less drag). Arai = 50 : 50 helmet, Shoei = 40: 60 (offroad:road) My heads feel more comfy in shoei. Shoei is lighter too.
@chandrajuliar
@chandrajuliar 3 жыл бұрын
@@sukhoi3747 what's your size ? Is it same size for shoei and arai ? Because for Airoh needs to upsize from our daily size. Thank you.
@sukhoi3747
@sukhoi3747 3 жыл бұрын
@@chandrajuliar I’m wearing size L. Warning: Online store from Europe, America, Australia only sell European and USA oval fit. Most of the Asians cannot fit in oval fit, we need Asian fit
@chandrajuliar
@chandrajuliar 3 жыл бұрын
@@sukhoi3747 shoei and arai same size L ? Arai more pressing your head than Shoei ? Where you bought, in Sgp ? I have contacted you dm Instagram .. need your advice 😅 thank you
@randersson3672
@randersson3672 3 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on headshape, Shoei is a tight fit, and it hurts for maybe 20-30 hours, after that it fits perfect. I'm rigth between small and medium, but prefer to spend some hours to have it fit just perfect so I buy small. Liked the Hornet so much I got a second one to match my other bike, and the new one that is not "molded" to my head yet, is not as quiet as the older one.
@rogermorse_
@rogermorse_ 3 жыл бұрын
My Neotec was horrible at first and my mouth was all squeezed in a kiss shape. But now it's perfect. Of course it's almost one year old the helmet now, but already after like a month if was fitting like a glove, no more squeezing on the cheeks. Needs more break in.
@ilprep630
@ilprep630 3 жыл бұрын
I was leaning toward the Arai. This review helped me decide. Thank you sir.
@ssmith954
@ssmith954 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. I have an Arai Tour X4 and am happy with it. Also liked the Shoei but it did not feel as comfortable for my head. Agree with you on the Klim -- build quality is bad, and they're asking top money for a made in China helmet. With Shoei and Arai you're getting super-high made in Japan quality and difference in look and feel compared to the Klim is very noticable.
@atvtinker01
@atvtinker01 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Arai XD4 and one complaint I have is the shield. The curve of the front tends to give some distortions when looking down. The Shoei and the Klim are flatter. Looking to try the Tourtech Adv next.
@madmill6060
@madmill6060 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your very thorough comparison review. Arai and Shoei just are not the same head shape. My first Arai was a late 80's Mamola F1 and I still use Arai to this day but even back then if you wore a Nolan you fit a Arai, if you wore a AGV you fit a Shoei. Never known anyone in my experience to be able to be comfortable with both. You mention distortion of the Arai visor, I've not noticed that in any other review. Does the addition of pin-lock make it any worse.
@Elskins
@Elskins Жыл бұрын
I think the distortion mainly affects shell size S. Because the visor is the same for all shell sizes. I didn't even try it with the pin-lock.
@madmill6060
@madmill6060 Жыл бұрын
@@Elskins Thanks for the reply, I will get the Arai, you've made my mind up. Cheers .
@xMG77MGx
@xMG77MGx Жыл бұрын
@@Elskins Maybe you have astigmatism and don't even know it. Go to an ophthalmologist and have it checked. Regards.
@kylereese74
@kylereese74 19 күн бұрын
Merci pour ce comparatif intéressant. Depuis le Arai Tour X5 est arrivé. Personnellement j'hésite entre le Arai Tour X5 pour ses qualités de fabrication et de confort et le Klim pour sa légèreté.
@Elskins
@Elskins 18 күн бұрын
I would wait for the new Klim X1 Alpha helmet and see if it's any good and then decide between this and Tour X5.
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review of these helmets. I have a Schuberth but it deforms the top of my head when I take it off. Like you mentioned about the Shoei, the Schuberth is very hard to Donn (put the helmet on) because the opening is kinda small and the helmet material is very hard, so I can't force it open over my ears easily. Otherwise the Schuberth is a great helmet, just not for me. I've had Shoei's in the past and really liked them. I might have to give the Hornet X2 a shot even though the Arai really catches my attention with the ability to crack the visor open. Decisions! lol
@philcooper8678
@philcooper8678 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, to the point, helped me to decide
@Nicht-Mein-Fachgebiet
@Nicht-Mein-Fachgebiet 11 ай бұрын
1:08 … you go to where you look to🎉 Deep sand and a heavy bike is a difficult combination ❤
@andreygeiserman1191
@andreygeiserman1191 3 жыл бұрын
best review in whole youtube, well done
@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449
@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 4 жыл бұрын
I own a Tourtech ADV , Airoh ADV & a Nishua Enduro Carbon Helmets ( same as the Klim Crios - but 500.00 AUS dollars cheaper . Sounds like to me no helmet makes you happy ( you may as well but a cheap $100.00 with all the money on those 3 ) All three of mine are VERY light - that’s why I got them - due to neck injury. The first was the Tourtech ADV , a light helmet, good vision, visor worked well in high speeds . But was quite noisy, no dropdown tinted internal visor and build quality quite poor for a 800.00 helmet. Plastic fitting garbage. But because it cost me a lot I stuck it out for 2 years ( until I crashed and stuffed it ) was only a small off and basically it fell to bits . The Airoh on the other hand is even lighter, way better built quality, quieter and has a drop down tinted visor . It’s not perfect seems from the left side a bit of noise ? anyway it cost me 625 in Australia and will keep it until I destroy it . The Nishua Enduro Carbon unfortunately only comes in black but other than that is similar in weight & comfort to the Airoh ADV . ( only reason I have it was needed a new helmet and took so long to get here from Germany had to buy the Airoh from a local bike shop .
@lvjurz
@lvjurz Жыл бұрын
Paldies par review, foršs salīdzinājums
@justinkase1360
@justinkase1360 4 жыл бұрын
A great review...but I'm left wanting a mixture of all 3. I really do want a light helmet but also small shell size...the search continues for the perfect helmet. Maybe Shoei for now, if Klim had a smaller shell size I might tolerate it. Shoei looks so slim, too bad it fits slim too...
@ianparkes2538
@ianparkes2538 Жыл бұрын
I chose the arai for same reasons. But Iam not experiencing the vision distortion you talk about . Maybe it’s the tinted visor you have , Iam using the clear one with pin lock
@hoanghot88
@hoanghot88 Жыл бұрын
I agree Klim's build quality is bad, but Klim is my choice because light weight, transition visor, lock easy and important is cooler than other
@dirkmertens6926
@dirkmertens6926 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. My ears hurt putting on (and off) the Shoei Hornet. Always need to wear a beanie. Strange also, to me the Shoei is more quite with the lid open than closed. Could be because of the buffeting on my bike ?
@Vjekoslav-vf3hr
@Vjekoslav-vf3hr 2 жыл бұрын
What are jackets models?
@mmmarv
@mmmarv 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please, please, please share you on bike cam setup?! Its amazing! Thanks for the thorough review! Love my xd4!
@Elskins
@Elskins 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a gopro Max 360 camera mounted on the bars or mirror. You can get any angle you want in post production, but it's a bit of a hustle to be honest and the video quality is quite poor.
@wfodave
@wfodave 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! I am ready to buy a new DS helmet and this was just what I needed. If the Arai fits my head, that’s the way I will go, since you said the distortion isn’t an issue on the larger sizes. I want super quiet and light weight, which of course conflict. I have the first gen Klim and I love the weight, but it’s noisy. Are you on advrider by any chance?
@Advcrazy
@Advcrazy 3 жыл бұрын
Great review and real world comparison!
@robkcra
@robkcra 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks much for a very insightful and costly analysis. One question: I have been using Transition prescription lens in my glasses for years and find that although they are everything you could wish them to be in direct line of sight sunshine, they are virtually useless inside of a car where they are shielded from that direct line of sight. Similar results even if the brim of a baseball cap interferes with line of sight. So, what has been your experience respecting the potential for the helmet visor to shield the face shield? Thanks again.
@Elskins
@Elskins 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't an issue while on the move, but was annoying a bit when I stopped for a break and took the helmet off and then when putting it back on again the face shield was not uniformly tinted, but with brighter and darker spots all over the place for about a minute and half. Both on Klim and Shoei.
@ГригорийЛапшин-н1ц
@ГригорийЛапшин-н1ц 3 жыл бұрын
You wear very cool grey jacket! What brand is it? I like brandless closing.
@Elskins
@Elskins 3 жыл бұрын
That's a Revit Ridge jacket.
@gregmarles1648
@gregmarles1648 2 жыл бұрын
@@Elskins Im on the fence between the Ridge and the Poseidon. The Ridge looks fantastic but I'm concerned about how well it ventilates? Is that center open zip effective for venting? Thank you
@Elskins
@Elskins 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregmarles1648 Yes, that center open zip flows some good air. The downside is that if it starts raining or you get cold and want to close the main center zipper, you need both hands to do that, so you can't do that while riding. Also needs to be mentioned, that we don't have the hottest summers, temps rarely go above 30* Celsius.
@gjd2883
@gjd2883 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Where can i get the bleu visor on the arai tour x4 ?
@Elskins
@Elskins 4 жыл бұрын
Gjd on ebay, got it from a seller in japan.
@renic72
@renic72 3 жыл бұрын
hello, of the three helmets, which one has the smallest outer shell? (the smallest externally). thank you (SIZE "M")
@Elskins
@Elskins 3 жыл бұрын
Can't comment on size M, but in S size - Shoei.
@retiredbiker
@retiredbiker 2 жыл бұрын
So, out of the three, which one is the one you grab first?
@Elskins
@Elskins 2 жыл бұрын
Arai and Klim are gone. Kept the Shoei.
@gerardocudich2982
@gerardocudich2982 4 жыл бұрын
I saw a video you did with the tourtech suspension on your 1250 are you still liking it ? I have a 1200 gs thinking about adding it but it's an expensive upgrade...are you happy with the 790 or is it over rated by ktm marketing
@Elskins
@Elskins 4 жыл бұрын
Gerardo Cudich Definitely the best upgrade for my GS.
@owg3ngstar
@owg3ngstar Жыл бұрын
Were all of the helmets the same size or did you have to go up a size for the Shoei because of the slim profile?
@Elskins
@Elskins Жыл бұрын
All were the same size, but I ended up ordering thinner padding for Shoei.
@owg3ngstar
@owg3ngstar Жыл бұрын
@@Elskins Thanks for the fast reply!
@flyingjeff1984
@flyingjeff1984 8 ай бұрын
@@Elskins Me too. I think it's their automatic revenue enhancement plan.
@aegeanadventure
@aegeanadventure Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@themosaito
@themosaito 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thanks!
@themosaito
@themosaito 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't help cringing when I watched you pick up your bike. You're going to really hurry. your back doing that....
@andhikawayan
@andhikawayan 4 жыл бұрын
How about shoei ventilation ? lot of review say hornet had a bad ventilation. I need my helmet cool due the climate in my country. Im wearing rx7x / corsair x. And it perform very well on ventilation.
@Elskins
@Elskins 4 жыл бұрын
Andhika Chandra I have Rx7 corsair in Pedrosa colours and the ventilation is better than Shoei ADV. But it’s street/racing helmet vs adventure helmet.
@andhikawayan
@andhikawayan 4 жыл бұрын
@@Elskins in same speed? Im considering buy hornet. But im unconfident bout the ventilation. I can go with arai tour cros with much more vent hole. But it look kinda out of date compare to hornet.
@chandrajuliar
@chandrajuliar 3 жыл бұрын
@@andhikawayan so what did you choose ? Saya jg pengen ambil shoei tp ragu. Pilihan sy arai vs shoei vs airoh ...
@andhikawayan
@andhikawayan 3 жыл бұрын
@@chandrajuliar klo sy blm nentukan pilihan. Tp klo mnrt banyak review arai tour cross lebih cocok. Ini masih nabung utk beli
@chandrajuliar
@chandrajuliar 3 жыл бұрын
@@andhikawayan masalahnya shoei susah masuk di indo barangnya dikit. Lbh banyak fans Arai makanya pasti reviewnya banyakan ke arai 😅
@sgtyut6305
@sgtyut6305 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've got a long oval head and the hornet fits me better than any other helmet I've tried. There is a tiny bit of room on the sides of the crown, but less than most other helmets that proclaim a medium oval head shape. Klim is hit or miss. I'm tired of companies building a name and then letting their quality deteriorate. My buddy's Krios got a busted snap on the chin strap after a couple months. It's disappointing to hear that one of the most expensive ADV helmets feels cheap. Two shell sizes is absolutely shameful. That kind of corner cutting should be reserved for entry level helmets. I've had a few pairs of Klim gloves and the fingers are often sewn on crooked, so the seams are on the pad of your finger. But, their Mojavi and Dakar pants have served me very well so far in a season of vigorous off-road riding with plenty of spills.
@SuperLubot
@SuperLubot 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best comparisons I've watched. I plan to get the Arai Tour X4 (via online purchase) as shown here and my headsize is XL but I feel that I should get it in 2xl because I'm afraid that the XL might press against my ears and hurt since it is a narrow oval in shape. What do you think?
@Elskins
@Elskins 3 жыл бұрын
It will eventually brake in after a few hours and feel looser. And you can always peel off some foam layer if it feels too snug. That’s what I like in Arai.
@SuperLubot
@SuperLubot 3 жыл бұрын
@@Elskins That is great! Never owned an Arai before. Ok, XL it is. Thanks for this valuable advice. Ride Safe!
@Asdfghjkl1234
@Asdfghjkl1234 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperLubot did you get the xL? I am going to buy one and am XL but most helmets hurt my ears when putting on it taking off
@SuperLubot
@SuperLubot 2 жыл бұрын
@@Asdfghjkl1234 Yup got the XL, good snug fit but wouldn't mind still going 2xl for more comfort.
@Asdfghjkl1234
@Asdfghjkl1234 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperLubot thank you, sir. Greetings from Durango Mexico 🇲🇽
@roadglide
@roadglide 3 жыл бұрын
Arai and Shoei are both high quality. No question, but heavy. Krios lightest. Does heavier weight or lightness translate into a safety benefit is the question. Is lighter better and easy, yet less safe? It maybe why Klim, an American company is not Snell certified but rather EU.
@davidb9323
@davidb9323 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Klim was manufactured in China?
@SteckerNico
@SteckerNico 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice review! Where did you get the mirrored visor for the Arai? I only found smoke tinted ones
@Elskins
@Elskins Жыл бұрын
on ebay from a seller in Japan.
@robsonenduro3316
@robsonenduro3316 4 жыл бұрын
excellent review!
@Em6726
@Em6726 Жыл бұрын
What camera mount is on the Shoei?
@Elskins
@Elskins Жыл бұрын
Sena 10C Evo
@pjansen2010
@pjansen2010 2 жыл бұрын
You sound like Kimi Räikkönen ;)
@Marcin-je9tm
@Marcin-je9tm 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, i have similar observations. Not always but often sounds similar to Kimi
@steve00alt70
@steve00alt70 3 жыл бұрын
Aw hornet isnt ece cert gonna get Arai then. I just checked the Shoei does meet ECE certified.
@ZsoltBoda
@ZsoltBoda 4 жыл бұрын
great review, thx!
@rogermorse_
@rogermorse_ 3 жыл бұрын
What you didn't really show is how comfortable is the highway speed and head turning. I like the Shoei but it almost looks like a road helmet. Without the visor it would be perfect on a road bike or sport tourer, but doesn't feel very much off road. The Arai is more of a bit of both but if I understood correctly from other reviews, is worse for the highway compared to SHOEI and has a lot of head twisting if you look to the side at high speeds.
@Elskins
@Elskins 3 жыл бұрын
All of them will have a head drag if you start twisting your head. Nothing criminal, but it’s there. Can’t cheat the aerodynamics. I would love to keep Arai, always been an Arai fanboy, but I think this particular model looks outdated in 2021. And that vision distortion is no go for me.
@impact0r
@impact0r 2 жыл бұрын
@@Elskins Is the vision distortion present in both tinted and transparent visor?
@Elskins
@Elskins 2 жыл бұрын
@@impact0r more pronounced in tinted but also present in clear visor.
@mikehagan4320
@mikehagan4320 2 жыл бұрын
Does Volume cost extra? I would have liked to watch your video but there is too little volume.
@Championhelmets
@Championhelmets 6 ай бұрын
Good helmet review
@롱웨이다운
@롱웨이다운 2 жыл бұрын
When the shield ratchet wears out, the shield closes automatically.
@BarbaryStudio
@BarbaryStudio 4 жыл бұрын
what i understand from this video is that the klim is shit and that the array xd4 the best choice is.
@thalisblangidis8577
@thalisblangidis8577 4 жыл бұрын
I have the KLIM Krios Pro and I wouldn’t say it is shit. I agree, with the video, that it is quite big for small heads like mine. It looks quite disproportional when is worn. I would disagree that it is not good quality though. I think people take it as average quality because it is light. I would say that it is better than cheap/average helmets, but I agree that it may not be up to Arai and Shoei standards. I would say also that the ventilation is quite good, the peripheral vision fantastic and you can wear it with the peak in highway speeds without issues. I don’t have issues with the visor either as it stays open without problem (And there is a way to tight or loose the mechanism as well), and the transitions visor is really really cool and useful. Finally I must mention that recently I had an accident where this helmet kept me safe and the company honour the 5 year warranty and product replacement without give me any trouble (I just had to fill some forms and that’s it).
@alpap1980
@alpap1980 4 жыл бұрын
Which brand is the jacket? looks like klim.
@Elskins
@Elskins 4 жыл бұрын
Revit
@alpap1980
@alpap1980 4 жыл бұрын
@@Elskins thank you. which model? I mean the light grey one.
@Elskins
@Elskins 4 жыл бұрын
@@alpap1980 it’s called Revit Ridge GTX
@jweavejo1
@jweavejo1 8 ай бұрын
The Klim Krios Pro is a $800 helmet after taxes. You would expect perfection in all aspects and it's almost there BUT the visor will NOT stay where you place it. Open it up a few notches for extra air, first little dip or bump in the road and SLAM down it comes! I love everything about this helmet except the hinge plates. They are very cheaply made. It makes me wonder if anyone that actually rides tests them?? It is a $800 helmet WT Actual F?!
@vgstb
@vgstb 26 күн бұрын
The Klim Krios Pro is the same helmet as the Nishua Enduro Carbon helmet, except for the price, the Nishua is about 300 to 400 USD cheaper for exactly the same (except shell colors, the Klim comes in 14 colors, the Nishua comes in 3).
@ericwilliams626
@ericwilliams626 Жыл бұрын
Save your money and get a Bell MX-9 Adventure, adjust the padding to your liking and be done with it. Their helmets are always in stock and they have an assortment of colors and they don't punish you on price for actually wanting a multicolor helmet. Stick with Bell. After so much searching I came back to my original with a future purchase of the same helmet in a different color. In the mean time I bought two shields which can be interchangeable with the upcoming helmet, all very affordable.
@Samuel-vm7hn
@Samuel-vm7hn Жыл бұрын
their helmets are round as fuck and just doesn't fit me, i wish it would have worked.
@tapiastudios
@tapiastudios 4 жыл бұрын
Did you film this video in Latvia?
@Elskins
@Elskins 4 жыл бұрын
I did, yes.
@josephxanthopoulos
@josephxanthopoulos Жыл бұрын
light weight and visor type............. Klim wins. All three are doing good job if S**t happens on mountain ...........
@navstar52
@navstar52 2 жыл бұрын
Klim is every bit as good if not better than both
@karstenlund-tiger900bonded2
@karstenlund-tiger900bonded2 2 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with you as I tried the Klim over a weekend. Bad fit (for my head) noisy, visor to flimsy and uncomfy. I went with the Arai as it has the best fit for me and super comfy and the build quality is second to none and definately superior to Klim
@no_special_person
@no_special_person Жыл бұрын
Let's talk about perspective
@milordas
@milordas Жыл бұрын
and none with sun glasses? no, thank you
@flyingjeff1984
@flyingjeff1984 8 ай бұрын
It doesn't get better than Transitions.
@iRA_mkb
@iRA_mkb 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review thank you sir.
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