My Tech Salary Progression

[@jacobbrowning447]

Thanks for this super transparent video Neet. I've always felt behind the pack because I moved to a high COL city with my fiancée and haven't found a "big tech" job yet. These numbers helped me realize I'm doing relatively just fine. Now I know what to expect when a big tech job lines up.

[@peeper2070]

Bro outearned my entire bloodline by his mid-20s

[@eobardthawne6903]

And certainly had to spend just as much to afford living there too but yes, he was still left with a lot of savings 😂

[@lukakalu8663]

Where are you guys from? This is actually not the top band salary here. I feel like neet was severely underpaid given his talents.

[@jayberry6557]

Those amounts sound unreal outside of US bubble 😢

[@nafis_rk]

U.S isn't a bubble. Companies make more money, people get paid more. Same goes for different markets in different countries.

[@daviduzumaki]

it’s not a bubble bruh. most jobs in the US pays more in any industry

[@0Mynameisearl0]

He also lives in Seattle which is already a high cost of living area of the US. Not to mention with as much money as these companies make and pay the CEOs this type of pay should be standard at companies at this level.

[@LoyalSlime]

People in NA, UK and EU don't realise how lucky they are. I used to work as a telecom engineer and made 4k USD and then as an SDE 2 at Oracle for 10k USD a year in India. If I were to do that in the US, I would make x20 that. Indian regulatory laws are so dumbfound, their mob mentality wont let companies come in or progress to happen. Just so much talk for becoming the world's largest economy by 2050. This country is going nowhere.

[@zzzzzzzjsjyue2175]

@@LoyalSlime Your guys cost of living is wayyyy less though

[@doublesushi5990]

badass outro "if you can get more money, in any circumstance, and you're not getting that, technically you are underpaid"

[@torresoso]

Thank you for answering *my* question!

[@mikejakusz1493]

Thanks for the breakdown! That's super insightful :) really big fan of all your content!

[@reaganz8305]

the fact that I was there for the livestreams and you asking us to ask these questions is killing me 🤣

[@MylesTheGreat]

Do more livestreams they are actually super enjoyable lol

[@aGameScout]

hello Myles

[@vishwajeet5051]

these unscripted quesions is all that we crave for

[@Tetrax]

I made $234k at a startup as an entry level in SF, faang isn’t the highest paying anymore. If you’re looking to make a ton as an entry level engineer, find a tech unicorn to work for at a risk of overworking and burning out but you learn a lot :)

[@MahimDashoraHackR]

Do they ask leetcode in their interviews

[@Tetrax]

@@MahimDashoraHackR yes. But it’s mostly class based design but you also have to know the algorithm. If anything, it’s a bit harder. I worked at flexport and I know stripe has a similar interview process

[@Primoh]

Is that all liquid?

[@Tetrax]

@@Primoh nah its 140 base, 24 bonus and 70 stock

[@hueypautonoman]

Just out of curiosity, what was your rent in SF?

[@aznstride4325]

That’s a bit surprising, as an L4 (entry level) at Amazon, I make $180k(seattle/cali), which is broken down as $130k base, $45k Sign on bonus, and like $5k RSU (very little in first year). I use to think Google will pay you a lot more or at least around the same amount, and looked forward to joining it (bc of the assumed pay and thought it would be more chill 😂) Now I wonder if these tech KZbinrs are lying when they see they have received an offer with total comp of $300k, $360k (like jomatech and some other KZbinrs have said)… those amounts are probably for senior levels or above and managers.. (or I thought that’s probs google) But hey appreciate you for sharing your salary, something almost no one does. Please share more about your day of life on Google. Like are there standups everyday? Do you have to present or demo frequently? Do you have to participate in a lot of design reviews in a room of several seniors, and what’s that process like (is it scary)

[@ExecutionMods]

You can scrape through glassdoor if u are actually looking to investigate a company.

[@-_____-]

L4 is Amazon’s entry-level SWE role. L5 pay band can is 250k-350k in the US if memory serves me right. You don’t need to be senior to get 350k TC but you do need a few years of experience

[@-_____-]

Also, Amazon’s levels are inflated compared to Google. An L4 in Amazon is comparable to an L3 at Google.

[@xPussySlayerx69420]

300k for L4 which was the case for Joma is believable. Freshly promoted people at Google will not immediately see their higher compensation until after they get a full promoted equity refresher (which can take up to 1 year depending on timing), and you also have to wait until the grants from the previous years are replaced with your promoted refresher grants. New hires get that level grant immediately. When I got promoted to l4 at Google my TC was just under 200k but a few years later it was 310k at the same level.

[@funginimp]

His offers are lower than other people talk about because his years of experience are lower at the time. 300k+ in faang is normal if you have 5+ yrs.

[@jackfrost8969]

Binge watched your half-dozen videos and this is my new favourite channel. You are gonna blow up with these amazing contents.

[@haha-eg8fj]

This is like 3 times what you would get as a 1 YOE software engineer in Australia.

[@ryansamarakoon8268]

The top end in Australia such as Google and any of the trading firms pay decently if you look in AUD terms

[@billy818]

120k aud is average for 3yr xp in aust yeah?

[@haha-eg8fj]

@@ryansamarakoon8268 You could say that, but the headcount of new employees each year is one or two digits, so the competition is probably higher than in the US.

[@OpenDeepLearning]

Thank you so much for this video!

[@InconspicuousChap]

It's important that these figures matched those you declare to IRS :-)

[@FailMachineInc]

There's a pattern for certain part of the world being absolutely moronic in the chat, 0 respect for free content lmao

[@lawniczakjohn]

What about lunch cafeteria, gym, healthcare? I think FAANG gives you all the best goodies.

[@hjewkes]

I was so confused until I realized Google uses L3 for entry level. The companies I've worked for started L1 (interns didn't have a level), so L4 was like senior or staff level and should be 300+ TC

[@unathorizdwatermelon]

I'm an L2 at google but I'm not a swe. Im a datacenter technician and enjoy it!

[@rejectionistmanifesto8836]

How much is the pay breakdown?

[@marcounder]

these numbers.... In Portugal as a software developer with ~6 years exp, people should be making 40k-55k

[@AlexanderVlasov]

Thanks for the honest numbers. Quite a rare sight... And the IT salaries in the US are another planet. Here in Czech Republic we've get paid 40%-50% of the US salaries in the same positions.

[@martinprochazka3714]

No we're not... More like 20% or if so I'd like to know where you got that offer from because I recently scored an offer as C++ dev in military (got 3 years of xp in the industry) in Pardubice and will be making something like 40k/year and I already feel like I'm filthy rich and asking a cent more would make them think I'm crazy.

[@AlexanderVlasov]

@@martinprochazka3714 Prague, American corporation, senior position, 20 years of experience. Something like $70k/y including all the bonuses and pension contributions and stuff like this.

[@WC1337]

Ima cry if this is real bro wtf? I thought most SENIOR software engineers, web devs, etc., made like mid $100,000s like $130,000-$150,000 a year.

[@pawelinek4208]

Ye it's pretty funny living in poland earning about 30k yearly when often some random internships in US give you like 50 dollars per hour xD

[@pfodtakem9536]

They also pay 3k a month for a studio, but yeah.

[@mebro3036]

bro did the faang speedrun

[@MaxGuides]

Shoot, the last 5 seconds hits a little too hard. 6:17 hard to take the leap

[@kevin5523]

3800 bi weekly is what a mid level software dev makes in the netherlands lmao

[@illyias]

Yeah, this is absolutely crazy. As an intern?? Wtf??

[@pedromarques9267]

Half of 3800 bi weekly is what a mid level software dev makes in Portugal

[@devitosolucoes7534]

Oh, dude, as a developer with 7 years of experience, lots of projects, if I would be making 6k dols monthly it could change my life completely.

[@SportsIncorporated]

Northern Virginia? (Capital One - McLean) Silicon Valley/San Francisco?

[@letmeseeu]

how come your capital one full time return essentially the same pay rate as the internship? 3800 biweekly is about 100k salary

[@StfuSiriusly]

3800 pre tax is not 100k and if its 3800 post tax its def more than 100k

[@letmeseeu]

@@StfuSiriusly well 3800*26=98.8k so either he made more than full time offer or he gave pretax numbers

[@dillon268]

⁠@@letmeseeunot sure if you have a job but TC usually doesn’t include benefits such as 401k and health insurance. These are worth a ton in the US. Also interns are NOT worth 50 dollars an hour to begin with lol (unless they accept return offers and work for a year or two). Most don’t do anything speaking from experience and get paid a ton of money just to train them a bit and get them to accept return offers. No intern’s work over 8-10 weeks will recoup the 30-50k spent to onboard them (this is hyperbole I’m sure at least one has). Remember the Twitter intern who was tasked to fix the algorithm or something? Clearly he didn’t do that or anything useful in his 8 weeks. Where having interns is good for companies is the ease of recruiting full time employees which costs a lot of money. It’s much easier to send return offers than to recruit on LinkedIn. If you also don’t know 100k is a lot of money for new grads and only a few companies paid 150-250k for entry level in 2019.

[@rene.s.s]

I’m not a SWE, I’m a UX Researcher and I actually feel a lot better after seeing this video. I know my potential won’t get close to his. But going from an internship extension at 50k, to a Google contract at 77k and then my first FTE salary at 120k + 15% yearly bonus and a 3 year tiered RSU of $3,500 capping at $10,500 yearly (after 3 years) at an ancient healthcare Corp isn’t too shabby. Now that I maxed my RSU vest my TC after 4 years of merit is 165k and I feel like it’s under payed not seeing a promotion in that time. Maybe I should be grateful, but I’m looking around to see what offers are out there. Totally agree, “if you can get more, technically, you’re under payed”.

[@kostiapereguda]

US salaries are insane! Take apple for example, for exactly the same mid-level position they pay either $140k or £32k depending on whether you will be stationed in US or UK! This is insane!

[@blackbriarmead1966]

After seeing this I'm very happy with 100k + 2500 sign on bonus (I negotiated this) at a small-to-medium sized IAAS company as my new grad job. Can't believe I am 21 making 6 figures. Now all I'm missing is a 6 pack lol

[@alexanderfournier7292]

That's great for a new grad but peanuts when you are 30.

[@josephmarch7142]

If you ever get a kid, that money evaporates quickly. Haha. I make about 150ish in the EU, and between taxes, childcare, mortage... WHEW.

[@dong-hanguyen8266]

I love neetcode. Casually talking shit to the rest of us peasants.

[@AdrianCuet]

in spain your first software engineer job is around 20k if u are lucky xD

[@orepajic2625]

L4 with only 1.5 years of experience is actually insane

[@TheOneAndOnly520]

Thats a big gap from 2020 to your google job...what were you doing?

[@MrJuandahero]

what location? 100k in nyc is not the same thing as 100k in nashville or raleigh

[@asian1599]

why do these companies underpay some people and give standard pay to others

[@OwenWu-f9t]

so where is the 400k a year we are talking about? 160k a year is far off

[@raymondyang2018]

We can think of this as an internship 😆. You're killing it now though my guy. Trust me, Amazon is overrated.

[@dunnodunnich8689]

bro made me feel poor for 6 minutes and 22 seconds straight

[@redthunder6183]

0:16, ok sure buddy, you gotta be working 29 hours a day to earn $3800 bi-weekly at $13/hr... Explain

[@NeetCodeIO]

13/hr was for a math tutoring job *before* the internship. The internship was def more than that.

[@redthunder6183]

@@NeetCodeIO oh my bad lol, I thought u were talking abt ur internship when u said 13/hr lol

[@yungrichnbroke5199]

This could’ve been a 1 minute video. Or just a picture even.

[@emilyau8023]

You have nice handwriting c:

[@sujithkoneru8475]

5:50 two full time jobs at once?

[@centanaire7507]

Not as high as I thought; but, stellar income compared with other industries.

[@adriatic123]

Those at US big tech have huge salaries compared to tech guys in East Europe who have better skills. Go figure

[@ADITYA-fk1zy]

ppl who didn't watch the stream are so confused why the chat is laughing 😂.

[@adrian333dev]

Was he just acting for KZbin content 😂😂??

[@adrian333dev]

​@@raghavsytdoes Twitch's chat look like that?😂😂😂

[@ADITYA-fk1zy]

@@adrian333dev all I can say is he is a great actor🤣

[@sahilverma_dev]

0:02 Only few people know the reason behind the smile 😂😂😂

[@jonathankim1999]

Hey man, this is probably a pretty personal question. I work at Amazon, and I’ve always dreamed of becoming a KZbinr. Can you make a video on the minimum stats you need to hit to make a living off KZbin?

[@polyfoxgames9006]

Are these values pretax?

[@NeetCodeIO]

yeah, all pretax

[@mkum2141]

Why is the chat talking about neet's acting lol

[@sayginartiran]

This is very interesting. Your Google salary is literally the lowest I’ve ever heard from a Google SWE. It’s probably before the inflation went crazy and most of the Google people I know are PhDs so those might be why.

[@VladimirTheAesthete]

Bro made more money in two years than what I will make in a decade 💀

[@adnanyeasir7965]

how much from youtube and your neetcode sites

[@adrian333dev]

WTF is happening in the chat 😅?

[@024_habeeb7]

where th is this live happening

[@PavloFesenko]

It can't be $13 per hour otherwise you must have worked about 21 hours a day, including weekends, to earn $3800 bi-weekly. Or are my calculations wrong? 🤔

[@alexbrady6049]

He was saying that $13/hr was the highest he had been paid before getting the internship.

[@coherentpanda7115]

@@alexbrady6049 Thanks I didn't catch the past tense either.

[@DayDreamer1230-n1i]

Why are people in the chat laughing 🤔🤔

[@dan-cj1rr]

youtube streams chat is always weird

[@dailyclipmafia5041]

how do you get less than 180K at google and amazon????

[@Lulit999]

Are these amounts net or gross?

[@muzikjay]

Gross

[@2RosarioVampire]

Always gross. Everyone in US talks about income before taxes and all. It's normal.

[@35ysl]

Amounts are always gross, because the net can vary by many factors and be different for everyone

[@BobbyBrixx]

Holy shit..

[@AliaksandrSmirnou]

I like what are you doing bro please keep on do not sell yourself to the system 160k at G vs 60k subscrıbers on youtube))

[@kris7968]

I think I am not going to make as much as your 1year salary in my life time.

[@kclalit64]

dude you are so exposed 🤣

[@solitary200]

Jesus those salaries are shit.

[@rafinha0206]

160K to make a button lulw

[@egor.okhterov]

The US salaries are stupid

[@sasukesuite1]

Really regret doing aerospace engineering. Back when I was considering my major I took a look at salaries and median for aerospace was $109k and comp sci was $104k. $5,000 made me choose the wrong path lol. I only make $185k now at age 27, but that's basically the top end for aerospace engineers. Top level engineers that are 60+ years old only make about $200k - $250k maximum if they're lucky. Entry level programmers make more than me and can earn over $1 million salary. I'm seriously considering jumping ship lol.

[@johnstewart5221]

where do u work that they’re paying 185k for aero and what i’m assuming is 4 years experience??

[@Gin-mz5wo]

I don't know how stable aerospace engineering is but all these tech layoffs sucks

[@sasukesuite1]

@@johnstewart5221 I’m a DoD government contractor. My role actually requires 8 years of specialized experience with 12 years overall experience, but they reached out to me I guess because it’s hard to find people with active clearances and relevant degrees. Before this job, I worked entry level at $75k.

[@sasukesuite1]

@@Gin-mz5wo my government contract is unstable lol. It’s a 1 year contract with 4 optional years. Usually the government pays those option years, but there’s no guarantee they will. And those option years get decided on each year, so they could do it year 1 and cancel the other 4, or do year 1 and 2, then cancel the other 3, etc. That’s kinda why I’d rather be in software. Even if I only worked at FAANG for 1 year and I made $400k as a mid-level developer, I’d have enough saved to be unemployed for at least 3 years just off that job the way I save money. I save over half of my income now because I live frugally.

[@atharvpatil3106]

Great acting 😂😂😂

[@NeetCodeIO]

I'm not sure what you're talking about 🤭

[@SASA_maxillo]

@@NeetCodeIO 😂😂😂😂

[@warnick9908]

$3800 / 13 = 292.30 292.30 would be houw many hours you worked every two weeks. 292.30 / 14 = 20.87 which would be how many hours per day you worked 20 to 21 hours a day ..... :/

[@shawnmallon2833]

dude you legit worked for less than 3 years, stop it ur a youtuber

[@adfasdfasdf643]

stopped when you said you don't remember how many rsu you got. Pretty useless video imo if you're not even going to pull up your offer letters for this

[@learningalgos614]

Bruh it was a livestream. You want him to do that mid livestream?

[@yihsiangkao]

@@learningalgos614they can choose not to pick up the question. Sharing nonfactual fact is useless info. Misinformation is worse than not sharing at all

[@rajhenry4526]

And the Oscar goes to...