My thoughts on Fishing Planet & RF4: Present & Future...

Need I say more? Ok, I will - after hearing people complain about the way Fishing Planet and RF4 are set up, I set out to understand how the game works, and explain it as best I could to all of you. As well as including what I view for the future of each game.
Time table:
(0:00) Intro
(0:15) Progressing through Fishing Games, "Pay to Win"?
(7:24) The Future of Fishing Games
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[@BoAngles]

You know, I just remembered, we had to buy World of Warcraft… pay $40-60 for every expansion (there are many) and pay $15 a month… kids these days have no idea! 🤣

[@TheFarshooter]

Honestly the big issue is just how repetitive the grinds are, with Russian fishing 4 its 300-500 hours of just bream fishing to get a decent Carp fishing setup for the midgame, and while Fishing planet is better it still has major issues with alot of species paying you basically nothing. This is also where The Angler does well as you can get enough money for setups by catching most species in the game.

[@II_Bruno_II]

As a FP and The Angler player imo FP is overall better (physics, fighting, amount of fish, gear etc) but I hate needing to pay to get a license and travel (I kinda understand the travel price but definately hate it, i mean you already grind a lot to unlock and still need to pay for it and it isn't cheap), and I love The Angler because of the graphics and the freedom to explore all the map (by boat, jeep or foot) and you dont need to pay anything to change from a map to another, also you can get money and xp by doing other activities other than just fishing. Both games are awesome but both have their pros and cons.

[@paulharsh78]

As a new player (27), still learning what different rods, gear, tackle do. Even if i wanted to, I’d have no idea what DLC to even buy.

[@user-hx3gd5lz9c]

Your ideas are Awesome. I am a disabled/retired/vet and my rent just increased and food is going up again so I had to give up premium. I love Fishing Planet. I love to fish but unfortunately I can not do it in real life anymore. I hope they give someone like me the chance to Beta test the ocean map. Grant it I am at level 80 and around rank 44 I believe so at this point premium really doesn't effect me. Tight Lines All and ENJOY.

[@user-hx3gd5lz9c]

My Fishing Planet name is MisterBlueFin.

[@Bensen555]

if you didn't already know you can buy premium on black friday at ~60% off. it's around 25 for 1 year premium or so.

[@theREALTRUTHagn]

Sad the way the government system works to where it fuks people it's already fuked and then want to fuk them some more, but keep following a system that is rigged to benifit them and build their empire while the people that served the country get fuked in the ass by the government like everyone else, YAY GOVERNMENTS🙄😒, stay strong brother, a new system will fix things🤫😉

[@Raul710]

I haven't fished in real life. I didn't even know how to set up a rod at first, but the developers must be doing something right when I'm addicted to the game. The objective and enjoyment is to move forward little by little. My least favorite aspect of the game is the cost of repairs. Does the equipment degrade that much in real life? I don't understand so much complaint for a game that you can play without paying money. If you are in a hurry you pay and if you are not you don't. It's a choice.

[@932goldengates]

Interesting take on the whole fishing genre. It would indeed be interesting to have a group challenge. I'll have to do some more thinking on a monthly fee to get more regular content. At this point I am eager for the Ocean update. Hope to see you on the water.

[@turkey7159]

The only update i want, is the sound of fish pulling drag, when braid is getting pulled I dont wanna hear a clicking sounds, I wanna hear the burning of the line from the fish pulling it.

[@waleed4636]

Yes, it will add a lot of enthusiasm and realism

[@daphne3912]

Good video, Bo! The ads in Fishing Planet really do get on my nerves. I noticed recently they don't even have a "close" button on them anymore - just a "buy" and "more details" button. It's gotten pretty obnoxious. I would happily pay a subscription like I do in FFXIV if it meant no more ads and always having premium.

[@1989JARR]

The grind in fishing planet is a bit annoying BUT it is also the most realistic ish one I've seen for all the ones I've played through the years and I hold it as a standard for other fishing games now. I also love how precisely you can get casts and has just helped me fishing irl in understanding rod and reel setup better

[@hahhahaha3103]

I really feel alot of the gaming community has got used to pay to play this is sad games are meant to be played to unlock get things that was all u could do when I started playing games paying to play defeats the whole process of PLAYING A GAME

[@600f4]

exactly... i call it pay to lose, the winners are those of us who spend nothing, or very little, get all the goodies from the game and receive far more value from it. There's this "must get there first" attitude which simply means you miss out on a lot of entertainment, and quite often in-game knowledge. It's the journey that's the fun part of most of these games, not the destination.

[@waleed4636]

Hello, I love your channel and how interested you are in gaming news, and I liked how you explained to some people that the game gives you two options: either Grind or DLC. I've already purchased 3 DLCs, Amazon, Blue Crab, and Congo, and enjoyed them, but I'm wondering why the ocean map took so long? Sorry, my English is a little bad😅

[@BoAngles]

In the last ocean update video they explained that the ocean map has required so much work, it would have been easier to make an entirely new game than to create this 1 fishing location.

[@waleed4636]

@@BoAngles I think we'll wait until July🙂💔

[@designerpaper]

"and he picks up fish like they weigh nothing" 💪🤣 Great take on these titles being MMORPG.

[@tsmrtt0845]

I think it would be cool if they added multiplayer boss battles

[@kevinmunley]

I think it’s important to point out that you can go from level 1 to level 80 without EVER paying a single penny. Granted it will probably take your unborn grandchild to get you there but it’s possible. One of my biggest complaints is from when I was a newbie and had no idea how to play the game. They should include some kind of rewatchable tutorial to give stupid people like me some hint as to what to do at the early stages.

[@BoAngles]

Hey, you can reach the highest level in Runescape without purchasing a membership as well!

[@J.O.E-Gaming]

I agree and disagree with some of your thoughts. But overall, great video! It opens up ideas and opportunities for the future of Fishing Games. But at the current state of Fishing Games, I believe they have it right. DLCs, Premium, Subscriptions, micro transactions are the way the Game Developers make money. The fact the game is free and can be free to play is already a bargain for one of the best Fishing Simulators out there. If they get rid of Micro Transactions, Subscriptions, or DLCs, they wont make any money to support their game in the future or long run. Call of The Wild Angler is different, you have to pay $30 USD to play, and still have to buy DLCs, I believe they got it wrong, hence their low player base. Overall, great video, and great ideas! - J.O.E Gaming YT

[@BoAngles]

I'm not sure you fully understood the last half of the video, but glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!

[@J.O.E-Gaming]

@@BoAngles You're basically saying you want Fishing Games to be an RPG with boss fights and etc. That doesn't even make sense imo. Its a Fishing Simulator, not RPG simulator. You're trying to combine WoW or Osrs in to Fishing Theme, which doesn't even sound right. I think i understood it right. Grouping up with other players to take down a Boss Fish? Eventually once every catches that "boss fish" that content will be dead, just like every other RPG. Once you get done with that dungeon or trial and get the Gear you're looking for, why go back? I understand what you're trying to say. But imo, doesn't sound right.

[@BoAngles]

​ No, no, no lol, you're so confused - I don't even know where to start. I'd recommend just watching the whole thing again😆

[@J.O.E-Gaming]

@@BoAngles After rewatching a couple times, I got a better understanding of what you're trying to say. Of course i'm gonna have my disagreements. But still gonna be here supporting Bo Angles and MDO no matter what. Keep up the work brotha!

[@dolleris9882]

I wish to see RF4 combined with FP together. Coz trophy's system on RF4 is better then FP but game play when you can see each other in FP is good way to play with your friends together and enjoy the game. So i think those two things have to be in RF4 and FP to make both games better 🙂 either way i love both games. And i hope some day we will see characters in RF4 and trophy's system on FP like in RF4 where you can buy your house and hold those trophys on the wall ❤️‍🔥🔥

[@digthat]

Im stoked for the Ocean update 🎉🎉🎉

[@LKnivesGaming]

Not sure switching to a subscription based model during the rise of subscription fatigue in consumers would be a particularly good move but I have also seen that model give the player base incredibly vetoing power over changes the company would make. We just passed the 1 year anniversary of the Dungeons and Dragons community vetoing Wizards of the Coast's move to change their gaming license from an open license to a license that would give the company power to strong arm any creator or company that used their product in their own by cancelling their subscription to D&D One in droves. The effect was immediate and beautiful. (It also gave my preferred TTRPG company it's best year of sales ever so that was a win for me) So, I guess I am pro subscription. Talked myself out of being against it by typing up this monstrous run on of a post.

[@BoAngles]

lol, well hey, sounds like you put some thought into it, at least!

[@TheBirdBoi.]

ALSO I like the idea of dlcs cos it allows your to enjoy the game and get more if you want like subscriptions it’s just more subscriptions

[@BoAngles]

Ah, but imagine not needing more... because you have the subscription? Imagine paying $15 for 3 months of a subscription, which in turn gives you more than a $20 DLC... ?

[@TheBirdBoi.]

They should add an option for both like a pass that gives you all the dlcs or you can pay them on your own like gamepass

[@XxTHe14oNExX]

Fishing planet has the best gameplay of all fishing games available right now and I love it and don’t mind that they have “premium” and DLC to buy. I agree with your sub idea. I feel the main thing new players face with fishing planet is how low the value of stuff you get for the $$ you spend. I like grinding but you can tell it is extremely slow even with premium time and the DLCs are pushed more as “limited time large xp boosts” when they should just be “level boosts” similar to other free games or mmos like wow.

[@kourtlankauffman9891]

Such a huge fan of this channel and the new branding!

[@fishingplanetgame]

Writing down ideas... 🤓

[@ReelRebelsLLC]

Whether its MMORPG or not, please care about your fan base that you built, dont lose it. Once there's another fishing game out who do have these features like beach fishing, ocean, realistic fish fighting, without having a couple of hundred of hours grinding just to have fun and then keep buying locations and fixing equipment, what will you do to keep that fan base? I love fishing planet and i know you guys get alot of hate with the buying, grinding, fixing equipment, but if i were to buy stuff and it not break and paying to fix it i would play the game more, and the grinding, if i got to level 80 fast and i had everything in the game, i would not just be like im done lets try a new game, id play it more than i would now. more people who play fishing planet would prefer it over the current state now. I'm not hating, but its just an idea. would you rather have happy players or upset players who have no other games to play that is on the level of fishing planet but having to grind day in and day out while having jobs and other stuff they have going on just to have fun. I'm no statistic analysis nor know how to market a game but if i did have a game out, id make it for the players, not the money. I hope you guys have a nice weekend and hope the Ocean update goes well!

[@russellayton6408]

Thank you for that! Pandering is a game destroyer!

[@awesomepob1799]

The biggest issue with fishing planet is the fact you pay travel costs and licensing cost’s, which then you have to fish 3 in day games to make a profit which for the average person who is busy with life just doesn’t have that kind of time very often

[@BoAngles]

I do hear this a lot, but I’ve never truly experienced it as a detriment to the game. Traveling to a new place to fish costs money. Licenses cost money… to me it’s just part of the game.

[@martinristic6377]

Plus you need first to have level to travel to the new place

[@600f4]

i agree, not so much the travel but the licences... it just gets in the way of fishing, I know its built into the game economy but surely there's less intrusive ways. RF4 for all its faults just lets you go to a map, you pay a token travel fee, and stay there as long as you like and catch what you like.

[@awesomepob1799]

@@600f4 exactly to have to play about 6 hours depending on net size to just break even is ridiculous for the average player who has work,school family and such will take me id estimate 5 years to get max level

[@beydon8454]

The fp future is very bright i can sense it even.😎😎 (magic)

[@ndc9300]

I honestly like how they have it now. The reason is because they give me a choice grind for free or buy dlc that I don't have money for. If they change it to what you are saying, I feel as if a lot of players are going to leave me included.

[@BoAngles]

You wouldn’t just keep playing the free version?

[@slackercubed]

Comically, the biggest complaint about most RPGs is the repetitive grinding. I don't mind earning my way through a game, but Fishing Planet does get pretty slow after level 40. I went from playing daily to weekly because it feels so repetitive until you unlock a new lake or finally earn enough money to buy a new setup. Now I only play daily when there is an event going on. There are some things they could do to lessen the grind, like letting us catch monsters multiple times so we could try for records or having weekly goals to catch certain fish to gain additional money and XP. 🤔

[@vickiejenkinson2468]

I play free cuz I don't have any extra money to pay to pay any game. I've always enjoyed all my games with having to rank up or level up. I've done many Halo games, Red Dead Redemption, both Division and others. If it ain't free I cannot afford to play. I've enjoyed the grinds along the way. I've played Fishing Planet every day for just over a year now. What I know now compared to what i knew on day one is huge. I want ready for next level fish... until I was actually ready. Gotta learn how to bring in larger fish. I'll continue with how I'm playing cuz I actually enjoy it, just the way it is. Thank you again Fishing Planet for an awesome game! Vickie PS and thank you Bo for the help I've received from you along the way. I've gotten to where I play the location before watching the video now lol. Frustration causes me to watch before catching all the fish instead of after, but still watch after!

[@JoJoC654]

i would prefer cheap dlcs with big effective expansions rather than a subscription but i understand where your coming from

[@ivtec4fun55]

The problem is money skips time, but getting lost in time is the best part of life. Once the MMO's start being "pay to win" (or progress for that matter), it just means that you can't win or keep up with your friends unless you have money and real life money is a problem so that's why we game in the first place, to get away from it. It ruins the experience.

[@BoAngles]

I have plenty of memories stored away playing hours on end with friends in WoW. A standard monthly subscription allows for that, to not 'waste time grinding,' which is time we cannot get back or make more of, but supply the developers with monthly income that keeps the game improving and growing, while enjoying the game and completing missions and challenges - dungeons, etc. to move forward in level instead of grinding.

[@parkerblanton46]

Hello bo

[@cruzmerc509]

Boston Angler 617 Tight Lines🤙Angler since Lv 48 rank 6 max no Blue Crab Island at the time now im 80 rank 11 coming back and I must say Im still waiting for this Perfect Ocean DLC if I don't make 50 grand on any ocean fish Im quitting Fishing Planet🤷Peace BO✌😁you know im not just saying💪

[@djiworedjoadriano893]

Why don't we start in the country we're from? Lvl68 for amazon is pretty far

[@user-if5fg3jj9f]

leave it just like it is. if I choose to buy a DLC, my choice.

[@user-if5fg3jj9f]

My Fishing Planet name is cbone

[@kevinpawpadawgmoore8175]

A monthly charge? I came across FP after my spinal surgery last year. I became disabled and until surgery was having issues walking. The game gave me an escape and took my mind off real life issues and was great. I buy premium (PSN)when I am able to as with the rising cost of things we had to drop some of our streaming services and now talk of charging a monthly fee to continue what i enjoy with this game? PSN has made it almost impossible for people such as myself that have been gaming for years and now I find out PSN is requiring a premium membership in order to play games online with friends? You spend $80-$100 per game now days and then they want more money to go online? The way FO is set up,,,yes it can get tedious and monotonous having to grind to level up l, however while doing so you are gaining knowledge of the game, lures,bite times,weather patterns etc If FO does go to a monthly membership in order to continue playing I am afraid I will have to step away as it would be an unnecessary bill which I wouldn't be able to afford. I enjoy the game and hope and pray I will be able to continue playing. Please consider people like myself before making such a requirement to play such a great game.

[@BoAngles]

Hello - an interesting point! I feel like the issue is - a lot of people have never played Runescape! So it's hard to picture a system set up this way. You would still be able to reach the highest level in the game playing free-to-play. You simply wouldn't have access to all of the features without paying the developers for the work they've put in. So, in a way, you're asking developers to consider working for free, to allow for people to continue playing without paying for anything.

[@jimmunro4649]

The SEA DLC is level 83 I am level 42 other 41 levels do I GRIND night and day for hours and hours, or just BUY THE DLC like many I will just buy DLC

[@Biggy-Chezz]

I used to think “FishingPlanet is the best game, blah blah” but now, the lack of updates, the pay-to-win, and how boring it got. I like the angler now

[@brockbreastler919]

Same ive really been enjoying the angler lately

[@BoAngles]

You're never truly finished with Fishing Planet... but enjoy the Angler for what it is! I'm going to be salt water fishing soon! 😄

[@brockbreastler919]

@@BoAngles i will be too but once u do the missionsbin fishing planet catch all the uniques. Its boring thats why no one plays it atm.

[@Rambo-fc5id]

You'll be back when Ocean Update comes, and you'll be claiming Fishing Planet is the Best Game again blah blah blah. Like every other "i CaNt wAiT aNyMoRe fOr ThE oCeAn UpDatE" Just give it time.

[@ifacecheck]

Does the angler have a way to fast forward time yet? Found it insane that there was no way to do it when the game was free up on Epic

[@vikingdeep]

Sorry Bo & Fishers.. Had no intention of Sending that last Message 2X !? Unknown how that occurred.... many Apologies, but Content still stands. Vike1 ~ ~ ~

[@Mr.Iskandar]

Actually...i think fishing planet is the most realistic fishing game in mobile ever...it's make me feel like i'm going fishing in real life...but i can't grinding for long time because it's easily make my phone overheating and easily drain my battery but still fishing planet is the best mobile fishing game ever that i have play

[@Moose_fishing]

Your going off a whole different category of games fishing planet is a vary unique so I don’t think that would work at all like if there was no grind then there would be no incentive to keep going and I mean they have to make money like yea the grind is a pain in the bit but premium is not even that expensive and having one part of the game and paying for the rest that’s not free to play that is like a test game I forgot what there called but that’s just my opinion

[@BoAngles]

I'd give it some more thought - I can guarantee I've thought about this more than most people at this point, lol. I've talked with multiple developers, I've looked at multiple similar games with similar game mechanics... it seems like the most logical way to move forward.

[@BoAngles]

Additionally - it may not be as unique as you may think! It is at its core - an RPG. An MMORPG. About fishing... There are many games like it, just not about fishing! If anything, Fishing Planet is much more simple than other RPG's and MMORPG's on the market. And in reference to the grind, imagine the difference between me saying - "hey, here is a forest... you just go chop wood until I tell you to stop." vs. me saying, "hey, here is a forest, we need wood for a cabin, and to do that, we need 20 logs at 12" diameter." That is the difference between grinding and questing. One is endless, monotonous... a grind. Where as the other allows you to picture how much you need to move forward, therefore seeming like a manageable goal.

[@jimmunro4649]

Fishing is PER PTW end of story and yes can play it without a SUB and not buying Addon packs But Grind is insane

[@BoAngles]

What exactly are you winning?

[@winox_1911]

I don't understand all these hater of FP guys it's a f2p game we can't blame for the dlc and the dlc is always for those who don't want farming the game all the map are available free and same for the rod lure etc you can spent zero dollar on fp if you don't wqnt to spend money un rf4 it's not possible i habe 2500 hours on rf4 and 1500 hours on fp and on rf4 i spent so much money for reel or rod on fp i have just spent for the prenium and i am level max 80 so please stop blaming fp

[@Kingboar2]

Is annoying to fish for a month irl for one fish...it shouldn't take a month to find another lake that you just gonna fish for one fish for another month that kills the game for me

[@Tops_Tech_Picks]

Yo bo can u play with me Im on lonestar

[@Twitchisatrick]

If they bring out subscriptions they will lose players. If people cant even afford to eat at fast food anymore what you think applying an subscription would end like then

[@BoAngles]

I think of the 15 million (+) players that paid $15/month to play world of Warcraft and think that fishing planet would make more money with 1000 players paying $5/month than 5000 players “maybe buying something random” over the same amount of time

[@RodznWheelz]

Sorry Bo - I disagree with you on this. 1 Stretching the definition of a MMORPG is a bit of stretching the reasoning to match the conclusion. Your argument is essentially that we are role playing in FP can be applied to just about all computer games. Thats plainly not the case MMORPGs are a distinct sector of the gaming world. Secondly FP has it just about right - or did. The principle behind FP is that you can achieve the top by playing it for free, but you can get their a bit easier with Premium. Like User-hx I am disabled and retired. FP has given me the opportunity to fish when I couldn't do so IRL. I have though bought premium and did so of my own will - choosing to give up other stuff for it. However, If the game had its better levels behind a paywall, I would look at it a different way and probably would not play it at all. What would be the point if you cant get to the top without paying.

[@BoAngles]

Hey, RoznWheelz! I disagree that my description of an MMORPG in the video can somehow be a blanket description for all computer games. I gave 3 examples in the video where I had shown that many games follow a storyline, however Fishing Planet does not. The game is - a fishing game, where you start at level one, and the only real goal to the game (besides challenges)... is to reach the last level - by any means necessary; including paying your way to the end. You are the 'angler,' it is your role to play, and there are many other people in the world with you... it is an MMORPG, if not just a very simple one. And I by no means wish for the devs to put 'the better levels (locations/gear?)' behind a paywall. Many people have fantastic experiences playing Runescape completely free-to-play, including myself. However, to unlock all the skills and all the quests/areas to explore, you must pay for the monthly membership. Runescape has, for many years, been very successful with this pay structure. You would - in theory, be able to play the game for free, even reaching the level cap, completely on those free locations - some of which could be 'better' than the membership locations depending on the fish species in the locations. However, like Fishing Planet is now, you would need to put in quite the grind; while paying the membership (on a monthly $5 basis) would allow you to play new locations, have access to more missions/dungeons, as well as have a better scale of exp and money gain overall, allowing you to grow in level faster than if you stayed on the locations before the $5/month membership.

[@RodznWheelz]

@@BoAngles Well at least we can agree to disagree! Reaching the top level for that free location while those who pay for it can go higher still is not being able to reach the top of the game. Yes it is quite the grind - Ive done it in part - I was level 58 or so before I went premium and bought an NPC . So i did the hard bit free... and due to my own incompetence managed around level 22 to run out of funds and had to grind from Texas up again! Obviously it is a lot easier with Premium - but as things are, those who cant afford to pay for what is essentially a luxury can still get to level 80 and beyond.

[@BoAngles]

@@RodznWheelz You've confused me once again! Lol, if it's a game that allows you to go from level 1-80... you can do that whether you're playing free, or with a membership. But - look at the story you've created from going through the game your own way! That's a story only you have, which is pretty cool. That's the neat thing about RPG's.

[@harleyrule5649]

The ppl that say pay to play pay to win , are idiots with out the dlcs there would be no updates , then these ppl would be bitching there’s no updates , bet these ppl would complain if there boss said your now working for free , that’s basically what your saying to the devs , thinking you guys have the right to a new product for free is silly , I do think game developers need to listen to the community , and fishing planet and the hunter call of the wild do best compared to most game developers , I spend way more $$$$$$ on fishing gear irl compared to these games and I have all dlcs for these games , my only thing is a lot of ppl that can’t sit on there ass for 12 hrs a day to level up ect ect is the biggest problem in games these days, the ppl that spend 48 or more hrs a week shouldn’t be complaining

[@ReelRebelsLLC]

Paying $5 for maps is just not smart at all. maybe for the company, but for the players thats just a big F you. Keep the premium and make the Maps a 1 time payment so we dont spend $60 every year just to fish on a map just to grind to fix our equipment.

[@BoAngles]

Nah, I’m understanding that this was a dumb video to try and explain because the majority of people have never played runescape- or been in a game where they’ve paid a subscription, so you have no experience of how good it actually is

[@ReelRebelsLLC]

@@BoAngles Fishing should not be a MMO style game. if they're trying to say its a "highly realistic first-person online multiplayer fishing simulator" they shouldnt have a crazy leveling system that takes a long time, specially if they dont have that much time to play, i dont mind the fixing the equipment, equipment does break, but i just have a problem with the DAYS of grinding and the payments to fish and travel. I also didnt mean to be mean, cant really tell emotions with words. didn't mean anything by my 1st comment.

[@BoAngles]

@@ReelRebelsLLC it’s understandable, but that’s the thing, it’s not just a highly realistic first person online multiplayer fishing simulator… it’s an MMO. No one is recognizing it- and there’s nothing wrong with it! Some of my favorite experiences in gaming involve doing challenges with other real people within a game- and that’s where fishing planet lacks a bit. Find a way for people to work together in real time- if some people don’t want to participate in it, that’s fine- but give the option. If there’s PVP, there can be PVE, and beyond the clans or groups. I’m tired of the ads - especially when I pay for premium, and I hate the grinding as well. If I’m paying $60 a year for premium, I don’t want ads and I don’t want grinding, and that’s what a consistent subscription provides for these developers- a steady income stream that allows them to invest more time into meaningful gameplay.

[@ReelRebelsLLC]

@@BoAngles If the game had a 100+ hour long grind and a different style/format for missions, id be all for the MMORPG style, and the subscription where you can have that extra xp and cash as well as Premium exclusive stuff like equipment drops for that month as well as cosmetics. id be all for it, i just dont want to pay a monthly subscription for maps, id want to be able to make a 1 time payment. Hopefully Fishing planet listens, theres no good fishing game out there that has surf/ocean fishing So maybe A subscription $5 a month * Double xp *Double Cash *No travel fee *cosmetic *Exclusive Events *No Ads DLC's that are a 1 time payment and you can keep everything without it breaking and no licenses for the maps in the DLC

[@Mangoplayzmm2]

First

[@ivankuljanac3008]

In fishing planet is a long time to grind and i like it and i don't like it

[@richardfox8468]

If there was a FP2 or a RF5 on the horizon I would avoid it like the plague. I am sorry but both games think they know about angling . Truth is they know 50% of something and 50% of nothing. Both games are not player friendly. You have been spoon fed this garbage from beta and now you accept it as the norm. Ask any carp angler if he uses 13/0 hooks etc

[@BoAngles]

Yes, we're well aware of the carp hook fiasco - we've made jokes about it from day 1. But, it keeps the game simple. "Player friendly" as some people would call it, scaling up the hook for the size of the fish.

[@600f4]

so what is player friendly? Yes, as someone who was carping at Savay and other Colne valley lakes in the early 80's , yes we were using size 4's and 8lb line most of the time. That said, big liberties have to be taken with fishing games, even the so-called sims, otherwise nobody would play them. People think they want a sim, but they often find out they don't, just take a look at all those who "want" a flight sim, they download dcs and never play again after a week or 2.

[@BoAngles]

@@600f4 yep, wouldn’t surprise me!

[@BoAngles]

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[@x_pure]

Imagine telling people you need to change your way of thinking because the game is the way it is. You know games have sand box modes? I don't necessarily mind the grind but I don't see why a sandbox type mode could not work. Some people have no interest in grinding their life away just to get to the high level areas and just want to fish. Plenty of games have a story mode or w/e where the DLCs make the money specifically the Jurassic World or Planet Zoo type games. Hell, if I had to pay for a standalone mode just for that I would.

[@BoAngles]

Yeah, I always hated Sandbox modes in games, always seemed like a way to skip putting in the work. Basically just a cheat code- so, yes I hate everything about people that want stuff like that 😂

[@paulharsh78]

As a new player (27), still learning what different rods, gear, tackle do. Even if i wanted to, I’d have no idea what DLC to even buy.

[@dallasjohnson1552]

First

[@davidroodhooft7642]

Kids yes you are 9 hold