My Thoughts on Netrodyne - Prime Inc AI Inward Facing Cameras - vlog update

[@traypatterson5523]

As soon as they tried to reroute me into the terminal for one of them contraptions, I’d be finding another company to take my truck to. To hell with that mess

[@censoredeveryday3320]

Prime can go to hell with their new inward camera policy. It's going to be used to micromanage an nitpick drivers of petty stuff. Used for firings. They can go to hell. I will never drive for them

[@RedRedred-ld4pb]

Prime is doing the right thing with the camera facing the drivers

[@ItsOfficialw]

@@RedRedred-ld4pb😂😂😂

[@CanalHW]

@@RedRedred-ld4pb 🐑

[@jeancadet5862]

more power to you buddy

[@Sean-ps3ec]

Lol "I am a ray of fucking sunshine" is golden man! Love it

[@robd5558]

Most of us don’t need a camera to do the job safely. There are plenty of companies out there without inward cams, if prime can’t trust me to do my job safely they don’t need me to drive for them.

[@troyjackson3164]

Your mistake is accepting this. I would not let any company invade my personal space and privacy

[@robd5558]

Imagine being “coached” by people that have never driven a truck lol.

[@johnwolf1475]

I WAS GONNA COME OVER FOR THE TANKER DIVISION- no frikken way, ill just go local fuel delivery

[@colbywolverton2410]

This video was way more informative than the one prime put out. Appreciate it👍

[@jameshorton2407]

Hope you learned how to run from prime as fast as you can

[@Pouncy]

Well presented with no BS. 👍

[@proximo3257]

I fucking LOVE that tablet. I was raging at the QC just a few hours ago because it went non-responsive for a long time again.

[@Nmcarter606]

I'm already working on my MC/DOT. Prime, ever since the new president, is changing so drastically, that it isn't the same company I signed up with.

[@doug8056]

You are training the AI to replace us all.

[@wileydutkiewicz3569]

The day they force that on me, I'm gone. Hell no.

[@fireandice1860]

I wonder if they see the whole video but when they release it to the driver, it shows the blurs etc and without the sound

[@LilDragonIndustriesLLC]

Supposedly, the blur is added in the cloud before anyone gets access to the video, including prime

[@fireandice1860]

@@LilDragonIndustriesLLC Id like to know who has access to the cloud because usually it means that data is always there. I remember reading the news about it from Prime where they said even if the government needed to see it, it wasn’t possible to access. But pictures uploaded on facebook, or instagram, or to go to the extreme and say personal pictures or videos showing NSFW material, are always in someones database/hard drive. Thats how pictures from long time ago still resurface. Whoever runs Netradyne or their servers must have access to the rest of the footage including the sleeper. I am positive the NSA could access it also if they claimed it was necessary. You already made it clear there are alot of unknowns and I sure as heck agree with you. Not sure if it will chase me out of Prime but that will depend on my settlements

[@LilDragonIndustriesLLC]

@@fireandice1860 they claim that the system uses its AI to know where the driver is, and draws a box around the driver and then blurs everything else, and that all of that is done automatically before the video is archived. That being said, I have seen videos online from this exact system being used by other carriers where the entire cab is clearly visible in the recordings.

[@robd5558]

I hate when people don’t stop at that stop sign on the yard, more than once I’ve had to slam on my brakes because someone blew right through it.

[@andredgar]

That’s the same camera we use hear at Amazon in our vans.

[@joev2440]

My question is will this be use against your DAQ report

[@jzznup8664]

Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response that can occur when someone is held captive or abused. Victims of Stockholm syndrome form a positive bond with their captors or abusers, feeling sympathy for them and developing positive feelings towards them. "DON'T BE A VICTIM"

[@Mafwarrior]

I think this is a target for the lease drivers personally.

[@Sean-ps3ec]

There will never be a such thing as "driverless" semi trucks on the highway. It may become automated. But there are several reason a driver will still be required to live on the semi. At least for the next 50+ years at least.

[@andrewstoops5879]

PS:as an Lease Purchase driver at Prime can U choose UR Own Loads?

[@LilDragonIndustriesLLC]

Technically yes

[@Kep1804]

I call B.S. you can't choose your own load. You can accept or deny what they choose for you​@@LilDragonIndustriesLLC

[@chrishudson100]

😂

[@heart_and_sole]

One might record the videos on the tablet with one's cell phone to retain a permanent record of video, by shooting video of the tablet screen while the video plays.

[@LilDragonIndustriesLLC]

Actually have been doing some of that

[@fireandice1860]

Is the GPS the same? I just saw the QC, so Im guessing the tablet is yours.

[@LilDragonIndustriesLLC]

The geotab has a GPS app called "copilot"

[@fireandice1860]

@@LilDragonIndustriesLLC And the geotab is what they add to all trucks? So we will all get one?

[@LilDragonIndustriesLLC]

@@fireandice1860 it's still "in testing" ATM but it's the thing I have tagged as "glados" in the video

[@craigalexander2632]

I just came from Stevens to prime and they had the same tablet and driveri app. As far as the camera it was different being that it had a camera on the left and right. We had a cap on the driver facing camera since they forgot they hired married couples and it’s also a lot of singles in trucking that need to handle “business” 😅 I hope we can cover it too, but I like the dash cam for the idiots on the road.

[@LilDragonIndustriesLLC]

No cover. Just one all seeing fisheye lens

[@FreeEagle1998]

Idc about cameras outside all the truck but inside??? Hell mah ill leave the first day

[@johnc1961]

If you haven't given consent for the company to share your data from the cam, I doubt any court, here or over there, would support their right to do so Dragon.

[@LilDragonIndustriesLLC]

Yes I have not given them consent to use the data as far as I'm aware but I am also sure I have not signed anything to not give them permission.

[@indo3052]

They have publicly stated they will not share the data with anyone

[@LilDragonIndustriesLLC]

@@indo3052 publicly stated and giving me a legal written document are very different things

[@indo3052]

@@LilDragonIndustriesLLC true. The manual states theres a built in mic on the device. Would of been nice if prime would of had then taken out

[@robd5558]

All it takes is a subpoena and prime will hand it over, then it’ll be public record. You don’t have to agree, the way prime sees it if you drive for them then you agree.

[@sherylclements2846]

Not a driver ... yet ... researching companies etc. All this Prime drama is all over KZbin. Having had well over 20 years in corporate however ... there's huge red flags with this. For Prime to spend the exorbitant expense for these cameras, there's something huge not spoken about this. Is Prime a company that has a huge amount of bad drivers? Where insurance rates come into play? Me think not because if you're a bad driver they have justification to fire you with cause. So that's not it. Are they losing contracts?? Maybe, but why? Did they raise their rates and customers are going elsewhere? Maybe. To weed out drivers without a layoff, is the camera expense going to be saving them enough in unaccountably harassing enough drivers to quit?? Maybe. OR taking your attention off driving and trying not to set it off. It also could be "selectively" dinging who it wants at different levels of sensitivity as well. They honestly have to tell YOU nothing or only what they want you to know. This is interesting enough to research and find out more. But the bottom line is this. Do what is best for YOU because a corporate entity does not see you as a human being and does not care about your existence, just theirs. There's no point in fighting or getting upset. Life is too short. Find a solution, your "own best interest solution" because that is exactly what they are doing as a corporate. May God bless your path and help you all out there with this issue. The company I worked for used COVID as a layoff excuse in 2020. Nothing personal. Use that anger and turn it around for YOUR own good!! God's best to you all at Prime, or soon to be elsewhere and better off than you ever thought you could be!!

[@indo3052]

Also, it doesn’t make any sense to me that they would want to increase liability since the company even though it’s all lease ops can still be sued . so why would the company intentionally increase liability?

[@axelthomas6343]

It’s been my belief since these things came out that they are used in software development for self driving trucks… it’s inevitable… no trucking company would want this technology especially a company like prime who hires thousands of rookies annually. There is absolutely no benefit to having the driver facing camera on both the drivers end or company end. You are spot on that there is a much bigger picture here than just “liability.” Either way. Stay far away from a company that does something as evil as putting a camera in your face.

[@gustavokennedy213]

So if video was leaked from the cloud that show a private sensitive moment or some one is watching you from the cloud after they hacked it. Then you could sue prime? When say private I mean. The trucker wife was filmed dressing and her naked body was showing. The camera picked up this footage and leaked it. Or your straggling a lot lizard. Either way u could sue the company right?

[@indo3052]

I doubt they would tell you u what evidence they had

[@johnwolf1475]

nothing like riding with the companies prosecuting attorney trying to put you in jail to get the company clear of any charges- QUIT THE COMPANY- DONT BE WITHOUT YOUR 4TH AND 5TH AMENDMENT RIGHTS

[@Robert-pb8fq]

😂😂prime!!

[@JarredWoods]

everyone complaining can’t be serious. Spoke to dispatch and they literally said they will NOT be micro managing people and don’t even have time to do it. The only people who are complaining have 12 points or more on their record. A majority of companies literally have cameras and its literally just really see if something happened to cause an accident

[@johnwolf1475]

only one r`eason for security or monitoring cameras- to prove others wrong-- while covering someones ass- in the case its teh company- and the prosecuter for the company and those suing the company

[@brbtruckn3526]

No side cameras? It’s useless.

[@RedRedred-ld4pb]

If you dont want the camera to find another job,