my thoughts on prusa's new core one (while I unclog my X1C)

[@strelkomania]

While unclogging my X1C the other night (first time printing PA6-CF...), I thought to turn on my camera and talk about my first impression of the new Prusa Core One! I wonder if it will be as good as it looks... What are your thoughts? 👀 I keep making comparisons to the X1C in this video since I own that printer/have one in my school lab and have a better working experience with it than the other enclosed CORE XY builds Bambu Lab has in their line up.

[@Adam-qr4jj]

Kobra 3 combo is less than $300 on eBay with their cyber Monday coupon....would like to hear your thoughts

[@strelkomania]

@@Adam-qr4jj shoot I totally missed this comment and in consequence the cyber monday deal on eBay. I'll have to look into this system, did you end up getting it ?

[@Adam-qr4jj]

@strelkomania no I didn't. It was a good deal tho. I just have a lot of printers

[@DaniGirl6]

It's worth noting the X1C pulls a lot from the Voron printers. I'm pretty sure BambuLabs credited Voron on their website somewhere. I suspect the Core One probably pulls more from Voron more than X1C.

[@d3xbot]

I've been tempted by the Prusa mk. 4s for a while now but haven't gotten around to pulling the trigger. Now, I'm super hype for the new Core One because... 1. Filterable, ductable air output. I have some HEPA filters, but I'd like to catch as much as I can as it leaves the printer - not once it's in the air. I can also duct the air output out a window or into a higher-duty filter depending on my needs 2. Print enclosure temperature control. Yes, other printers have this, yes I'm still excited about it 3. I can just print with it. No wifi or phone apps required. If I want, I can run Octoprint with it. Or I can just hook it to my network and print with their software. It's flexible like that! 4. It's a Prusa - that means there's no shortage of ways to easily mod your printer to make it more functional for you. It is *your* printer, after all.

[@dalerbsr.5061]

Thanks for the Core One thoughts, I am seriously now thinking of selling my Mk3S+. But am going to wait till this new printer is in the hands of reviewers and or version Core One Plus arrives! lol

[@danielhrechka5609]

I could not wait. Lol ordered one,right away. 🙏

[@DanielThaller]

I boungt the upgrade kit from mk3s+ to mk4s and im upgrading again to the core one.

[@danielhrechka5609]

Been waiting to see the MMU3 be listed as for the Core one. Nothing yet but I do see the buddy cam is available which I awesome will already work with Core one.

[@livedeliciously]

I've had decent luck printing fiber filaments with a 0.4 nozzle, but I get these random clogs from time to time. So I've moved on to 0.5 and 0.6 nozzles.

[@comediehero]

You are not trying to push CF filaments through a 0.4mm nozzle right? Bambu reccomends using 0.6 nozzle for abresive filaments.

[@802Garage]

Yeah I like your thoughts overall. It still has a premium price, but European labor isn't cheap, and I bet it will be very reliable and high quality. Have you seen the new Flashforge AD5X? 4 color for $399 is wild!

[@sandingo]

why do i need to pay extra for euro labor? the chinese got ancient secrets and skills

[@802Garage]

@sandingo I'm not saying you SHOULD I'm just saying it's a factor.

[@oneanother1]

Prusa looks kinda cheap. Has like a thin sheet metal look to the frame. Gotta see the reviews and customer response. I'm not seeing anything innovative with the core one. Sucks for such a small build volume.

[@802Garage]

@@oneanother1 Doesn't have to "innovate" to be a quality product. The actual temperature monitoring and stabilization is a solid feature over most printers. The spool being held within the heated printer isn't new, but is rare. Their extruder design is still very solid. There are many advantages including of course not being totally closed like Bambu Lab.

[@oneanother1]

@802Garage it could be worth it, we'll have to wait and see. I don't mind getting a mk4 on a discounted price when the core one comes out. I'm on an mk3s.

[@spinnetti]

You have a very calming voice... also the content was good lol. I JUST updated my 4 to 4S then the core comes out! Trying to decide if I do nothing, upgrade existing, or sell and get the new one. I have the MMU, but I don't color change much so single color is the least hassle.

[@tomlanger7658]

Nice video, you’re really skilled! I’ve been a fan of the Prusa brand for a long time. I’ve ordered the Core One, mainly for the speed and TPU prints, so I’m curious to see how it works for my new fishing projects :)

[@strelkomania]

Thank you for stopping by! You'll have to let me know how the prusa core one ends up working for you, specially with the TPU. I tend to only use my MK3s+ for my flexible materials haha. Good luck with your fishing projects :)

[@besewaxe4985]

babe wake up strelkomania posted

[@dkiiv]

your comment about this being the first printer youre inclined to go out and buy right away. in the same boat! been with prusa since the mk2, and this is the first machine im going to be buying near-or-at launch

[@Foodgeek]

I will definitely upgrade my MK4S, but I need to figure out if the MK4S+MMU3 is worth it. The fact that the Core One's footprint is smaller makes it very tempting 😁

[@nicholasdasti7563]

Great video as always :)

[@LordWiseWolf]

I’m very curious by the MMU. The core one will probably by my first Prusa. But I’m so spoiled by the AMS. Like being able to switch colors and just have it switch automatically when my filament runs out, it’s so great. Wish it had more comparability with spools but works great with the sunlu I’ve been getting.

[@kaasmeester5903]

The MMU3 works great, but as was said in the video, it's a messy setup and loading filament in the buffer is troublesome. Someone recommended to get rid of the buffer and use self-rewinding spool holders. There are several, I took the recommendation and went with the Filamentalist one. Never looked back, and not going to consider a Bambu and AMS either. You can run these spool holders in a drybox, and they will still be easy to load.

[@deniscroop5104]

I really like Prusa they make such high-quality stuff. You definitely can’t say the same about the stuff from China.

[@NWGR]

For the most part this is true (creality, sovol, etc.), but bambu's printers have been incredibly reliable for me.

[@buttersfpv]

what people tend to forget about the MMU3 is the freedom that tuning provides. on paper it cannot use tpu, but if you tune it super nice it is totally tpu capable. I've seen people even do this on the MMU2. when it comes to broken parts and the knowledge base surrounding that, prusa is the better buy especially if you plan to have it for a long while.

[@cybergnetwork588]

I am printing a lot of fibre filaments with the X1C. Never ever had a single clog in 2 years printing any type of filament. I don't know how people manage to fail a print on a Bambu!

[@daveduncan2748]

The nicest thing about the Core One is that it doesn't cost 3 times as much as the K1C. It's only about 2.5 times as much.

[@3DATHENS-qi1tu]

Only 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@stevedegeorge726]

The other nice thing about the buying a core X1 over Bambu is your not supporting a country that sells weapons to Russia.

[@3DATHENS-qi1tu]

@stevedegeorge726 99% of the parts used to build that core one are from china so what are you talking about ?

[@vg23air]

@@stevedegeorge726 better than sending weapons to ukraine, thats how this all started, england and the usa announce they will send weapons to ukraine, putin says no or he will invade, biden sends the weapons in 6 months later, and putin invades :)

[@cedro2252]

And the time you spend to print a part that, at its best is 2.5 times worse than on any Prusa or bambu machine, is only 2.5 times higher

[@Amarand]

Awesome video! I have 11 X1C Combos and three of my printers have dual AMS units. I have the Core One on order, and can’t wait to print PLA with the door closed. I’m also curious about the MMU with the Core One. Guess we’ll find out!

[@KennethScharf]

It looks like there can be two spool holders, one on either side. Also, I wonder if that indented panel can be turned around so that the spool is inside the chamber which would double as a dryer.

[@sevilnatas]

I think Prusa is trying to move beyond the consumer market and start to position themselves into the commercial/engineering market. If successful, they won't have to compete on price as hard as is necessary in the consumer market. I think they will still keep a foot in the consumer market, but I think the diversification is a safe move for them. We see how each generation of 3D printers comes out with some great new features, that pushes the industry forward, but then it immediately devolves into a race to the bottom, when it come to price. It is hard to maintain a business on a foundation like that. Prusa, so far, has been able to maintain a pretty good following, while not having to discount their machines to the point where they loss massive amounts of money. Let's hope the build quality, support and constant improvement keeps them popular!

[@spooky2466]

I agree, if you look at the marketing for the Core One it's noticeable that it has been designed with print farms in mind. The small footprint, reusing existing hardware like the sheets and nozzles, not needing to open doors for pla and petg prints so you save on space on the rack, swaping the sides where the door open, conversion kit and so on. All of these will appeal more the print farm ovner than a single printer owner. Not saying its not a consumer printer but as you said, they are pivoting to business customers and startups which isn't a bad strategy, their printers print high quality parts and run for a long time and easy to maintain. Will se what kind of upgrades they are planning for the Core One

[@kaasmeester5903]

@@spooky2466 It's an interesting thought. Though those small features might have come from the fact that they use their printers in their own print farm, probably including the prototype for this thing. Working with a row of these things every day, a few points to improve are bound to come up.

[@Badspot]

The core one is price competitive though...

[@sevilnatas]

@@Badspot Ah, is it? I was wondering if it was. I just watched a video of Prusa's new automated print farm system that they are rolling out and it looked like it used the core one machines. Seems like the core one can work both as a consumer and commercial machine, if priced right.

[@carlosjosejimenezbermudez9255]

I don't think they're trying, I think they already did that pivot a while back. Prusa's HT printer is a clear example of that, Core One and MK4 are built to fit in an office, and the ROHS certifications only make sense if you have your printers next to you in an office, whereas every other manufacturer doesn't care about that. The devil is in the details, but if you look at their marketing material over time, you'll see that Prusa is trying to keep 2 audiences, the business, engineering and education sector (open source, off the cloud, no spyware, an engineering machine that costs 10K) and the existing Prusa fans who have been building kits for years by now.

[@Richard-F4]

What size nozzle are you using, ? Small fibres , it's going to clog up a small diameter nozzle size

[@KevinMullett]

Hi, new 3D Printing user, as of September, here. It's not that I was likely to buy because a single person posted a video, it was the cumulative confidence effect of seeing many people comparing systems I was considering. I was looking for a reasonably statistically relevant number of reviews.

[@kaaren-aldridge]

I've had several CoreXY machines, each with its own issues,i've spent a lot of time troubleshooting, and I'm starting to think this design isn't right for me,i'm considering other models and might give my old ones to a friend,maybe my new 'Friday' will be a Delta? Lately, I've been checking out flsun's machines,if the CoreXY machines break again, i'll definitely make a change!

[@honkhonk8009]

dude just get an X1C. Litterally just turned it on and it works out of the box. Got it for cheap during black friday. Like its such a reliable printer that both prints insanely fast, with insane quality, while not being a hassle. I never realized how much I hated printing before, untill I got an X1C. I spend so much time actually printing new stuff instead of having to baby the machine. I think I ran it through more hours than my previous printer atp. Litteralyl cus of how convenient it is to get it working.

[@barrettdent405]

Tool recommendation: 3D Printing Canada’s “Extruder Cleaner for 1.75mm 3D Printers” (aka Shepherd’s Cane) I hear you about FormNext, that would be cool. Though I still want to get myself to AMUG first. The door is my biggest gripe with the X1C. I want to see flag style (easily removable, wider range of opening,) hinges and the option to set up to open either direction. I’d wait to see when the new printer starts actually shipping before getting too excited about a Prusa announcement. (Past patterns…)

[@petrxh]

I've had simmilar cloging with spectrum pa6 on qidi plus 4, btw. I don't recommend that filament, I was not able to print anything using it. But good results with polymaker PA6-GF (not CF). You have to neal the print it in the owen, but the printability is very good with no wrapping. I suppose that their pa6-cf will be good as well.

[@strelkomania]

Have you annealed any of your prints or have experience with annealing 3d prints in general? Do you always do it after printing your parts (CF or GF stuff)? I haven't really experimented with it yet but after reading some documentation it seems it is often done to improve the tensile strength of the part and reach its final stiffness. I just wonder how necessary it is.

[@petrxh]

​@strelkomania no, that was my first attempt. But the annealing was recomended from the vendor. They have some substance in the filament, which prevents wrapping, and you can (should) use only up to 50°C for bed, but you have to anneal it, to get rid of the substance (I guess).

[@Adam-qr4jj]

I started with a $1200 prusa v2 (old school), using a hack saw to cut my threaded rod to length and obtaining a 3d printed parts kit on makerfarm.... we have come a long way. Currently the anycubic kobra 3 combo is $300 on eBay....that is the best printer right now. Aside from rock bottom prices anything from the bambu lineup would be my second choice. Price/value number one...but plug and play/ease of use is my second priority. My decision reflects that. Thanks for supporting the community Prusa deserves to have a brass statue made of him, but the time of open source 3d printers in OVER. lets move on to the next revolution of the designs we create with this technology

[@elobiretv]

I dont think open source is dead, Voron is open source and they have much better designs than a lot of what Prusa is doing. It's just a very niche area and most people just want to buy a printer and have it work straight out of the box without any assembly these days. Prusa is just over hyped, they have been selling the same core design for over 10 years and now they are scrambling to catch up to what other people were doing years ago.

[@Felixls]

AMS is a genius thing, currently I'm able to print up to 8 colors, and soon I'll complete the set of 4 AMS. Easy print multiple kg with automatic backup and keeping the filament dry. Not needing to unload and cut manually the filament for me worth every penny.

[@honkhonk8009]

Bought a PVA spool and it sucks cus it wastes so much filament and that shit is wierdly expensive. Luckily though apparently petg works insanely well as a support material, so ima just use it once my PVA runs out.

[@x_ph1l]

It was really hard not to buy Core One on release. But I will be buying it early next year. It works perfectly for my needs. I wanted a reliable closed chamber CoreXY printer that I could support and repair for 10+ years, with opensource software (no locks and no call home stuff) which Bambu, unfortunately, is not. At this point I was thinking of getting K1C, putting Klipper and some hardened nozzle on it and getting some spare parts for the future. But, luckily, Prusa came up with something better. The only downside for me, personally, is small'ish print surface (I would've wanted 250x250), since sometimes I want to print a large ducting adapters, which Prusa would not be able to do (but I have a bed slinger for that). p.s. The price was surprisingly good. I thought it would be way more.

[@warlockd]

Its why I tend to buy the uprade kids because by that point they have figured out the issues. I had an original MK2, to MK2S, MK3 to finaly MK4. There is a one conversion kit but I want to see how the MMU3 works with it firstl.

[@ErmanKutlu]

How do you change nozzles on Bambu and Core One?

[@strelkomania]

I believe changing nozzles on the prusa core one will be similar to how we change nozzles on the MK4s. For the bambu lab systems, the construction of their hot end is a bit different. The hot end assembly comes out as one piece and the original part directly from bambu lab doesn't make it so you can remove the nozzle by itself I dont think - you have to replace the whole hotend piece (including the thermistor, heater pad, heat sink & nozzle assembly, which are one unit). If you use another brand of hot end compatible with the Bambu Lab printers, some of those are actually made so you can remove and replace only the nozzle instead of the full hot end. They are designed with a screw-in nozzle similar to most of the desktop printers you're probably familiar with ( I got one off amazon as a quick replacement during my PA6-CF adventures). Good question :)

[@ErmanKutlu]

@@strelkomania Got it, thanks a lot!

[@DatMammut76]

I, too, have been forced to use a .4 nozzle for testing purposes on fiber filled materials and it stinks haha. I just clogged our two brand new diamondback nozzles in the farm in the first HOUR I installed them printing ezpc-cf. I feel your pain. 🙏 The new Prusa looks phenomenal. I ordered immediately on announcement because, more than anything, the nextruder and auto belt tensioners. This is going to be a H O R S E of a printer and I cannot wait to get it.

[@3DJapan]

You got a new subscriber today.

[@strelkomania]

welcome to the club :) hopefully you enjoy the videos!

[@hotfix7387]

I would love to see not only what you are testing with the PA6-CF, but how you went through dialing in your settings. I show your videos to my daughter to try and get her interested in 3D printing and engineering in general. She is 11 and shows mild interest, but she seems mostly interested in the things I can make for her versus the art of making or the engineering behind it. Do you have any tips on how to engage her more on the engineering side of things?

[@itsmetheghost4993]

I feel like prusa is missing the boat, I'm looking at a Qidi Plus 4 with a bigger print volume and actively heated chamber, their discord tells me it has automatic belt tensioners.

[@jpeero]

when you use PA6-CF in your printer, you need to keep the hotend always hot. at the end of a print, dont shut it off, load a new filament, and purge it a bit with a softer plastic like PLA or PETG. this will save your hot end.

[@strelkomania]

this is a great tip - thank you :)

[@ZEUS-fw8sc]

Hi Strekomania to print cf nylon 6 try harden steel nozzle have you heard of the 22 idex v3 heated chamber up to 100c helps with engineering materials

[@Randomiz500]

the upgrade kit is the main arror imo, coz it forced Prusa to limit the core one to stay within the thoughts and dimentions of an older printer.

[@strelkomania]

this is a really good point about the conversion kit.

[@jared1321]

It’s a good move for selling upgrade kits but maybe a sacrifice for new buyers

[@lifeteen2]

Yeah, and I wouldn't have been sad at all if there wasn't a conversion to the Core One, it's a whole new design, not just an iteration on their i3 design.

[@theglowcloud2215]

Would be cool if Prusa made a larger CoreXY not called the XL, but I guess that isn't in the cards

[@zaired]

PA6- CF always clogs, it's very bad it clogged my k1 max and my friend's k1

[@logicalfundy]

Wow, that's quite the clog. Took the head apart and everything - I'd be tempted to just replace the nozzle and get a new one. But then again, not that familiar with Bambu, is this something they are prone to do?

[@Petch85]

So Christmas is near, I think you might like Hollyland LARK M2 or something similar especially if you are going to tradeshow like formnext. There are plenty of other options, LARK M2 just seems to have a ok audio quality and noise cancellation and not be too expensive. (there is mobile, camera and combo versions with USB-C and lightning, so it can be a little confusing)

[@strelkomania]

THANK YOU! I have been looking into an upgrade for a wireless lapel mic for interviews and my own videos. I have been thinking between the DJI one and the rode wireless Go so I will look into this one you suggest. Currently in terms of ease I have just been filming on the GoPro my friend has kindly donated to the channel and working with the built in mic. Depending on the lighting the quality is great for video but audio could be better (will upgrade as I keep going!). I have a much nicer camera I have used to film in previous videos (the pottery video intro/outro and the intro for the carbon fiber transfer filament video). However sometimes (often) I just want a quick set up to film what I'm doing in the moment or my current thoughts so I have been gravitating more towards the gopro (do I call myself lazy because of this?). I appreciate your comment :)

[@Petch85]

@@strelkomania You have clearly already thought about this and you are the best person to know what will work best for you. So fell free to ignore my suggestion or add it to your list of prospects as you see fit. You are doing great and I just wanted to mention the option. Since I have not used any of them I don't know which one is easiest to use. Where I live the DJI Mic 2 is quite expensive. RØDE Wireless ME, GO and pro makes sure that all price ranges are coveret. Shure movemic is also an option and I love all my Shure products, but they are probably the most expensive option. I think the cheapest Røde is cheaper than the LARK M2. The thing I liked about the LARK M2 is the small size and the magnetic mount. I thought you were using you phone for recording and the LARK M2 looks to be very easy to use with a mobile phone. I am not sure how good they are using together with GOPro, the wind protector also looks a little frustrating to use (and I have not seen many videos where people are using the wind protectors, you can also just mount them under the shirt and use that to protect against the wind ). I guess you can always manually sync video and audio with a clap and some video editors can aligned audio and video automagically, but it is still more work. You can find youtube reviews of all of them and I have also seen plenty of videos using one of them and they can also sound great. I guess you can call if lazy, but I am an engineer so I call it efficient. I strongly believe in the benefits of removing friction, much music have be written on just an acoustic guitar or by whistling over the phone. Not because it was the best way to capture the magic, but because it was the easiest. So I think you should keep trying to make it easier and easier for yourself to make a video. When it comes to video quality I think you can improve the video quality more by improving you light setup than you can by improving the camera, lences etc. A phone, GoPro and whatever fancy camera you have looks good enough to me that it does not subtract from the video. I do have hearing problems thus I might be more sensitive than others but I am much more sensitiv to bad audio than bad video. (I think the audio in this video was ok, I had no problems hearing and understanding the video 🙂, I just thought a wireless lavalier microphone would be easy to use for alle the videos where you are not sitting in front of the computer 🤷‍♂)

[@karellen00]

To me the Prusa seems a better printer, but mostly not because of the printer design itself, but because of the philosophy of the two companies. I never really liked Bambu, they don't seem to be made to be repairable, everything is proprietary, and there are privacy and security concerns. I like the Prusa also because of their upgrade path and modding possibilities, you can even wake up one day and say "screw you Prusa, I'm installing Klipper!". Mind that I am deep into the rabbit hole of 3D printing, all my printers are DIY (and I went the full circle from cartesian, to coreXY, and back to cartesian even if cross gantry because I didn't really like coreXY), I think both are excellent if you want to stay on the surface with their profiles, but at least the Prusa allows you to go deep if you will so.

[@roysigurdkarlsbakk3842]

What sort of hotend was that? .4 nozzle or .6?

[@strelkomania]

@@roysigurdkarlsbakk3842 .4 nozzle and that's why I think it clogged often (that and I think I was having heat creep issues, but slightly lowering my print temp and increasing my hotend cooling helped a whole lot). I know it's recommended to print with .6mm or greater for this material however I was constrained to the .4mm nozzle since all of our other samples were printed with it for previous material tensile tests and I need to replicate the same bead width and toolpath for these PA6-CF samples I was trying to print... So that the collected data can be directly comparable. Hopefully this makes sense

[@roysigurdkarlsbakk3842]

@@strelkomania It makes perfectly sense - using .4 nozzle with this material is like asking for trouble ;) Better go with .6 - the difference isn't that much in quality, but it's way faster and won't clog as easily.

[@spooknik-z3t]

Awww yea M|O|O|N - Dust @4:49 🤘

[@strelkomania]

@@spooknik-z3t yes!! Do you know it?

[@spooknik-z3t]

@@strelkomania Hell yea! it's one of my all time favorites. So chill and has a really good energy.

[@Bob-bs3ev]

I print PA6 and PA12-CF on my QIDI X max 3 without any trouble.

[@strelkomania]

@@Bob-bs3ev I finally dialed in my process. I think I was clogging so much because of my printer profile and "heat creep". I was using the default profile for PA in Bambu studio but kept getting random clogging. Dropping my nozzle temp slightly then increasing hotend cooling and decreasing retract speed and distance helped a bunch. Since those changes, I haven't clogged ! A total win on your part that you don't have these issues

[@Goosefang]

I’m not going to buy something just because the content creators I watch are reviewing it, but because of their review the item and or features appeal to me.

[@johnnyhellfire6]

I'd be more interested if the price was way lower

[@strelkomania]

i can totally agree! same with like the magneto X by peopoly. id have a lot more machines in my line up if i had unlimited coins ...

[@johnnyhellfire6]

@strelkomania agreed, right now if I buy another printer, the cost won't be any higher then $400, maaaaaaybe 500$

[@GloboStark]

calling the mk3 an i3 mk3S+ was immensely too snazzy for my hearing strelko

[@strelkomania]

@@GloboStark LOOL I had to give credit where credit was due 😭

[@ALLMX_XD]

Honestly for me Prusa is way more expensive to Bambu and I think this new Prusa Printer will have to compete not with Bambu but with the Creality Clones of the Bambu X1C.

[@ivansmith654]

I have 40 years plus of experience in mechanically things I would build the biggest 3D printer today if I could find the parts just for fun I love tools and puzzles and I have been looking for the hardest thing I could do and that I could afford to do; so Space X is off the table but what you do is on the table! I fully support the right to repair what is mine down to the small part possible and I suupport open source software Prusa does that I did want one! I live in France I have to be mindful of noise I make because here in France some neighbors live closer together than what you see in the States and I have four of them that would here the MK4S going off like a jet engine because of where I would have to put this machine so all noise makers are out that would include all Bambu Lab machines! I have been researching for nearly 3 months now on most days and I believe I have understanding of the 3D printing world base on what others have said which now includes you! Yes you got a new subscriber and thumbs up for a good video all because I did learn something even if it was a small thing it was a helpful thing for that thank you! I am disappointed with the Core One for one thing only the size although Prusa is some what behind the the much needed new tech Bambu Lab has and can make a lot cheaper. I do hear Bambu Lab does not support the right to repair everything in your machine and is closed source on the softwear two things I cannot give up on even if I could get this machine for free! There are to many moving parts in 3D printers to thorw away a 1000 dollar machine just because one gear at the bottom of that machine lost a tooth to that one gear that is a big no from me! Yes Bambu Lab makes a great machine from what I hear and yes you are doing a repair however I go deeper into the machine because I can and Bambu Lab will not stop me from that however I am not likely to buy a Bambu Lab machine for those two reason! Prusa is the biggest disappointment the 256 squard built plate is one to meet or beat that is a Bambu Lab limit and Prusa failed big time IMO! I will spend a lot of my money to go backwards in time and space that is not going to happen with me! I don't follow what content creator say just because their make content I like! So no to Bambu lab because of limits their put me on and no to Prusa because their are pushing me back to the dark ages, so I keep looking! Creality K2 Plus is next on my list to research! I see it is a monster of a machine but it is quiet one that matters here! Are you using the right tool to unplug the nozzle I hear there is a better big tool to unplug than that thin needle I saw you use but I am not sure of the size of your nozzle and all the tools but I would do more reseacrh because it looks like your working to hard to do a easy job however that comes a guy who has never touch a 3D printer so do some more research would be what I would say! Good luck next time! That is one cool room! Peace to you!

[@Chicha-theskeletonboy]

Little did I know that I , the Chicha Skeleton will tell you that you are just 600 hrs away from 💰

[@strelkomania]

🤯😲

[@dantonarthurchan5003]

Honestly why don’t you take a look at the voron and ask Bambu hey doesn’t this look like the voron??? Instead of saying hey this coreOne looks like a Bambu??

[@strelkomania]

@@dantonarthurchan5003 fair point 😅 they all take notes from each other moving forward

[@LilApe]

Yeah bambu ceo even said they took inspiration from voron and even use voron designs in their patent filings. Too many people out here act like bambu was the 1st to make a coreXY printer.

[@sceromakes7437]

For the price Build a Voron, way easier to maintain.

[@LordPadriac]

I think "copying" is a bit too strong a concept for 3D printing. There's only so many configurations you can make a bed slinger in and there's only so many configurations you can make an enclosed core X/Y printer in. I mean that's like saying Samsung is copying Sony by making rectangular TVs. Or saying that Pratt & Whitney is copying Lockheed Martin by also making planes. It's a completely pointless statement that only appears to diminish the competition. There is exactly one configuration to make a bed slinger in to have it work and there is only one configuration to make an enclosed Core X/Y printer in and have it work. This isn't copying; this is just the physics of the materials and stresses involved.

[@AdventurePrinting]

Dora.. BUILD THAT VORON! 🤣🤣🤣

[@strelkomania]

I KNOW I WILL 🥲😪😭

[@saliston]

It's rich saying other companies are copying Bambu when they literally stole all their designs

[@Design_no]

Literally which did they steal?

[@TGWMS]

almost 10 minutes to unclogged nozzle :-DDDDD really nice how Bambu is user friendly printer :-D

[@baraBober]

they recommend using 0.6mm nozzle for carbon fiber filaments

[@strelkomania]

I know it's recommended to print with .6mm or greater for this material however I was constrained to the .4mm nozzle since all of our other samples were printed with it for previous material tensile tests and I need to replicate the same bead width and toolpath for these PA6-CF samples I was trying to print... So that the collected data can be directly comparable. Hopefully this makes sense 😅 Yes i was using the .4 nozzle and that's why I think it clogged often (that and I think I was having heat creep issues, but slightly lowering my print temp and increasing my hotend cooling helped a whole lot).

[@ZEUS-fw8sc]

if you want to spend 15k for 22 idex v3 engineering from vision miner

[@plum3d]

Prusa missed the bus on this one. Build volume is odd, price point is too high considering you can get an X1C with AMS, at the same price. Moving away from ReRap design constraints means ultimately they are becoming less and less open source and moddable. 290C max nozzle is a huge miss. Ultimately they will sell some to their faithful but they won't attract new users as they need to. More and more people will continue to flock to Bambu and even Creality if they get their quality up as the K2 seems to be built much better than their K1 series initially was.

[@LilApe]

Prusa core one is $1200 USD fully assembled and $950 as a kit. X1C with AMS is $1500. Definitely not the same price. 290c is perfectly fine and more than enough to print all the way up to nylon. X1C is only 10c hotter and prints all the same stuff as the core one. The hotend on the Core one is better due to not being fragile and made out of pot metal like the X1C. On the X1C, bumping infill is enough to bend the hotend. Core one is also faster nozzle swaps and hotend swaps. While prusa can become "less and less open source and modifiable", They're still significantly more open source and modifiable than the X1C or anything bambu lab for that matter. The only things not really open source on their printers these days are their buddy boards and nextruder. Both of which are made in house in CZ

[@kylehough621]

Agreed. The price is actually great for a Prusa machine. You can’t compare a sale price vs a retail price.

[@simwark]

Why anyone buys an X1C today over buying P1S with a few upgrades i dont know, at that cost it's the better option currently imo. Now if they had brought out an IDEX as an inbetween for the XL i would be interested. Unless you are already in the Prusa ecosystem im not sure its going to pull in new users.

[@1337BlueBird]

The firmware of the prusa is open. All sent data are clear. No bullshit chinese cloud and encrypted data. You really can't complain about the closed parts of prusa if you compare the prusa with a bambu.

[@robblincoln2152]

@@LilApe good points all. I think the “less open source” agenda is a bit of a red herring. It is true they have yet to release the design files for the CORE One, but they do release wiring schematic, stl files, and maybe even step files for the metal frame. That’s not nothing. And yes the Nextruder is an in-house item, as is their buddy boards, but you technically don’t need to use those, so long as there is something you can flash their rom into or extrude filaments with. Personally, I’m not handy enough to do lots of modding. I’m glad they appear to be working with third party producers to come up with plug-n-play solutions for their machines.

[@Design_no]

Prusa have priced themselves out of their traditional market.

[@strelkomania]

Yeah ...

[@Petch85]

I would always look up more than one source before buying something like a 3D printer. I do like prusa for the ability to make changes, I love to mod stuff and prusa makes it easier. There are some things that I like to have in my next 3D printer. Silent stepper motor control, heated printbed with flexible steel sheets, auto bed leveling, direct extruder, made with T-Slot extrusions, closed chamber, controllable chamber fans and offline printing (no pc connection). I could make my own chamber, fan control and heating for the chamber and with T-Slot extrusions I could add some triangulation to make the printer super stiff. I don't like things making unnecessary noises, thus silent stepper motor controllers and I would like to print in TPU, thus direct extruder. I have never printet in two materials befor But combining PLA and TPU seems like something that I could have fun with while designing things to print. So I feel like the X1C with AMS could be an ok compromise, or maybe Creality 3D Ender-5 S1, Creality 3D K1 Max but I guess the new CORE One could also be fine.

[@TranquilityTerrace]

Really girl?? How about using 0.6mm hardened nozzle? Carbon Fiber filament will almost always clog anything less than 0.6

[@strelkomania]

you are so right, little old me didn't realize that until after the oopsies happened. also I thought I would be just fine since bambu lab documentation said I "should" be able to get away with 0.4mm, even though 0.6mm is more recommended I played around and found out ! I actually have been printing a few days now without a clog STILL using my .4mm nozzle and what helped was changing my print settings a bit. I increased my hot end fan speeds and decreased both retraction speed & distance. I think a big contributor of the clogging was my heatcreep issue and thats why the print settings helped. I also have my filament in a heated filament dryer, loading it directly to the printer. I know it's recommended to print with .6mm or greater for this material however I was constrained to the .4mm nozzle since all of our other samples were printed with it for previous material tensile tests and I need to replicate the same bead width and toolpath for these PA6-CF samples I was trying to print... so that the collected data can be directly comparable. Hopefully this makes sense, I am making all these tensile samples for a material database so its pretty important to try and keep bead width/bead height consistent).

[@RyanMercer]

Hmmmm

[@strelkomania]

Hmmm

[@jkasso7]

Relax with that face card on the thumbnail😭

[@RetroByLaw]

Prusa is like the Apple of printers on a Name base they dont really aim for the everyday person with Price but Based on open platform is good but the prices are way to high you would still need a 300 buck addon to make it Multy color on the Core One

[@TorianTammas]

Apple is fully asian build and usually China assembled. So nobody knows why anyone pays their prices.

[@dennisjames9091]

Actually Prusa is the opposite of Apple. They want to make their products as open, moddable and serviceable as possible.

[@DaleCooper12]

I think it depends if this "everyday" person wants to have a reliable and quality printer, pay more at the start and then not worry about some problems, or pay for shitty cheaper printer from China which will have a lot of issues in time. So, I definitely go for Prusa. I have MK4S and upgrade from there is not so expensive.

[@carloscastanyeda]

You remind me of Caroline

[@strelkomania]

Caroline who? Don't think I know her

[@beepboop8184]

Copy features from a company that copies A TON from RepRap community? Come on.

[@SOLO-QUE]

bikini 3d printer reviews...... just throwing it out there. you could really milk the views...

[@FrequenciaJogos]

I have mixed feelings about the Core One. I own a Prusa MK3S, but I rarely use it since I got two Flashforge 5Ms. Honestly, I don’t see any major advantage with the Prusa Core One. I’m not even talking about the price. In the past, everybody seems to copy Prusa, but now it feels like Prusa is racing to copy Bambu Lab. I'm curious to see what feature BambuLab will add in their next printer, while Prusa is lagging behind adding nothing new.

[@logicalfundy]

I think Prusa is pushing more towards catering to the DIY / customization crowd. Being based in the EU, I don't think they can ever "catch up" with Bambu in terms of price/features. China can just do things cheaper. So they need to have their own angle, and that angle seems to be DIY / being able to upgrade existing printers / excellent support / high quality.

[@FrequenciaJogos]

@@logicalfundy I don't disagree with you. But I still think Prusa should bring 'something else' to the table. They were the ones who made features like heated beds, removable PEI sheets, and power-loss recovery standard. Features that Creality (and others) copy many times. Now, CoreXY and 'high-speed' printing are signatures of BambuLab. So, what does the Core One bring? "Nothing". We can consider "other things", like repairability, offline printing... But, that’s the sad reality for Prusa right now. I really think they need to try something new (imagine like inkjet filament coloring during printing, 5-axis printing, or something else entirely).

[@TorianTammas]

If Prusa aim for modding, why isn't it possible to get a second printing head for the Core one. This is a feature I want. Otherwise the core one is recycled material from prior builds in a housing.

[@logicalfundy]

@TorianTammas mod it in yourself. That's the point of making a moddable printer. Also, the world doesn't revolve around your desire to have a second printing head, heh.