My Thoughts on Racism in Germany VS the United States

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Taylor in Transit

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@zamm4062
@zamm4062 3 жыл бұрын
In my German high school the motto was ‘school without racism, school with courage.’ It was written over the entry, i read it every morning when i walked inside. I had a literal nazi in my class and due to covid, my asian classmates faced a lot of racism (turning away from them ‘don’t infect me!’ Stuff like that, nothing physical). A lot of German think they’re not racist because they’re not antisemitic or don’t say the n word, but then say stuff like ‘refugees steal our jobs’ or ask asians if they eat dogs/cats. I’m white, so i never experienced that myself, but it’s something you can’t ignore when u live in germany.
@GTsampiras
@GTsampiras 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in Bremen only for a year to do a Master's Degree there. Mainly, I talked to Greek women that went to german schools there and they told me that they called them shitgrieche / shitgreek. I was quite socked and started seeing that Germans thought that they weren't racists because they don't say or do anything against Jews anymore. But I noticed that Germans curse and say bad things about Asians or greeks and other races.
@PorciunculoMoreno
@PorciunculoMoreno Жыл бұрын
That is true. Once a group of young german guys were talking about Pablo Escobar as a hero. So, I asked them if there is a difference between someone who murdered a few amounts of people and who murdered thousands. The answer shocked me. They thought that only Hitler and the Nazis were bad enough.
@lotharschepers2240
@lotharschepers2240 4 жыл бұрын
As an older native German, I like to thank you for your courage to speak about racism in my Nation. But I think it is a bit more complex than our language could express it. As someone who is born and raised near the German border, I was always aware of the fact that a few miles in the west I become the foreigner so I never did use the word with any kind of negative idea behind it and that is my personal point about your comments. Yes, there are folks who did use words in the way to discriminate others but not everytime it is done that way. However, discrimination is the first step towards racism and this one is the safest path to hell.
@jackienims
@jackienims 4 жыл бұрын
This is such an important topic of discussion & I appreciate you filming it. It has been such a hard week seeing all the deaths (including the black woman shot in her house) & people on facebook sharing memes of riots not being ok, when they didn't care to post the real issue as you said. As a Kenyan born, black person who lived in America, it took me a while to grasp the anti-blackness/anti-minorities sentiment in America & I just couldn't believe things I saw on the news or stories I heard from people. I now realize that it's not just America that has these problems, that is just where most people are vocal & unafraid of calling out racism. I am hoping that all of this educates people, as uncomfortable as it is. #blackpeoplematter #peopleofcolormatter #stoptryingtoeraseus
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story! We all really do need to unite around this issue and be persistent about change!
@patriciamillin1977
@patriciamillin1977 Жыл бұрын
An important story that should be heard. I agree that racism is everywhere. It’s loudest in the States, especially since the election of Trump, who validated and emboldened the racists. There is also more police violence against POC in the States than elsewhere. However, none of that exonerates other countries from their own racism, even if it is more subtle. We should all do whatever we can to combat it when we see it.
@weisserwolf5655
@weisserwolf5655 4 жыл бұрын
I habe been privileged to experience both the educational system in the US and in Germany. I think it would be fair to reflect the quite different focus that is spent on both structural (contemporary) racism and its historical manifestation and abysses - in Germany that clearly being mainly but not only anti-Semitism that lead to the Hokocause but also to other unspeakable injustice throughout the ages. You do mention in your video that this is being taken more seriously- but I would suggest that the response in the educational system would be an important factor to mention. I would also like to remind you that tge culture of commemoration of the Holocaust and the mechanics that made it possible enjoy a way higher priority than any comparable concept in the US. Germany's political representatives have for decades again and again underscored commemoration and reflection about the special responsibility that results from German history to be an integral element of German identity. And to be crystal clear: As a German I wholeheartedly support that. Does that make us better people? No. Did that abolish any form of discrimination and made us a perfect society? Of course not. Does it render the symptoms of racism that you rightfully accounted less relevant? Absolutely not. The US as a society needs to find its own path to confront the demons of its past and present. I personally think Germany has still some way to go but it was the right decision in the 60s and 70s (after some pressure from within society and from other countries) to expose and analyse history and to assume responsibility.
@PianistStefanBoetel
@PianistStefanBoetel 4 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@swanpride
@swanpride 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Though I am still glad that nobody has to fear that the police might just kill them basically for the crime of existing and then getting away with it. We still have work to do, but this work will be so much easier because we don't start from quite the same atmosphere of fear and injustice.
@leslieannepalermo7155
@leslieannepalermo7155 4 жыл бұрын
@@swanpride , I recently commented on a different video that when I was in both Elementary School and high school in the U.S. we learned that the Civil War era was a war against slavery. We also learned that Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves in 1863 with The Emancipation Proclamation. I also learned about how schools were segregated in parts of the country during the Jim Crow era that she mentioned in this video. However, there is still so much more that the U.S. as a nation needs to do in terms of education.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Sergius. Thank you for your comment. I agree that a country needs to acknowledge their own history (which the US has never truly done) and take steps to support those communities that were affected - whether that is through criminal justice reform, education reform, or even reparations.
@drbaerchen
@drbaerchen 4 жыл бұрын
Also something my German teacher told us in class recently, while talking about what is the sense of education/specified education in university. He told us that the goal of education, after 1945, was to never let something like the holocaust happen again. That's why we are taught about so much history of racism in germany but also other countries. So that it will never happen again. I feel like, that's definitely missing in the US, the children get taught to obey their elders, pledge their alliance to a flag or they might get punished, that's how it was during the third reich in germany. Its kind of terrifying to see.
@21MEPHISTO01
@21MEPHISTO01 4 жыл бұрын
Schwieriges Thema: In Deutschland gab es mehrere 'Gastarbeiter'-Wellen, wobei auch viele Südeuropäer wie Italiener und Griechen dabei waren. Gelungene Integration sieht natürlich anders aus, aber man hat eine Art Ghettoisierung und geschlossene Subkultur zugelassen, in der die Zugereisten weiter ihre Kultur ausleben konnten- sie waren ja nur temporäre 'Gäste'. Auch wenn jetzt schon die dritte Generation in Deutschland lebt, so bezeichnen sich viele Türkischstämmige als Türken, in der Türkei werden diese allerdings meist als Deutsche gesehen. Interessant ist ja auch, dass gerade in Deutschland viele erdogantreue Nationalisten leben und wählen- prozentual weit über türkischem Durchschnitt. Viele sogenannten Gastarbeiter aus der Türkei kamen aus Anatolien und waren kaum gebildet: Kultureller Austausch und Integration hat über Jahrzehnte eher zufällig stattgefunden und man hat große Fehler begangen.
@dl5136
@dl5136 4 жыл бұрын
Die ganzen Erdogan Fans in Deutschland regen sich lustigerweise immer über Deutsche, die die Leute in die Türkei abschieben wollen, auf. Türken/Deutschtürken profitieren derart von Deutschland in Sachen Wirtschaft und Demokratie und wählen dennoch zum Großteil einen Diktator, der Kritiker verhaftet, gegen Akademiker vorgeht und Journalisten ohne Grundlage wegsperrt. Da fehlt es einem wirklich an Verständnis. Sie leben in Deutschland und treten alle Rechte, die dieses Land ausmachen, mit Füßen. Ich kenne solche Leute und sie sind einfach stroh dumm. Ich frage mich meist, wieso meist Zuwanderer in Deutschland, die muslimischen Glaubens sind, besonders negativ auffallen. Die meisten eingewanderten Europäer, Russen, Asiaten und Amerikaner sind meist bestens integriert. Sie akzeptieren die deutsche Kultur ohne ihre eigene Kultur aufzugeben. Ich glaube, dass unsere christlich freiheitliche Kultur in weiten Teilen nicht mit einer muslimisch konservativen Kultur kompatibel ist. Es geht dabei nicht um Individuen, ich kenne einige Türken, die vorbildlich integriert sind. Aber eine große Anzahl passt einfach nicht zu unserer Gesellschaft, weil sie nicht unsere Werte akzeptieren und leben. Auf beiden Seiten wurden Fehler begangen. Aber die Zuwanderer müssen sich doch mehr bemühen als die Einheimischen.
@swanpride
@swanpride 4 жыл бұрын
Dazu muss man aber auch sagen, dass die Türken, über die redest, eher die "auffällige Minderheit" sind. Auch bei den Türken ist die große Mehrheit spätestens bei der dritten Generation vollkommen eingedeutscht. Natürlich pflegen die noch zu einem gewissen Grade ihre Wurzeln in dem Sinne, dass du auf einmal sehr viele von denen auflaufen siehst, wenn das Stadttheater eine Türkische Oper oder ähnliches zeigt. Aber ansonsten sind komplett intrigiert. Oder, anders gesagt, ist Özdemir Deutscher oder Türke? Was ist mit Adnan Maral oder Aylin Tezel? Das "Problem" ist nur, dass die Mehrzahl der Deutschen diese Türken nie zu Gesicht bekommt. Sie sehen halt immer nur die "Problemfälle" (um die man sich natürlich auch kümmern muss, aber um Reichsbürger muss man sich schließlich auch kümmern). Es stimmt aber, dass andere Einwanderergruppen anpassungsfähiger sind. Andererseits hatten Deutsche gegenüber Polen und Italiener in den 1970ern noch einen Haufen Vorurteile, inzwischen ist das nicht mehr so. Wer weiß, in weiteren 20 Jahren ist es vielleicht eine andere Gruppe, die wir als "problematisch" betrachten.
@swanpride
@swanpride 4 жыл бұрын
@D L Mit eienr konservativen Muslimischen Kultur nicht, allerdings mit den Amerikanischen Evangelikalen oder Scientologen auch nicht so wirklich. Zum Glück gibt es auch weniger konservative Muslims. Es wäre allerdings eine gute Idee, wenn unser Staat die liberalen Muslime mehr unterstützen und die Herausbildung eines Deutschen Islams fördern würde, statt zu versuchen, mit Erdogan-treuen Imanen zurechtzukommen.
@swanpride
@swanpride 4 жыл бұрын
@Pustekuchen Nun, dasselbe könnte man über die Katholische Kirche sagen, die, kleine Erinnerung, über Jahre hinweg Kinder in diesem Land missbraucht hat und noch immer für Werte steht, die direkt gegen unsere Grundrechte gehen. In Kontrast dazu ist die LMD (Liberale Muslime Deutschland) sogar Homosexuellen gegenüber aufgeschlossen. Und Syrische Muslime sind ohnehin anders gestrickt. Die haben mit dem ganzen Sunni gegen Shia Mist nicht viel am Hut . Ich bin alt genug mich daran zu erinnern wie es war als Italiener noch "Spaghettifresser" waren, Polen ja nur Autos geklaut haben und Kosovo-Flüchtlinge angeblich ein Riesenproblem. Ist schon interessant wie sich die Perspektiven ändern. Es gibt da sicher Probleme, die man bezüglich Immigration angehen muss. Aber man kann Menschen nicht einfach über einen Kamm scheren.
@MrAlterfalter123
@MrAlterfalter123 4 жыл бұрын
Wenn man nicht über einen Kamm scheren soll, verstehe ich dein Beispiel mit der katholischen Kirche nicht. Hat die Kirche angewiesen, dass Kinder misshandelt werden sollen oder haben Mitglieder bzw Vertreter der Kirche misshandelt? Ok, man hat diese Vertreter der Kirche nach bekanntwerden der Fälle nicht der Justiz übergeben, sondern das intern geregelt. Aber dennoch bleibt es über einen Kamm scheren, wenn man die Kirche als ganzes verantwortlich macht
@van03de
@van03de 4 жыл бұрын
10:40 I couldn't tell that you are 50 % Asian before watching this video. Thank you for this deep insight. As always, you are very structured even when you get more emotional.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment! It means a lot 😊
@janikb3538
@janikb3538 3 жыл бұрын
I could
@purplelove3666
@purplelove3666 3 жыл бұрын
I could
@boahkeinbockmehr
@boahkeinbockmehr 4 жыл бұрын
I think in Germany the issue is less about racism and more about xenophobia
@lonimonii
@lonimonii 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t really think so. Most German just want to get to know a person
@thkempe
@thkempe 4 жыл бұрын
It is simply the unwillingness to allow everyone in the world to take advantage of the land of your people. Not just related to social security, but also to the labor market and educational institutions. Let people advance their own lands, not harvest foreign crops they haven't sown.
@bellathemusicaddict
@bellathemusicaddict 4 жыл бұрын
@C J There are quite a few blacks (not as many as in the US, but you still see them) and there have been for about a hundred years. I recommend watching Afro Germany (documentary here on youtube) to understand the history of blacks in Germany.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation!
@einherjar4902
@einherjar4902 4 жыл бұрын
@@bellathemusicaddict I grew up in germany (28 now) in a small village. The first time in my life seeing a black person in real life was after i turned 20 Though there were a ton of kurds and russians
@holyfield8284
@holyfield8284 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe a social security net, like in germany, helps building a safer society. The people protesting in the US have nothing left to loose! So what...
@mathildewesendonck7225
@mathildewesendonck7225 4 жыл бұрын
Holy Field that’s the problem, this is how riots and civil wars start...
@hansmayer7652
@hansmayer7652 4 жыл бұрын
Thats Socialism!!!!!!!!* *typical murica patriot answer For other countrys it is mystery why the usa still stick to their system of law and order, education, healthcare and unregulated market. Only a few profit from it and a big part of the population don't get any benefit or do worse.
@frankbartel1789
@frankbartel1789 4 жыл бұрын
@@hansmayer7652 yes, wonderfully
@stirbjoernwesterhever6223
@stirbjoernwesterhever6223 4 жыл бұрын
In Germany there are rules against some kind of hate speech, therefore in opposition to the US you would get punished for certain hate speeches. Studies over the years had shown that there is a potential von racism in different degrees for about 10 to 20% of the population (depends on region) and that is pretty much the percentage the right wing party AfD would get at elections. But you're right, it is not as socialy accepted to be openly racist, then in the US esp. since Trump came to power. And you're right, that the racism in Germany is more directed to the Middle east and North Africa then to black or asian people. There are a lot of youtube videos out there from black Americans living in Germany with statements how little racism they experienced in Germany compared to the US.
@nothingmuch44
@nothingmuch44 4 жыл бұрын
I am an African student in Germany. The only thing that we don't face here is police killing,. The racism in Germany against Africans isn't any less. an African-American in Germany when they here they are Americans may change a way they are treated against the way they will treat or see an African from the continent,. so don't follow what American blacks experience to make the survey,. I have been facing a lot of racism in Germany from the grocery stores to being called an ape in the street, at the work place, finding an apartment, and I do not live in AFD state, I live in NRW that is claim to be very liberal, yes, the police brutality is def. not as crazy as it is in the U.S. but racism is just as HEAVY against blacks in Europe like everywhere else.
@holgerstratmann8393
@holgerstratmann8393 4 жыл бұрын
@@nothingmuch44 First of all: I'm sorry you've had those experiences, I'd hope this was different.... I think nobody says that racism doesn't exist in Germany, it exists everywhere, sadly (and btw., it also exists in Africa, just sayin'). Still, when you say "it isn't any less", how do you know that? From what I've seen (a German who has lived in the US for two years and who follows US politics very closely), it's at a completely different level in the US - for many of the reasons mentioned in this video... Also... what you're seeing in Germany mostly isn't racism, it's xenophobia (discrimination against foreigners, not against race). I'm not saying that's any better, but it's still very important to make that distinction. You kind of said that yourself: It's very different for black Africans vs. black Americans. That means it's based on country (and social status), not race. Xenophobia may be just as bad when it affects you, but it's easier to treat and tends to decrease when the economy is good... when we're talking about "policy implications" / how to treat the problem there are many well-known and working measures against xenophonia, e.g. integration, language classes, training, finding good jobs for people... for racism... I'm not sure anybody really knows what to do about it other than "wait a generation or two" :(( As far as Germany specifically is concerned, the huge spike in immigration in 2015/2016 (en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/graph/png/Immigration_to_Germany/0/b65cd2aacf80fc75bca38e2c58ed59d84ef08913.png ) has increased xenophobia a lot, it will hopefully (and likely!!) get better over time... Best of luck, I hope you can enjoy your time in Germany anyway!
@nothingmuch44
@nothingmuch44 4 жыл бұрын
@@holgerstratmann8393 my point is that I have seen some people online trying to downplay the racism in Germany,. Yes I will totally agree that German racists tends to hide it better than American racists, and police in Germany aren't going about shooting black people dead in the street, but as an African in Germany that have put in time and money trying integrate into this system, learn the language, culture and everything as much as I can, I just find it annoying when I get treated in a not so good manner by some idiots way before they even hear me speak or even try to get to know me.
@Vojtos3
@Vojtos3 4 жыл бұрын
nothingmuch44 You have to win the original population’s trust. Even though it sounds harsh, it is nothing abnormal. Make native German friends and you will be accepted:) I live in a state right next to Germany and I was also look down upon at the beginning. Don’t give up on trying and show them (us) you really want to be part of their (our) culture! Do not get angry over racism, try to explain them your history and why you are here and they will understand;) und eine Kleinigkeit, lern Hochdeutsch so schnell wie möglich:) Glückwunsch
@nothingmuch44
@nothingmuch44 4 жыл бұрын
@@Vojtos3 The same experience and stories I have heard from some born and raised Afro Germans doesn't show that it's about integration and earning population's trust. I have always try as much as I can to integrate into any society I live. but it kinda makes think though, I was born and raised in Nigeria, and Europeans I know back home doesn't have to do all that integration to get the respect they deserve as humans, some of them don't even mingle with locals, or have any interest to learn a damn thing about the natives, but here I am in Europe and must do all that, speak hochDeutsch with no accent, and act as much European as I can to get basic respect. Interesting.
@joliamx4554
@joliamx4554 4 жыл бұрын
I have the feeling that when it comes to "integration" Germans talk a lot about "Leitkultur" which means something like guiding culture, which is really problematic because it gives the illusion that there is one homogeneous German culture and stable defined customs and if you don't follow that you are not really German. The focus is really strongly on integration. I'm from Germany and not the US but I feel like that this is not the case there. In the US you are more able to express the cultural heritage. Or I'm I wrong? Also: a lot of POCs get the question "where are you from?" on a daily basis. They are often not being read as "German" even though they were born in Germany. I thinks that's also a huge difference to the US.
@Ginnilini
@Ginnilini 4 жыл бұрын
Very good and accurate video! I'm from East Germany and you are sadly right. Racism as an expression of xenophobia has become and is still becoming more prevalent, which is scary and disappointing. When I think of the people supporting those views, most of them have a very small horizon and have rarely or never interacted with someone from a different culture on a personal level. Russians and some other Eastern Europeans are relatively well-integrated in the East and often not perceived as foreigners anymore, but as the GDR effectively limited or completely ruled out immigration from the rest of the world, there aren't very many examples of well-integrated African, Middle Eastern or Asian people to help broaden people's limited horizons, especially in more rural and disadvantaged regions. The older generation in particular seems scared of the unknown because they've had a more isolated and sheltered experience until at least 1990, but there are enough kids and teenagers influenced by their unsatisfied and small-minded parents too (speaking from my experience as a teacher). I am worried about the increasing number of people who do not fully agree with the more extreme right-wing racist propaganda, but they sympathize with certain aspects and are unwilling to take a stand or actively speak out against such sentiments. If you'd asked me couple of years ago if a hate-filled party like the AfD would ever have a drop of hope to enter the Bundestag, I would definitely have said no, so the attitudes have shifted drastically and I feel like it's a scary trend that is still continuing. Sadly, I don't have much hope that this is going to improve anytime soon (especially here in East Germany) and I don't know what would need to happen for that. My vote: Mandatory three-month student exchange to a distinctly foreign and less privileged country of a non-Western culture for all teenagers. I feel like it might increase acceptance of differences, intercultural communication and change attitudes in a more lasting way than media coverage or lessons at school can.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your own perspective and experiences!
@Uninvisibl
@Uninvisibl 4 жыл бұрын
Yesterday and continuing into today, KZbin started feeding me a lot of older videos about Black foreigners' impressions of living in Germany compared to their home countries. When I saw yours just now, I was a bit apprehensive that you'd say something Kareny - I forgot you're half asian. It wasn't until a minute later that I realized this video was posted today and is about current events in the US. Good job! It's a topic that's tough to tackle on many levels.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
I hope that people are taking much more time to listen to black content creators. I will never truly understand the plight of POC in the US or Germany, because I have light skin.
@neveragain2421
@neveragain2421 3 жыл бұрын
"Kareny" 😂😂
@jarrad2000
@jarrad2000 4 жыл бұрын
I'm German and I totally agree with your observations regarding racism in here. It's very disappointing. We should know and be better.
@seelenwinter6662
@seelenwinter6662 4 жыл бұрын
wie viele kulturen sind unteregangen, weil man die gefahr nicht gesehen oder unterschätzt hat... meine frau ist peruanerin und man muß ja nur mal nach südamerika schaun und sieht was fremde kulturen anrichten können, die zu erst mit offenen armen empfangen wurden... mayas, azteken, inkas, nordamerikanische indianerstämme etc pp... da waren die neuen kulturen auch nur auf deren reichtum und land aus und als man alles hatte, hat man den rest der ortsansäßigen natives noch versklavt oder direkt getötet...
@jarrad2000
@jarrad2000 4 жыл бұрын
@@seelenwinter6662 Dann ist mindestens einer von euch "Fremd" und eine Gefahr, wenn man deiner Logik folgt. Ich glaube es gibt einen großen Unterschied zwischen Eroberern und Flüchtlingen, Gästen und Immigranten. Nicht alles sind kriegerische Handlungen mit dem Ziel der Umgestaltung und Ausbeutung. Ich wohne hier direkt an der Grenze zu dem Niederlanden, hier vermischen sich unsere Kulturen ganz natürlich, das ist völlig in Ordnung und kein Grund Angst zu haben.
@zhufortheimpaler4041
@zhufortheimpaler4041 4 жыл бұрын
hmmm okay there are some topics that need adressing: slavery in the us vs europe: the dependance on slavery in the us was not based on low working population, but on money. a slave doesnt need pay, only low level accomodations, is cheap and doesnt have workers rights or tradeguilds/unions etc. this is the reason why the us favored slavery. added to that, there is a religious and racist aspect, wich is dominant in the united states. the manifest destiny proclaims that the settlers in the united states are gods chosen people and nation, a large portion of the settlers were puritans, a very fundamental interpretation of protestantism, wich interprets biblical text literally. due to this, slavery was justified with biblical text and slowly establishing racist sentiments. the united states population is obsessed with racism. it is not normal to register your "race" in your pasport. it is not normal to discuss peoples skin color if they did a crime etc. one of the big problems is, that the us political spectrum is very right wing. the left "extrem" end in the us is, where in europe the centrist parties have their right wing. also in regard to freedom of media and press and freedom of speech, there is a big difference between us and germany. racist or other hatespeech is punishable in germany, if it is documentable and intended to hurt the other person or lower their "honor". media is completely free, only certain rules like the press code (dont show unpixelated faces of suspects, no personal data etc) apply. well and the laws of the grundgesetz and strafgesetzbuch (constitution and criminal law)
@evelyn_minou
@evelyn_minou 4 жыл бұрын
A sad but very accurate description of America!
@thkempe
@thkempe 4 жыл бұрын
There has been practically no slavery in Central Europe since the High Middle Ages. Instead there was the serfdom of one's own rural population. But no outside people were kidnapped and enslaved and sold as goods.
@zhufortheimpaler4041
@zhufortheimpaler4041 4 жыл бұрын
@C J well at first: race is not a biological category, its ethnic what you are looking for. the therm race is only usable with a racist connotation. (to have your "race" in your passport is not normal) the primary settlers of the first wave were puritans and protestants, wich are culturally dominating the eastcoast, even today. also most of the settlers in the american colonies wich form the eastern states of the us, were british. also the puritan ethics and culture formed much of the modern US culture. the christian dominated culture can be traced back to protestant and puritan settlers. the italian settlers came very late. primarily at the end of the 19th century and early 20th century. they had little to no impact on slavery. the german settlers are primarily situated in the central northern states, where slavery was not much of a deal, also they were primarily puritan protestants like calvinists. the french settlers settled primarily in lousiana. and they were almost all huguenots aka calvinists aka puritans. so the majority of the settlers in the united states were calvinist protestants with very similar religious beliieves, positions etc. this form of protestantism is very fundamentalistic and interprets much of the bible literal. the bible has very specific rules for keeping slaves, trading slaves, punishing slaves etc. in the old and in the new testament. these passages were refered for justification of slavery up to the civil war, where they were used as justification to keep slaves and secede from the union. the american mindset of gods chosen nation and manifest destiny is a direct result from the puritan culture of its settlers and led directly into large scale eugenic programms, slavery and racism. the united states has a long history with fixiation on eugenic social engeneering, racism and segregation resulting from these. and by the way, in europe we dont have our skin color or "race" in our passport. there are no races, just humans. and im betting that europe will fare better with integration and assimilation than the united states, wich is still segregating its ethnic populations with systemic racism.
@leslieannepalermo7155
@leslieannepalermo7155 4 жыл бұрын
@C J , as an American woman with Italian heritage I agree with some of what you are saying and let me explain what I believe Zhufor’s arguments are based on. I have taken post graduate work in the social sciences such as psychology and sociology and I have learned more about my own American culture that way. Yes, the settlers that came to America off of the Mayflower were very religious in an extreme way . They were known as the Puritans and yes the Christian Right in the U.S. has kept many of those ideologies. They frown upon getting governmental assistance due to one Bible passage taken out of context that says, “If you don’t work you don’t eat.” Americans history is based on the philosophy of rugged individualism, taken to an extreme it means that one must never ask for help, one must be self-reliant. There is the “deserving poor” and the “undeserving poor.” Americans also base their movie ratings very highly (what isn’t appropriate for young children to view)on the amount of sexual content more than violence. If I understand correctly in Europe a movie with a great deal of violence would be cautioned against children viewing it much more than a movie with a higher level of sexuality being shown. Here in the U.S. movies that ought to be rated R ( meaning restricted under 17 not admitted without a parent) due to violence are given the rating of parental guidance suggested ( PG). Even Americans who are not right wing in their ideologies have been programmed to think certain things that go back to the Puritans.
@zhufortheimpaler4041
@zhufortheimpaler4041 4 жыл бұрын
@@leslieannepalermo7155 in respect to movie ratings: in europe there is the view that violence in media is detremental to a developing psyche (children) as it normalises violence in everyday culture, because children have a lower threshhold for behavior adaptation and learn from media. nudity in society is more normal and proper sex education happens in 6th grade and a lighter version before that. proper sex education in a young age is neccessary, as large family structures and close living groups dont exist anymore. it lowers teenage pregnancy and teaches a healthy relationship to your body and sexuality. prudence on the other hand leaves you open to risky behaviour, vulnerable to abuse and predatory behavior. the american exeptionalism results from the puritan culture and expresses itself in a surperiority complex, wich channels itself into racism, eugenic programms, a fundamentally racist system etc.
@timml2
@timml2 4 жыл бұрын
being a West German citizen, I can confirm your description of the situation here is accurate and I appreciate this Video, it’s my plan to go to the US for an Semester abroad if possible therefore I’m interested in this topic. Thanks for the personal insight on your own experience’s as well.
@glennclarke4239
@glennclarke4239 4 жыл бұрын
Taylor, you are so wonderfully human, you have done something so many of your fellow American's are afraid for what ever reason of doing ... you have gone to another country and learned that although it is great and wonderful, there is much room for change ... and it is worldwide. Until the day comes that we realize that we are just ' humans ' we will not have freedom from the word racism, it is getting better, but we have a long way to go. Hopefully with the help of people like yourself we will achieve it. Blessings on you.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
I am actually postiviely surprised by how many US Americans (of every race) are using their voices for change!
@DrGlynnWix
@DrGlynnWix 4 жыл бұрын
Slavery is still legal in the United States. The language of the 13th amendment says, "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." This is why forced prison labor is used very extensively. There is also a good documentary on Netflix that goes into the shift from slavery towards incarceration as a tool for enslavement, it's called 13th.
@DrGlynnWix
@DrGlynnWix 4 жыл бұрын
@C J that's the literal Constitution, so I don't get what you don't get. Slavery as punishment for a crime is legal in the United States of America. I made no mention of race in my comment, so I don't get what you're getting at. Taking advantage of prison labor, no matter their color, is problematic. Poor people are more likely to be in prison, not because they commit more crime but because they can't afford to stay out of prison and we criminalize and punish them more (think about white collar crime here, very prolific, robbing lots of people, but they very rarely get punished or don't get harshly so). Prisoners have to work for money to buy things like socks and food, so what you suggest is a fundamental misunderstanding of how prison works.
@evelyn_minou
@evelyn_minou 4 жыл бұрын
C J You should read up on prison labor laws or just google it.. Sentenced inmates are required to work unless they have a medical reason. An inmate can refuse to work though, but they’re subjecting themselves to punishment.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
I remember watching Orange is the New Black and being absolutely shook by the struggles that people face after they leave prison and the unrealistic expectations that are placed on former-prisoners. In most cases, they are not reabilitated but simply set up for failure.
@GTsampiras
@GTsampiras 2 жыл бұрын
@@taylorintransit3421 I lived in Bremen for a year to study in Hochschule Bremen. I only learned after that a Cypriot and some other Asians etc were killed by neonazis in Germany and no one had noticed for years. People had warned me about the Neonazis in Germany before I went to Bremen. Afterwards, I spoke with greek women that went to school in Germany and they called them shitgrieche/shitgreek there. The economic crisis and the perception that greeks are lazy, corrupt thieves that the media is promoting in Germany didn't improve things. I have German friends 😉. But I also saw that many German citizens truly hated greeks because of the things that they had heard on the news. One greek also got murdered 1,5 year ago in Germany and they didn't bother to notify his family in Greece and he was cremated in Germany. Another greek was beaten to death by the German police without even knowing if there was any real evidence of any crime and without a trial. I got to tell you that I afraid 😅 to live in Germany now. Also, I met Germans here in Greece that tell me that they are Arian/Arischen Germans. I was surprised that there are so many Germans that still believe that they are the Master Race and Arian Germans and this is significant in today's world.
@Sat-Man-Alpha
@Sat-Man-Alpha 4 жыл бұрын
Keep the ball flat - my father was a small number with the Waffen-SS because he had no education, but later made up for it and became a tight Social Democrat His children grew up with Americans, Turks, Yugoslavs and Europeans. My niece is married to an American, my daughter's friend is half-Nigerian. Her Friends come from all countries in Europe and the East/near East .... we are the last generation which think not global .... the so called West can and will only survive with the genetic and intellectual input from all over the world and therfeore we have to lift all people from all continents to the same level .... down with all inequality ....
@AP-RSI
@AP-RSI 4 жыл бұрын
Ich glaube "Halt den Ball flach" kann man so nicht ins Englische übersetzen. Es müsste wohl mehr "keep cool" oder "keep your head down" heißen... Sorry, kein Oberlehrer... aber ich mache oft den gleichen Fehler. ;-)
@Sat-Man-Alpha
@Sat-Man-Alpha 4 жыл бұрын
@@AP-RSI Lerne immer gerne dazu....Da hast Du wohl recht, aber dafür ist mein Englisch zu schlecht....
@FabFunty
@FabFunty 4 жыл бұрын
@@AP-RSI keep calm
@breznsalzer7323
@breznsalzer7323 4 жыл бұрын
i find it mind boggling how big of a deal race and origin is in the US. I mean you speak of yourself as asian american. Why not just american?
@faultier1158
@faultier1158 4 жыл бұрын
People who have similar experiences tend to cling together, which forms an identity like "Asian American" or "African American". Facing similar discrimination or having similar cultural backgrounds - stuff like that.
@varana
@varana 4 жыл бұрын
It's also a result of outside attribution. As she explained, it was not apparent to her for a long time. The _others_ "made" her Asian-American, it was not something she chose to do at that point.
@breznsalzer7323
@breznsalzer7323 4 жыл бұрын
@@faultier1158 sure but by doing that you yourself create a border between your group and the "normal" american. However what you should do is emphasizing that you are in fact an american like everyone else with all rights that come with it and not separate yourself from that
@breznsalzer7323
@breznsalzer7323 4 жыл бұрын
@@varana this might be the underlying reason yes. But thats sadly true for every country. What i meant is that specifying your origin is generally a part of US culture. Whether you have to state it in some form or personally think it to be important, in the US your race/origin is always present and an extremely prominent feature of a person.
@schonlingg.wunderbar2985
@schonlingg.wunderbar2985 4 жыл бұрын
@@breznsalzer7323 You really think you are smart, don't you. Want to guess what will happen if you simply ignore, that you are a victim of a problem, without defending against it or preparing for it? Bullies don't stop bullying, just because you try to ignore them.
@EricB256
@EricB256 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing this non-native speaker the term undocumented immigrant. Having never needed this kind of vocabulary before, possibly to never having actually been to the US, I first got in touch with the topic of immigration through the Sting sonf "Englishman in New York" not many years after it came out. A video on how you view cultural appropriation in the 2 different countries would be very interesting: I mean I like pop music but that's a field where cultural appropriation has happened a lot in the past, so much so that it's become a worldwide language of sorts, uniting people through their love for music. Yet, at times, when I think about what I've read on recorded pop music's earlier eras, the cultural appropriation is much more obvious.
@patriciamillin1977
@patriciamillin1977 Жыл бұрын
Racism might be more subtle in Germany than it is in the US, not so in-your-face, but it definitely exists. I recall an incident when my car was in repairs and I took the tram. There was an elderly lady standing next to me on a platform (I’m 68, so when I say “elderly” it refers to someone around 80). A group of young black girls wearing hijabs passed us by and the lady turned to me and said “Where might _they_ have come from?” I knew what she was getting at, just based on the disdainful tone of the question and the emphasis of the word “they”, but I decided to pretend not to, so I just replied “Oh, maybe Somalia or Ethiopia. Pretty girls.” She replied “Well yes, they _are_ pretty…” - again that tone and that emphasis that implied there was a “but” to her statement. In that precise moment a black guy came up to me and asked if I speak English. Being a native English speaker, I replied in the affirmative, and he asked if I could tell him at which stop he had to get off (I happened to be standing next to the route map). At that point we were approached by another black guy who also needed help but couldn’t speak German. I showed them both on the map where their individual stops were and we chatted a bit. All the time I observed the old lady from the corner of my eye and noted with some sense of inner glee the shocked, almost disgusted look on her face. I’m not sure if racism is a cultural thing or more an educational thing. I had never studied, having left home when I was 16, and worked at various normal office jobs throughout my work life, but I noticed the difference in attitude. I worked with mainly blue collar workers in one company for 20 years, and much as I liked my colleagues in general, there were certainly elements of racism, some more open, others in a more “subtle joking” manner. My colleagues were mostly German or Polish. Later I worked for an IT company for 18 years, where roughly 90% of the employees had studied. We were a diverse mixture of nations and ethnicities, German, Polish, Greek, Serbian, Turkish, Sri Lankan, Cameroonian, and English (me), and we all got along great. The atmosphere was generally relaxed and easy-going, despite the work-related stress. We all accepted each other as equals, I never detected a hint of racism. While no one else seemed to even think about it, for me, having come from the other company, then coming into this one, the difference was striking. I am retired now, but I still believe I had the best colleagues ever in that company.
@hajotge12
@hajotge12 7 ай бұрын
Your experience aligns to mine. The more white collar a company is and the more (original) ethnicities mix, the less racism you will see. I even a study about what makes people more trusting (which translates to me to "less racist") (many years ago) and the top item was: Going to a University.
@patriciamillin1977
@patriciamillin1977 7 ай бұрын
@@hajotge12 So it definitely does seem to be an issue of education, certainly the ability to think critically is important. Not everyone in the first company was racist, but the less educated they were, the worse the racism was. There were some with whom you could have at least a normal conversation, even if not necessarily an intelligent debate on any issues, with others it was impossible to have any decent conversation. It was very different in the second company where you could discuss all kinds of issues. I always got along with most people I’ve worked with, but I never had a private friendship with the people I worked with in the first company. In the other company, my colleagues and I did a lot of things together after work and I still have contact with most of them now.
@ikw6262
@ikw6262 4 жыл бұрын
Good job, Taylor! You definitely don´t need to apologize for your opinion. Noone should say "that´s just my opinion" and make it less important by that. Very good, you put the finger on racism in daily life, using little formulations that might hurt others. Everyone of us should think before talking. More than ever many of those small "harmless" words are not harmless at all but you always can say it wasn´t meant this way, can always hide behind that acceptance they have. Know what I mean (sorry, heavy topic that challenges my english)? Very refreshing to see this side of you. Thank you.
@tonyzapata1040
@tonyzapata1040 4 жыл бұрын
LOVE YOU TAYLOR FOR SPEAKING WORDS TO POWER.
@tonynasaofficial
@tonynasaofficial 3 жыл бұрын
As an Italian american going to a European country it's a very different experience, the only show which is somewhat relatable is the show called lillyhammer even though I'm not in the mob or whatever it is pretty realistic on how Europeans treat Italian Americans and a lot of people don't even think it's real :c
@sabrinajohn6023
@sabrinajohn6023 4 жыл бұрын
Where are you located un Germany and I'm glad you post this video since I plan on working in Stuggart at the end of the year. So I'm curious about racism there.
@hugos6444
@hugos6444 4 жыл бұрын
You did VERY well! You thoughts and experiences are appreciated, you are appreciated!
@peterjeager4083
@peterjeager4083 4 жыл бұрын
What I have heard from a friend living in Germany as a foreigner is that basically an immigrant in Germany has two options. He or she can try to assimilate, act exactly like a German, following the same behavioural patterns, rules and values. In this case he or she can integrate fully into German society, regardless of his or her origins. The other option is to maintain one's own identity, behavioural patterns and values; however, in this case he or she will always feel to be an outsider for the rest of his or her life, which often means isolation and being unable to make German friends. It is not about racism or negative stereotype of foreigners, it is more about a rigid request to live your life like a German if you want to be accepted. You can come from the other end of the world as long as you behave like a German, as long as you follow the same rules and customs. Germany is a highly norm-based society.
@Ben65P
@Ben65P 4 жыл бұрын
Not fully true. But you are on the right track. If you live in Germany then respect whats german. You dont have to became "german" to respect german ways of living. This is not that big of a deal tbh. Germany is a german country. So ofc they want you to respect their land and costums. I live in Germany and its fine.
@varana
@varana 4 жыл бұрын
"In this case he or she can integrate fully into German society, regardless of his or her origins." You might want to talk to Afro-Germans or Germans with a "Middle Eastern look" sometimes. You cannot change how you look; and you may speak upper Bavarian dialect and eat bratwurst with sauerkraut, people will still make you feel like you're an "outsider" and "don't really belong here" and ask "where you're from" (and "Rosenheim" is not what they mean), and it will be difficult for you to go to certain areas at certain times, and all that stuff. And second, your definition of German behaviour, rules, and values probably differ from others. There are German Muslims, and some who dress recognisably that way. Is that included in your understanding of "German behaviour"?
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input. I agree that there is a very fine line of what is accepted of foreigners living in Germany. I truly believe that culture and language are things to be cherished and passed down to children however the parents see fit. I personally want to pass down my own native language and some traditions and foods from the US to my own children. As to how to properly or thorougly integrate those not native to Germany into German culture and society, I don't have all of the answers - but I do know that the better we succeed at doing this, the more we can dismantle racist beliefs.
@badcat9096
@badcat9096 4 жыл бұрын
Just throwing this in here: No German ever had a problem with an asian bowing to them.
@badcat9096
@badcat9096 4 жыл бұрын
While I am sure asians are offended by "westerners" who didnt bow deep enough all the time.
@hannovonbahrenfeld5986
@hannovonbahrenfeld5986 3 жыл бұрын
It's not allowed to call a foreigner a foreigner?
@renzuki5830
@renzuki5830 4 жыл бұрын
I think you are pretty spot on when it comes to xenophobia in Germany. Just as a sidenote to your opinion on free speech. From a judicial point of view in Germany there are limits too free speech, when you start breaking the law. Hate speech itself is also forbidden in it's own paragraph. There is a § (130 StGB) which forbids "Volksverhetztung" in form of open proclamations that discriminates against race, religion, origin or any minorities with the intent of inciting hate or other discriminatory behavior. Also on a private level insults are also forbidden because they are considered an attack on your "honor", which is a right that the state deems worthy to protect and no citizen has to tolerate. Obviously there is a diffference between theory and practice as neither all insults or all instances of hate speech are prosecuted, but a lot of it is indeed unlawful and not covered by the Grundgesetz that allows for free spech. It is highly depending on the degree of the violation for sure and the fact it is difficult to have evidence, but I still think it's good to have laws like this codified. Coupled with the fact that nazi symbolism etc. is forbidden I do think this also leads to discrimination being a lot less public than it would be otherwise since you can get punished for it.
@linuxpython935
@linuxpython935 4 жыл бұрын
Where are the links you are talking about?
@larissacampos9739
@larissacampos9739 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for using your channel to bring this topic!
@PianistStefanBoetel
@PianistStefanBoetel 4 жыл бұрын
It's impressive and inspiring how well principled you are. Incredible how the word 'Alternative' got almost fully shifted and turned in the last years. After President Trump claimed in 2017 after his inauguration it was the most visited in American history, though all photos prove the opposite, his press secretary called this lie "alternative fact". Though the 'Alternative for Germany' was firstly mainly formed as a conservative anti-euro(pean) party in 2013 it developed itself now to a in big parts extremist party that threatens our common values of Democracy, The Rule of Law and Tolerance. It became the political platform in Germany for deceit, lies, destruction, manipulation, racism and anti-semitism. Or as the White House calls it "alternative facts". As Chancellor Angela Merkel adressed President Trump on her Harvard commencement speech without mentioning him by name: "You shouldn't call lies truth and truth lies."
@Ari33sa
@Ari33sa 4 жыл бұрын
True ... years ago it was something new and fresh and different. Like alternative rock. Now it's just... old ideas dressed in a new little get-up to hide the racism and bigotry behind it.
@thkempe
@thkempe 4 жыл бұрын
Being against mass immigration does NOT threaten democracy. Democracy doesn't depend on it. And: Chancellor Merkel should not judge the representative of another nation. Who is she? This shows disrespect for the nation represented!
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
I think that the US has a long way to go in terms of acknowledging it's past and present. I have a hard time understanding the current trend of disavowing facts and even the scientific process. I am going to make another video in the next few days and want to talk about what we can do to support causes such as BLM.
@Ari33sa
@Ari33sa 4 жыл бұрын
@@thkempe yes it is because ultimately 'mass immigration' is just the populist catchphrase. What it refers to is a mix of immigrants who come here to work or study (often they only ever can come when they already have a job offer so when they can proof that they don't actually depend on the social system - the kind of immigrant that is usually welcomed with more or less open arms, because they bring money and skills without costing the state too much - although they often still suffer discrimination, often by being thrown into the same category as the next group), refugees (who seek asylum and a better lot in life, who are often exactly the kind of people that the populist movements rage against, although they try to conveniently equate them with the first group (saying they come to take cheap labour and don't actually need asylum dimminishing their plight) and a third group that is not actually immigrants at all but descendent of immigrants who were often born and raised within the country, even have citizenship but are still used to rage against 'mass immigration' because 'look at all those brown people!'). Now you may wonder what any of this has to do with democracy: Well the first group is a matter of freedom. Your freedom to decide where you want to live and work. There are a lot of ways how the state can restrict that kind of immigration, and in fact it is as far as I know the most heavily regulated form of immigration with the state essentially being able to pick and choose who can come and who can't. The second is a matter of fundamental human rights. Asylum is a human right. The third is a matter of equality and discrimination. All three things are considered fundamental core principles upon which the modern democracy is built. 'Illegal immigration' is not really a thing. It's just another of those populist catchphrases. Your right whether you can stay in a country or not is not determined based on how you got into the country. Of course, I'm not saying that everybody has a right to be in the country who already is there. But the question of whether or not they have that right, cannot be determined by the manner in which they enter the country, nor whether they are registered or not.
@thkempe
@thkempe 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Ari33sa Mass immigration is a fact. Hundreds of thousands to millions form a mass of people and not a catchphrase. Making asylum a human right lets the immigrant instead of the sovereign of the state (namely the people and their mandated state organs) decide, who can settle in the country. However, restricting the sovereignty of the people means harming democracy. If you want to manage a country sustainably, you have to make sure that the number of its inhabitants does not increase steadily. For this reason alone, immigration should only be allowed to a limited extent.
@Feier_Salamander
@Feier_Salamander 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty accurate analysis of the racism here in germany.
@JonDoe-yc6uz
@JonDoe-yc6uz 4 жыл бұрын
NPC’s muh racism bad
@JonDoe-yc6uz
@JonDoe-yc6uz 4 жыл бұрын
How do you not know you’re Asian at 13? Do you not own a mirror dumbass 😂
@RobTheWatcher
@RobTheWatcher 4 жыл бұрын
I am an Asian-German with darker skin and I can't even recall the number of times in my childhood I have been mocked with slanted eyes or children calling me the N word because of my complexion. Not in US but right here in Germany. Children can be especially cruel and growing up in the 80s was tough if you looked like me. I can still remember in my "Grundschule" I was the only child with dark skin and not even teachers would refrain from pointing that out on a regular basis. So believe me, I KNOW exactly what you are talking about. Racism is not dead and I want to thank you for speaking your truth and using your plattform. That took some guts to state a few things that go beyond the obvious "I am against racism and intolerance" spiel. Someone talking from experience and telling other people what it's like is necessary right now. Thank you again!
@helgaioannidis9365
@helgaioannidis9365 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I remember the same. My brother was very dark, too and experienced a lot of racism in the 80ies and 90ies not only in Grundschule, but also just on the street or Freibad. Funnily the only place he always felt accepted as a person without his skin colour having any relevance was a small village in Bavaria where we used to spend all our holidays and weekends. People there just treated him according to his personality and actions.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experiences. It is time that we start standing up for ourselves and for eachother and start calling out these injustices.
@gorsed3060
@gorsed3060 4 жыл бұрын
My parents came from Croatia in the 70s to Munich. In Kindergarten I couldn't speak German because my mother also started German. But it changed soon. But dummes Ausländerkind I heard to. So it's against every Ausländer. Today I have German Citizenship. My daughter is German with Croatian and daddies side Hungarian ancestors. We are Germans. That is also our Home. And I am proud of it. ❤️
@SoundTourist
@SoundTourist 4 жыл бұрын
Very good summary for the relatively short video. You have a realistic, sober view. Bravo! 👏🌹
@andrear.5296
@andrear.5296 4 жыл бұрын
Danke, dass Sie auch den Rassismus in Deutschland so klar und offen ansprechen.
@manofvalour6982
@manofvalour6982 4 жыл бұрын
There is no racism in Germany. If you want to see racism go to South Africa!!!!
@andrear.5296
@andrear.5296 4 жыл бұрын
@@manofvalour6982 There is enough racism in Germany to be concerned.
@manofvalour6982
@manofvalour6982 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrear.5296 Niemals. Ich denke Deutschland hat viele gelernt über Rassismus. Nur Sachsen ist eine große unterscheit
@andrear.5296
@andrear.5296 4 жыл бұрын
@@manofvalour6982 Leider nicht. Alltagsrassismus ist weit verbreitet in ganz Deutschland.
@manofvalour6982
@manofvalour6982 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrear.5296 Was meinst du "alltagsrassismus"? That doesn't make sense to me at all.
@forestmanzpedia
@forestmanzpedia 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Spanish-Moroccan and my family lives here in Germany since the 1950s. I never experienced racism from Germans, except when I was in middle school. My best experience was when my German neighbours often brought cooked food over to our house after they had parties. Also, nobody called the police on me because I have a brown skin and an afro. I love my German friends and they are the best. What I love love about Germans is that they don't have the mindset of "race" and don't have a clear definition what "German" actually is. Aslong as you fit in the society and you are not a disrespectful deuce, you will be fine here. Germans will even segregrate other Germans if needed and they will. "Human race", what does that even mean and why do US americans take it extremly serious? There are no human races, just different human ethnic groups with unique features; their bodies have changed due to geographic and climate living conditions. There is no superioty whatsoever in terms of appearence and skin color. This is something Germans are aware of, which is why they are open-minded. I really love the German education in gymnasiums and I will do my Abitur next year. Danke ihr lieben Deutschen dafür, dass ihr meiner Familie und mir so ein schönes Zuhause zum Leben gibt, ich mich hier sicher fühle, mich wohl fühle und mich so menschlich behandelt, als wäre ich einer von euch.
@yxnsoong735
@yxnsoong735 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to have you, fühl Dich gedrückt
@TheManWithTheHatKiel
@TheManWithTheHatKiel 4 жыл бұрын
The culture of remembrance of the crimes of the Nazis is a major issue in Germany. In schools, this accompanies the pupils over several years until the end of their schooling with varying intensity. I can no longer remember exactly in which school year one is first informed about the Nazi era. In any case, this was in history lessons and took several months. This education about the crimes of the Nazis triggers something in most students. The question is then whether one is able to transform these feelings into something good. Unfortunately, my experience at school was that the school made no offers whatsoever to turn these feelings into something positive. I had to do this work for me alone. I think that is not good. Surely some students will not be able to turn these feelings into something good and get stuck on negative feelings of shame and guilt. In this case, they will look for other solution strategies, such as relativization, denial, etc. In this case one is naturally more open to racism etc. For the people who are now asking themselves how to turn these feelings into something positive: Take it as a honourable responsibility, a responsibility that racism and fascism can't be repeated. Accept it not as a burden but as a privilege - as a chance to make the world a better place. For us Germans it is not understandable that in the southern states there are still statues for slave owners. That would be like putting up statues for Hitler and his hosts. I think that the USA should simply talk about its own dark parts of its own history and regularly remind us of this injustice and remind us that this must not be repeated.
@TheManWithTheHatKiel
@TheManWithTheHatKiel 4 жыл бұрын
In Germany, human dignity is regarded as the highest fundamental right. In the USA, freedom of speech is regarded as the supreme fundamental right. This significant difference explains why the German state is tougher on hatred and incitement to hatred than the USA. This reason explains why the death penalty exists in the USA and not in Germany. "Human dignity is unimpeachable." Unimpeachable is an absolute word, which does not allow or permit exceptions. The death penalty violates human dignity and is therefore illegal. And yes, even a mass murderer like Adolf Hitler would not be executed in Germany. Unimpeachable means unimpeachable. The executed Nazis were also not condemned and executed by Germany, but by the Allies.
@kaiszillat7201
@kaiszillat7201 4 жыл бұрын
No doubt, racism still exists everywhere unfortunately. I have another point to add though. The time of a policeofficer spent in police academy in the US varies between 3 to 19 weeks depending on each state, while the average will be 9 weeks I guess. Meaning there are literally people being sent out on the streets after just three weeks of training. In germany the lowest level of a policeman has had at least 3 years of training, which is similar in every european country. That 3 years doesn't only provide a better education but also increases the chances to sort out guys with character issues even before them wearing the uniform. Also the pay for police offficers is way better here. To me it seems like the US just wants as many bodies as possible to do this job. I mean it doesn't make it right for police officers to be racist, but I think it's an important point to think about when talking about police brutallity. I mean, is this topic being discussed at all?
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Kai! That's very true. I will be posting another video in the next few days and will definitely talk about the training of US police officers in comparison to their German counterparts.
@kaiszillat7201
@kaiszillat7201 4 жыл бұрын
@@taylorintransit3421 Yeah I think ending racism is the goal, but reforming the police and giving officers a better education is a task on the way. And it's much easier to achieve.
@mefree3306
@mefree3306 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaiszillat7201 you can't reforestation a system built on white supremacy. It's impossible! Wake up
@johnkennedy8363
@johnkennedy8363 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, what a thoughtful person you are. There is a huge difference in context when comparing American (as a continent) and European racism and that is the large majority of American inhabitants are descendants of immigrants of only a few generations. My own experience is very similar to yours: American who came to Europe to finish my education and decided to stay (and happy with my decision). My wife is German and her Father, who was a CDU voter for most of his life was also seduced by the AFD and was also very enthusiastic about tRump being elected. He died a mid 2018 of cancer so was unable to witness the utter debacle and disaster that the US has become.
@swanpride
@swanpride 4 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem with my father. He basically got radicalised over Facebook. The good thing is that the voters of the AfD tend to be older and very much male. They have a limited appeal
@manub.3847
@manub.3847 4 жыл бұрын
My father died in 2017, he was afraid for us because the AFD and the far right were on the rise. And he disliked no.45. I had a very good discussion with him about his fears about the refugees by first asking him how the West Germans reacted to the refugees from East Prussia and Silesia and the other eastern areas, especially if they were of a different religion, contrary to the local tradition . (Evangelical Lutheran / Roman Catholic) and his reaction to the refugees from the former Yugoslavia.His comment: "You're right, child, the only difference was that you could communicate with a little effort (different dialects) and we all had too little to live on"; "I forgot that at the time we were still struggling with the cost of reunification, but still accepting so many people, most of whom withdrew a few years later."
@swanpride
@swanpride 4 жыл бұрын
I am old enough to remember when Italians were called "Spaghettifresser", when Poles were all "dirty car thieves" and when Kosovo Refugees were supposedly a huge problem. We keep changing the lines regarding who we include and who exclude. My only hope is that eventually we will run out of people to exclude.
@johnkennedy8363
@johnkennedy8363 4 жыл бұрын
Originally from Prussia, my father in-law’s family were all confirmed nazis during WW2, his father was killed 10 days before the end of the war, his eldest brother was briefly seen at the end of the war before fleeing and has never been heard of since, I know of at least one other member of his family (his uncle) who was killed during the war. His family was apparently wealthy, with large estates in Prussia: they lost everything and ended up as refugees in Hamburg. I could not understand how having suffered the direct consequences of nazism, he would still believe in its merits.
@thkempe
@thkempe 4 жыл бұрын
@@manub.3847 The refugees from Silesia and East Prussia were expelled against their will. The comparison of those who had to flee from one part of their home country to another part (internal refugees) with others who came abroad due to their own decision shows that you are not considering a better right for residents in their own country as for foreigners. So you think the Germans have no higher right to their own country than anyone else in the world who wanted to come and live here. We have cultivated our field, but whoever likes it shall be allowed to harvest. Acting so is a crime against our children's future.
@HT-br1uh
@HT-br1uh 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in LA, and as a Chinese American, I don't always feel safe in public. I have not experience any physical attacks, but I've been verbally attack three times since last year, and was challenged by a neighbor last fall because she saw me wearing my mask outside. My family have also experience harassment in grocery stores. It's simply not safe for Asian elders to be out in public in major American cities right now. I'm applying for MFA programs in Germany, and will be in Berlin in the fall. How safe is it right now for Asians in Germany? Is there anti-asian hate crimes in Germany like here in the US? How bad is it? Verbal attacks? Or have there been physical attacks as well? Victims in the US are mostly female and elders here. As a Chinese American female, I am a little worried about my safety. So if you can share your current experience in Germany, I would really appreciate it. Thanks!
@taylorhafemeister8794
@taylorhafemeister8794 3 жыл бұрын
Hello @Han Tang. I am so sorry that you and your family have felt unsafe in the US. To the best of my knowledge hate crimes against Asians due to Covid haven't been a topic of news. I live in a mid-size in Lower Saxony that isn't very diverse and I have never felt unsafe. I have had a few bad experiences in Eastern Germany (specifically areas surrounding Dresden) where I was treated differently in stores and restaurants. I also have had a few bad experiences out clubbing at night in big cities like Hamburg where I was mocked on the street for being Asian. With that being said, Asians in Germany "benefit" from the model minority stereotype and are typically seen as hard-working, smart, and quiet. The racial groups that suffer most in Germany would be refugees and any one that looks like they could be from the Middle East. Berlin is a very international city and I can imagine, as a minority, you would have less trouble with everyday racism than in a city in Bavaria. I hope this helps and sets your mind a bit at ease!
@HT-br1uh
@HT-br1uh 3 жыл бұрын
@@taylorhafemeister8794 Thank you for your insight. Really appreciate it.
@romandarius6041
@romandarius6041 3 жыл бұрын
HT why not tell the truth. Who is doing this to the Asians?
@HT-br1uh
@HT-br1uh 3 жыл бұрын
@@romandarius6041 This is a dumb question. First of all, Racism exists in all ethnic groups. By wording the question the way you did, it first implies that there’s a lie. A lie about what? My personal experience are from white people. My family also experienced verbal attacks from white Americans. And then there’s some of the MOST brutal attacks reported from New York and San Francisco, which the attackers were mostly black. But your question seems to be suggesting that it’s one specific group that are attacking Asians and somehow I’m “covering” for them? Let me ask you this: Do you have a problem with black people? Or are you trying to incinerate racial tensions between the Black and Asian community? Why? The racist that said terrible things to me happen to be white, but I’m not calling all white people racist. I’m simply saying that it’s getting really bad and dangerous for Asians in America. And that is not a lie.
@cartier2312
@cartier2312 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question, my question is what is the solution to racism?
@greattribulation3759
@greattribulation3759 3 жыл бұрын
There is no solution, lol. People are idiots.
@robertzander9723
@robertzander9723 4 жыл бұрын
It's absolutely fine to do a difficult topic like that. It's important to talk about unpopular issues. Less talk is a bigger issue, because if you stop talking or not trying to talk, things can change in ways nobody wants. We need to understand each other and living abroad, living as an expat is one good way to change that. In the moment is money and power are everything in the Western world, that is what government's looking and searching for. We have to change that in humanity, our live should be more important. Racism, sexism, anti-Semitism and violence are huge problems in whole world. It comes with stupid stories, it comes with stereotypes, but also with a wrong education, less education, telling people stupid things to get them into fear. With fear you can control people much easier, with fear you can lead them into inhuman actions and a lot of other things.
@jochenkreusel131
@jochenkreusel131 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this post disclosing very openly your uncertainty about a very difficult but also omnipresent topic.
@mariemuller3657
@mariemuller3657 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Taylor, I´m born in K-Town (Kaiserslautern). You might know the city, because it´s close to Ramstein (US-Base). My opinion is that our press messed it all up. They give so much room to modern nazis like the AfD, that you don´t read about any other opionions from other politics on the same topic. They direct the minds to think "ok.... everybody has the same opinion on that one." Another point is that the AfD does the same thing like Trump... whenever they are criticized, they say every one is at fault and they only want to corner them without hearing them out ("FAKE NEWS"). I hope that the press changes back to what it used to be... at least a little bit. Stay save Marie
@kel5423
@kel5423 4 жыл бұрын
As a foster kid, I was raised in some of the worst parts of California. Some of the group homes were mixed race and I have heard racial slurs come from every direction of skin color. No matter what race you may be in the United States, it is not the weight of fate that keeps you in poverty, it is almost always the chip on your shoulder. I grew up in 13 foster homes, 3 boys homes and 1 orphanage. I am white and I am now a computer engineer and technical writer. One of the kids from the group homes, who is one of my best friends, is black and he is an electrical engineer and owns one of the most successful vending machine franchises in Northern California. No matter what race you may be, the only one keeping you "down" is you. Rise above the stereotype and be what you want to be.
@canisxv9869
@canisxv9869 4 жыл бұрын
I can quite confidently state that i´ve never had any problems with racism in Germany (im a half black German). Maby Ive been lucky but sofar problems like that are entirely foreign to me thank god.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
I am glad that you have never experienced overt racism in Germany!
@sabrinajohn6023
@sabrinajohn6023 4 жыл бұрын
GERWolf- Where are you located in Germany
@lalala3440
@lalala3440 4 жыл бұрын
Stop lying! I'm a brown American and I left Germany just because of racism.
@johndee759
@johndee759 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is the old folks in Germany does not understand that Sching Schang Schong is racist. They often reply with: “Ach komm doch, das ist doch witzig gemeint. Alter wenn man darüber nicht lachen kann, worüber darf man dann noch lachen?” Die Würde des Menschen ist unantastbar.
@frieda2413
@frieda2413 4 жыл бұрын
Was ist daran jetzt wieder rassistisch? Wird irgendwer verletzt oder persönlich angegriffen wenn 2 Kinder Ching Chang Chong spielen? Ok, ist eine Verballhornung der chinesischen Sprache. Aber wo ist der Rassismus? Langsam geht mir das tatsächlich auf den Keks. In der Kita spielen wir jetzt auch nicht mehr Reise nach Jerusalem, sondern Stuhltanz. Soweit ich weiß, existiert Jerusalem noch und Leute reisen da tatsächlich hin. Man kann echt alles politisieren und überall Angriffsfläche finden wenn man nur lange genug sucht. In Zukunft möchte ich dann bitte auch nicht mehr als Frau angesprochen werden. Das grenzt mich von den Männern ab.....
@blackcurrantpop
@blackcurrantpop 2 жыл бұрын
@@frieda2413 BC Chinese do not say Ching Chang Chong. It’s not even a Chinese expression! How would you like if we made fun of your language like Zie habba wabba wunderbar?! Bc thats how your language sounds. Don’t even get me started on your disgusting food with no imagination sausage potatoes. And actually we Asians think blue eyes look scary, cold and distant. So if you think making fun of our eyes is funny, we make fun of yours too. Blond hair n blue eyes is very creepy. Like ghost.
@anniel1290
@anniel1290 4 жыл бұрын
Taylor, thanks so much for sharing your thoughts and personal stories in this video. As an Asian person living in Germany, I've also been called a variety of slurs so many times, that walking on the streets (of some of the most culturally diverse cities in Germany) is making me anxious. I listened to a podcast by the Guardian on the rise of Germany's far right. A domestic in Germany was mentioned to have been radicalized by the far right int he US. What are your thoughts? Would love to hear a bit more about German politics.
@RustyDust101
@RustyDust101 4 жыл бұрын
I am desperately sorry that this happened to you in Germany. I had hoped that this behavior had at least become so frowned upon that you'd at least have recieved help immediately. It shames me that you obviously have not recieved help in those situations.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Annie. Thank you for sharing your experience. Do you mind sending me the podcast? I actually want to make another video in the near future that is a bit more thoroughly researched. I feel like alot of Germans see what is happening in the US and believe that racism doesn't happen in their own country. There are a lot of things we can do - but shining light on the hate that minorities face is a good place to start.
@rolfoleynik6925
@rolfoleynik6925 4 жыл бұрын
In Deutschland sind seit 1955 mehr als 25 Millionen Menschen zugewandert. Deutschland war gerade in den 60/70er Jahren, wo 14 Millionen Zuwanderer kamen, völlig unvorbereitet. Ich denke, dass hat bei vielen Deutschen auch Ängste ausgelöst, da völlig andere Kulturen aufeinander trafen. Ich denke und hoffe, dass bei jeder weiteren Generation das Miteinander sich verbessert. Worauf in Deutschland geachtet werden muss, dass die Konflikte aus dem Ausland, nicht hier ausgetragen werden. Als aktuelle Beispiele: Krieg in Syrien, Russland und Ukraine, Israel/Iran/Palästina, Indien und China etc.
@DiscoQuinn
@DiscoQuinn 4 жыл бұрын
I think Turkish people are generally more accepted in Germany, I think it used to be rather bad in the 60s but to date Turkish culture has really manifested here. The worst racism is really directed towards refugees as far as I experienced.
@l.s8473
@l.s8473 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is many Germans assume that all brown people are refugees. They don’t take the time to make a distinction. Not that it makes it any better.
@Bruno_Haible
@Bruno_Haible 4 жыл бұрын
It's most impressing when you talk about having grown in a privileged environment. Noticing and realizing the mistakes in your own education is something only very few people succeed in doing; even less at the young age of yours. I bow before you. Isn't personal acquaintance the best remedy against racism? For example, how often did you talk to a colored person when you were young? Did you already shake hands with a black person, and at which age? In Germany, discrimination of handicapped people is more widespread and more openly visible than against colored people. It took me 53 years until I shook hands with a person with Down's syndrome. The mental barriers that had built up for years and decades were so strong...
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Bruno. Thank you for your comment. I agree so much with this sentiment. Just a single positive interaction with someone that is different from ourselves can change our entire perspective of that group. Obviously this also works in the other direction, in that one negative experience can influence our biases. We need more community organization to place us in situations where we can interact in a safe space with people of different backgrounds. I was a part of an organization called Best Buddies in university where we spent time with people with disabilities and it completely changed my perspective!
@rolfpitsch5002
@rolfpitsch5002 4 жыл бұрын
hi, Taylor, I was born in Magdeburg, Deutschland in the middle of World War II while Berlin was being carpet-bombed and lived in Wolmirstedt, Deutschland until 1950. I will spare you the details of living in an occupied country. In 1951, I came to the United States and I found this country doesn't believe in an honest exchange of ideas! This is very annoying after coming from a country in which honest opinions are exchanged without incrimination.
@KarlDMarx
@KarlDMarx 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry … I am curious: How old are you? The middle of WWll was about 80 years ago.
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 4 жыл бұрын
Exchange of ideas? Or better: extraction of ideas? At the beginning of the 20th century, despite of an almost absolutistic political system, Germany was the scientific powerhouse of the world. Up to WWII, Germany was the country with the most Nobel laureats, German was the scientific lingua franca rather than English and the technological advance of the unified Germany from 1871 to 1945 was a sheer miracle. After WWII, there was a denazification in Germany. The soviets looted all the industry and infrastructure that was still intact while the US declared the scientific headfigures "exonerated" and recruited them for their own scientific projects in the Cold War, so that nowadays the US is the scientific powerhouse of the world. And that is what they have always done since the Indian Wars up to now: conquering land and stripping it from its resources, human and non-human. Most people forget that Germany is still an occupied country that has to give some of its territory to the US to run their bases to attack the Near East. Vae victis!
@rolfpitsch5002
@rolfpitsch5002 4 жыл бұрын
I am almost 78. I was three years and two days old when World War II ended!
@rolfpitsch5002
@rolfpitsch5002 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nikioko, first, I will agree with you that Germany is still an occupied country! However, it is still the economic and scientific powerhouse of Europe! You must understand why Germany was divided for so long! The reason that Germany was divided so long was that so it would not become again the economic and scientific powerhouse of Europe but that effort failed!
@FabFunty
@FabFunty 4 жыл бұрын
​@@rolfpitsch5002 I was wondering about the complaining upward of occupation and the mentioning of immigration to the country of one of the occupants, in almost the same sentence. Maybe you should also mention that you lived in the soviet occupation zone, I think that was an aspect too and that you presumably didn't had much to do with the decision to emigrate at the age of 8. And what are "ideas that are different than they have any particular subject" ? That doesn't make sense. Are you thinking of divergent opinions, like the "I don't like your shoes" what you'll probably hear more often in Germany than in the USA or what ?
@eikejmeyer
@eikejmeyer 4 жыл бұрын
Great video that picks up on an important topic. Also, it is helpful to get a perspective from someone who has encountered this phenomenon. Depending on the cultural part of society you live in, you may very rarely personally encounter racism. That does not mean it doesn't exist. Everyone who encounters it should speak out against it. Just like with any other form of discrimination or bullying. All people should be treated with respect.
@FantastickDark2
@FantastickDark2 4 жыл бұрын
Danke für deinen Einsatz. Danke für die Aufklärung
@Ari33sa
@Ari33sa 4 жыл бұрын
We don't have free speech in germany the way it is often talked about in the US. We have 'Freedom of opinion'.
@Dr_Klops
@Dr_Klops 4 жыл бұрын
And that's tha absolute correct way. As long as most regretting that, refuse to take responsibility for their acting.
@linuxpython935
@linuxpython935 4 жыл бұрын
Do we, really? You may think whatever you want, but you are allowed to say only very little of it, unless you are parroting the government.
@Dr_Klops
@Dr_Klops 4 жыл бұрын
@@linuxpython935 Nonsense - you want your own freedom but in no case the freedom of the others to give you a matching answer.
@linuxpython935
@linuxpython935 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dr_Klops Look into the mirror - that is what *YOU* want.
@linuxpython935
@linuxpython935 4 жыл бұрын
@Stephan Maurer For instance saying true, but unpleasant things, about Jews or Israel, or analyzing certain historic events in unwanted detail, for a start? Saying true, but undesirable things, about muslims? Saying certain things about our economic order? There are also a lot of other things which are nigh impossible to talk about, at least as long as you need a job and don't have your private security.
@martinstubs6203
@martinstubs6203 4 жыл бұрын
You can fight crime, brutality, discrimination, hate speech etc. but how do you fight sentiments?
@Natibert
@Natibert 4 жыл бұрын
Through real integration! The city (in Germany) I life in has a migration rate of over 50% of its inhabitants. Every year (except for this year due to corona) there is a hugh "international street festival" on one weekend in the summer where the whole center of the city is being transformed to a hugh conglomeration of food stands/booths of countries from all over the world. Additionally there are different groups that perform dances and play songs of their cultural roots. So it is as easy as it can be for you to experience the different cultures and appreciate them. Of course that`s just one event and there have to be done more for real integration. Another thing I can think of is the "café international" where there are refugees invited to coffee and cake in a place where they can be met by regular inhabitants of the city, so that there is a personal exchange between the people. [Sorry, for possible bad english.]
@martinstubs6203
@martinstubs6203 4 жыл бұрын
@@Natibert Das ist ja alles gut und schön - wo ich wohne, gibt es das auch. Aber erreicht man damit wirklich intolerante, fremdenfeindliche Menschen? Ich glaube, das Problem liegt tiefer, nämlich in einem tief im menschlichen Wesen eingeprägten Abgrenzungsbestreben. Andernfalls gäbe es ja keine nach Volksgruppen und kulturellen Merkmalen abgegrenzten Wohnbereiche in den Städten dieser Welt oder überhaupt Völker und Staaten. Nach meiner Meinung kann Integration und friedliches Zusammenleben jetztlich nur gelingen, wenn man nicht die Abgrenzung selbst, sondern ihre bösen Ausprägungen brandmarkt und bekämpft.
@nihdoking1470
@nihdoking1470 4 жыл бұрын
@@martinstubs6203 So weit ich weiß, helfen solche Sache tatsächlich dagegen. Denn der Kontakt mit anderen Kulturen und andere Kulturen in deiner Gesellschaft, fördern nachweislich die Akzeptanz in der Gesellschaft.
@eneaqoshi
@eneaqoshi 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the main issue in Germany today isn't racism but xenophobia. It's not like people judge you here for the colour of your skin or your facial features but more from where you're from. Because i migrated from Albania (South Europe) to Germany (and i am 50% Albanian 50% Mexican) and i've never faced discrimination by my skin tone. Or maybe i am an exception, i don't know.a
@Jay-ff6kq
@Jay-ff6kq 3 жыл бұрын
No it is also racism it just shows itself different. People here are racist in school systems, work placed etc it is waaay more in secret
@MegaJJ1968
@MegaJJ1968 4 жыл бұрын
I am very impressed about your analysis and perception of things about here in Germany. It’s pretty much spot on. You also mentioned a couple of things about your homeland, let’s not go to this topic right now. I had the privilege to live there for eight years, and I am just scared for these people I learned to love. Your video is great. Especially talking about our Turkish population here rings a bell to me. We for sure have racists here. You in the States as well. It’s got different faces. It’s still the same piece of shit. Pardon my French. Emotional times. Keep up the good work. ✊
@MrBuzzwords
@MrBuzzwords 4 жыл бұрын
Racism is a very delicate topic. Anyone who talks about racism is entering a dangerous minefield. If you talk about it with your friends, you may have to find new friends afterwards ... The problem starts with the fact that very often there is not even agreement about what racism means. That would be the question of a generally accepted definition of racism. Everyone believes to know what racism is. Unfortunately everyone has his own - often very subjective - definition. People who understand something completely different under a certain term do not talk about the same thing.They talk past each other... The next problem are different levels of conversation. Racism can be discussed on an emotional or rational level. What doesn't work at all is a rational discussion with someone who only wants to discuss the issue emotionally. Such conversations usually end in a catastrophe. Imagine someone tells you that he doesn't like illegal refugees. If I understood this correctly in your video, you find the term "illegal" negatively connotated. That's right. But if someone is "illegally" in a country, then he or she is "illegally" there. It's just a fact. Calling someone a thief isn't very nice either. But if he is a thief, you can call him so. The most important point is why someone says or does something.You can't tell if it's racism until you know that. Racism is a personal attitude. According to the classical (old) definition, racists consider other "races" as inferior and therefore reject them. Today the (new) concept of racism is interpreted much wider. There is no longer a discussion about the reason for racism. Whoever says something negative about foreigners must be a racist. That thought is way to simple ... There can be valid objective reasons for this. For example increased crime rates or increased costs for the welfare state. Whoever rejects foreigners just because they are foreigners may well be a real racist. But that should be reviewed before reaching a conclusion.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Hello. Thank you for your comment. I think that the most important thing we can do as individuals is to have these difficult conversations with those within our sphere and to confront our own and others racist ideologies. I am not blameless either. I know for a fact that I have harbored harmful and racist stereotypes of people before. We need to be willing to acknowledge those feelings and to talk to others about WHY we feel these things and how to best deconstruct these thoughts. I am sure there are online resources about how to best approach the topic of racism with friends, family, and colleagues. I don't believe fear of conflict should hold us back from having these conversations. If I lose friends because we differ on who we believe deserves respect and equality, then I don't think I want to be friends with them anyways.
@MrBuzzwords
@MrBuzzwords 4 жыл бұрын
@@taylorintransit3421 I think that most people don't want to be friends with racists. But I could also guess that it's difficult to be friends with someone who thinks everything is racism, that he considers personally as unfair. With this I just want to say that you only should use the term racism if you are absolutely sure. The world is not fair or just. But not every unfair or cruel act has something to do with racism. Sometimes it's only "ordinary" viciousness.
@aniflowers1998
@aniflowers1998 4 жыл бұрын
I think the mentality to use "they are foreigners" as a sort of explanation goes hand in hand with the mentality to use it as an excuse. "They are foreigners, they don't know how the things here work yet. A lot is different where they come from" I myselfe use it quiet a view times when I hear people complain about how terrible the refugese treat the places they get to live in (smashed toiled seats, burnd wallpaper, a bunch of trash outside and inside the house, etc). I always try to calm others down with "they are new here. No one explained to them how these things work here yet" after I learned that some places in the middle east don't have the same toilets we have, or that trash sorting isn't really a thing in other countrys. It doesn't really excuse people behaving like wild animals, but it's at least an attempt to keep the malice down becouse a view bad apples don't determine the howl batch. There are quiet a view who addapt just fine and behave like human beeings, those who behave like trash just stick out more and ruine the reputation of everyone else, and that's sad. Also, I totaly give our goverment the fault for them not understanding a lot of things here! Put less money in giving them mobilephones and flat screen tv's and instead put it in actuall well developed learning programs for ctists sake! You can't just expect them to catch on to those things if they don't even know those things are a thing! (A midle eastern family once made a bon fire on there balkony becouse no one explained to them that you can't do that here! I'm just glad they didn't acidentaly set the house on fire!) I'm also not saying people from other countrys are stupid. But different customs are a thing. Someone who grew up in a different place can't just understand all the new things in a week or so. Hell, if I where to move to japan I would probably sink like a ship on my own becouse I would fail to understand most of the customs! And Japan isn't even that much different to europ in basic things!
@Jonscify
@Jonscify 4 жыл бұрын
Dont worry, we got our bunch of racist assholes too. My sisters boyfriend is from Kenya (and btw apart from the color of his skin the most stereotypical german guy i know) and when my sister started dating him, some older neighbours trashtalked about it. Same for a friend of mine and her black boyfriend who lived together in a very conservative area in bavaria. When they walked the streets together, some crazy old people literally closed the window shutters (maybe they where afraid of getting robbed? idk, people are strange). I think racism is part of our evolutionary heritage as humans (see: in group - out group thinking). We all have to constantly question our biases and work to become better people. That beeing said, the political climate in the US has shifted so fucking far to the right, i never thought thats possible. Germanys society actually learned a lot from WW2 and the holocaust. But all the advancements have to be defended constantly, because its just way too easy to put people in boxes based on race, social economical status, religion (or the lack thereof) etc. We all are sometimes guilty of it, its just important we are aware of it and work on the problem.
@mrbigd75
@mrbigd75 3 жыл бұрын
I love people recognizing the TRUTH💯💯.
@nikonerf8410
@nikonerf8410 3 жыл бұрын
You say you were privileged because you did not experience racism in your childhood but that sounds strange to german ears. No offense - i just noticed that US americans generally tend to use that word in a completely different way that we germans usually do. In germany we see a privilege not only as something that only a small amount of people have - we see it as something that only a small amount of people SHOULD have. For instance we would say something like: "Its a privilege to get this medal" but never "Its a privilege to never experience racism and harassment through the police" In german "PRIVILEG" is something that is always ABOVE the norm. It seems that privilege has a different meaning in english language. And i have to say i get really angry when i hear that you have to witness such unbelievable stupidity that people pull their eyes back to mimic asians etc That is truly disgusting. You are absolutely beautiful and smart! Don't let these haters get into your head. Probably just some drunk idiots.
@KarlDMarx
@KarlDMarx 4 жыл бұрын
Someone raised an interesting point: Why does the "presenter" identify herself as "Asian-American". A couple of years ago I had a discussion in China, in English. I have an Australian mate, who is very passionate about spreading English as a key to success. For me this guy is "just" Australian, born in the 1940s in Sydney. His ancestors migrated from Canton to Australia around 1860. Since they stuck to other Chinese, my friend William Arthur Wong (only the family is changed) looks very "ethnically Chinese". So someone labelled him Chinese Australian and some others ABC. I contested this label. William Arthur is as pure an Aussie as they come. He used to play rugby and he speaks with a broad Australian accent and … he doesn't speak Chinese. His manners are authentically Australian; ok he can use chopsticks. I migrated to Australia in 1988. My elder daughter was a toddler and her younger sister was born here. Nobody has ever questioned their nationality or called them Caucasian Australian. Perhaps, just like in the USofA and possibly Canada, the default setting is still Caucasian. I didn't even know what it meant before I moved here and was asked to state my racial/ethnic background. Having lived and worked in seven different countries I am of course aware of these silly divisive discourses based on people's different backgrounds. I think in Germany they were probably held hidden under the thick carpet of guilt. I feel privileged to have grown up in a country where patriotism was suppressed. As a child I spent a lot of building sites being spoilt by workers from many countries: Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Turkey, Yugoslavia … Nationalities were irrelevant. I felt absolutely safe and protected. At the time I didn't understand how meanly some. even most of them. were treated. One guy from Sicily had become a family friend and was a regular visitor on Sundays. He, like most of these "guestworkers"men, had no family in Germany. Michele from Sciacca had left school when he was about 12. So his educational level was pretty low, but he was a very good man and very sober. Many migrant workers on building sites were very appreciated because they would turn up on time every day including Mondays when many "German" workers were still too drunk to turn up for work. Of course not all immigrants are angels and not all Germans were Nazis. I am also aware that I am a beneficiary of those racists colonials that paved the way. Humanity has to become more colourblind.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Karl. Thanks for the question. I think that it depends on how you choose to label yourself as well as how others label you. I was labeled by others as Asian-American before I fully began to embrace what that exactly meant. Some grow up speaking an Asian dialect and others have had culture and traditions past down from their parents and grandparents, but for me it is mostly about my looks as I don't have contact with the Asian side of my family. It is hard to explain unless you are maybe a minority yourself, but there is power in reclaiming that identity that was thrown at you as an insult and to join a community who has had similar experiences.
@KarlDMarx
@KarlDMarx 4 жыл бұрын
@@taylorintransit3421 Thank you for your reply. I am really curious in regard to labelling, either by the bearer or by another person. Recently I discovered Shlomo Sand (The Invention of the Jewish People) … I had a few personal experiences that made me question labels. I was teaching in China and in one of my classes was a "perfectly Caucasian/European/White looking young lady. The other students were intrigued when she answered other Han Chinese students' question as to her origins with: "I am Chinese. She then explained that she was an ethnic Kazak of Chinese nationality. The Chinese constitution lists 56 different "nationalities. In China this it is much rarer to see Chinese nationals who are "visibly different". I must admit that I had to look at the video again because I hadn't really identified as Asian. Thank you for your contribution to the debate on racism. I gave up my law studies after watching a trial of two German prison guards who had killed a black prisoner who was imprisoned for some minor offence. Listening to these guys it was almost as if the couldn't even understand why they were on trial. We need more colourblindness. Sorry … old man ranting on.
@Jay-in-the-USA
@Jay-in-the-USA 4 жыл бұрын
The incident with the woman in New York was so embarassing to watch....she should have known better than that. He caught her out.😄
@ingonagel7169
@ingonagel7169 4 жыл бұрын
Der Fremde ist nur in der Fremde fremd.(Karl Valentin) A very good job you have done. Congrats. There is an aspect of localism in Germany that is on the one part in the way of recognizing racism and on the other side easily mistaken for racism. If you come to a village in Germany and speak the wrong dialect you can encounter strong feelings getting close to racism. For a non Bavarian speaking person to be accepted as a local it takes very long. So there is a very strong culture of localism. And here the problem starts in realizing racism, xenophobia and antisemitism. I had a long discussion with a south African imigrant and his experience of racism/police in Germany. And it clearly exists. There is racial profiling, everywhere. And through the whole discussion I was trying to find a way for me to believe that it is not racial and only injust (Unrecht). I know germans that happen to tell me about extreme and permanent profiling by the police too. But there is a component of racism in Germany that is sneaking up at every possible instance. During corona asians were discredited. The Arab gangs are big as a fear world now. The Russians! Always welcome (there are Deutschrussen everywhere (very bad people) (if there are no turks around or tschuschen (i actually am not certain if that's easteuropeans in general or only slawonic people) and don't get started with the French and the polish. Rom,sinti.) Maybe in Germany racism is found in so many shades that it is easier to condem and harder to be aware in so many places. Cheers
@albin2232
@albin2232 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly put. I'm with you all the way 💯
@romandarius6041
@romandarius6041 3 жыл бұрын
Racist is a word used only on white people
@aidekhia81
@aidekhia81 Жыл бұрын
Im half asian/german and sad to say my german dad called most black people he dont know personally the german n word or muslims as kana..... but he had many friends from different countries with different skin colors and was never called by them racist what he wasnt. He was old he born right after ww2 happen and when i said to him its sounds racist he just looked at me confused.
@mwngw
@mwngw 4 жыл бұрын
Opposition is not racism, just opposition.
@thahnberlin
@thahnberlin 4 жыл бұрын
As a german I wish someone like You will sit in the White House someday!
@vbvideo1669
@vbvideo1669 4 жыл бұрын
Sehr interessantes Video. Diskriminierung ist niemals und nirgends eine gute Sache!
@thkempe
@thkempe 4 жыл бұрын
Diskriminieren bedeutet erst mal bloß, zu unterscheiden. Wenn man das Unterschiedliche unterscheidet, so ist daran nichts Verkehrtes. Schlecht wäre, das Unterschiedliche sachwidrig gleich zu behandeln. Das Problem besteht also eigentlich darin festzulegen, welche Unterscheidungen (sach)gerecht sein sollen und welche nicht.
@rolfpitsch5002
@rolfpitsch5002 4 жыл бұрын
What I am afraid of in this country, that the honest expression of ideas is there! And President Trump is appealing to the less educated just as Hitler was! This type of situation always winds up with disaster. As far as exchanging political views, was never a a problem in Germany if done privately! Here it can't be done privately or publicly without suffering consequences.
@michaelutech4786
@michaelutech4786 4 жыл бұрын
I believe that racism in the US is not even really the core of the problem. There certainly is racism in the US, but it's far more disturbing to me that police officers can overstep their boundaries so much and act like street thugs. They are covered by police unions preventing the chain of command from applying disciplinary actions if their superiors would even consider them. If that fails the local justice officials would not charge them or massively undercharge them. And of course as the process traverses the justice system, each step will provide another level of security of malicious officers (coroners would bagatellize injuries as in "the headshot contributed to the cause of death") . The legislation likewise provides them with special immunities which are effectively suspending citizens constitutional rights when facing officers. All involved institutions would look away or are otherwise tuned to protect these cops. You find the same situation in the military, where war criminals are likewise covered by all involved parties and I am sure there are many such structures in areas that are less prone to public interest or just less visible. Trump did a great job in exposing just how far this corruption is reaching. All checks and balances provided by the constitution are effectively disabled. A president with 34% of senate support can do whatever he wants and does not need to be worried at all. All regulatory bodies in the USA are now basically self destructing, all executive institutions are mostly aligned with one political force. What is lacking to transform the USA into a totalitarian state is nothing more than the ambition and maybe the competence. If Trump would be more charismatic, less crazy and less malignant, he could probably start designing a crown. But it even gets worse. Americans have been known (stereotypically) for their solidarity and compassion (maybe not across racial and tribal boundaries). I do not see any justification for this old stereotype anymore. What you find is a deep suspicion and discontent with any value the society or state provides to individuals. Public health care, public education, social services, all of these things that seem to be the very reason why we would want to enter a society are understood by many if not most Americans as theft. The only state services that are widely accepted are those that defend the country against external threats and then of course the police that saves the community against another kind of external threads (here is where racism plays an identifying role). The society in the USA seems to lack the very fabric that should hold it together. The only values that are consistently supported in American society are personal freedom and property. All other values are disregarded as romantic fantasies or the daydreams of marxist Antifa terrorists (that mostly includes the liberal leaning Americans). The lack of common values directly translates into a lack of common sense. Listening to discussions in the US is a torturous experience for the average European. The racial aspect, especially the recent examples of George and Taylor are unbearable. But I really believe that these incidents as well as the systematic racist background are symptoms for a much more dire problem. I left Germany some 10+ years ago, quite a while before the appearance of the AfD. I desperately hope that I am not describing the Germany of today or tomorrow here. For the Germany I know, it must really feel like America is on the way to become the Germany of my grand parents. It's not yet there, but the way to go is not too long either. The AfD is probably very amused and feels very much vindicated looking at the big brother overseas.
@Obsidianen
@Obsidianen 4 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that people dont really talk about the racism in asian countries tbh. You dont want to be black an china trust me, and even japan is highly racist towards other ethnicities. This is not meant to be an apology, but it had to be said. I am living in germany as a third generation half turkish adult and had to endure some racist moments in my life myself.
@aphextwin5712
@aphextwin5712 4 жыл бұрын
There are aspects of the education system in Germany that reinforce social and racial ‘segregation’. In my elementary school, maybe a quarter of pupils had a ‘Migrationshintergrund’. At Gymnasium, only one out of 70 students in my year belonged to that category (and he was Greek, which is a cut above Turkish in the social status hierarchy). Meaning, having a Migrationshintergrund pretty much meant you ended up in the Haupt- or Realschule. As a consequence, my social group growing up didn’t really include anybody with foreign roots. Church and sport were outlets that crossed the school type divide, though the former naturally didn’t include anybody with Turkish roots (which partially applies also to those from former Yugoslavia), and as a Protestant ‘conveniently’ also excluded Catholic (and Orthodox) Southern Europe. Youth sport typically not being linked to specific schools in Germany might be the one area where the German system does a bit better in integration than the U.S..
@swanpride
@swanpride 4 жыл бұрын
That has little to do with racial profiling and a lot with the general support a child gets at home (partly the language is the issue). Plus, it was the other way around with me. When I was in Grundschule, the only "foreign" pupil was from a nearby asylum seeker home, and she was only around for a year. But in the Gymnasium, there were multiple girls with Asian, Turkish and Afghan background. Emphasis on "girls". With one Afghan girl it was actually the parents we initially doubted to send a second daughter to a "higher school" and the school itself had interfered after one year telling them that they really should reconsider and send them to a gymnasium instead (with the third daughter, it wasn't an issue anymore).
@aphextwin5712
@aphextwin5712 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't say there was any intent in applying racial prejudice. Just that this relatively early separation into different school types resulted in this social and racial segregation. (There could be some subconscious 'profiling' via the Schulempfehlung but that was not the point I was trying to make. My point was simply that school is a big social integrator for children and separating children relatively early on cements some of the pre-existing segregation.)
@swanpride
@swanpride 4 жыл бұрын
I guess this depends a little bit on the Bundesland...We did some sort of intelligence test towards the end of Grundschule, and while the results weren't shared, the recommendations were largely based on it. I know because my teacher (who had a problem with me, largely because I wasn't my sister) ended up recommending me largely based on the test, even though other pupils had similar marks I did, but were only heading for Realschule. Whatever the test exactly was, it was pretty much spot on, because of the eight children in my class who went to the gymnasium, only half had the recommendation, and that was the half which was still around by the time of Abitur. The others struggled too much. There are advantages and disadvantages in the system. One of the advantages is that it allows students who struggle with the higher levels to NOT spend the school career frustrated, but instead are able to experience successes on the level which fits their abilities. And if those abilities exceeds, it's not like you can't shuffle students up later on.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of truth in this. There is a problem with integrating students of minority groups is a major issue in many societies and there must be much more done to make sure that there is equal access to quality education for everyone.
@barbaramassey3787
@barbaramassey3787 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insights!
@flashnfantasy
@flashnfantasy 4 жыл бұрын
Is there something less discriminating than "ausländer", because i think this is the political correct term. It is just the context, that may be discriminating. But after all, the the bureau for foreign affairs is "die Ausländerbehörde". And about illegal migrants, technical this term is correct. People who enter the country without an official permission are illegal. That's why every nation in the world have visa-laws. This has nothing to do with the dreadful situation these people are in. With the process of obtaining refugee or asylum-status these people can become legal migrants. But every country has the right to refuse people an entry, if they have no valid visa. Just because germany made it look like it is taken for granted, you can get a misleading perception. AfD, it is pain to see these imbeciles still finding an audience, but, Trump and the AfD are one of a kind, and after all Trump was elected president.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Mathias, I think that when it comes to the use of the words I discussed it really comes down to context. Of course saying someone is a foreigner in certain contexts isn't meant as an insult, but in a lot of cases it is. The way that people use words gives them power. When someone says the term illegal immigrant it places them in the same category as criminals. I don't think that anyone hoping to escape danger and harm or hoping to provide better, safer lives for their children is a criminal. I totally get your point that these words can also be used under legitimate circumstances, but I think many people use the socially created meaning behind these words to convey different connotations.
@Skyl3t0n
@Skyl3t0n 4 жыл бұрын
Here are my thoughts on racism in Germany: My parents imigrated from Croatia to Germany about 40 years ago. I was born and raised in germany so i consider Germany my home although we go to Croatia at least twice a year and many of my relatives still live there. So while being german we still cherish our Croatian heritage and i can speak both languages but i can't think of any hostile discrimination towards us which is probably also due to us being pretty much completely intigrated. Of course we sometimes joke about that within our group of friends but that's something we also do to "real" germans. Like there are typical behaviours that germans do that are being made fun of (we call those people "Almans" btw). I think most discrimination is towards people who just choose to not integrate into society which i can understand since i think that it is important to preserve ones culture and values. With events like the "Gastarbeiter"-waves there were many people who brought their own values and didn't accept the german ones while still taking advantage of the benefits Germany offers. So my conclusion on discrimination in germany is that because some people of said minority brought "danger" to the german culture many germans started to generalize (like humans tend to do) and started developing negative stereotypes towards immigrants. Those stereotypes then slowly started to become more extreme for some people and parties like the AfD were formed. But this is something that will be negated over time since living in a country kinda forces you to accept its culture. I think that sums it up pretty well.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Can I ask if you look dissimilar to what ethnic Germans are thought to look like? White skin with blonde or brown hair? I think that people from other parts of the world who don't look different have an easier time integrating. There are also groups of people who automatically have more stereotypes placed upon them. I'm not sure if I've ever heard of a Croatian stereotype. But every person's experience is different!
@Skyl3t0n
@Skyl3t0n 4 жыл бұрын
@@taylorintransit3421 Well it's true that you have it easier in general if u look caucasian but this doesn't apply to everybody. Especially polish people face unfair stereotypes similar to turkish people. To be honest i think that black and asian people are the least affected by this since they make up the smallest minority in our society so people don't mind except they are straight up racist. When I think back to school (which was a year ago lol) those people always had the easiest time making friends. The problem with the refugees was that there were millions of them all of a sudden. I think it's comparable to mexicans in the US.
@lalala3440
@lalala3440 4 жыл бұрын
@@Skyl3t0n Polish people are white. White people can't face racism.
@Skyl3t0n
@Skyl3t0n 4 жыл бұрын
@@lalala3440 And why is that?
@lalala3440
@lalala3440 4 жыл бұрын
@@Skyl3t0n Reverse racism is not possible. Educate yourself.
@faultier1158
@faultier1158 4 жыл бұрын
From what I have seen (as a white German), your take on this looks very similar to how I see it. Racism is absolutely a thing. Stuff on that level is pretty common: some dudes calling the South Korean football team "Chinese". And from time to time, I even hear someone calling a black person the N word. The fact that the police doesn't regularly murder people is pretty good, but there was a case where a man burned to death while he was in police custody, which is widely suspected to be a murder. And there's right wing terrorism. And often, the police finds internal police documents in the possession of those terrorists, so there are definitely terrorist sympathisers in the police. But one thing that's very different between the US and Germany is the usage of the word "race", because it's not used to describe differences between humans in Germany. Using the word on people is considered racist, because it's part of the right wing esotheric race theory and because humans don't actually have different races. It's so weird to see that word used so much in the US, because people are essentially reproducing racist ideology by doing it.
@swanpride
@swanpride 4 жыл бұрын
I think you don't really appreciate on how many level in the system racism is a big deal in the US. So, yes, we have problems, just like every place, because racism (and sexism) seems to be like Hydra. But in the US, it already starts with the apartment where you life in. Did you know that even rich Afro-American women run into a higher risk of loosing their child due to complications in their pregnancy due to their worries not being taking as serious as the worries of white women? Did you know that until fairly recently, black neighbourhoods had a problem with lead in the wall paint, which lead to a lot of health issues (one of the effects of constant lead exposure is btw a more violent behaviour)? Do you realise that there are black neighbourhood in which it is pretty much impossible to buy healthy food? Do you appreciate how much of a difference it makes in which kind of school your child goes? And that the army just loves to recruit in black neighbourhoods? And how much more likely Afro-Americans get a prison sentences for offenses white people just get away with? And that are all aspects before you get to the danger of just getting shot for the crime of, well, existing. None of those are problems in Germany. There is no minority living here which has a lower live-expectancy than the general population. And don't get me wrong here, Germany still has a long was to go. But to act as if there isn't a huge gap in racism, especially systemic racism, between the US and Germany is understating how deep the problem in the US truly runs. And that is dangerous.
@faultier1158
@faultier1158 4 жыл бұрын
@@swanpride True. I agree that Germany has a lot less systematic oppression, which is very relevant. The everyday racist behavior of people seems a lot more similar from what I heard though. But due to the lack of a "race" choice on forms, Germany has less data on some of those things. (there are very good reasons to not include that on forms though)
@swanpride
@swanpride 4 жыл бұрын
There is some problems with potential employers not considering people with Turkish sounding names, and our police does some racial profiling in some states (not to the degree the US does). So we are not completely free of systemic oppression. It would be good if more companies would adopt going by the Lebenslauf only. That would help women, too. It's not like you can't study those things by taking representative data.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Hello! Thank you for your comment. Yes, race is a socially constructed concept, but it is ingrained in the American psyche in an uncompromising way. I have seen this interesting post circulating online about how being "color blind" actually does a disservice to POC because it devalues the racial experiences they have had - about how we should acknowledge that people of different "races" have unique experiences which are just as valuable but still different. I also want to make another video in the next few days where I go more in depth on this topic.
@manofvalour6982
@manofvalour6982 4 жыл бұрын
The word "racism" has evolved over the years. Now if I prefer a certain race as attractive to another that is now racist.
@manofvalour6982
@manofvalour6982 3 жыл бұрын
@@dr.livesey7595 you not making any sense whatsoever
@Dahrenhorst
@Dahrenhorst 4 жыл бұрын
Very good comments here. Although there for sure is racism in Germany, I don't think that it can be compared to the situation in US at all. As you mentioned in your video, in the US "race" is part of US policy, what implies that something like "race" does not only exist, but also is a very relevant characteristic to describe a person. In Germany, this is not only not the case, it is actually forbidden and punishable by law to do that. That does not prevent racism on an individual basis, but you can't show your racist opinions that easy and definitly makes it nearly impossible to act on it. As you pointed out, history taught Germans a lesson. We all know very well what racism is and to what it can lead. We are all schooled (a lot!) about the dangers of racism. That not only reduces the numbers of racists through education, but also sensibilizes the society to recognize racism and to fight it when it becomes evident. However, it does not exterminate racism totally, racism is smouldering hidden in many different niches and crannies. That is the one good thing about the AfD: you now can identify racists much more easily in Germany, because one can't be a member of this party without being a racist to some extend.
@thkempe
@thkempe 4 жыл бұрын
This society fights racism where it doesn't exist. The term cultural "racism" proves it. It is easier to mobilize past fears by calling any prejudice or xenophobia "racist". This behavior threatens our freedom of expression and speech. And thus democracy itself.
@Dahrenhorst
@Dahrenhorst 4 жыл бұрын
@@thkempe Prejudice is the fuel for racism and xenophobia is just one symptom of racism.
@thkempe
@thkempe 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Dahrenhorst So if I'm not willing to share everything my people owns with everyone from elsewhere and instead preserve it for my children and grandchildren, I must be a racist? My people has lost great parts of its country during the 20th century. I prefer to keep the poor rest for ourselves.
@Dahrenhorst
@Dahrenhorst 4 жыл бұрын
@@thkempe No, that standpoint is not necessarily racist, but definitly selfish, egotistical and narcissistic. This statement is of the same quality as to say, _so if I'm blond with blue hair, I must be a Scandinavian?_ or _I have never seen a black swan, therefore there are no black swans_ (that's 1st Semester Philosophy, Logic). History would be another subject you should invest more time in. Just to answer the question, why your people has lost great parts of its country. Since it looks like that you have missed major parts of schooling, as you seem do not know that. And lastly, tell those people who have lost everything in wars, that what you have is just a poor rest, and hear them either laughing at you because they think you try to be funny, or looking at you confused and wondering what alternative reality you are talking about.
@thkempe
@thkempe 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dahrenhorst I do know, but it doesn't matter why my people lost their territory, what is btw now considered a crime against humanity, only the simple fact that it lost it, counts. And we have not committed war crimes against those who are now trying to immigrate. We don't owe them anything. We only owe it to our children and grandchildren to preserve and manage well what is left. We can share the fruits of the field, but we should not give away the field itself. And: it is a myth, a myth to fool people, that these migrants had lost everything through war. Most of them emigrate from their home countries due to a lack of perspective.
@ThePixel1983
@ThePixel1983 4 жыл бұрын
As a German I immediately crossed my fingers in hope of Germany not being too bad...
@boahkeinbockmehr
@boahkeinbockmehr 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of German crosses their finger for something? We press our thumbs! Crossed fingers are a gesture of lying
@Fidi987
@Fidi987 4 жыл бұрын
@@boahkeinbockmehr Maybe that is also an issue? If something goes wrong in the country you live in/ come from that you do not condone, it is not your personal fault, if you did everything you could to prevent this in your personal surroundings, you need not feel guilty. You can say ”I am German/ American/ other nationality and do not like x, but it occurs in my country sometimes/ often“. You can then try to find out if and how you can change that situation. You are IMHO still allowed to identify with and love/ like your country or certain aspects of it. You need not say, “either I love my country/ like living here/ like certain aspects of culture and landscape etc. and then hate myself for the bad things happening there OR I hate my country.“ You can be nuanced about this!
@boahkeinbockmehr
@boahkeinbockmehr 4 жыл бұрын
@@Fidi987 how is that in any way or form related to my comment talking about 2 specific German hand-gestures?
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
I think he was responding to the original comment.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
I agree! We can love certain aspects of our community / society but still push for social and political change!
@Ophomox
@Ophomox 4 жыл бұрын
Das faszinierende an dem Begriff "Rassismus" gerade im Vergleich zu "racism" ist, dass die Bedeutung unklar ist. Der englisch Begriff "racism" ist weiter gefasst wie der deutsche Begriff "Rassismus" in seinem traditionellen Verständnis; neuere deutsche Auslegungen gleichen sich wohl dem englischen Begriffsverständnis an. Als "Bio-"Deutscher kurz vor der Midlife Crisis habe ich naturgemäß einen eingeschränkten und einseitigen Blick auf das Thema. Nach meiner Einschätzung ist der"Hautfarbenrassismus" in Deutschland nicht so stark ausgeprägt wie ein "Sprachrassismus". Wer deutscher Muttersprachler ist und den Konventionen folgt, der sollte in der Regel kein Problem haben. Problematisch scheinen mir die Situationen zu sein, wenn Menschen das Gefühl vermitteln, sich nicht vollständig integrieren zu wollen. Da unterscheidet sich Deutschland von einem klassischen Einwanderungsland. Die Transformation zu einem Einwanderungsland scheint mir ein Prozess über mehrere Generationen zu sein. Please excuse, that I write in German - I can't express this in English.
@renzuki5830
@renzuki5830 4 жыл бұрын
In der Wissenschaft wird auch viel eher Xenophobie als Phänomen untersucht, statt Rassismus schlicht weil bei uns die Diskriminierung viel mehr über Nationalität und Herkunft läuft, als über die Hautfarbe.
@Ophomox
@Ophomox 4 жыл бұрын
renzuki Das klingt sehr überzeugend.
@Tarnatos14
@Tarnatos14 4 жыл бұрын
Leider kann ich das nur bedingt bestätigen. Was ich absolut unterstütze ist das Rassismus und Racism sprachlich nicht klar gefasst sind, sowohl im hiesigen und im US Gebrauch. Aber ich kann aus eigener Erfahrung sagen (muss aber das auch dahin gehend einschränken das ich eben natürlich auch nicht repräsentativ bin, dennoch ja eine Realität abbilde) das man als Mensch der optisch (von der Hautfarbe) sehr oft als 'Orientale' (im simpelsten Fall als Spanier oder Italiener) identifiziert wird, der aber in 'bio deutschem' Haushalt geboren, aufgewachsen ect. ist (ich bin kein Muslim und ich spreche auch nur Deutsch neben dem Schulenglisch) dennoch sehr klar (was nicht heißt immer aggressiv oder beledigend oder böswillig) im Alltag zu spüren kommt das man (ich) eben nicht als Zugehörig 'angesehen' (wortwörtlich) wird. Natürlich habe ich einen (halben) biologischen Hintergrund meines Aussehens. Aber der ist biographisch bei mir nicht vorhanden, noch kulturell oder in der Sozialisation. Allein die Optik die die Leute darauf schließen lässt reicht aus um von 'Ausländern' als einer 'von Ihnen' wahrgenommen zu werden und von 'Bio-Deutschen' als mindestens 'der halbe Ausländer'. Und faktisch ist das natürlich falsch da jeder Mensch in Deutschland einen Migrationshintergrund hat, der eben nur teilweise sehr sehr weit zurück reicht und sich nicht mehr optisch geschweige denn vom Habitus niederschlägt. Aber die Optik macht eben doch sehr viel aus.
@herzwieabergwerk
@herzwieabergwerk 4 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank für Deine Worte.
@user-er8tr9kt8l
@user-er8tr9kt8l 3 жыл бұрын
Thats so sweet ... For Americans it was allways hard to figure out whats going on in Germany if its not at least 30 years or so in the past, but you have to give them credit because as she rightfully said: Germans are not as open as Americans wich of course aplys to every part of live and not just racism.
@mathildewesendonck7225
@mathildewesendonck7225 4 жыл бұрын
I still think that there is a difference between racist policemen and random racist people. Everybody should be able to fully trust the police!
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
There is definitely a difference between racism of institutions such as the police and isolated incidents of racism! Obviously, both forms are unacceptable, but structural racism gives credibility to private racism.
@Brian-s3m
@Brian-s3m 3 жыл бұрын
i think the Civil War's main goal wasnt meant to free the slaves as it was to prevent the split of the country
@midget_spinner8449
@midget_spinner8449 4 жыл бұрын
So many foreigners want to speak on life in America like they even know what it’s like to live here. I’ve lived in the ghetto and the suburbs and I understand both side of America. Lemme tell you we can’t judge an entire group off of some bad apples. This includes religion, race, policy, and profession. So think before you speak especially on another nations status.
@chipp849
@chipp849 4 жыл бұрын
Every time I see this racist violence on tv I think of the book a time to kill. By John Grisham, at the very end there is the most memorable sentence for me. Brigance then asks the jury, in his final comment, to "now imagine she's whit
@wardandrew23412
@wardandrew23412 4 жыл бұрын
I would caution listeners not to simply accept as fact the things "Taylor in Transit" says in this video. I too am half Asian, as well as an immigrant, having moved from my native Indonesia, to Holland, then to Germany, then to the US. At no time have I been the target of any racist comments here in the US. I have lived in America since 1970, and in my long experience here, white Americans as a whole are far less racist than the non-whites. What you are hearing in this video is the impressions of of a young woman who has been culturally conditioned to see things through the warped lens of modern "progressivism", where victim status is a type of currency, and in which everyone separated into two classes: oppressors (typically white males) and the oppressed (typically non-whites). This is not reality.
@kraftthisile9113
@kraftthisile9113 4 жыл бұрын
This comment gives me hope that I'm not crazy. It's not all in my head.
@linuxpython935
@linuxpython935 4 жыл бұрын
"Ausländer" is the same as "alien" in the U.S. And yes, it matters whether you are an "Ausländer" or not. But it matters even more from which country, or rather, culture, you come from. You are encouraged to research the reasons why we are recently turning a little bit sour on some groups of foreigners, and what economic impact these people have on our society. Please go read twitter.com/Einzelfallinfos for a start. Depending on how long you have been in Germany, you might be able to see a stark contrast as to what Germany has been only ten years or so ago (much less 30-50 years ago).
@thkempe
@thkempe 4 жыл бұрын
You seem to think that everyone in the world has the right to settle wherever they want, regardless of the permission of the people who own the country. If there is no way to enter legally, there is no right to do it secretly or by force. Instead, people should accept that they cannot immigrate and stay where they were and maybe try to improve the situation in this place.
@ozzi3146
@ozzi3146 3 жыл бұрын
Germany is not racist! Germany is for Love, Peace and Harmony, you can ask Tim Kellner, he is the Love Priest of Germany and the Operator of the black Community in NRW West Germany, East Germany is full of Love Peace and Harmony.
@Maxtherealone
@Maxtherealone 4 жыл бұрын
Das "Ausländer-Thema" in Germany is quite different, compared to the racism in the USA. Of course there are some similarities too, but the are some signifikant differences! It seems like you dont completely understand the "Ausländer-Issue" yet. No offence! 😄 its complex. The majority here has no problems with foreign looking people. Its rather a cultural/religious phobia than a race thing. And there have mistakes been done by both sides.
@Tarnatos14
@Tarnatos14 4 жыл бұрын
Ich denke aber das ist eher eine Frage der Sprachregelung. Letztendlich geht es auch bei dem Rassenthema der USA um Kultur oder umgekehrt auch bei unseren 'kulturell' geführten Debatten (bzw. religös) um 'Rassen'. Wenn man die Begriffe scharf abgrenzt ist das falsch, aber in den scharfen Grenzen von Rasse im Unterschied zu Kultur diskutiert eigentlich niemand das Thema, höchstens wird das zusammen gemengt. (Sogar Hitler hat das in seiner Rassentheorie gemacht er hat die 'Rassenunterschiede' sowohl kulturell und im klassischen sinne 'biologisch-rassisch' gefasst)
@Maxtherealone
@Maxtherealone 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tarnatos14 Ich weiß was du meinst, und gebe dir da auch zum Teil Recht. Allerdings muss man schon konstatieren, dass die Black community in den Usa zu großen Teilen einen Alltag hat, der sich von einem weißen Amerikaner nicht unterscheidet. Ebenso die religiösen Ansichten und kulturellen und gesellschaftlichen Gepflogenheiten sind die Selben, wie die der weißen Amerikaner. Auch sprachlich gibt es keine Barriere. Der schwarze US-Amerikaner ist in der Regel dort geboren und sieht sich voll und ganz als patriotischer Bürger. In Deutschland ist das ganz anders. Da hat der "anständige Deutsche" das Problem mit dem Immigranten eher deshalb, weil dieser die gesellschaftlichen Gepflogenheiten nicht kennt oder achtet. Der Deutsche äußert oft die Angst davor, seine Bräuche und Traditionen zu verlieren. Klassische Themen bei denen Konflikte entstanden, sind da zum Beispiel: -Kreuze sollten in öffentlichen Gebäuden abgehängt werden -Moscheen bauen in Städten -Vollverschleierung -Frauen nicht die Hand geben -Das verschmähen von Schwein in Schulkantinen -Beten während der Arbeitszeit Und so weiter... Diese Probleme haben sie in den USA nicht. Der einzig feststellbare Unterschied untereinander ist dort letztlich die Hautfarbe. Deshalb meine ich schon, dass es hier einen deutlichen Unterschied zwischen klarem Rassismus, also der Abneigung einer Person anderer Hautfarbe gegenüber, alleine aufgrund der Hautfarbe, Und dem was wir hier in Deutschland haben. Was ich hierzulande, zwar nicht gänzlich, aber zumindest größtenteils, als die Angst davor, die Immigranten würden die vor Ort herrschenden Regeln nicht achten, beschreiben würde. Hier muss man schon ganz klar differenzieren, statt allen Äußerungen die in eine kritische Richtung gehen, das Rassismus-Label zu verpassen.
@gissie391
@gissie391 3 жыл бұрын
I am German I lived there and I get called Vietnamese war refugee by my British step dad. They don't let me come home in Germany are offensive regards to speaking German my pappa is German you should see racism towards Germans. I get called Hitler etc here and die Englandetin there I'm fed up with it I am German my son is too we suffered religiously motivated crime my son was battered at home etc they were racist day night. I experienced non those things they do in faulty towers and we are dark haired. And I'm freckled my mum is all over freckled legs every thing. I'm not. I get fed up with being told how white my teeth are. Tribe juda has white teeth too. It's iscmalites who were slave traders to in Christian or Judaism it's not slaves its servants slavery is forbidden in fact it gets death penalty kidnapping a person. I was born I South Africa in UK there were no brown people wierd for me, my British mum was more racist calling them affixes. Here in UK Indian mira treats my mum with racism. Sorry to say British women most prejudicial ones. Its not my ehaviour. It's systematic suppression of me.yes forced adoption is rampant in UK, and yes we split up. My mum kept blaming bullying on me saying I was german, I did not say it all time yes and same as here I had every thing taken off me. Esp as mum alone catholics are worst. We had nothing still my son is brightest in class on benefits as lone mum they discriminated battered him yelled where's your father all the time black woman was racist towards me kept up all night with loud music she was exactly as you describe "bitch is what she called me" in UK pakki was one. I didn't use it or any. Bitch is offensive word here as well as witch. Sorry but racist sexist biggot was my black neighbour she also said something was wrong with me because I was doing hand stands in street I'm not British and I get told I must take nationality of country that looked after me. And I'm I have unlimited leave to remain I find germanies attitude towards me disgusting. Its working class too midcle class not so vocal about it. I'm not Asian but I get called chinky eyes Dr Craig you can see he's struck off. I was 7 years old. I'm German no Chinese. I got called Vietnamese war refugee was attempt made to take me on bus and surrounded by boys telling nur nur nur chinky eyes chinky eyes etc that's what they did to me Dr Craig tried to say I had an aversion to men because I was significantly abused u was called very thorough thinker etc dominated conversation all only started after they knew my nationality I'm not antisemitic etc I obviously knew what it's like I was 7 when I came to UK had no idea bout holocaust was not having any of those characteristics of Germans he said I found out about war afterward I was over ten years old then we were made to watch hiroshima bombing after rash I was saw girl screaming and radiation sickness. Here the Pakistanis are most abusive foul mouthed violent for no reason I don't discriminate I'm not aus lander but I get called die anglanderin despite being German pappa is deutsch I' was inbaiswell mit might be because extremism. I never had problem til here sorry to say Islam is very racist the extremist is any way it says they superior etc Chinescina is very anti West too so is Hinduism etc Hitler was freemason a 33rd degree. No yes well I suffer it here in UK. Since 1998 I haven't had single nights sleep they say stuff like I got temper based on nationality called me Hitler in casualty mocked me about "I didn't kill six million Jews" I'm not Hitler it was staff who did this they thought it was funny called me ill well I'm not mentally ill either I believe whole thing was due to racism but of course they say Germans are not race more racism stereotyping.
@aidtfeldkamp
@aidtfeldkamp 4 жыл бұрын
Correct !
@ozzi3146
@ozzi3146 3 жыл бұрын
Why Austria is the neighbour of Germany, because we are better and the kind of shit is our neighbour, we are not racists, Austria is racist.
@balthazarbeutelwolf9097
@balthazarbeutelwolf9097 4 жыл бұрын
That the George Floyd case is displayed in the US as a case of outrageous racism I find unfortunate, for two reasons. Reason 1 is that it is IMO primarily an issue of police brutality and unaccountability - it affects African-Americans more, but it really affects everyone. It is not just perpetrated by white police officers, it is perpetrated by police officers across the board. If their crime is not clearly documented by video evidence then the police get away with murder, literally. Reason 2 is that is that police brutality and unaccountability is in relative terms much easier to tackle, e.g. by addressing police training, internal and external persecution of police misdemeanours, etc. - mostly things the government and legislative have some control over. So framing it as a racist issue is an excuse to either do f all about police unaccountability, or create specific race-hate-incident regulations for the police that really falls short of the underlying problem. Tackling racism in society itself is much harder.
@taylorintransit3421
@taylorintransit3421 4 жыл бұрын
Police brutality is most definitely an issue that impacts all races in the US, but we can see from research that it disproportionately affects POC than it does whites and for "breaches" that are far less severe. There was an incident of 2 black students that got caught in traffic after cerfew who were complying with police and were tazed and thrown on the ground - for being in their cars. There are countless examples of these events transpiring after no crime or resistance on the part of the POC.
@andrayellowpenguin
@andrayellowpenguin 4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis!
@m.h.6470
@m.h.6470 4 жыл бұрын
The problem that most Germans have with Turkish immigrants, is that they usually don't integrate into German society. Most Germans that I know have absolutely no problem with Turkish people who speak German and contribute to society. But they usually have problems with Turkish people who come (or came) here and expect to continue their lives and their culture, as if they were still in their old country. Especially the older generations usually do not speak *any* German at all (or very very little) and refuse to accept the German culture and even practice the laws of their culture instead of the German laws. *That* is, what Germans don't like about them. Rule of thumb: If you *try* to integrate and *try* to learn the German language, you are _usually_ on the good side of most Germans and they will treat you as such. If you however expect everything to be exactly like in your old country, you will get a lot of resistance and resentment...
@Tarnatos14
@Tarnatos14 4 жыл бұрын
Das Problem ist das du auch 'resistance and resentment' erfährst wenn du allein Deutsch sprichst, nicht muslimisch bist, nicht von einem kulturell außerdeutschem Haushalt aufgezogen wurdest ABER allein oberflächlich so aussiehst. Ich spreche da aus eigener Erfahrung und das meine ich nicht nur negativ. Es ist lustig-erweise doppelt so: die optisch 'Deutschen' sehen einen als 'Ausländer' und die 'Ausländer' sehen dich als 'einen der ihren' und das lässt sich sehr schwer und zum teil gar nicht selbst wenn man sich länger kennt nicht beseitigen. Das heißt selbst wenn alles kulturelle, religöse, sprachliche und vom Habitus her wegfällt lässt sich Behandlung nach Vorurteilen und als 'Fremder' auf reine Optik reduzieren. Leider. Was natürlich nur fair ist zu sagen: das ist zu 110% da bin ich mir sicher nichts was spezifisch deutsch wäre sondern in vielen Ländern so. Außerdem kann ich natürlich nicht behaupten das es keine Gegenbeispiele gibt, da ich hier tatsächlich 'nur' aus eigener Erfahrung berichte. Aber die steht ja auch als ein reales Beispiel des Umgangs.
@lalala3440
@lalala3440 4 жыл бұрын
You sound like white americans who say "but black people are the ones who commit most crimes!" lmao shut up
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