my top 10 nickelodeon ships - ft. my siblings' acting skills

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[@mmagalhaesg]

Hating logan and quinn is simply not an option, enemies to lovers then secret dating. they're a pile up of great tropes, i love them

[@DiabolicalPaperClip]

I love how the show portrays them as opposites on the surface level and then shows how much they really have in common and how good they are for each other later!!!

[@jaredcoygreen8685]

That's what made Zoey 101 one of my all time favorite shows and when I watch my friends kids we always get treats and watch a few episodes before I go home

[@thealisterr]

Y’all really don’t know that Dana and Logan were originally supposed to date😭😭 And let me tell you Quinn and Logan were cute, but Dana and Logan would have fucking outsold. Literally they would’ve been perfect

[@MildlyPerturbed]

@@thealisterrnah, they were too similar. Quinn and Logan actually helped each other grow. Quinn became more at ease, whereas Logan became less focused on physical attraction and mellowed out. Though Dana and Logan were originally supposed to get together, I feel like their relationship would have basically burned down, as they were too similar. Also, Dana was only there for one season. Quinn and Logan had four seasons worth of growth and time spent together.

[@thealisterr]

@@MildlyPerturbed I’m sorry but the Quinn and Logan relationship was definitely NOT the original plan. They had Dana and Logan planned to be endgame from day 1, and if Kristin Herrera (actress who played Dana) didn’t get fired for the offscreen Alexa drama, she would’ve stayed for the 4 seasons and we could’ve had Dana/Logan content for all that time. Just imagine how much they could relate to each other? Both having troubled backgrounds (arrogant rich boy/bad girl dynamic), both love sports (imagine a Dana and Logan basketball match? That would be fucking ICONIC), their flirtatious banter, etc. Just go back and rewatch their scene from the “School Dance” episode, where they’re teasing each other and Logan tries to make out with her. 100% romantic chemistry right there. On the other hand, Quinn and Logan were beyond rushed together in the last season because they hadn’t given most of the other characters any real love interests, and they wanted to give the fans a shocking plot twist to spice up Season 4 because Sean Flynn (Chase) had left for college, and it was lacking without him. Also, before Season 4, Quinn and Logan basically had no romantic chemistry or interactions between each other. They had a few funny minor storylines, but they were acquaintances at worst, and friendly at best.

[@TheRomroe]

Behind the scenes fact: Jackie can execute a perfect impression of every known accent. This has led fans to wonder if we'll ever know which accent is her original.

[@TheRomroe]

You can see her turn it on and off in the blink of an eye. If you watch closely you can hear her say, 'I'm not British' and then accent disappears instantly.

[@unofficiallyregal5819]

As soon as I read “ft my siblings acting skills” I clicked! Is this John’s sequel!?

[@kikicoco5787]

Haha 😂 😂 me too

[@jazleenluna]

HAHA

[@starlightjazzy9974]

watching Zoey 101 as an adult is so interesting because you really do realize how great and how mature their story is done. I liked them a lot.

[@mayarodriguez123]

Watching Zoey 101 as an adult makes you realize how immature and bad the story is done.

[@DiabolicalPaperClip]

i liked that cait mentioned the part where chase acknowledges that staying friends felt like a good idea because then he wouldn't lose their friendship if they dated, because i do feel like that's the dilemma lots of people face irl... even when they realised they were an amazing fit for each other and ended up dating anyways :)

[@Tw0Dots]

@@mayarodriguez123to you, you realize, you mean. Not to them So always the contrarian😂

[@AntonWongVideo]

"Hello, I'm Chase from Zoey 101 and you're watching the Disney Channel" John is SUCH a vibe!!! the way he casually eats the Timbits

[@Onetruefiona]

Video idea: best boy/girl platonic friendships. So many boy/girl friends end up dating I think it would be cool to see one where there was NO feelings eg. Buffy and Cyrus in andi Mack and des and Trish in Austin and ally 💕

[@kehlanijauregui1017]

And Some people say tori and Andre I see it but damn let em be friends

[@yikesgina]

I'm sad Dez and Trish didn't end up together. And somehow Dez and his wife's child ended up a genius?!? 😂💀

[@devonmunn5728]

I do agree that in stories they heavily rely on romantic relationships and acting like characters can't be friends or if they do they will copout and make the would be love interest already have a partner

[@cindyversion1201]

Buffy and Cyrus doesn't count

[@realestsienna]

@@cindyversion1201 how..?

[@mmagalhaesg]

I feel like ned and moze from ned's desclassified deserve at least an honorable mention. i think they're the reason I'm obsessed with best friends to lovers to this day and I always thought the dilemma of them being such great friends that neither wants to act on the feelings bc it's not worth risking the friendship kinda cute

[@ms.marvelous8156]

The iCarly reboot said Sam was in a biker gang and you know what, the idea of that with Sam and Cat being together makes for a very interesting plot line. Like I know Jeanette is done with tv and Ariana is busy being a major pop star (also I think they hated each other while filming the show), but it’d be a great spin off.

[@Billy-fr6li]

As far as I know, Janette and Ariana were friends at the beginning but then something happened or something like that. The ones that hate each other are Ariana Grande and Victoria Justice (the one who plays Tori)

[@ms.marvelous8156]

@@Billy-fr6li that makes sense. It seems there are a lot of nick feuds

[@xoangie97]

@@Billy-fr6li ariana and victoria are on good terms with each other

[@Billy-fr6li]

@@xoangie97 oh, thats good

[@Shaowraven2266]

@@Billy-fr6li yeah they had to debunk the rumors at one point, it sucks that people still hate Victoria, who didn't do anything wrong just because most of the time Ariana fans say they hate each other, and how Ariana was bullied by her, when she wasn't. They always mixed it up with stuff that happened back then when Ariana was in 13 (musical ). Then to me its a very well known fact Jennette and Ariana didn't get along. Jennette even did a video that people assume was about Ariana. It's not confirmed if it is or not though.

[@student8663]

I love how Caitlin has lines memorised, Jackie’s accent skills, Karie’s versatility, John’s slapstick, the stairs

[@HuskerNinja]

I would highly recommend going back and giving Avatar The Last Airbender another watch. I get that the fact it’s animated may be a turn-off for some, but the show is legitimately probably my favorite piece of visual media I’ve ever consumed. The writing, world building and characters are all top-notch (and the voice acting is fantastic too if we’re being honest).

[@jakeylla]

I consider it to be the BEST cartoon ever created

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

How are people turned off by animation? You can literally do anything with animation. It is one of the best formats to consume. Disney, Dreamworks, and Illumination prove that considering how people rewatch most of these movies on repeat.

[@HuskerNinja]

@@gabrielleduplessis7388 I think it’s more the “oh it’s a cartoon so it must be for kids” mindset some people have. I never understood it, personally, but there are some people who think that way.

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

@@HuskerNinja i never understood that philosophy because many animated films and shows are filled with adult humor and scenarios that go over kid’s heads. Road to el dorado is one of them. I always loved it as a kid, but watching it as an adult, i wondered why my mom thought this was appropriate for her child to watch.

[@santanalopez4073]

It’s a Masterpiece among Masterpieces!

[@TheRomroe]

Jackie stayed in character as Zach for three months before shooting. She's the ultimate method actor.

[@TheRomroe]

Her voice reinvigorates the old West in my heart.

[@KC-xq8lu]

Completely agree about Quinn/Logan being an afterthought. It always bothered me that they didn’t get a better reveal with the core characters reacting to their reveal but whatever

[@randomnessatitsfineness190]

Their prom scene confession was adorable but it did always bug me that their friends weren’t there to see it

[@juliasplanet7929]

My favorite Nickelodeon ship (as well as my favorite ship of all time) is Suki and Sokka from Avatar the Last Airbender. They are so sweet to each other and just the cutest. I could honestly go on and on about how much I love them and why they're so great 🥰 I also love Tori and Andre from Victorious, they act like a married couple and would be an adorable best friends to lovers ship of they got together! Oh and Sawyer and Pepper from Bella and the Bulldogs are everything ❤️

[@misshuntress821]

Big yes to Sokka & Suki! They are SO underrated, and such an adorable, well matched pair 🥰

[@venusxpblo]

tori and andré rep exactlyyy 🥺

[@wowjennawow]

sokka and suki & sokka and zuko are easily the best ships in the show and yes i’m biased because sokka is my favorite character lol

[@tsuki3752]

UGHHH i love suki and sokka 😭😭 i was watching recently and suki telling sokka to think of the fan as an extension of the arm and then sokka’s sword master later telling him the same thing. sokka wouldn’t have been as good of a character without suki. their couple moments in the third book are the cutest too. she absolutely accepts his weird and he is an absolute simp for her i love them.

[@growingupwithdisney]

I wish Quinn and Logan happened earlier in the series, like in season 3 (that was when the show was at its prime). It would’ve been cool to see somebody figure out that they were dating. I’d want it to be Chase in season 3, then Lola in season 4 (maybe while she was secretly dating Vince).

[@lateramae]

You forgot one of the worst parts of season three of 'House of Anubis': They make Fabian and Mara end up together!

[@scarletletter2900]

I’m currently rewatching House of Anubis but I REFUSE to watch the 3rd season just because I found out that the ended up together, what a mess!

[@lateramae]

@@scarletletter2900 I know right! They should've just let Fabian be single. Then, he could've reunited with Nina off-screen. Besides, Mara isn't good with boys (*cough cough* Mick and Jerome). On the plus side, we got some cute Eddie and Patricia moments in season three.

[@dragonofthewest6722]

Avatar. Is. The. Best. Series. Ever. You really need to continue watching it, the character development is cheffs kiss

[@juliasplanet7929]

Yessss it's my favorite show ever!

[@drfifteenmd7561]

I love ATLA. 😍🥰

[@9sasa8]

House of Anubis is based of a Belgian/Dutch show called Het huis Anubis. The reason the 3th season of HoA is trash, is that the writers went completely rogue and didn't use any of the plot points from the original show.

[@mayulee1798]

While I agree that season 3 isn't very good, I do believe the reason the writers made a whole new story is because Nathalia Ramos (Nina) left the show to focus on school.

[@thoughtsofaleo2916]

To be fair, even the first two seasons weren't too close to the original show, but I will say that they kind of went off the rails in the third season because of Nathalia leaving and didn't really know what to do about it.

[@frejabs2900]

Jackie for sure slides down those stairs all the time! Can’t convince me otherwise.

[@nic.2175]

I LOVE THESE ACTING SCENES SO MUCH

[@AJ-xc4qe]

I don't know if you take requests, but I'd love to see review Disney XD shows. I honestly think they could've saved Disney Channel from their bad reputation for making generic sitcoms. I miss them and Aaron Stone, Lab Rats Elite Force, Motorcity, Tron Uprising and Spectacular Spiderman are overdue for a proper finale. Also: Jayniac made me ship Andre and Jade more.

[@lucianolazcotaylorsversion3642]

And Kickin it

[@Rosebud_XD]

I wish that there could’ve released more seasons of elite force it just felt so incompleted I used to love that show

[@Zvwry]

I ship everyone with Andre

[@CartoonimeJ]

don't forget pair of kings! tbh mason and mikayla makoola CARRIED that show.

[@thetrashcan5558]

Hearing Cait talk about House of Anubis is the best thing I've ever seen.

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

“I’m chase from zoey 101 and you are watching disney channel”. Laughing my butt off.

[@lilyglezz3530]

Fabian and Nina are probably my favorite ship from House of Anubis. I'm just a sucker for geeks in love😅

[@quincyquiz]

I'm more of a Jerome and Mara person (because I just ignore season three so to me there was no cheating lol) but also that Patricia impression was IMMACULATE

[@CrystalChrysanthemum]

Same… honestly joy annoys me too much and honestly Mara and Jerome were way cuter

[@EE-kz7re]

Season 3 simply does not exist

[@abbyrose6660]

literally my thoughts exactly

[@yan4216]

the "im not british" at 16:22 im dying thats so funny

[@Angryoyster]

Hello I’m Chase from Zoey 101 and you’re watching Disney channel NICKELODEON 😂

[@allysonbua]

I MISSED YOUR SIBLINGS ACTING SKILLS

[@turnipcrazy4602]

A show I'd love you to talk about is Dance Academy. There as so many good ships that I love. Anyone else agree?

[@sxlvxrrr]

yesss I love dance academy, but I never hear anyone talk about it

[@brynnsmom20]

Jade and tori could've made a good couple

[@drfifteenmd7561]

I definitely agree. 😓

[@margotheslideshowgal]

Was waiting for Ned and Moze the whole time. Where do they rank? They're definitely my favorite!

[@gracieb3845]

I'd love to see you do some videos like this but with the disney channel- esque kinda shows on netflix, like alexa and katie, julie and the phantoms, free reign, etc.

[@juliav5312]

i love that your siblings are just so down to do this with you, it makes your videos all the more iconic

[@yarainpixels]

JORI MADE IT I KNOW THATS RIGHT

[@drfifteenmd7561]

Iconic and amazing ship!

[@windypsychoweather6197]

Hey Caitlin I literally could not agree more! Video idea: You know when you watch like a movie series and rank the movies? I was thinking you could watch the spy kids movies and rank them. I think it would be interesting to see your opinions 😊

[@kennedytobias2745]

"Wait I'm not British" To be honest you guys should always act the scenes out

[@MarioKingdom04]

What was the main reason you disliked House of Anubis Season 3? Cause for me it was because Nina left and also Amber, and Sibuna did not feel the same in Season 3

[@abbyrose6660]

right. they shouldve just ended it at season 2 if nina wasnt gonna be in there instead of adding characters like willow and kt while we also lost amber.

[@CrayCrayJay]

*THE SCENE REMAKES HAVE ME CRYING*

[@mothmanlol6263]

The “and I can call you a cab back to the airport” was actually really surprisingly on point

[@demitwice]

your siblings and jackie should be on broadway their talent is unmatched

[@niceldiquit820]

I mean I feel like Chase and Zoey was everybody’s ship growing up, still remember the episode where they all went to Logan’s dad’s beach house for spring break and Chase sends that text message to Zoey after their fight, ugh and the ending when her tech mate falls into the pool, the most tense I remember feeling when watching that episode.

[@florentinenice9146]

Another honourable mention should be Josh and Mindy (from Drake and Josh)👏🏻

[@drfifteenmd7561]

I LOVE THEIR RELATIONSHIP!

[@xatuyou8045]

I’m of the opinion that Kendall and Lucy were the better couple. And Kendall wrote btr’s best song for Lucy. (To prove a point, but it still counts in my book)

[@ninajeanspears]

i liked them better too but i also think i just had a crush on lucy

[@courtneyrice872]

Literally never heard of Bella and the Bulldogs but I do love Matt Cornett so I feel like I need to watch it now…

[@Lucaya4Life]

I heard of it but never knew he was in it. I really wanna watch it now too. 😂

[@rubeuspotter719]

Let me guess, HSMTMTS?

[@courtneyrice872]

@@rubeuspotter719 That a problem?

[@rubeuspotter719]

@@courtneyrice872 no. I was just asking if that's why you like him

[@courtneyrice872]

@@rubeuspotter719 Sorry the way you asked just seemed confrontational. But yeah, it's the only other thing I've seen him in

[@Knk6700]

Absolutely love Quinn and Logan (aka Quogan). Also since I was a big iCarly fan growing up and it was one of the shows I stuck with throughout its run, I am a big Seddie (Sam and Freddie) shipper. I’m just a big fan of the like enemies to friends to dating trope. It’s one of my favorite (possibly why I also have found a new love for Sokka/Zuko (Zukka) from Avatar). But really I grew up on Nick so I have a lot of different ships from those shows.

[@abigailallen8929]

Favorite ship would have to be Jemma from Every Witch Way it's probably one of my favorite shows of all time let alone Nickelodeon. So, if you have given it a try you definitely should But I do believe it is based off Grachi, though I've never seen it. It's a love triangle/square and Jax doesn't come in until season 2 which is when the show gets really good and he's definitely worth going through season 1 to get through.

[@abigailallen8929]

Although from E.W.W. Jandi is an excellent non-canon ship, just saying.

[@Heyitsann]

Hands down my OTP is Peddie. Patricia and Eddie are the ship I first fell in love with and are one of the only ship that get me so excited like I did the first time lol next for Nick/Disney since it’s the same channel is Frank and Thea, the only ship that got me just as excited as Peddie for a long time. For Nick that was not mentioned is Emma and Jax

[@neivilde.1242]

yes the siblings are back, we love to see it! anyway, i like that arc and ciara were never a couple, i was like finally a show with no romance focused on friendship. i mean sage and buttercup were in love but that's besides the point

[@lucifia5220]

I’ve been so excited for this episode ever since you said that you were getting the family on twitter! Amazing acting skills as always!!

[@thurdays_angel6442]

I loved Jax & Emma from Every Witch Way. I was invested when I watched the show when I was younger 😅😅

[@MicahangeloYT]

Family acting is top tier 🔥🔥🔥

[@LGsBarbieGirl411]

It looks like you were all having so much fun with the reenactments and I love it! Kinda glad this video is my first exposure to the majority of these scenes. XD

[@mayulee1798]

Your guys' acting is just GOD TIER

[@keeleyplayzz9719]

Who else died laughing when John was on the screen!?

[@ernekecamacho4604]

I'm so glad you decided to do this video!!! I can't wait to see more nick content.

[@catherinemary2098]

STOP I still have the photo of when Victoria signed someone’s poster saying “Jori is on”

[@duda_teles]

I LOVED THE ACTING!!! please do more!!! sending love from brazil ❤️🇧🇷

[@misshuntress821]

Joy & Jerome MADE season three for me. They were such a surprisingly perfect fit for each other, I can’t believe I didn’t see it earlier! They are both somewhat ‘the black sheep’ of the group, they’ve made a lot of mistakes in the pursuit of love & acted selfishly. But despite their mistakes, they take responsibility, and work hard at bettering themselves, (sometimes succeeding, sometimes failing miserably lol) They have so many similarities, and they meet each other where they’re at, instead of forcing change, or expecting a perfected version of the other. Yet, they still can call each other out on their bullshit & inspire growth. Plus, on a superficial note, they’re both super attractive together (the height difference, the banter/flirting, the KISS). Help, I’ve fallen down a hole 🙃

[@frankiemustdie]

yess i love the videos with your siblings they’re always iconic 💅🏻 plus it’s nickelodeon so i already know this video will be great

[@megannoelknapp4411]

You're younger brother is definitely the star of this video...loved his acting skills! LOL

[@Laura-gi9nv]

Have you contacted Netflix to get John in a movie or what? 😂😂

[@TheRomroe]

I couldn't appear due to contract disputes

[@not_ali132]

Not the Harry Styles blanket 😂 Love it!

[@dylanoliver403]

My favorite Nickelodeon ship is probably Sammy and Elliott from The Astronauts.

[@coolcapricorn2296]

While others are talking about ATLA I wanted to mention the Nicktoon Hey Arnold. I feel like there are so many shipping opportunities with all the characters and the development they get throughout the series. I also think you might like the Harold/Rhonda ship (at least a little)

[@moobearxoxo6494]

I am obsessed with the acting in this 😂😂 you and your siblings killed it, found it so entertaining

[@kokoro7996]

My top Nick ship is Sun Hi and Linc from Make It Pop. But Jo and Kendal are a very close second.

[@jocelynd6682]

OMG MAKE IT POP!! i loved that show but it’s so underrated 😭 i loved sun hi and linc!!

[@kokoro7996]

@@jocelynd6682 It is underrated! I love it so much.

[@jessicashaw1796]

You 4 acting out the scenes was so funny and made me laugh multiple times haha😅 love the video Caitlin!!

[@nazazazzaza]

John introducing himself anyway he can into the scene is giving me life

[@cinnamongirl5484]

HANDS DOWN COULDN’T AGREE WITH YOU MORE! Love your videos!! Possibly hoping to see other video on other Nickelodeon shows and movies. My all time favorite ship from Nick is Jemma (Jax and Emma) from Every Witch Way and movie wise, (Charlie and Kadee) from Rags! Talia in the kitchen is another good one*

[@danabernice8574]

That Sam and Cat one had me dead 🤣

[@fannyhallbing5377]

Am I the only one Who waited for Ned and Moze from Neds Declassified😄💜

[@acherryproTV]

us puckentine stans gotta stick together 😌

[@tvfantatic3957]

Quinn and Logan will always be number one in my heart.

[@stacyanderson9579]

Have you thought about making silly videos with your family? This was really fun to watch and it seems like you guys had a lot of fun!

[@nancyadjirakor8033]

I love House of Anubis!!! Have you ever thought about doing a review on the seasons and the tv movie? I would love to hear why you didn't like season 3.

[@emmaswan28]

Okay but THE ACTING! So good!!

[@KHENEDITV]

Dana and logan were totally supposed to be a couple on Zoey 101 if they didn't kick her off the show after season 1 that would have been a great couple

[@mouseavery2028]

18:59 My mom (who was doing her own thing up until this point) - Mindy's a guy right?

[@pixyvillain8588]

I really love your list! I was hoping to see how to rock but I’m so happy with your list

[@kairenatus]

This was amazing! I think this is one of my favorite videos on KZbin now ♥️♥️ You’re all adorable

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

I am so happy that someone loves quinn and logan just as much as I do. I did not think they were completely from left field because they gradually became friends so it made sense that he would comfort her, in my opinion. Do not at me. Had enough youtube arguments today. Need a small break from one. I love the secret relationships for some odd reason as long as when they go public makes sense and that there is not too much drama surrounding it. If the show ran longer, I am sure their public outing will lead to a more mature relationship. Also, logan, the player, the jerk (at first) treated her better than mark. Just saying.

[@jordisg683]

I LOVE Quinn and Logan and I thought they were so underrated!!!

[@katea4441]

I LOVE ur siblings acting! It was so fun to watch!!

[@vivianthai6990]

Your siblings efforts and acting skills were much appreciated 😩🤌✨

[@sakunaruful]

The scene renactments continue to be amusing to watch and hilarious.

[@dancingintheraine]

i don’t know if you have but please watch how to rock!!! it’s so underrated

[@DIYDIYA-ic5uf]

Have you watched the Nickelodeon show The Thundermans because I loved the show, and it had one of my favorite ships between Max and Allison, they also had great friendships and awesome sibling bonds. Also, I didn’t think that anyone shipped Bella and Zach as much as I do cuz after my friends watched the show they thought I was crazy, but I am happy that other people ship Zach and Bella.

[@nic.2175]

just by reading the title i know i'm going to love this video

[@bellaenpointe]

Kendall & Jo were ROBBED

[@zaicherry1092]

I was waiting for Jax and emma from every witch way.

[@MM-vz7fu]

Good vid ❤️. Do “my subscribers top Nickelodeon ships” next!

[@annalewis1088]

Kaitlyn it was so funny to see ur brother in the video when he would act funny during it which was so freaking funny 🤣

[@barbararamirez8297]

You should try mis 15 I was obsessed with that telenovela as a kid, also rebelde and casi Ángeles

[@nieve6179]

i think chenry should have at least gotten an honorable mention like i know they aren't canon but still😭😭

[@endgame7856]

Another reason I love Puckettine is in the episode where Sam was going to jump the tuna. When Cat crashed the motorcycle, and Freddie and Robbie fell in the tank, Sam immediately ran to Cat to make sure her girlfriend was okay, instead of the guy she was supposedly in love with.

[@caitlinmckillop]

^^^ this!

[@sarahtann4832]

omg your brothers "well they're my new ones" response cracks me up. But yes tori and jade would've been a power couple and take a hint is the best song/performance ever the background acting for bella and the bulldogs is amazing its so cute how you're all trying not to laugh

[@AbigailMartinez]

My favorite ship is Prince Zuko and Me ❤ Not mei, ME. ME PEOPLE. Zuko has always been my #1 childhood cartoon crush

[@galaxyskeleton]

Mood😂

[@drfifteenmd7561]

I can’t, same!!!!

[@DanielOrme]

Your friends and family are the best!

[@rexbesong2157]

Girl where is the big city big dreams movie review😂😭

[@iLovePaulWesley1864]

The only Nickelodeon show I watch is House of Anubis. My favourite ship is Eddie and KT; whenever I want to rewatch the show, I always rewatch season three because I love their friendship. I love that from the moment they met, Eddie was willing to sacrifice his life for KT and her quest; he was always on her team. I love them. I will say that in season two, I did love Eddie and Patricia. Maybe I don't watch haters to lovers shows but, they did it better than any show I have ever seen before. I have an issue with Jerome and Joy. The entire cheating storyline made no sense. Jerome was always from the pilot episode in love with Mara, then he finally gets her and then cheats on her with Willow? WHAT! Then they tried to make Jerome and Joy this "hater to lovers" story when they do not have the history for that; Joy was barely in season one, and then in season two, they barely spoke. Jerome and Joy are stunning together, but they made absolutely zero sense.