My Top 10 Reasons for Loving RuneScape 3

Fans have long been divided on which version of RuneScape is better, and as a long time player of RuneScape myself, I also have an opinion. I personally (somewhat controversially) prefer RS3 even though I enjoy and play both games. Hear me out and find out my personal reasons for preferring RuneScape 3.
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[@marcusisahooper]

If you disagree with me, I hope we can still be friends! 🥰 Leave a like if you want to see more videos like this! Did you like my points? Do you prefer RS3 or OSRS?

[@andrewhenderson6544]

You shouldn't try to add humor to "soften the blow", you already know it's impossible to please everyone so don't even try.

[@marcusisahooper]

@@andrewhenderson6544 I know I can’t please everyone, but my point is we should all be able to get along even if we disagree!

[@andrewhenderson6544]

@@marcusisahooper That will never happen either. People, especially gamers with their weak egos will never truly like someone who disagrees with their video game related opinion. I only bring this up as you put such an emphasis on it in this video, if you were said "Here's my opinion, take it how you will" you try extremely hard to appease. You don't have to do that man, just be yourself and people will gravitate towards a genuine person.

[@CaseyHudson]

I'm a RS3 guy myself, Loved this vid, made me laugh and had great info. 10/10

[@olafgodbless2406]

@@CaseyHudson I am not and I still liked the Vid!

[@yadigthat8806]

While I'm personally not as keen to RS3 and I'm more of an osrs player, really appreciate your perspective for RS3. Also, you're a great youtuber. Maybe I'll give RS3 more of a chance.

[@RumpelGameSkin]

I'm a maxed rs3 main of like 18 years and started on OS when GIM came out with friends and the toolbelt really is the biggest small thing. Doing Tempoross is honestly a great show of difference, specifically the way it just deletes items from your inventory(ropes/buckets, even though you can get more from the boat), something that RS3 would never even consider these days even in the hardest of endgame content. It ultimately boils down to OS purists wanting the game to be the same(a very slow slog), which is why I'm surprised there's even polls going on about new skills considering how badly warding got shot down. Ultimately they are just different games at this point and people should just stop trying to compare them. Also by far the biggest negative in RS3 right now is the economy.

[@AstroPatel]

Why is Grico 1.1b 😞. I'd have to sell my whole bank and all of my gear just to get Grico. Economy definitely one of the problems, but everything else is so fun!

[@mafas1480]

i was osrs guy for soo long, decided to give rs3 a try and got hooked :D 2b xp on main right now and just created an ironman. rs3 has stuff that i dont really like (dungeoneering for example) but i love basicly everything else about the game. a lot of osrs players talk about microtransaction and treasure hunter but i dont think thats a big deal anymore, yeah its cash grab but they need to make money to give us new content, its not like people are still rushing for highscores and microtransactions would effect that in any way considering none of them work on newly released skills for a while and tbh i kinda liked getting lamps from treasure hunter so i could skip parts of the game i hated and thats why the only way i trained dungeoneering on my main was with lamps :D

[@marcusisahooper]

I hate dungeoneering too! I try to get all my other skills up then use tears of guthix to bring up dungeoneering! 😂

[@mafas1480]

@@marcusisahooper I'm suffering on ironman with dungeoneering right now😅

[@piggyplague8755]

It took a while for me to hop on this game because of how many osrs players bashed it. I playes osrs first because of it, but you managed to convince me to play what i origonally wanted to play and im having so much fun now. I shouldnt let outside influence decide what i enjoy, but when I hear so many negative things consistently it does change the way I view the game. Thank you for making this video, youre so talented!

[@marcusisahooper]

I love to hear that! Ultimately, I just love having fun playing Runescape, and I’m so glad you’ve found the version you like most! Thank you for saying that! I appreciate it! 😊👍🏻

[@m3602pac]

I grew up on OSRS and I absolutely love RS3. I get looked at like I kick puppies when I say that

[@TMW_ShadowStarr]

The M&S rework is what brought me back after a hiatus. Haven't taken a long break again since lol

[@PharaohofAtlantis]

Both games do things better and worse than the other game. I've thought about playing OSRS A lot of times but the idea of just doing grinds again is really upsetting. I'd love to be able to raid in OSRS and it feels like I am closer to that starting over in it than in RS3 where I have 90+ is almost everything.

[@marcusisahooper]

That’s true! Both games do things well, and both games have issues! It just so happens RS3 provides a play-style I’m looking for in a game!

[@TheAwkwardGuy]

0:35 Quality of Life (Toolbelt) 1:28 Loadstone Network 2:51 The Quests 4:17 More AFK Training Methods 5:12 The Mining Rework 5:51 The Smithing Rework 6:38 Extra Content 8:16 The Graphics 9:10 The Combat 10:36 Easier to Just Jump In I love all these points and agree with all of them lol. Great editting on the vids too! Keep it up and you'll get a golden gnome. Ok the last point was a lil off but I do agree that everything does take more time to do in OSRS with all of its inconveniences. The PvM Hub (War's Retreat) in RS3 for example, makes it really easy to boss without caring about teleports and the like. Imagine just teleporting to Vorkath instead of figuring out whether you want to grind to an Elite Fremmenik Diary to teleport, or use a player owned house teleport (or a fairy ring if you don't have both).

[@marcusisahooper]

The experiment is a little skewed due to my RS3 game knowledge, but since this video is focused on my personal feelings and experiences, I thought the results were fair! Thanks for the feedback! I’m going to try to keep the content rolling! 😊👍🏻

[@JackofallWades]

​@Marcus Hooper To make it fair you should've went to the GE for the seeds for RS3 as well to show a fair comparison. Granted it would've maybe added a minute to the timer but still.

[@marcusisahooper]

@@JackofallWades I’m actually thinking of doing the experiment again in a separate video with different parameters!

[@JackofallWades]

@@marcusisahooper Good!

[@JackofallWades]

@Marcus Hooper To clarify I mainly play RS3 and just started OldSchool. But it was nice to see the comparison.

[@emmanuelramirez900]

Dude i love the edits lol definí something missing among the rs3 KZbin content

[@BeardedGuard]

I must say, this is one of the better videos showing a player who has played osrs for a while and had never seen any player show me Exactly what RS3 has to show! editings are funny and on point! keep it up!

[@regolith8173]

I agree with you in many ways. Specially the slower walking pace in OSRS is really frustrating

[@asaholloway9139]

Gather the pitchforks gentlemen! I've been considering trying rs3 but i'll always love osrs lol

[@Searcad]

Osrs is basically the original Rogue game. If you wanna do something you better be ready to pay with blood, meanwhile Rs3 is a game you can actually enjoy

[@codybrown4968]

my friend that never played osrs as a kid and has only been playing 1 month could beat the potato time in rs3 on osrs, kinda bad comparison. I concede that you need to invest less time in rs3 to move across the map but things such as teleport tabs/POH/fairy ring network are very comparable, and there is something to be said about feeling good about progression and unlocking these things. I would vote yes to the tool belt coming into OSRS. I would be interested in seeing an end game bossing combat comparison, as both games have dogshit simply combat outside of that, and I have little knowledge on bossing in rs3

[@marcusisahooper]

The farming experiment was a bit skewed since I have more experience with RS3! I’m considering doing the experiment again in a separate video with different parameters!

[@georgeweber9396]

agree with you 100% but damn some of those edits had me rolling, defo earned that sub

[@PrestonGraff]

I 100% agree, I think if more osrs players gave rs3 an actual fighting chance they'd like the game a lot more too. Rs3 just developed a negative and mostly undeserving stereotype. The average osrs player can't name 1 ability in rs3 and doesn't know anything about the game, they just played it for 20 minutes like 8 years ago and assumed it sucks cuz 2 of their friends said it did, and then quickly gave up. Modern mmo's are complex and take a while to get the perfect interface and ability rotations. You just gotta treat rs3 like that and it will pay off. Amazing game with tons of unique content and quests. I play both but rs3 takes the cake. Also it's super ironic that OSRS players don't want a lodestone network, but they have like 30 minigame teleports, they don't want toolbelts & faster paced gameplay, but they have hundreds of runelite plugins, and they don't want EOC but legacy mode & revolution is still a thing to this day. I have the quest cape on both versions of the game, and it blows my mind that instead of the ability to rest, have musicians, etc. OSRS players would literally rather buy a bunch of stamina potions for no reason. I wish I could "rest" on osrs so badly.

[@TheDarkbogiTV]

Some people just enjoy Oldschool mmos. They are both just different games, RS3 is filled with QoL and p2w mechanics like newer mmos and OSRS is filled with clunky game mechanics like old mmos.

[@PrestonGraff]

@@TheDarkbogiTV rs3 has tons of clunky mechanics haha it still uses the runetick system, & Ironman mode on rs3 takes away all that p2w stuff.

[@NoLeather]

Great video! I think almost every runescape player has a different opinion on even the smallest pieces of content so you'll never please everyone 😂

[@sideshowirl6779]

Im a mid level player in osrs with adhd. I real world traded and grinded my construction to 99 to fix the travel issue, but I get thst not everyone has that available to them. Osrs is way more awesome once you have transport and a home base to reset stuff like stamina

[@malachysmusiclab3482]

Fair points all round. Honestly people shouldn't care what someone else's preference is. The only thing I can say is that your last point was a tad exaggerated for the points sake.

[@marcusisahooper]

It was a bit skewed due to my greater RS3 knowledge! I’m considering making a follow up video where I try the experiment again!

[@malachysmusiclab3482]

@@marcusisahooper fair play! I would be so lost in rs3 these days trying to do anything! I meant nothing ill from my comment btw, it was a great video :))

[@Shlippi]

Nice video. I first started playing this game in 2005, and it has definitely come a long way. Some things I wish were better/different (PoH and mini games for example), but after some growing pains, I like the new combat system I love the new(ish) areas, and I love the QoL improvements.

[@kaladongstormguy]

I think the "jumping in" comparison isn't completely fair (you know where to buy seeds in RS3 and already had some, etc.), but the toolbelt thing does seem like a really nice QoL feature. I always have my tool leprechaun stocked though, so farm runs are usually pretty quick to jump into for me. I also always have teleport runes ready to go. I feel like if we raced, you'd still win in RS3, but the difference wouldn't be as drastic as in the video. No hate though, lol, I generally don't play OSRS unless I'm ready to commit an hour or two. I totally get where you're coming from. I don't know if I'll ever make the switch to RS3, but I enjoyed the video regardless.

[@marcusisahooper]

You’re right, it was a bit skewed! Part of that was my “no prep” idea which bit me in the butt in OS, but since this video is focused on my personal experiences I figured the results were fair!

[@janiokas]

its totaly bs for example in rs3 i want to woodcut i need urns i need juju pots i need seren spells with pray bonus i need porters also summoning pet for bonus : osrs take axe and woodcut

[@zeldapro18]

@@janiokas You don't NEED any of that. You could say you NEED the Crystal or Infernal axe and recharge them, elven signet(which also needs charging), tick manipulation, Preserve forgotten prayer and that's only the stuff I seen on the wiki.

[@SultansCurse]

@@janiokas bro no you can literally go woodcut. im chilling at ivies 92 wc and crystal hatchet. Everything from os is still set in the game besides the new content post-07. quit acting like you cant be as inefficient as you would like. just because quality of life improvements are added, doesnt mean you have to use them. ignorant as that statement may be considering its an mmo that started with atrocious xp rates. in fact its a little easier to do what you want to do on rs3 because the hatchet on your toolbelt so you dont even have to get the crystal hatchet out. what do you really dislike about the game, or is it just misinformed opinion?

[@janiokas]

@@SultansCurse i have max cape on rs3 all i want to say that there is so much stuff to make leveling in rs3 more efficient that i just dont want to do it without any of it

[@polraudiozion1156]

I have been playing since classic and i agree with every one of these.

[@Blueniter]

Got maxed account on both games and what I've learned RuneScape 3 - Playing this game for the story and the atmosphere. OSRS - Playing the game for harder goals and if I want to grind for longer. For casual players I would recommend RuneScape 3 all the time and for the more Hardcore RuneScape players go for OSRS. But remember both games got It's own pros and cons.

[@marcusisahooper]

100% agree!

[@pualplup]

As someone who is completionist on rs3 and almost maxed on osrs and done all the bosses in both games, I've always thought the argument for which runescape is better is quite silly. I like both for different reasons and at the end of the day we are all adults. I believe each side could really learn from the other and comparing which is better is counter-productive. We are all runescape players at the end of the day and we should accept the differences of both sides and just play the damn game.

[@marcusisahooper]

I agree! I think we can all just get along and agree that RuneScape is a fun game! However, I think a friendly/good natured discussion about our preferences is never counterproductive! It’s good to learn about other people and see things from their perspective! It’s when the discussion becomes negative/hateful or we start to claim our opinion is objective truth that it becomes counterproductive!

[@arxike8297]

Id say OSRS is far more easyer to get into than rs3 when i started RS3 there was so much everything was confusing,aswell as osrs was just simple and a lot easy to get into

[@tonynguyen8166]

Yeah u can argue rs3 ui is a pain, tho when it comes to pvm rs3 just feels so much better than osrs. Guardian of the rift activity to this day isn't an instance idk why but it is a pain

[@BChuckVT]

As an OSRS only player, I always say that RS3 isn't a bad game at all, it's just a DIFFERENT game. It isn't the game I grew up with as a kid, and it no longer has that brutal grind that I oh so crave anymore. And frankly, that's totally okay. Cause I'm fully aware that not everyone share's that same interest. I'm just glad the RS3 hate in the Old School community has died down...at least a little. I've seen plenty of Old School content creators try out RS3 now, and they were surprised with how much they enjoyed it. Some even switched to playing RS3 primarily for a while. I wish I could get into RS3 again, cause believe me I tried, but I love the brutal grind and lack of QoL. Hell, I play a gosh darn UIM, which is already masochistic in and of itself. Also, I really hate minigames, so another big reason why I couldn't get into RS3. Even the few that Old School has I'm not a fan of. Oh, and I have ADHD too, so don't just blame only that for your lack of interest with waiting for things XD. Most of the quests I'd have to do took 10x as long cause I was forced to walk everywhere, but I lowkey loved it. Impatience and ADHD tend to go hand in hand, but they can be mutually exclusive too.

[@marcusisahooper]

I totally understand! It sounds like you and I enjoy different aspects of gaming, but we can still agree Runescape is a great game! 😊

[@zeldapro18]

ha ha minigames died in RS3 a long, long time ago. Wish we had the minigames OSRS have that people actually play regularly. I hear about Nightmare Zone, The Gauntlet, Guardians of the Rift, Last Man Standing, etc.

[@smoldrizzo]

the OSRS masochist will be mad at this one...

[@mandrue73]

Enjoyed the video :) I am osrs ride or die, but it is nice seeing people's perspective from the other game :p From the looks of it OSRS has a steaper learning curve perhaps, or just required a bigger time commitment to get your account up and running. The farm run in osrs could have been optimized to be far faster than that, and honestly I don't know anything about rs3 so I would assume I too would struggle doing a farm run in a game that I don't know too well. I do prefer games that reward time investment. I would play rs4 if that was ever a thing (and if it was not pay to win), but I doubt I will ever play rs3 since I am already so happy with osrs.

[@marcusisahooper]

That’s fair! And I agree, the farming experiment was a bit skewed! I’m considering doing the experiment again in a separate video with different parameters!

[@crosuee]

RS3 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@Limonada_RC]

yeah that's true right now eoc it's much better than back in 2013 when it came!

[@petethescalemodeller6130]

I play both also , think a lot do , like if you do ? :)

[@calvinleon7630]

a rs3 without mtx that would be huge

[@zeldapro18]

And diminish both games. IMO OSRS wouldn't exist or get the attention it does. As a business the MTX funds both games.

[@SultansCurse]

it exists.. ironman.

[@Menace_oce]

This video was so good 😂

[@SoIThinkImAGamer]

I personally play both games but I lean more towards RS3 because I OSRS is pretty toxic in both gameplay and community wise. Don’t get me wrong both games have their flaws but RS3 just has less overall so it makes the not so fun parts of the game a little more bearable.😅

[@marcusisahooper]

It seems like a lot of OS fans are very passionate which makes sense considering a lot of them quit RS3 originally because they felt it strayed too far!

[@acarid7618]

It’s gonna run fire in the commentary section xD I preffer rs3

[@shotgunbadger]

As someone who's brand new to both games I really agree with this. RS3 is really fun and a lot easier to actually get to the fun in, but I do enjoy ORS too

[@ohhcikgu]

RS3 need quest helper

[@marcusisahooper]

Absolutely!

[@sithisrants4154]

Sorry, but I agree completely with every part of this video.

[@Vegeta101691]

Guess I’m that guy that sees them as drastically different games and enjoys them both. 😂

[@TheOnlyeX]

Played since 07 and agree with all your points and oh man, all the ADHD comments, yeah, thats me too, got diagnosed on my late twenties and that really explained the way I played RS.

[@steelviper7724]

Great video, but I have mixed feelings on your points. I played RS2 as a kid, and then got back into RS3 in 2015 and played until maybe 2021ish and nearly maxed (was just a few levels in arch and some combat skills off max cape), but then switched over to osrs. I don't disagree with the stuff you're saying, but I think I feel inversely about them. Like, with the toolbelt, you have all your tools, but I felt compelled by the exp efficiency powercreep that when I skill I need to be using my augmented pickaxe and accumulators and urns and incense and a familiar and blah blah blah there's so many MORE things you need to stack on top of just your tool that you don't in osrs. With lodestones, I would end up relying on them constantly rather than just teleporting around with spells. That sometimes made things take way longer as a result since the animation was so much longer (quick teles were way too expensive for me to justify) and I had to run further, and I definitely enjoyed the feeling of progression of unlocking transport methods in osrs. I get that that's contradictory to what I said about feeling compelled into efficiency, but it just ended up being how I played and it wasn't satisfying. The variety of training methods is good too, though I do like the simplicity of osrs and having my options limited some in a choice paralysis type way. When I logged into rs3 there was simply so much to do, whereas in osrs I have a lot easier time picking something out. Mining and smithing rework were great, wouldn't change anything about them, same with the quests and variety of content. Those are definitely one ups that rs3 has over osrs. The graphics are wholly subjective so I get why you'd like them more. I've never been a huge fan of osrs's artstyle, but i do like how much more coherent and cohesive it is compared to rs3. Going from Karamja to Burthorpe to GWD2 is a shock, and I don't think they're good shocks. Rs3 just has been around so much longer that it doesn't feel like it has any concrete visual identity, and when you slap on the cosmetics and particlescape in so many peoples outfits its just blech to me. EOC I also feel totally mixed on. I do think RS3's combat system has significantly vast depth to it compared to osrs's, but I'm just really bad at it. I was always bad at it, and I never felt like I could be good at it. I could barely handle firing off defensives at boss mechanics and most pvm felt totally inaccessible to me, which is why I never ended up maxing. Gearing was a chore and I never felt like I was doing it right. In osrs, I'm still a ways off from most bossing, but when I look at people doing it, it actually feels like something I CAN do, which is nice. As others said, the "jump in" point was more of just an issue of game knowledge, which both games struggle from for new players just because they've got so much content in them. Overall though, it's all subjective. I'd like to go back to rs3 some time and max on one dxp or another since I was so close, but I dunno when I'll ever get around to it. What's important is that people play the one they find the most fun, and not just because they bought into tribalism or feel too great a sunk cost to quit.

[@marcusisahooper]

I totally get where you’re coming from on all points! Like you said, I think you and I might value different playstyles, but that’s okay! I love that we can both agree RuneScape is a really fun game! I do want to revisit my last point in a separate video and try the experiment again with different parameters!

[@therebelofchaos1674]

I feel like the farming example was a little drastic for jumping in. You coulda just said "maybe I don't have tools stored, I should probably buy them at the GE while I'm still here" and cut down a lot on time, and on top of that, while seeds maybe aren't THAT common a drop in osrs, they're still fairly common/easy to get. Plus you already had them in your bank on RS3. Other than this point which I felt a little drastic/dishonest with the poor example used, this is definitely an interesting video. I prefer OSRS, but I don't hate RS3. The one thing that makes me try out/play RS3 from time to time is that membership is shared across the same character in RS3 and OSRS. If I had to pay separate membership for both, I wouldn't touch RS3 at all. That, and IM doesn't completely ruin the game with MTXs like mainscaping in 3 does.

[@marcusisahooper]

My mistake was framing the farming experiment as a general experience and not just a personal one! Not everyone has the lack of OSRS knowledge I have, AND my confusion about this account already having tools did add more time to the experiment! That being said, the potato seeds in RS3 were a drop from trolls which are an enemy you’re pushed to fight right at the start of your account, the farming tutor is someone you’re introduced to in one of the early tutorials, loadstones are explained to all new players, and the tool belt allows me to farm without wondering if I have the tools or not! All of the information that could have made my OSRS time faster, the game itself didn’t tell me! So my point really was that, for me, RS3 is better for faster, more casual gameplay that doesn’t require the same level of outside research to do! But I wasn’t clear about that and framed the experiment as everyone’s experience which isn’t true!

[@BuzzzdLightyear]

Aint got time for OSRS. RS3 scratches that same itch without as much of a time investment.

[@vvBoost]

This is extra, but you could have used the free seeds on the patch there in Taverly, purchased more for Draynor patch, and it would have only taken 7 more clicks or 15 seconds lol 😅

[@Mattaruu95]

Finally I don't have to feel guilty for loving AFK...but the soul crushing realization that I'm just making numbers bigger is definitely still here. D:

[@sir_dinkle]

Quest helper, friends, and lack of MTX has me playing OSRS now. I'm maxed on RS3, and if I were to play either game super serious I'd probably go back to RS3 and do an ironman. I just don't have the time like I use too for syncing that type of time into a game anymore. And despite what a lot of people say OSRS has its moments for easyscape. The game is really polished I will give it that.

[@marcusisahooper]

I definitely wish we had quest helper in RS3! Or a third party client like Runelite!

[@OrdinarySense]

In the future if you are going to do a "comparison" I would highly recommended doing the same thing in both games... either on fresh accounts or without using the bonuses you have unlocked through hours of gameplay on rs3. You used things you unlocked in rs3 but did not use the bonuses that could have been used in OSRS. Also, if you lack any game knowledge at all in one game... then using your vast game knowledge of another makes no sense. Its a completely lopsided comparison. also another place that your 0% game knowledge for osrs killed the comparison is Runelite. Runelite osrs is a hybrid of both games. It allows for tons of QOL features that RS3 doesnt even have, while not having the base game improvements that RS3 has made over the years. Runelite can also be launched directly for the osrs website. I agree with some of your points and can respect that overall that you enjoy playing one game over the other... but if you choose to do direct "comparisons" in future videos... either take the time to gain the game knowledge in osrs to make them actually comparable or simply state beforehand that you know absolutely 0% about that version of the game. seriously though.. you go to the bank but you dont teleport to varrock or the direct GE teleport? You know exactly where seeds are in RS3 but waste time looking it up in osrs. You cant take the time to learn simple shortcuts for the menus in osrs... or y'know, have the tools sitting in your bank like anyone would as you clearly werent starting fresh on either game... or not being extremely cheap and paying a few hundred coins for them in the GE. you use already unlocked lodestones in Rs3 but cannot spent 13k on a charged glory to teleport to the same spot in osrs. and saying oh i have potato seeds in my bank because they are such a common drop. Dude, they are just as common in osrs but barely anyone would pick them up because they are worth 1gp in osrs. meanwhile they are worth hundreds in rs3. it provides nothing to your comparison. overall, it started out as a solid idea and interesting to see an RS3 players point of view... but it fell off a cliff when you decided to make a completely biased and lopsided comparison for seemingly no reason.

[@marcusisahooper]

It is definitely lopsided, and was meant to illustrate my personal frustrations with the game (as the whole video is from my perspective)! I made the mistake of framing the experiment poorly to make it seem like this would be a similar experience to everyone, and I wish I had done it differently! That being said, the experiment was purposely “no-prep” to simulate me casually logging in to farm! That meant not collecting tools beforehand in OS! Yes I already had my tools in RS3, but that was part of my point! Everything I used in RS3 is accessible to and even explained to new players! The loadstone network is available to everyone (you just have to walk to them to activate them), and the farming tutor is in the new player area and is introduced to new players through pathfinder! Potato seeds are a very common drop from trolls which are one of the first enemies the game makes you fight in the new player area! The only thing I used that new players probably wouldn’t have is quick teleports, but that might have saved me two minutes! And again, my experiment was meant to simulate a casual player not necessarily a new player, but my point is that everything I used is very common and shown to players from the beginning! Also, part of my point is that OS doesn’t tell you about any of the methods you just mentioned, but RS3 shows you all the methods I used (except quick teleports)! Again, I take responsibility for framing the the experiment incorrectly and making it seem like I was arguing my experience in OS would be the same for everyone! However, I don’t think it was quite as unfair as you say!

[@OrdinarySense]

@@marcusisahooper I will openly admit that rs3 is much more "seemingly" new player friendly and teaches you more directly within the game itself... but it is extremely front loaded and easy to forget everything. I know this because i played it with a buddy and we went through all the learning stuff but a week later he remembered nothing. It holds your hand almost too much, draws a line on the ground and tells you exactly what to do. OSRS however doesnt hold your hand at all and almost anything useful in the game requires more investment from you.. using the wiki, streams, videos, or asking people in the world. I could 100% see this causing more people to quit then those who try Rs3, but the players who stay are more engaged and learn quickly how to find really good info on anything they might be curious about. also it quite funny that If you used basic OSRS game knowledge... you would use a glory to go to draynor, pick pocket the farming cape guy for a few seeds... and then go 10 steps from the patch you went to and purchase the tools from the farming shop LOL all a player would have to do is open the map :P The fact is, runescape in general has hurdles for players getting invested. both versions. However, after you have played either a little bit you can very easily get to any activity you are interested in. On the flip side, without game knowledge in either it would take ages to just start farming. with an equal amount of game knowledge in both, you could randomly do almost any activity in a reasonably same amount of time.

[@marcusisahooper]

My game knowledge in both games definitely skewed the experiment for sure! I’m considering doing the experiment again in a separate video with different parameters!

[@OrdinarySense]

@@marcusisahooper speaking as an OSRS player who is often curious about RS3 stuff.. just to watch, not really to play much... i will say that making videos comparing the 2 or trying to complete a certain goal in each game and then talking about the differences would be something i would gladly watch while grinding. could be a cool area to explore for videos. best of luck with future videos man

[@marcusisahooper]

Thank you! And I’ll definitely take your critique to heart!

[@vvBoost]

Realistically, rs3 is a better bc there's less time waste. You have to really love wasting time to play osrs in 23'

[@SultansCurse]

this is probably my biggest take. plus smack combat vs abilities, ill take abilities everyday.

[@JacobLyfts]

great vid, earned a sub ❤

[@JackofallWades]

Ironically enough, I just started OSRS form RS3 since I am almost 200m all. I wanted to prep a second account and decided to give OS a shot.

[@AeroAngle]

who else just discovered skybox feature?????????????????????????????

[@marcusisahooper]

I just discovered it last year!

[@JungleKluya]

I love the look of RS3 but all the MTX and the weird combat drove me away. If I wanted to play a game with an action bar combat system then there are better ones imo. Fun though watch cheers mate!

[@gijsdevisser4226]

nobody actually uses the action bar combat in RS3, you use revolution which makes it automated :P also the MTX is bad true, but most people just ignore it. Fair opinion though, OSRS is a fun game aswell for sure :)

[@painnmisery2582]

@@gijsdevisser4226 end game pvmers use it, but yea usually low end pvm you use revo for basics because its easier. thresholds/ults just depend on what your doing. the people pushing zammy enrage for example use full manual. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWannGWlYsaHmNE (you can tell because theres no yellow highlight on the action bar)

[@mandrue73]

The better solution to EOC would have been lunching rs3 as a separate game imo. Its water under the bridge now because OSRS rules! but I found it very jarring at the time that they changed the game so drastically without anyone's consent. I already played WoW alongside Rs2, and to me Runescape just felt like a much less fleshed out wow so I dropped the knock off (Rs) and went with the real thing. If Rs3 was a separate game they could have changed more to differentiate it from rs2, and it would have actually been hype exploring the new game. It just felt weird having 100+ combat and nearly 2k total level when the game felt so unfamiliar with EOC.

[@marcusisahooper]

I think that would have been a great idea! I’m pretty sure that’s what they did when they released RS2! I think they kept RuneScape classic up for a while to let people get used to RS2! I could be wrong as I definitely wasn’t playing yet at that point! 😂

[@mandrue73]

@@marcusisahooper you’re not wrong :D I never played Classic myself but I do remember when they announced the servers would be shutting down. Rs2 was doing really well, and it did not seem like a big deal at the time :) I would imagine making a separate game for rs3 would have taken much more of an investment. None the less I think that would be a good thing as they’d have spent more time for a better product anyways. The launch of a new game is much more exciting for a player than what felt like at the time a hijacking of a game they already enjoy. Haha but yah. Water under the bridge! At least we have these 2 versions of the game now! Fingers crossed that they someday will announce an rs4 starting completely from scratch 🙏

[@MrJancisLv]

You didn't touch the one major turn down for a lot of players, interface. The last bit where you compare which is actually easier to get into. Most players won't even get to point where they want to try the farming skill because of getting lost in maze of maneuvering interface. I play both rs3 and osrs so don't get me wrong both are nice games and offer something different. Rs3 has a lot to improve, combat readability is another thing that is so bad. Types of damage like soft typless. hard typless. hard instakill, soft instakill, now we are starting to see that some defensives don't even block certain attacks fully so you can't avoid them entirely like most other bosses. When going blind into pvm enounter, you're expected to react to attacks within 3 to 4 game ticks. So unless you have memorised the full boss rotation you're very unlikely to deal with the mechanics. For players learning pvm its mostly about getting muscle memory down to pefection and less about the "combat knowledge". It makes the game feels so clucky and unresposnive. Rs3 seems to be heavely based around the combat system. And for that they really are doing a shoddie job.

[@marcusisahooper]

I haven’t done a ton of bossing so I can’t speak on that, but I’ll take your word for it! I didn’t mention the UI because it wasn’t in my “top ten favorite things,” but it can be really overwhelming! Though I do love how it’s customizable!

[@rafaeldeabreu5515]

I wish osrs had a toolbelt.

[@DarthChosen]

i too play both games but prefer rs3. mostly this is due to my clan and the people ive made friends with over the years.

[@tylerdelong123]

good stuff

[@gragrim]

😡 "how dare you not enjoy suffering with the game how I had to back in the day! Giving quality of life improvements are lame!" 🤣 people are really like this^

[@seektosilence]

Okay so I get it, if you have ADHD RS3 is for you, I can live with that =D #OSRS4LIFE

[@laranjo5999]

Take away the P2W (despite the several apologist arguments from fanboys, the P2W is obvious and clear), the cheap progression killers (double xp weekends, dummies etc.), the terrible looking MTX that compeltely kill any semblance of visual progression and many people would give it a fair try.

[@marcusisahooper]

I think it’s worth giving a fair shot now! Plenty of people don’t pay for xp (I don’t), and I don’t really care how other people got their levels! I care about how I achieved my goals, I don’t use P2W! Same thing with cosmetics! So what if you can’t tell what level someone is by looking at them? Just right click on them and you can find out! People want to look cool, and I have no problem with that! Again, I’m just not that concerned about how well other players are doing in the game! Also, playing as an Ironman would block most of the mtx if that hinders your experience!

[@honkinhonk3454]

decided to hop in and play f2p for basically the first time ever and the UI, differing menus, mechanics, and all that make the game more... hmmm anxiety inducing. Hoped on osrs and it feels positively more simple. might go back and try rs3 later though

[@marcusisahooper]

All of that can definitely be overwhelming! I have to stop RS3 from trying to over load me with info, but once you cut all that out it’s so fun! I do think they should explain a bit more about their UI to new players!

[@zeldapro18]

There are presets for the UI like Retro. You can set up all the menus you know and put them where you want and exit out of them when you don't need/want them.

[@kylebeckman4945]

I think the point made for “jumping in” was fine, but it’s not a fair comparison. Your game knowledge of rs3 helped a lot to save time, most of the extra osrs time was spent backtracking because your game knowledge wasnt as strong

[@marcusisahooper]

It was definitely skewed I’ll give you that, but the farming tutor and loadstone system are all introduced to new players at the start so I think it’s fair to assume a casual player would remember them! Though I agree the time discrepancy wouldn’t be as drastic! Though the main point of the video is why I personally prefer RS3, so my personal frustrations with the experiment felt valid to my point!

[@zwazwezwa]

Sarah's farming shop bruh

[@HeavymetalTheRealOne]

i also play runescape for more than 20 years and if someone is crying that only real oldschool without upgrades is the real game mabe jagex have to remove the GE from osrs so all the guys can be happy 🤣

[@danilwerlin-xp4hd]

Osrs players are like those old uncles that stick to hand ploughs when modern technology [RS3] left them in the dust. That's why I laugh at all the osrs players seething about rs3.

[@monke12354]

Better than OSRS I'd hard disagree with but RS3 is definitely a decent game. Especially compared with all the other MMORPGs out there.

[@Frozen_Hope]

Got to 1500 ish total in osrs before I realised the slower gameplay doesn't suit my ADHD brain, maxed in rs3 a little over a year later

[@ChunkYony]

Lmao. Good stuff 👍🏼

[@TakeMiner]

i hate switch scape in late game rs3 and the amount of weird unlocks to play with friends in end game content

[@zeldapro18]

When I watch some OSRS content I see switches for like ToA and PvP. You gotta click each item and manually switch to other menus like prayers and spells. Both have switches but not needed in either probably. Well in some of the highest level bosses you need a shield in RS3. What weird unlocks do you NEED in RS3? I can't think of any. Any game has stuff to make your experience easier. Also RS3 doesn't have 100% protection prayers like in the old days.

[@Taigon15]

So the jumping in segment of this video is...Incorrect. Yes RS3 is still faster...But like, it shouldn't have taken you 25 minutes to actually get ready to farm. There was literally a shop right next to you which is marked on your map. Meanwhile draynor, which you walk past, also sells seeds and if you knew you needed seeds, could have picked them up along the way. Probably the worst segment of the video, had some good comparisons until that one.

[@marcusisahooper]

That’s right! I forgot you could get seeds in Draynor! Part of the experiment was “no prep” which included not looking up info like that! I was pretending I was a casual player who just decided on a whim to try farming! I feel like the results are fair because OS doesn’t make it clear where I can buy all those seeds and tools, while RS3 introduces new players to the farming tutor early on (so it’s reasonable to assume a casual player would remember him), and the tool belt includes all necessary tools! I do agree that the times are a bit skewed since I have more farming experience in RS3, but I don’t think it would have taken a casual player much more time than it took me in RS3!

[@Taigon15]

@@marcusisahooper The difference between OS and RS3 is the adventure aspect. Rs3 holds your hand, a little too forcefully at times. Where OSRS lets you explore Runescape used to be about exploration, to give you a world and let you explore, it's why a lot of OSRS players know such obscure facts about the game, they discover these random nuggets on their adventures. Casual players will often go where they want to go and discover things, ask players "How do i?" where rs3 players will go back to what they were told and not really explore as much in comparison. Both have their pro's and cons and as a person who also plays both, i often say jagex could make one of the best mmo's if they merged features from both games together. Rs3 QoL is very nice, but it IS forced upon players, where OSRS has many QoL stuff, but you have to unlock it or get it, nothing in osrs is really forced on the player.

[@zeldapro18]

@@Taigon15 not so much in combat. To this day it's not the easiest to get down perfectly. Both do have ther pros and cons, one is the slower game without the bells and whistles and the other is the original game from 20+ years ago with a faster pace and a ton of additional stuff and 5 more skills. I loved the times training Ranged on Crandor fighting Moss Giants. Love some of the storylines that still haven't been completed on RS3 like the Gnomes. But I couldn't playing the same kind of game today that I started in 2008. Could have been done better for sure but times change.

[@marcusisahooper]

I agree! RS3 is a bit hand holdy! My issue is I often need set parameters or goals in my games! I think it’s due to my ADHD! In OSRS, I get overwhelmed by the seemingly endless possibilities that I end up doing nothing! Again, I think that’s an ADHD symptom so it’s totally personal to me! @Taigon15 I agree, they’re both fantastic games with pros and cons, but RS3 happens to be easier on my brain!

[@zeldapro18]

Maybe it cuz I'm a vet but I hear RS3 new player problem is because of being overwhelmed and whatnot. What is meant by holding your hand?

[@Aura-og5bz]

i play both versions and in my opinion as of right now osrs is the better game and rs3 is not going in a good direction, also the mtx is getting pretty disgusting

[@marcusisahooper]

I want to make a follow up video sometime talking about things OSRS does better, and no MTX would be top of the list!

[@ClOwOl]

no lie you just sound lazy and you prep for things wrong lol. i played both games and rs3 is my main osrs is my ironman. i never had a issue with anything in reality its just two different games but the idea of runescape is in both. people just play what you like the experience is different in both but the grind is long in both. rs3 is faster progress though but dont get the wrong idea rs3 is faster to lvl but you be lvling skills well over a few month on all skills still. and 120 is a different story altogether. i enjoy both.

[@marcusisahooper]

I am a bit lazy 😂 but my ADHD plays a part too! I need more active stimulation so long grinds can really wear me down! And I don’t know as much about farming in OSRS so that did skew my experiment!

[@GotNoKarma]

No PKing....

[@marcusisahooper]

It’s a solid point! I wish there was a bigger RS3 PKing scene! It sure makes for easier wildly skilling though! 😂

[@SultansCurse]

some people prefer it that way. there are still servers for it im pretty sure.

[@yoga4u283]

eoc was a dealbreaker this is like wow, But if you like rs3 still respect that you are playing what you like

[@razukas1]

But rs3 is much more p2w. Like afk leveling dummies and more. Treasure key like example is pathetic. That system's ruining all game experience.

[@marcusisahooper]

I agree that it's pay to win, but overall the quality of life improvements and other things I mentioned make it a more enjoyable game for me! I personally think it's a better game that's just plagued by mtx!

[@spooqsy]

Honestly, a lot of this video feels vilified and the points are pretty poor. Especially with the comparison with farming. Looking at your stats and bank I don't think you've experienced enough of osrs to make a persuasive argument. It's fine you like rs3 over osrs, I've been enjoying rs3 a fair bit recently, but I don't think your video has enough substance or understanding on how osrs works. Would love to see you return to this topic later down the line to see how your thoughts change.

[@marcusisahooper]

I definitely want to return to the farming experiment in a separate video and try it again with better parameters! I’ve been playing RuneScape since 2005, so I have a lot of experience! These accounts are relatively new (I made them for fresh start worlds), but I’ve played through quite a bit of the game! There’s a lot I haven’t done, so I’d definitely return to this video if my opinion changes! However, these points are made off about 23 years of experience in the game!

[@SultansCurse]

imagine how rs3 players must feel after being told their game, that is actually good, is bad for years and years causing people to not even want to try it. i could see some flinging some of the shade back from people in the community.

[@spooqsy]

@@SultansCurse complete non-argument and misses the point I'm making but okay

[@SultansCurse]

@@spooqsy im saying it is expected to receive a little shit from the other side when os players only wanna talk shit. not talking about how the game could be improved without screaming about microtransactions they dont have to touch.

[@imperfectjoe9202]

@@SultansCurse I only see one person screaming here. And it’s you

[@arxike8297]

i tried the rs3 and i somewhy hated the loadstone system even if it was easyer

[@Fawpy]

I left rs3 because mostly MTX, end game got to complicated and everything locked behind questing

[@marcusisahooper]

That makes sense!

[@Fawpy]

@@marcusisahooper I still hop on to finish 120 all though ❤

[@angrypeasant7308]

Chickenscape

[@imperfectjoe9202]

Just stick to rs3 then man. I don’t even enjoy those items you talked about it sounds too easy scape for me. But you guys in rs3 can do whatever you want idm. Make it as easy scape as you want. I don’t want any of that.

[@marcusisahooper]

That’s fine! If you don’t like RS3, it doesn’t bother me! We can all get along as RuneScape players! I still play OS because I do like it, I just prefer RS3! I still play both!

[@imperfectjoe9202]

@@marcusisahooper with as much as you hated on osrs in this video I’m surprised. You say you play both, but man osrs didn’t get justice here. It sounded like me hating on rs3, which I know nothing about.

[@user-uv6qf4re3x]

Rs3 = some gatcha gambling fomo inducing homeless meth junkie ver of wow / popular mmorpgs, osrs is too good

[@gijsdevisser4226]

Im maxed in RS3 and i have never spent a dollar past membership :P its not that bad.

[@zeldapro18]

@@gijsdevisser4226 ppl overreact sometimes. Not hard to just ignore TH if you don't like it. And if TH or MTX didn't exist can't imagine OSRS would have come to be or either game be what they are currently. Do people still compare RS to WOW? Like there's literally 100s of games with abilities.