My Ultimate Foolproof Guide to Tormek T8 Knife Sharpening Secrets!

[@loiphin]

Thanks

[@iSharpen]

@@loiphin thanks!!

[@iSharpen]

Sadly KZbin have refunded this payment back to you. Any idea why? Did they say anything to you?

[@loiphin]

@@iSharpen Thats weird?!? I havent had any information from YT/Google about this ???

[@iSharpen]

@@loiphin they have denied your payment to me and a few other NOK payments too. Has the money been taken from your account? Because if it has, KZbin is keeping 100% of it and passing nothing on to me.

[@loiphin]

@@iSharpen Yep, it hasnt come back to my card :(

[@dtsouza2519]

I've been professionally sharpening for almost 3 years now, have a TORMEK T8, about ten different wheels, watched hundreds of videos on sharpening and burr removal and I can say yours is the best at explaining the root of the burr and the best steps to remove it, a true master! Can't wait till you start shipping some of that Kangaroo tail to the US.

[@iSharpen]

Wow! Thanks. Your comment means a great deal to me. The wheels are in motion regarding my export permit. I'll make sure you all know the moment I can start shipping. I heard some news on Friday that was promising.

[@johnchristopher3032]

Have you tried the other stones? The cbn and Japanese?

[@iSharpen]

@@johnchristopher3032 yep. Check my other videos. My CBN experience was sub par and the same for the jap wheel. I now use the jap wheel for bastardised uses and duties.

[@dtsouza2519]

@@johnchristopher3032 Yep, I have five CBN wheels...love em, and I have the SJ250 (Japanese wheel). The only thing about the CBN wheels is, they are NOT to be used with water. You will of course generate some dust without water. You can spray a light coat of PB Blaster Penetrating oil on them to keep the dust down, you also use PB Blaster to clean them up.

[@goforbroke2]

A lot of us are waiting patiently for the Roo tail.🤓

[@loiphin]

This video is the BIBLE OF TORMEK KNIFE SHARPENING on YT! I have watched it a few times and it's still the best Tormek advice I have found (better than Tormeks own videos!). And Baz backs it up with facts. Pure quality, thank you again.

[@iSharpen]

That makes me very happy to hear because that was my exact intention. I made this video to be the video I wish I had to reference when I was starting. All my videos are recorded for my younger self. This (my) method works 100% of the time and will produce razor sharp knives for anyone who follows my advice. I really appreciate you taking the time to make this comment.

[@loiphin]

​@@iSharpen Pleasure Baz! At almost 50 years of age, I still want to learn new things and your vids have helped me immensely. Having crappy dull knives in the kitchen has always bothered me, and having bought quite a few rubbish pull through knife sharpeners and other gadgets, I have now had enough. Sure, the T-8 is expensive, but I will always be able to sharpen my stuff, for the rest of my life. Buy once, cry once rather than buy cheap, buy twice. Assuming I get fairly good at this (when my t-8 arrives next week), I think I will offer to do all the neighbours knives for free, just for some practice :)

[@iSharpen]

@@loiphin "Expensive" is relative not definitive. If you buy it as a hobby it's much cheaper than many hobbies like boating, drag racing, hot rodding, travelling, collecting...the list is endless of the things a T8 is cheaper than. If you flip the switch to "investment" it can make you some excellent spare cash once you decide to sharpen a few knives on the side, either for friends or at the local market or for local restaurants, chefs, butchers, catering companies. The sell is easier and instant. "Sharp knives are safer and a joy to use". It can be done in your spare time or full time (like I'm doing). I can sharpen about 400+ knives from one wheel. Just using up one wheel can double your initial investment and that's impressive for any business investment. There is literally no downside to owning a Tormek T8. It's a pleasure to own and a gift for your workshop that will last you a lifetime. How many times in your life can you get to own the best of something? Also, keep in mind that I bought my first T8 for about $650 and it came with over $1,000 worth of jigs and accessories. My second machine only cost me $850 and it came with jigs that I've since sold for $750 and it came with a brand new wheel worth $425 so it's essentially cost me nothing if not a profit. "Expensive" is not a price, it's a mindset that only thinking makes it so. A Tormek T8 will bring money into your life if you let it. You have made a wise decision. Now all that's left is to send an email to Tormek in Sweden telling that that I influenced you in buying one. ;-)

[@donkeytrousers]

I have learnt so much in the last 42 minutes. I clearly didn't know anywhere near enough about this. Thank you so much! I am looking forward to spending an hour or two perfecting this with my knives.

[@iSharpen]

@@donkeytrousers COOL! It was a brain dump for sure. I just had to get it out because I didn't see this information laid out simply anywhere. So I took it on. Really glad it helped you so much. I want to hear more about your knife sharpening tormek journey.

[@lars-from-germany]

Thank you Baz for the great Video. I loved to see you referring to Vadim, RIP 🫶🏻

[@iSharpen]

I’m standing on the shoulders of a giant. Thank you. Thank you very much.

[@MKrebs-kl7ud]

I puttered away for years with my tormek mainly trial and error but now I am learning from an expert. Thanks for a thorough tutorial!! My results are now Next Level- and I feel confident about doing our good knives and other people’s.

[@iSharpen]

@@MKrebs-kl7ud excellent! That makes me happy to hear.

[@KniFz]

My grandpa used to have a sharpening business before he passed away and I was too young too learn from him and these videos are very informative 🙂

[@iSharpen]

😢 grandpas are awesome.

[@KniFz]

@@iSharpen that's an understatement but true ❤️

[@tdematteo01]

Within the first 5 minutes of this video you solved my problem of getting the tip and heal cut even. What a great idea to start at the tip and work back. Especially for us older guys with a bit of neuropathy in the hands. thanks so much

[@iSharpen]

It's my proudest contribution to the society of old dudes.

[@tomaszcecki4089]

The best tutorial I've seen, great tips. Thank you. Greetings from Poland.

[@iSharpen]

@@tomaszcecki4089 cool! I just recorded what I wish I knew when I was as getting started.

[@loiphin]

Baz! Me T-8 arrived tonight, and I think I passed the BA-TOR101 exam with flying colours at Baz Academy™ !!! I sharpened three kitchen knives and I got better and better with each one. Grinding was easier that I thought, and honing quite difficult, as I dont know when to stop. Did the tried and true Dive Bombing™ technique which works just great! And even got some Icy Smooth™on the blade after honing :) Still have a long way to go (slightly wonky bevel, and a facet here and there), and with the feel / angle of honing, but your videos have helped me so so much. Cant thank you enough for your help. You are a legend! PS. I followed your instructions to a tee. The only thing I am missing are the diamond plates, which will hopefully arrive soon.

[@iSharpen]

@@loiphin that's so cool! Don't hone too much. A few passes in each side is all you need. As long as it doesn't catch on your fingernail, you can proceed to stropping. Now the only thing left to do is email Tormek and tell them that this channel influenced you to buy the T8. They need the know. I'm on a campaign to try to get them to sponsor the channel.

[@loiphin]

@@iSharpen I did email them a week ago. But havent heard anything back :( Sorry. Happy to forward the email I sent if you like.

[@iSharpen]

@ cool. Thanks. Thats ok. I'm sure they received it. Sometimes they take a few months to respond.

[@One-way]

@@iSharpenyou have me looking at their sharpeners… seems like your creating foot traffic into a niche market. FREE (they can write it off) advertising for a solid product showing it’s true capabilities from a master.

[@iSharpen]

@@One-way From the emails I receive and the comments people are placing on my channel I'm responsible for selling at least twenty T8s for them. I encourage people to email them and tell them I influenced them to buy a T8. If enough people email them they might come on board as a sponsor. What I want from them is to offer a free T8 as a giveaway (to start with). One thing's for sure, no one on earth has produced more Tormek videos than me. I've produced over 550 videos on the Tormek T8 without asking for anything (until just recently). Swedish time is about 90% slower than normal human time though. They rarely respond and when they do it's a long time after initial contact. I suppose they know what they're doing. Perhaps it's about posture or maybe they receive thousands of emails a day. Who knows? I don't. Regardless, I love my T8 and will continue on my ultimate goal to produce 1,000 Tormek sharpening videos before assessing if this channel is a success (it already is I think). Your comment is appreciated. Thank you.

[@loiphin]

Aaaah maaate! I can't thank you enough. I have learnt so much from your videos. My T-8 arrives next week and looking forward to getting stuck into the mrs cutlery, which have never been sharpened. I doubt I will be anywhere near your skill, but you have given a super head start. Thanks again, you're a legend :)

[@iSharpen]

@@loiphin awesome! Please send an email to Tormek telling them I influenced you to buy a T8. I'm trying to get them to come on board as a sponsor but they won't reply to my emails. You're going to love it. It'll take a few goes until you get the hang of it but if you follow my videos you'll get there.

[@loiphin]

@@iSharpen They definitely know about you, because they mentioned you from down under. Perhaps your methods are a bit different to theirs, but like you say the results speak for themselves. But of course, if I can help you out, I will gladly send them an email. From a South African in Norway :)

[@iSharpen]

@ they mentioned me?! Where?

[@loiphin]

@@iSharpen I have watched so many videos the past two days, but I think they said something in one of their 1h+ live videos. It wasn't a direct reference, but they spoke of an aussie guy from what I can remember. Have a look at their video The grand machine comparison, or The Basics of Honing | Part 14, or Knife sharpening | Part 1. Sorry I dont have specifics. I sent an email to their media department, saying you helped me decide.

[@iSharpen]

@@loiphin Good on you! I'm trying to talk them into giving me a T8 to giveaway. I think It'd be a world's first.

[@mnkybndit]

This video explained so many things clearly that most other tormek instruction vids don't. Thanks. OMG, that short is at 48M views!

[@iSharpen]

That's why I made it Dean. When I was starting out there was precious little in the way of "slow down and tell me everything I need to know". I'm really glad it helped you. And...I know right?! Insane. I'm going to re-invest all that money back into the channel. Good things coming. Stay tuned. Glad to hear from you. Say more things. ;-)

[@nicknatuzzi2652]

Brilliant tutorial, from The Master! 💯👏

[@iSharpen]

Much appreciated!

[@timbonguyen]

Very detailed, informative, and fun to watched. hello from California, usa !!

[@iSharpen]

@@timbonguyen g'day Tim! Thanks for the visit. Come in. Wanna drink?

[@flaviodasilva2022]

Hi. Awesome video! I don't have a Tormek but have a Scheepach Tiger 3000vs and i think this video will help me a lot. Thanks.

[@iSharpen]

@@flaviodasilva2022 a lot (nearly all of this) will apply to your machine. Thanks for watching.

[@johnclarke8180]

Thanks!

[@iSharpen]

@@johnclarke8180 WOW! Thanks John!

[@swingbelly]

A VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY BAZ TO BOTH YOU AND CHILI. MAY YOU BOTH HAVE MANY MORE! 🥩🥩 All those years of video sharpening presentions using the Tormek finally paid off in views and subscriptions. BRAVO! You are the Tormek guru on KZbin and an inspirtation to the rest of us users. Cheers, eh. Norm 🇨🇦🍻

[@iSharpen]

Thanks so much! I can't believe you remembered!! It's actually next Tuesday but close enough! "Just be yourself, be genuine, be helpful, don't waste their time and they will come" they said. This weekend has been jaw dropping. The stats are insane. Still getting 120,000 views an hour on that one short, my subs tripled in one weekend and people are now watching all my other clips.

[@swingbelly]

@@iSharpen Just proves, Baz that incidental but very important topics about sharpening command a wide audience. Find more such topics of universal interest and you're OVER THE TOP!

[@goforbroke2]

I’ve had my T-8 for a few years now. That said starting with the tip first has changed the game for me. I highly recommend it, this video is a gem. I’ve been using the diamond plates for a few years now also, I learned that from you as well I think. 👌🏾

[@iSharpen]

@@goforbroke2 warms my cockles to hear that!

[@bobcambridge8870]

Hi Baz another great in depth video, 👍and looking forward to the next one well done mate

[@iSharpen]

Thanks Bob. Got any requests?

[@bobcambridge8870]

@@iSharpen I think you’ve covered most things, I just need to practice more on my T4 to get them as sharp as you do 🤣 it’s a hobby thing for me doing friends knives as well as my own

[@iSharpen]

@@bobcambridge8870 Let me know if you have any specific questions. Everything I say here also applies to the T4.

[@bobcambridge8870]

@@iSharpen will do , Have a good day

[@gilberthardy8002]

Heck your a breath of fresh air mate, I live in Germany and wanna start doing this I'm from Canada: Expat, with nothing to do. So maybe put some change in me pocket. buy myself a beer. I will keep watching.

[@billclancy4913]

I'm a custom knife maker and I use a T4 with a CBN wheel to establish the final edge on my blades. I like your tip first method and I'll give that a try next time around.

[@iSharpen]

Please do and let me know how you go. Your tips (and heels) will thank you.

[@searay422011]

Thanks for the precise detail. You are giving us. I am a newbie at this. Just bought my new pro point from Princess Auto and a few Tormek equipment It’s a OK machine made some adjustments on the equipment kit it maybe not a tormek but it does my personal job and it’s really amazing to see the difference. Maybe one day we’ll get a Tormek 👍🇨🇦

[@iSharpen]

@@searay422011 cool! If it turns snd it's a stone it'll work. The principals are all the same.

[@clarrievivian6934]

Great video Baz, have you considered using the KS123 angle setter, been using one for a while & it is as simple as 123, don't have to worry about wheel diameter.

[@iSharpen]

Thanks! Nah, I'm not tempted because the standard angle finder does a terrific job in 3 seconds. If someone was to send me a free one (#tormek) I might try it out but I don't see a need for it at the moment.

[@goforbroke2]

Yeah I’m surprised he wasn’t using the new KS123 angle setter. I do not like using the older unit, it doesn’t feel accurate, leaves a lot to be desired.

[@iSharpen]

@@goforbroke2 the new KS-123 doesn't impress me at all. It adds time for no extra benefit. The old unit is plenty precise and literally takes 3 seconds to use. Having toys is fine but I'm a commercial operation. I'm not going to buy something that adds time to a job for zero extra benefit just because it's new.

[@boatbeard7767]

That was fun, cheers from Port Lincoln.

[@iSharpen]

Pt Lincoln! I got chucked off the jetty when I was 8. It was a LONG way to the water.

[@jani8362]

Thank you for all the videos! Really inspiring!🙏🏻

[@iSharpen]

@@jani8362 you're welcome man!

[@NonNone-qm4zi]

Very good demonstration video.. 👍👍. From Whitehorse, Yukon.

[@iSharpen]

@@NonNone-qm4zi thanks man. Yukon! WOW. Welcome.

[@luckyboyyt8582]

Wow! Fantastic tutorial! That edge is beautiful. I learned a lot. I would love to find a kangaroo tail strop. Do you have a recommendation to buy online with US shipping?

[@iSharpen]

Thanks, I'm really glad you enjoyed it. Just this evening I finalised my application for an export permit. Kangaroo is a native species and so protected from commercial exploitation so they require a permit from anyone who wants to sell them. It's going to be a few weeks before I find out if I've been granted one but it's looking promising. Once approved I'll be selling them internationally and you can buy one off me.

[@luckyboyyt8582]

@iSharpen very cool, thank you! Hopefully it gets accepted. I'll definitely buy one.

[@jani8362]

Awesome video and very informative. Big thank you 🙏🏻

[@iSharpen]

@@jani8362 happy you got something out of it. You have a T8?

[@jani8362]

@@iSharpenI ordered one yesterday much thanks to your inspirational videos. So now I try to learn as much as possible before I get it delivered. I have always liked knifes and axes so to learn how to sharpen them seems like a natural progression.

[@iSharpen]

@@jani8362 So cool! Send Tormek an email telling them I influenced you to buy a T8. My aim is for them to reach out to me and then for me to convince them to donate one for me to give away. I have more Tormek T8 videos on my channel than anyone in the (known) universe but I've not heard anything from them. They don't like to sponsor or discount or do giveaways but hopefully if we all pitch in we can change their minds on this one day.

[@jani8362]

@@iSharpen Will do 👍🏻

[@steveswales7656]

Thanks very much; so informative! Could you let me know the type of clamp you use. I have looked on Amazon but can’t find anything that is similar. Thanks very much once again.

[@iSharpen]

Cool, glad you got something out of it. That's the old style clamp. They don't sell it anymore. The new one is sold everywhere though. Just search for "Tormek knife jig"

[@kevinh6198]

Your videos are great thank you! How practical would the T8 be for putting a first edge on a new machined blade assuming the bevels have already been machined onto the blade? I do a lot of CNC work, and wanted to make some knives, and I prefer the idea of using the tormek vs a belt of possible? What are your thoughts?

[@iSharpen]

@@kevinh6198 thanks! If you're that into the whole process, I reckon a Tormek T8 would make a great addition to your setup. In my opinion the slow controlled water cooled rotating stone of the Tormek T8 is superior to any belt sander. No danger if overheating the edge and I've proven many times how the Tormek T8 can produce razor sharp edges. The only "drawback" is it might take a bit of practice. But if you follow my lead I'm sure you'll get the hang of it quite quickly. Good luck and please keep me updated. Are you saying that you CNC your knives? I'd love to see that!

[@kevinh6198]

@iSharpen thank you, I really appreciate the info! I've been sitting on the fence for some time now, but going to pull the trigger now. Your videos are going to be a huge help, thank you! Yeah, I own a small manufacturing company and I make a lot of custom Golf tools and equipment, but I really want to get into folding knives as well. Excited to give it a try, and glad I'll have help with your Tormek videos. Thanks again!

[@iSharpen]

@@kevinh6198 KZbin gives everyone a channel now. Rename it to reflect your intentions and start posting videos. I'll subscribe for sure. Filming and basic editing isn't hard. I shoot and edit all my films on my iPhone 14 ProMax. You can too.

[@kevinh6198]

@@iSharpen Thanks a lot, and I'll definitely have to give that some thought. Could be fun. I really appreciate your replies!

[@kevinc3751]

Excellent video. Would you ever do one on sharpening a functional long sword or arming sword? The overall edge length, different angles depending on the target (hard or soft), and being double edged make it a challenge for us novices.

[@iSharpen]

@@kevinc3751 sharpening swords is questionably legal down here. My lane is typically chef's knives and domestic blocks.

[@colinkennedy4646]

What's your take on using an Arkansas translucent ultra fine oil stone like the ones used for straight razors as part of the strop procedure?

[@iSharpen]

@@colinkennedy4646 I don’t have a take on that as I’ve never used bench stones.

[@arnarne]

Thank you very much for a great video! Wouldn't it be worth buying the Tormek T2 though, as you are a professional sharpener? Just wondering. 👍🏻

[@iSharpen]

@@arnarne nope. That's for children. The T8 is on another planet. Highly versatile and professional. I've used a T2. It's 75% of the price of the T8 and a billion times less effective. Stick to the T8. Can't go wrong.

[@noeyedeer5813]

Hello Baz, I’m thinking of buying a T8 to sharpen my own knives etc, where do you buy the plates from to give the stone the different grinding coarseness and green bar for close to finishing the honing. I’m can’t seem to find what they call either

[@iSharpen]

@@noeyedeer5813 great choice! Dont forget to send Tormek an email to inform them of my influence. Diamond plates are found on eBay. Just search for diamond sharpening plates. Buy the ones with a thin black foam backing. They seem to last longer. I use the Veritas chrome oxide wax bar.

[@johnnylinoleum]

Greetings, nice video! Do you ever sharpen hand plane blades? A video on that would be good, also wood chisels! Thanks!

[@iSharpen]

I sharpen wood chisels a fair bit. I have some results videos but they really take a toll on my wheel so I sigh when asked to do them. I usually trot out an old worn out wheel when I'm doing them. Have only sharpened maybe 3 hand planer wheels but they're very sensitive and if you get them wrong are a misery to use. I prefer to stick to my lane, knife sharpening, although I'll sharpen anything that fits in my jig and do enjoy sharpening garden shears by hand.

[@johnfletcher3747]

Have you tried the ks-123 angle setting device yet?

[@iSharpen]

@@johnfletcher3747 nope. Dont see why it's needed when the WM-200 works perfectly and literally takes 1 second to use. Over complication and taking 100 times longer to do a simple task isn't advancement in a commercial environment.

[@BigLeafDropper86]

epic demo!

[@podiodoc]

Great video. I learned a LOT!!

[@iSharpen]

Excellent! My goal was exactly this. You have a T8?

[@jonannett]

do you have a link to that huge rest of yours thats amazing i have a knockoff tormek and its rest is even worse than the standard tormek. Where the heck can a canadian get kangaroo tail leather i see a lot of places selling not tail, but no luckso far

[@iSharpen]

@@jonannett wait until I get an export permit. I'll know within a month or two. The big test is called the US430. Sold by Tormek. It's not only long but extends high as well, for cleavers.

[@dab.]

Are you making the blade blunt first just for demonstration or is there another reason?

[@iSharpen]

@@dab. no, just for the demonstration to prove its blunt af.

[@johncurrie4609]

Excellent video thanks

[@thomasstapel6824]

Why do you blunt the blade before starting the grinding?

[@iSharpen]

@@thomasstapel6824 to prove that its blunt. Otherwise trolls would be crying that I just "sharpened" an already sharp knife.

[@mwoodturner54]

How do you protect the knife edge when you pack knives to return to your customers? Embed them in Styrofoam?

[@iSharpen]

@@mwoodturner54 I ask them to bring a tea towel to wrap them up in.

[@mwoodturner54]

@ Thanks

[@RodgerMyers]

If using the angle guide , i and most rest the edge end on the bevel ( using 14 degrees ) prior to the actual cutting edge ... What is the actual cutting edge angle ? I know the angle really doesnt matter near as much as most think 👍

[@iSharpen]

True, I've proven many times that angle isn't as crucial as many people think. Hundreds of thousands of years of knife sharpening without Tormeks and angle guides can attest to this. The Tormek instructions state that the bottom of the angle guide must be at the junction of the wheel and the knife so I place it very close to the wheel without actually touching the wheel which wears out the guide very quickly.

[@michaelbrown-ub6jr]

great vid, thanks.

[@13mike74]

I knew NOTHING about sharpening blades😳. I am now prepared to be the first to set foot on Mars after watching this video 🤯😎🫡🇺🇸

[@iSharpen]

@@13mike74 cool!

[@juraassem9035]

Рай перфекциониста)

[@iSharpen]

That's a big compliment. Thanks.

[@walkemdownram-bigsteppin9699]

OG IS COLD WITH THE BLADE WORK.

[@iSharpen]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Is cold a new word for good?

[@MoslemL-lh7em]

Hello. Very beautiful

[@Znebby]

Big ups

[@thgrweed45]

Since the beginning I have the problem that it's not possible to get the same edge angle on both sides of the blade of a knife. On the one side the edge of the blade is higher, on the other side it's lower. When I set the angle - it fits on the one side, but when I turn the knife - it doesn't on the other side. And that's the reason why the edge is higher on one side. How do I solve this problem?

[@iSharpen]

Do you have a Tormek?

[@thgrweed45]

@@iSharpen Yes, a T7.

[@elbuggo]

Are you using the new KJ-45 jig? It is supposed to solve that problem.

[@iSharpen]

@@elbuggo true but that's only really an issue with extremely thick knives. Most kitchen knives are fine on the old better jig. But other factors affect the size if the bevel such as fired of travel and pressure plus the knife might be offset ground to begin with so alternate grinding won't help there. Each side is its own grind but again this is usually an issue with very thick hunting knives so I'd need to see the technique to properly diagnose what's going on.

[@HappyBonz4109]

congrats

[@billclancy4913]

The new Tormek angle jig is much better!

[@iSharpen]

I disagree. I think it's much worse. It wastes too much time for no extra benefit. I can check the angle in less than 1 second. That thing will slow me down so much I'd end up throwing it over the fence on day one. I lost the will to live after watching the first 15 minutes of the instruction video. Had to turn it off and walk away shaking my head.

[@MoslemL-lh7em]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@neddelic]

Tormek Ks-123 knife angle setter

[@iSharpen]

@@neddelic not a fan. Seems like a colossal waste of time to me. The WM-200 does exactly the same job in literally 1 second.

[@andreaechevarria6725]

Idea for another viral short is to sharpen a popular edc knife. Everyone else does. Must be a million shorts on that orange Wal Mart knife.

[@iSharpen]

We don't have Walmart down here but that aside, I don't really know much about EDCs or which are popular. What I need to do is put more production value into the shorts to make them more interesting. That one viral I had was a freak because I've made dozens of almost identical videos and none have pushed far at all. Viral videos are largely a mystery to me. If I had the formula I'd follow it because that was an extraordinary event that literally changed my life. I'm about to hit 50,000 subscribers today almost entirely on the back of that one little video alone.

[@MrLightningrod01]

You seriously need to invest in a ks-123. Absolutely worth every penny!

[@iSharpen]

G'day Rod. Thanks for stopping in but nah, I'm not a fan, looks like a waste of time for me. I'm talking from ignorance but it appears as if I can get exactly the same job done with the WM-200 in 3 seconds. I only use and need one wheel and don't have time to spend mucking around with that trinket. If you're constantly swapping wheels of different diameters I can see that maybe there might be a luxury use for it and a man can't have too many toys but it's not needed in a professional outfit where time is of the essence and the current tool works perfectly well already.

[@MrLightningrod01]

Fair enough. I find personally that I can set up a knife in half the time of the wm-200​ days myself@@iSharpen

[@MrLightningrod01]

Fair enough. I personally find it to cut my time in half for setting up a knife​@@iSharpen

[@RedFace1]

the only thing i find scary is the stone turning the opposite directions of the edge. I have used a paper based compound wheel on a bench grinder. I mistakenly orientated it the same way and it gripped the knife and shot it up into the ceiling. very scary. obviously that doesn't apply to the tormek id say.

[@iSharpen]

@@RedFace1 Tormek is supposed to be used edge leading. It only spins at 100 rpm and is very secure. Your bench grinder was spinning 30 times faster. Pushing a knife into that would be a limb severing move. You're right.

[@udowanninger3306]

Stay always behind the T8

[@iSharpen]

Can you explain what you mean by "behind"?

[@udowanninger3306]

Some sit or stand behind the machine while sharpening, others in front of it

[@iSharpen]

@@udowanninger3306 Yep. The wheel should (almost) always be grinding into the blade for edge leading grinding style. I've seen people do edge leading standing in front but I prefer to look down on the knife so I stand "behind" the machine. As long as the wheel is grinding into the blade, that's what matters. There are some instances when the wheel should be turning away from the edge though. For example when sharpening all wood turning chisels they're sharpened edge trailing so the wheel is turning away from the edge. As I get older though I wouldn't mind sitting. Might try that one day. These old legs aren't what they used to be.

[@mh4392]

I don’t find the angle increase you get at the tip by lifting evens out, and I want a consistent angle along the full length of the blade. I follow the Tormek handbook and I rotate the knife instead, with the jig mounted at the sweet spot on the knife. Then the entire edge makes contact with the stone at the same height and the angle is consistent. I find the angle increase by lifting to be extreme, and on some knives the result looks really bad.

[@iSharpen]

Interesting. Tormek suggests lifting in their videos though. On what page do they suggest rotating? I'd like to confirm that they disagree with themselves.

[@mh4392]

I think so too. It’s on page 53-56 under the SVM-45 section, mine is printed in 2018. It’s the swedish version however, so your page number may vary. From what I’ve seen, some of Tormeks videos that are 10+ years old suggest rotating, but later they’ve gone all in on lifting. I don’t understand, when you put the jig on correctly, usually in the middle but not always, a rotating motion automatically lets the entire edge make contact with the stone at the same height. Lifting is what complicates things in my opinion. I’ve actually asked them in the comments section on their videos about why they contradict their own handbook, but have not gotten a reply. If you want to, please try rotating to compare the results, but it is important to set the jig correctly. I set the angle first, then put a dot with a marker on the stone as a reference, put the jig where I think is right, and do a rotating motion. I adjust if necessary, and when the entire edge stays just at the dot I know I got it right. Takes about a minute or less.

[@iSharpen]

@ yes, I've seen the method. As for getting a response from them good luck, I think they check their emails once every 6 months.

[@goodguyaus]

Everybody's face at 2:27😬😱

[@iSharpen]

Knife beater! 😂

[@Garymayo]

I love sharpening videos. No matter what you currently do, your knives are handed to customers with a mathematically, scientifically, Concave edge. Does that matter? Does to some folks. A slightly Convex bevel is recognize this better than a slightly concave bevel. Secondly, use a scientific caliber and use trigonometry to measure multiple places on your sharpening job. I'll bet you a dollar every point you measure is a slightly different angle, maybe averaging 14 degrees a side. There are ways to sharpen every knife Convex, and every place on a blade bevel the exact desired angle.

[@iSharpen]

Glad you're enjoying the videos. Technically, mathematically and scientifically you're right because I'm sharpening on a round wheel just as the Japanese and Chinese have been doing for thousands of years. In reality though the curvature is so minute, so minuscule and so microscopically tiny as to be actually insignificant let alone visually perceptible in real life. The knives go out satanically sharp, they last a hell of a long time (because of the way I finish), every single customer and client has been so astronomically impressed that they all say they've (actually in real life) never (literally ever) experienced knives this sharp before. My butcher says my knives last so long that he's been using just one of my knives for weeks and weeks on end with only a light touch on his steel every few days. This blows his mind because before I rocked up he'd have to spend at least an hour every few weeks sharpening all his knives. Now he doesn't even touch them and prefers to use the one or two that I sharpened for him for literally all the tasks. A large butcher's knife (for cutting large cuts and steaks) and his boning knife which is still so freaking sharp that he also uses it for fine filleting. So maybe, just maybe, a microscopically concave edge means nothing or is in actual fact and real life a good thing. I suspect that the way I finish them is what makes the difference but yes, technically in the strictest sense you're right. But it doesn't matter at all in the real world. We both win.

[@gilberthardy8002]

once I'm past 4 in counting gloves and socks off.

[@RaysSharperEdge]

Good day Baz, I found someone else that is a sharpener that does the dive bomb technique on the Tormek. kzbin.infomL2ij-giRSc?si=E43mnb9vc2SF4zuC His channel is called honed by Jones

[@iSharpen]

Cool! I wonder if he came up with that by himself or if I influenced him.

[@RaysSharperEdge]

@iSharpen I like to think you had something to do with it Baz. We're going to find out. I just messaged Jones to see if he came up with it on his own or if he was watching your channel. 😜

[@iSharpen]

@@RaysSharperEdge I came up with it myself. He might also have found it works best for him. I'm keen to find out. Let me know.

[@RaysSharperEdge]

​@@iSharpenSo Jones, got back to me and said " Hi Ray , 150,000% stole that from Baz. I struggled with the Tormek until I started doing it "backwards" ❤

[@iSharpen]

@@RaysSharperEdge And my teachers said I'd never amount to anything...pffft if they could only see me now...lol

[@torsen1987]

[@torsen1987]

Ever considered the Tormek KS-123 ? :D

[@swingbelly]

Baz, what brand are those soft backed diamond sharpening plates? Have searched both eBay and Amazon but no success. Maybe not descriptive enough, though the English us a hoot! Thanks.

[@iSharpen]

They're on eBay, they're all made in China. Search for "diamond sharpening plates" and get the ones with the thin black foam backing. They seem to last longer.