My views on Jeff Dechesare AKA Jeffwon song

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If you got this far, this is the SEO part of my description and probably will not be all that interesting to read. I am a skateboarder who has been skating for over 15 years and I have been back and forth on how obsessed I am with it. As I become an older skateboarder I definitely struggle with how much I should skate. I am a parent now and don't want to just skateboard every free moment I have instead of spending time with my child. But I still love skateboarding so I basically made this channel so I can still enjoy some parts of skateboarding with out the time commitment of actually going out and skating. Still love to skate. My favorite skater is Geng with Preduce skateboards but I love anything that is gnarly skateboarding. I think Nyjah Huston is one of the greatest skaters who has ever lived and I am a huge fan of his. I can get down with any skater though for the most part. I react to Thrasher Magazine videos, Nike SB, and any other skate brand inbetween. Thrasher just happens to post the most so I end up reacting to their skate parts a lot.

[@gunfun7772]

"My cousin was a double flip kinda person" "Hes on drugs now" 💀💀💀

[@wydnoob5974]

Respect to this dude for getting hate for so long and never gave up or quit skating

[@skatetheorist]

For sure dude is a hustler

[@ZxAMobile]

@@skatetheoristHe’s the greatest skater of all time on big tricks. Not best rail, but best flat ground by a mile.

[@skatetheorist]

@@ZxAMobile isnt that Jamie Griffin?

[@masta182]

@@skatetheorist jeff is actually one of the few people who ever beat jamie in a game of skate, they are very close in skill jeff vs jamie: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6PYaoR6hqhrjrc

[@gnarboots423]

​@@skatetheoristpj ladd

[@Lightspeedloser_]

personally I dont mind the trick selection at all, I just think his style never matured, like how when your a kid you have a sloppy style but as you grow older and are able to control the board better your style gets better, he just didnt develop out of the style

[@fatsteve2380]

10000% you're spitting. it's almost surreal seeing someone do extremely difficult stuff with the style of a 14 year old

[@klubstompers]

That wasn't a tipple flip, that was a quad. Dont know too many skaters who can do them, let alone catch them in the air.

[@LotkaVolterra]

It's so hard to explain this dude's skating. On the one hand, he's doing harder tricks than a lot of pros are doing. The controversial part is that he doesn't have the classic skillset that pros have. Doesn't catch stuff. Doesn't do much grinds. Doesn't "look" like a pro when doing basic tricks. Lands off balance and loses lots of speed. His talent is undeniable though. It's like he's playing a different sport.

[@AlexPletcherPhoto]

straight lanky

[@noahh2338]

He catches almost every single flip, I don't know what you're watching.

[@sootytern]

i aint gon hold u my nigga jeff wonsong be going way too hard. i def had to let his style grow on me but its very unique and you can tell hes just goin ham but havin fun

[@jeffwonsong]

Thanks for the props my man! Appreciate the video 🙌 for the record though my name is pronounced DEE-CHEZ-ARE-AY , the first clip was a quad flip and its an Italian flag haha

[@skatetheorist]

Hahaha thanks for the corrections legend. Keep up the clips🤙🤙

[@ZxAMobile]

@@skatetheorist Also, I don’t know how many more times I have to remind people of this, but skating is not about how something looks or about what you feel, it’s about the level of difficulty of the trick being landed. It doesn’t matter how they are landing it, or how they are doing it, as long as they are using their feet and landing - not that it has to land to clean to be extremely difficult- but if we are talking about other people in the world being able to land a specific trick then obviously the one who landed the cleanest would be the best skater. I was the best skater in the world in True Skate for many years (the only realistic/physics based skate game on earth) and still the number two best skater in the world currently in the game, and I will let you know the skating community is the most delusional + arrogant/insecure community that I have ever been a part of, and they choose who their favorite skaters are based on arbitrary/corny reasons like who wears the nicest looking clothes or who makes them feel the best. A “steezy af omgawd” kickflip will NEVER be as hard as a sloppy triple flip, idc what your opinion or how you feel on the matter. Unlike what most casual skaters and so-called professional skaters would like you to believe, skating is not an art, skating is a mathematical equation, similar to a sport in the Olympics. It is something that is specifically measured and quantified for difficulty. It’s a sport, not an art. Just because you look cool doing something doesn’t mean it’s actually difficult to do and doesn’t give you any more brownie points to anybody who understands the sport and takes it extremely seriously and doesn’t care to fit in with these corny bullies/wannabes/casuals. Jeff D is OBJECTIVELY and irrefutably the best flat ground skater I’ve ever seen, if you can prove otherwise I’d love to see it. Otherwise, you know you’re being biased based on arbitrary measurements of “Steeze/style” which isn’t a measurement used in any sport except skating, unfortunately and sadly. The “judges” and the spectators are not the experts on skating. The experts are the actual people that are the best skaters in the world and are doing the hardest tricks and unfortunately they are usually never the ones judging or making opinions on this. A double flip> single flip, triple flip > double flip. It’s basic physics/logic/reasoning/truth. Any skater that thinks some super Steezy beautiful looking kick flip or double flip is more impressive than a quad flip or 720 flip is full of crap/liar.

[@Skateceramics]

@@ZxAMobile 'I was the best skater in the world in True Skate for many years (the only realistic/physics based skate game on earth)' Sooo....... did you manage to get up from your PC and actually skate though? @skatetheorist

[@ZxAMobile]

@andyvivz Don't need to, my argument is irrefutable it's harder to do any trick that has more flips and more rotations regardless of what you think about style or any other subjective metric that is meaningless to skill/talent, aka the whole point of any art and sport.

[@Skateceramics]

@@ZxAMobile if your actually living in the skate culture and partaking you would know skating is a very personal activity, we make it what we want and respect each other for choosing their own way to skate such as @jeffwonsong blesses us with his skating, he understands something about skating which the rest of us haven't figured out yet. Seems actual skaters don't really give a fu*ck how we look, we do it because we love it.

[@AB-rh5yq]

These types of tricks basically force you to flip mob. That is what I think people are talking about if they say they don’t like his style. I’d personally rather see a standard textbook style tricks down one of these sets than the more complex flip tricks, but I get the how this type of skating is impressive and fun to watch.

[@dangatang0]

That’s a great point… And I wonder if in a parallel reality where mobbing was considered stylish we would be talking about this guy as if he was one of the greats. even still though it’s a style of skating that I hate which is jump down big stuff. No creativity, no variety. Linear, up and down

[@ZxAMobile]

The thing is, skating is not a fashion show, it’s a sport that’s based on skill - when I watch a skater, I’m trying to find the best skaters in the world and admire the talent and efforts and skill put into their craft. I don’t care what they are wearing, how they are doing a trick, if they’re steezy or any of that. I care about who the best skaters in the world are, and how they are able to land these tricks. The skating community is toxic/immature/high school mentality, it’s a joke.

[@ZxAMobile]

@@dangatang0 you couldn’t be any further from the truth. It takes an extreme amount of creativity to even come up with a way to land these type of tricks. It takes zero creativity to angle your body a certain way to look cool to make your trick look a lot harder than it actually is. Jeff can do any and all of that Steezy easy tricks that every other skater can do no other skater can do these type of tricks. Therefore, Jeff is the better skater. It is extremely easy and takes little to no talent to look Steezy. It takes an extreme amount of talent, and only a handful of people in the world can even do a couple of the tricks that he is able to do. Nothing “linear” about doing a quad flip, a single flip “steezy omg” trick is basic/linear af. The skate community is delusional.

[@naD_32]

It’s not the style of skating i would pick to watch but the guy has got mad talent. Does tricks down sets that a lot of skaters can’t even do on flat. Also fair play to him for sticking at it when he gets a ridiculous amount of unjustified hate. If people don’t like it, they shouldn’t watch it or comment negative things about it Edited to put in a disclaimer. I know a lot of tricks he does, he benefits from the airtime he gets from doing them down sets and they might arguably be easier to do them down a set. But that’s not the same with all of them and even the ones that might be easier with airtime, it still takes a ridiculous amount of skill to do them

[@SuperDeucen]

He is talented. That said he looks like a grown man with little kid style when he catches stuff on the ground. And jaws only gets a pass cus he was skating massive gaps and he looks more comfortable on transition. I honestly would be happy never seeing 540 anything ever again and even double flips are ugly and pointless if your not playing skate IMO.

[@scottkeenan6339]

Jeff dechesare is a flippen pro. Literally. That's how the pros do it 💥🤙

[@MrDakota776]

Met him before he’s hella chill

[@highqualityskateboarding]

I lost it at "my cousin was a double flip type of person" lmao

[@CM-es2tk]

"tripleflips to me, looks like they don't get caught" ... plays Jeff's triple flip and gets caught in the air... "And he does kind of catch it".... I'd like to see you try a triple flip

[@skatetheorist]

Easy peasy

[@jeffreyarthur3780]

Definitely a fair review of Jeff's skating (catches the board on, or too close to the ground, rarely spins his body, etc...), but let's not forget that we gave two of the sketchiest skaters Rodney Mullen and Tony Hawk a pass for their entire careers simply because they were so technically gifted and created more NBD's than other skaters on the planet combined.

[@BillyHanning]

I've been watching Jeff since his very first upload on KZbin. His style was never good, but it was interesting enough for me to watch him upload and progress every day and he used to upload a trick every single day. Surprisingly enough his style started to grow on me a bit.

[@skatetheorist]

I feel like skating with him would be super fun. He definitely has a crazy bad or tricks

[@fatsteve2380]

he may be the gnarliest mod flipper of all time

[@STAYSKULLED]

I wasn’t the biggest fan of him but he’s earned my respect.

[@John-zg8my]

It’s the way he flicks his kickflip-type tricks that throws me off. His foot flicks behind him instead of flicking out off the nose and it causes his feet to look too close together in the air at times. Dude is still gnarly though and I couldn’t do half the shit he does in this video.

[@ethanmiles20]

Maaaaaan, put some 'speck on my man's name 📛 wild how what is arguably far more difficult can get recognized in such a negative light 👁️👄👁️

[@ZxAMobile]

It’s because the skating community is full of immature clowns that never grew out of high school. They view skating as a popularity and fashion contest, instead of a sport that requires skill, talent and dedication. People like other people that are like them, and most people are basic low effort type of people, so they gravitate towards those people, even the supposed professionals that are doing very easy tricks, people like them more because they can relate more to them.

[@RobBassCame2GetDown]

He opened up with a quad flip

[@ZxAMobile]

It’s funny this guy is crapping on him the entire time and can’t even identify a quad flip or care to slow the video down to make sure his video is accurate. 😂 perfectly CLEAN and steezy too, but “not good enough” total clown.

[@bigdeckenergy8119]

I feel like a solid body varial and catch makes a spinning trick look good. Without the catch it just looks like you got lucky. Coming from a guy who’s okay with any landing he can get 😂

[@skatetheorist]

Jeff is better than I could ever imagine to be honestly lol. But yeah I agree

[@bigdeckenergy8119]

I agree, better than most of us could hope, we are peasants throwing rocks at a giant.

[@profo4544]

the nollie heel or kickflip at 5:16 was so rocketed hes lucky he even landed that. As to catching stuff, some people seem to have that better then others. Like a fakie bigspin or something, alot of people pivot the last quarter rotation when they do them on flat, what you wanna do to catch them is when you go to do the trick from fakie release the shuv as late as possible, what happens is it kinda spins up and meets ur feet and ur feet stop the rotation when you come around from the body varial

[@ZxAMobile]

There is nothing lucky about what Jeff is doing. You can watch his lines. He is landing these NBD insane type of tricks back to back like they are nothing, perfectly clean as well. There is no argument against him other than just haters blindly hating him for no reason. When you are doing triple and quad flips, they are not going to look as “steezy” as a single flip, and that’s ok. Skating is a sport, and instead of people trying to evolve the sport and going big, they promote and idolize these basic kindergarten skaters that are doing single flips/danger tricks that ARE based on luck/risk of injury over calculation and execution, it’s a shame.

[@bigdeckenergy8119]

@@ZxAMobile I said “looks” like you got lucky. I’m not discrediting Jeff’s skill at all and I think he definitely deserves his pro status.

[@thesunisflatorganization]

JEFF D IN THESE STREETS

[@650jdb]

I'll say this. Jeff is very skilled in his particular genre of skating. It just doesn't look very good. He could definitely benefit from branching out and trying other things to round himself out more as a skater. That being said, Jeff would absolutely demolish me and anyone I've ever known at a game of skate.

[@skatetheorist]

For sure he would dominate most people haha

[@0urprodigy]

Do a video about Jamie griffin and sick video I’m for sure subscribing love that you said nice things about him and didn’t just totally trash on him

[@skatetheorist]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4a5pGtvq5pgr5Isi=yEXL69fVx8sV6mpO I covered Iamies recent part. Thought it was great

[@redjamison9175]

Jeff Kwon son!!!!

[@dneck]

nutty

[@hover_roller_balance_boards]

He often calls inward heels p flips. There sort of hybrid like kinda inward and kinda flicked? There’s something about his posture / body shape and tricks that don’t do it for me 💯. I’m stoked to see these tricks it’s usually caught low or low pop and most look like Hail Mary stuff. Many are I bet. He’s a controversial figure. You just take it for what it is. I like some of it.

[@skatetheorist]

Exactly how I feel

[@Jblizzybaby]

Jeffwon Song is goated

[@ZxAMobile]

He’s the greatest ever.

[@frozennorth3426]

somewhere out there is a filmer sitting on a goldmine of clips this dude landing quintuple flips or whatever Primo. I’d watch That compilation. just crazy flips down stairs to primo over and over again. hook a brother up

[@skatetheorist]

😭😭😭

[@sootytern]

hater ass nigga they on his channel he way too consistent with it

[@skaterowned]

BRO he definitely catches them nice!! in slomo it just you cannot tell at x1 speed

[@ZxAMobile]

Exactly. It’s never good enough for these people. He lands perfectly clean and does the most difficult tricks of any skater in the world, but people talk about him like he is some average quality pro skater. The best in the world in virtually every sport has their own unique style who gives a crap if people don’t like it it’s about the results that matter not about what they feel about their style or their fashion or any of that nonsense.

[@cammyno5151]

No style? His whole life is style ya bunch of jealous nerds jeff is the man.

[@bellabear653]

Jeff is very talented, however he always falls onto his tricks he doesn't catch them rather he is falling with the board, the issue with doing tricks in this way is they tend to look clunky I think if he just caught the tricks on the way up instead of falling onto them on the way down, it would greatly increase his watch ability. That being said he seems like a real nice dude and he should be allowed to skate how ever he wants I'm just another person on the internet with an opinion. Keep rocking it Jeff you do you G.

[@skatetheorist]

100%

[@AJBuddha]

All I know is he can do tricks down gaps that I’ve never seen anyone do - style isn’t really relevant in terms of being impressive & difficult to do You could say the same thing about music as well - everybody has a different opinion & everyone has different preferences it’s all subjective

[@rahliE777]

Whoever called this dude “Jeffwon Song” might want to go watch a few clips of Daewon Song (I really hope he didn’t put that name on himself lol).. I don’t see any similarities at all

[@sigmachud9092]

was about to post this myself

[@rahliE777]

@@sigmachud9092 bro this guy called himself Jeffwon Song! Said his buddies called him that and he just kept it LOL.. That is cringe!

[@ZxAMobile]

@@rahliE777What’s cringe? Jeff is light years better than Daewon. Daewon would get obliterated in a game of skate/nbd competition. That’s like Michael Jordan using the nickname of some average NBA player and then saying that it’s cringe as if Michael Jordan gives a crap about what you think or that random NBA player. Show me a skater doing objectively, harder tricks, forget about your “opinion”

[@rahliE777]

@@ZxAMobilebro stop.. You gotta be super young to say such nonsense

[@ZxAMobile]

@@rahliE777 I don't know that sounds like sort of a compliment old skaters were not even that good compared to the younger generation, so your "old" opinion on modern skating is irrelevant. Stop glorifying these old skaters just because you think you're cool by being old school or whatever look at the actual tricks people are doing instead of who is doing them or what style they have or whatever other biased nonsense opinion you have on the matter other than objective cold hard facts which is what I go by I don't care what you say but if you know skating you know a double flip is harder than a single flip and a triple flip is harder than a double flip there is no way around it and no amount of mental gymnastics is going to save you from looking like you don't understand skating I don't care if you invented skating the facts are the facts

[@RouslanKou]

Love your vids man. Plz get a better mic and a better cam ❤

[@RouslanKou]

Also I have asked him and he said he does not care for style how he lands is how he lands

[@skatetheorist]

He said he doesnt care about style? Interesting lol

[@crab-cake]

i don't think style alone has prevented him from being relevant. skateboarding is about marketability and gap/stair skating isn't that trendy right now. on top of that the spots are boring and he isn't approaching anything in creative ways. a lot of those tricks don't look good either and his style being bad only makes it worse. could be wrong but i don't think he would sell many boards.

[@williamparisi5901]

You know when you meet your hero and their personality kinda ruins it for you. Jeff is the opposite of that for me. But man when I didn’t know him through KZbin I would hate on this guy

[@skatetheorist]

Jeff is confirmed cool by everyone who met him i think

[@ericromero1620]

everybody has a opinion but i think he is dope and way better than most if he wanted to do other tricks I bet he could I love the style

[@CherishHaze666]

Jeff is everything skate is all about. People nowadays like to focus on meaningless stuff just because of media overload. I would love to hear an OG talk about him, bet it would humbly silence the world for a good minute.

[@skatetheorist]

I am an OG

[@klubstompers]

@@skatetheorist Overly Grandiose? :D

[@CherishHaze666]

@@skatetheorist I’m sorry man didn’t mean anything with what I said. I’m from Italy, I don’t have that wide knowledge on all the skaters and OGs that are around. I know only those who I had the pleasure to see in videos and locals, sadly.

[@homina4251]

Great elephant skateboard and Ireland skateboard i agree

[@Dyl-XL]

bro why is always the trippy stoner acid dropping folks that like all the triple hippy dippy shit lmao

[@skatetheorist]

😭😭😭😭😭

[@PunishedLasagna]

I think it really comes down to his trick selection. Like the frontside double flip down the set is super hard, no hate. But I think it would be better if it was just a really proper switch frontside flip or something like that.

[@swagaton]

7:40 another hand touch right after the first hand touch

[@PluggedSlatt]

whenever jeff does a 'basic trick' like a lazar flip i think it looks steezy and i think most people hate on him because of his clothing as well like if u pictured him with baggy jeans it would make it look much better

[@skatetheorist]

I agree with the first part but I have always liked skinny jeans haha

[@blaiseanddestroy]

If I was daewon I would sue!!

[@skatetheorist]

I was confused by his name. He doesnt even skate transition like Daewon? But maybe he just inspired him thats fine by me

[@frozennorth3426]

seriously

[@drewalleman]

​@@skatetheorist In an interview he says that his friends used to call him that growing up.

[@transferz]

He could use some more spinning and less extra flips!!

[@ZxAMobile]

Nah, more flips = more skill. Less flips = you’re trash.

[@XxSomeonexX1000]

First 🎉

[@woozoos]

in y opinion i can’t stand his style i had to block his insta page cuz his clips kept popping up on my feed he’s good and all but his style is just the worst

[@ZxAMobile]

Oh, I forgot skating was a fashion and popularity contest. Yeah it’s totally not a sport. It’s just based on your opinion of whatever you like. Brilliant!

[@frozennorth3426]

the gifted hater bit on jeff de-chez is hilarious

[@skatetheorist]

Whats the vid called?

[@frozennorth3426]

@@skatetheorist at 23m15s… kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJO8daVrqNZsqbMm13s

[@skatetheorist]

This is funny I had never seen that lol

[@frozennorth3426]

@@skatetheorist “Look at you, Jeff… Look at you Jeff…”

[@ChongcoSk88]

I think you were fair to him. You like what you like. However after doing this video would it be fair to say you like him a little better than before?

[@skatetheorist]

Good question. Hes definitely a great skater and overall seems like a cool guy from vlogs I see.

[@daytonsharp8886]

Bruh he’s got better style than anyone I’ve seen

[@johnmchale6765]

Lol at calling a giraffe an elephant and the flag of italy the flag or ireland

[@skatetheorist]

Im gonna be honest this sounds silly but I always got Giraffes and elephants mixed up

[@humanbean3]

@@skatetheorist

[@Sos-Rambo]

The style of a wet noodle and the trick selection of a 10yr old with a tech deck. If he popped more then 2inches of the ground maybe it wouldn't look so Wack. But he's never popped more then one deck high in his life.

[@oopsydaizi3s824]

You better be nice to Jeffy

[@kevinandrewsphoto]

I don’t think you’re explaining your stance very well. Because I’m with you, I tend to laugh watching his tricks. I see the mad talent he has, but he doesn’t have any style and doesn’t understand the art of trick selection and lacks creativity. The reason triple flops or 540 shuvs are so “wack” is because both involve you kicking the board as hard as you can and trying to land. Like when you take the trucks off your board and do tricks on a trampoline. It seems like his mindset is increasing the rotations and revolutions of his board, when skating is all about thinking outside the box. Coming at an obstacle in a way you didn’t expect. Or incorporating a flip trick into a unique grind trick. The truth is, certain tricks “look” much better than others. Jeff tends to do the ones that don’t look good, and makes them look worse by double or triple flipping them.

[@cizyeah]

there is an old saying "less is more"

[@ZxAMobile]

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong skating is about doing the most difficult tricks and landing them. That’s it skating isn’t a fashion contest. It’s not a popularity contest. It’s not up to your opinion it’s up to the facts. There is nothing creative about chaining together basic kindergarten tricks that literally any 12-year-old can do with enough tries. You think it’s easy to land a perfectly clean quad kick flip down multiple sets? I would love for you to show me other skaters doing these tricks if it was so easy and in fact, actually, I would love to see you do any one of these tricks that he has done yeah, I’ll be waiting. Yeah, go try to do a quad flip and see how early you end up in the hospital and how that works out for you, this isn’t a video game.

[@kevinandrewsphoto]

@@ZxAMobile I thought that too in 7th grade. Skating is not about just “landing tricks”. How you do a trick is just as important than the trick

[@ZxAMobile]

@@kevinandrewsphoto Wrong, I’m an actual pro skater in real life, you’re wrong. Skating isn’t a fashion contest, it’s a sport that requires skill and talent and nobody gives a crap what you think about how they did a trick, because you can’t do that trick - if you could do that trick with way better style, then you get a little bit extra brownie points, but it’s not the end all be all like you casuals think it is. Style is like 10% of a total score, trick difficulty/uniqueness in trick selection/landing clean is the rest. People are trashing on Jeff’s style, thinking that he’s landing the tricks in a sloppy way, but he’s actually landing them perfectly except he hast to use a particular style in order to even be able to land at those tricks in the first place if you are doing a quad flip or a 540 flip you are not going to have this Super Steezy looking style it’s just impossible, and even if you were to be able to do that, it’s only like 10% more impressive to people who actually dedicate their lives to skating and don’t just watch from the sidelines holding a bud light in their hand talking trash This is the only sport I can think of where people trash people on their style instead of what they produce with that style, the skating community is a joke. It’s mainly just high school mentality people who never grew up and still act like they are in high school they even dress like they are.

[@sebp400]

@@ZxAMobile taste and style doesn't have anything to do with fashion or popularity. You keep repeating that. You're making it a contest by arguing about someone's opinion, you contradict yourself.

[@csmith411]

12:25 switch big flip bruh … not that hard .. if you gon hate at least know the trick he doin

[@skatetheorist]

He wasnt even this salty when he commented on this video lol

[@csmith411]

@@skatetheorist how am I salty ? I’m just saying know the trick. It’s not rocket science.

[@csmith411]

@@skatetheorist and u watched it twice lol

[@noahh2338]

I don't really understand the criticism, maybe you prefer more clean tricks to hesh, but all of your criticisms seem to be that his tricks are too hard and crazy, you prefer less flips, less difficulty..seems strange to me, and I like 90s guys mainly..also you say you don't like spinning while spinning your board, but you want him to spin 360s..so he should spin 360s, but shouldn't flip that board while you're doing it? Lol

[@skatetheorist]

what are you even talking about lol i want him to spin more with his board while he does flips. a clean backside flip is better than an ugly triple flip

[@noahh2338]

@@skatetheorist you're all over the place, you also said you didn't want him to spin while his board spins, which makes no sense if you want frontside flips, and misidentified at least a few tricks..this kid gets hate for no reason, yours included. "His tricks are too hard, do a backside flip" while he's doing a 540 flip down a set..lol

[@skatetheorist]

You are not representing my opinions well and should rewatch to understand@@noahh2338

[@noahh2338]

@@skatetheorist agree to disagree..I think this kid is sick af, he hucks huge trick down huge sets and does things nobody else can even think about, people hate because he's different..go watch more street league if you want the same 10 tricks..plenty of backside flips to watch over and over

[@dangatang0]

What is it about mob style that looks so bad? Does it just look because we are used to not seeing it so it is jarring when we do as in Jeff’s case? Or is it because there is something inherently less aesthetically pleasing?

[@skatetheorist]

That is a really really good question. It is kind of like dancing. Its hard to say what makes dancing look good but easy to say when it doesnt

[@transferz]

Sometimes the most tech dudes have the worst style. Cole is a legend but his style is yuck for example. Idk though double and triple flips are really ugly. Maybe a homie needs to tell him? Go back get better style and then do the extra tech?

[@skatetheorist]

Chris Cole is another good example of a pro I am not a big fan of. Gatotime has a video about Chris Cole that cracks me up. Its him arguing with everyone who told him to wear a helmet

[@itmightgetdark]

lol @ "go back and get better style." thats not how skating works dude. you skate how you skate. you ever see someone fake their style? yeah, it looks even worse than having bad style.

[@crab-cake]

@@itmightgetdark i have seen improved style before. a lot of times it is overdone but it can be done if the flaws aren't that bad. it will never be amazing if it's bad but it can be improved. in general though i would say it's better to just own it and make yourself marketable in other ways. i don't think his skill set regardless of style would sell very many boards. maybe a small dedicated fan base but it's too niche. if he could skate big rails and was creative in some way maybe there would be a chance for him.

[@ZxAMobile]

@@crab-cake any skater that treats skating like a fashion contest, is not a real skater and an amateur at best. Skating is about landing tricks - the more difficult, the better - and landing those tricks in a clean way; it’s not about how hard you stick your butt out, how “steezy” you think you look or any of that nonsense. This is why the skating community is the most toxic delusional community I have ever been a part of. This is why skating has not evolved as much as it should have evolved, because people keep promoting basic easy to do skating. As long as you look cool doing it, which is nonsense. Anyone can look cool, it’s close to impossible to land a perfectly clean quad flip like Jeff is doing. What Jeff is doing requires an extreme amount of skill and talent. The people you idolize I could teach a 12-year-old to skate like them. There is nothing impressive about them to me but of course to you guys it’s extremely impressive because you guys treat skating like a fashion runway show, because… You’re not good! Good skaters make you feel insecure about your own skating abilities.

[@okieinnyc]

Why critique anyones skating? If someone does dope tricks give an out load hand clap and say thats awesome! If you dont dig someones style, why point it out? Save the critques for sports like figure skating or gymnastics. Seems un skater like

[@skatetheorist]

Just for fun. I said in this I would like to skate with him lol

[@charliekater1024]

This video is so biased, Jeff is literally one of the best technical skateboarders ever

[@skatetheorist]

How?

[@ZxAMobile]

@@skatetheoristHe does WAY harder tricks, that’s how, period, end of discussion, do you skate? Just stop. 🛑

[@podium-py4nj]

react content is bad. also first trck is quad not triple

[@skatetheorist]

Then dont watch lol

[@southhour5241]

His new part just dropped yesterday.

[@skatetheorist]

Are you talking about the part I watched in this video? Lol

[@southhour5241]

@@skatetheorist No he literally put out a brand new pro part on his channel yesterday. I liked it.

[@skatetheorist]

@@southhour5241 yes, the one I watched in this video lol. Skip to the end

[@skatetheorist]

@@southhour5241 at 11:00 I watch it

[@southhour5241]

@@skatetheorist My bad fair play

[@endthedrugwartoday]

De chez eh ray

[@benfuhrer7858]

Man this dude is doing shit nobody else is capable of. Come on... you can sit on your chair in front of your PC and talk shit but show me that you're capable of any of those tricks. Also jonny giger is one of the sickest skaters in the world. I can't believe you're even calling people out. What are you even talking about?